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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Steven rab who is the author the critically acclaimed and
best selling book The Founder Speech to a Nation in Crisis,
No doubt about that. Steven, welcome back in thanks for
being here.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Good morning, JT, thanks to be here.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Well.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
As we've seen and dissected in Monday Morning Quarterback, the
attempted assassination of Donald Trump, now every which way but loose,
it seems that the answers that are coming are not really,
you know, the ones we want, or certainly not enough
of an answer, you know, to the probing that we
need your thoughts. Let's start with the duty the you know,
(00:34):
Secret Service. Did they live up to that? Ivy obviously
would say at this point, probably not, because it took place.
So your thoughts on the beginning of all of this
and what should have happened and didn't.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Happen, Well, clearly, the Secret Service has one mission and
that is to protectee and they've failed in that mission.
But maybe the failure that's just as big, maybe bigger than,
is the lack of responsible ability that they are taking
for this. It's clear to me that there has got
to be a third party investigation into the Secret Service,
(01:09):
someone from outside looking at this because they are looking
at the actual events from the ground. What was missed,
then that certainly has to happen, but that is just
that's the very last drop of the failure, the systemic
failure that took place in the months and years leading
up to that is what we have to really get
(01:31):
our arms around here, because this has not happen overnight
or even in a three minute period. This happens the
failure takes years to happen, and that's what we have
to get our arms around. It's really tragic to see
the lack of responsibility being taken that there's no one
(01:52):
standing up saying we did we failed here, we failed here,
we failed here. That it seems to be a finger
pointing at the local officers versus the I mean, it's
ridiculous to me that something that's important as this that
we don't have people standing up. I think about World
(02:12):
War two and.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Some of this.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I mean yesterday, Rose says. The director says, yes, this,
interim director says, he's hurt for his agency, he's hurt
for his people, He's hurt talking about feelings, the feelings
of I just imagine going to a general patent after
the loss of a battle and talking about how how
hurt the feelings are of the soldiers who lost that battle,
(02:36):
and what a patent's response would be to to that.
Why we're talking about how hurt and upset we are
at our failure versus the how and the why of
our failure.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Right, And we saw director Cheadle obviously resigned, but it
took a minute for that ripen and she called it,
you know, catastrophic failure. And now you've got the acting
director Roe saying, look, yeah, the buckstops here as well
with her and me. He says he was pretty close
to his second in command as far as this event
(03:11):
and making sure things were buttoned up. It's not like
he's a sergeant and you know behind a general. He
was right there next to her as far as responsibility
on this event and getting things lined up. So why
do you think that they're so dodging of questions right
now when you know they've got more information and understand
(03:32):
the picture and it's clearer to them behind the scenes
is exactly what happened. Why isn't somebody just stepping up
and going, you know what, here's what's really going on.
It reminds me at some point of Jack Nicholson when
he finally breaks and says, you can't handle the truth.
You know, they got they've got the truth and they
don't nobody's gonna bring it until they're pushed to the
(03:55):
mat and they're gasping for air. Either give us the
truth or it's going to get worse, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
I mean, they're just they don't want to. But why, Well.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
The more the more they talk, the more you realize
who their actual protect ee is. It is not the president.
It is their careers and their reputation that is the protectee.
What they are protecting is their future, their personal future,
not the truth. They're they're not interested in getting to.
The failure was so catastrophic that to admit the truth
(04:31):
is to admit all kinds of things that they just
can't simply admit that they're hiring practices or failed that
they have been applying a dei mentality in their training
and hiring and in their assignment of roles to different
to actually come up with the protect the plan for
an event, and that in doing this that created a
(04:56):
massive failure. I mean, that's certainly one of the reasons
they're going to be in twenty more reasons why there
was massive failure, But all of those point back to
we believed stupid ideas. We made terrible choices, and that
reflects badly on us, and what we believe to be
true wasn't true. So it takes a well, it takes
(05:19):
an incredible amount of responsibility and a sense of duty,
a duty beyond ourselves. And this is this is why
I write the books The Founder's Speech series that I
write is about the character of Americans, the ethos of
our country, the founding of our country, and the principles
were built on. And this is some of the downstream
(05:39):
of that. When duty and responsibility for who we are
as people owning our lives, owning our actions, when we
start to see everything every problem for an event or
an outcome is someone else's fault. It's society's fault, it's
not me. When we've lost our ability to man up
(06:02):
and be truthful, that way, well, it plays out in
all kinds of bad ways. This is an evident one,
but a lot a lot more than just this, And
that's to me, if we're going to save In one
of the books is called the Founder's Speech to Save America,
and one of the chapters in that is called Foundations.
One of the foundations of Western civilization and the foundations
(06:23):
of us as human beings is that is character. And
the founders believe that teaching our children character was paramount,
in fact, more important than teaching them science and math.
Is teaching them to be good and to pursue truth
and beauty and to understand what that means. That that's
our role as parents and as a society.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
We've lost that.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
We've lost that, and now we see the downstream effects
of losing that.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
It's the whipification of America. How long ago did all
of this start? Where did it turn? Because you mentioned
General pat and you go back to leaders in the
United States, States and presidents, and you know the character
of this nation. How far back does it go? Is
it before Obama? The deep state, the wimpification of everything
in the wave of liberalism and socialism?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
When did all of this start to turn in the
wrong direction?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Well, I mean, you can go pretty far back, right,
You can go back into the ideas of Marxism in
the eighteen hundreds, right and see those ideas emerge and
the secularization of our world, the dismissing of Christianity as
the foundation of Western civilization in our society. You can
start to see those cracks when you dismiss the faith
(07:40):
of the people, when you have an opening ceremony that
openly mocks and you think that that's okay to openly
mock what has been the foundation of our civilization and
has lifted more people out of tyranny and slavery than
any other civilization ever has. And yet we're going to
openly mock that. And we are we are in that civilization,
(08:02):
mocking that very civilization. You know, you're in trouble. And
that's that's what we're seeing happen. And it's you know,
it's it is on us, those of us who still
believe in this civilization, who believe that Christianity is the
foundation of it, to reclaim it. And at reclaiming it
starts with our education and the teaching of our children,
which sounds simple, but it is. You know, we have
(08:25):
kind of watched, we talked about how we fix this.
We have watched the government take over the teaching of
our children. We have outsourced the teaching of our children
to the government.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Well, it's Stephen, you know, you're right.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
And when we come off the rock of a relationship
with God and not following his principles and what He
has planned for our lives. It's pretty clear the playbook
of our life from God is the Bible. And when
we come off of that rock and start making our
own decisions on the feelings and moving into with the
thought of the day on how we ought to live
(09:01):
in what's accepted and being kind, and you know, we
come off the direction that God has planned for us.
There's no no doubt. This society is failing and you
hit the nail on the head. That is the bottom
line right now. Steven rab thank you for being with me, buddy.
I appreciate you. We'll have you back.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Thank you.
Steven rab who is the author the critically acclaimed and
best selling book The Founder Speech to a Nation in Crisis,
No doubt about that. Steven, welcome back in thanks for
being here.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Good morning, JT, thanks to be here.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Well.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
As we've seen and dissected in Monday Morning Quarterback, the
attempted assassination of Donald Trump, now every which way but loose,
it seems that the answers that are coming are not really,
you know, the ones we want, or certainly not enough
of an answer, you know, to the probing that we
need your thoughts. Let's start with the duty the you know,
(00:34):
Secret Service. Did they live up to that? Ivy obviously
would say at this point, probably not, because it took place.
So your thoughts on the beginning of all of this
and what should have happened and didn't.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Happen, Well, clearly, the Secret Service has one mission and
that is to protectee and they've failed in that mission.
But maybe the failure that's just as big, maybe bigger than,
is the lack of responsible ability that they are taking
for this. It's clear to me that there has got
to be a third party investigation into the Secret Service,
(01:09):
someone from outside looking at this because they are looking
at the actual events from the ground. What was missed,
then that certainly has to happen, but that is just
that's the very last drop of the failure, the systemic
failure that took place in the months and years leading
up to that is what we have to really get
(01:31):
our arms around here, because this has not happen overnight
or even in a three minute period. This happens the
failure takes years to happen, and that's what we have
to get our arms around. It's really tragic to see
the lack of responsibility being taken that there's no one
(01:52):
standing up saying we did we failed here, we failed here,
we failed here. That it seems to be a finger
pointing at the local officers versus the I mean, it's
ridiculous to me that something that's important as this that
we don't have people standing up. I think about World
(02:12):
War two and.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Some of this.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I mean yesterday, Rose says. The director says, yes, this,
interim director says, he's hurt for his agency, he's hurt
for his people, He's hurt talking about feelings, the feelings
of I just imagine going to a general patent after
the loss of a battle and talking about how how
hurt the feelings are of the soldiers who lost that battle,
(02:36):
and what a patent's response would be to to that.
Why we're talking about how hurt and upset we are
at our failure versus the how and the why of
our failure.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Right, And we saw director Cheadle obviously resigned, but it
took a minute for that ripen and she called it,
you know, catastrophic failure. And now you've got the acting
director Roe saying, look, yeah, the buckstops here as well
with her and me. He says he was pretty close
to his second in command as far as this event
(03:11):
and making sure things were buttoned up. It's not like
he's a sergeant and you know behind a general. He
was right there next to her as far as responsibility
on this event and getting things lined up. So why
do you think that they're so dodging of questions right
now when you know they've got more information and understand
(03:32):
the picture and it's clearer to them behind the scenes
is exactly what happened. Why isn't somebody just stepping up
and going, you know what, here's what's really going on.
It reminds me at some point of Jack Nicholson when
he finally breaks and says, you can't handle the truth.
You know, they got they've got the truth and they
don't nobody's gonna bring it until they're pushed to the
(03:55):
mat and they're gasping for air. Either give us the
truth or it's going to get worse, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
I mean, they're just they don't want to. But why, Well.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
The more the more they talk, the more you realize
who their actual protect ee is. It is not the president.
It is their careers and their reputation that is the protectee.
What they are protecting is their future, their personal future,
not the truth. They're they're not interested in getting to.
The failure was so catastrophic that to admit the truth
(04:31):
is to admit all kinds of things that they just
can't simply admit that they're hiring practices or failed that
they have been applying a dei mentality in their training
and hiring and in their assignment of roles to different
to actually come up with the protect the plan for
an event, and that in doing this that created a
(04:56):
massive failure. I mean, that's certainly one of the reasons
they're going to be in twenty more reasons why there
was massive failure, But all of those point back to
we believed stupid ideas. We made terrible choices, and that
reflects badly on us, and what we believe to be
true wasn't true. So it takes a well, it takes
(05:19):
an incredible amount of responsibility and a sense of duty,
a duty beyond ourselves. And this is this is why
I write the books The Founder's Speech series that I
write is about the character of Americans, the ethos of
our country, the founding of our country, and the principles
were built on. And this is some of the downstream
(05:39):
of that. When duty and responsibility for who we are
as people owning our lives, owning our actions, when we
start to see everything every problem for an event or
an outcome is someone else's fault. It's society's fault, it's
not me. When we've lost our ability to man up
(06:02):
and be truthful, that way, well, it plays out in
all kinds of bad ways. This is an evident one,
but a lot a lot more than just this, And
that's to me, if we're going to save In one
of the books is called the Founder's Speech to Save America,
and one of the chapters in that is called Foundations.
One of the foundations of Western civilization and the foundations
(06:23):
of us as human beings is that is character. And
the founders believe that teaching our children character was paramount,
in fact, more important than teaching them science and math.
Is teaching them to be good and to pursue truth
and beauty and to understand what that means. That that's
our role as parents and as a society.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
We've lost that.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
We've lost that, and now we see the downstream effects
of losing that.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
It's the whipification of America. How long ago did all
of this start? Where did it turn? Because you mentioned
General pat and you go back to leaders in the
United States, States and presidents, and you know the character
of this nation. How far back does it go? Is
it before Obama? The deep state, the wimpification of everything
in the wave of liberalism and socialism?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
When did all of this start to turn in the
wrong direction?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Well, I mean, you can go pretty far back, right,
You can go back into the ideas of Marxism in
the eighteen hundreds, right and see those ideas emerge and
the secularization of our world, the dismissing of Christianity as
the foundation of Western civilization in our society. You can
start to see those cracks when you dismiss the faith
(07:40):
of the people, when you have an opening ceremony that
openly mocks and you think that that's okay to openly
mock what has been the foundation of our civilization and
has lifted more people out of tyranny and slavery than
any other civilization ever has. And yet we're going to
openly mock that. And we are we are in that civilization,
(08:02):
mocking that very civilization. You know, you're in trouble. And
that's that's what we're seeing happen. And it's you know,
it's it is on us, those of us who still
believe in this civilization, who believe that Christianity is the
foundation of it, to reclaim it. And at reclaiming it
starts with our education and the teaching of our children,
which sounds simple, but it is. You know, we have
(08:25):
kind of watched, we talked about how we fix this.
We have watched the government take over the teaching of
our children. We have outsourced the teaching of our children
to the government.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Well, it's Stephen, you know, you're right.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
And when we come off the rock of a relationship
with God and not following his principles and what He
has planned for our lives. It's pretty clear the playbook
of our life from God is the Bible. And when
we come off of that rock and start making our
own decisions on the feelings and moving into with the
thought of the day on how we ought to live
(09:01):
in what's accepted and being kind, and you know, we
come off the direction that God has planned for us.
There's no no doubt. This society is failing and you
hit the nail on the head. That is the bottom
line right now. Steven rab thank you for being with me, buddy.
I appreciate you. We'll have you back.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Thank you.
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