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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Craig Delouze joins us now, who is Project twenty one's
ambassador and almost thirty years in public policy and advocacy. Craig,
welcome in, Thanks for being here.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
It's a pleasure to be with you. All.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Right, before we start talking about Kamala Harris, let's talk
about Project twenty one.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
What is Project twenty one.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Well, you know, if you were to listen to the
mainstream media and entertainment industry, you believe that all members
of the black community or Black Americans think the exact
same way, when in reality, there's a diaspora of thought
from the liberal of the liberal to the conservative of
the conservative. And Project twenty one is dedicated to try
and help get the voices out of those who are conservative,
(00:39):
those who believe that America is exceptional, those who believe
in the right to the right to keep in bare arms,
those who believe in free market economies, those who believe
in the right to life, and really kind of promoted
their messages experts in areas across across the diaspa once again, education, economic, law, enforcement,
(01:01):
and really kind of make sure those voices get out there,
not only to help not only to help conservatives understand
how our values impact a lot of urban communities or
people of color, but also to help the mainstream media
understand that, you know, we don't all think alike.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
All right, I want to get your thoughts on Donald
Trump's comment at this, you know event that took place
in Chicago, the National Association of Black Journalists, where he
questioned Kamala's position on is she black, is she Jamaican?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Does she come from Indian? You know, her.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Heritage and nationality? And he said, look, one time she's
saying she's Indian and all about that, and now she's
saying she's a black woman. And you know, oh, you know,
the grine Jean Pierre in the White House just up
in arms calling it.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Disgusting and offensive.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
And I mean, your thoughts on Donald Trump bringing this
to the front, you know, stage as a lot of
people are thinking the same thing.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I think it was a mist I think, you know,
she went to a black university. Now granted, she spent
her formative years in Canada at a prep school in
one of the richest communities there in Canada, you know,
but having said that, you know, the black family is
full of examples of diversity of inclusion, of other cultures.
(02:21):
I think going after that is just a mistake on
behalf of the president. I think he needs to focus
on her policies because that's what's really there. The reality
is her policies are bad, and that's what he needs
to be focusing on. I think this is a distraction.
I think he handed them the distraction because otherwise, as
he addressed her, as he addressed the questions, which, by
(02:43):
the way, with the exception of Harris Faulkner, the person
from ABC News, was completely and utterly rude, and I
think he was responding to a certain degree in kind
and was very rude back, and you know, he gave
as good as he got, but it was very frustrating
because his answers on the issues were solid. He just
(03:05):
gave them something to be distracted away from.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah, here's a little snippet of that little confrontation with
that ABC reporter on stage with Donald Trump yesterday at
the National Association of Black Journalists. She's a little aggressive.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Listen.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Some of your own supporters, including Republicans on Capitol Hill,
have labeled Vice President Kamala Harris, who was the first
black and Asian American woman to serve as vice president
and be on a major party ticket as a DEI hire?
Is that acceptable language to you? And will you tell
those Republicans and those supporters to stop it?
Speaker 5 (03:35):
How do you how do you define DEI?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Go ahead?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
How do you define diversity?
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Equity inclusion?
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Okay, yeah, go ahead? Is that what your definition?
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Give that is?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
That is? Give me a definition?
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Then would you give me a definition?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (03:47):
Yeah, give me a definition, Sar'ah'm asking you a quiement.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Direct the define it from me?
Speaker 4 (03:52):
If I just defined it?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Sir?
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Do you believe that Vice President Kamala Harris is only
on the ticket because she is a black woman?
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Well, I can say no. I think it's maybe a
little bit different. So I've known her a long time
indirect laim not direct lane very much, and she was
always of Indian heritage, and she was only promoting Indian heritage.
I didn't know she was black.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
All right?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
With that said there, and we talked about the fact
that he brought up, you know what heritage she is
the DEI thing. Do you believe that there's a part
of that in the factor. As far as how her
advancements have gone from the beginning, I.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Can't necessarily speak to her becoming the becoming denominee. But
if you look at it, Joe Biden himself both before
he nominated her and apper he nominated her first of all,
before he nominator said he said he was only looking
at black women. So if you're only looking at black women,
that means that you are elevating race above all else.
(04:51):
Right and by the way, above all el race and
gender above all else, that includes merit. So yeah, by definite,
that by definition, that is DEI. That's what DEI does, right, right,
That's how she became a vice president. And then he
praised her as he was talking about diversity, equity inclusion,
(05:11):
praised her as basically, that's the reason why he hired her,
that's the reason why he made her the vice president.
So she can't, I mean, she doesn't get to pretend
that's not the case. My question is this, If diversity,
equity and inclusion is such a good thing, if it's
a thing that we all should be aspiring to, both
in corporations and in private and in private government and
(05:32):
in government public public office, well then why are you insulted?
Why does it bother you? And I know why it
bothers them because the insinuation is is that something other
than merit was the primary reason they were placed in
that position. And I'm like that, if you want merit
to be the number one thing to be, you want
(05:54):
to be known for the number one thing is merit,
then how about you not elevate other things above merit?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Amen? Amen? Amen?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
And you know you saw Kringe Jean Pierre when they
had a couple of people leave the White House staff,
and she flat out came right out and said, the
first thing we're going to be looking at black female
LGBTQ before we jump into any other qualification. And that
messaging coming from the White House is just atrocious.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Well and coming from the worst press recretary in American history.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Amen. Amen.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
All right, as a black man yourself, what are your
thoughts on Kamala Harrison, White dudes for Kamala and all
of this. You know I'm hearing time and time again,
pandering is all the Democrats do. I mean, Charles Barkley
has said it a hundred times. The only time I
hear from Democratic candidates is you know, election year, and
then they get elected and then they go away. Your
thoughts on the black community swinging more towards Conservatism.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Well, I will tell you, and it's really kind of
a divide because if you really look at it, the
number one group other than the Black community that supports
Democrats and Joe Biden Kamala Harris are single childless women
or single women. Right, if you look at the numbers,
overall men are swinging significantly to the right. Right. Single
(07:12):
men as well are swinging significantly to the right. If
you look at women, women as a whole have swung
to the left. Married women are pretty much fifty to fifty,
but single women have overwhelmingly over the last decade swung
towards the left, and the left has worked to capitalize
on That's the reason why they keep talking abortion, abortion, abortion, abortion, abortion,
(07:35):
because they realize that that's a message that is resonating
with single women. And single black women are the ones
that are are trying to drive the black community into
going towards the Democratic Party. But the reality is that men,
on the other hand, they're starting to see the Democratic
Party's bs.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
For what it is.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I'll tell you the barbershop that I go to. It's
in Del Passel Heights here in Sacramento, California. It's for
lack of a better term, it's a black barbershop. And
I was in there. I was in there just two
weeks ago and was talking with the dude who was
sitting in the chair, and he's like, he said, he's
voting for Donald Trump because quote unquote, his pockets were
fatter under Donald Trump. In other words, he recognized economic
(08:18):
opportunity under Donald Trump. Right, he was able to prosper
and do more and be more successful, and therefore he
was going to be voting for Donald Trump. People are
starting to wake up. Not everybody is, but some people
they're taking the red bill.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
All right, Well, listen, Craig, I'm going to have you back.
I really enjoyed chatting with you. I appreciate you Project
twenty one. I want to be a member, Craig lose
dy louse rather, I'm sorry. Thank you so much for
being with me.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
It's a pleasure to be with you, sir,
Craig Delouze joins us now, who is Project twenty one's
ambassador and almost thirty years in public policy and advocacy. Craig,
welcome in, Thanks for being here.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
It's a pleasure to be with you. All.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Right, before we start talking about Kamala Harris, let's talk
about Project twenty one.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
What is Project twenty one.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Well, you know, if you were to listen to the
mainstream media and entertainment industry, you believe that all members
of the black community or Black Americans think the exact
same way, when in reality, there's a diaspora of thought
from the liberal of the liberal to the conservative of
the conservative. And Project twenty one is dedicated to try
and help get the voices out of those who are conservative,
(00:39):
those who believe that America is exceptional, those who believe
in the right to the right to keep in bare arms,
those who believe in free market economies, those who believe
in the right to life, and really kind of promoted
their messages experts in areas across across the diaspa once again, education, economic, law, enforcement,
(01:01):
and really kind of make sure those voices get out there,
not only to help not only to help conservatives understand
how our values impact a lot of urban communities or
people of color, but also to help the mainstream media
understand that, you know, we don't all think alike.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
All right, I want to get your thoughts on Donald
Trump's comment at this, you know event that took place
in Chicago, the National Association of Black Journalists, where he
questioned Kamala's position on is she black, is she Jamaican?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Does she come from Indian? You know, her.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Heritage and nationality? And he said, look, one time she's
saying she's Indian and all about that, and now she's
saying she's a black woman. And you know, oh, you know,
the grine Jean Pierre in the White House just up
in arms calling it.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Disgusting and offensive.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
And I mean, your thoughts on Donald Trump bringing this
to the front, you know, stage as a lot of
people are thinking the same thing.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I think it was a mist I think, you know,
she went to a black university. Now granted, she spent
her formative years in Canada at a prep school in
one of the richest communities there in Canada, you know,
but having said that, you know, the black family is
full of examples of diversity of inclusion, of other cultures.
(02:21):
I think going after that is just a mistake on
behalf of the president. I think he needs to focus
on her policies because that's what's really there. The reality
is her policies are bad, and that's what he needs
to be focusing on. I think this is a distraction.
I think he handed them the distraction because otherwise, as
he addressed her, as he addressed the questions, which, by
(02:43):
the way, with the exception of Harris Faulkner, the person
from ABC News, was completely and utterly rude, and I
think he was responding to a certain degree in kind
and was very rude back, and you know, he gave
as good as he got, but it was very frustrating
because his answers on the issues were solid. He just
(03:05):
gave them something to be distracted away from.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah, here's a little snippet of that little confrontation with
that ABC reporter on stage with Donald Trump yesterday at
the National Association of Black Journalists. She's a little aggressive.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Listen.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Some of your own supporters, including Republicans on Capitol Hill,
have labeled Vice President Kamala Harris, who was the first
black and Asian American woman to serve as vice president
and be on a major party ticket as a DEI hire?
Is that acceptable language to you? And will you tell
those Republicans and those supporters to stop it?
Speaker 5 (03:35):
How do you how do you define DEI?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Go ahead?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
How do you define diversity?
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Equity inclusion?
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Okay, yeah, go ahead? Is that what your definition?
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Give that is?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
That is? Give me a definition?
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Then would you give me a definition?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (03:47):
Yeah, give me a definition, Sar'ah'm asking you a quiement.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Direct the define it from me?
Speaker 4 (03:52):
If I just defined it?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Sir?
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Do you believe that Vice President Kamala Harris is only
on the ticket because she is a black woman?
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Well, I can say no. I think it's maybe a
little bit different. So I've known her a long time
indirect laim not direct lane very much, and she was
always of Indian heritage, and she was only promoting Indian heritage.
I didn't know she was black.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
All right?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
With that said there, and we talked about the fact
that he brought up, you know what heritage she is
the DEI thing. Do you believe that there's a part
of that in the factor. As far as how her
advancements have gone from the beginning, I.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Can't necessarily speak to her becoming the becoming denominee. But
if you look at it, Joe Biden himself both before
he nominated her and apper he nominated her first of all,
before he nominator said he said he was only looking
at black women. So if you're only looking at black women,
that means that you are elevating race above all else.
(04:51):
Right and by the way, above all el race and
gender above all else, that includes merit. So yeah, by definite,
that by definition, that is DEI. That's what DEI does, right, right,
That's how she became a vice president. And then he
praised her as he was talking about diversity, equity inclusion,
(05:11):
praised her as basically, that's the reason why he hired her,
that's the reason why he made her the vice president.
So she can't, I mean, she doesn't get to pretend
that's not the case. My question is this, If diversity,
equity and inclusion is such a good thing, if it's
a thing that we all should be aspiring to, both
in corporations and in private and in private government and
(05:32):
in government public public office, well then why are you insulted?
Why does it bother you? And I know why it
bothers them because the insinuation is is that something other
than merit was the primary reason they were placed in
that position. And I'm like that, if you want merit
to be the number one thing to be, you want
(05:54):
to be known for the number one thing is merit,
then how about you not elevate other things above merit?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Amen? Amen? Amen?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
And you know you saw Kringe Jean Pierre when they
had a couple of people leave the White House staff,
and she flat out came right out and said, the
first thing we're going to be looking at black female
LGBTQ before we jump into any other qualification. And that
messaging coming from the White House is just atrocious.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Well and coming from the worst press recretary in American history.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Amen. Amen.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
All right, as a black man yourself, what are your
thoughts on Kamala Harrison, White dudes for Kamala and all
of this. You know I'm hearing time and time again,
pandering is all the Democrats do. I mean, Charles Barkley
has said it a hundred times. The only time I
hear from Democratic candidates is you know, election year, and
then they get elected and then they go away. Your
thoughts on the black community swinging more towards Conservatism.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Well, I will tell you, and it's really kind of
a divide because if you really look at it, the
number one group other than the Black community that supports
Democrats and Joe Biden Kamala Harris are single childless women
or single women. Right, if you look at the numbers,
overall men are swinging significantly to the right. Right. Single
(07:12):
men as well are swinging significantly to the right. If
you look at women, women as a whole have swung
to the left. Married women are pretty much fifty to fifty,
but single women have overwhelmingly over the last decade swung
towards the left, and the left has worked to capitalize
on That's the reason why they keep talking abortion, abortion, abortion, abortion, abortion,
(07:35):
because they realize that that's a message that is resonating
with single women. And single black women are the ones
that are are trying to drive the black community into
going towards the Democratic Party. But the reality is that men,
on the other hand, they're starting to see the Democratic
Party's bs.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
For what it is.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I'll tell you the barbershop that I go to. It's
in Del Passel Heights here in Sacramento, California. It's for
lack of a better term, it's a black barbershop. And
I was in there. I was in there just two
weeks ago and was talking with the dude who was
sitting in the chair, and he's like, he said, he's
voting for Donald Trump because quote unquote, his pockets were
fatter under Donald Trump. In other words, he recognized economic
(08:18):
opportunity under Donald Trump. Right, he was able to prosper
and do more and be more successful, and therefore he
was going to be voting for Donald Trump. People are
starting to wake up. Not everybody is, but some people
they're taking the red bill.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
All right, Well, listen, Craig, I'm going to have you back.
I really enjoyed chatting with you. I appreciate you Project
twenty one. I want to be a member, Craig lose
dy louse rather, I'm sorry. Thank you so much for
being with me.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
It's a pleasure to be with you, sir,
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