Sunday Sterling -- 3/8/26

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Who knows from University of Cincinnati are dealing with sleep issues,
Sleep center stuff. Doctor Ann Romaker. Welcome to seven hundred WLW.
How are you today?

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Hi?

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Thank you?

Speaker 1 (00:09):
How big is that hour when it comes down to
because I've seen statistics that show some serious consequences for
some people when it comes to either even gaining an hour,
which I would have thought would have been almost painless
and an easy, hiccup free kind of circumstance.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
Actually, the sensitivity to the changes in light and dark
and our body clocks vary from one person to the next.
There's a lot of a lot of this is inherited, actually,
so some people are very sensitive to it, some people
not so much. The majority of us can adapt to
swings of about an hour a day. They can, We

(00:46):
can sort of do that, But there are When I
say adapt to that, I mean we can change our
sleep schedule fairly easily on our own. But that doesn't
take into account our lifestyle and our our current culture.
So work still happens. You still can't adjust, you know,

(01:07):
when you're going to go to work because your body
clock is set at a different time. You can't change
the fact that it's darker at different times, and so
there's more car accidents because our little like when you're
it's darker in the evening and kids are coming home
from practice or other activities, there's more likely just by

(01:28):
sheer numbers to have more accidents. But because we as
a people don't like to go to sleep earlier when
our clocks when that's the appropriate thing to do, we
get less sleep. And then when we have less sleep,
we are not as good at We're not as we're
not as coordinated, we're not as thoughtful, we forget things,

(01:49):
we get irritable, and so our lives are not quite
as good because we're not at our best.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
So technology advancements of our society and the industrial revolution
and everything it has made our lives relatively easy compared
to those back in the day when it was literally
you know, working to eat and with no power after
dark if you had a candle grate, but you were
going to go to sleep and get up at the
crack of dawn. Effectively, that was natural with the seasons,

(02:16):
but we've altered that with all this technology and science
and synthetic light and so forth. Were people healthier then
or do we not know how they were living? So
much back before the advent of all those things I
just mentioned.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
They had other health issues instead of these, They were
more likely to die of infection or to be coppered by,
you know, in relatively blunt tools or things like that.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
It's great, shouldn't joke, right, that's not really funny, but
I mean, yeah, so one thing doesn't get you, I
guess another will, right, vulnerability wise, But.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
They know we did try this before, you know, in
nineteen eighteen and nineteen nineteen we went to daylight savings
time for you know, throughout and again in World War
Two we tried it for almost three years, and each
time Congress repealed it because people didn't like it.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
And there's a big push for it now. So you
think it's just one of those things that we forget,
sort of like basics of hygiene that we found out
with the pandemic that obviously washing hands was a stretch
for a lot of people and courtesy for our neighbors,
but maybe a little bit of a stretch for some people.
So we just need to be reminded. I guess of
some basic things.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
Is that it I think so? And how did we
come up with our current the standard time where how
did that occur? That occur that was people coming together
and deciding this is how, this is how we're going
to measure time. This is when you know when we're
going to give the assigned hours based on the way

(03:48):
the sun rises and fall, et cetera, et cetera. But
also because our bodies were attuned to that, and so
the standard time was actually sort of codified around how
the human physiology works. So changing it is like, okay,
But the reason it's the way it is is because

(04:09):
this is what works best for the vast majority.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
Of human bodies, some of us anyway.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Doctor Ann Romeger of University of Cincinnati Sleep Center talking
to issues with the falling back, moving ahead time changed
day likes he gets deep and health issues at the
top of the list. When I was a kid, not
to make this all about me, but springing ahead, you
would have thought would have made it harder to get up,
get to school on time, into function. And I don't

(04:35):
know if the sun coming up earlier, springing ahead on
top of it, or what I have found historically, and
this continues to be the case that springing ahead makes
my life easier to wake up and get there at
least for a window of time in that change. I
don't know if that's the fear of oversleeping and hearing
not hearing the alarm or even you know, when I
was just a little kid, you know, walking you know,

(04:56):
a couple six blocks to school whatever, second third grade,
compared to say now where it's a different scenario. And
I talk to most people springing your heads the harder
part rather than falling back right.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
But that again goes along with your biology. You may
be already sort of a morning have more of a
morning phenotype, so that some people love to get up
and get going in the morning, or that their body
gets them up to get going in the morning, whether
they love it or not, but that's their own body clock,
so we call them larks. And then there are other
people who and more people are evening type people. And

(05:31):
the majority of us can go either way depending on
what our other responsibilities are. But yeah, everyone's different, and
some folks, you know, thrive in one one scenario versus another.
But the morning people who do the way you do,
who respond the way you do, are about five percent
of the population.

Speaker 6 (05:50):
Five percent.

Speaker 5 (05:51):
And I'm left handed, Holy crap, I'm an anomaly all
the way around.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
You are very unique.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yes, we're all special, doctor, and Romaker was still on
the big one. So little incremental changes like the nap.
I hated naps as a kid. They want to make
you have a nap at school and I was like,
grown ups don't do naps. I want to be productive.
And they would like, just shut up, kid and lay
there and be quiet. And now if I could get
a nap, I pay to get a nap every day

(06:15):
these little but a little nap is a good thing, right,
I mean this is good for us.

Speaker 7 (06:19):
You're happy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
So we have all kinds of things, whether it's over
the counter medications, prescription medications, some of which help you
hallucinate if you wake up in the middle of the night.
You can cook, you can eat, you can have sex,
you can drive, all kinds of weird things with the
pharmaceuticals involved with sleep issues. How big of a problem
is sleep, either deprivation or other disorders form app to you?

(06:41):
Do you name it that you deal with that we
as a people deal with in the human condition?

Speaker 4 (06:45):
Do you think, Well, they're they're becoming more and more prevalent,
and the biggest problem has been sleep deprivation. We get
busier and busier and we sleep less and less. And
that's one of the reasons that daylight saving time. It's
probably because if we do sleep about and we don't
get an extra hour of sleep, we sleep an hour
less from what we were doing before because it's light

(07:08):
and we can and we have things to do, and
you know, we see Little League and that Little League
and other you know, youth sports. Sure, you know, playing
until eleven o'clock at night in the spring of the
summer because they you know, we're trying to get all
of the teams in and so everybody's up later. We've
got the kids up later, and then they don't do
as well in school because they didn't get enough sleep.

(07:30):
And so thirty eight percent of teenagers have fall asleep
in the first hour class. That was they don't get
a sleep at night.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
So what's the answer, I mean, because you can't just say, hey,
I'm taking a nap, certainly in school. On the job,
there's not a lot of jobs where they embrace the
idea of letting you have a nap or taking that
extra long line and latch. And if you're doing that,
you're probably not doing the nap. And other healthy things.
Who knows what's going on in our days.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
Well, the biggest thing for us to do. I mean,
it depends on where we are. But first of all,
we have to value sleep as opposed to thinking that
sleep somehow means that we're lazy and that we're somehow
stronger better people for being sleep deprived. So for schools,
you know they're already starting to do this is by
having a later start time because the school kids' body
clocks are a little bit later, so we don't torture

(08:17):
them by dragging them out in the middle of the night.
If you will the class that helps and for us,
I think that many people have found that working from
home has been very helpful because they could actually often
adjust their work schedule more towards their own body clock. Additionally,
if you take out all the commute time and actually

(08:38):
just got to the work time, that actually worked out
better for lots of people. I'd like to go to
work because I like to have my family. My work
and my family life's a little bit separate.

Speaker 8 (08:51):
But.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
The commute is no fun. So having more time to
either be at work or at home and less time
on the road makes everybody's body clock and there's sleep
time better, Yeah, more a little bit easier.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Don't want a sleepless guy in a truck or bus
next to me or something like that. Job while let
alone on the phone trying to you know, either find
the right thing to stream or read. I've seen people
do makeup, you know who didn't get enough sleep while
they're behind me on Montgomery Road trying to get into
this place.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
It's just ridiculous. I agree.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
What am I not asking Doctor Ann Romaker from University
of Cincinnati talking Sleep Center, sleep disorders and problems. What
is relevant to bringing ahead in the spring as far
as get navigating through this and not showing up an
hour early because I remember with the time change at
one point something was missed and going to school earlier
that I was supposed to because Mom thought I was
just full of crap, and it wasn't because I was
just honest. It was just because she was like, nah, nah, no,

(09:45):
you're gonna go there, and nothing was changed.

Speaker 9 (09:48):
I know.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
I walked into church one Sunday and walked right up
to the front to sit down, and it was.

Speaker 9 (09:53):
They were over because it was well, you missed.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
It, miss I missed the hour.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
See oh no, it's time for pancake, and you didn't
even realize you were skipping out.

Speaker 5 (10:02):
That's not good anyway.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
The things that we can do to help our to
help us Swiss sleep are to actually, once the time changes,
really stick to the you know, go ahead and go
to bed earlier, you know, or it helps if you
can start doing things, you know, fifteen minutes or twenty
minutes earlier the week before. Most of us don't manage

(10:25):
to do that, but once the new time hits, you know,
really stick to it. It's if you can get to
sleep a little bit, you know, half an hour earlier
or later, depending on which which season we're talking about,
which way the time of the clock's going. Most of
us are sleep deprived enough that we could we could
try to we could make the change about half an
hour of the night before.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
And my guess is at this point also then drinking
and drugs of one type or another over the counter
prescription not necessarily the right answer to squeeze in that
extra fifteen minutes, either preparing earlier, sleeping earlier off wise,
because that incremental thing is great, But like I have
a weird schedule where one night I might be on
at mid nine. I may be on at seven or six,

(11:07):
I may be on at noon, and then it whiplashes
and you just try to tuck in that extra couple
of hours and then it hits you a day or
so later. You come home and sit down, and then
the next thing you know, it's three in the morning.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
When you have an irregular schedule like that daylight saving
time changes, it's but either way, aren't going to have
it's big an effect because you already have an irregular clock,
right You're already off, So that's you know you're going
to need something. You're not going to have a schedule.
There's nothing that you're going to be able to do

(11:38):
in that regard as opposed to having a strategy for
coping with an irregular, you know, timeframe that you have
to work with a little different from the other folks
who have to show up at the same time for
work every day. They're the ones who have a bigger
problem with the change in the clock time than you will.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Blunt head trauma is always a good thing. I'm joking though,
I mean, but I was like a cartoon that always
hits you in the head and.

Speaker 5 (11:59):
Take your nap or whatever. But it's a whole other story.
Probably not a good time.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
That's not good and we're gonna Yeah, we don't really
go for the We don't need medications to fall asleep
to adjust to the clock, as much as you probably
need a little bit of caffeine to keep in the
mornings or whatever if you're especially in the in the
spring when you're trying to get up earlier, you're trying
to keep yourself safe and alert.

Speaker 8 (12:23):
On the road.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
But no, we can let the sun of the Actually
what really works is sun exposure. That's what helps us change.
So in the mornings, you know, being exposed to sun,
and then in the evening, to get able to get
to sleep a little faster now that we're on the
new schedule would be to sort of dim the lights,
don't and get off electronics an hour before the new bedtime.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
So the blue light is a problem right in that
whole concept. Yeah, do those blue blocking glasses work when
it comes to that, because I bought a pair, but
even on the website where I got them, they made
a point that they called it like snake oil, which
I think sort of gives the impression that it's just here,
we're selling some stuff because people want it, but we
don't think it's really doing anything.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
We actually don't know. We thought it was a great idea,
but it's hard to tell because all of the glasses
have the light in different places, so that you know,
if you have light coming straight in it's your retina
versus it's coming down from a hat or done from
the top of the eye. All that makes a difference.
Turns out that what makes the biggest difference is how

(13:27):
long you're exposed to light, and room light is actually
good enough for changing in terms of blocking the light,
we haven't. We haven't been really great at that by
putting filters and usually what you're doing is you're actually
putting like a yellow filter in so that you're getting

(13:48):
you're not getting the blue through it. But that hasn't
It seems great, but it hasn't really panned out. We
don't somehow haven't figured out how to really make that
work yet.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
I should probably not chew up a melatonin like pez
and think that that's going to help me either.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
No, melotonin. Actually you can use it to help change
the body clock, but you would want to take it
three to five hours before the desired bedtime. It does not.
It makes you kind of drowsy for about half an hour,
but it does not really increase your total sleep time.
It generally increases sleep by four minutes tonight, which is

(14:26):
not enough for you to really know. But it's really
good at helping you change the clock.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
That's not even the five minutes snooze. I mean right right,
it seems almost useless.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
So if you wanted to help change the clock, you
would take one or one to three million doesn't take
very much. You'd be taking that like right after supper
to try to help you get to sleep, you know,
you know, four or five hours later.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Doctor and Romaker, University of Cincinnati, Sleep Issues, Sleep Center.
How can people find out more?

Speaker 4 (14:58):
They can call four seven five seven five hundred or
look at our website.

Speaker 5 (15:03):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
I could probably be studied. You do like the sleep
apney thing, you put a mask on, somebody watch see.
I don't know about the idea where people come in
and they actually watch you while you sleep. I can
kind of wake up with those dreams anyway.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
But no, actually they're busy. They're not looking at you
so much as they're watching the monitors, which is looking
at your breath they're not. The monitor is looking at
you or looking at the computer read out of what
you're breathing, and your oxygen and your heart rate are doing.

Speaker 5 (15:29):
Okay, that's good to know you're not.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
It's not like you're in the zoo. It's not like
you're on display.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Please don't knock on the glass or feed the animals.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
Right, won't do any of that.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
That's just here. That's a whole other thing. Not at
U see, not even at the Cincinnatis. Just here at
the big one, doctor An Romaker, University of Cincinnati. Thanks
for making time. Enjoy your weekend in all righty my pleasure.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
You take care.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Thanks you too. More Sterling coming back seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 5 (16:18):
I go it's true. It's very true.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
And Rev's baseball later on from the Desert. We'll talk
to Pat Brennan about that. From the Inquired Glendor from
a Cedarville College about well, the Middle East and all
that's going on with the run, and in the news
in the last I don't know how many days, all
of a sudden, it seems like people have started to
shoot each other more regularly.

Speaker 5 (16:40):
We're quick to the gun. I don't know why.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
And in the news up in Mainfield, not far from
my buddy's mom's house or where she was, that Kroger
there there was a They shut it down Friday night,
at least for the evening after what it was not
a shooting at the grocery. It was a shooting apparently
at a nearby property, and it was not shooting someone

(17:03):
but just shooting. And those rounds tend to go somewhere,
and it ended up busting through a Kroger and injuring
two people, and it's just bizarre. So, I mean, it's
a real simple thing here. If you have a firearm,
hand it, handle it responsibly, and if you're gonna shoot,

(17:23):
make sure that you've got a backstop of some sort
to stop those rounds. It wasn't that long ago. In
the news, I don't think it was six months ago,
there was a story about a guy who was firing
off rounds and it ended up like escaping where the
yard where the guy was shooting, and that ended up
hitting a woman who was holding a baby. Missed the baby,

(17:43):
but hit her like in her chest cavity or something
and killed her. And I've told the story in New
Orleans and when I was there bringing in New Year
some years ago, and what was really bizarre was popping
off rounds to celebrate the New Year, because people do
like to shoot guns, you know, on New Year's you're
doing that, you're popping off rounds into the sky. Maybe

(18:04):
a knee beorated, hopped up on the goofballs, drunk probably
or high whatever those rounds fall. And unfortunately, that woman
dropped dead in the French quarter there with a round
that hit her on the top of the head. They
couldn't figure out what possibly could have happened at first,
and then they figured it out. It was just devastating.

(18:24):
It makes no sense, which then leads me to what
happened to the Supreme Court this last week, which was
the arguments of a group of people that are looking
to keep people who legally use marijuana an intoxicant, of course,

(18:44):
from being allowed to possess firearms, which is a right
here in these United States to bear arms, Second Amendment
and all. And I sort of scratched my head at that.
So I'll ask you this because it seemed like the
questions that were being asked by those in those black
robes sitting on the bench at our Supreme Court who

(19:06):
decide what really is law in this country and everything
that is our freedom and our liberty, they were asking
probing questions about legitimacy of the idea of taking away
people's rights, whether it's forweed or some other type of
intoxic or a medication that one may be prescribed. And

(19:27):
I'm of the opinion until you act in a behavior
that is dangerous or irresponsible, then until or something criminal,
then your rights are your rights. So I'm going to
ask you this. We'll open up the phones five point
three seven four nine, seven eight hundred, the big one.
You can pick up the phone, give it the finger.
I'm also on x or Twitter, at Stirling Radio and
the iHeart radio app if you're streaming. If it is

(19:49):
in fact this fine Sunday, the eighth of March, you
can click on the microphone and the iHeart radio app
and talk back that way. I'm just wondering is there
a difference between using marijuana and alcohol? And the bottom
line is just because you consume adult beverages or just
because you consume some type of cannabis product doesn't mean

(20:10):
that in the rest of your life when it comes
to defending yourself, your property, going to shoot targets or
feeds your family hunting, that you're going to be mixing
the intoxicants with the fire or usage. They need to
be separate, right, So I'm just curious, is there a
difference between the booze and the weed or anything else
that you may be prescribed. There's a difference between using

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the weapon when you're hopped up on the goofballs out
of your head and have poor judgment, which is often
how the things that I already mentioned at the start
of this conversation tend to occur. People's judgment is suspect
at best. People's judgment is clouded and bad decisions are made.
And it can't be all that different to all. You know,

(20:54):
we are quick to the gun in this country in general,
we just are we do not know how apparently to
deal with conflict and uh on the street. It's like
the wild wild West, is what it seems like. And
whether it's a business that needs to be having metal
detectors and keeping people from coming in who might be

(21:14):
packing heat to having cops on detail work to end
up on a situation at that place that used to
be Annie's, the Riverfront Live that's been in the news.
They caught those two bad guys involved in that shooting
that injured it was a nine people or whatever else
that goes along with that, and the one guy. I
don't think either one of them should have obviously had
weapons in that place, and neither one of them should

(21:36):
have had weapons just in general apparently, and they should
have been screened going in. And the one guy was
defending himself, but he still had a weapon he shouldn't
have had. So we do certainly have a problem about
judgment and about the usage of deadly force and so on.
I want to know what you think. Let's pick up
the phone, give it the finger five one, three, seven, four, nine,

(21:58):
eight hundred. The big one to Dell Hi dug for
f was Stirling on the big one in room for
you in this beautiful Sunday, Doug, what's shaking?

Speaker 12 (22:04):
It is absolutely brings up, sir. I'm going to work
on a gutter real quick. But so look, I this
is something that I've dealt with recently. Just spent a
whole heaping load of money too. I got food over
forgotten that my firearm was in my center console from
the night before. I lived in a little bit of
a rough part of town. It went to the store

(22:25):
of the night before, left it in there, and I
was in the wrong. I had an open beer, charged
with using a firearm while in dods Kate Well One.
I didn't use it anyways, Yes, you gotta. I fought
and spent a lot of money just to be able
to keep my second notent right because I'm usually a
very very responsible firearm owner, and I respect the.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Right that I still have. You know, you're at the range.

Speaker 12 (22:53):
With your buddies or something. Stuff can happen, some super
stuff can happen. I literally read the article about dude
last night. He also had a mortal across the forehead,
so that says a lot about him. What wild dude
you shot up with? Clovers, like, come on, you don't
shoot it nothing. I'm not gonna say. I ain't never
even let mine go on New Year's Eve. But right

(23:14):
into the grass, not into the air. They got away somewhere.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
It's a brutal thing, and I'd never I'd heard about it,
you know, but I hadn't progressed beyond beating pants and
pots together as a child. But when I was in
New Orleans, that woman, it was New Year's we were
leaving a restaurant, and that the crowd went crazy. And
this is before what happened a couple of years ago.
This is quite a while ago, before I moved back
to Ohio and I we were all trying to figure

(23:41):
out what happened. And then it was like unbelievable, because
it never they do come down. They'll bust up a roof,
they'll bust up a vehicle, and they'll put a hole
in your head too, Doug.

Speaker 5 (23:51):
I appreciate them.

Speaker 12 (23:54):
Your bestelling on the radio on seven hundred, brother, I
wish you were on more than on the Sunday.

Speaker 7 (23:58):
Well.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
I appreciate you the words and your listening. I'm curious,
So what happened when that when you went to court
and all that, you still have your right to have
the firearm.

Speaker 5 (24:06):
What what are you doing different?

Speaker 12 (24:09):
Well, I'll never I'll make sure one I'm not going
to drive with an open container at that point, had
my fire I'm not been in the car. I would
have got ticketed in sent on my way.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Gotcha, you know what I mean? But I got you. Well,
it's relaxed. I think we got a Doug thank you.
So if people get calm and relaxed and speak like
they would if we were just hanging out, and it's
the sort of the way it goes, but it's tough
and decisions are a part of that.

Speaker 7 (24:36):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
You know something else that came up just the other
day and a friend of mine said that he thought
it was over the top, and he said he had
mentioned because we've had conversations off the radio about it,
off the show and then also on the show here
and talking about parents who have kids who get their

(24:58):
hands on weapons and either go commit criminal acts or
get their hands on parents' guns, or they have their
own weapons and then they go out and do something
crazy and insane and dangerous and criminal or otherwise or
do worse and actually kill people or cause them harm.
And my take is simply this, if as a kid

(25:20):
and I was a young sterling, tiny sterling, and I
was out and I was vandalizing cars and houses in
the neighborhood, and my mom would have to of what
put men in a situation to be culpable for restitution
repair in making people whole as a result of my
activities and behaviors. In a court just recently did that

(25:41):
very thing to some extent with a parent who effectively
allowed their kid who they knew had mental problems, who
had issues with violence or at least fixated on school
shootings and so forth, and then they let him have weapons,
and then he went out and of course used those weapons,
and people like, well, that's just it's not the parent's fault,

(26:02):
Well when is it. At some point it's the young
person's fault. And at some point we grow up, regardless
of where we came from the environment we grew up in,
how little or how much we have, you are grown,
you do adult crimes. You're going to do adult cime
and should be held accountable and responsible. Accordingly, the other
side of the coin is if momy and daddy facilitate

(26:27):
that behavior, if mom, me and daddy ignore, turned a
blind eye, or are indifferent to those behaviors, the dangers,
the threat that they pose, not just to the neighborhood,
the community at large, or in the home, or to themselves.
Then they have failed. No different than if you manufacture
a car, or a widget or a pair of headphones

(26:48):
that may recavic or cause harm in the community, your others.
You should be held accountable. I don't think that is
over the top. You know what point?

Speaker 7 (27:00):
You know?

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Parents need to stand up and say, you know what,
we made this, we did this, and this is our
fault too. Five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, eight
hundred the big one your chance to get interactive? Uh
with me on the big one? And Tom now in
seven hundred, wulw Tom, what's going on?

Speaker 13 (27:18):
Yeah? It's good, good afternoon, I guess it is. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Uh, you lost the hour. It's hard to say. It
shouldn't be noon yet and it's almost one. I want
to know where the hour went? Where is the hour?

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Tom?

Speaker 13 (27:30):
I'll tell you this. I have a friend of mine
that's from Michigan who lived in Ohio where I met her.
If she moved back to Michigan. She called me yesterday,
so I decided to call her that early. Norman. She
calls on Sunday. I said, you call me an hour early.
You called me a day an hour early. It's only Saturday,
so I didn't know that. Michigan.

Speaker 5 (27:50):
Well, what can you do?

Speaker 7 (27:52):
Right?

Speaker 5 (27:52):
They're okay up there. I liked good fish and good
food too.

Speaker 13 (27:55):
Yeah, uh yeah, this is this is quite a problem
for them to rule upon, I think because mentally, who
knows if this guy is saying or I'm saying, there's
a lot of irresponsible people. That's what really we're talking about.
And also parents now too. I don't know how they
were going to rule on this, but I wanted to

(28:18):
also bring up something they've been advertising on the radio.
I don't have TV. Uh this burner like, oh sure.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Yeah, less less than lethal most of the time, type
of weapon, yeah, or defense.

Speaker 13 (28:32):
I'm glad you said most of the time. Because they're
advertising they say everybody in the family should have of these. Well,
my god, children get a hold of guns. As it is,
they get a hold of one of these, if they
fired into the face of a brother or sister or
something like.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
That, Yeah, bad bad things could happen. It's kind of
tough and you got to have you know lines. I mean,
I grew up in a household and i'd go to
my aunt and uncle's house for that matter, and you know,
hunting people. And they had it was a what do
you call it like a shotgun and rifle case or
whatever you want to call it where they were stored.

Speaker 10 (29:05):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
They even had like a deer head on the wall
with you know, and and and the the little hoofs
and then the like deer legs holding up like one
of those weapons in a crossbow. And I knew Tom
is a very young child that that had on the
wall those legs holding up that rifle as well as
the crossbow that was across the way being displayed.

Speaker 5 (29:27):
Uh, was lethal.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
And I knew that it was my ass if I
picked it up and misused it, let alone messed with it.

Speaker 5 (29:34):
And I respected that.

Speaker 13 (29:36):
Yeah, here's also where we are. Parents. In church one
day a couple of weeks ago, there were two three
year three to four five year old sisters playing with
one of those smartphones yep, playing games during during services.
And I should see this all the time anymore that
the parents get it. It's not good, not healthy, No

(30:00):
kind of divides the family. The family is no longer
a unit, they're individual. That's terrible.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
It's kind of in that situation, it's kind of pacifier
if it's not loud and distractive to others, and it'll
keep in quiet. In that case, I can play a
game or read along. I remember when I was little,
I go to church, whatever. Sometimes I give me a
book besides the Bible to sort of keep me entertained
because obviously it run long. But there's no question the doom,
scrolling and getting sucked in there in social media stuff,
there's a lot of dangers, Tom, I appreciate the call.

(30:26):
One final question before I let you bounce. I appreciate
you reaching out with the Supreme Court and the decision
about the issue of intoxic intoxicants. Do you think it's
any different for someone who occasionally has beer or or
you know, some other type of alcoholic beverage or something
in marijuana, which is at this point legal for adults
to use recreationally or by way of you know, prescription

(30:48):
for medicinal purposes. As long as you're responsible with it,
shouldn't make any difference that you consume these intoxicants and
have weapons or no.

Speaker 7 (30:56):
Do you think well, I think they drop the case.

Speaker 13 (31:01):
Myself, a spreme court, I don't think this should even
rule on one way or another. I don't know if
that's possible or not.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
Well, they took the case, take it to the lower.

Speaker 13 (31:10):
Put it back down to a lower court.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Yeah, we'll see how it goes. Hopefully they make the
right decision. Tom, I appreciate the call man, and you're listening.
We'll take a quick break, give you a chance to
get interactive. Coming back as well later. Pat Brenham from
Cincinnati dot Com covers those reds. He's in the desert.
We'll talk to him. He didn't lose an hour because
they don't change time in and around Goodyear, Arizona. I

(31:34):
believe the Navajo Nation maybe is also another area that
does not switch. But some of the state does, some
of the state does, and it's confusing. But either way,
he's not sleep deprived at least by that hour. He
might have been doing other stuff out there. I don't know.
We'll talk to him about one thirty five later on. Also,
International Studies expert Professor of history and Government Glenn Door

(31:57):
from Cedarville University going to join me after two o'clock
and we'll talk about what's going on with Iran moving
forward with the region. I mean, there's so many different
pieces and parts and layers that go into that. It'll
be interesting to get his perspective and insights analyzing that.
After two o'clock hang out, Lots to do. I hope
you're enjoying a beautiful Sunday afternoon. Reds baseball coming up

(32:19):
about three point thirty five pre game, first pitch just
after four, right here from the desert, taking on those Diamondbacks.

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You ever work at the cash register or customer service
and have somebody come in and not have a receipt
and look to return something that they say they bought
and they don't have the credit card, You go, well,
you have the credit card, we can check the receipt
and then you can compare and contrast. Someplaces it's easier,
at someplaces it's harder. And I'm not even talking about

(33:58):
like fraud. I'm talking about like you've got it, You've
had it in the back of your vehicle driving around,
if it's small like me, and you're like I've been
meaning to bring this back to the store.

Speaker 5 (34:09):
I thought I had to receive my wallet.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
I don't have it, and they kind of look at you,
and then there's a line, and then you're a spectacle
and you're like, you know what, I don't even care,
don't worry about it. I'll take it with me anyway,
or they'll go well to give you a store credit
or something along those lines. There are people that aren't
innocent in that. There are people that this is their business,
is a criminal endeavor, and this story out of media

(34:32):
is a bewildering one to me, and I'm curious working
in retail, what you've encountered was someone trying to rip
you or the store off and bringing stuff back, because
I've heard some of this stuff is crazy and it
can be ridiculously expensive, and we all pay the price

(34:52):
in the end for this. This woman accused of bringing
in some seventeen hundred or more turns to home Depot
and a what they call a multi state organized retail
fraud scheme, was busted in part for fraudulent cost an

(35:12):
excess of two hundred and sixty thousand dollars more than
a quarter of a million dollars, which is hard for
me to even understand. And it wasn't one store, it
was a bunch of these stores, and apparently other people
would be involved. There were fake driver's license and IDs
with which then you kind of go, how do you

(35:33):
get a driver's license that's fake, that looks valid that
you can go in and do that, which, you know,
there's a lot of questions in associated with that. She
had other you know, aliases, they got store credit, ripped
people off in other ways. I guess going along with
that would resell some of the products online. In that situation,

(35:54):
she'd apparently in a group of these people or at
least just her, had gone to a store of Miamisburg,
also in Milford as well as up I guess we're
just closer to her home in Madina and some other
spots that go along with that, and into the Kentucky
I just it's amazing. I remember when I worked at
the grocery store, and I mean, you're selling food. It

(36:17):
was a regular grocery store. They called it the grocery bar,
and I've mentioned it before. I know, don't get annoyed,
but in this situation, the most glaring thing when it
comes to theft that comes to mind. Wasn't someone trying
to return food or anything else. It was a woman
who tried to steal like a frozen turkey and waddle
out of the store after checking out with like, I

(36:39):
don't know, some gum or something inconsequential. And I mean,
it's not like turkeys were ridiculously expensive, and if she
was really hungry, a frozen turkey wouldn't have done her
any good because you got a thought. You can't just
eat frozen bird. It doesn't work that way. And it
was a whole thing is she was trying to leave
the store and then like one of the guys mentioned,

(37:02):
something started to come at her and then she dropped
the bird and a tumbled. It was a big thing,
and she was wearing a sun dress. It was just
a lot of weirdness. And that's the most glaring thing.
I was at a big box retailer maybe in the
last month or two, and there was someone that they
had police out front, and I couldn't figure out, you know,

(37:22):
and I'm always like, well, is there something involved here
that I need to worry about? And I got to
go in and get like, I don't know a drywall
and I don't know spackling whatever. And I'm in there
and I see that someone had come in and overheard it.
I wasn't trying to get into their business, but I
kind of dipped into the conversation at least hearing it.
And they had brought back like some power tools, and

(37:43):
apparently they had been They stole from the store the
same power tools, then brought them back trying to either
get money or exchange them for other products, and they
got caught, and that's what they were dealing with. So
I'm just wondering, if you work in retail, know what
you've had to encounter, because it makes it tough for
legit customer who has a need to exchange or return

(38:08):
something sometimes and it's it's crazy. I just don't I
can't process a quarter of a million dollars worth of stuff.
If you use the power of that thievery for positive
you probably can make even more money. That's a serious
business that takes time, that takes planning, that stakes, strategizing.
Five point three seven four nine seven eight hundred, The

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Speaker 15 (38:39):
Just coming back to a uh perfect north It's carnival
day out there.

Speaker 5 (38:44):
Oh nice.

Speaker 15 (38:45):
They know how to celebrate the end of season.

Speaker 5 (38:47):
Anyway, and it is close to the season.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
I know it's sad for a lot of people, but
I'm telling you, it's almost shorts weather, and I can
almost smell the freshly cut grass a great American ballpark
and the weeds growing in my yard.

Speaker 15 (39:01):
And there weren't people out there skiing in shorts.

Speaker 5 (39:03):
So the way it should be, right, good time. That's awesome.

Speaker 15 (39:08):
Okay, So I'm gonna give you a couple extremes. Some
check out at Walmart. I'm a very honest person. I
get through and I realized I didn't scan something. There's
a person standing there. Nothing caught. I went back through
and I scanned the item for which I.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
Didn't pay right, Yeah, now, which and.

Speaker 15 (39:32):
I'm trying to tell them, guys, you need to have
a better system. Now to the totally opposite extreme Kroger,
Like I laid down in the self checkout. I laid
down a prescription above the bagging area. So I thought
it goes you have laid something down in the bagging area.
And you haven't paid for it, so please remove it.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
So I had to hold my.

Speaker 15 (39:55):
Prescriptions of Kroger knows if you are holding something that
you haven't paid for it.

Speaker 5 (40:01):
Oh yeah, and.

Speaker 15 (40:02):
I'm not sure why other places Jump aren't as good
as Broker. And then at some place that was really good,
and then that I thought a stupid move was TJ Max.
It used to be they had a separate return plate,
so when you want in with a return, you returned

(40:24):
it before you went shopping. Now you might as well
go shopping. Well, who's to say you get the pick
up something?

Speaker 5 (40:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (40:32):
You know, So that's all I got but sun topic
and enjoy the sunshine.

Speaker 5 (40:38):
Thank you. I'm gonna try even though I have a
window into a hallway.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
At least I can live vicariously through your you and
enjoying the Sunday sun. You know something else? And ben
in price still just message that Stirling radio on x uh.
What about changing stickers and prices?

Speaker 5 (40:57):
You know?

Speaker 1 (40:58):
That was something they told me to watch out for
when I worked at the grocery store. But I don't
know many places now grocery stores are otherwise? How many
places actually have a price tag on the stuff I mean,
maybe if you're buying clothing and there's a tag, but
I can't tell you whether you're going to a big
box retailer or a grocery store. Pick a brand that

(41:19):
you may be frequenting. I don't know that anybody still
has the stickers, and I would have to go. I
remember that was a big thing, and there's a lot
of money to be saved now thanks to the bar
code and inventory automatically being done generally, but it doesn't
always work because we've I don't know if you've dealt
with this. You go to the website. It says, well,
you can have it ordered and delivered later today or tomorrow.

(41:41):
But there's you know, five of them in stock. Pick
the name of the store at location, and then you
go and then it tells you where it is, and
then it's not there. And then you go to the
counter and you go, hey, I'm looking for this. It
says you have five in stock. They go, you can't
trust the website. I go, well, do you know what
you have? He goes, yeah, there's nothing there. I said,

(42:03):
why is it? Say on the website? It's slow, So
what's the point of it? I don't know. So then
you're in that weird kind of odd situation that goes
with it. But I would have to at the grocery,
you know, you'd price everything other than the actual like
produce you couldn't price directly, you'd weigh it or whatever else,
and you'd have like the ink little gun that you would,
you know, go and literally the tops of cans or

(42:25):
boxes or the stickers, and you'd see people and you
could tell that they had tried to peel off a
sticker because they would be deliberately perforated in parts so
that if you did it, it would tear apart and
you couldn't get away with it. But some people were
very skilled at it, which again, if you're going to
take that kind of time, doing something legal and not

(42:47):
thieving from someone might be a better path.

Speaker 5 (42:51):
It's just bizarre.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
What if you've seen if you work in customer service
with either somebody trying to rip the store off or
coming in trying to exchange stuff or get a re
fun for stuff they haven't bought, it's difficult and to like,
you know, she just mentioned before I let her go,
Su said that I can recall being at a big
box retailer. I left and there was something in the cart.

(43:14):
They were checking me out and missed as I was
loading up the back of the car. I went back
in with it. It was like a thing of batteries
and they were like, you got to return. I'm like, no,
it didn't get wrung out. Here's my receipt. I want
to pay for it. And they acted like I was
a unicorn, and she was like, you brought it back.
I'm like, well, what else was I gonna do with it?
And it's just because you know, I hear my mom

(43:35):
in the back of my head going, don't be a thief.

Speaker 5 (43:37):
Don't be a thief. I raised you better than that.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Boy to Mount Ora and Mike was sterling on seven
hundred WLW.

Speaker 5 (43:42):
How you doing, man, good?

Speaker 9 (43:44):
How are you doing today?

Speaker 5 (43:45):
I'm doing all right.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Have you been ripped off or or what have you
seen when it comes to people trying to scam retail stuff?

Speaker 9 (43:51):
Well, I don't know if it's actually retail, but I
was general manager for McDonald's for like twenty years and
I had a store and I don't say where it was,
but constantly people would come in with their own cups.
I fill up the pop and walk out like they
own the place.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Oh you mean they wouldn't even offer to pay the
refill price or anything.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
No, they just come in and fill it up and
take off.

Speaker 8 (44:16):
Oh wow.

Speaker 9 (44:16):
And I I chased one woman out to the car
and picked on her window and said, hey, you owe
me a buck twenty five?

Speaker 5 (44:25):
How'd that go?

Speaker 9 (44:26):
And he was digging in her purse and trying, you know,
get me some money. It just it's not you know,
the food cost on that is nearly nothing. Yeah, it's
the point that they just.

Speaker 5 (44:36):
Walk in, principal man and walk out.

Speaker 9 (44:39):
And I'm just like them.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Now, you would appreciate this because of what you're talking about.
There was a window of time. It's been years ago.
I went into a sandwich shop and I had at
that point, I was accumulating these go cups from that
sandwich shop. I had bought like three of these cups.
I got a few others and they all had very
similar coloration and logos. So I brought in the refill cup,
ordered my sandwich and chips and all the other stuff

(45:03):
and said I had to refill. And the guy go
and I filled it and he goes, that's not our cup,
and he got like aggrabate I said, it looks just
like the cup you're selling. In fact, it's smaller, right,
And it was like a big dude, I saw I
pay the real price. I said, I don't care what
refaill price. I'm thirsty and I want to eat. And
I was trying to do the right thing, and the
guy got mad. I'm like, I can go across the
street and buy the same cup almost exactly. That's where

(45:25):
it gets confusing. But just bringing a cup in and
trying to hi, you know, a penny's worth of soda,
that's crazy.

Speaker 9 (45:31):
Now tell you what I would do. People would come
in with Burger King coupons or whatever.

Speaker 7 (45:37):
I'd take them, yeah, because.

Speaker 9 (45:38):
Like I said, I'd rather they buy their food here
than to go across the street.

Speaker 5 (45:42):
All day every day.

Speaker 9 (45:43):
It's not like I was being a miser, you know,
and trying pinch pennies. Necessarily. It's just a point of
the audacity to just walk into somebody's place of business
and just fill up and walk out.

Speaker 16 (45:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (45:56):
No, that's that. No matter what it is, it doesn't matter.
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
I mean, it takes some serious stones to think that
you just walk in someplace, do that and leave. I
mean that's just crazy. I mean, I feel weird even
doing it. When I go up and they said, just
take your lit off and we'll refill it, I'm like, Okay,
that seems sanitary, Mike. I appreciate the call man. Take
care of yourself. Glad you're glad you're listening to being
a part of the show. That that's that's wild, you know,

(46:23):
the stuff that you come up with and that people
talk about, or whatever else.

Speaker 5 (46:26):
Some of the other things.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Wardrobing is is a term for retail returns, where people
purchase an item, they use it, then they return it
for a full refund. I can remember in high school
times around prom season or homecoming, and I went to
like I think two proms, none of which, by the way,
were my high school other ones and for some reason,
I don't know why it worked out that way. And

(46:49):
I remember the one girl I was going out with
she was like, I got to return this dress.

Speaker 5 (46:54):
We got to keep it nice.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
I'm like, I'm sorry, what, because it didn't even I
didn't understand what she was saying. She goes, yeah, I'm
gonna return it, so but you're wearing it. And I
remember coming home later on and I'm like, Mom, what
is that she goes?

Speaker 5 (47:08):
You have people do that.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
The other thing is that I mentioned the stolen item
and then bring it back for a reef or whatever else.
Sometimes even though ILL have some type of odd receipt
where they bought it once but stolen multiple items and
then try to have a duplicate receipt for that, which
is odd. Alex, but not our Alex Egan and other
Alex and sometimes for a long time I thought it
was the same. And I'm like, but if you're gonna

(47:30):
act like you're somebody else, maybe change your name. But
it's not him, a different Alex, you said. He mentions
the manipulating the price by swapping UPC stickers, which is yeah,
I mean that's like the barcode, which is no different
than the other tags that I was mentioning before. And
then something else, uh, the empty box return which I've
never heard of this. And I remember being a kid

(47:51):
in working at the one place and there was a
guy who constantly they just made fun of and abused
and they'd be like, you're just dumber than a box
of rocks.

Speaker 5 (48:00):
Well, effectively, it's.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
Like returning a box and you either put you know,
something else in the box that wasn't the right thing,
or even like a different product, or perhaps fill it
with other things that are heavy that aren't actually the
product and then make it look like it's sealed.

Speaker 5 (48:19):
But how much work do you have to do?

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Couldn't you just go out and do the work to
get the stuff that's right? I mean, it is amazing,
and the science and the technology with AI, and you know,
as they watch people through stores and so forth, sometimes
people get yelled at or caught when it's inappropriate and
they didn't do anything wrong, which is always wild. You
can go down the rabbit hole of that on YouTube,

(48:41):
which is spectacular, the good or bad of it. But
it is just amazing the lengths that people will go
to steal stuff. It's just weird. And I just can't
imagine accumulating. I mean, I would like to know how
many years or if how much time was spent for

(49:02):
this woman in whatever group of people she may or
may not have been working with, allegedly Mandiga to end
up in a situation where she had more than a
quarter of a million dollars worth of stuff. And you know,
they probably weren't documenting all the thievery that she was
involved in. But beyond that, I mean, that's a huge

(49:23):
amount of money. I mean, seriously, it's you can almost
hear the prices rising as a result of that. She's
been ordered to actually make that restitution, but she's going
to go to jail, So I don't know whether they
make license plates or tricky triangles or whatever it is
that they pay you for in very little while you're
locked up. That's a significant sum of money to be

(49:48):
able to come up with and try to make restitution
on perhaps like maybe the rest of her life. I mean,
that's a that's a house depending, you know, or really
really nice like man cave or something. I mean, I
don't know, you could live really well for a little bit.

Speaker 5 (50:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
One hundred hours of community service too, there's no money
in that, so I don't know where she's going to
get the restitution. That's crazy. Coming up, by the way,
after your one thirty report. Pat Brennan from Cincinnati dot Com.
He covers the Reds for the inquiry plus Bengals too,
but he's out in the desert where the Reds are
going to take on the Diamondbacks three thirty five. First
pitch today, we'll talk to him about the Reds and

(50:30):
how they're looking, and the World Baseball Classic and issues
with Hunter Green and how promising things look moving ahead,
and a whole lot of other stuff. So hang out.
There's that coming up as well as doctor Glenn Dur
from Cedarville University. We'll talk about what's happening with Iran,
the Middle East and the war that has effectively cost

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us a lot. I got gassed for two eleven the
first part. It was like right lead just after I
think we went to war just before. And then I
got das the other day and it went from two
to eleven, and then I got it for like a
two ninety nine, and then I see it for three
fifty I think across the street. So we're paying there

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and then it's going to go up again. Not to
be the profit of doom, but I'm here to help
because there'll be the summer blend. We're enjoying the warm
weather a little prematurely, this early spring feeling in this
late winter time in the Tri State. Well, when they
start putting that summer blend oil and they got to
shut down these refineries and then switch over, that's going
to cost us too.

Speaker 5 (51:36):
So I mean, I don't mean to bring you down.
I'm sorry. I do apologize.

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Web everything getting ready for Reds baseball and the desert
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on seven hundred WLW with a pregame and they're showing
some dog food ad and there's a bowl of food
and I'm looking at I'm like, that looks great.

Speaker 5 (52:29):
It makes me hungry.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
I'm guessing the ballpark food is probably better than that.

Speaker 5 (52:33):
A good year.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
Pat Brennan covers the Reds and Bengals for Cincinnati dot
Com The Inquirer.

Speaker 5 (52:39):
Welcome to seven hundred WLW. It's been a while.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
How is the desert treating you?

Speaker 2 (52:45):
You know, I can't complain about the weather, so I
got that much going for me. But I heard it's
been nice and Cincinnati two.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
Yeah, it's pretty Maybe it's pretty all right, it's feeling
that way. We will will probably, as usual, get spanked
one more time. Maybe Alex Egan was mentioning off of
the years. It probably like Opening Day, it will snow,
which I've seen. Let's help, Yeah, let's help. There's a
there's another bat of cold coming for sure. Yeah, don't
be the profit of doom. You're bringing me down patch.
I mean, that's not why we have But that's all right,

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that's all right. So you the rest of us are
dragging a little bit because they stole an hour from us.
I don't know where they took it. I don't know
where it went. You didn't have to worry about that
in Arizona because there's no time change.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
Yeah, it's it's nice here. But yeah, I thought I
thought the uh high branches of our government were our bureaucracy.
We're working on this uh this daylight savings thing, trying
to eliminate it. I guess that hasn't happened yet.

Speaker 5 (53:41):
They tried it years ago. I don't know. You can't.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
You know, you can try to change time, you can't
change time. Time changes you. I've heard that somewhere, I
don't know where I am. Yeah, I know that was
cliche as all hell Sorr was. Yeah, man, it's the caffeine.
Everything's fine. All right, let's talk baseball for a minute here. So, uh,
let's start first of all, Hunter Green, what do we
know about because he was coming back to Cincinnati right
to get looked at it and see exactly how he's doing.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
Yeah, no official updates on Hunter yet.

Speaker 7 (54:07):
You know.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Obviously last week it came out that he had been
dealing with the right elbow stiffness.

Speaker 7 (54:14):
Dating back to last year.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Had gone through a couple rounds of what I would
characterize is relatively minor treatment to kind of allow him
to work through that. But it obviously after his first
start of the spring, he didn't quite bounce back the
way he wanted to.

Speaker 7 (54:35):
So the Red has just.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
Decided, whatever this is, we got a nipant in the
bud now. So he did go back to Cincinnati. He
was supposed to see the team doctor Tim Kremchek get
an MRI there, and then he'll go out to La
to see doctor Neil Latrash, who's a real kind of
heavy hitter in this industry with high profile sports figures.

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I think he's also a team doctor for the Dodgers.
But the Reds are still in the process of gathering
all the information and we're still kind of in waiting
CE mode out here in Goodyear.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
Pat Brennan, what does that mean for the red starting
rotation and opening day because you would figure Hunter Green
might be that guy.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Well, actually, I don't know if he saw this. It
just came down in the last thirty minutes. The Reds
have named Andrew Abbott their opening day starter, so.

Speaker 7 (55:31):
And that was somewhat to be expected.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
And that's not really to say with any certainty that
I mean there, we don't have official certainty on what
Hunter Green is dealing with. But while he's been away
seeking medical advice, the Reds shut him down for this week.
The earliest, the absolute earliest he would have been able
to throw, would have been Tuesday, which would have meant

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a full week of being down.

Speaker 7 (56:04):
And I think.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
There were people that probably thought Tuesday probably was not realistic.
So Hunter's losing time at this stage in spring training,
you know time, each missing a day has kind of
a multiplying factor as we get closer to opening day.
So whether Hunter Green's injury was serious or not, it's certain.

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And Terry Francona eventually conceded this when we were talking
about Hunter when we.

Speaker 7 (56:33):
First learned about the injury.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
You know, the math is not in his favor in
terms of starting the year on time. That doesn't necessarily
mean Andrew Abbatt didn't start the year on time. And
look at the year he had. He was an All Star,
he got some cy Young votes and now he's your
opening day starter.

Speaker 7 (56:48):
So no one is precluding.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Hunter from having a you know, being a contributing member
of this Reds team yet.

Speaker 7 (56:56):
But.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
It looks very unlike that he would be able to
start the season on time at this stage at Sterling.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Talking to Pat Brnnan, Cincinnati dot Com covers the Reds
for the inquiry, he's out in Goodyear, Arizona and yeah,
I mean the hope is that you shut him down,
you get him fixed or healthy, mended up, so when
he is able to get back out there, that you know,
he doesn't end up being back and forth from you know,
injured list or otherwise or damage himself even more.

Speaker 5 (57:22):
What's this deal with? Like done?

Speaker 1 (57:24):
I was, I was watching some video and it looked
like he jacked up his knee. Was it yesterday the
day before? And then I know he had had some
problem before that where he was hit by a pitch
or something.

Speaker 7 (57:35):
Yeah, yeah, Blake done.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
It sounds like dodged a bullet. It's a it's a
relatively minor knee injury that he's dealing with. And he
said yesterday, and Terry Francona said again today that you know,
he might miss as few as.

Speaker 7 (57:54):
A couple of days and that'll be the end of it.
So it was an ugly injury.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
And it happened over on the other side of the
valley here in Scottsdale. He came rushing in from deeper
in center to shallow center to try to catch up
to a kind of a softly hit fly ball and
just got just got himself tangled up, and it looked
pretty ugly.

Speaker 7 (58:20):
But I think he even said to me in the
clubhouse yesterday.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
Once he walked off the field, mostly under his own strength,
he started to feel, you.

Speaker 7 (58:29):
Know, a little bit better.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
He'd had some experience. I think he tore the ACL
in that same on that same leg when he was
in high school, so he had some awareness of, you know,
on top of being a professional athlete, these guys know
their bodies so well. He had some initial it was.

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There was definitely a scare factor for him in the
immediate aftermath of going down, But once he started to
walk off the field, I think he realized that it
was it was an okay situation, and the evaluations that
followed that I've kind of more or less confirmed that
not a huge deal.

Speaker 7 (59:08):
Good good.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
It's one of those things where you hear these stories.
Sometimes it's not always like an a pendant race where
somebody's like, now I'm going to suck it up and
deal with it.

Speaker 5 (59:15):
My arm can fall off, that I'll have the winter.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
But going into a season and guys that you know,
depending on where they are in their lifespan as a
professional Major League baseball player, you kind of wonder how
much stuff. Sometimes they keep quiet about aches and pains,
but because you know, the season between now in the
end of September, that's a long way, and people talk
about it being a grind it is.

Speaker 5 (59:39):
It really is.

Speaker 7 (59:39):
It is, it absolutely is.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
And the thing about Blake Done is I've heard people
say that this spring he's looked like a different ballplayer.
And he had a stint or two with the big
league squad last year and was generally productive and that
relatively minor role. But uh, Terry Francona said today, he's

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really been competing and he's one of these guys that's
gonna you know, everyone, someone another writer out here said
to me about this Reds team. He said, that must
be kind of boring covering the Reds right now because
most of the roster spots seem to be spoken for,
and you know, the pitching is kind of just going
to fall into place the way you.

Speaker 7 (01:00:23):
Expect it to.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
But now that that hasn't been the case, you know,
Hunter Green gets injured, that shakes things up, and obviously,
you know you want to see him come back as
soon as possible. But and then then you have guys
that kind of can show up unexpectedly and fresh really
pressed the expected regular players really really hard. Blake Dumb

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was part of that competition out here. So when push
comes to show up, there will be compelling stories coming
out of this camp about how close some of these
position battles ended up being. And then of course a
guy like Blake Dunn, you figure you're him to contribute
at some point along the way anyway, because further injuries,
future injuries, stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (01:01:06):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
Pat Brandon covers the Reds for the inquiries in the
Desert Goodyear Arizona Reds and Diamondbacks. Later on four five
first pitch pregame three thirty five, I'll take you right
up to it. On seven hundred WLW you mentioned the
roster spot issues. Uh in how many spots I've heard too?

Speaker 5 (01:01:24):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Maybe one? But again, you know, constantly it's you know, pitching, pitching, pitching.
You can never have enough in a couple of weeks ago.
It's like, hey, nobody's hurt. Now, you got Hunter Green,
you got guys getting dinged up. How are we with
roster spots? What do you think who's coming north with
the club And it's just a couple of weeks away?

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Oh man, I mean it's the you know, I think
the guys that are interesting.

Speaker 7 (01:01:48):
To look at right now, are you know?

Speaker 10 (01:01:53):
All? Well?

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
I'll do like pitchers versus position players first, you know,
Graham Ashcraft is a is one of your leverage relievers,
and he's gotten hit pretty hard so far this spring.
And you know, Andrew Abbitt got hit somewhat hard against
the Giants the other day.

Speaker 7 (01:02:11):
But you know, it was nice to hear him come.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Out afterwards and say like, well, I'm done experimenting and
I'm done tinkering. Now I'm going to get down to
the business of pitching the way I would in the
regular season. At leads to the extent that he's conditioned
for that at this point, So you knew that. You know,
Andrew was just working on things which you expect at
this point. Now we're two and a half weeks away from.

Speaker 7 (01:02:33):
Opening day, he can get down to business.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
I don't get the sense that this was a situation,
or this has been a situation where Graham Ashcraft was tinkering.

Speaker 7 (01:02:44):
I think it's just been a little bit of a
little bit laborious forms.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
It's been hard for him so far, and I think
that was especially evident earlier this past week against Cuba,
which was a team that was completely and totally overmatched
by by the Reds.

Speaker 7 (01:03:03):
But Graham had.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Trouble in that Gamelyn. Look, I think he'll be fine
but you just wonder breaking camp, if you know, if
any of if anyone that you figure is sharpeet onto
this roster could potentially dig themselves a big enough hole
if they can't get out of it, at least for
to start.

Speaker 7 (01:03:23):
The season on time. And then position player.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
Wise, I think there are four spots available. Jose Travino
is clearly an undisputed lock for one of those, and
then you have JJ Blade, Dane Myers, who I also
think looks good right now. Nathaniel Lowe, who has an
incredible story. It's kind of happening in real time at

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camp right now he's playing.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
How cool is that to watch, by the way, where
you see someone start to shine like him right now?

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
Yeah, I mean it's great, and it's the most compelling
part of it is that I'm benown to us his
mother passed away from a long battle with cancer on
March fifth, whatever day of the week that was last week.
But he played in that game against the Dodgers that
day and hit a home run and we didn't, none
of us do about that in the media corps until

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after the fact, and we just spoke to Nate about
it this morning. So he's he's playing kind of to.

Speaker 7 (01:04:23):
Honor his mom right now.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
And that's that's super admirable and interesting. And he's gonna
stay in camp. He stayed in camp and is going
to stay in camp and try to win a roster
spot for himself. So and then you know, look, getting
back to the big view of those four available spots
bench spots, well, Benson has to be in that conversation,

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and you know, that's five players right there that you
would like to have on this team. But the way
I see it, there are only four spots for those
five names. And there might be other guys that I'm
over I'm overlooking at the moment, but you know that, uh,
those are the kinds of Blake don We're just talking
about him.

Speaker 7 (01:05:06):
He's had a good camp.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
There are just gonna be these guys are gonna do
what the Reds need them to do, which is force
Terry Francona and his staff to make really tough decisions.

Speaker 7 (01:05:18):
That's ultimately what you want.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
Yeah, I mean, that's that's a good spot to be in, right,
to make tough choices like that, because then down on
the farm you've got other options and ships perhaps later
to give guys an opportunity to play elsewhere and bring
in talent that can bring you know something later on too.
Pat Brennan, by the way, covers the Reds for Cincinnati
dot Com. That's the inquiry if you didn't know. He's
in Arizona playing and the desert giving us some time
on the Big One with Sterling on a Sunday before

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they play the Diamondbacks four oh five. We were talking
about pitching too, and I don't want to twist too
far off the beaten path, as Lance would say, but
I'm curious the last couple of years we've seen more
of these openers rather than starters. And then the issue
of bullpen, and we talk depth on pitching and out
the game. A lot of conversations. I peeped the last

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couple of weeks on this. It's interesting to see the
progress going where really the differentiation from starting pitching to
the bullpen and how guys work that that's maybe more
vague or grayer than it's ever been, just because you're
looking for somebody to come in and give you four
innings or three and it's whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
Yeah, right, Yeah, I'd say I generally agree with everything
you just said. Uh, you know, last year that was
the Brent Suter role or or the Nick Martinez role.
I mean one of Nick Martinez is many roles for
this team, but you had a couple what what guys

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there who I just amed, who were so well suited
for that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
Yeah, it's extremely interesting, and I guess it's a sort
of a transitional period. We got just a couple of
minutes left the other thing. That's been nice to see.
And I don't know what Terry Francona has said about this,
and obviously you know they've made some changes as far
as coaching is concerned. But what we've seen, and we
know Suarez has come back into the full home again
to Cincinnati and so forth, but we have seen an

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onslaught of offensive production that has been effectively spectacular. What
have they said about what could be if it goes well?
More of a murderer's row of consistency in really producing offense?

Speaker 7 (01:07:24):
You're right.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
I mean they scored fifty runs over three games this
past week and that was with has you know, Suarez around,
he's away at the World Baseball Classic at the moment.

Speaker 7 (01:07:36):
Also still hitting home runs there by the way, Yes see, but.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
You know it's tough to get a read on I
think at this point in camp, honestly, you can't read
into the stats. We had an interesting conversation in Tito's
office this morning, Starling where we were talking about the effect.

Speaker 7 (01:07:54):
Of the wind out here that reads.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
Dodgers game last week on Mark fifth, that where Nate
Low hit his home run.

Speaker 7 (01:08:03):
The day is Mother Pat. There were ten home runs
in that game.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
There was a humongous, stiff breeze blowing out that day.
Yesterday up in surprise, the wind was knocking balls down
left and right. So you know that's one of the
and the wind is just one of the reasons out
here that Terry Frankcona just doesn't look at stats, doesn't

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care about stats, spring training stats. We know the games
don't matter, but he doesn't even use the statistics as
part of his evaluation, or if he does, it's to
the smallest, smallest extent. He's he's an eye test guy,
it sounds like, which is refreshing to me. And there
are plenty of people in the organizations who are gonna
put numbers in front of him and they'll they'll use

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that information wisely and the way they need to.

Speaker 7 (01:08:51):
But he know's a big eye test guy. And but there's.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
No question, you know, I asked him after they hit
the fifty run threshold over the three games. I think
that was after the Dodgers game. Uh, I said, you know,
I know you don't care about stats, but at some
point this all this scoring and hitting has.

Speaker 7 (01:09:07):
To be meaningful.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
And he said, oh, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 7 (01:09:10):
I mean he'd rather see them. That's better than the alternatives.

Speaker 5 (01:09:13):
Yeah, right, yeah, you don't want offensive anemia.

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
Bring home the runs and manufacture what's necessary, whether they
go out of the ballpark or not.

Speaker 5 (01:09:21):
So we'll see how it comes together.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
Pat, thanks for making time on a Sunday here, and
we lost the hour you didn't so you don't care
hanging out.

Speaker 7 (01:09:30):
I'll lose it on the back end in a few weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
Oh yeah, yeah, added bonus. That's right. You'll be tan,
resting and relaxed. Make sure you're ready for snow and
welcome down. He's Pat Brennan covers the Reds for Cincinnati
dot Com The Acquire Thanks for making time.

Speaker 5 (01:09:42):
I appreciate you, man, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
Yeah, you got it, buddy, Thanks a lot.

Speaker 5 (01:09:45):
Take care of yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
More sterling coming back after your two o'clock report we'll
talk Middle East issues the Iran wore doctor Glendor from
Cedarville University right here with Sterling on the home of
the Red seven hundred w WELW, Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
Now about what's going on in the Middle East and
with the US Israel war against Iran, but someone who
does know a thing or two about international studies, an
expert in fact, and share a history and government Cedarville
University and Beaver Creek City Council member. Holy crap, he's
got a lot on his play giving us some time
on a Sunday afternoon, Sterling, Doctor Glenn Door, Welcome to

(01:10:25):
seven hundred WLW.

Speaker 5 (01:10:27):
How are you this afternoon?

Speaker 6 (01:10:30):
Yourself?

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
I think I'm okay, I'm missing an hour, but I
think I've maybe filled up the vacant hour with the
extra caffeine. So I'll try to like throttle it down
to be able to have a reasonable conversation. So hopefully
I appreciate you making time. As we stand right now
a week into this and what seems to be a

(01:10:51):
very widespread engagement of hostilities in and around the region
between Bahrain and Kuwait, issues and cutter in Saudi Arabia.
Obviously Iran in questions about the threat of terrorism around
that region, but also domestically, how do you see this
Iran war thing moving at this point and where we are.

Speaker 14 (01:11:16):
If we back up to December of twenty twenty five,
we saw really significant protests in Iran, really the largest
since the nineteen seventy nine revolution, and the regime put
it down very very heavy handedly. Internal estimates suggests five
thousand dead, but externally some thirty five thousand. It's really

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been absolutely brutal, coupled with a sputtering economy, a currency
that can't really be exchanged on the international market, and
a regime that's put together an attempted nuclear weapon where
it's spread out across one hundred and thirty sites. The
country that's very difficult, is heavily authoritarian, and so in

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the interim week, certainly a lot of successes in terms
of neutralizing major leaders, including the Iyatola, putting a Ran
on its heels. Certainly, there's uncertainty around the oil industry
and natural gas with the closing of the Strait of Hormuz.
But all in all, I think there are some successes.

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The key question though, is what happens next. Will there
be regime change or will this regime continue. It looks
like a new iatola will be announced in the forthcoming days,
and so really a mixed bag. But in terms of
protecting protesters, some good that's come out of.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
This, Doctor Glendur's they share a history and government, and
a professor of international studies Cedarville University was sterling on
the big one as we have a history, obviously putting
aside very recent issue with the Venezuela, how has the
record of the United States been when it comes to

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taking out these dictators and these hostile threats that we have,
and then you know that idea I guess of regime change.
And the President has been a very outspoken the last
couple of days about saying that he wants a hand
in the decision, if not the decision about who runs
that country. How likely is that? Is our track record
good or bad in these type of endeavors, however many

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they have been.

Speaker 14 (01:13:32):
If we zoom out and go back toward the end
of World War Two, it's been over eighty years now
since the Third World War, and if we think about
the proliferation of nuclear weapons, there are only nine countries
that possessed them, and so on that level, the United
States has been extraordinarily successful in terms of leading a
more peaceful world, limiting especially nuclear proliferation and the possibility

(01:13:58):
of nuclear exchange. But I think your question is excellent
on many levels, because regime change authoritarianism is a challenging topic.
And even though more democratic countries have emerged since World
War II, there are some brutal ones that still remain
and some that sometimes flip back, like Iran, and so

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there are really a handful more of really autocratic regimes
from Cuba to Venezuela to Iran that have caused a
lot of problems on the world stage and have caused
a lot of headlines, and having them change is very,
very difficult, and so in that regard, it's very much

(01:14:44):
a challenge because unless you want to do something like
Afghanistan or Iraq, that can lead into something much longer
and potentially a quagmire and cost a lot of American
lives and Allied lives. That's the tricky part of the decision.
It's very very difficult to remove these types of dictators

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people rising up in their countries. That's difficult as well
because the regime holds all the guns and as long
confiscated the guns from anyone that would want democratic and
constitutional change. And so it's a mixed bag. But on
the macro level a lot of success stories. On the
micro level, there are, unfortunately, these Brudeau regimes that stay

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in power.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
Share history and government. At Cedarville University and professor of
International Studies, doctor Glenn gore As who we're talking to,
was sterling on the big one.

Speaker 5 (01:15:38):
In a vacuum.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
The idea of removing a bad leader, a danger, a
threat is one thing, but this is not a vacuum.
You know, things happen, Domino's fall, the region has been
volatile for as long as modern history, or even before
modern history was written. As we look back, religion is

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always a part of this, and I've heard many a
call to my show and others and conversations and people
talking about, you know, the Thirteen Virgins or whatever else,
and people's difference and ideas of what is moral and
not moral in societal differences and expectations. How challenging is
it when there are some regardless of faith it following

(01:16:23):
Islam or Christianity, where people look at this as a
war of faith in God and not about peace and
letting people live their lives as they'd like to.

Speaker 14 (01:16:34):
Certainly there's a religious aspect. This is a regime that's
formerly twelve Shia Islam. The Shea Pod is the minority
of the two larger branches of Islam, and the twelve
is important because it in and of itself, by its definition,

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is seeking an apocalyptic confrontation, and it's one of the
reasons why by several Iranian presidents, notably mak Mudakmadinajad that
served as the president from two thousand and five to
twenty thirteen, really try to develop a nuclear weapon to
promote this apocalyptic since I say he was the president.

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There are elections in Iran, although they are very very
tightly controlled and very few people can actually legitimately run,
so it's still authoritarian even though they have elections. But
to turn the corner on your question in terms of peace,
in terms of people that just want a normal country,

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Iran is a very very young population. It's ninety two million,
but its baby boom occurred in the nineteen nineties, making
the median age of the late twenties early thirties. And
this is a population that's online. They're digital natives for
the most part. The many are on Instagram. They see

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what normal countries look like around the world, and really
they want a normal country for themselves. They want economic opportunity,
they want good employment. All of these things are major
pushes behind the protests in Iran. And I think that's
the heart of your question, because so many people just
want change, and yet a brutal regime that holds the

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guns is still in power, and they have made life
exceptionally difficult for so many.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
Doctor Glendur, He's pressor in studies cedar of the university,
was sterling being we're talking about a run and our
engagement with him.

Speaker 5 (01:18:36):
And I just a body of mine.

Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
Gott He's like, it's not a war, Okay, We'll go
back to the seventies and when I was a little
kid watching the ABC news after school, and then Nightline
came after that, and day after day adding another day
to those hostages being kept there. We never really ended hostilities.
It's sort of been a cold war with you know,
a sporadic bubbling up like the primordial ooze of ugliness,

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effectively in the idea of and I don't know if
I'm using the term correctly asymmetrical war in where we
are now. This doesn't stay isolated to Iran. We've seen
it expand there. We know about Hezballah and all the
other terrorists of sponsoring that has taken place by the
Iranian government. How concerned should we be about our infrastructure,

(01:19:20):
our issues of cyber attack and so forth, to our
interest here, our bank account or anything else, because that's
something that they have state sponsored, just like Russia, just
like China, and even for that matter, just people out
there looking to rip individuals off.

Speaker 14 (01:19:36):
It's certainly a danger. I wouldn't classify it as the
highest highest level of danger by any means, because I
would have expected sleep as cells from Hesbala and other
terrorist organizations to be activated post Octember October the seventh
of twenty twenty three. That would have been my time

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had I thought it been very very low. In terms
of cyber operations, there are large scale attacks that come
from inside Iran. Usually Russia is better developed on this level.
There are a range of different organizations that are quasi
state actors that are linked with the government but technically

(01:20:18):
disconnected with it. That tend to be more dangerous from Russia,
but it shouldn't be overlooked in terms of Iranian capabilities
and what can happen. But I think it goes back
to generic ways of how do we keep ourselves safe online,
dual factor authentication, password protection, these types of areas, and

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really relying on cybersecurity experts within each organization. The NSA
as well. Typically I think will be pretty good there.
But it's also to say this is a time where
vigilance is needed. The larger scale existential danger is a
cyber version of nine and I don't know that the

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Uranians have that kind.

Speaker 9 (01:21:02):
Of capability, but we do have to.

Speaker 14 (01:21:05):
Walk humbly and be careful in that regard as well.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
And doctor Glenndur is a Chair of History and Government
Professor of International Studies Cedarville University, just up the road
Sterling seven hundred WLW. Something that's been talked about and
we alluded to earlier. President Trump has talked about wanting
to install someone in a position of power and authority
to lead run or at least give them a nod
of okay, which gets it's kind of highly suspect if

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somebody said they wanted to pick our leader and so forth.
That becomes troubling, especially for young people who may be
earning for yearning for freedom. But the other wrinkle to this,
and you alluded to it, doctor Dorr, is that the
regime has the power. The regime controls the internet, the
regime controls the economy, the regime controls the guns of

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the weapons, and to unlike here, the right to bear
arms and defend ourselves from outside or inside threats, depending
they don't have that there. How challenging is it to
back to them to step up to be able to
take over if they can, knowing how large their army is,
how well equipped that they are on the ground. Anyway,
in moving ahead, it's a lot to ask for them

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with no way to really defend themselves or make a change.
Do we have to bomb them into the Middle Ages
or before the Dark Ages?

Speaker 14 (01:22:20):
Well, I think you've hit the nail on the head,
because the regime is very, very tightly controlled, even though
there are elections and every now and.

Speaker 13 (01:22:27):
Then there are surprises.

Speaker 14 (01:22:28):
The ninety seven and two thousand and five presidential elections
both yielded unexpected presidents on the world stage, but it's
very tightly controlled. Legitimate opposition figures have long been barred
from running. In two thousand and nine, there was a candidate,
mir Hussein Musavi that probably won the election, but it

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was stolen from him and given to Ahmadinajad, and so
he could be a leader. The Paalavi Shah family has
been discussed of bringing them back and having an option
in that regard, but it probably will be a multi
stage event. I think that the bombing will continue, especially

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on military and nuclear sites. I think they'll be a
drive to really bring the regime to the table and
say okay, you can serve out as a caretaker government,
but we expect some form of announced election and some
form of supervised change that will occur, probably along the
lines of what will hopefully happen in Venezuela in the

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forthcoming months and years. But it's all a big ask
because it's getting people that have never really run for
office or had experience in a governing office to then
take over and lead a country of ninety two million people.
It's a big r but that's essentially what's needed in

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order to bring a RAN into the family of friendly
and the countries that enjoy constitutional rights.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
International studies expert as well as history and government chair
at the Cedar University of Doctor Glendor's was Sterling on
seven hundred WLW. We built a coalition to go after
those responsible for at least is what they told us
were responsible for nine to eleven. Effectively, we saw how
that went. Building a coalition in a group of allies

(01:24:34):
was what started and became NATO, and you know, going
after the Nazis and you know global war effectively World
War two. It takes time, moving armaments, moving you know,
the equipment necessary, and the individuals who put that uniform
on and put their lives in harm's way and unfortunately

(01:24:54):
don't come home a whole or sometimes not at all.

Speaker 10 (01:24:57):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:24:58):
And we ask a lot of our allies, not you,
our men and women and our families here Stateside, to
protect our interest, our safety and security around planet Earth.
So it's not fault here, hopefully. My question in relation
to that is, just in the last couple of days,
President Trump has really gone hard, talking bad publicly about
the UK and England's involvement. Are being slow to get engaged.

(01:25:22):
How much of an ask how difficult of an ask.
On short turnaround with the war, that was fairly obvious
we were going to be engaged in some fashion as
the navy build up was moving into the Gulf region
and some of the aircraft moving into that area wasn't
the biggest surprise. But to ask allies to step up
and have them want questions answered or to get their

(01:25:43):
ducks in a row, it's a tough spot to put
them in.

Speaker 5 (01:25:47):
Is it appropriate?

Speaker 1 (01:25:47):
And how challenging is it to have America's leader do
that to one of our closest historical allies.

Speaker 14 (01:25:55):
I think in pop it's the relationship with Kiss, the
Prime Minister of the United Kingdom that has led to this.
Because UK has long been a very staunch ally. We
think of Churchill and FDR in World War II, or
Thatcher and Reagan in the Cold War, or Bush and
Blair with the Global War on Terror. The United Kingdom

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was right there. It's been a longstanding NATO ally, an
organization founded in nineteen forty nine where the UK has
usually been the second of the third in line behind
the United States to really try and protect global freedom.
But in this moment, Kirstarmer has been a ditherer on

(01:26:40):
the world stage. He really hasn't acted in ways that
are appropriate. He knows that the Uranian regime is brutalizing
protesters within the country, and he hasn't acted really to
protect British interests in the ways that are appropriate. And
Iran actually with its Russia, he drones after the British

(01:27:01):
base in Cyprus in the Mediterranean in the very opening days.
And so I think in many ways it's not so
much about the UK because Trump has had good relations
with Prime Minister Boris Johnson for example, Thereesa May before her.
It's been a bit of a merry go round in
British politics with so many leaders in almost every single year.

(01:27:25):
But with Starma on the left and in the Labor Party,
he really hasn't been a leader globally in this area
where the United Kingdom has been historically. And I think
he's President Trump is really just trying to cajole Labor
into doing more for Kis Starmer to be more of
a Tony Blair rather than someone that just sits on

(01:27:49):
the sidelines.

Speaker 1 (01:27:50):
I've really enjoyed this conversation and you've taken time on
your Sunday, especially after losing an hour to give us
some insight perspective overall as to what's going on.

Speaker 5 (01:28:00):
So I hope you'll come back hopeless. Hasn't been too
painful for you.

Speaker 1 (01:28:04):
Doctor Glen Door is the sheriff, History and Government Professor
of International Studies Cedarville University and the Beaver Creek City
Council member. That's pretty tremendous. Thank you so much. I
hope you have a great afternoon and we'll try to.

Speaker 5 (01:28:15):
This again hopefully you too.

Speaker 6 (01:28:17):
Thank you for having me taking.

Speaker 1 (01:28:19):
Yes, sir, take care of yourself your two thirty reports
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Speaker 1 (01:28:51):
There are a couple of those recently one new this weekend,
and Pixar's back with something new too. That they've created
something and it looks beautiful to the trailers. I've seen
a guy who sees these things. He picks one every week,
he joins us. He can end up in your mailbox
if you find him a silver gecko on the substack.
He was also my partner of the Chubby and Stick podcast.
Kevin Carr, Welcome back to seven hundred w welw wis Sterling.

Speaker 5 (01:29:14):
What is going on?

Speaker 18 (01:29:15):
Oh, not much, just just getting ready to talk to
you about the new Pixar movie.

Speaker 1 (01:29:19):
I guess right, well, I think so. Yeah, Hopper Hopper,
Hopper Hopper has.

Speaker 18 (01:29:23):
Nothing to do with the sheriff from Stranger Things. Don't worry.

Speaker 5 (01:29:28):
Different things, you.

Speaker 18 (01:29:30):
Know, maybe that's what you want and the kids the movie,
you could.

Speaker 5 (01:29:33):
It might be a little different, little strange for sure.
What is this about?

Speaker 1 (01:29:36):
Is this about like all creatures in Woodland, creatures, small
furry things or what exactly is this?

Speaker 13 (01:29:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 18 (01:29:42):
Okay, so the basic gist of it is, there's this
girl who loves this Nate. She lives in a town
that's called Beaverton, and she there's her favorite Glenn that
she was at with her like her grandmother, and grandmother's
passed away. You can't have a Disney movie without a
dead parent. Are relative in there somewhere. But so she

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she wants to save it from being bulldozed for a freeway,
and so she's been going toe to toe with the
mayor and trying to stop it and everything, and she
stumbles upon this technology. I'm not gonna explain how or why,
this technology that allows her to basically project her brain,
her mind into a robotic beaver that is very realistic,
and then she can go talk to the animals and everything,

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and as the beaver as this as this woodling creature,
she starts to try and get them to fight back
and everything. And that's the basic gist of it. It's
it goes in that line of Pixar high concept movies.
This has been a struggle for me for years on
the radio. You know, some things are easy to explain
from Pixar. A you know, a rat that wants to

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be a chef, okay, that's gratitude. You know, toys that
come to life. But then try to try to blurb
in and out, inside out as quickly as you can
and it gets a little bit tough. But that's what's
so great about Pixar movies is they have these high concept,
crazy stuff going on. And Pixar has had some stumbles recently.
You know, light Year didn't do well and l e

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O kind of flopped last year. But this is kind
of going back to the original idea well, even though
it does kind of have that steal that sort of
plot point from Avatar. But I mean, it's a cute movie,
it really is, and it does seem at times derivative
from some other Pixar movies, but that's because they've there
been one like thirty or forty of them by now there's.

Speaker 5 (01:31:32):
A lot they have made a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:31:34):
Now what do you know about the And I know
this is geek stuff that it's not about content of
the film, which looks visually stunning, but over that window
of time Kevin Carr, by the way, so over Gecko
on Substack with Sterling on the big when talking about
this new Pixar movie called Hoppers, the visual is amazing.
And when they first started doing stuff, we were all
blown away then, but they've come a long way. How

(01:31:56):
much different drastically and visually do you think it isn't
in what makes it's so much more special.

Speaker 5 (01:32:01):
I mean, it's just technology.

Speaker 18 (01:32:02):
I guess, well, yeah, it's it's technology, and you build
upon other technology and you get better processing and better
computers and different techniques and better emulation processes. I mean,
I've had interesting I had had real interesting conversations and
interviews with some of the people who work in Pixar.
I had the woman I think she I don't think
she directs this one, but she's heavily involved in this one.

(01:32:24):
And I talked to her way back when she was
working on It's something early. It may have it may
have been Mowana, which is a Disney one rather than Pixar,
but her entire job was to figure out how to
represent water, and we had a whole conversation about that.
But they have people, they have dozens of people just
figuring out how to make fur look like fur, and

(01:32:46):
how to make the sunlight come through it, and how
to make wind move in a natural, chaotic sense. And
it's the science and math and artistry is beyond me.
But they've got scores of people doing that, and that's
that's where the nuance comes in. They've gotten to the
point where they can fully animate everything. It's just it's

(01:33:08):
getting more and more realistic without crossing into that on
Canny Valley, because again, you still have humans. You don't
want them to look too human because they look weird,
and so they still got to look cartoonish. So there's
a lot of stuff that goes on behind the screens
in these kind of movies.

Speaker 1 (01:33:24):
How much faster with technology do you think, because I
mean you think back to Disney and all the stuff
from the early days, some of which now is no
longer going to be like it's you know, bit by
bit the trademark or service marks are going away. That's
why we've seen some bastardization of some stuff that's been made.

Speaker 18 (01:33:39):
But like the public domain stuff like Screamboat Willie and
stuff like.

Speaker 5 (01:33:43):
That windy food movie, Boding Honey and the Man. Yeah,
I love that. But they used to draw this.

Speaker 1 (01:33:54):
There were animators like rooms and rooms of them with
like pencils and ink and stuff. Now it's obviously, uh
technology and people behind it with computers.

Speaker 19 (01:34:05):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (01:34:05):
How much do we know AI in the future of that?
I hate to say, and I know everything much like
AI AI, everything is AI. But that has to play
into this somehow down the line, if not currently.

Speaker 18 (01:34:15):
Yeah, well yes and no. I mean it's real dicey
for these these companies because you know, Pixar does not
want to dip into the AI pool because it would
be seen as a slap in the face to all
the people that work there. I think a lot of
and you've got to really kind of parse AI versus
what it is, what it's used for, what people use

(01:34:37):
it for, and how they use it, and whether some
people want to use it or never use it. I mean,
there's a there's a lot of discussion. I know you've
had AI people on before, but I don't think there's
going to be anything AI in a Pixar movie anytime soon,
because Pixar has built itself on the human element of animation.
And even then AI is used as a g with

(01:35:00):
Kitchie type thing of you going on Facebook and saying,
do an AI portrait of me? Or you want to
do something. I want to see a dog riding an eagle,
you know, something like that. But that's that's disposable, that's
that's there's no market for something like that. You know,
like there's an Ohio lottery ad running around. It's clearly AI,
and okay, it's the lottery. But like movies like The

(01:35:26):
Bad Guys too. Do you remember that movie that came
out a couple months ago. Yeah, that one and other
ones that they're starting to do. They're starting to put
notices on those that say this is not to be
absorbed by AI and put into their database. We prohibit
that because there is a huge fight coming, especially in

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animation and in Hollywood where AI. Because the way AI
works is it digests all this other stuff and then
kicks it back out and makes it and uses the style,
but there's no royalty payment or no or real credit
given to what it.

Speaker 7 (01:36:04):
Was trained on.

Speaker 1 (01:36:05):
I see, and I've talked to experts on that. And
I don't mean interrupt, but this is the thing that
I can't process. If you and I went into a
room and took other people's work and regurgitated it and
put our thumbprint on it.

Speaker 5 (01:36:18):
We could be sued.

Speaker 1 (01:36:19):
But the AI does that, and people go, well, you
know it's all out there.

Speaker 18 (01:36:24):
Yeah, well there's a difference, and that's why I think
why they're putting those stamps on it. And we talked
about this a little bit with that that that roof
type rooftop fight with Brad Pitton Tom Cruise. Yeah, and
there's like one with Fanos fighting Darth Vader. Part of those.
You're getting those and they look cool, but there's no
story behind them, so you cannot make a movie based

(01:36:46):
on that. And they're they're alreadys trying to put safeguards
in and there are people trying to use AI to
regurgitate scripts, and I imagine you could probably get an
AI to regurgitate a you know, like something really cheesy,
like a like a Hallmark holity. There's something that follows
that exact formula, but you're not going to get a
Pixar movie out of it because there's a lot of

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creativity and that sort of flash of genius that AI
isn't even trained to do. They're just, as I understand it, AI,
it's a garbage in garbage at type thing. They can
only do what they've been taught.

Speaker 1 (01:37:19):
Yeah, and that really is the case in Pixar certainly
is not garbage, that's for sure. Even though you know
a couple of those, like you said, weren't exactly as
popular as they had been.

Speaker 5 (01:37:27):
So do you like this?

Speaker 1 (01:37:28):
I mean, if you've got kids, this is one they're
probably it's hard to find a movie that kids don't like,
like this.

Speaker 18 (01:37:33):
Trying to figure routine right now. So yeah, they're no
longer a little one.

Speaker 5 (01:37:37):
They're not yours.

Speaker 1 (01:37:38):
But I mean, when you see this, do you know,
because like when they were little, did you to ever
take them to an animated feature that they were like,
well this sucks, dad, let's go.

Speaker 18 (01:37:47):
Well, they've been the ones they liked more than others.
Pixars the the key with Pixars. Pixar always does stuff
that's cute and vibrant and entertaining that kids are going
to like, even the High even something like which has
a lot of adult themes and ideas in it. And
why I say adult themes, I don't mean like X
ray and I'm just talking about like grown yeah. Yeah,

(01:38:08):
but then it still has the dog that talks you
know what I mean, and which was named Kevin. The
bird was named Kevin.

Speaker 5 (01:38:15):
That's right up.

Speaker 18 (01:38:17):
So that's what Pixar is really good at. That's kind
of where they're masks ll at, where they can do
the cute stuff that gets the little kids engaged, but
it also has the story elements that the adults like
and so in terms of Hoppers, it's cute forest creatures
doing funny things. So yeah, kids are gonna like it, right,
but adults can appreciate it because it goes deeper into

(01:38:38):
that and it's a deeper cut, and that's what makes
a really good movie. Uh, even though at times this
does at certain times it kind of feels like it's
replaying some of Pixar's greatest hits. But like I said,
they've done a couple dozen movies, so you're gonna you're
gonna try the name ground again.

Speaker 2 (01:38:56):
Ye.

Speaker 5 (01:38:56):
Yeah, I would think that's the case.

Speaker 1 (01:38:57):
Talking to Kevin Carr by the way, sober Gecko and
substances where you can fine, he'll pop int your mailbox.
He's had this long series. I think it's The Rabbit,
right or something like that. That's then the.

Speaker 18 (01:39:06):
Yeah, that's a that's a novella that I had been
eching out over the week.

Speaker 5 (01:39:11):
Which is great.

Speaker 1 (01:39:11):
You just sort of here's a little bit, here's a
little bit, here's a little bit more. That's good marketing.
I like the way that works. Yeah, all right, so
Hopper sounds like it might be something now, and I
know I don't some of this you've seen maybe some
you have it. Uh there have been a multitude of
hockey movies lately, and I know there's another new one
that just came out this weekend or at least maybe
streaming called Young Blood. And there's also another Frankenstein or

(01:39:34):
Bride the Bride, which is another the Bride of.

Speaker 5 (01:39:37):
Frankenstein Bride an exclamation mark it does. It's very exciting.

Speaker 1 (01:39:41):
Uh So it's just odd that we have this window
of time where I can't recall when there were, oh,
there's a couple of hockey movies. Here, here's a and
I know there've been a variety of Frankenstein type films,
but you know the Guermo del Toro thing, which I
thought was cool.

Speaker 5 (01:39:54):
Now this is the Bride.

Speaker 1 (01:39:55):
I mean, it just seems like a, here's some hockey movies,
here's some monster movies.

Speaker 5 (01:39:59):
Very od.

Speaker 19 (01:40:00):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 18 (01:40:02):
I don't know if Young bloods and theaters. But of
course I'm assuming that's a remake of Blood from the eighties.

Speaker 1 (01:40:07):
Yeah, jack that Yeah, he's like he's a dagging kid.

Speaker 5 (01:40:11):
He's an Ohio guy rob Law movie. Yeah, that's true.
I think.

Speaker 1 (01:40:14):
So So there you go, Rush Jackson and you were
having a mind meld.

Speaker 18 (01:40:18):
Kevin, there we are. Yeah, you know, I got that
Bulkan strategy going on.

Speaker 5 (01:40:22):
But you know, The Bride.

Speaker 18 (01:40:23):
What's interesting. I've not seen The Bride. I'm very curious
about it. I understand it's very chaotic and it's not
for everyone. I think it's I think it's great that
like Maggie Jillenhall, who the actress Maggie Jillenhal directs that. Yeah,
and I like the fact that she's swinging for the
fences and it's so completely wholly different than her last movie,

(01:40:44):
which was this sort of this relationship drama with Olivia Coleman.
I can't remember the name of it. Yeah, Oh, I
love Lybia Coleman. But this one's just kind of off
the charts in terms of craziness. But also I've heard
it's kind of like so crazy it doesn't quite give
you necessarily what you want. But you know, it's not

(01:41:05):
a straight up redew of the Bride of Frankenstein, and
it's certainly not a redew of the Bride, which would
start staying in Jennifer Beals back in what nineteen eighty six? Yeah,
but I mean I love the if Frankenstein is such
as it's such a it can be done in so

(01:41:26):
many different ways. It is. It's that kind of movie
that you can keep redoing it, and you can do
the original kind of you know, one to one comparison
of what was written in eighteen eighteen, or you can
do a modern remake of it, and you can do
and you can really you can delve deep into some
of the concepts in there. I mean, Mary Shelley was
it's a genius piece of work. If you've not read it,

(01:41:47):
it's very flowery a little bit. Yeah, I mean so,
I mean it's almost poetic in a lot of ways.
But it's a fantastic book too, which rarely is given
the actual treatment of the book. Think everyone kind of
diverts to the Boris Karloff, the James Wayal film from
nineteen thirty one.

Speaker 1 (01:42:07):
Yeah, well, you know what's interesting. And I just just
searched on this, and you would know better than I would.
So I don't know if this is legit or not.
I just want I asked how many Frankenstein movies have
been made? Sixty five, it says, and they say about
forty of them. Depending on how you look at it
would qualify, you know, if you're like being real, I
guess serious about limiting access.

Speaker 18 (01:42:26):
Yeah, I mean like the actual Frankenstein's story. But I mean,
you know there's a been. I mean does that include
young Frankenstein and then does that include like Ghost of
Frankenstein and Son of Frankenstein.

Speaker 1 (01:42:37):
See, I've got questions. Now you're answers and you're giving
me more questions.

Speaker 5 (01:42:41):
That's not helpful. That's not how we're supposed to work.

Speaker 18 (01:42:45):
But Frankenstein shows up just in just in the universal
running he shows up like six times. I mean, what Frankenstein,
Bride of Frankenstein, Son of Frankenstein, Ghost of Frankenstein. Then
he shows up and franklyntein meets the wolfsman Frankenstein, House
of Dracula, House of Frankenstein. And do you count the

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monsters as a as a TV because that's.

Speaker 5 (01:43:07):
A Franken Frankenstein too.

Speaker 7 (01:43:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:43:09):
See, I don't even know. So what qualifies just general?

Speaker 1 (01:43:12):
Is it like creatures that have been pieced back together
counts as a Frankenstein even if you don't give it
a Frankenstein name.

Speaker 5 (01:43:18):
I don't know what the rules are.

Speaker 18 (01:43:19):
I would say if you just say a straight up
Frankenstein movie it involves the creator and a monster.

Speaker 7 (01:43:24):
Of some sort.

Speaker 18 (01:43:25):
Okay, but I mean, you you there's a lot of
stuff that that is that that is its own frank
It's like there's so many versions of Pigmalion. You got
you know, my fair Lady, you got pretty Woman, and
and so you know, I'm trying to think of a
good example of a you know, there's a lot of
stories that are Frankenstein's stories where somebody makes that a

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product of their own creation comes back and bites him
in the tail.

Speaker 5 (01:43:50):
Is it wrong for me to say that I think
that the bride? Uh? Is she somehow kind of dothy
hot to me?

Speaker 10 (01:43:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 18 (01:43:58):
You know, I get that. I mean Jesse Buckley's hot
because she's probably gonna win the Oscar for Hamnet, which is.

Speaker 5 (01:44:04):
A very great Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:44:06):
And for those who don't know, because we're about out
of time, that's that's basically a story of Shakespeare and
how he put together one of his stories.

Speaker 18 (01:44:12):
Well, yeah, because it's it's based on the death of
his son, right, yeah, and that's that's sort of the
tragedy is what spawned Hamlet, you know what some people
would consider his greatest play.

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Speaker 5 (01:46:33):
Hope you're doing all right. We covered a lot of
ground today.

Speaker 1 (01:46:36):
I always love the conversation just because I am an idiot.
Dumb things as an adult listen regularly, I say dumb
things from time to time. You talk for three four
hours at a time and see if you can remember
what you're saying, let alone keep it straight all the time.
It's difficult on my best of days. A kid, I

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mean next level right. And I mentioned this because most
of us, if you've had kids, you know they do
dumb things. And you were probably a child at once yourself,
and usually it's how it works, and you may have
done something odd, ridiculous or strange or otherwise in general.

(01:47:21):
And the headline the other day, if somebody send me this,
so thank you, I think it was a Calvin from
the West Sides. All it said, not the West End
where FC Cincinnati plays later the whole nother thing. I
think that's a seven o'clock tip kick a three year
old kid. Three year old boy stuck inside claw machine
just a couple of weeks after a toddler was rescued

(01:47:44):
from the same game. So one of the claw machines
that you just pump money in like crazy. You either
get tickets or hope to get a stuffed animal or
some type of toy or whatever junk out of it.
I mean that in the nicest the way. It's always
high end chotski, you know that, And this happens a lot.
And I would imagine rescue a first responder like you know, Uh,

(01:48:06):
probably get these calls on occasion. I know the er
gets these calls on occasion where kids get stuck inside
something or have hurt themselves in a strange or unusual way.
And it even happens to us adults. When I worked
at the put putt golfing games, I don't remember anyone
getting stuck inside the claw machine, but it was much smaller.

(01:48:27):
There were small toys, small stuffed animals, don't you know.
I wouldn't have imagined you'd have to be an infant
to get up in there. You see people try to
reach their arms up. I'm wondering if you've had a
kid stuck on a claw machine or what other type
of thing your kid has been stuck in, or maybe
you got stuck in, or how you hurt yourself. That
could be traumatizing, to say the least. Five one, three, seven, four, nine,

(01:48:49):
seven thousand, eight hundred the big one. School teachers see
it all the time. There was a kid, I think
it was in my elementary school times, or maybe middle
school whenever, if it was you first started to get lockers.

Speaker 5 (01:49:01):
And I remember there was a kid.

Speaker 1 (01:49:03):
I don't know if he got himself stuck in the
locker or if he was stuffed into a locker, which
may bring back like horrible bad feelings memories and flashbacks
for some I may have been picked on and made
fun of as a kid, but never stuffed into a locker.
But that kid got stuck. I don't think they called
for medics, but it's one of those things that happened.

(01:49:24):
Wondering what you've dealt with or otherwise and odd injury situations.
And I was just talking to Sean McMahon about this
off the air. As a kid in elementary school, I
remember with some bodies of mine walking home from school.
It's probably six or seven blocks, a few blocks away
from me J Brown Elementary School. I'm walking backwards, sort
of half jogging, I guess, walking quickly, talking to these girls.

(01:49:47):
Some buddies of mine with me were all doing the
same thing. And then I go to turn around and
continue walking forward rather than backwards, and I turned right
around into a steel post for like a stop sign
or a a street sign of some sort, and it
was just embarrassing as all get out. And then I
ended up having a crease on like part of my

(01:50:09):
forehead and down my face, which lasted a few days,
and it came with a story that now I get
to share with you here, so I guess it was
worth it over time, but embarrassing, to say the least.
There was no like, hey girl, how cool am I?
It was Oh, look, I can't walk and talk at
the same time. Look out for the signpost. So I'm
just wondering what you've dealt with as a kid or otherwise.

(01:50:32):
I just don't First of all, the claw machine thing
is weird to me because I just find it hard
to process that it would have happened more than once,
and probably now the machine's a nuisance and a liability.
I don't know how insurance works with that, but that's
probably somewhat troubling. And maybe you'd want to keep track
of your kid in this situation. But kids get stuck
in stuff all the time, whether it's like the stuff

(01:50:54):
along like steps going up or down, you know, and
then in the rail that'll happen. I remember there was
a kid just like in Christmas story got his tongue
stuck when we were kids. So it may have been
like a fence like post or something like a chain
link fence. It was one of those where an older
kid that you can't do that, and then the kid

(01:51:16):
did it, and then it may or may not have
been me. I can either confirm her tonight on know
nothing about it, but then you try not to rip
your tongue off in that type of situation. Five went three, seven, four, nine, seven,
eight hundred, The Big One. Sean McMahon was producing the show.
Mister McMahon, he was talking off there you had some
other type of issue where you nearly cost your self

(01:51:37):
serious harm or other type of problem.

Speaker 3 (01:51:39):
Yeah, are you referring to the the lawnmower incident I
was telling you about. Well, there was that in a
door or something, right, Yeah, a couple of stories here.

Speaker 5 (01:51:46):
I'll try to keep him quick.

Speaker 3 (01:51:49):
But when I used to do I used to do
landscaping back during COVID twenty twenty good gick.

Speaker 5 (01:51:54):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 3 (01:51:55):
It was a little stressful, admittedly, and part of that
was because I was cutting, you know, grass hills over
on the west side of town, and it's pretty hilly,
you know, on the far west side out in the Cleaves,
Miami Town area. So we were at this one house
and there was a fence line along the side of
this house that kind of cut off where the backyard was,

(01:52:15):
and there was a hill and that hill sort of
had like a valley to it, I guess is the
best way to describe it. So there was you know,
the left side would go down, the right side went down.
They met in the valley, and I was going down
the less steep side, tried to go back up the
steeper side, and then my mower started sliding down back
down the hill because it was still kind of muddy,

(01:52:36):
and then it got pinned against the fence line and
I had to look at my boss and be like, hey,
my mower stuck.

Speaker 5 (01:52:43):
I can't gout. He's like, you, I told you not
to do that, and I was like, I'm sorry I did.

Speaker 3 (01:52:47):
I thought I could get out of it, and you know,
he had to go grab one of my other coworkers
and you know, we had to like pull it out
of this hill and he's like, all right, leave that
area alone, Like what does we wag it?

Speaker 5 (01:52:57):
Okay, all right, my bed. So it's good.

Speaker 1 (01:53:00):
I've done the weed whacking when I was in mower
broke in the past, and I'm like, well, I better
I can't let this keep growing. I better get the
weed whacker out. I don't want to be the guy
with that yard, right, But not getting stuck in that
situation that that could be dangerous too, if you're you're
sliding around and it's still engaged. Yeah, that's one of
those where people panic and then really bad things.

Speaker 7 (01:53:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:53:18):
And it was one of those big, uh sort of
industrial mowers too.

Speaker 5 (01:53:21):
Those are fun. Yeah, they can do bad, bad things fast.

Speaker 6 (01:53:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:53:25):
That's why I didn't like cutting on hills with those,
like they're they're really they'd be great for like my
parents yard, which is really flat and there's small hills,
but you could still cut it with that. But you know, yeah,
when you start to slide down the hill with this
thousand pound mower and you like you can't, you don't
have any control over it, it gets a little sketchy and
uh yeah, it kind of creeped me out. And I
was like, all right, I'm staying away from any hill

(01:53:45):
as much as I can. So I saw from that
point on, I looked at other miler coverers like, hey,
I can't do this, can get you do it for me?

Speaker 5 (01:53:54):
Well, you do the backyard where you know your limitations.

Speaker 1 (01:53:57):
Yeah yeah, I mean you know your spot you got
like I stick this, I'm not going to do it.

Speaker 5 (01:54:01):
Yeah, that's all right.

Speaker 1 (01:54:02):
Now you mentioned something else too, because I was talking
about like being dumb and hurting yourself. I don't know,
I don't know if you clawed climbed into a claw
machine or not. Probably not. I don't know how many
people do that. But you mentioned something else that is
in relation to just like me turning around and walking
into a sign, which is pretty swift.

Speaker 3 (01:54:18):
Oh god, this is one of my best college stories,
if not my best. I bounce back and forth, but
this one is one of the two that I have
that's really good.

Speaker 5 (01:54:26):
And basically, I was talking to a teacher.

Speaker 3 (01:54:28):
I was in a room that was very rectangular shaped,
but there was one corner of the room where the
door was, and that part of the wall kind of
jutted out into the room, and so it kind of
created this corner that stuck out. So I was walking
backwards talking to my teacher and I was like okay, bye,
turned around and bam, there was the corner right there,
I spacked myself right above the left eyebrow and I

(01:54:51):
was like, oh that hurt. I turned around and it
was kind of embarrassed, like, oh, nobody saw that. And
then I walked out the door and I was like, man,
that actually hurt. I like, dad, my hand on my
forehead and I'm like, oh, that's a little bit of blood, okay,
And then I dabbed it again. I was like, oh,
there's more blood, and I was like, that's not busted
wide open.

Speaker 18 (01:55:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:55:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:55:07):
I went into the bathroom.

Speaker 3 (01:55:08):
When I was I looked and I was like, oh,
there's there's a distinctive, like one inch laceration above my
left eyebrow.

Speaker 5 (01:55:14):
And then I like looked in the mirror and.

Speaker 7 (01:55:15):
I was like wait a minute.

Speaker 3 (01:55:16):
And then I pulled it apart and I was like, oh, no,
that's like a deep cut.

Speaker 5 (01:55:21):
And I had to I had to go in. I
had to like start calling people.

Speaker 3 (01:55:24):
So for whatever reason, my first instinct was I gotta
call my boss, who was the video director at UC
for the UC football team.

Speaker 5 (01:55:30):
I was like, I don't know why that's the first
place I can go.

Speaker 3 (01:55:33):
It's like they gotta have medkids there or something call
to him and he's like, all right, whatever you do,
don't show me.

Speaker 5 (01:55:37):
It's like, I don't do well with blood, please do
not show me.

Speaker 3 (01:55:39):
And I was like, all right, we go in can't
find a med kid or anything like that, and uh,
I call my parents. My parents like, okay, just try
to figure it out. I went down to like the
third floor of the athletic building. They gave me a
butterfly stitch, which didn't last very long. I was having
problems with my computer and then I was I was
messing with it, and I forgot to mention this part
to you. So the butterfly stich kind of held it

(01:56:00):
together for a little bit. And I'm messing with my computer.
I'm trying to pull something out of the usbst the
the us B ports on the side of the computer,
and I end up smacking the top of the laptop
back into where I had just cut my head open
and reopened the wound nice.

Speaker 5 (01:56:15):
And I was like, oh great, that's a wonderful.

Speaker 3 (01:56:17):
So I looked at the it people, I was like,
I gotta go and go to the hospital.

Speaker 5 (01:56:21):
Get a call from my boss.

Speaker 3 (01:56:22):
He's like, hey, the head trainer you see football, who's
name Aaron. I'm blanking on his last name. I'm sorry, Aaron,
but my boss is like, hey, go downstairs the training room.
Aaron will fix you up and you'll be fine. And
I remember I walked in. There's all these athletes around
and I'm just like, hey, I've got this paper towel
like if a wall. I was like, don't mind meet

(01:56:44):
you know, like they're getting their feet taped up and
they've got like, you know, real injuries, and I'm just
like some some dingis who walked into the corner of
a of a door, of a wall and you know,
split my head open. I walk into Aaron's office, the
head trainer, and he's like, how did this happen? I
explained the whole story, and he's like, all right, fixes
me up. And he's like, if you do anything done
like this ever again, he's like, just call me or

(01:57:04):
just come here, like I'll fix you.

Speaker 1 (01:57:06):
Okay, that's pretty good. A little needle and thread, duct
tape or maybe super glue. But see, and then you
you effectively you saved yourself what like.

Speaker 3 (01:57:14):
A hospital real trip to the hospital, and potentially some
insurance money for my parents or you know, whatever the case.

Speaker 5 (01:57:20):
Because I was like eighteen at the time.

Speaker 1 (01:57:22):
See that's adapting an overcoming to the problem.

Speaker 5 (01:57:25):
That's good, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:57:26):
And see the thing with the kids after you get
to be a toddler's age and beyond that, I think
college age is probably when you might be trying to
climb into things like a claw machine and then maybe
avoiding a door or wall.

Speaker 5 (01:57:37):
But that's just me.

Speaker 3 (01:57:39):
I've seen I've seen some fun stuff when I was
in college. We all, I think most of us have.
But that's exactly right. Yeah, it is a lot to
see in a lot of good times. Yeah, well, I'm
glad you survived and you get like a cool story
about your you know scar well or a scar on
your head.

Speaker 5 (01:57:53):
I mean, you know, it's one of those things.

Speaker 1 (01:57:54):
And no trauma like the kid who might like never
be able to go to like a chuck e cheese Again.
Within the claw machine there is mister McMahon keeping us
on time, on track, and of course sharing his classic
story of bonehead moves, which we all have our share.
A little earlier, by the way, I talked to Pat Brennan.

Speaker 5 (01:58:12):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:58:13):
By the way, Sean, I want to make sure I
said that all the think too. Yeah, Pat Brennan covers
the Reds for The Inquirer and had him on the
line from Goodyear earlier. We're talking about Hunter Green. Of course,
now Andrew Rabbit's got the caality he'll he'll be opening
Day Starter, which is coming up fast here downtown by
the River, Great American Ballpark, and here on the Big One.

(01:58:34):
Of course, talked about a whole bunch of other stuff.
The podcast will be up later, but one of the
other things that came up was about roster spots and
how much room there is and who's making inroads to
somehow make the team, whether like Low or anybody else.
Here's what Pat Brennan had to say earlier here with
me on the Big One.

Speaker 2 (01:58:50):
Oh man, I mean it's the you know, I think
the guys that are interesting.

Speaker 7 (01:58:56):
To look at right now, are.

Speaker 2 (01:59:00):
You know I'll do like pictures versus position players. First,
you know, Graham Ashcraft is a is one of your
leverage relievers, and he's gotten hit pretty hard so far
this spring. And you know, Andrew Abbitt got hit somewhat
hard against the Giants the other day.

Speaker 7 (01:59:19):
But you know it was nice to hear him come.

Speaker 2 (01:59:22):
Out afterwards and say, like, well, I'm done experimenting. I'm
done tinkering.

Speaker 12 (01:59:27):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:59:27):
I'm going to get down to the business of pitching
the way I would in the regular season, at least
to the extent that he's conditioned for that at this point.
So you knew that, you know, Andrew was just working
on things which you expect at this point.

Speaker 7 (01:59:40):
Now we're two and a half weeks away from.

Speaker 2 (01:59:42):
Opening day, he can get down to business. I don't
get the sense that this was a situation, or this
has been a situation where Graham Ashcraft was tinkering. I
think it's just been a little bit of a a
little bit laborious forms. It's been hard for him so far,
and I think that was especially evident earlier this past

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week against Cuba, which was a team that was completely
and totally overmatched by by the Reds, but Graham had
trouble in that game. Look, I think he'll be fine,
But you just wonder breaking camp, if you know if

(02:00:22):
any of if anyone that you figure is sharpeet onto
this roster could potentially dig themselves a big enough hole
if they can't get out of it, at least for
to start the season on time, and then position player wise,
I think there are four spots available. Jose Travino is
clearly an undisputed lock for one of those, and then

(02:00:46):
you have JJ Blade, Dane Myers, who I also think
looks good right now, Nathaniel Lowe, who has an incredible story.
It's kind of happening in real time at camp right now.

Speaker 7 (02:00:57):
He's playing.

Speaker 1 (02:00:58):
How cool is that to watch, by the way, where
you see someone start to shine like him right now?

Speaker 2 (02:01:04):
Yeah, I mean it's great, and it's the most compelling
part of it is that, unbeknownst to us, his mother
passed away from a long battle with cancer on March fifth,
whatever day of the week that was last week. But
he played in that game against the Dodgers that day
and hit a home run and we didn't, none of
us do about that in the media corps until after

(02:01:25):
the fact, and we just spoke to Nate about it
this morning. So he's playing kind of to honor his
mom right now, and that's that's super admirable and interesting,
and he's gonna stay in camp. He's stayed in camp
and is going to stay in camp and try to
win a roster spot for himself. So and then you know,
look getting back to the big view of those four

(02:01:48):
available spots bench spots. Well, Benson has to be in
that conversation, and you know that's five players right there
that you would like to have on this team. But
the way I see it, there are only four spots
for those five names. And there might be other guys
that I'm over I'm overlooking at the moment, but.

Speaker 7 (02:02:09):
You know that.

Speaker 2 (02:02:11):
Those are the kinds of Blake Don We're just talking
about him. He's had a good camp. There are just
gonna be These guys are gonna do what the Reds
need them to do, which is force Terry Francona and
his staff to make really tough decisions.

Speaker 7 (02:02:27):
That's ultimately what you.

Speaker 1 (02:02:28):
Want difficult in that situation or exactly what you look
for this Pat Brnn and covering the Reds, So from
the Inquiry talking to me earlier from the desert and
Goodyear Reds and Diamondbacks getting at it shortly, David Armbrewster,
gonna get you teed up with the inside pitch. Tommy
Thraw the Cowboy with the call Good Show Today. Doctor
An Romaker on sleep issues. Doctor Glenn Door from Cedarville

(02:02:51):
University on the Iran situation. A whole lot of other
stuff going on. Good conversation, Kevin Carr. And here's a
little sound too that Ydy gave us. You know, mister
Abbott is now going to be the number one, at
least at the start of the season. He will get
opening days start. Here's what he had to say about
that earlier too.

Speaker 16 (02:03:08):
You know, I think it's awesome, you know, I I
don't take anything for granted. I'm honored to Representaincinnati and
let Dad, I know. It's being there and seeing how
big of a holiday and how big it celebrated. It's great,
you know, being having the chance with all the teammates,
with all the talent we having this team means a
lot to me too. Any one of those guys deserve it.
But I'm excited to take the ball and give it
my all.

Speaker 7 (02:03:28):
Your thoughts about the transition from last year this year
and how different it.

Speaker 5 (02:03:33):
Is, I mean, started started really at the bottom.

Speaker 16 (02:03:35):
It's hurt dur spring training, late start, you know, just
trying to get by, get through healthy, and then you know,
kind of turn it into a really my best one
so far. I mean, obviously build on it, learn from it,
and it's a new year. This year, so guys are
gonna have different approaches and be ready for you. So
you know we're changing as they are, and just super
excited to do that again.

Speaker 5 (02:03:55):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (02:03:55):
That is today's announcement and the comments about that from
a rabbit, he'll be your opening day starter coming up
here with the Reds with the Red Sox, but that's
a couple of weeks away. They take on the Diamondbacks
pre game straight ahead. You got a davitr Armbrewster with that,
as I mentioned in of course, Cowboy and Tommy Thrall
with the call. Thank you Sean McMahon. Keep me online

(02:04:17):
and on time, Alex. You get a bunch of other
good conversation today. Have a good week. I'll talk to
you soon.

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