Retired Sheriff Mark Lamb on Trump's Big Beautiful Bill

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Retired chair of Mark Lamb from Panel County and Arizona
is back with us. Mark. Welcome in, Thanks for being.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Here, Thanks for having me on. I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Yeah. I miss our get together as at the Federation
for American Immigration Reforms hold their Feet to the Fire
event we used to do with you guys in DC.
That was always good and it's always great to chat
with you. So I wanted to get your thoughts. Now,
it's been a while since we caught up, and it's
been a while since the Biden administration's craziness at the
border was going on, and well things have certainly changed

(00:29):
in this big, beautiful Bill Act now officially being signed
into law. I wanted to see what your thoughts were
going to be on how this is going to affect immigration,
our border and ice and everything moving forward that the
President was mandated to take action on with his election.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah, just so that people have a little bit of background,
Like it was a complete disaster for four years. It
changed immediately even before they took office, this Trump administration,
it started to change and then we saw a significant
we just continue to see significant decline in the numbers.
I think the last month was down to about six thousand.

(01:05):
The Big Beautiful Bill is still we still need to
codify some stuff in the law. But the Big Beautiful
Bill is going to allow these guys to continue to
build the wall, which absolutely needs to happen. There's like
forty six billion dollars for that. It's got surveillance technology.
I do some work with a company that does fiber

(01:26):
lines underneath the ground and they can actually go vertically
and horizontally, so they can't tunnel into the ground. We've
got to have all that. There's money for that. There's
money for more border patrol agents. So while we were
on the right track, this money gets us even further
down the track. And now the next step is for
Congress and Senate to pass and codify good immigration law.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah yeah, And we were never against legal immigration in
this country, and that seems to be the Democratic spin.
We're just inhumane in the Republican Party and we don't
want to help people. It's you know, it's always that
spin and has nothing to do with that. It's about
following federal laws that are already in the books and
doing it the right way. In our country, we are
a nation built on immigrants, so to say, that we're

(02:11):
anti immigration in the Republican Party, and this president hates
anybody coming to the country that's not you know, what
we're all about here in the United States. It's craziness.
So with this money you're talking about and everything being codified.
I remember having conversations with the ranchers as well that
are right there along the border, and the fear that
they were constantly and having to, you know, teach their

(02:32):
teenage grandchildren how to use weapons, you know, not for
you know, shooting deer, target practicing and just learning how
to work with weapons because you're on a ranch, but
it became almost a reason of survival. You know, you
got to train up son because you don't know what's
going to be walking in this house. I mean, how horrifying.
And I'm sure you went through some of those stories

(02:53):
nightmarage stories with ranchers there as well.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
I imagine there's not American out there who wants to have
one hundred a thousand people walking through their property every day,
and not just people military age men coming from Africa,
from China, from all over the world. There's not a
single American that would sign off to have all those

(03:16):
people walking through their property. Well, that's what these ranchers
and people that live close to the border. Even in
my county where they you know, these illegals have net
walked fifty sixty miles, we still had ranchers and farmers,
and they're like, if we call the cops on these guys,
then they'll destroy our stuff. So we just have to
just end the cops won't come and get them anyway,

(03:38):
and so or the border patrol won't come and get
them anyway. So it was it was a complete disaster
for them. They were beside themselves. They were so angry
with the Biden administration, and all they wanted was for
somebody to protect their properties, which is they have every
right as an American citizen to want that. And you're right,
we don't. We want legal immigration. None of these people

(04:01):
up there, none of these leftists that call us names
because they're losing the argument, none of them were down
here bandaging the feet of the people that were coming across,
or giving them I these to save their lives, or
helping them, or pulling them off mountains when they were
left behind by the cartels for dead. Not a single
one of them was down here. So I don't want

(04:21):
to hear them preach to me about what is humane,
because not a single one of them was here doing
what we were doing.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Well, thank God for your work and what you've done
over the years, and thank you so much for being
with me for the update, and let's stay in touch
on all of this as well. Mark Lamb, a retired
sheriff there in Padel County, Arizona,