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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Our corresponding Roy O'Neil, have been following what's happening with
a shutdown as in to explain a couple of different things. Roy,
good morning, welcome in, thank you for being here.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Sure, JT, good morning.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
All right, So the senators said, all right, we're out fighting.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
We're going to take a long weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
That's great. Meanwhile, you know Snap's ending. The government shutdown continues,
and we're making zero progress, and the Democrats are just saying, man,
who gives we're holding this whole thing, you know, hostage here.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Now.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
President Trump says he was thinking about this whole thing
on the way back from his Asian trape, and hey,
you know what about the nuclear move? Why don't we
just get this done? Do it now? Get rid of
the filibuster. Can you please explain this as if I'm
a fifth grader on how they can pull this nuke move?
What's the process? How do they just pull the Trump
(00:44):
card out and say, fine, if you're going to be
this way, Schumer and Democrats, here's what we're doing, and
just go blast through it and get her done. I mean,
how does this work?
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Well, the filibuster is there to protect the minority, right,
and we all know mister Smith goes to Washington.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I hope we do. Jimmy Stewart talking forever.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
But you need sixty votes in order to close debate
on anything in the Senate, and that's where we get
this filibuster rule. You can stand up and keep this
on the floor as long as you can stay standing,
but eventually you know someone's going to give in. But
to close debate on a matter, you have to get
that sixty vote. So it's there to protect the minority
voice and to force negotiation.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
No one's talking in all of this.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
I understand the Democrats are being rigid and not giving
into the continuing resolution, which they had agreed to plenty
of times in the past. But the House also left town,
so there's no talking there. This is supposed to be
a deliberative body, and there's nothing being deliberated because both
sides are still too far apart.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Okay, So what's Donald tru So what's Donald Trump saying
should be done? And can it be done?
Speaker 4 (01:53):
So Donald Trump is saying, get rid of the sixty rule, essentially,
get rid of the filibusters so a simple majority.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Can pass things in the Senate.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Okay, how do you get rid of.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
That, that could be that would be the decision of
the Senate Majority leader, who only would I think, need
a simple majority in the Senate in order to make
the rule change, which, of course fifty three senators, right,
they might have.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I don't mean to keep interrupting you, but I got
a little bit of time. I just want to get
to the boat points on.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Let's say the Senate Majority leader decides to do that. Okay,
and he says, all right, we're doing it. So that's it,
it's over, and the government's back open. I mean, is
it that drastic of a move? And what's the downside?
Speaker 4 (02:32):
So if the Senate Majority leader, who is an institutionalist,
he likes the filibuster. But if you were to say, fine,
no more filibuster, that means anything can pass with just
a simple majority of fifty votes, and then you get
the Vice president to break a time necessary so they
could do that.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
That's possible.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
But then it's a bit more of the wild swings
as to what's going on in the rest of the country,
and it sort of is that cooling effect to force
that sixty vote. So in theory, if they say get
rid of the philibuster, then it goes to a full
vote on the Continuing Resolution. The majority of Senators would
then be enough to pass the CR so the government
(03:10):
could reopen. So it would be a one two step Okay,
get rid of the philibuster voting.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
If they do that, is that get rid of the
philibuster for the rest of time or until the Democrats
take over again and bring it back.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I mean, what's the downside if they.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Do that, right, it would likely be for the rest
of time. It's one of those things that you nibble
away at it and once it's gone, it's gone. So
that's that's the hook.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
So the downside is it could be used against the
Republicans in the future.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Right, and we've had seen carveouts like this before. It
used to be that you needed majorities and filibuster things
like nominations, and look, Democrats got burnt. They changed the
rule to force their nominees through. Then when it comes
to the Supreme Court nominees, Donald Trump had, ahaha, we
don't need sixty we only need the majority. So now
the Republicans win on that side.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
So long term, I don't know, you know, it's going
to come back to bite you.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
You know, there's a it to me that says, oh great,
right now, it'd be wonderful short term. But I'm thinking,
you know, I don't. I'm not one hundred percent pro
pulling this move, are you?
Speaker 4 (04:09):
I wouldn't mind pulling that move if they were debating.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
They're not even talking. They're not in session.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
It's not as if we're going back and forth with
different ideas to get our way out of this.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Nothing is happening. You know, there is no House in session.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
They can't change the one CR that's now before the Senate,
so nothing is changed the House and they.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Ca this is a house build that's been approved, it's
gone to the Senate. It's not really in the Senate's hands, right,
But so say.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
The Senate, Okay, right now, the CR would extend would
run out November twenty first, So now it only last
three weeks. Let's say they want to make it December
fifteenth and give them a couple more weeks. Well, you'd
have to call the House back in session now to
pass it. So even those kinds of little changes, well,
that's that's my boy. So even well, that's why we're
not even having a discussion right now of any back
(04:57):
and forth because one chamber is out and the other
one is just stuck voting on the same thing.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
You know, I got to tell you.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
I mean, the Republicans are ready to have this discussion,
but they are not going to be held hostage like
it's some kind of ransom note coming in from Schumer.
I mean, it's ridiculous. Get the government open, let's sit down.
How many times does Mike Johnson have to say and
Senator Thune, We're ready to talk about what you want
to talk about, Schumer, but we're not coming in until
you get the government open for the American people.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Then let's go sit down and talk about this.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
I mean, it's kind of ludicrous on what Schumer's really
digging its heels on. Supply and Obamacare subsidies for people
that don't deserve them, and they're illegal in this country.
I mean, it's just it's such a Democrat move.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
One of the things they're waiting for is the fact
that those Obamacare renewals start tomorrow, and a lot of
people are just figuring out when I say they are
waiting forwards the Democrats, So a lot of people are
getting the sticker shocks starting today and tomorrow as they
figure out what next year's bill is going to be.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Man, I'll tell you what you know based on all this,
I don't see an in insight on this.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
And something's got to give here next week.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Yeah, And I think we're hearing rumblings even from Democrats
saying something's got to give next week. So it looks
because look, a lot of people just went a whole
month without a paycheck, and the rent is.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Due tomorrow, and it's only getting worse in a ripple
effect's going to start effecting thousands of more people. Not
to mention, people are going to be starving here real
soon and running out of decisions, power bill or medicines
or food. I mean it's real, forty two million people. Look,
I mean it's got to give, all right, Roy, Thank you, buddy.
You have a great weekend. I appreciate you.
Our corresponding Roy O'Neil, have been following what's happening with
a shutdown as in to explain a couple of different things. Roy,
good morning, welcome in, thank you for being here.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Sure, JT, good morning.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
All right, So the senators said, all right, we're out fighting.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
We're going to take a long weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
That's great. Meanwhile, you know Snap's ending. The government shutdown continues,
and we're making zero progress, and the Democrats are just saying, man,
who gives we're holding this whole thing, you know, hostage here.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Now.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
President Trump says he was thinking about this whole thing
on the way back from his Asian trape, and hey,
you know what about the nuclear move? Why don't we
just get this done? Do it now? Get rid of
the filibuster. Can you please explain this as if I'm
a fifth grader on how they can pull this nuke move?
What's the process? How do they just pull the Trump
(00:44):
card out and say, fine, if you're going to be
this way, Schumer and Democrats, here's what we're doing, and
just go blast through it and get her done. I mean,
how does this work?
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Well, the filibuster is there to protect the minority, right,
and we all know mister Smith goes to Washington.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I hope we do. Jimmy Stewart talking forever.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
But you need sixty votes in order to close debate
on anything in the Senate, and that's where we get
this filibuster rule. You can stand up and keep this
on the floor as long as you can stay standing,
but eventually you know someone's going to give in. But
to close debate on a matter, you have to get
that sixty vote. So it's there to protect the minority
voice and to force negotiation.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
No one's talking in all of this.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
I understand the Democrats are being rigid and not giving
into the continuing resolution, which they had agreed to plenty
of times in the past. But the House also left town,
so there's no talking there. This is supposed to be
a deliberative body, and there's nothing being deliberated because both
sides are still too far apart.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Okay, So what's Donald tru So what's Donald Trump saying
should be done? And can it be done?
Speaker 4 (01:53):
So Donald Trump is saying, get rid of the sixty rule, essentially,
get rid of the filibusters so a simple majority.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Can pass things in the Senate.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Okay, how do you get rid of.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
That, that could be that would be the decision of
the Senate Majority leader, who only would I think, need
a simple majority in the Senate in order to make
the rule change, which, of course fifty three senators, right,
they might have.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I don't mean to keep interrupting you, but I got
a little bit of time. I just want to get
to the boat points on.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Let's say the Senate Majority leader decides to do that. Okay,
and he says, all right, we're doing it. So that's it,
it's over, and the government's back open. I mean, is
it that drastic of a move? And what's the downside?
Speaker 4 (02:32):
So if the Senate Majority leader, who is an institutionalist,
he likes the filibuster. But if you were to say, fine,
no more filibuster, that means anything can pass with just
a simple majority of fifty votes, and then you get
the Vice president to break a time necessary so they
could do that.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
That's possible.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
But then it's a bit more of the wild swings
as to what's going on in the rest of the country,
and it sort of is that cooling effect to force
that sixty vote. So in theory, if they say get
rid of the philibuster, then it goes to a full
vote on the Continuing Resolution. The majority of Senators would
then be enough to pass the CR so the government
(03:10):
could reopen. So it would be a one two step Okay,
get rid of the philibuster voting.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
If they do that, is that get rid of the
philibuster for the rest of time or until the Democrats
take over again and bring it back.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I mean, what's the downside if they.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Do that, right, it would likely be for the rest
of time. It's one of those things that you nibble
away at it and once it's gone, it's gone. So
that's that's the hook.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
So the downside is it could be used against the
Republicans in the future.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Right, and we've had seen carveouts like this before. It
used to be that you needed majorities and filibuster things
like nominations, and look, Democrats got burnt. They changed the
rule to force their nominees through. Then when it comes
to the Supreme Court nominees, Donald Trump had, ahaha, we
don't need sixty we only need the majority. So now
the Republicans win on that side.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
So long term, I don't know, you know, it's going
to come back to bite you.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
You know, there's a it to me that says, oh great,
right now, it'd be wonderful short term. But I'm thinking,
you know, I don't. I'm not one hundred percent pro
pulling this move, are you?
Speaker 4 (04:09):
I wouldn't mind pulling that move if they were debating.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
They're not even talking. They're not in session.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
It's not as if we're going back and forth with
different ideas to get our way out of this.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Nothing is happening. You know, there is no House in session.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
They can't change the one CR that's now before the Senate,
so nothing is changed the House and they.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Ca this is a house build that's been approved, it's
gone to the Senate. It's not really in the Senate's hands, right,
But so say.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
The Senate, Okay, right now, the CR would extend would
run out November twenty first, So now it only last
three weeks. Let's say they want to make it December
fifteenth and give them a couple more weeks. Well, you'd
have to call the House back in session now to
pass it. So even those kinds of little changes, well,
that's that's my boy. So even well, that's why we're
not even having a discussion right now of any back
(04:57):
and forth because one chamber is out and the other
one is just stuck voting on the same thing.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
You know, I got to tell you.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
I mean, the Republicans are ready to have this discussion,
but they are not going to be held hostage like
it's some kind of ransom note coming in from Schumer.
I mean, it's ridiculous. Get the government open, let's sit down.
How many times does Mike Johnson have to say and
Senator Thune, We're ready to talk about what you want
to talk about, Schumer, but we're not coming in until
you get the government open for the American people.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Then let's go sit down and talk about this.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
I mean, it's kind of ludicrous on what Schumer's really
digging its heels on. Supply and Obamacare subsidies for people
that don't deserve them, and they're illegal in this country.
I mean, it's just it's such a Democrat move.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
One of the things they're waiting for is the fact
that those Obamacare renewals start tomorrow, and a lot of
people are just figuring out when I say they are
waiting forwards the Democrats, So a lot of people are
getting the sticker shocks starting today and tomorrow as they
figure out what next year's bill is going to be.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Man, I'll tell you what you know based on all this,
I don't see an in insight on this.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
And something's got to give here next week.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Yeah, And I think we're hearing rumblings even from Democrats
saying something's got to give next week. So it looks
because look, a lot of people just went a whole
month without a paycheck, and the rent is.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Due tomorrow, and it's only getting worse in a ripple
effect's going to start effecting thousands of more people. Not
to mention, people are going to be starving here real
soon and running out of decisions, power bill or medicines
or food. I mean it's real, forty two million people. Look,
I mean it's got to give, all right, Roy, Thank you, buddy.
You have a great weekend. I appreciate you.
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