The latest edition of 'The All-Star Panel' features Rugby Writer Phil Gifford and Rowena Duncum.
On this weekend's agenda: What's up with Leon MacDonald’s pay out? Do the All Blacks have a chance at Ellis Park on Sunday? And is now the right time for Lydia Ko to retire?
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the All Sport Breakfast podcast with Darcy
Waldgrave from News Talks b All Sport Breakfast All Star
Panel and.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Our All Star panel consists of my remote mister fild
good as good as gold?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
How are you? I'm good as gold? And what an
absolute pleasure it is and how lucky you are there
if somebody as wonderful as Rowena being prepared to go
on your show.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
And she's actually run through the rain, in the sleet,
in the hail, in bare feet to get all the
way here to be in studio, Rowena duncan welcome in not.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Quite bare feet. But honestly, I've misinterpreted the Auckland. Whether
it's a rooking mistake, Gars and Phil, Honestly I was
told when I got here, like when I went farming
in Taranaki, if you can't see the mountain, it's raining.
If you can see the mountain, it's going to rain.
Kind of like Auckland. If it's not raining, it's going
to rain. Always carry a raincoat. Lesson learned around deal
(01:05):
with being wet.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
And one thing Phil, you know me moving up from Canterbury,
what I love about it may rain intermittently, but it's
never cold, it's just war might be a wet and
warm which we like. Forget about this, We need to
be talking about sport. What are we doing wandering about? Okay,
come on, come on focus. Okay, first up, lads, gentleman,
now Phil Gifford, We start with rugby. Is it an
(01:26):
expensive mistake? Leo McDonald's payout. What I find interesting about
this is we don't know what his contract is. We
don't know the price of the payout, we don't know
where the payout come from. I find it difficult to
be even remotely upset by this because we just don't
know enough right exactly?
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Does I mean one of the things about Leo McDonald?
The whole thing is a complete mystery. And so was
it Leon's choice to leave? And if he did, with
that effect, how much money he gets if he gets
a payout and I presume that he does get some
sort of payout perhaps or was he in effect sacked
because gott Robertson told New Zealand Rugby officials that the
(02:06):
you know, that it wasn't working anymore. So there's the
speculation has actually kind of amused me, and I have
a lot of sympathy for journalists trying to sort of
pears through through it be.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
The only one film no one has sympathy for journalists.
What do you oh, that's right, you're a journalist.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
That's right exactly, And that's why. Look, who knows what
the deal is? Only in New Zealand Rugby and Scott
Robertson and Leo mcdoald and knowingly on McDonald from the
time he was a twenty one year old or twenty
I think when he first came to Canterbury from Marlborough.
I would suggest that he's not the sort of guy
that is going to shout it from the rooftops about
(02:44):
whatever happened to him, even if he feels badly done
by it, and say and neither's raised Robinson. So I
think this it's going to be an enduring mystery.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
And it's never going to come out in a book.
He's Ruina Dungeman, if you believe Phil Gifford, it's just
going to be I see when this first came across
that the problem with vacuums is they tend to get filled,
and they get filled with all sorts and that's the
way it is, is that we're never going to know
They've made it perfectly clear. It's none of your business.
Let's move on. Are we in that space now that
(03:14):
we can actually just leave it in the past.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Well, I know, I think everyone is very intrigued by
this because you know, it's pretty unprecedented, right, you know,
this is the job of a lifetime. We're five tests
and no one saw this coming. You know, this has
taken everyone by surprise. Of course, they're going to be
interested in it, and they're going to be interested for
a very long time.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
It's the nature of the beast, I suppose. So it's
still with rugby. Let's focus on I love that team,
you know, break off the rear vision mirror and forget
about that. Let's worry about what's right in front of us.
Phil Gifford, All Blacks Spring Box. Of course, they're playing
at their bogie ground of Allas Park. Three defeats in
four games at the hands of the All Blacks. And
(03:56):
you probably know this anyway, Phil, but readmission after their
time in the apartheid wilderness. First game back again, it
was at Alice Park against the All Blacks. What appen
in spring.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Exactly, mate. And it's weird because oddly enough, I've only
been to two Test matches at Ellis Park or it's
got some it's I think it's Emirates Stadium now, but
it'll always be alis Parker's.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Stop it next again. Are you going to be saying
Aliens for twiking and it's.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Don't buy into disgusting you consider yourself. Thank you, thank you, dars.
I've got a stingy's league now I've been. I've only
been to two games with Alice Parker, but they were
both very important games, the biggest one and the most
extraordinary test to the inventor. I was lucky enough to
be at the nineteen ninety five World Cup Final when
we lost an extra time with the drop gold of
(04:46):
Joel Stransky, and we also lost. I was at the
Test they played at the in nineteen ninety six when
for the first time in rugby history, and it remains
the only time because we haven't played a proper series
with them since. When the All Backs won a series
against South Africa because they won in Cape Town and
in that one at Lotus Versfeld in Victoria. Then they
(05:09):
go to Elis Park and lost. Thank god, the series
was already won. But Elis Park is the fierst place
to play. But I believe there are enough guys in
this all Black team and I applaud and I know
some people won't, but I definitely do applaud this lection
of Sam Kaine, who I think is one of the
outstanding people in New Zealand rugby as well as a
(05:31):
terrific rugby player. There are enough people in this all
Black team, I believe for whom playing the spring Box
won't go, oh my god, we're playing the Springbox. There's
a whole bunch of the backbone in this team that know.
And I would include the World Cup final in twenty
twenty three that the spring Box, despite bringing on the
Bomb squad at halftime, despite their size, despite their extraordinary reputation,
(05:54):
they are absolutely not unbeatable. And the fact that tap
is the All Blacks are two to one to lose
the game is kind of extraordinary to me because I think,
even if we don't want to, I think it will
be a much closer game than those predictions, than all
those odds set by our TV would suggest. I mean the.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
World Cup, the quarter final, the semi final, the final.
The spring Box won one point each game, absolutely, but
they still won. How you get it right? And they've
got our They've got us when it comes to World
Cup fixtures because in the finals they beat us, which
is horrible.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
But this isn't a World Cup, No it's not.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
And when you say Phil walk toward pressure, I'd say
run at it and tackle it. And that's what they're
going to do. They love this and all round nodding
when he mentioned Sam Caine.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Yeah, absolutely fantastic selection, so excited and you say the
world champions at the moment, but they're not unbeatable. I
mean they lost to Ireland by a point last month.
I was really surprised about the scoreline between their games
with Australia as well. I mean, absolutely don't underestimate them,
because you do that at your peril. But you know
everyone rises when they play the All Blacks. The All
(07:04):
Blacks are going to rise the week end or tomorrow
morning against the Springboks. It's going to be a fantastic encounter.
And you say two to one odds at the tab
is quite extraordinary. I say, that's maybe good shopping.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
I thought it's a good shopping film. We're just going
to wander off shortly. But here's is my good shopping.
All Blacks thirteen plus six dollars. I am so on it.
This is new still TB on the Small Breakfast with
the All Star Panel. Our panelists keep laughing at me,
stop it stop it.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Now travels COVID on the planes in a Burma.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
But it's the season of.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
The Sticks and.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
It's fourteen minutes to nine. All Star Panel in studio,
Rowena Duncan and Phil Gifford on the line that Phil,
are we still going up the Wars?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Oh dear the wires. Look, I've got to say I
was thinking about it before, Andy Wren. For us to
do the show today is that if there's a prize,
if it was possible to give a prize to fans,
you've got to give it to the WAS fans because
loyalty just goes well this year, it's sort of bordered
(08:21):
on lunacy, really, I mean to sell out when they
just lose, lose, lose, lose, lose. These lose it's just extraordinary,
So good on them, And I mean, jeez, I'm old
enough to remember the days when they did actually make finals.
But what the hell's happened this year? Who knows? But yeah,
go the Wars.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Look, it's a party and I've always said this about
the Warriors.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Row.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I don't follow the Warriors because I expect them to
win titles, because I actually think that I'll be long
in a retirement home before they win a title and
the people out there going, how dare you? But I
don't follow them because they're going to win. I'm not
at Manchester United to or a Manchester City jump on
the bandwagon. Follow them because they're my team and it
doesn't bother me when they lose. When they win, you
(09:06):
I get a little upset, But then the day it's
about following a team and the your boys, and that's
what it means to me. Am I insane.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Well have you met any Southern Stags fans, because one
would argue that in a very similar from nowhere up
the Stags remarkable. But look, you know, at the moment,
the Warriors don't really deserve to be talked about. You know,
they do this, They do this to us. I sat
in the studio Darcy and January last year and I said,
(09:35):
it's our year, and it very nearly was. And you
know I was lucky on that one. But that's what
the Warriors do. It's gonna be our year until it's not,
and then they have a couple of ordinary years and
then it's maybe gonna be our year again, until it's not,
and it's just rinse and repeat. But look, I'm old
enough to remember that very first game of the Warriors.
I wasn't there, I was too young, but I remember
(09:56):
sitting in front of the TV and watching it. So
I don't claim myself as a bandwagon fan, but the
Warriors bring something to the fans. To be able to
sell out like they do, like the South and Stags do.
Their crowd each week is remarkable, especially when they're playing Otago.
It's like it's a Stag's home game. You just get
amongst it, and it's so much more exciting than a
(10:16):
lot of other codes on offer.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
At the moment.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Sports support the team, not the result. And I was
in mcmillanav up on the hill in cash Mere with
my mate Greg and my brother drinking dB better on
that goes back abs although it is the sequences, and
the sequence goes like this, it's our year, this is
(10:41):
a must win game. We've still got a mathematical chance.
We're playing for our fans. Enough, let's go to a
real success and Lydia co Phil.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Whoa what a woman, what a golfer? What a sports person?
What appears to be I think one of the loveliest
people in sport. I've never actually had the pleasure of
meeting him, but I mean, I just think she's fantastic
and one of the things. Now we're all friends here
because we all know each other pretty well, so I
can say that when you've become a more mature person
(11:18):
like me, you have a memory of something and you think,
surely I must have got that wrong. That's just me
go and Gaga, you know. And I had a memory
quite seriously when I knew we were going to be
talking about Lydia Kay, I didn't memory. I think I
thought I didn't she playing in New Zealand Amateur Championship
when she was maybe in her first year at high school.
She was twelve or thirteen. So I looked it up. Now, yes,
(11:38):
I was wrong. She played in the New Zealand National
Amateur Championship when she was seven. That's one, two, three, four,
five sixty seven. She started playing golf when she was
five at the Tucklepona Golf Club. She was coached by
the same guy that coached through until she was a teenager.
She's been playing competitive championship golf till she was seven
(11:59):
years old, so that's twenty years. So getting back to it,
if she decides at before she turns thirty that it
might be time to have a life apart and away
from the golf course, then by god, nobody deserves that
more than a the UK.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
I think the way Rod that she's gone through the
joy of success and the depression around falling off that
lofty pedestal that she found herself on and then climbing
back up again, that says so much for her internal
spirit and her mental strength.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
You got a buy, oh absolutely, And look that even
just must be exhausting. She said twenty twenty three was
one of her worst years and it was really hard
to get back from that. And look she has and
she's been really consistent on when she wants to wrap
up her career, and that is absolutely her call. You know,
we don't know what it's like. It's remarkable that, as
Phil sees, she comes across as a really wonderful human
(12:57):
being because she hasn't been allowed to be a human
being as much as a gulf just machine. And I
think you know, if she wants a show it actually
having a bit more time with her friends, time with
her family and able to enjoy yourself without always having
golf at the back of her mind. Absolutely fair play
to it. And look, you know, in five weeks time,
(13:18):
if it's not working out for her and she's missing
the golf, she can always do a leon and a
raiser and just you know about hacks too.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Well, yeah, but she's not going to get a pay
it from anyone. She doesn't need it want like that,
you know.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
And look the.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Wonderful golfer, a wonderful human being, huge talent and most
importantly a great New Zealander and proud to have her
flying our flag globally in one of the world's biggest sports.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Oh listening to her at the Olympics, you know, saying
that the anthem coming through was just so emotional for
her because she's it's not on her Spotify playlist, she
doesn't hear it all the time, so it meant so
much to her.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
And as that's the anthem on this Spotify, you probably
do give it. That's enough, feel gift. Thanks very much
for your time. As always, you're as good as gold,
and thanks for making the efforts. Come on, I'll try
out now next time bringing umbrella. This is News Talks
ab IT seven away from nine.
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Builds for but is running. I'm enabling drunk For more
from the All Sport Breakfast with Darcy Watergrave. Listen live
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You're listening to the All Sport Breakfast podcast with Darcy
Waldgrave from News Talks b All Sport Breakfast All Star
Panel and.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Our All Star panel consists of my remote mister fild
good as good as gold?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
How are you? I'm good as gold? And what an
absolute pleasure it is and how lucky you are there
if somebody as wonderful as Rowena being prepared to go
on your show.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
And she's actually run through the rain, in the sleet,
in the hail, in bare feet to get all the
way here to be in studio, Rowena duncan welcome in not.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Quite bare feet. But honestly, I've misinterpreted the Auckland. Whether
it's a rooking mistake, Gars and Phil, Honestly I was
told when I got here, like when I went farming
in Taranaki, if you can't see the mountain, it's raining.
If you can see the mountain, it's going to rain.
Kind of like Auckland. If it's not raining, it's going
to rain. Always carry a raincoat. Lesson learned around deal
(01:05):
with being wet.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
And one thing Phil, you know me moving up from Canterbury,
what I love about it may rain intermittently, but it's
never cold, it's just war might be a wet and
warm which we like. Forget about this, We need to
be talking about sport. What are we doing wandering about? Okay,
come on, come on focus. Okay, first up, lads, gentleman,
now Phil Gifford, We start with rugby. Is it an
(01:26):
expensive mistake? Leo McDonald's payout. What I find interesting about
this is we don't know what his contract is. We
don't know the price of the payout, we don't know
where the payout come from. I find it difficult to
be even remotely upset by this because we just don't
know enough right exactly?
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Does I mean one of the things about Leo McDonald?
The whole thing is a complete mystery. And so was
it Leon's choice to leave? And if he did, with
that effect, how much money he gets if he gets
a payout and I presume that he does get some
sort of payout perhaps or was he in effect sacked
because gott Robertson told New Zealand Rugby officials that the
(02:06):
you know, that it wasn't working anymore. So there's the
speculation has actually kind of amused me, and I have
a lot of sympathy for journalists trying to sort of
pears through through it be.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
The only one film no one has sympathy for journalists.
What do you oh, that's right, you're a journalist.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
That's right exactly, And that's why. Look, who knows what
the deal is? Only in New Zealand Rugby and Scott
Robertson and Leo mcdoald and knowingly on McDonald from the
time he was a twenty one year old or twenty
I think when he first came to Canterbury from Marlborough.
I would suggest that he's not the sort of guy
that is going to shout it from the rooftops about
(02:44):
whatever happened to him, even if he feels badly done
by it, and say and neither's raised Robinson. So I
think this it's going to be an enduring mystery.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
And it's never going to come out in a book.
He's Ruina Dungeman, if you believe Phil Gifford, it's just
going to be I see when this first came across
that the problem with vacuums is they tend to get filled,
and they get filled with all sorts and that's the
way it is, is that we're never going to know
They've made it perfectly clear. It's none of your business.
Let's move on. Are we in that space now that
(03:14):
we can actually just leave it in the past.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Well, I know, I think everyone is very intrigued by
this because you know, it's pretty unprecedented, right, you know,
this is the job of a lifetime. We're five tests
and no one saw this coming. You know, this has
taken everyone by surprise. Of course, they're going to be
interested in it, and they're going to be interested for
a very long time.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
It's the nature of the beast, I suppose. So it's
still with rugby. Let's focus on I love that team,
you know, break off the rear vision mirror and forget
about that. Let's worry about what's right in front of us.
Phil Gifford, All Blacks Spring Box. Of course, they're playing
at their bogie ground of Allas Park. Three defeats in
four games at the hands of the All Blacks. And
(03:56):
you probably know this anyway, Phil, but readmission after their
time in the apartheid wilderness. First game back again, it
was at Alice Park against the All Blacks. What appen
in spring.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Exactly, mate. And it's weird because oddly enough, I've only
been to two Test matches at Ellis Park or it's
got some it's I think it's Emirates Stadium now, but
it'll always be alis Parker's.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Stop it next again. Are you going to be saying
Aliens for twiking and it's.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Don't buy into disgusting you consider yourself. Thank you, thank you, dars.
I've got a stingy's league now I've been. I've only
been to two games with Alice Parker, but they were
both very important games, the biggest one and the most
extraordinary test to the inventor. I was lucky enough to
be at the nineteen ninety five World Cup Final when
we lost an extra time with the drop gold of
(04:46):
Joel Stransky, and we also lost. I was at the
Test they played at the in nineteen ninety six when
for the first time in rugby history, and it remains
the only time because we haven't played a proper series
with them since. When the All Backs won a series
against South Africa because they won in Cape Town and
in that one at Lotus Versfeld in Victoria. Then they
(05:09):
go to Elis Park and lost. Thank god, the series
was already won. But Elis Park is the fierst place
to play. But I believe there are enough guys in
this all Black team and I applaud and I know
some people won't, but I definitely do applaud this lection
of Sam Kaine, who I think is one of the
outstanding people in New Zealand rugby as well as a
(05:31):
terrific rugby player. There are enough people in this all
Black team, I believe for whom playing the spring Box
won't go, oh my god, we're playing the Springbox. There's
a whole bunch of the backbone in this team that know.
And I would include the World Cup final in twenty
twenty three that the spring Box, despite bringing on the
Bomb squad at halftime, despite their size, despite their extraordinary reputation,
(05:54):
they are absolutely not unbeatable. And the fact that tap
is the All Blacks are two to one to lose
the game is kind of extraordinary to me because I think,
even if we don't want to, I think it will
be a much closer game than those predictions, than all
those odds set by our TV would suggest. I mean the.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
World Cup, the quarter final, the semi final, the final.
The spring Box won one point each game, absolutely, but
they still won. How you get it right? And they've
got our They've got us when it comes to World
Cup fixtures because in the finals they beat us, which
is horrible.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
But this isn't a World Cup, No it's not.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
And when you say Phil walk toward pressure, I'd say
run at it and tackle it. And that's what they're
going to do. They love this and all round nodding
when he mentioned Sam Caine.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Yeah, absolutely fantastic selection, so excited and you say the
world champions at the moment, but they're not unbeatable. I
mean they lost to Ireland by a point last month.
I was really surprised about the scoreline between their games
with Australia as well. I mean, absolutely don't underestimate them,
because you do that at your peril. But you know
everyone rises when they play the All Blacks. The All
(07:04):
Blacks are going to rise the week end or tomorrow
morning against the Springboks. It's going to be a fantastic encounter.
And you say two to one odds at the tab
is quite extraordinary. I say, that's maybe good shopping.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
I thought it's a good shopping film. We're just going
to wander off shortly. But here's is my good shopping.
All Blacks thirteen plus six dollars. I am so on it.
This is new still TB on the Small Breakfast with
the All Star Panel. Our panelists keep laughing at me,
stop it stop it.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Now travels COVID on the planes in a Burma.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
But it's the season of.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
The Sticks and.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
It's fourteen minutes to nine. All Star Panel in studio,
Rowena Duncan and Phil Gifford on the line that Phil,
are we still going up the Wars?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Oh dear the wires. Look, I've got to say I
was thinking about it before, Andy Wren. For us to
do the show today is that if there's a prize,
if it was possible to give a prize to fans,
you've got to give it to the WAS fans because
loyalty just goes well this year, it's sort of bordered
(08:21):
on lunacy, really, I mean to sell out when they
just lose, lose, lose, lose, lose. These lose it's just extraordinary,
So good on them, And I mean, jeez, I'm old
enough to remember the days when they did actually make finals.
But what the hell's happened this year? Who knows? But yeah,
go the Wars.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Look, it's a party and I've always said this about
the Warriors.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Row.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I don't follow the Warriors because I expect them to
win titles, because I actually think that I'll be long
in a retirement home before they win a title and
the people out there going, how dare you? But I
don't follow them because they're going to win. I'm not
at Manchester United to or a Manchester City jump on
the bandwagon. Follow them because they're my team and it
doesn't bother me when they lose. When they win, you
(09:06):
I get a little upset, But then the day it's
about following a team and the your boys, and that's
what it means to me. Am I insane.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Well have you met any Southern Stags fans, because one
would argue that in a very similar from nowhere up
the Stags remarkable. But look, you know, at the moment,
the Warriors don't really deserve to be talked about. You know,
they do this, They do this to us. I sat
in the studio Darcy and January last year and I said,
(09:35):
it's our year, and it very nearly was. And you
know I was lucky on that one. But that's what
the Warriors do. It's gonna be our year until it's not,
and then they have a couple of ordinary years and
then it's maybe gonna be our year again, until it's not,
and it's just rinse and repeat. But look, I'm old
enough to remember that very first game of the Warriors.
I wasn't there, I was too young, but I remember
(09:56):
sitting in front of the TV and watching it. So
I don't claim myself as a bandwagon fan, but the
Warriors bring something to the fans. To be able to
sell out like they do, like the South and Stags do.
Their crowd each week is remarkable, especially when they're playing Otago.
It's like it's a Stag's home game. You just get
amongst it, and it's so much more exciting than a
(10:16):
lot of other codes on offer.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
At the moment.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Sports support the team, not the result. And I was
in mcmillanav up on the hill in cash Mere with
my mate Greg and my brother drinking dB better on
that goes back abs although it is the sequences, and
the sequence goes like this, it's our year, this is
(10:41):
a must win game. We've still got a mathematical chance.
We're playing for our fans. Enough, let's go to a
real success and Lydia co Phil.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Whoa what a woman, what a golfer? What a sports person?
What appears to be I think one of the loveliest
people in sport. I've never actually had the pleasure of
meeting him, but I mean, I just think she's fantastic
and one of the things. Now we're all friends here
because we all know each other pretty well, so I
can say that when you've become a more mature person
(11:18):
like me, you have a memory of something and you think,
surely I must have got that wrong. That's just me
go and Gaga, you know. And I had a memory
quite seriously when I knew we were going to be
talking about Lydia Kay, I didn't memory. I think I
thought I didn't she playing in New Zealand Amateur Championship
when she was maybe in her first year at high school.
She was twelve or thirteen. So I looked it up. Now, yes,
(11:38):
I was wrong. She played in the New Zealand National
Amateur Championship when she was seven. That's one, two, three, four,
five sixty seven. She started playing golf when she was
five at the Tucklepona Golf Club. She was coached by
the same guy that coached through until she was a teenager.
She's been playing competitive championship golf till she was seven
(11:59):
years old, so that's twenty years. So getting back to it,
if she decides at before she turns thirty that it
might be time to have a life apart and away
from the golf course, then by god, nobody deserves that
more than a the UK.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
I think the way Rod that she's gone through the
joy of success and the depression around falling off that
lofty pedestal that she found herself on and then climbing
back up again, that says so much for her internal
spirit and her mental strength.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
You got a buy, oh absolutely, And look that even
just must be exhausting. She said twenty twenty three was
one of her worst years and it was really hard
to get back from that. And look she has and
she's been really consistent on when she wants to wrap
up her career, and that is absolutely her call. You know,
we don't know what it's like. It's remarkable that, as
Phil sees, she comes across as a really wonderful human
(12:57):
being because she hasn't been allowed to be a human
being as much as a gulf just machine. And I
think you know, if she wants a show it actually
having a bit more time with her friends, time with
her family and able to enjoy yourself without always having
golf at the back of her mind. Absolutely fair play
to it. And look, you know, in five weeks time,
(13:18):
if it's not working out for her and she's missing
the golf, she can always do a leon and a
raiser and just you know about hacks too.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Well, yeah, but she's not going to get a pay
it from anyone. She doesn't need it want like that,
you know.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
And look the.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Wonderful golfer, a wonderful human being, huge talent and most
importantly a great New Zealander and proud to have her
flying our flag globally in one of the world's biggest sports.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Oh listening to her at the Olympics, you know, saying
that the anthem coming through was just so emotional for
her because she's it's not on her Spotify playlist, she
doesn't hear it all the time, so it meant so
much to her.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
And as that's the anthem on this Spotify, you probably
do give it. That's enough, feel gift. Thanks very much
for your time. As always, you're as good as gold,
and thanks for making the efforts. Come on, I'll try
out now next time bringing umbrella. This is News Talks
ab IT seven away from nine.
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