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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Joining us in the studio now is a member of
the I guess what are we calling it now? The
waterworks for Central Alabama Waterworks Birmingham.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
It is the City of Birmingham Regional water Board doing
business as Central Alabama water That's.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
A mouthful and a lot of letters too. I don't
think that would fit on a you know, a manhole cover.
All right, Jeff Brumlo is here, and I really appreciate
you coming in. There's been so many questions from so
many people for so long about what the heck is
going on with our waterworks bort and it finally, you
know what it feels like to me that finally we've
(00:34):
got common sense in the representation of everybody that is
served by the waterworks, not just Birmingham, and equal representation
from those areas. And there's a bit of a doge
going on inside to figure out what the heck's been
going on, where the money is, where are the bodies buried?
What's going on here in the Forensica accounting department? And
(00:58):
you know what are we doing as far as technology?
He goes, how are we reading meters? Why are people's
water bills going from eighty dollars to four thousand and
one month, so many questions. So let's start at the
beginning with the new board. When this came down, it
upset obviously the people in Birmingham that were on the
board because there's only two of them now and how
(01:18):
many total people are on.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
The There's seven people on the board, okay, Five are
from outside of the city of Birmingham, appointments from outside
city of Birmingham, and two are from appointments inside the
city of Burmham.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
And the majority of the people served by the Waterworks
Board are outside of the city of Birmingham. That's correct.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
You have to write about seven hundred and seventy thousand
people that are served by the water board. Birmingham's last
census I think had about one hundred and ninety thousand
people okay, in the city, So the bulk of it's
outside of the city of.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Birmingham, but most of it in Jefferson County, just the
right side the city.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Right about ninety percents in Jefferson County.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Okay. Now, with that said, equal representation is two from
Birmingham and then the other five because the bulk of
it is outside the city of Birmingham. So why are
the people in Birmingham and the city council and the
lawsuits filed? And why are they stopping their feet and
claiming this is unfair? YadA, YadA YadA. Is it because
they're losing power, control and money? You know, you'd have
(02:17):
to ask them that, JG. Because I have no clue
what their reasoning is or what their thinking is. Well,
the suit's been filed. You're an attorney. What's the bulk
of their claim that, you know, we shouldn't be operating
the new way. Well, the biggest part.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Of their claim, and I won't go into too much
of the details of the litigation, the bulk of their
claim is that it just it doesn't look right, it
doesn't feel right to them.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Well, boohoo, I mean right.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I mean well, I think I think the legislature acted
in a way they thought was in the best interests
of you know, twenty percent of the people of the
state of Alabama.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Long overdue, long overdue. There's been a numerous amount of
lawsuits filed in previous years. Scott Mayer, who's been in
here a number of times, an attorney filed a big
class action and the judge kicked that didn't go anywhere.
Going way back with the Waterworks Board, people have lost
their jobs, have been criminally charged, and I believe some
have gone to jail.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
That's correct.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
So in the new efforts, now with the new board,
what still has to be done as far as setting
up with the operation of how things are going to
be moving forward.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
We've got to First of all, we've got to hire
a CEO. The Act requires us Senate built three point thirty,
requires us to hire a not just a board member,
but somebody's actually, that's correct, a CEO who employed, who
heads up the water board. And that's that's the next
step we've got there.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
As far as the.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Board goes, we were required to change the name, and
the name had to include the City of Birmingham in it.
So the City of Birmingham Regional Water Board is the name,
but officially we'll do business as Central Alabama Water A
whole lot easier to say, well.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
And it makes more common sense. It's just not the
City of Birmingham. It serves so all right with the
people that were appointed or brought in, was that done
by council commissions, governor various people?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
So for instance, Birmingham has two appointments. Mayor Woodfin appointed
Jarvis Patten, great guy. The City Council appointed Sheila Tyson,
a county commissioner. She's got her ear to the ground
on a lot of things in Jefferson County. So that's
some good representation from the City of Birmingham. I was
appointed by the Shelby County Commission former Shelby County Commissioner,
(04:28):
and they called on me to come and serve, and
I was willing to do that. David Standards was appointed
by the Blunt County Commission. Then the governor appointed Tommy Hudson.
Jefferson County commission President appointed Phil Widmer, and the Lieutenant
Governor appointed Bill Morris, who's the head of the Leeds Waterboard. Okay,
(04:49):
all right, so first things first, and then we'll take
a break. I want you to stay, if you can
stay with me.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Sure, What are the top two three items on the agenda?
You could pass the technlity and technicalities of setting up
the board and everything. Item one in the business of
what we got to find out and fix or do.
What's number one on the list of this board? I
think to figure out.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Where we are, because if you don't know where you
are and where you've been, you can't figure out where
to go. So we've got the Apartment of Public Accounting
has come in to review all the books from a
public law standpoint, and then we've got forensic auditors who
are coming in to look at various aspects of the board.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
How far back you going.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
It's going to depend on where they want to go.
It looks like it's about two to three years.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Back, and it may present itself for oh my gosh,
we're going to have to go back five or seven.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
It could very well be. We'll let them make that determination.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
And I don't want to jump the gun here, but
is their potential in this investigation and forensic look at
the accounting and the numbers that there could be potential
criminal liability here?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Well, we'll wait to see that report when it comes out.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Let me rephrase it.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Is it a possibility, It's always a possibility, Okay, But
we'll wait till that report comes out and we will
let it go wherever it's going to go.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
All right, you're an attorney as well. I mean, something
obviously stinks in some areas and all of this I'm
sure you've seen by now, and it may be premature
to comment out of it, but do you have a
bit of a sense of ick going on?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
You know, there's there's always been some smoke around the waterboard,
and where there's smoke, there's typically fire. We just don't
know where it is. So we're just going to try
and figure that out, and if it has been going on,
we're going to stop it. You know, it's going forward.
This is not this is not the same waterboard. This
is a new day.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Common sense has entered the room absolutely. Jeff Brumlo is
in the studio with us as the investigation I guess
you would say, and to kind of uncover what's been
going on, what can change to make it things better
for all of us customers and the way they operate
the water export. It's been busy, to say the least
for you guys that have come on board now very
much so. All right, So, as you were talking about
(06:55):
before the break, there forensic accounting is going to be
looked at and there may be reason and there's some
certainly allegations that there were some I don't know, you know,
kickbacks and contract work that was hired by the waterworks board.
You know, whether it's an asphalt job, or it's a
you know, a landscape job. You got a rep up yards.
You know who gets those jobs? And why were they
going to certain people versus other people where they bid properly.
(07:17):
I mean you're an attorney. You understand bids and things
like that. So is that an issue that is being
looked at it?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah? We want we want to look at it. We
want to know where we are, what's been going on,
so that we make sure if there were mistakes made
in the past, we don't make them again.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Okay. In addition to uncovering and looking at you know,
the fiduciary responsibility lies with the board on our money.
It's years in my money as well as everybody else
is getting the water that it's done properly and it's
done responsibly and nobody's up to some underhanded stuff going on.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
All right, let's talk about the technology of what's going
on with the waterworks board. Are there ways because people
used to complain that I'd get a bill it would
be spikes and I've why, it's the meter out here
and there's still weeds growing all over it. They haven't
turned my meter over and lifted the lid to take
a look in three, four, five, six months, and they
(08:09):
were I guess average, estimating the bills based on previous
water usage. And is there not a better way to
read these meters?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
There is those Those were called estimations. They would do estimations.
They couldn't go by and just kind of estimate what
your water and super bill was. Then they do come by.
If it was higher than that, you get a bigger bill,
which is which is problematic. I had that happened to
me back in twenty twenty two. That's problematic. But there
are better ways of doing this. There's what's called arms
(08:39):
or automatic read meters that connect with the network. Automatic
automatic like automatic to have an app for it. You
can have an app on your phone that shows you
your daily water usage. If there's a link that happens,
it'll alert you. There's just all kinds of technology out there.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Why aren't we using it?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Well, that's what I'll tell you. All seven board members
are in favor of moving to that technology as quickly
as possible and doing it right and responsibly in a
way that is affordable for the ratepayers, but it helps
them understand their water usage and they get a fair
(09:17):
and accurate bill every time they get a bill. So
that is one thing I think all seven of us
are in favor of.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Is that new technology. Is it expensive technology?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Know that technology has been around in various forms for
probably ten or twelve years. Okay, well we relate to
the game on that we are. We are, but it's
also expensive. We got two hundred and twenty thousand meters
out there, okay, so changing out all those meters with
the automatic read meters is not going to be cheap
and it's but it's something I think that's necessary and
it helps our rate payers see the future.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, the long run, the rate payers are going to
benefit from this being go absolutely. So what is besides
forensically looking at the accounting and changing the technology to
bring in up to speed. What other issues is the
board looking at now? Faced with challenges hurdles?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Well, I mean, we've got various things to do to
be in compliance with Center Bill three thirty. We've got
to formulate the position of CEO at the water board
and make that position available and do our research on
bringing that person in. We've got new bylaws that we
need that bring us into conformity with that act.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Well, the company hire people that work for you as
opposed to having to contract everything out all the time,
like landscapers for instance, when they rip yards up.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I mean, yeah, we're actually looking at that, looking at
ways to improve internally, improve that to where those kind
of skill sets we can have on staff as opposed
to having to hire those out all the time.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I would imagine collectively over a here and for instance,
in landscaping or roadwork or whatever, you hire these outside
companies to come in and do is millions of dollar
and yeah, and with that kind of price tag on it,
you probably hire five or six staff members to hit
that up for your own department and work for you
for less than that.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Absolutely, And that's that's why you know, we've got to
we got to start at the basics and get the
CEO in there and then let them look at that
and come up with the best alternative for us. That's
that's price wise. I mean, you got to take it
in strides.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
You guys got your work cut out for it.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
We're eating, we're eating an elephant, and uh.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
One bite at a time. That's exactly right. So out
of this, I think a lot of people have some
explaining to do, and you'll get to the bottom of that.
So that's good news to hear. And secondly, you guys
are not one year terms, right, you're there for how
long are you? How are board members?
Speaker 2 (11:44):
They each each board member is there for has a
five year term except for the initial board that's the
seven of us. A couple of folks have a one
year term which they can be reappointed for two terms.
A couple have two year terms, three year terms, four
year terms. I'm on a five year Okay, Well, I'm
glad you're on the board. You know, thank you, I'll
tell you that much. And I appreciate everything that everybody's doing.
(12:07):
And once again, long overdue for this to have happened
for the rappayers in the city of Birmingham, in the
county at Jefferson County.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
And all the other counties that we serve. I guess
it was Walker and Shelby and Wall Blunt.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Shelby and Blunt all have people on the water board.
Walker not too many, yeah, Blunt two or three thousand.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
But it's all proportioned. You know, Birmingham didn't need to
be whining. You know, you've got equal representation based on
the amount of customers in your city. So you know,
with the lawsuits, you anticipate those settling pretty soon.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I don't know, you know, I'll have to talk to
our attorney on that and and and get with him.
But that's all. That's all handled down in Montgomery Federal Court.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Okay, in the middle District. Well, we'll have you back.
I really appreciate you coming in. Absolutely you go into
the beach or anything for.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
The four I am yeah, wife and I are heading
down to Orange Beach in the morning and very nice.
Been the fourth down there. Well, enjoy, enjoy, Good to
see you. Good seeing you.
Joining us in the studio now is a member of
the I guess what are we calling it now? The
waterworks for Central Alabama Waterworks Birmingham.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
It is the City of Birmingham Regional water Board doing
business as Central Alabama water That's.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
A mouthful and a lot of letters too. I don't
think that would fit on a you know, a manhole cover.
All right, Jeff Brumlo is here, and I really appreciate
you coming in. There's been so many questions from so
many people for so long about what the heck is
going on with our waterworks bort and it finally, you
know what it feels like to me that finally we've
(00:34):
got common sense in the representation of everybody that is
served by the waterworks, not just Birmingham, and equal representation
from those areas. And there's a bit of a doge
going on inside to figure out what the heck's been
going on, where the money is, where are the bodies buried?
What's going on here in the Forensica accounting department? And
(00:58):
you know what are we doing as far as technology?
He goes, how are we reading meters? Why are people's
water bills going from eighty dollars to four thousand and
one month, so many questions. So let's start at the
beginning with the new board. When this came down, it
upset obviously the people in Birmingham that were on the
board because there's only two of them now and how
(01:18):
many total people are on.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
The There's seven people on the board, okay, Five are
from outside of the city of Birmingham, appointments from outside
city of Birmingham, and two are from appointments inside the
city of Burmham.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
And the majority of the people served by the Waterworks
Board are outside of the city of Birmingham. That's correct.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
You have to write about seven hundred and seventy thousand
people that are served by the water board. Birmingham's last
census I think had about one hundred and ninety thousand
people okay, in the city, So the bulk of it's
outside of the city of.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Birmingham, but most of it in Jefferson County, just the
right side the city.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Right about ninety percents in Jefferson County.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Okay. Now, with that said, equal representation is two from
Birmingham and then the other five because the bulk of
it is outside the city of Birmingham. So why are
the people in Birmingham and the city council and the
lawsuits filed? And why are they stopping their feet and
claiming this is unfair? YadA, YadA YadA. Is it because
they're losing power, control and money? You know, you'd have
(02:17):
to ask them that, JG. Because I have no clue
what their reasoning is or what their thinking is. Well,
the suit's been filed. You're an attorney. What's the bulk
of their claim that, you know, we shouldn't be operating
the new way. Well, the biggest part.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Of their claim, and I won't go into too much
of the details of the litigation, the bulk of their
claim is that it just it doesn't look right, it
doesn't feel right to them.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Well, boohoo, I mean right.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I mean well, I think I think the legislature acted
in a way they thought was in the best interests
of you know, twenty percent of the people of the
state of Alabama.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Long overdue, long overdue. There's been a numerous amount of
lawsuits filed in previous years. Scott Mayer, who's been in
here a number of times, an attorney filed a big
class action and the judge kicked that didn't go anywhere.
Going way back with the Waterworks Board, people have lost
their jobs, have been criminally charged, and I believe some
have gone to jail.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
That's correct.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
So in the new efforts, now with the new board,
what still has to be done as far as setting
up with the operation of how things are going to
be moving forward.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
We've got to First of all, we've got to hire
a CEO. The Act requires us Senate built three point thirty,
requires us to hire a not just a board member,
but somebody's actually, that's correct, a CEO who employed, who
heads up the water board. And that's that's the next
step we've got there.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
As far as the.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Board goes, we were required to change the name, and
the name had to include the City of Birmingham in it.
So the City of Birmingham Regional Water Board is the name,
but officially we'll do business as Central Alabama Water A
whole lot easier to say, well.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
And it makes more common sense. It's just not the
City of Birmingham. It serves so all right with the
people that were appointed or brought in, was that done
by council commissions, governor various people?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
So for instance, Birmingham has two appointments. Mayor Woodfin appointed
Jarvis Patten, great guy. The City Council appointed Sheila Tyson,
a county commissioner. She's got her ear to the ground
on a lot of things in Jefferson County. So that's
some good representation from the City of Birmingham. I was
appointed by the Shelby County Commission former Shelby County Commissioner,
(04:28):
and they called on me to come and serve, and
I was willing to do that. David Standards was appointed
by the Blunt County Commission. Then the governor appointed Tommy Hudson.
Jefferson County commission President appointed Phil Widmer, and the Lieutenant
Governor appointed Bill Morris, who's the head of the Leeds Waterboard. Okay,
(04:49):
all right, so first things first, and then we'll take
a break. I want you to stay, if you can
stay with me.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Sure, What are the top two three items on the agenda?
You could pass the technlity and technicalities of setting up
the board and everything. Item one in the business of
what we got to find out and fix or do.
What's number one on the list of this board? I
think to figure out.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Where we are, because if you don't know where you
are and where you've been, you can't figure out where
to go. So we've got the Apartment of Public Accounting
has come in to review all the books from a
public law standpoint, and then we've got forensic auditors who
are coming in to look at various aspects of the board.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
How far back you going.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
It's going to depend on where they want to go.
It looks like it's about two to three years.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Back, and it may present itself for oh my gosh,
we're going to have to go back five or seven.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
It could very well be. We'll let them make that determination.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
And I don't want to jump the gun here, but
is their potential in this investigation and forensic look at
the accounting and the numbers that there could be potential
criminal liability here?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Well, we'll wait to see that report when it comes out.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Let me rephrase it.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Is it a possibility, It's always a possibility, Okay, But
we'll wait till that report comes out and we will
let it go wherever it's going to go.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
All right, you're an attorney as well. I mean, something
obviously stinks in some areas and all of this I'm
sure you've seen by now, and it may be premature
to comment out of it, but do you have a
bit of a sense of ick going on?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
You know, there's there's always been some smoke around the waterboard,
and where there's smoke, there's typically fire. We just don't
know where it is. So we're just going to try
and figure that out, and if it has been going on,
we're going to stop it. You know, it's going forward.
This is not this is not the same waterboard. This
is a new day.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Common sense has entered the room absolutely. Jeff Brumlo is
in the studio with us as the investigation I guess
you would say, and to kind of uncover what's been
going on, what can change to make it things better
for all of us customers and the way they operate
the water export. It's been busy, to say the least
for you guys that have come on board now very
much so. All right, So, as you were talking about
(06:55):
before the break, there forensic accounting is going to be
looked at and there may be reason and there's some
certainly allegations that there were some I don't know, you know,
kickbacks and contract work that was hired by the waterworks board.
You know, whether it's an asphalt job, or it's a
you know, a landscape job. You got a rep up yards.
You know who gets those jobs? And why were they
going to certain people versus other people where they bid properly.
(07:17):
I mean you're an attorney. You understand bids and things
like that. So is that an issue that is being
looked at it?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah? We want we want to look at it. We
want to know where we are, what's been going on,
so that we make sure if there were mistakes made
in the past, we don't make them again.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Okay. In addition to uncovering and looking at you know,
the fiduciary responsibility lies with the board on our money.
It's years in my money as well as everybody else
is getting the water that it's done properly and it's
done responsibly and nobody's up to some underhanded stuff going on.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
All right, let's talk about the technology of what's going
on with the waterworks board. Are there ways because people
used to complain that I'd get a bill it would
be spikes and I've why, it's the meter out here
and there's still weeds growing all over it. They haven't
turned my meter over and lifted the lid to take
a look in three, four, five, six months, and they
(08:09):
were I guess average, estimating the bills based on previous
water usage. And is there not a better way to
read these meters?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
There is those Those were called estimations. They would do estimations.
They couldn't go by and just kind of estimate what
your water and super bill was. Then they do come by.
If it was higher than that, you get a bigger bill,
which is which is problematic. I had that happened to
me back in twenty twenty two. That's problematic. But there
are better ways of doing this. There's what's called arms
(08:39):
or automatic read meters that connect with the network. Automatic
automatic like automatic to have an app for it. You
can have an app on your phone that shows you
your daily water usage. If there's a link that happens,
it'll alert you. There's just all kinds of technology out there.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Why aren't we using it?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Well, that's what I'll tell you. All seven board members
are in favor of moving to that technology as quickly
as possible and doing it right and responsibly in a
way that is affordable for the ratepayers, but it helps
them understand their water usage and they get a fair
(09:17):
and accurate bill every time they get a bill. So
that is one thing I think all seven of us
are in favor of.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Is that new technology. Is it expensive technology?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Know that technology has been around in various forms for
probably ten or twelve years. Okay, well we relate to
the game on that we are. We are, but it's
also expensive. We got two hundred and twenty thousand meters
out there, okay, so changing out all those meters with
the automatic read meters is not going to be cheap
and it's but it's something I think that's necessary and
it helps our rate payers see the future.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, the long run, the rate payers are going to
benefit from this being go absolutely. So what is besides
forensically looking at the accounting and changing the technology to
bring in up to speed. What other issues is the
board looking at now? Faced with challenges hurdles?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Well, I mean, we've got various things to do to
be in compliance with Center Bill three thirty. We've got
to formulate the position of CEO at the water board
and make that position available and do our research on
bringing that person in. We've got new bylaws that we
need that bring us into conformity with that act.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Well, the company hire people that work for you as
opposed to having to contract everything out all the time,
like landscapers for instance, when they rip yards up.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I mean, yeah, we're actually looking at that, looking at
ways to improve internally, improve that to where those kind
of skill sets we can have on staff as opposed
to having to hire those out all the time.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I would imagine collectively over a here and for instance,
in landscaping or roadwork or whatever, you hire these outside
companies to come in and do is millions of dollar
and yeah, and with that kind of price tag on it,
you probably hire five or six staff members to hit
that up for your own department and work for you
for less than that.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Absolutely, And that's that's why you know, we've got to
we got to start at the basics and get the
CEO in there and then let them look at that
and come up with the best alternative for us. That's
that's price wise. I mean, you got to take it
in strides.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
You guys got your work cut out for it.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
We're eating, we're eating an elephant, and uh.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
One bite at a time. That's exactly right. So out
of this, I think a lot of people have some
explaining to do, and you'll get to the bottom of that.
So that's good news to hear. And secondly, you guys
are not one year terms, right, you're there for how
long are you? How are board members?
Speaker 2 (11:44):
They each each board member is there for has a
five year term except for the initial board that's the
seven of us. A couple of folks have a one
year term which they can be reappointed for two terms.
A couple have two year terms, three year terms, four
year terms. I'm on a five year Okay, Well, I'm
glad you're on the board. You know, thank you, I'll
tell you that much. And I appreciate everything that everybody's doing.
(12:07):
And once again, long overdue for this to have happened
for the rappayers in the city of Birmingham, in the
county at Jefferson County.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
And all the other counties that we serve. I guess
it was Walker and Shelby and Wall Blunt.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Shelby and Blunt all have people on the water board.
Walker not too many, yeah, Blunt two or three thousand.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
But it's all proportioned. You know, Birmingham didn't need to
be whining. You know, you've got equal representation based on
the amount of customers in your city. So you know,
with the lawsuits, you anticipate those settling pretty soon.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I don't know, you know, I'll have to talk to
our attorney on that and and and get with him.
But that's all. That's all handled down in Montgomery Federal Court.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Okay, in the middle District. Well, we'll have you back.
I really appreciate you coming in. Absolutely you go into
the beach or anything for.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
The four I am yeah, wife and I are heading
down to Orange Beach in the morning and very nice.
Been the fourth down there. Well, enjoy, enjoy, Good to
see you. Good seeing you.
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