May 30, 2026 • 42 mins
Gary spoke with callers about how to get rid of wood-boring bees and the importance of regular roof maintenance. He also discussed the benefits of using a product called Roof Restore, which can extend the life of a roof by up to 15 years. This innovative solution is a game-changer for homeowners who want to avoid costly roof replacements.
One caller shared a clever trick for getting rid of wood-boring bees by simulating a wasp nest, while another discussed the challenges of dealing with rabbits in their yard. Meanwhile, Gary spoke with Dave Beckett, the owner of Roof Restore, about how his company's product can help homeowners extend the life of their roofs. With a range of topics covered, this episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to improve their home.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, best part of the day.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
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You're at home with Gary Salvian taking you through another weekend,
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let's get to work. Our phone number I just gave
you you can grab a line and we have Glenn Glenn.
Welcome Gary.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Yes, I heard a lady. A lady was calling about
she thought she had etched some windows with crud cutter
and I had the same thing happened. I was cleaning
the ladies win gutters actually with crud cutter and has
some dripped on the window. And tried everything I could,
all kinds of cleaners. Finally I called the eight hundred
(01:19):
number as you recommended, but they put me onto a
product called made by car Care Products. It's called Dura
Gloss seven fifty five and the other name on the
bottle is new Glass in you Dash Glass. And it
it took me. I thought the windows were ruined, but
(01:41):
it took the film or that what I thought was etching.
It took that off. I that she's still listening.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, so tell me again. Its Dura seven six five five.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Dura d u r A gloss seven fifty five, okay,
And it looks like it's made by car Care Products
and on the other side of the labels as new
Glass in you Dash Glass.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
And it took it took the film or etching off
of it.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Really, so I got a couple of questions on the
on the cruck cutter product is and I wasn't real sure.
Do they make a spray on glass cleaner?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Is that what it was that you used?
Speaker 3 (02:27):
No, this this was just straight crud cutter. And I
was diluted it and was spraying it on and hand
wiping gutters to get the black streaks off of gutters.
And it did a good job doing that, but some
as I was hosing it off, some dripped down on
the glass, and I really thought I had run her glass.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
So well, that's interesting anyway, I should have asked whether
it was a regular glass clean product. It sounded like
it was. But because when I used my analogy after
I said I have no idea call the eight hundred number,
I said, you know, if it's a connect a hose
to the glass cleaner, sometimes they have a residual film
(03:11):
to allow that glass to sheet the water easier so
it doesn't spot. And I was thinking of the film
and she didn't correct me. But I never asked her
if it was a glass cleaner.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah, just the street.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I wasn't.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I wasn't really using a glass cleaner. I was just
using the crud cover.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I hope she's still listening.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
So what is that dua glass?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
What's that usually used for?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
It says on here removes water spots, tar, samp bugs,
and road film. So it's it's a pretty I think
it must have a little pumas or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it must have something and to help get that well, you.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Know, one of the things I had told her, and
I used to see window cleaners do this all the time.
I try not to recommend it because we're not window
cleaners and that is soapy.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Water with a four hot steal wool.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
I mean, I've seen them make glass look like diamonds.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I did not try.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I always try not to recommend
it on the show because I don't really know what
people are going to do with it. But right there
used to also be and maybe this is worth a
try too if she is listening and she doesn't want
to buy something. A lot of people have a barkeeper's
friend in their in their home and that's a mild
(04:41):
oxolic acid and it's got a little bit of you know,
grit to it and that gets rid of film. Like
if your house is around an area with a lot
of pine trees and you kind of get that sap
and gunk and film on a window, that that will
take care of it too. Also, as I'm talking, I'm
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also thinking of Jawl's cream cleanser that can be used
on glass. I use it on a glass down stove.
So maybe yours for sure, because you've used it so
when it.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Works and I don't. It's been like a couple of
years since I've done this. I hope it's still on
the market, but I may have gotten it at an
auto supply you know, sorcerers auto supply store. Maybe I
just can't remember where I bought it.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I'll look it Google it.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, yeah, I'll look it up.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
G O ss.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Hey, appreciate it, all right, thank you, Glenn.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Take care allright, it was very nice. If you'd like
to join.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Us again, it's eight one hundred and eighty two three
eight two five five.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Grab the line.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
John, Welcome, Good morning, Gary, thing morning, you're quite welcome.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Well, I've noticed this year and the end of last
year some money rabbits hopping around my property eat and
I just found a rabbit hole. I'm guessing it's a
rabbit hole about the size of the softball, maybe larger.
And I dug out some of that, and there's tunnels
under there and such. I want to stop them from
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going home and maybe even stell that in. I didn't
know what product, just put dird in there.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Probably kick it out.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Boy, we used to have rabbits at our house. It
was there was at least four or five nests, and
I don't remember the hole being that big. And I'd say,
did you say a softball?
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Yeah, Now there are some other holes smaller than.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
That, like a hardball.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, And I you know, I'd be mowing the grass
and those little boogers would just they were very very small,
and they'd just pop right out and then some hawk
could get them or something like that.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
I didn't seen that. I'm not adverse to them, yeah,
be passing away, But I just want to fill those
holes there. I haven't seen any wildlife go in or
come out.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, well they might just be burrowed down in there
for a while, so they get a little older, a
little stronger.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I mean you can try mainly what gets rid of rabbits.
And so I use this analogy like if you had them.
We used to always get them in our landscaping and
they'd eat the flowers that we just planned and all that.
So we just didn't want to really kill them. We
just want to get them out of the way. And
there's some different rabbit repellents that contain coyote urine and
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those little pellets we'd spray around and then hit it
with a hose, and man we could. We wouldn't see
a rabbit up in that landscaping beds for for a
month or two, and then we might have to, you know,
throw some more out there and start to process again.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
So I keep from going there ahead.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
I did notice some granules at the store. Deer and rabbit.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
It'll chase them out of there.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
If there, if they have the ability to get out
of there, they'll get.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Out of there. Okay, you know, so.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
You know without really well, they'll get out of there
if they can. If they can't, they're not going to
get out of there.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
I'll give that a try start.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
So, yeah, that'd be the thing I would use.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, we had then we had some development around our
house and I haven't seen a rabbit since. And my
guess is when that development was put in chase the
coyotes out, that was the end of our rabbit problem.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
All right, Gary, thank you very much, God bless you.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
All right, John, thank you very much. All right, let's
take a break and we'll come back, which will be
up first. If you'd like to join us, do so.
As we continue, you're at Home with Gary Sullivan on
fifty five KRCE, the talk station. Well, of course every
weekend we talk home improvement. By the way, if you
missed the conversation with Adam Smith from Dumont Global talking
(09:20):
about their wonderful new way of using their smart strip
and smart Strip Advance with a non aerosol bagon valve product.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
You can spray it on a lot of great information.
You can pick that up on the iHeart app and
just hit podcast at Home with Gary Selvin. Take a listen,
like good info, great new product. It's going to get
a lot of press. All right, let's go to Rich
Rich Welcome. Hi, Yes, sir, are you there?
Speaker 4 (09:56):
I am, yeah, yep here Yeah. I live in Hollyhill, Florida.
It's just north of Daytona Beach. And our station is
not carrying your full hours, so you got to get
on them about that.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Well, I got hey, just just a quick recommendation there,
rich Is you can get you know, we do four
hours on Saturday. We do three hours on Sunday. If
you ever stream radio on the iHeart app, you can.
I can give you our flagship station and you can
listen all seven hours on the weekend.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Well, maybe you can do that. When we hang up,
I'm calling about your uh last week top one of
the topics as many but and it's about the wood
borne these and yeah, I have I feel like a genius.
We of course, whenever they come out, I would, you know,
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fill the holes with call and the old pressure treated wood.
They will not bore into the new pressure treating wood,
which I know, you know what I'm talking about. The
formula changed because of arsenic They you give it about
six years and they'll start boring into the newer PT.
(11:16):
But I come across an article and it's working for us.
Is their common natural enemy is.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Told you?
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Yeah, this article told you how to make of fake washess.
But we got plenty of them there that you know.
We we don't kill them all because they eat spiders
and all.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
Kinds of stuff.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
And my wife took to the older nest empty and
a little davi, a cock and stuff one in one
corner where we had these problems, and we haven't seen
a wood born be since.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
How it really was? How did you simulate this wasp nest?
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Well, actually we didn't. We used real ones. They be
after after we killed them or they got done with
the nest and we just knock them off of the
eve of the house and so ours are real. But
I don't remember what the article said how to to
to simulate it to get rid of these bees. But
(12:23):
it kind of remind me what your last caller was
talking about, wash geez, what was he calling about you?
I'm all, I can't remember.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
We're talking about a film on windows, was the last caller? Oh?
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Yeah, yeah, maybe it was the one before that then okay,
but yeah, I want to I want to look into
that that there loss too, by the way, Yeah, you know,
just anyway, that's a good way to get rid of them.
And just tell people, if they can't find the old
pressure treated wood, they're gonna what they stick the new
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stuff up. They're gonna have to put some darn good
pain than the woodbourn bees don't like.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yeah, And I'll tell you the way you would simulate
a nest. I've actually mentioned that multiple times on this
show over the years. It's pretty dog gone effective. I
also have a great trap. But you take a three
pound old fashioned brown craft paper bag and you you
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kind of you know, get it flexible, and you you
kind of rolling up or push it up, make it
like a baseball out of it, all right, And so
it's round and you hang it up with some fishing
line near the area and just let it blow in
the wind. And they think that thing is a nest
and it's a great repellent.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
It's very safe.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
It sure is.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Ours are our wasp and they're they're here where we live.
There they're more white or a very light gray the
nest and and you know, shape different than what you
were talking about. But I'm sure oh and I and
I as we haven't listened to your show that much
because it's recent to our radio station, but they the
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Woodbourne Bees. I forgot what I was gonna.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Say, Carpenter Bees.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
And yeah, oh and I'm sure you mentioned it and
I didn't hear because we didn't have your show. But
the as, I understand it, and you can correct me
if I'm wrong. The the only one that can actually
sting you is is the female.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
It's the queen.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
And yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
We've seen her stick her bottom side out for service work.
But we But anyway, my uh friends who somewhere in
my adult kids, and they freak out when they fly
around them like Yeah, they're not gonna body.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
No, they're big and scary, but you know, the Queen's
the only one that can do any damage. So thank
you much for the call. And again, if you ever
want to stream the entire show and you want all
the seven hours on the weekend, just the iHeart app,
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Speaker 1 (15:50):
I just want to remind you to.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
AGC. You hear me talk about them and the gutters
and the down spouts and clogs in different things and
AGC Sincy they're offering a camera inspection an augur service
for one hundred and ninety nine bucks. What they're gonna
do is they'll look inside the line, they'll find the
issues and they'll clean it out before it leads to
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you know, big time damage. So take care of it now.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
I know.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Right now it's sonny and it looks like it's gonna
be sunny, nice for a few more days, but call
now before the next big storm. Let them check out
see what's going on with those underground lines from your
down spouts. You can give them a call. You can
also go to their website it's AGC Sincy dot com
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and do that today for sure.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
All right.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Also in the next half hour. You and I have
talked about this awesome often we've mentioned about ceilings that
can be put on old roof shingles and extend the line.
I mean, I hear about this all the time. A
lot of people ask me, you know, is this is
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this stuff real? Does it work?
Speaker 1 (17:10):
And I said I was going to uh.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Get them on and we would we would talk about that.
So a local franchise owner of roofer store, Uh, he's
going to be joining me, Dave Beckett, and we're going
to discuss what rufer store is, how it works, and
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learn a little bit about that together. So uh, I
hope you do enjoy that, and we'll take a little
break and we'll come back and we'll get started with
Dave and we'll continue at home with Gary Salvn right
here in fifty five car see detalk station. Well, so
far the one weekend has been wonderful. I love, love,
love the sunshine. I'm sure you do too. We're gonna
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get out and get some of the projects done around
the home. Thanks for joining me. Joining me now is
Dave Beckett.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
He is a local.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Franchise owner for a company called roof Restore and Dave,
welcome that home with Gary Sullivan.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
Good to be with you today.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
So tell us all a little bit about roof for Restore.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
So, in a nutshell, roof Restore is a biooil based
spray that is a plot to asphalt shingle roofs that
reinvigorates the asphalt in the shingles, puts pliability back in
and you know, almost brings it back to new And
(18:43):
so what I would say is that it's not a
new technology. The jennifers of the product goes.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
Back over twenty years.
Speaker 7 (18:51):
It was originally used on asphalt roads and highways by
the US and Canadian Departments of Transferation, and about seven
and a half years ago the manufacturer reformulated the product
specifically for roof or for a use on asphalt shingle roofs.
And so it's a much less costly alternative to a
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replacement were usually no more than about twenty percent of
the costs versus what it would cost to replace and put.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
A new roof on.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
So if I go out and I buy a roof
and I have one installed, I mean, you know, it's
a I don't know what the lifespan they you know,
maybe it's warranted for thirty years and maybe you get
twenty five years out of it. Can you kind of
before we extend the life or rejuvenate a roof, can you,
can you tell me a little bit about how a
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roof fails.
Speaker 7 (19:47):
Well, so what happens is the compound in the asphalt
shingles starts to deteriorate over time, mainly from exposure to
you know, the normal element sun, when rain, et cetera.
And that's why you get to a certain point where
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the roof regardless of how long the warranty is. And
I'll make a comment about warranties here in a minute,
but what it does, the shingles actually start to the
asphalt of the shingles start to deteriorate, and that's what
causes the granule loss and the brittleness in the shingles.
(20:30):
So the you know, one thing to keep in mind
is that there are different, different lengths proposed lifespans for roofs.
You've got different you know, two main types of roofs.
You've got you've got dimensional roofs, and then you've got
three tab dimensionals. A much more expensive shingle lasts a
lot longer. The interesting thing is if you read one
(20:53):
of the largest shingle manufacturers warranty, it becomes fairly clear
that about after ten years you're almost on your own
if you need a roof replacement, just because of some
of the limitations. They start to exclude the actual tear off,
which obviously there's a cost for that. They don't include
the uh, you know, the removal of the shingles. So
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there's a lot of fine print in the shingle manufacturer's
warranties that most folks are not aware of.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Seems like a lot of people are just washing their
hands of roofs period. I mean, insurance companies are telling people, hey,
you got to get a clean your roof, you got
to replace your roof if there's hail damage. We can't
pay full amounts on that. And the warranties have always
been that way. David's, as you know, in terms of
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you know, you know, if it's not ventilated right, your
roof's not covered. If it's you know, installed wrong, it's
not covered. If it's put on top of existing roofing,
it's not covered. So we know that, and we all
want our roofs to last for as long as we
possibly can. So let's go through and I guess it's
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safe to say the warranty on a roof, even if
it was everything was perfect in copeyesthetic, if you get
a thirty year roof warranty, it really you're gonna have
rufers start talking about replacement at least at twenty five years.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Is that not true?
Speaker 7 (22:28):
Well, actually, I would shorten that time span. I'm starting
to hear from a lot of folks that are telling
me they have a roof that's not even twenty years old,
and they've got rupers saying you really need to replace this.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
I would.
Speaker 7 (22:43):
You know, there's a lot of issues going on in
the insurance industry with homeowners, probably too much for this
call today, but the fight that to say, what I
have found with my experience in the last year plus
is that the different insurance companies all have different ways
that they're handling roof claims. As you mentioned some are
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sending out cancelation letters prior to renewal. Others are not
sending out cancelations, but they'll put an actual cash value
slashed appreciation schedule in, so you have to deal with that.
I did find one insurance company kind of a neat
product they're offering where you could actually do a deductible
buyback specifically for the roof. They partnered with Lloyd's on that.
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But the yeah, it's pretty pretty interesting. But you know what,
we took a lot of times people say, well, when
is it too soon to think about this?
Speaker 6 (23:38):
And I always.
Speaker 7 (23:38):
Say, well, don't wait until it's twenty seven years old
and you're looking for a hail Mary, and you probably
do really do need a replacement, because we will not
offer our five year guarantee if we can't if it's
not a good candidate for a treatment. Okay, And so
I suggest to people that really start thinking about a treatment,
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a rejuvenation treatment twelve fifteen years in on a roof,
because we can do the application up to three times
thereby extending for fifteen you know, each with a five
year guarantee.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
All right, well, let's go through that process. Because I
get a lot of calls on this Dave, and you know,
people are they're curious, you know, they're curious, Ay does
this work?
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Be?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
What's it due? How's it done? So let's start the process.
Let's just say, let's say I got a thirty year roof.
I'm at I don't know, say year twenty, you know,
eighteen twenty, and you know, so it's got eighteen or
twenty years aware and nobody's knocking on my door trying
(24:51):
to sell me a roof yet, but I know it's coming.
It's like a freight train coming down the track. There's
an alternative to not replacing that roof.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
You call roof restore and you do what.
Speaker 7 (25:07):
So we do a couple of things. We first do
an inspection, We go out and meet with the homeowner.
We use we actually use a drone instead of it's
you know, instead of getting up on the roof. But
what we'll do is we'll take the drone up, We'll
take videos and pictures and.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
A couple of things we look for.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
And I don't want to fail to mention that when
we do a treatment, we actually include a minor tune
up that's included in what we charge the homeowner. So
we we're looking for things like nail pops, We're looking
for any loose shingles, We're looking for perhaps any loose flashing.
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We are looking for any kind of fraid or broken
pipe and chimney collars.
Speaker 6 (25:59):
And so we then, you know.
Speaker 7 (26:01):
As I said, we take pictures and videos, we point
those repair needs out to the homeowner. And then the
thing that we have to do is we you know,
we take a look at the actual roof. We want
to make sure that it's still in decent structural shape,
that it hasn't had majority granule loss. And we can
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tell when we go out whether or not a roof
could be treated or not. And like I said, if
we can't treat it, I won't. But about eighty five
percent of the time we can actually treat a roof
and get at least five more years use out of it.
And then you know, we we we've got a measurement
tool and I'll plug in the address and it says,
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you know, one two three Main Street, the square footage
of the roof is two thousand, you know, three hundred
and thirty feet, and so we you know, we modiply
that by our cost for square foot and put a
proposal together, send it out to the perspective customer, and
then if they decide to engage with us, we then
would schedule time and go out and do the tune
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up and the rejuvenations break.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
So okay, So what's that due to the color of
the roof or is it clear you say it's a
five year application.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Correct?
Speaker 7 (27:19):
Yes, if it's not a it's not a coloring agent
per se. But if you were to look at a
roof pre treatment and a roof after treatment, and I
do want to make a caveat on the after treatment,
because we always advise our customers of this, it will
you will definitely see a change in color after the treatment,
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almost close to what it looked like when the.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
Roof was new.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
It's like stealing it.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
Don't go as.
Speaker 7 (27:47):
Far as saying it'll look brand new. That is not
that's a that's false pretense. But if you look at
before and after pictures of a lot of the jobs
we've done, you can see a disdain difference between pre
treatment and post treatment. And the one thing that I
always caution homeowners against is after we put the spray
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application on, there can be some streaking that you think,
oh my gosh, what's going on here, And the reality
of it is, after about three or four good steady rainfalls,
any of that streaking that may have been a result
of us applying the treatment will even itself out, and
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the treatment itself will actually emulsify the asphalt and the shingles,
and you will have a roof that looks very consistent
from shingle to shingle.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Okay, So yeah, and it's kind of like, quite honestly,
if you had stamp concrete and it's all bleached out
and you put a seiler on there, it kind of
does rejuvenate, kind of rejuvenates it. It kind of looks good.
So it does enhance it. Now, so before you apply this,
you clean the roof and everything. What happens if it
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has mold or mildew and fungus streaks on there.
Speaker 7 (29:06):
That's a great question depending upon how much the roof
may have some moldor fungus. If it's a very minimal amount,
our product will actually it will actually clean that during
the application of the treatment. But on many occasions, what
you'll find is, and I run into this all the time,
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you may find a small section of the roof that
has been shaded and has algae and moss build up
on those jobs, we highly recommend a soft wash before
we actually do the application, where we will go in
and we will use a chemical that will remove the
algae growth rinse off, and then we would apply the
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roof rejuvenation treatment.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
So once it's clean and the application is applied, what
I know, you can can tell me what the secret
sauce is.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
But what's the secret sauce?
Speaker 6 (30:05):
Well, it's interesting.
Speaker 7 (30:07):
I often, actually not often, but usually as I'm talking
to people about this and they're trying to I think,
in their mind verify the legitimacy of this product, this product,
because quite frankly, you know, I always have to deal
with the new issue. I mean, undoubtedly every conversation I have,
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someone says, well, this is new, this is new, and
I said, no, it's not, and I go through the
whole background of the twenty years ago and seven and
a half years ago. The other thing I do is
I have an eight page document that was a lab
simulation performed by the manufacturer that did a fifteen hundred
(30:50):
hour and a three hundred hour lab test. The fifteen
hundred hours equates to about five years of the life
of a roof three thousand hours equations about ten years.
And what that report clearly demonstrates is that the product
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is effective in bringing the roof back to new protecting
it from when sun rain. I don't have to I
think off the top of my head. I think it
even reduces a fire hazard by like upwards of forty percent.
So I've got a document that I often share with
people to show them that we actually put this product
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through significant testing and we came out with great results.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
So does this product increase the granular adhesion.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Fairly?
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Now?
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Stop it? No?
Speaker 7 (31:48):
Okay, Now what it does is it stops the granule loss.
There is another product in the market that I've referred
some people to. It's kind of like a last ditch
Heil Mary between being able to do the rejuvenation treatment
and actually needing a new roof. Their product actually has
granules in the in the application when they create arm
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ours does not. It's just simply restoring and stopping the
granule loss when we apply the treatment.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Well that makes sense. Then when you're talking about you know,
stay ahead of it, don't let it lose what it.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Has, keep what you got.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
It's kind of like losing your hair. You know, we're
going to stop that happens.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
So okay, so you clean it, you apply it, it looks good.
The shingle itself has been refortified or I don't know
how you explain that, but the flexibilities improved.
Speaker 7 (32:54):
That's fair.
Speaker 6 (32:55):
That's a fair comment.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Yeah, so we're kind of not only is it a
tune up, is kind of a rejuvenation then right.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
It's exactly what it is.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Yea.
Speaker 7 (33:05):
And I know that in talking to I mean, you know,
allegedly there are plus or minus five hundred roofing companies
in Greater Cincinnati.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
Well, I've gotten to know a lot of.
Speaker 7 (33:17):
Them since I started the franchise. But you know, I
always ask, hey, what would you charge someone just to
go out and do that tune up? Those minor repairs
which we include in our treatment costs. And you know,
people are telling me the starting point on just that
is two fifty en up. So there's a real value
in us making sure we do that repair work because
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that is just as important as the actual application of
the spray.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Well, even when you're talking about the boots around pipes,
I mean, you know your roof might be a thirty
year warranty. That boot's gonna last you about ten, right.
Speaker 7 (33:51):
Yes, and that's where we always have to make sure
that we're checking for those and we either talk or
replace those because that's quite frankly, that's what leads to
leaks in your roof into the house and then you've
got drywall issues, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yep, yeah, Dave Beckett is my guess. He is with
a company locally here in the Cincinnati area called roof
of Store. Dave, we're going to take a quick break.
We're going to come back and talk about repeated applications
cost of course, everybody wants to know that, and how
do we get a hold of roof for a Store. That's
coming up next, we'll continue our call. You're at home
(34:28):
with Gary Salvan right here in fifty five care see
the talk station. Well, continuing our conversation. Dave Beckett is
my guess. He is with roof for a Store. Easy
for me to say roof for a store, and which
is exactly what it does. It tune ups and rejuvenates
your existing roof, shingled roof, and so Dave, you do
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this before it starts failing. You do it as preventive maintenance. Um,
it lasts five years and then you can do another
treatment and another. I mean, how many treatments can you do?
Speaker 6 (35:06):
We can do up to three, up to.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Three and it's every five years.
Speaker 7 (35:12):
Yeah, it can be every five and although I'm not
that far down the road yet here in Cincinnati, our
franchise or who started us, say seven a half years ago,
when the product was reformulated. As I mentioned earlier, he
started getting calls about four and a half years after
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some of his first customers asking Hey, can I get
on your schedule. I'm nearing five years? Can you give
me another, know, another application? So yeah, the product is
designed so that we can do it up to three times,
like I said earlier, with each one getting a five
year warranty. So yeah, we could potentially extend by up
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to fifteen. But what I would say with regard to
how many times can we actually do it, A lot
of that does depend on how old the roof is
the first time we treat it. And I've had roofs
where they were getting to that point where they were
still in decent shape. But I was able to do
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the rejuvenation treatment, and I told the customer that you know,
you probably will have to get a new roof, you know,
in five, five or six years. But then I've had
other projects I've done, like, for example, I did a
real nice condo hoa project in Blue Ash last summer.
They were facing some pressure from their insurance company. They
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had bids in for replacement. We were able to rejuvenate,
and I told the board that I'm not trying to
pressure you into moving forward and making a decision, but
I think if we can get to this now, I
like your chances or our chances of being able to
do it a second time in five years, thereby extending
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for ten and giving them a lot more time to
reserve for the roof.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
How does insurance companies look at this.
Speaker 7 (37:13):
It? You know, it's it's not the way I wish
they would.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
It's probably mixed it we I mean, just because of
the nature so new.
Speaker 7 (37:22):
Yeah, because I do call I call on a lot
of insurance agents just to let them or make them
aware of the product itself. We've got some documented, some
documented case studies where a homeowner has received the cancelation letter. Uh,
if they do not replace the roof and we have
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a what I'll call a playbook that we can guide
the agent and the homeowner through to try to get
that cancelation rescinded. And we have been successful with four
or five insurance companies of being able to go out
do the tune up treatment, the uvenation spray, give them
the five year warranty and thus getting the cancelation rescinded
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and they're able to renew their helmetar's policy.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Yeah, so it's kind of a one on one deal.
I like that's good, it really is.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Well they've got to be educated too. So who is
who is the number one customer?
Speaker 1 (38:20):
What's your average customer look like? Anybody with a roof?
Speaker 7 (38:25):
Well, it's I mean the average size square footage of
a roof in the greater Cincinnati area.
Speaker 6 (38:33):
And I'm not sure, I don't know how.
Speaker 7 (38:35):
Much as Deviate's probably pretty close around the Midwest, but
the average sized roof is around let's say twenty eight
hundred square feet done. We've done roofs as small as
a thousand square feet, and we've done a couple that
are in the forty five hundred to five thousand square feet.
We're also talking to all of the large property managers
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around Greater Cincinnati about you know, it's the same premise,
same concept for rental properties, for property managers or some
of the bigger apartment complexes, the same thing applies. We've
got a couple of proposals on the table as we speak,
for a couple of apartment complexes where the savings would
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be an excess of a million dollars versus replacements.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Sure, sure, so okay, So it's priced by square footage.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Is that how you do it?
Speaker 6 (39:30):
That's correct?
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Okay?
Speaker 7 (39:32):
So yeah, our base price is about a dollar square foot.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (39:37):
So now sometimes it might be a little more if
we incur like a really stiff pee, a really steep pitch.
Sometimes we might put on what we call it like
a safety search charge, where we've got to use some
extra equipment with the person on the route. But in general,
I always tell people a dollar square foot, dollar square foot.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Yeah, you know what they always tell me, David, was
that easy? Everybody'd do it?
Speaker 7 (40:06):
Yeah, And I'm starting to use a starting point for
a new roof of about five dollars and fifty cents
it's worth of okay, And those numbers are a lot
higher depending on some of the you know, it's funny.
I've talked a couple of folks that had an insurance
claim and I said, just by chance, what was.
Speaker 6 (40:26):
Your claim and how big is your roof?
Speaker 7 (40:29):
And I have been absolutely astounded at some of the
moneies that have been paid out in insurance claims and
what a roof were made off of a replacement?
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Right, Well, they will quickly run out of time, and
I want to get all the information so that folks
can give you a call. But you know, it's just
like your car, if you do the maintenance, you'll extend
the life. And that's what you're trying to do. A
roof restores extend the life of the existing roof. If
you're interested, How do folks get a hold of you?
Speaker 6 (41:04):
Great question? Phone number.
Speaker 7 (41:06):
Our phone number is five to one three four one
zero four one zero three again five one three four
ten forty one oh three. And our website address is
roof Restore Sinc. Dot com. Okay, that's r O O
F R E S T O R C I N
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C Y dot com And there's no E in restore.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Well, Dave, thank you so much for your time, good
luck the business and this this this extending the life
and doing the maintenance. Always figure maintenance one of the
hardest things to convince people, even if it's painting, but
it always pays diffidence dividends.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
I talked about.
Speaker 7 (41:52):
What I've learned is that people don't want to do
anything to the roof until they have to.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
People don't want to do anything about anything until they
have to.
Speaker 6 (42:02):
Nature.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
I think you're right, Thanks for your time. Appreciate it,
my friend.
Speaker 6 (42:07):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Art All right, take care there you go, roof Restore.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
How about that? It sounds fascinating, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
And uh, you know, just something else to think about,
something else to factor in which direction you want to go?
Check out the website roof Restore Sinsey dot com, no
e and restore and uh well, Danny Boy music's playing.
I must mean it's time to wrap it up.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
And sir, thank you for your help today.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
It's been a busy day, it's been a fun day.
And good Lord willing we'll be back tomorrow for more
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Welcome Gary.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Yes, I heard a lady. A lady was calling about
she thought she had etched some windows with crud cutter
and I had the same thing happened. I was cleaning
the ladies win gutters actually with crud cutter and has
some dripped on the window. And tried everything I could,
all kinds of cleaners. Finally I called the eight hundred
(01:19):
number as you recommended, but they put me onto a
product called made by car Care Products. It's called Dura
Gloss seven fifty five and the other name on the
bottle is new Glass in you Dash Glass. And it
it took me. I thought the windows were ruined, but
(01:41):
it took the film or that what I thought was etching.
It took that off. I that she's still listening.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, so tell me again. Its Dura seven six five five.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Dura d u r A gloss seven fifty five, okay,
And it looks like it's made by car Care Products
and on the other side of the labels as new
Glass in you Dash Glass.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
And it took it took the film or etching off
of it.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Really, so I got a couple of questions on the
on the cruck cutter product is and I wasn't real sure.
Do they make a spray on glass cleaner?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Is that what it was that you used?
Speaker 3 (02:27):
No, this this was just straight crud cutter. And I
was diluted it and was spraying it on and hand
wiping gutters to get the black streaks off of gutters.
And it did a good job doing that, but some
as I was hosing it off, some dripped down on
the glass, and I really thought I had run her glass.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
So well, that's interesting anyway, I should have asked whether
it was a regular glass clean product. It sounded like
it was. But because when I used my analogy after
I said I have no idea call the eight hundred number,
I said, you know, if it's a connect a hose
to the glass cleaner, sometimes they have a residual film
(03:11):
to allow that glass to sheet the water easier so
it doesn't spot. And I was thinking of the film
and she didn't correct me. But I never asked her
if it was a glass cleaner.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah, just the street.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I wasn't.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I wasn't really using a glass cleaner. I was just
using the crud cover.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I hope she's still listening.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
So what is that dua glass?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
What's that usually used for?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
It says on here removes water spots, tar, samp bugs,
and road film. So it's it's a pretty I think
it must have a little pumas or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it must have something and to help get that well, you.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Know, one of the things I had told her, and
I used to see window cleaners do this all the time.
I try not to recommend it because we're not window
cleaners and that is soapy.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Water with a four hot steal wool.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
I mean, I've seen them make glass look like diamonds.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I did not try.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I always try not to recommend
it on the show because I don't really know what
people are going to do with it. But right there
used to also be and maybe this is worth a
try too if she is listening and she doesn't want
to buy something. A lot of people have a barkeeper's
friend in their in their home and that's a mild
(04:41):
oxolic acid and it's got a little bit of you know,
grit to it and that gets rid of film. Like
if your house is around an area with a lot
of pine trees and you kind of get that sap
and gunk and film on a window, that that will
take care of it too. Also, as I'm talking, I'm
(05:03):
also thinking of Jawl's cream cleanser that can be used
on glass. I use it on a glass down stove.
So maybe yours for sure, because you've used it so
when it.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Works and I don't. It's been like a couple of
years since I've done this. I hope it's still on
the market, but I may have gotten it at an
auto supply you know, sorcerers auto supply store. Maybe I
just can't remember where I bought it.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I'll look it Google it.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, yeah, I'll look it up.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
G O ss.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Hey, appreciate it, all right, thank you, Glenn.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Take care allright, it was very nice. If you'd like
to join.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Us again, it's eight one hundred and eighty two three
eight two five five.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Grab the line.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
John, Welcome, Good morning, Gary, thing morning, you're quite welcome.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Well, I've noticed this year and the end of last
year some money rabbits hopping around my property eat and
I just found a rabbit hole. I'm guessing it's a
rabbit hole about the size of the softball, maybe larger.
And I dug out some of that, and there's tunnels
under there and such. I want to stop them from
(06:14):
going home and maybe even stell that in. I didn't
know what product, just put dird in there.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Probably kick it out.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Boy, we used to have rabbits at our house. It
was there was at least four or five nests, and
I don't remember the hole being that big. And I'd say,
did you say a softball?
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Yeah, Now there are some other holes smaller than.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
That, like a hardball.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, And I you know, I'd be mowing the grass
and those little boogers would just they were very very small,
and they'd just pop right out and then some hawk
could get them or something like that.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
I didn't seen that. I'm not adverse to them, yeah,
be passing away, But I just want to fill those
holes there. I haven't seen any wildlife go in or
come out.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, well they might just be burrowed down in there
for a while, so they get a little older, a
little stronger.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I mean you can try mainly what gets rid of rabbits.
And so I use this analogy like if you had them.
We used to always get them in our landscaping and
they'd eat the flowers that we just planned and all that.
So we just didn't want to really kill them. We
just want to get them out of the way. And
there's some different rabbit repellents that contain coyote urine and
(07:46):
those little pellets we'd spray around and then hit it
with a hose, and man we could. We wouldn't see
a rabbit up in that landscaping beds for for a
month or two, and then we might have to, you know,
throw some more out there and start to process again.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
So I keep from going there ahead.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
I did notice some granules at the store. Deer and rabbit.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
It'll chase them out of there.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
If there, if they have the ability to get out
of there, they'll get.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Out of there. Okay, you know, so.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
You know without really well, they'll get out of there
if they can. If they can't, they're not going to
get out of there.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
I'll give that a try start.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
So, yeah, that'd be the thing I would use.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, we had then we had some development around our
house and I haven't seen a rabbit since. And my
guess is when that development was put in chase the
coyotes out, that was the end of our rabbit problem.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
All right, Gary, thank you very much, God bless you.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
All right, John, thank you very much. All right, let's
take a break and we'll come back, which will be
up first. If you'd like to join us, do so.
As we continue, you're at Home with Gary Sullivan on
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weekend we talk home improvement. By the way, if you
missed the conversation with Adam Smith from Dumont Global talking
(09:20):
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You can spray it on a lot of great information.
You can pick that up on the iHeart app and
just hit podcast at Home with Gary Selvin. Take a listen,
like good info, great new product. It's going to get
a lot of press. All right, let's go to Rich
Rich Welcome. Hi, Yes, sir, are you there?
Speaker 4 (09:56):
I am, yeah, yep here Yeah. I live in Hollyhill, Florida.
It's just north of Daytona Beach. And our station is
not carrying your full hours, so you got to get
on them about that.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Well, I got hey, just just a quick recommendation there,
rich Is you can get you know, we do four
hours on Saturday. We do three hours on Sunday. If
you ever stream radio on the iHeart app, you can.
I can give you our flagship station and you can
listen all seven hours on the weekend.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Well, maybe you can do that. When we hang up,
I'm calling about your uh last week top one of
the topics as many but and it's about the wood
borne these and yeah, I have I feel like a genius.
We of course, whenever they come out, I would, you know,
(10:55):
fill the holes with call and the old pressure treated wood.
They will not bore into the new pressure treating wood,
which I know, you know what I'm talking about. The
formula changed because of arsenic They you give it about
six years and they'll start boring into the newer PT.
(11:16):
But I come across an article and it's working for us.
Is their common natural enemy is.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Told you?
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Yeah, this article told you how to make of fake washess.
But we got plenty of them there that you know.
We we don't kill them all because they eat spiders
and all.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
Kinds of stuff.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
And my wife took to the older nest empty and
a little davi, a cock and stuff one in one
corner where we had these problems, and we haven't seen
a wood born be since.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
How it really was? How did you simulate this wasp nest?
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Well, actually we didn't. We used real ones. They be
after after we killed them or they got done with
the nest and we just knock them off of the
eve of the house and so ours are real. But
I don't remember what the article said how to to
to simulate it to get rid of these bees. But
(12:23):
it kind of remind me what your last caller was
talking about, wash geez, what was he calling about you?
I'm all, I can't remember.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
We're talking about a film on windows, was the last caller? Oh?
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Yeah, yeah, maybe it was the one before that then okay,
but yeah, I want to I want to look into
that that there loss too, by the way, Yeah, you know,
just anyway, that's a good way to get rid of them.
And just tell people, if they can't find the old
pressure treated wood, they're gonna what they stick the new
(13:00):
stuff up. They're gonna have to put some darn good
pain than the woodbourn bees don't like.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yeah, And I'll tell you the way you would simulate
a nest. I've actually mentioned that multiple times on this
show over the years. It's pretty dog gone effective. I
also have a great trap. But you take a three
pound old fashioned brown craft paper bag and you you
(13:27):
kind of you know, get it flexible, and you you
kind of rolling up or push it up, make it
like a baseball out of it, all right, And so
it's round and you hang it up with some fishing
line near the area and just let it blow in
the wind. And they think that thing is a nest
and it's a great repellent.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
It's very safe.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
It sure is.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Ours are our wasp and they're they're here where we live.
There they're more white or a very light gray the
nest and and you know, shape different than what you
were talking about. But I'm sure oh and I and
I as we haven't listened to your show that much
because it's recent to our radio station, but they the
(14:17):
Woodbourne Bees. I forgot what I was gonna.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Say, Carpenter Bees.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
And yeah, oh and I'm sure you mentioned it and
I didn't hear because we didn't have your show. But
the as, I understand it, and you can correct me
if I'm wrong. The the only one that can actually
sting you is is the female.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
It's the queen.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
And yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
We've seen her stick her bottom side out for service work.
But we But anyway, my uh friends who somewhere in
my adult kids, and they freak out when they fly
around them like Yeah, they're not gonna body.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
No, they're big and scary, but you know, the Queen's
the only one that can do any damage. So thank
you much for the call. And again, if you ever
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(15:32):
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Speaker 1 (15:50):
I just want to remind you to.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
AGC. You hear me talk about them and the gutters
and the down spouts and clogs in different things and
AGC Sincy they're offering a camera inspection an augur service
for one hundred and ninety nine bucks. What they're gonna
do is they'll look inside the line, they'll find the
issues and they'll clean it out before it leads to
(16:15):
you know, big time damage. So take care of it now.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
I know.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Right now it's sonny and it looks like it's gonna
be sunny, nice for a few more days, but call
now before the next big storm. Let them check out
see what's going on with those underground lines from your
down spouts. You can give them a call. You can
also go to their website it's AGC Sincy dot com
(16:40):
and do that today for sure.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
All right.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Also in the next half hour. You and I have
talked about this awesome often we've mentioned about ceilings that
can be put on old roof shingles and extend the line.
I mean, I hear about this all the time. A
lot of people ask me, you know, is this is
(17:07):
this stuff real? Does it work?
Speaker 1 (17:10):
And I said I was going to uh.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Get them on and we would we would talk about that.
So a local franchise owner of roofer store, Uh, he's
going to be joining me, Dave Beckett, and we're going
to discuss what rufer store is, how it works, and
(17:35):
learn a little bit about that together. So uh, I
hope you do enjoy that, and we'll take a little
break and we'll come back and we'll get started with
Dave and we'll continue at home with Gary Salvn right
here in fifty five car see detalk station. Well, so
far the one weekend has been wonderful. I love, love,
love the sunshine. I'm sure you do too. We're gonna
(17:59):
get out and get some of the projects done around
the home. Thanks for joining me. Joining me now is
Dave Beckett.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
He is a local.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Franchise owner for a company called roof Restore and Dave,
welcome that home with Gary Sullivan.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
Good to be with you today.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
So tell us all a little bit about roof for Restore.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
So, in a nutshell, roof Restore is a biooil based
spray that is a plot to asphalt shingle roofs that
reinvigorates the asphalt in the shingles, puts pliability back in
and you know, almost brings it back to new And
(18:43):
so what I would say is that it's not a
new technology. The jennifers of the product goes.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
Back over twenty years.
Speaker 7 (18:51):
It was originally used on asphalt roads and highways by
the US and Canadian Departments of Transferation, and about seven
and a half years ago the manufacturer reformulated the product
specifically for roof or for a use on asphalt shingle roofs.
And so it's a much less costly alternative to a
(19:13):
replacement were usually no more than about twenty percent of
the costs versus what it would cost to replace and put.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
A new roof on.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
So if I go out and I buy a roof
and I have one installed, I mean, you know, it's
a I don't know what the lifespan they you know,
maybe it's warranted for thirty years and maybe you get
twenty five years out of it. Can you kind of
before we extend the life or rejuvenate a roof, can you,
can you tell me a little bit about how a
(19:44):
roof fails.
Speaker 7 (19:47):
Well, so what happens is the compound in the asphalt
shingles starts to deteriorate over time, mainly from exposure to
you know, the normal element sun, when rain, et cetera.
And that's why you get to a certain point where
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the roof regardless of how long the warranty is. And
I'll make a comment about warranties here in a minute,
but what it does, the shingles actually start to the
asphalt of the shingles start to deteriorate, and that's what
causes the granule loss and the brittleness in the shingles.
(20:30):
So the you know, one thing to keep in mind
is that there are different, different lengths proposed lifespans for roofs.
You've got different you know, two main types of roofs.
You've got you've got dimensional roofs, and then you've got
three tab dimensionals. A much more expensive shingle lasts a
lot longer. The interesting thing is if you read one
(20:53):
of the largest shingle manufacturers warranty, it becomes fairly clear
that about after ten years you're almost on your own
if you need a roof replacement, just because of some
of the limitations. They start to exclude the actual tear off,
which obviously there's a cost for that. They don't include
the uh, you know, the removal of the shingles. So
(21:16):
there's a lot of fine print in the shingle manufacturer's
warranties that most folks are not aware of.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Seems like a lot of people are just washing their
hands of roofs period. I mean, insurance companies are telling people, hey,
you got to get a clean your roof, you got
to replace your roof if there's hail damage. We can't
pay full amounts on that. And the warranties have always
been that way. David's, as you know, in terms of
(21:48):
you know, you know, if it's not ventilated right, your
roof's not covered. If it's you know, installed wrong, it's
not covered. If it's put on top of existing roofing,
it's not covered. So we know that, and we all
want our roofs to last for as long as we
possibly can. So let's go through and I guess it's
(22:10):
safe to say the warranty on a roof, even if
it was everything was perfect in copeyesthetic, if you get
a thirty year roof warranty, it really you're gonna have
rufers start talking about replacement at least at twenty five years.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Is that not true?
Speaker 7 (22:28):
Well, actually, I would shorten that time span. I'm starting
to hear from a lot of folks that are telling
me they have a roof that's not even twenty years old,
and they've got rupers saying you really need to replace this.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
I would.
Speaker 7 (22:43):
You know, there's a lot of issues going on in
the insurance industry with homeowners, probably too much for this
call today, but the fight that to say, what I
have found with my experience in the last year plus
is that the different insurance companies all have different ways
that they're handling roof claims. As you mentioned some are
(23:04):
sending out cancelation letters prior to renewal. Others are not
sending out cancelations, but they'll put an actual cash value
slashed appreciation schedule in, so you have to deal with that.
I did find one insurance company kind of a neat
product they're offering where you could actually do a deductible
buyback specifically for the roof. They partnered with Lloyd's on that.
(23:27):
But the yeah, it's pretty pretty interesting. But you know what,
we took a lot of times people say, well, when
is it too soon to think about this?
Speaker 6 (23:38):
And I always.
Speaker 7 (23:38):
Say, well, don't wait until it's twenty seven years old
and you're looking for a hail Mary, and you probably
do really do need a replacement, because we will not
offer our five year guarantee if we can't if it's
not a good candidate for a treatment. Okay, And so
I suggest to people that really start thinking about a treatment,
(24:02):
a rejuvenation treatment twelve fifteen years in on a roof,
because we can do the application up to three times
thereby extending for fifteen you know, each with a five
year guarantee.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
All right, well, let's go through that process. Because I
get a lot of calls on this Dave, and you know,
people are they're curious, you know, they're curious, Ay does
this work?
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Be?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
What's it due? How's it done? So let's start the process.
Let's just say, let's say I got a thirty year roof.
I'm at I don't know, say year twenty, you know,
eighteen twenty, and you know, so it's got eighteen or
twenty years aware and nobody's knocking on my door trying
(24:51):
to sell me a roof yet, but I know it's coming.
It's like a freight train coming down the track. There's
an alternative to not replacing that roof.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
You call roof restore and you do what.
Speaker 7 (25:07):
So we do a couple of things. We first do
an inspection, We go out and meet with the homeowner.
We use we actually use a drone instead of it's
you know, instead of getting up on the roof. But
what we'll do is we'll take the drone up, We'll
take videos and pictures and.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
A couple of things we look for.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
And I don't want to fail to mention that when
we do a treatment, we actually include a minor tune
up that's included in what we charge the homeowner. So
we we're looking for things like nail pops, We're looking
for any loose shingles, We're looking for perhaps any loose flashing.
(25:52):
We are looking for any kind of fraid or broken
pipe and chimney collars.
Speaker 6 (25:59):
And so we then, you know.
Speaker 7 (26:01):
As I said, we take pictures and videos, we point
those repair needs out to the homeowner. And then the
thing that we have to do is we you know,
we take a look at the actual roof. We want
to make sure that it's still in decent structural shape,
that it hasn't had majority granule loss. And we can
(26:21):
tell when we go out whether or not a roof
could be treated or not. And like I said, if
we can't treat it, I won't. But about eighty five
percent of the time we can actually treat a roof
and get at least five more years use out of it.
And then you know, we we we've got a measurement
tool and I'll plug in the address and it says,
(26:43):
you know, one two three Main Street, the square footage
of the roof is two thousand, you know, three hundred
and thirty feet, and so we you know, we modiply
that by our cost for square foot and put a
proposal together, send it out to the perspective customer, and
then if they decide to engage with us, we then
would schedule time and go out and do the tune
(27:05):
up and the rejuvenations break.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
So okay, So what's that due to the color of
the roof or is it clear you say it's a
five year application.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Correct?
Speaker 7 (27:19):
Yes, if it's not a it's not a coloring agent
per se. But if you were to look at a
roof pre treatment and a roof after treatment, and I
do want to make a caveat on the after treatment,
because we always advise our customers of this, it will
you will definitely see a change in color after the treatment,
(27:42):
almost close to what it looked like when the.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
Roof was new.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
It's like stealing it.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
Don't go as.
Speaker 7 (27:47):
Far as saying it'll look brand new. That is not
that's a that's false pretense. But if you look at
before and after pictures of a lot of the jobs
we've done, you can see a disdain difference between pre
treatment and post treatment. And the one thing that I
always caution homeowners against is after we put the spray
(28:08):
application on, there can be some streaking that you think,
oh my gosh, what's going on here, And the reality
of it is, after about three or four good steady rainfalls,
any of that streaking that may have been a result
of us applying the treatment will even itself out, and
(28:30):
the treatment itself will actually emulsify the asphalt and the shingles,
and you will have a roof that looks very consistent
from shingle to shingle.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Okay, So yeah, and it's kind of like, quite honestly,
if you had stamp concrete and it's all bleached out
and you put a seiler on there, it kind of
does rejuvenate, kind of rejuvenates it. It kind of looks good.
So it does enhance it. Now, so before you apply this,
you clean the roof and everything. What happens if it
(29:01):
has mold or mildew and fungus streaks on there.
Speaker 7 (29:06):
That's a great question depending upon how much the roof
may have some moldor fungus. If it's a very minimal amount,
our product will actually it will actually clean that during
the application of the treatment. But on many occasions, what
you'll find is, and I run into this all the time,
(29:28):
you may find a small section of the roof that
has been shaded and has algae and moss build up
on those jobs, we highly recommend a soft wash before
we actually do the application, where we will go in
and we will use a chemical that will remove the
algae growth rinse off, and then we would apply the
(29:50):
roof rejuvenation treatment.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
So once it's clean and the application is applied, what
I know, you can can tell me what the secret
sauce is.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
But what's the secret sauce?
Speaker 6 (30:05):
Well, it's interesting.
Speaker 7 (30:07):
I often, actually not often, but usually as I'm talking
to people about this and they're trying to I think,
in their mind verify the legitimacy of this product, this product,
because quite frankly, you know, I always have to deal
with the new issue. I mean, undoubtedly every conversation I have,
(30:29):
someone says, well, this is new, this is new, and
I said, no, it's not, and I go through the
whole background of the twenty years ago and seven and
a half years ago. The other thing I do is
I have an eight page document that was a lab
simulation performed by the manufacturer that did a fifteen hundred
(30:50):
hour and a three hundred hour lab test. The fifteen
hundred hours equates to about five years of the life
of a roof three thousand hours equations about ten years.
And what that report clearly demonstrates is that the product
(31:11):
is effective in bringing the roof back to new protecting
it from when sun rain. I don't have to I
think off the top of my head. I think it
even reduces a fire hazard by like upwards of forty percent.
So I've got a document that I often share with
people to show them that we actually put this product
(31:34):
through significant testing and we came out with great results.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
So does this product increase the granular adhesion.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Fairly?
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Now?
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Stop it? No?
Speaker 7 (31:48):
Okay, Now what it does is it stops the granule loss.
There is another product in the market that I've referred
some people to. It's kind of like a last ditch
Heil Mary between being able to do the rejuvenation treatment
and actually needing a new roof. Their product actually has
granules in the in the application when they create arm
(32:12):
ours does not. It's just simply restoring and stopping the
granule loss when we apply the treatment.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Well that makes sense. Then when you're talking about you know,
stay ahead of it, don't let it lose what it.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Has, keep what you got.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
It's kind of like losing your hair. You know, we're
going to stop that happens.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
So okay, so you clean it, you apply it, it looks good.
The shingle itself has been refortified or I don't know
how you explain that, but the flexibilities improved.
Speaker 7 (32:54):
That's fair.
Speaker 6 (32:55):
That's a fair comment.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Yeah, so we're kind of not only is it a
tune up, is kind of a rejuvenation then right.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
It's exactly what it is.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Yea.
Speaker 7 (33:05):
And I know that in talking to I mean, you know,
allegedly there are plus or minus five hundred roofing companies
in Greater Cincinnati.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
Well, I've gotten to know a lot of.
Speaker 7 (33:17):
Them since I started the franchise. But you know, I
always ask, hey, what would you charge someone just to
go out and do that tune up? Those minor repairs
which we include in our treatment costs. And you know,
people are telling me the starting point on just that
is two fifty en up. So there's a real value
in us making sure we do that repair work because
(33:39):
that is just as important as the actual application of
the spray.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Well, even when you're talking about the boots around pipes,
I mean, you know your roof might be a thirty
year warranty. That boot's gonna last you about ten, right.
Speaker 7 (33:51):
Yes, and that's where we always have to make sure
that we're checking for those and we either talk or
replace those because that's quite frankly, that's what leads to
leaks in your roof into the house and then you've
got drywall issues, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yep, yeah, Dave Beckett is my guess. He is with
a company locally here in the Cincinnati area called roof
of Store. Dave, we're going to take a quick break.
We're going to come back and talk about repeated applications
cost of course, everybody wants to know that, and how
do we get a hold of roof for a Store. That's
coming up next, we'll continue our call. You're at home
(34:28):
with Gary Salvan right here in fifty five care see
the talk station. Well, continuing our conversation. Dave Beckett is
my guess. He is with roof for a Store. Easy
for me to say roof for a store, and which
is exactly what it does. It tune ups and rejuvenates
your existing roof, shingled roof, and so Dave, you do
(34:51):
this before it starts failing. You do it as preventive maintenance. Um,
it lasts five years and then you can do another
treatment and another. I mean, how many treatments can you do?
Speaker 6 (35:06):
We can do up to three, up to.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Three and it's every five years.
Speaker 7 (35:12):
Yeah, it can be every five and although I'm not
that far down the road yet here in Cincinnati, our
franchise or who started us, say seven a half years ago,
when the product was reformulated. As I mentioned earlier, he
started getting calls about four and a half years after
(35:33):
some of his first customers asking Hey, can I get
on your schedule. I'm nearing five years? Can you give
me another, know, another application? So yeah, the product is
designed so that we can do it up to three times,
like I said earlier, with each one getting a five
year warranty. So yeah, we could potentially extend by up
(35:54):
to fifteen. But what I would say with regard to
how many times can we actually do it, A lot
of that does depend on how old the roof is
the first time we treat it. And I've had roofs
where they were getting to that point where they were
still in decent shape. But I was able to do
(36:18):
the rejuvenation treatment, and I told the customer that you know,
you probably will have to get a new roof, you know,
in five, five or six years. But then I've had
other projects I've done, like, for example, I did a
real nice condo hoa project in Blue Ash last summer.
They were facing some pressure from their insurance company. They
(36:40):
had bids in for replacement. We were able to rejuvenate,
and I told the board that I'm not trying to
pressure you into moving forward and making a decision, but
I think if we can get to this now, I
like your chances or our chances of being able to
do it a second time in five years, thereby extending
(37:02):
for ten and giving them a lot more time to
reserve for the roof.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
How does insurance companies look at this.
Speaker 7 (37:13):
It? You know, it's it's not the way I wish
they would.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
It's probably mixed it we I mean, just because of
the nature so new.
Speaker 7 (37:22):
Yeah, because I do call I call on a lot
of insurance agents just to let them or make them
aware of the product itself. We've got some documented, some
documented case studies where a homeowner has received the cancelation letter. Uh,
if they do not replace the roof and we have
(37:42):
a what I'll call a playbook that we can guide
the agent and the homeowner through to try to get
that cancelation rescinded. And we have been successful with four
or five insurance companies of being able to go out
do the tune up treatment, the uvenation spray, give them
the five year warranty and thus getting the cancelation rescinded
(38:07):
and they're able to renew their helmetar's policy.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Yeah, so it's kind of a one on one deal.
I like that's good, it really is.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Well they've got to be educated too. So who is
who is the number one customer?
Speaker 1 (38:20):
What's your average customer look like? Anybody with a roof?
Speaker 7 (38:25):
Well, it's I mean the average size square footage of
a roof in the greater Cincinnati area.
Speaker 6 (38:33):
And I'm not sure, I don't know how.
Speaker 7 (38:35):
Much as Deviate's probably pretty close around the Midwest, but
the average sized roof is around let's say twenty eight
hundred square feet done. We've done roofs as small as
a thousand square feet, and we've done a couple that
are in the forty five hundred to five thousand square feet.
We're also talking to all of the large property managers
(38:58):
around Greater Cincinnati about you know, it's the same premise,
same concept for rental properties, for property managers or some
of the bigger apartment complexes, the same thing applies. We've
got a couple of proposals on the table as we speak,
for a couple of apartment complexes where the savings would
(39:20):
be an excess of a million dollars versus replacements.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Sure, sure, so okay, So it's priced by square footage.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Is that how you do it?
Speaker 6 (39:30):
That's correct?
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Okay?
Speaker 7 (39:32):
So yeah, our base price is about a dollar square foot.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (39:37):
So now sometimes it might be a little more if
we incur like a really stiff pee, a really steep pitch.
Sometimes we might put on what we call it like
a safety search charge, where we've got to use some
extra equipment with the person on the route. But in general,
I always tell people a dollar square foot, dollar square foot.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Yeah, you know what they always tell me, David, was
that easy? Everybody'd do it?
Speaker 7 (40:06):
Yeah, And I'm starting to use a starting point for
a new roof of about five dollars and fifty cents
it's worth of okay, And those numbers are a lot
higher depending on some of the you know, it's funny.
I've talked a couple of folks that had an insurance
claim and I said, just by chance, what was.
Speaker 6 (40:26):
Your claim and how big is your roof?
Speaker 7 (40:29):
And I have been absolutely astounded at some of the
moneies that have been paid out in insurance claims and
what a roof were made off of a replacement?
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Right, Well, they will quickly run out of time, and
I want to get all the information so that folks
can give you a call. But you know, it's just
like your car, if you do the maintenance, you'll extend
the life. And that's what you're trying to do. A
roof restores extend the life of the existing roof. If
you're interested, How do folks get a hold of you?
Speaker 6 (41:04):
Great question? Phone number.
Speaker 7 (41:06):
Our phone number is five to one three four one
zero four one zero three again five one three four
ten forty one oh three. And our website address is
roof Restore Sinc. Dot com. Okay, that's r O O
F R E S T O R C I N
(41:28):
C Y dot com And there's no E in restore.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Well, Dave, thank you so much for your time, good
luck the business and this this this extending the life
and doing the maintenance. Always figure maintenance one of the
hardest things to convince people, even if it's painting, but
it always pays diffidence dividends.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
I talked about.
Speaker 7 (41:52):
What I've learned is that people don't want to do
anything to the roof until they have to.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
People don't want to do anything about anything until they
have to.
Speaker 6 (42:02):
Nature.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
I think you're right, Thanks for your time. Appreciate it,
my friend.
Speaker 6 (42:07):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Art All right, take care there you go, roof Restore.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
How about that? It sounds fascinating, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
And uh, you know, just something else to think about,
something else to factor in which direction you want to go?
Check out the website roof Restore Sinsey dot com, no
e and restore and uh well, Danny Boy music's playing.
I must mean it's time to wrap it up.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
And sir, thank you for your help today.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
It's been a busy day, it's been a fun day.
And good Lord willing we'll be back tomorrow for more
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by Audiochuck Media Company.
Betrayal Weekly
Betrayal Weekly is back for a new season. Every Thursday, Betrayal Weekly shares first-hand accounts of broken trust, shocking deceptions, and the trail of destruction they leave behind. Hosted by Andrea Gunning, this weekly ongoing series digs into real-life stories of betrayal and the aftermath. From stories of double lives to dark discoveries, these are cautionary tales and accounts of resilience against all odds. From the producers of the critically acclaimed Betrayal series, Betrayal Weekly drops new episodes every Thursday. If you would like to share your story, you can reach out to the Betrayal Team by emailing them at betrayalpod@gmail.com and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. Please join our Substack for additional exclusive content, curated book recommendations, and community discussions. Sign up FREE by clicking this link Beyond Betrayal Substack. Join our community dedicated to truth, resilience, and healing. Your voice matters! Be a part of our Betrayal journey on Substack.