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October 18, 2024 • 16 mins

The latest edition of 'The All-Star Panel' features Rugby Writer Jamie Wall and Graeme 'The Sportsfreak' Beasley.  

On this weekend's agenda: 

No one seems to care about the America's Cup, a week to remember for New Zealand Cricket, and has the NPC been a success?  

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the All Sport Breakfast podcast with Darcy
Wildegrave from News Talk SEDB All Sports Breakfast All Star
Panel Indeed and our All Star panel today consists of
one that James at Wall Good morning.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
To you, sir, morning, Darcy mate.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Very very well and Graham Beasley the sports freakers on
the other line.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
Graham, welcome to you as well.

Speaker 5 (00:33):
I trust you well, Thank you morning, Darcy morning. Jamie.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
Right, Jim, let's get on with it. Let's start off with.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
The Royal New Zealand Yacht Squadron entry to the America's
Cup title.

Speaker 5 (00:45):
Horo.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
Can they bring it home from here?

Speaker 3 (00:47):
You'd think they should be able to, although we've had
this as you before, haven't we imagine if you lost
it from here?

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah? I reckon that is it would be pretty funny
if they don't to besually honest, I've be honest with
me and I really I think I'm watching either because
it's been on the wrong time of day. I agree
with your sentiments before about if they do bring it
home where they actually will bother and bring it back
to New Zealand, because wouldn't you just take it straight

(01:15):
to Saudi Arabia? Go show it off there because they've
prettymatic clear they don't want to come back to New Zealand,
they don't want to sail in New Zealand. They don't
really represent his you on. So I'm not really that fussed,
to be honest, I'm guessing no one because my limited
knowledge of sailing tells me that they've done well enough

(01:36):
to get to this point at this point in time.
But do I here, Absolutely not.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
I've watched all of the races except for last night
because I kind of had to go to bed and
get up first thing and come in here. And there's
a small matter of the white ferns on as well,
which I watched.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
We had Dean Barker on the show last night.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Graham, and even he had a we dig around the
fact that the sailing is not the white matar, and
it's a way as diggy as Dean could get. I
think that's about as deep as he would because he's
such a polite character. He wasn't happy either.

Speaker 5 (02:06):
Yeah, and Venus and the kind of guy that would
would have Diggs, as you say, and this whole thing
about bringing it home will if ever there is an
event or a cup or an award that has no home.
It's this one. Yeah. I find it really hard to
get emotional involved. I haven't even looked from my Red
Sox yet. Littlone put them on and support of Chinese

(02:30):
manufactured support for Team New Zealand. Yeah, I mean, you know,
good on them. Berlin seems like a really good guy.
All the cruise things like good guys. It is hard
to warn to Dalton, let's be honest. And there's a
certain sort of edge to his voice when he talks
about not take it back to New Zealand. So I
actually hope that they don't bring the cut back. I

(02:52):
think they would, you know, if they were to bring
the cup back for a couple of weeks and do
some parades around New Zealand, I think that would be
rubbing our noses. And it actually more as the point,
although there was that'd be interesting, wouldn't they? Yeah, many
would Graham.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
I know that there was to it around the country
and the lead up to the America's Cup, and it
had still enormous magnetism in the community. A lot of
people still wanted to see the America's Cup. So we
can be as flipping as who you want. But the
general public are still attached to it, Jamie, Does that.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
Surprise you.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
A little bit? To be honest, you know, you have
to remember that we do exist in a bit of
a bubble here, and you know what we do with
our jobs, so we sort of can choose what we
do get emotionally fair. To be fair, yeah, and so
you know, obviously I do want to acknowledge that there
are people out you that I do care about it.
But just for me, I just think the way that
it's been you know, just basically said like, well, we don't,

(03:49):
we don't.

Speaker 5 (03:50):
We have no.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Motivation to actually hold it in New Zealand anymore. It's
just something that I don't just doesn't say it right
with me at all. And I understand that it's a
decent brand out there for the country and you know,
there's people watching it around the world, and I get
like the business side of it everything, but just the
fact that it just doesn't you know, like that, but
just it lost me with that one, to be celefully honest.

(04:14):
And I enjoyed the last one, like watching it, like
you know, we went to the beach and watched out
Takapuna and everything, and like I got involved in that,
but this, Yeah, I just don't know that.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
What gets me about it, Graham is I don't mind.
Well I do, but I don't that the highest bidder
is a sensory going.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
To take this cup to the waters.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
I understand that, and that looking like being Saudi Arabia.
But at least with the boxing they've come out pretty straight.
At least with the golf, they've come out and straight
and said, look, we can't compete with that money we're in.
We're getting paid a fortune. Of course we're going over there.
But the amount of skirting around the issue that you've
heard from the likes of Team New Zealand and everyone

(04:53):
else involved, it just tell us just say, look, we
couldn't turn the money down. We're going there. We all
know no one's going to mind. We just want to
just be straight up right.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
Yeah. And there's always been so much patriotism around the
America's Cup, and not just from this country. You know,
when when Australia wanted in the eighties, you know, there
was a huge Australian moment and you know the flag
with the boxing kangaroo on and all that kind of stuff.
And yeah, the fact that when Dennis kind of wanted
off them. It was in a boat called Stars and Stripes.
It's always been a very parochial patriot patriotic event, but

(05:31):
that's just been covering up the fact that it's actually
not you know, this is this is Team Emirates, this
is this is a whole lot of money involved, and
now that Britain are making a big thing that they're
challenging for it for the first time in sixty years.
Well they're owned by some sort of petro Corps or something. Okay,
so it's yeah, it's it's the false patriotism that gets me.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
And on that we walk away and we'll get Patreon
about something that's dead to all of our hearts. Jamie Waller,
who what a funk it? The Black Caps under the pump?
Something rotten? The captain walks and then tanna, look what
they've done in India.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
You wouldn't read about it, my friend.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, that's true. I just if we're going to talk
about a career, I just would like to acknowledge that
the White Friend's making the teaching work up final, because
I don't think you thought that was going to happen
either with their lead up form as well.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
So well, I've been acknowledging it all morning, Jamie. I
can't help them.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
My person will do it, especially for Soviet Divine. Yeah,
and so's base. You know that. I think they would
have been playing the last time the White Friends actually
were sort of relevant.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
Of this at this level.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
But anyway, Yeah, it's been a it's been an interesting
couple of days. I sat down and watched that first
session of the Test, or day two it was, and
just couldn't believe what I was seeing. I mean, like,
how on earth does India go and win a toss,
go into bat or one of their own pitchers and
get rolled for forty six like it's crazy. And then

(06:57):
you've got you know, Matt Henry Stephen bowling, you know,
one of the greatest performances in ever by a New
Zealand bowler, and then a great knock by Russian Revenger
and the end. Last night were sitting at the park
and watching them just start. It's obviously all the in
the amatsment remember how to play, So it's an interesting spot.
I think, you know, the next next session or so

(07:18):
it's going to play a big part and determine English
way that one goes off.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
It from time to time I get to Wellington and
crash into Graham, the sports freak. Beasley pronominally is because
I'm going down there to watch cricket. I know this
is your sweet spot, Graham, and that lovely that almost
the last action of the day was Golden arm Phillips
standing up and getting rid of a wicket. Just to
add a bit more spice to the first session today.

Speaker 5 (07:42):
Oh yeah, it's not over yet, though, is it. You know,
we're always when we're following this team, especially when they're
playing in the country like India, you sort of still
fear the worst. And even though we have our foot
on the throat, there's you know, there's every chanct and
you can can still play. You play their way out
of this one. But yeah, I thought that that wicked
at the end of yesterday was so important. You know,

(08:05):
we didn't want coming up to bat on seventy again.
So now that he's gone, because that's a little bit
more high. Jamie's right, and the first session today. And
I know it's the oldest cliche in the book that
you know that the first session is crucial, but it
really is because on both days, batting in that first
hour and I remember they're starting at half past nine
local time or something has been tough, so we really

(08:29):
need to make the most of the first couple of hours.
But the other thing that really warm my heart last
night has seen Tim Saudi bat You know, he's got
so much flack over the years, and we've got to
remember he's not on the side for his batting. He's
a bowler. But he just seemed to be a guy
who had relinquished as the captaincy, and he just looked
so happy. You know, he was smiling most of his

(08:51):
way through that innings. And you know, I think with
the ben for the hindsight, I think that the captaincy
probably probably did burden him hugely.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
So you can tell that the relief and his faith,
the way he bowled, the way he batted. Some people
they stand on the shoulders of the captain c and
they succeed other people the captains gets on them and
squashes them into the ground. So they made the right decision. Sow,
they made the right decision. I don't think there's anything
arguments here. My big decision now is what do I
watch over the other because I can't really I suppose

(09:21):
I can twin Screen Cricket and the MPC will talk
about that shortly. Jamie wall Graham that the sports freak
Beasley are our guests on the All Star Panel. It's
n PC we go to next here on news Dogs
there b it's.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
Eight forty four.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
That says the All Sport Breakfast with the All Star Panel.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
And who are our panelists?

Speaker 3 (09:47):
I'll tell you Jamie Waller and Graham Beasley. Jamie hanging
there a second. We'll get to your rugby shortly. But Graham, now,
what's coming up this afternoon? The Phoenix still exists, don't they?
Because from what I can tell, the media have completely
ignored them and it's all about the new kids.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
But what is this.

Speaker 5 (10:06):
Noisy new kids? You're right, they've been all over the
media all I was going to say a week, but
pretty much all year, even before they existed. But we're
not better at all here. You have to Phoenix start
this season on Sunday afternoon against Western United and that's
always a bit of a Niggli game too, because that's
where Marco Rudin went to a couple of years ago.

(10:28):
And so we've never forgiven wes In United either. But
all focused in the Capitol is on the game in
a couple of weeks time when auton Trump supporting Megas
come to town and we play them, and you know, there
is a lot of talk about that already and we
are looking forward to that, well, filming them into the
home of football in this country and welcome wing back

(10:49):
Alex Pulsen.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Yeah, it's quite hard stomach, isn't it that about face
by Foley supporting Trump? And hey, that's politics, is when
politics and sport don't mix.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
The Jamie Wall Yeah, well, I mean the guys in
American Billennia, like, what did you think he was his
political views were going to be late? I mean, I
don't think he's ever a shot away. My My big
thing about Bill Foley is not so much as political belief,
because I'll be at the guy. You've seemed nice, and

(11:18):
you know, he's a rich, old white guy from America,
so I'm guessing he's a Republican. But he was also
he graduated from West Point Military Academy, which is pretty interesting,
and but he did he did it in nineteen sixty
seven and didn't go to Vietnam. Like that's never been
brought up by the one of those guys.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
Oh, so that's why he's Trump.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
That's what did you got in common with Trump more
than anything else. So there's one. There's one for the
yellow Fever if you're listening. I'm sure they were listening
to but the that's that might be an interesting one,
go for it. But it's a pretty good occasion for
it's a nice day here and just read a really
nice piece on on the Herald by Michael Bugis sort
of saying like how great it is to have a

(12:01):
team back in Hawkland again because no one actually thought
it would happen, which which I think is pretty cool
and just yeah, putting the parochial but aside, it's just
really good for football in the city because you know,
it's just a mess of participation score here and it's
great that because they're going to know that there is,
you know, a pathway for them to represent the actual
city that they live in rather than looking abroad or

(12:23):
looking at the Phoenix in order to do so.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
Do you think the irony is lost on anyone that
they're wearing blue and black stripes, not hoops, but stripes
exactly the same as Ponsomi and they're going to go
and take their ground over and build a new football
ground Western Springs.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
Oh that's delicious, and a.

Speaker 5 (12:41):
Jamie the all componies.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Let's not go there, Let's go somewhere else. Let's go
Graham Graham, Graham Graham. Wellington are playing this evening. They
are playing for a spot in the final against the
White couple who defended so manfully last weekend. And the
other side of the coin, it's Canterbury and Bay of Plenty. See,
this has been a great competition so far, has it not.

Speaker 5 (13:10):
It's been a fantastic competition. And any competition where North
Harbor put sixty points on Canterbury a really good compensation, right,
It's just that's that's a definition of a good competition.
But it's been really interesting. Every week has thrown up
major upsets, some big school line blowouts, you know, obviously

(13:30):
with Auckland with most of their players having paid for
the championship winning Blues not making the final eight, things
like that, it's been really hard to predict. The Renfully
shield subplot throughout the season was great. I thought Tesmon
did a really good job with the shield over. You know,
they really adored it and looked after it. Unlike the
previous owners. So yeah, I think it's been a real

(13:53):
sort of feel good season. You would expect Willington to
win tonight, but you know that's it's been said a
lot of times over the years and it hasn't happened.
So I'm not getting ahead of ourselves here. Andbviously the
whole country once pay plenty to make their first find
it on next thract.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
Jamie Waller, you'd be behind weally one percent.

Speaker 5 (14:14):
Next.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
He had Neil Barnes on the show a couple of
days back, talking about the strength of the NBC and
why it's worked so far this season, and he touched
on a number of keys for you, Jamie, why has
it been successful this time around?

Speaker 4 (14:28):
What's happened?

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Well, fairly honest with you, I think the best advertisement
of the MPC's had in years was the kind of
misquote quoted piece from easid Rugby saying that it wasn't
for purpose when they're actually talking about the financial model,
but it was taken to mean that the infancy is
under threat and we might scrap it. And to be
to be purely fair, it was probably the right message

(14:51):
they need to get out because I think people have
responded quite well to what we've seen some really good
crowds and the regions and yeah, like the Shield, the
Shield's journey has really added to it this year. It's
been a really strong Shield season, even though I care
for the teams that have held it. But to be
prettally honest with you and like, yes, obviously I want

(15:12):
Wellington one being along suffering Wellingtonian. But let's face it,
the best place the final could be isn't told on
it because they will get a good crowd there, it
will look good on TV, they will have the kids
out on the field after the game. It'll be It'll
be much better esthetically than having it at sky Stadium
or that pilot scaffolding their core stadium down in christ

(15:34):
Church or wherever. It kind of needs that in order
to have that kind of fulfill that arc of taking
the n PC back to the people and having it
as this competition where you know communities are involved in it.
How are they going to do that with Wellington winning
this in the final, I'm not sure. Maybe they should
just change the rules out of it's not.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
A stadium, it's a lean to made out of mercano.
But that's okay. A new one's turning up evn C.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Jamie Wall of Graham BC, you thanks so much for
your time, your contributions.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
If a real pleasure. Guys you go well, thank you uys.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
He good on Jamie and Graham, thank you. It is
seven minutes to nine Jason, Pie and Jeorge. Surely we'll
prove you what's happening on his program Coming to you
Love from Mount Smart from Go Media Stadium from Arada, Tonga,
pineys here X.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
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Speaker 3 (16:26):
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