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June 28, 2025 • 39 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, a good Saturday morning. Welcome aboard at home with
Gary salivon Blue Sky's light wind and it's not real
hot right now. So boy, it's been a scorcher this week,
that is for sure. Hey, we're talking home improvement. The
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(00:22):
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back from vacation. Thank you for your patience. And we
did take a couple of weekends off, had a wonderful,
wonderful time with kids and grandkids. And I got your emails.

(01:31):
Where are you. Well, we're here. We're back doing this show,
taking your calls, and well, let me give you the
phone number if you'd like to jump on board, do so.
It's eight hundred eight two three a two five five,
eight hundred eighty two three eight two five five. Happy
to take your call regarding your home projects. And I

(01:53):
know we're well, a lot of parts of the country
very very hot this past week. You sure heard all
the you know, heat warnings and everything else. But you know,
before I left, we were talking about electric rates and
how they're gonna be up twenty twenty five percent. And
you know, I said I was gone two weekends, but
it wasn't really gone two weeks. It was like ten

(02:15):
days which encompassed two weekends. But I started really working
on trying to conserve electricity energy keep my home cool.
I'm sure you did the same, or at least we're
giving it some thought and started compiling lists. And everybody's

(02:35):
got the you know, maybe there's not much we can do.
Everybody's probably got the same list. But I feel like
I've really made headways. I haven't done anything with new
HVAC systems or anything along nose lanes. But we have
those shades, the Allure shades. You may hear me talking

(02:59):
about that, and they're nice shades. We don't have drapes,
you know, it's kind of a light open house, and
we got good windows, low e glass windows. I've never
really worked on concentrating on pulling the shades down and
creating you know, keeping solar hea ca ane outside. I

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thought the windows were doing pretty good job. But anyway,
a couple of things that I started doing in the
house and it's really helped. It's not only helped control
the humidity but also the solar heat ane in the house.
And I thought it just passed it along to you
and tried it if you want. So. I started pulling

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the shades down probably from about eleven in the morning
till about seven eight o'clock at night, and it made
a huge difference. I mean, I have you always hear
these surveys. What do you have your home air conditioning setup?
I think the average is like seventy eight. Not me.

(04:08):
I can have it at sixty two in the winter,
but in the summer maybe seventy two. But this year
I got it up to about seventy six and it's comfortable.
And I think it's comfortable because of the shades being
down creating shade in the house. I turned a fan

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on the air conditioner, which I've preached for about three
years now, where the fan is just on auto. It
is not on on and there's a reason for that
is it takes the moisture out of the air when
that fan's running. If it's on auto, those coils are
always weight and you're blowing it right back up in
the room. I checked my humidity level in my home

(04:54):
a couple of times over the week when it was
hot and yumid. It never got above fifty one percent,
which is to me outstanding because I used to run
and do youmdify? I don't run it, do youmdifier anymore?
Uh So that was the second thing. The third thing
is I started using ceiling fans summertime, counterclockwise. Got my

(05:20):
old tip sheet from a couple of weeks ago. I
talked about tightening the fan blades and if you got
a squeaky fan, and many of us do, including I
had one, and turning the fan off. I tightened the
screws that hold the blades on the armature, tightened it.

(05:46):
It's still squeaked, and I wouldn't wonder if it's the
armature that goes up into the like the motor into
the inner disc on mine. Maybe it's just not the blade.
Maybe it's the mechanism. They were loose, tight, nose up perfect,
just perfect. All the sound is gone. So anyway, those

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three things, shades, running the fan on, the air handler
on auto, it just runs when the air conditioning kicks
on the fans. I don't have the data to say, wow,
this has really saved me money, but I can tell
you it's got to be saving me money because I'm

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running my thermostat at probably four or five degrees warmer
than I used to and the house is really comfortable.
I haven't even got into weather stripping. But here's another
little tip. I don't know how safety conscious you are
in your home. Do you lock the doors? During the day.

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Is it just at night, But a lot of times
if you have a door where you it doesn't fit
just right, or maybe that weather stripping is kind of old.
If you lock that door, it pulls that door into
the jam against the weather stripping and really creates a

(07:13):
nice seal. Seeing him by a little time. I know
this is a time of year where we want to
have fun and we want to enjoy the outdoor temperatures.
We maybe don't want to do a lot of these
home improvement projects, but you know, locking that door, making
sure the windows are locked, that's another thing. It does

(07:36):
a good job of sealing those areas. And we'll talk
about other things too, from calking to door sweeps to thresholds.
There's certainly ways we can make our home more tight.
But I got a long list of things today. Since
we haven't been together for a couple of weeks, and
you may have some pent up questions that you've been

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sitting on also, so I invite you to give us
a call. Our phone number is eight hundred eight two
three A two five to five, and we'll talk about
your project. One of the things I was talking with
Ron about is the importance if you're doing a project
outside the importance of knowing what you want to accomplish

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and how it's accomplished. And what I mean by that
is there are so many great products in paint and
deck sealers and deck cleaners and algae removers and goes
on and on and on, and some of those become
a little less effective or a little compromised when we
start getting temperatures up into the nineties. So I can't

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encourage you enough to just not grab the jug and
go take to five minutes or ten minutes and read
those directions. Why should you want to spend fifty sixty
bucks on product and then not have it live up
to its expectations because you didn't read the limitations of

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the product in heat. So I remind you to do that.
Ron Wilson, he will join us, and then we'll get
to your calls again. It's eight hundred and eight two three,
eight two five five we'll continue. You're at home with
Gary Sullivan. We're time to get.

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Speaker 1 (09:52):
All right, back at it we go at home with
Gary Sullivan. We're twenty minutes after the top of the hour.
It's time to bring in our men. The men it
works outside in the landscaping in the yard and the garden,
mister Ron Wilson, And mister Wilson, how are you well?

Speaker 4 (10:06):
I don't do that on really hot days anymore. You don't, nah,
it takes this toll on me. Come on, I'm sorry.
It's just as I've gotten older, it just doesn't work
for me.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
You know what, I learned something this week? What you'd
always learned something? Right? Oh?

Speaker 4 (10:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (10:22):
So when so I have an underground French dream and
we had some erosion of the soil and the pipe
had cracked, and so I had to replace part of
the pipe and now also extended the pipe down to
a little better place to discharge it and got the

(10:45):
fill dirt and then guess what I had to do
would you have to do? I had to put some
sod in and some grass seed.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
Yeah, grass seed.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah. Wow, So it wasn't that good.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
Either side would be tough enough. It's grass seed. You
know what's amazing what.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
It started growing in five days yep. And you know
how hot it was, yep. And I what I learned
was you can't grow grass seed, and so you just
got water.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
You just got to keep the moisture to it.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
And what I did is every night, about seven o'clock,
I turned the sprinkler on. I can't tell you how
much I put down, but it was a you know,
it's probably fifteen feet long and two feet three feet wide,
and I just let the sprinkler boo boom, boom boom.
You know, maybe a half hour, probably not even quite

(11:43):
that long. Turn it off the next day. Did the
next that sods as green as conven the grass seed
came up. I think I'll keep doing it for a while.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
But I was going to say, as long as you
keep that up, you got it made.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yeah, and it's shaded. It's your help free. That helped.
But yeah, yeah, and I was I was chuckling to
myself because had I not watered it again, preparation is
the key, right, that stuff would never grow, That sod
would be brown by now and it's only been it's

(12:17):
only been down seven days, eight days. Cool.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
The thing about yeah, the thing about sod is you
got to keep it wet. That's a different story than
the grass seed. Right, grass seeds you keep even moisture.
But the sod you got to keep that wet. And
you do that for about two weeks maybe three. Yeah,
it starts to root in and then you're gonna start
to back off on being wet and just good even moisture.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
And of course the grass seeds you got to keep
that to it. And I have seen I'll just forewarn you,
and then you're doing it. You know, that's why you
laugh about the grass sea because now you're stuck with
water in it for a while. But right, and you
know that. But I have seen folks do that seed it,
get it up and growing, then back all off and
not and not keep the well, you know what happens

(13:03):
is the clay soil was so bad that it actually
you know, clay soil will shrink and expand when they
let it dry out, it shrinks together and it actually
just pinched off the grass bulk right at the soil level. Yeah,
so you know, even moisture is going to be the
key wet for the sod for another week or two

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and then and then just gonna have to stick with
it as to go through the summer.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah, and in the way, I have one of those
I don't know. Yeah, people come in and say, you
got that sprinkler. Oh yeah, yeah, we got that. Yeah.
But it's kind of interesting because you know, you get
that long stream and at the end of that stream
is where most of the water is, right, and so
I've got it positioned where the seed gets the spray back.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
Oh and then the gets some water. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yeah, and so it's a good situation. But yeah, you know,
it's still possible to grow seed. You just got to
take care of it. And I probably wouldn't do that
if it was a large area. But literally it's fifteen
feet long, twenty feet long and two feet wide, so it's.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
Not much easier to maintain. Very easier for you to
do that. Yeah, as well as you don't go on vacation.
Now you're stock staying home. Yeah that's okay, unless you
called me to come over and water it for you.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Well, you're busy doing your deck. They are your steps.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
I cleaned it I cleaned. I cleaned it while you
were on vacation. I was out there slaving away. I
can't believe you didn't send I took that. I even
bought with that little broom brush thing. Yeah yeah, oh yeah.
I got the scrubber out and I did the I
scrubed it down. It's amazing.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
How did you use like an oxygen aid bleach or
what kind of cleaners you use on there?

Speaker 4 (14:47):
I did not. I used something I already had on hand. Okay, uh,
mister clean Oh okay. It really did work nicely.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Yeah, that's fine. You might even hit some oxygen aid bleach.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
In there, probably. I think there is probably some in that.
I should have read the label. Mm hm, that shouldn't
I have read this? But I mean in water, I
add so much. Yeah, but it came off nicely. In
dry we haven't had a lot of rain, so it's
been able to dry out. The sun's been hitting it,
and it looks pretty darn nice. So it is ready

(15:19):
to be sealed, and I have used this past week
or so of hot weather to put off putting the
sealer on it.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Sure, we'll tell you another thing. Run reading that label.
We're watching the company's videos. There's a lot of really
neat applicators out there now. Used to kind of look
at a semi transparent and say, well, you can use
like a tank sprayer and kind of spray it on.
That's an option. Then use a roller or a brush
to smooth it out. There's some new products out there.
I think they're almost like a mop, and they do

(15:51):
a great job. They put enough on. You don't want
it to puddle, but you put enough down. It's pretty easy.
It's almost maybe not a mop, moybe like a truck
washing brush or something along those lines. But they do
a great job of putting that down. So spend a
little time in the applicator aisle and take a look
at what's available. You might be surprised.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
Can't you just tell me, well, I spend time in
the applicator aisle.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Well, I can't tell you the out number. No, I
can't do that.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
You can't tell me what you all have to go to.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Thirty eight thirty eight P. Thirty eight B thirty eight
B bottom shelf, bottom shelf right right below the roller.
I like top shelf, well, top shelves always good. Definitely
wear a bandana, really, I mean, and don't do it
in direct sunlight when it's ninety.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
Because I don't want to drip sweat on it.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Well, but you want the sealer to go into the
wood and not into the air.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
What about the sealer that had that's real, that's thicker,
that kind of seals up cracks and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Stay away from it. It really does. It's a three
or four year product, Okay, And that's my opinion. It
does seal the cracks. It's a thick coating. The problem
is it's a water based product that's really thick and
it has a difficult time biting onto pressure treated wood.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
Okay, think any luck getting Joe Strecker to come out
and help me.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Hey, if you can get them up, bring the camera.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
That was fast new.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
That's good, Thanks Jon, Take care all right. We'll continue
at Home with Gary Sullivan and.

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Speaker 6 (19:30):
Welcome hill, Good morning, good morning, morning, hear me, yes,
I got you. Good morning. So our problem is a
recurring one. We've had this now for probably five years.
We have it treated. Every year. We have a bump
out where our front door is. It's not in line

(19:52):
with the rest of the house, and we have had
an ant explosion every year and it comes on the threshold.
We bring the exterminators in. They put their magic crystals
down there and supposedly this takes it into the nest
and kills the ants. Then they come back and they

(20:14):
have wings. These vants have wings on them, and it's
just it's a recurring problem. Every year. We try to
be proactive. It gets exterminator out there during their week
that they're even servicing to get a jump on it. Now,
this year, we're going to take off the front steps completely,

(20:34):
which are stone, and we're going to redo all the steps.
And I'm just curious, scary if you have any ideas
what we should be looking for. We have no idea
what we're going to find down there, but you know,
and how we can treat this and finally get a
handle on it.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yeah, yeah, Well, you know, the exterminators is certainly the
right way to go. They have products you and I
can't buy. But I two had a problem similar to this,
and I know nobody ever wants to hear about it.
You know, it's one of those things that takes time.
I always treated for ants myself and always had great success,

(21:12):
and this one time I just couldn't get him under control.
Got an extermination company, pest control company out this guy.
He treated him for almost two months and he goes
somewhere there's the biggest ant colony. I've eventually he got
it under control. Now, these were regular I'll call them

(21:33):
pavement ants. They were just regular ants forging for water
and food. When you say it's got wings, on. I'm
sure the extermination company took a look at it and said, yes,
those are flying ants or you know, they're not termites
or anything along those lines, or carpenter ants or things
like that. But there's a difference in ants. There's a

(21:55):
difference in what they consume in terms of what they
feel is food. When it's cold like it was, you know,
we had kind of a chili spring in a lot
of parts of the country, they would be looking for
a carbohydrate and in the real hot weather they would

(22:16):
be looking for a protein. There are some chemicals that
have both in them. There are some that do not.
So when you say, do you have any ideas those
types of ants that you're fighting, they can have colonies,
but they're the ones that can also have satellite nurseries

(22:38):
and satellite colonies. So they could be living in underneath
a wood threshold, they could be living in a tree
with a rotted branch. They could be living in your walls.
That could be a satellite nursery. But the way to
do it is you still you know, the job of

(23:00):
ninety percent all ants is the forage for water and food.
So working with a pest control company and working to
get the right kind of combination of a product to
bring back to the satellite or the main colony. That's
the key, and sometimes it does take a little time

(23:22):
to get it under control, depending on the size.

Speaker 6 (23:26):
When we take off the front steps, because it's the
top is cement, the steps are sandstone with brick sidewalls.
When we take off the steps and they'll be completely
redone you think that waterproofing tar would help in any
way to keep them out, they come up through there's

(23:48):
a whole tiny hole where the flooring is inside this
bump out.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Any I tell people all the time, even when you're
starting to treat or notice you have an ant problem,
is to follow them. They usually create a highway. Ants
are very very smart. If they figured out or want
ant figure out how to get inside. They know there's
water and food in there. You will see a highway

(24:16):
of ants going back and forth. And yes, one of
the things on the outside is to minimize the ability
for them to gain entrance in your home. So if
there's cracks or calkings needed or tar, sure that's gonna help.
Is it gonna eliminate it? I don't think so. It
will certainly slow it down. I've had them where people

(24:38):
have ant infections and above the chimney is an old
tree branch that is rotted and the ants are living
in there and they're falling down the chimney and they're
getting in the house that way. So you know, there's
a lot going on. That's really why you want to
deal with a pro if it's if it's a big problem.
But things you can do is be looking for their

(24:59):
entry points. Absolutely you can. There's many really good products
out there. There's there's clear thick products that aren't affected
by the sunlight that lasts longer than tar. If there's
a cracks or down at the bottom of the foundation

(25:19):
and brick meat, yeah, anything you can slow down. When
I had one invasion, even before I had the big invasion,
they were literally living underneath a wood threshold of the
back door that was where their satellite nursery was because
they love wood that stamp.

Speaker 6 (25:40):
All right, Well, we've this is a at least going
on five years, and we do control it. Eventually they
do stop coming in, but then there'll be you know,
some some environmental situation will happen, too much rain, too
much heat, whatever, and then they explode again.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Yeah, do you have a service where they're doing it,
you know, like four times a year, just to kind
of keep it under control. What did they say when
they still to have them?

Speaker 6 (26:09):
They well, you know, it's funny because my husband who's
right here, he was the one the most recent when
they came to treat, which was last week, And did.

Speaker 7 (26:19):
They say anything to that.

Speaker 6 (26:22):
Well, they, I guess they said it might be a
rotten tree too, But we don't have any trees that
are right by the house. So well, okay, Well.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
So you keep observing, You keep observing, see if you
can find an entry away, you know, keep the service
where they continue to create that barrier around the home.
That's the key is keeping them out of the home.
And then you know they will do the bait thing
where they bring it back to the colony. But yeah,

(26:53):
try to find a source. There's no magic here. Try
to find a source, create a barrier, and if you
really like, if you've got a lot of mulch around
the house. I've done this many times. I know the
area where they'd be coming in. I just stand there
and just you know, every day, just keep looking around
the area by the mulch, and eventually you will see
how they're getting in. I've observed it many times, and

(27:16):
sometimes you can even follow them into the lawn and
up the tree. I mean, I know it sounds crazy,
but that's that's a good that's good information you can
pass along to the pest control company. Also, thank you
much for the call. Appreciate it. All right, let's go
to Birch Birch. Welcome, Kerry. How are you doing doing fine?

(27:40):
Thanks good.

Speaker 8 (27:42):
I've got a problem. You've come in handy quite a
bit in the past. A former plumber of mine recommended
this industrial drain cleaner for the tub if I ever
had any backups, And it had a brownish color to it,
and I poured it in let it sit for a
half hour, so it did the trick.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
With the drain.

Speaker 8 (28:00):
Unfortunately, my Coler whirlpool tub.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Ended up.

Speaker 8 (28:06):
I think it ended up eating away at a little
bit of the lining on the bottom of the tub
near the drain, and now there's some rough spots there.
I didn't know if if you knew of anything that
could kind of reseal the tub or I have not
reached out directly to Coler, but I figure out to
start with you. See, if you had any recommendations.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
So is this is this a a PVC tub or
is it like like a plastic or is.

Speaker 8 (28:35):
It it's a Jacuzzi style tub with the jets that
are impossible to clean anyway. But so that had other
issues with the tub, But it's essentially I think that that, uh,
that material was so strong the drain cleaner that because
it sat you know, by the train, it ate away

(28:55):
a little bit of the at the lining.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
It sounds like it was a sulfuric. Did it have
a big go to when you when it sat there,
you know.

Speaker 8 (29:03):
It was brown. I was surprised by the color. It
was brownish in color, and I had distorted it for
a few years. And because my plumber said it was
really the best thing to destroy the you know, destroy
any blockages, I figured I'd give it a try. And
when I started pouring it and saw the brown, I
was a little concerned.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
But yeah, I really wouldn't recommend that. I'm surprised the
plumber recommended it and just wouldn't try to snake that
drain out. It sounds like it was a salt fury,
which can especially etch the finish on a porcelain tub.
Depending on the type of tubs. There's different you know types.

(29:43):
There's plastic tubs, there's fiberglass tubs, there's PVC tubs. There's
all these different I don't know which one. I guess
it could certainly if it's a fiberglass it could etch
the the gloss coating off of the clear coat on
a fiberglass tub. I don't know of anything that seals it.
There are people that they finish them. There's a company

(30:09):
called Miracle Method. It's a national franchise company, has a
excellent proprietary primer. They do a lot in college dorms
and showers, so we know it's got to be very,
very durable. You might check with them just to see
what refinishing that would run you. Again, it's called Miracle Method,

(30:31):
and they could certainly refinish that and take care of
that as far as the jets on that thing, and
then we'll let you go as far as the jets.
There's a product called Awesome. It's a a S O M.
Check that out. It's you run, you fill the tub
with water, you put this gel into the tub and

(30:54):
it's a closed plumbing system in there. And there's what
they call biofilm, which is like black jelly that gets
in that closed plumbing system. This stuff eats that it'll
be disgusting. You'll run this stuff through the closed system
and it'll it'll end up in the tub and it

(31:15):
will kill the biofilm and it will clean out those
jets and it's awesome dot com. All right, very good,
Thanks Burch. We'll take a break. Come back. We got Dona, Mike, Amos, Jim.
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back to the phone calls. We got Donna. Donna, welcome, Hi, Gary,
good morning, can you be good morning?

Speaker 7 (32:22):
Good morning. The reason for my call Gary, and thank
you so much, is we have a very old bungalow.
It's built in nineteen ten we're in the Cleveland area,
and as you would know, when you walk into the house,
there's the kitchen and then off to the left is
the living room, dining room, and two little rooms. But
they're built on there's no floor underneath. It sort of

(32:44):
flexes when you walk. There's just the big good floor
Joyce and this pine wood flooring.

Speaker 9 (32:51):
My question is that you had spoken of a lot
about the day's dash coatings, and several years ago I
had called one of the companies yes to talk about the.

Speaker 7 (33:01):
Possibility of using the garage coating on the wood, whether
I put luan first down or skeated screeted something out.
But even with that, the agent still said that there's
still too much much flexion in the wood when you
know when you're walking. So I just wondered if anything
has come out since then that you knew of that
we could roll something onto the floor. We love the

(33:23):
all the different colors and the flexes that they use
in the garage floor, and I'd love to have that
look in the living you know, in the living space too,
because it looks so clean and fresh. But what's concerned
about the flex the flex factor?

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Yeah, see, that's kind of it falls in the kind
of the same category as the first caller. Remember when
he was talking or no, it was Ron Wilson. He
was talking about the coatings for decks that hide the
cracks and and different things like that, and I said, well,
the problem is it's such a surface coating. If it

(33:56):
doesn't bite really good into the wood, or if there's
a lot of bounce, you know, you're gonna run into
some issues. And I don't know. I mean, you just
have pine floors or pine strips that are nailed to
the joysts.

Speaker 7 (34:14):
Are they screwed or no, they're they're likely back in
nineteen ten, likely.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Nailed in Yeah, yeah, So is there a lost weeks?
You said there's a bounce you can feel, well, well.

Speaker 7 (34:26):
Yeah, no squeaks. The integrity of the joyce is there.
You know, they just probably weren't as close together as
they should have been way back when.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Well, uh, is there any way to shore that up?
Can you get underneath there? And maybe you know, use
cross members in the joys to kind of add more
support underneath.

Speaker 7 (34:52):
It sounds like in the real world that would be
wonderful that I know that would be really labor intensive,
and I'm not sure if it would be wor over
that just putting luxury of sheet vinyl down. But so
I just wanted to check with you and think if
there was anything, well anything more flexible on the market.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Well, I'm thinking, you know, I mean as far as
a coding. Some of the really powerful coatings out there
now are polyureas that have to be professionally applied. They're expensive,
that might be something. Did you call Dyshe and they
said I wouldn't use that, there's too much bounce? And

(35:34):
how did they know? How?

Speaker 7 (35:37):
Right? And I did? And that was guys, that's gotta
been about three years ago. And then I remember you
mentioning a couple of weeks back that it's just such
an influx of new products.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
And right, right, right, Well that's kind of what I'm
thinking too. I mentioned the polyureas that are professionally applied,
and then Dishe has introduced a couple really new products.
And again, you know, when somebody goes, well there's some bounce,
there's some flexing in the wood, how much is that?

(36:09):
How do I how do I give that answer? But
they make an industrial epoxy floor coating, which is really
I mean, it's really outperformed your basic of poxies, that's
for sure. So maybe calling up there again and seeing

(36:29):
if that particular industrial epoxy coating and it's got the
flex and everything. I mean, it's got a design to it.
See if that wouldn't work. They also have a new product.
They always had a product called spreadstone. They have a
new advanced spreadstone which has better bite. But again, I

(36:50):
don't know how we make that determination on how much
bounce you can have, and you know, but I think
I would explore that I it's probably gonna be a
little bit of a you know, crapshoot if you will
to find out. I don't know if they'll be able
to give you a straight answer. Another thing you might

(37:12):
consider It won't be as uh maybe what the look
that you're looking at, but a good acrylic porch and
floor paint which isn't as thick of a coating, so
we will go with the movement much better might be
an answer.

Speaker 7 (37:30):
Okay, thank you, Garry. That's what I'm using. That's what
we've been using over the years. But thank you for
your time. We appreciate your show.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Thank you very much. Thanks, take care, bye bye. And
I did say that, and I continue to say that
there are so many unbelievable codings out there. We're seeing
the coatings go from patios and garages into laundry rooms
in basements. But a lot of times those are concrete floors.

(37:59):
They're not wood floors. This is an older home. And
again I don't know how much moisture is being absorbed underneath.
I mean, there's a lot, a lot of variables here,
but there are certainly some pretty industrial good quality coatings
that are getting into the market and making an impact,

(38:20):
and a lot of the polyureas, a lot of the
industrial strength epoxies certainly certainly helping us out. All right.
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