June 6, 2026 • 20 mins
As the seasons change, homeowners are faced with the daunting task of sealing their driveways to protect them from the elements. But with so many products on the market, it can be overwhelming to choose the right one. In this episode, our guest Bob Beerman from Blackjack Coatings shares his expertise on the Blackjack Drive Max, a game-changing driveway sealer that's been making waves in the industry.
This episode is all about understanding the importance of driveway sealing and how to choose the right product for your needs. Our guest Bob BBierma takes us through the process of selecting the perfect sealer, from the basics of asphalt to the latest technological advancements. He also shares his insights on the benefits of the Blackjack Drive Max, a product that's been years in the making. With its unique blend of urethane and resins, this sealer offers unparalleled durability and protection for your driveway.
One of the key takeaways from this interview is the importance of preparation and patience when it comes to driveway sealing. Our guest emphasizes the need to clean the surface thoroughly and address any cracks or damage before applying the sealer. He also shares tips on how to apply the sealer correctly, including the use of a squeegee and a brush to ensure a smooth finish.
If you're tired of dealing with a cracked and faded driveway, this episode is a must-listen. Our guest Bob Bierman offers valuable advice on how to choose the right sealer and apply it like a pro. So tune in to learn more about the Blackjack Drive Max and how it can transform your driveway.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
All right, let's get the broom out, let's get the
bucket out, and then let's bring in Bob Beerman he
is with Blackjack and Bob how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Oh, I'm great, Gary. Thanks for having me on Happy,
Happy driveway stealer season.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
It is, isn't it? And for those folks that wait
till October, don't do.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
That right right, you're right, although, as you're gonna hear,
we do have a product for those late season okay customers, So.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
So quick background Bob, as I was in the hardware
business and had some do it best stores for years,
and it used to always crack me up. Is you know,
everybody Russian in October and start being frosty in the
Leisa be fallen and I can't find sealers anywhere, and
it's like, well, you got it all summer to do
(01:04):
this in spring, but you are.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
You were you. There's a lot of procrastinators in this
uh with with driveway seilers, That's that's for sure. But
like I said, you're gonna hear, we've got to we've
we've got a product for those procrastinators.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
But for years now, I've been talking about the black
Jack drive Max, which is the best. What makes it
so different than other drive driveway sailers out on the market.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Well, well, Gary, for one, it's our it's our years
of it's the years that we've been in business. Okay,
you know we're our company has just just been making
these products for for decades. Blackjack actually started in nineteen thirteen,
so uh so, so we've got the years of experience,
but also but also the technological advancement, uh have been
(02:01):
there as well, because there's been many changes. I mean,
the the e p A actually mandated going from the
old smelly stuff. You know, people of a certain age
may remember, you know, walking out of the house on
a summer morning and you could smell in the air
somebody's doing their driveway, you know, and.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Sure, and they'd last about ten years at max.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yes, yes, and so now there's more so so the
EPA mandated uh uh you know that that for residential sealers,
that that they've become water based and uh and uh,
our products are far more than just asphalt and water.
So there's uh, there's uh, there's uh technology. That's so
they're actually somewhat more sophisticated than they used to be.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
So I get asked. Since I've been talking about this
for years, I get asked a lot of questions about
blacktop seilers. And one of the questions I get all
the time is, you know what should I use? And
you you have a whole scale of different sailors.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Correct, we do? We we do? And and and the
ones that I would really hone in and feature with today,
we've got to we've got a good better invest scenario,
h Gary. You know, having having having owned hardware stores,
you probably have plenty of good better invest memories for
your product lines inside. So if I could, Yeah, So
(03:29):
the drive Max We've we've got three that I'm gonna
talk about, the drive Max five hundred, the seven hundred,
and the one thousand. Okay, So the good okay, the
starter product is the drive Max five five hundred, all right,
And that's got a five year The number on the
(03:50):
bucket kind of ties into the expected durability of the product.
So the five hundred has got has got a five
five year durability expectation. And uh, it's a it's a
very thick product. Uh it's it's it's asphalt with with
with sand and aggregate, you know, to fill to fill
(04:11):
the pores. It's does it does its job. I mean
it's a uh. You don't want to use tooth thin
of a material because then you're just basically uh covering
your driveway aesthetically. You know where these products and I'm
talking about today actually protect the asphalt. So so the
five hundred. So the five hundred is our workhorse, our
(04:32):
basic as I said, our basic asphalt. Uh, it's got
an easy stir formula, but plenty of aggregate in and
sand in there to fill in the pores on the asphalt.
Then we move up into the Then we move up
into the better okay, which is the Drivemax seven hundred,
and you're going to get more longevity on that. The
(04:52):
seven hundred means you're gonna there's a seven year expectation
of durability for that product. So you're getting everything that
you're getting in the five year, but now now you're
there's more bells and whistles as we go up the line.
Here you're getting you're getting a better value proposition. But
so you're getting you're getting the you're getting the basic
(05:13):
five year, but now you're getting into a gel uh formula,
which means that it's smoother and easier to apply. And
uh and it's also late text fortified, which gives it
some extra it gives the asphalt extra strength. So so
you got good better and then the top of the line.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I'm interested in, Bob, because I'm all about easy.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Okay, well there you go there there now, now we're
getting to the star of our show. Okay, and that
and that's the Drivemax. That's the Drive Max one thousand.
Now you're getting up into the ten year that the
ten year expected durability and uh and and really we've
thrown a lot into that product. You've got everything the
(06:00):
other two the first two have, but now you're getting
you're you're you're getting uh eurethane enhanced product. And eurethane
is a is A is a great chemical uh uh
for adhesion.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, we're you're thinking about eurethane trimming amel. That Sherman
Williams has eu athane clocking for concrete. And now the
eurethane is in the Blackjack drive.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Backs exactly, it's it's in. It's in it's in deck
stains now you know so the elite yes, yes, so
really it's an important it's a it's an important uh
part of the part of the product itself. Besides the adhesion,
the eurethane also has some flexibility so that you know
(06:51):
that the longer the product is down, you know, we
know there's we know, you know, freezing thaw or the
folks up north, uh, you know that occur occur every season.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
The expansion and contraction the you know, the earth, the
settling and such maybe below so you're getting you're getting
movement in the product as well. So so that's that
that's really the highlight of what it does. Okay, the
other the other UH features and attributes that are important
(07:22):
on the drive Max one thousand is that is that
when you're when you're putting it down it we've got
extra dryers in there so that you know, typically driveway
sailor it takes a few hours to the drive before
you can walk on it on on it all depends
on humidity, of course, but on a dry on a
on a normal dry day, you can you can lay
(07:43):
the one thousand down and you can be walking on
it in in uh in an hour or two. So
that you know, that's an added feature.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Is this formula also this is a gel.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Formula also exactly exactly right, yes, yeah, easyre it just
overall easier to spread. So the part that you mentioned
about the procrastinators are going to get to this now
because because size, the extra dry the earthane, the extra
dryers in the product. All right, we've chemically, we've we've
(08:17):
made this were we've made this product that's allowed you
can put it down as low as forty five degrees.
And that is so unique.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yes it is, because.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yes, yes, because typically driveway seilers you don't want to
it's it's temperature sensitive. You don't want to put it
down when it's too cold. You don't want to put
it down when it's too hot. So you want you
want the basic daily temperature to be sixty degrees and rising,
but below ninety okay, now by sixty degrees in rising
that's twenty four hours, all right, So that so that
(08:51):
you know, here here here, we know people will run
into the store and I'm sure you had that you know,
it was forty degrees at night and they you know, and
all of a sudden it's seventy that day. Well, I
got to do my driveway. You know, that's not gonna
that's not going to help the adhesion of the cure process.
So that's why, that's why you know, you depending on
(09:11):
the area of the country here, and you know, middle
of the summer is a good time to be doing that.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Sure, sure, sure driveway seiler as a whole has changed tremendously, correct.
I mean I remember as a kid that would be
like my job, and it always seemed like it was
the hottest August day in the world. We had to
put that down and take like two days to dry.
And now we're talking about a gel formulas. So how
(09:37):
do you install these newer products? How do you apply?
What's the best way? And there's no adhesion problems? I
guess if we prep everything correctly.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Well, I just like painting, you're exactly right. Your you're
you know, first of all, First of all, you want
the driveway, you want your your asphalt to be. You
want it to be dry, but but clean, you know,
so so you know, day before or or as best
you can get out there with your garden hose and
some detergent. And if there's there are oil spots on there,
(10:11):
you may want to use a degreaser. But you know,
just like painting a wall, you don't put paint over dirty,
dirty walls, same way, same way when you're coating a
drive weight. It's not you want to you want to
get that clean, but uh uh, you know, free of
oils is very important. I recommend that that when you
do go out to get your product, try to get
it if possible, try to get it the day before.
(10:32):
And when you bring it home and and unload it,
put the buckets, turn the buckets, over lay them on,
lay them upside down, because so that the product can disperse.
That's going to help. That's going to help the next
day when you start to put it down, it's going
to be you don't have to stir as much or
because you will see if you open the bucket right
(10:53):
out of the store, it's there, you will see some separation.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Different So you get profits in here exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yes, yes, yes, Now the way that the the tool
the best tool to me. Number one, you got to
have a squeegee. Okay, So so so you pour you know,
bucket by bucket, you'll pour about you know, a third
and half of the bucket out you know, in an
area that you can control, and you have a poll
(11:24):
with a squeegee on it. But I recommend besides the squeegee.
I really recommend finding a tool that has a squeegee
on one side and you can flip it over and
there's a bruck on the.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Other that's the old standard driveway application, sir, I mean, yes,
And what why do you need both to get it
in the crevices of the existing sphalt.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah, because everybody's driveway is different depending on age and stuff.
You're you know, you're going to have some areas that
are that may be a little bit more porous, a
little bit rougher, and and and so after you pour
it out, after you first pour it out, you'll you'll
you'll kind of lay it out evenly by by the squeegee, okay,
(12:09):
and you're going to see areas there that may take
more product or less product. And that's when you flip
the That's when the brush comes into play, because you
can you can you can you can you know, literally,
you know, literally agitator scrub product better into the pores. Sure, yes, yes,
so that's a great that's a great tool.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Of the other thing, old shoes, old shoes. Make sure
you're wearing shoes that you're you're plan on throwing out. Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Is this a one step coat or is this two coats?
Or how thick should it be? I think you explained
on how thick it was going to be. You're distributing
with a squegee and kind of working it into the asphalt.
Is there a secondary coat or anything?
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Gary, Thank you for asking that. Absolutely, this is a
mandatory two quote two cote operation, whether it be the
five hundred all the way up to the thousand, it's
a two two uh. Uniform coats are required to get
the proper durability and to be doing this this right now.
Human nature, human nature says, and I'm gonna I'm gonna
(13:21):
I'm gonna speak to that, and I'm gonna say, you know,
I know what you're thinking out there, guys. No, no, No,
two coats is not the same as one heavy coat,
all right, right right, and I've seen it, one had one.
You try, you try to cut corners and lay this
down in one heavy coat. It's not going to dry properly,
(13:43):
and more importantly, it's not going to cure properly. Okay,
there's a difference between curing and drying, right, all right,
And what's gonna happen, what's gonna happen is you're gonna,
you're gonna, you're gonna, you're gonna get tired. You're gonna
get tire tracks when you pull back into that driveway
because it hasn't cured yet, and and it's still and
it's too thick and and like I said, I've seen
(14:04):
that and so so, so you know, bite the bullet
and do it properly too. Uniform coats a couple of
hours apart. You can tell when you can tell when
the first code is starting to is dry, because it
will be obvious because you know, the the the the
the liquid, the waters in it are starting to evaporate,
(14:25):
and it's gonna the surface will look it's going to
look more shiny when you when you first lay it down.
But when it turns Matt, then you know. Then then
when the when the area when your driveway turns Matt,
you can do the next you can do the next coat.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Can you stand on that then, Bob.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
A few hours later? Okay, that's the the the two
to four depending on everything is dependent on on temperature
and humidity. Gary, you know, if it's a if it's
a if it's a hot, muggy day down south, you've
got to wait a couple of hours before you can
you know, you don't want to, you don't want to track, you.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Know, right, so that second coat is wet on dry,
is what we're saying.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Correct, Yes, yes, but even even even you know too
even coats. That's right, that's right now. Now you know,
back up, you know, going back up to the advance.
Another advantage of the one thousand that's got so much dry,
so many extra dryers in there. You can you can,
you know, on a decent day, you can literally walk
on that and in an hour or two.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Okay, I'll tell you what. Let's take a real quick
break and then we can tell everybody where to get it,
and uh even maybe doing a little prep in terms
of patching. As we continue, I have Bob Berman. He
is with Blackjack Coatings, and we're talking about the product
I've talked about now for probably about eight years, is
the Blackjack Drive Max. How it's really in a category
(15:54):
by itself. And we'll continue. You're at home with Gary Sullivan.
Bob Beerman, he is, my guess, he is with Blackjack Codings.
(16:16):
We're talking about the Blackjack Drive Max ten years and uh,
with all the euro thanes and the resins and everything.
It doesn't fade like the old asphalt seelers he used
to fail.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Correct, that is for sure, that is for sure. It
is a it is a deep I mean it's it's
it's a deep, rich black queue that you're going to
get now.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
And it.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Really it really enhances the whole look of your property
when you when you do do it, and you know
you will start a trend on your block. If you
do it, you're going to see the rest of your
neighbors do it not far after.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Right, right, So keep your buckets, put them out by
the driveway. Right, everybody can tell what they're using. That's good.
That's good. That's how we learned. So where do people
get the blackjack drive max?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Okay, you're you're, you're, We're available nationwide, you know, north south, east,
west Sea, the shigning seat at uh at at Low's
a stores, uh home depots, all the top national hardware
and uh and home center retailers. Do it fast, your
old your old company.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
There uh uh Gary.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
And true value is true value as well. I don't know,
you really got me thinking we went to commercial. I
went I went right from washing the surface to you know,
applying the seiler and you brought it up. Do I
have another minute to just talk to me about a.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Couple of minutes to go? But yeah, I guess cracks.
Everybody's got cracks and asphalt and concrete, so we better
take of that, take care of that before we start
sealing it.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
That's the exactly I I glossed right over that. So
I'm glad you. I'm glad you caught me there. Gary.
So yes, obviously you've got to after you wash the
surface and uh, you know, survey what kind of patching
needs to be done. You know, inherently over time you're
gonna see some you're gonna see some uh hairline cracks,
medium cracks, larger cracks and uh uh you know water
(18:23):
you know, we we want to patch those because we
don't want water seeping in uh and getting under your
under your as well. So we've got the speed Fill
line is our line of patching products. And uh it's
basically uh in in three in three viscosities uh that
you'll find. So you've you've got you've got, uh you know,
(18:46):
for a for a wider cracks, you've got easy to
use you know, ten ounce cock tubes that that you
know I used to using uh you know phil fill
that uh fill those voids with with with that for
smaller cracks now, which which you probably have more of
those than anything. Uh. We've got the speed fill rubber
(19:07):
eyesed elastic crack filler, and that's available. That's a little
a little smaller viscosity.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
But we'll take the smaller corrects and right.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, it comes in. It comes in a it comes
in a gallon plastic jug like a like a windsh
you'll wash your jug and uh it's got a poor
spot in there, you cut it off and you just
pour as you go and uh and and that'll take
care of your smaller cracks. Now, if you've got you've.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Got, we're gonna have the scoot. Uh apologize, but let
me send everybody for more information and where to buy
it and some more information on the whole process. It's
Blackjack Coatings dot com. The product we've been talking about
is the Blackjack Drive Max. Thanks very much, Bob for
joining us. I appreciate it. You're at home with Gary.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Sullivan weekends, I mean, a never ending list of things
to do around your home. Get help at one eight
hundred and eighty two three Talk you're at home with
(20:17):
Gary Sullivan,
All right, let's get the broom out, let's get the
bucket out, and then let's bring in Bob Beerman he
is with Blackjack and Bob how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Oh, I'm great, Gary. Thanks for having me on Happy,
Happy driveway stealer season.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
It is, isn't it? And for those folks that wait
till October, don't do.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
That right right, you're right, although, as you're gonna hear,
we do have a product for those late season okay customers, So.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
So quick background Bob, as I was in the hardware
business and had some do it best stores for years,
and it used to always crack me up. Is you know,
everybody Russian in October and start being frosty in the
Leisa be fallen and I can't find sealers anywhere, and
it's like, well, you got it all summer to do
(01:04):
this in spring, but you are.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
You were you. There's a lot of procrastinators in this
uh with with driveway seilers, That's that's for sure. But
like I said, you're gonna hear, we've got to we've
we've got a product for those procrastinators.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
But for years now, I've been talking about the black
Jack drive Max, which is the best. What makes it
so different than other drive driveway sailers out on the market.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Well, well, Gary, for one, it's our it's our years
of it's the years that we've been in business. Okay,
you know we're our company has just just been making
these products for for decades. Blackjack actually started in nineteen thirteen,
so uh so, so we've got the years of experience,
but also but also the technological advancement, uh have been
(02:01):
there as well, because there's been many changes. I mean,
the the e p A actually mandated going from the
old smelly stuff. You know, people of a certain age
may remember, you know, walking out of the house on
a summer morning and you could smell in the air
somebody's doing their driveway, you know, and.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Sure, and they'd last about ten years at max.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yes, yes, and so now there's more so so the
EPA mandated uh uh you know that that for residential sealers,
that that they've become water based and uh and uh,
our products are far more than just asphalt and water.
So there's uh, there's uh, there's uh technology. That's so
they're actually somewhat more sophisticated than they used to be.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
So I get asked. Since I've been talking about this
for years, I get asked a lot of questions about
blacktop seilers. And one of the questions I get all
the time is, you know what should I use? And
you you have a whole scale of different sailors.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Correct, we do? We we do? And and and the
ones that I would really hone in and feature with today,
we've got to we've got a good better invest scenario,
h Gary. You know, having having having owned hardware stores,
you probably have plenty of good better invest memories for
your product lines inside. So if I could, Yeah, So
(03:29):
the drive Max We've we've got three that I'm gonna
talk about, the drive Max five hundred, the seven hundred,
and the one thousand. Okay, So the good okay, the
starter product is the drive Max five five hundred, all right,
And that's got a five year The number on the
(03:50):
bucket kind of ties into the expected durability of the product.
So the five hundred has got has got a five
five year durability expectation. And uh, it's a it's a
very thick product. Uh it's it's it's asphalt with with
with sand and aggregate, you know, to fill to fill
(04:11):
the pores. It's does it does its job. I mean
it's a uh. You don't want to use tooth thin
of a material because then you're just basically uh covering
your driveway aesthetically. You know where these products and I'm
talking about today actually protect the asphalt. So so the
five hundred. So the five hundred is our workhorse, our
(04:32):
basic as I said, our basic asphalt. Uh, it's got
an easy stir formula, but plenty of aggregate in and
sand in there to fill in the pores on the asphalt.
Then we move up into the Then we move up
into the better okay, which is the Drivemax seven hundred,
and you're going to get more longevity on that. The
(04:52):
seven hundred means you're gonna there's a seven year expectation
of durability for that product. So you're getting everything that
you're getting in the five year, but now now you're
there's more bells and whistles as we go up the line.
Here you're getting you're getting a better value proposition. But
so you're getting you're getting the you're getting the basic
(05:13):
five year, but now you're getting into a gel uh formula,
which means that it's smoother and easier to apply. And
uh and it's also late text fortified, which gives it
some extra it gives the asphalt extra strength. So so
you got good better and then the top of the line.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I'm interested in, Bob, because I'm all about easy.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Okay, well there you go there there now, now we're
getting to the star of our show. Okay, and that
and that's the Drivemax. That's the Drive Max one thousand.
Now you're getting up into the ten year that the
ten year expected durability and uh and and really we've
thrown a lot into that product. You've got everything the
(06:00):
other two the first two have, but now you're getting
you're you're you're getting uh eurethane enhanced product. And eurethane
is a is A is a great chemical uh uh
for adhesion.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, we're you're thinking about eurethane trimming amel. That Sherman
Williams has eu athane clocking for concrete. And now the
eurethane is in the Blackjack drive.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Backs exactly, it's it's in. It's in it's in deck
stains now you know so the elite yes, yes, so
really it's an important it's a it's an important uh
part of the part of the product itself. Besides the adhesion,
the eurethane also has some flexibility so that you know
(06:51):
that the longer the product is down, you know, we
know there's we know, you know, freezing thaw or the
folks up north, uh, you know that occur occur every season.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
The expansion and contraction the you know, the earth, the
settling and such maybe below so you're getting you're getting
movement in the product as well. So so that's that
that's really the highlight of what it does. Okay, the
other the other UH features and attributes that are important
(07:22):
on the drive Max one thousand is that is that
when you're when you're putting it down it we've got
extra dryers in there so that you know, typically driveway
sailor it takes a few hours to the drive before
you can walk on it on on it all depends
on humidity, of course, but on a dry on a
on a normal dry day, you can you can lay
(07:43):
the one thousand down and you can be walking on
it in in uh in an hour or two. So
that you know, that's an added feature.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Is this formula also this is a gel.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Formula also exactly exactly right, yes, yeah, easyre it just
overall easier to spread. So the part that you mentioned
about the procrastinators are going to get to this now
because because size, the extra dry the earthane, the extra
dryers in the product. All right, we've chemically, we've we've
(08:17):
made this were we've made this product that's allowed you
can put it down as low as forty five degrees.
And that is so unique.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yes it is, because.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yes, yes, because typically driveway seilers you don't want to
it's it's temperature sensitive. You don't want to put it
down when it's too cold. You don't want to put
it down when it's too hot. So you want you
want the basic daily temperature to be sixty degrees and rising,
but below ninety okay, now by sixty degrees in rising
that's twenty four hours, all right, So that so that
(08:51):
you know, here here here, we know people will run
into the store and I'm sure you had that you know,
it was forty degrees at night and they you know, and
all of a sudden it's seventy that day. Well, I
got to do my driveway. You know, that's not gonna
that's not going to help the adhesion of the cure process.
So that's why, that's why you know, you depending on
(09:11):
the area of the country here, and you know, middle
of the summer is a good time to be doing that.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Sure, sure, sure driveway seiler as a whole has changed tremendously, correct.
I mean I remember as a kid that would be
like my job, and it always seemed like it was
the hottest August day in the world. We had to
put that down and take like two days to dry.
And now we're talking about a gel formulas. So how
(09:37):
do you install these newer products? How do you apply?
What's the best way? And there's no adhesion problems? I
guess if we prep everything correctly.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Well, I just like painting, you're exactly right. Your you're
you know, first of all, First of all, you want
the driveway, you want your your asphalt to be. You
want it to be dry, but but clean, you know,
so so you know, day before or or as best
you can get out there with your garden hose and
some detergent. And if there's there are oil spots on there,
(10:11):
you may want to use a degreaser. But you know,
just like painting a wall, you don't put paint over dirty,
dirty walls, same way, same way when you're coating a
drive weight. It's not you want to you want to
get that clean, but uh uh, you know, free of
oils is very important. I recommend that that when you
do go out to get your product, try to get
it if possible, try to get it the day before.
(10:32):
And when you bring it home and and unload it,
put the buckets, turn the buckets, over lay them on,
lay them upside down, because so that the product can disperse.
That's going to help. That's going to help the next
day when you start to put it down, it's going
to be you don't have to stir as much or
because you will see if you open the bucket right
(10:53):
out of the store, it's there, you will see some separation.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Different So you get profits in here exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yes, yes, yes, Now the way that the the tool
the best tool to me. Number one, you got to
have a squeegee. Okay, So so so you pour you know,
bucket by bucket, you'll pour about you know, a third
and half of the bucket out you know, in an
area that you can control, and you have a poll
(11:24):
with a squeegee on it. But I recommend besides the squeegee.
I really recommend finding a tool that has a squeegee
on one side and you can flip it over and
there's a bruck on the.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Other that's the old standard driveway application, sir, I mean, yes,
And what why do you need both to get it
in the crevices of the existing sphalt.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah, because everybody's driveway is different depending on age and stuff.
You're you know, you're going to have some areas that
are that may be a little bit more porous, a
little bit rougher, and and and so after you pour
it out, after you first pour it out, you'll you'll
you'll kind of lay it out evenly by by the squeegee, okay,
(12:09):
and you're going to see areas there that may take
more product or less product. And that's when you flip
the That's when the brush comes into play, because you
can you can you can you can you know, literally,
you know, literally agitator scrub product better into the pores. Sure, yes, yes,
so that's a great that's a great tool.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Of the other thing, old shoes, old shoes. Make sure
you're wearing shoes that you're you're plan on throwing out. Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Is this a one step coat or is this two coats?
Or how thick should it be? I think you explained
on how thick it was going to be. You're distributing
with a squegee and kind of working it into the asphalt.
Is there a secondary coat or anything?
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Gary, Thank you for asking that. Absolutely, this is a
mandatory two quote two cote operation, whether it be the
five hundred all the way up to the thousand, it's
a two two uh. Uniform coats are required to get
the proper durability and to be doing this this right now.
Human nature, human nature says, and I'm gonna I'm gonna
(13:21):
I'm gonna speak to that, and I'm gonna say, you know,
I know what you're thinking out there, guys. No, no, No,
two coats is not the same as one heavy coat,
all right, right right, and I've seen it, one had one.
You try, you try to cut corners and lay this
down in one heavy coat. It's not going to dry properly,
(13:43):
and more importantly, it's not going to cure properly. Okay,
there's a difference between curing and drying, right, all right,
And what's gonna happen, what's gonna happen is you're gonna,
you're gonna, you're gonna, you're gonna get tired. You're gonna
get tire tracks when you pull back into that driveway
because it hasn't cured yet, and and it's still and
it's too thick and and like I said, I've seen
(14:04):
that and so so, so you know, bite the bullet
and do it properly too. Uniform coats a couple of
hours apart. You can tell when you can tell when
the first code is starting to is dry, because it
will be obvious because you know, the the the the
the liquid, the waters in it are starting to evaporate,
(14:25):
and it's gonna the surface will look it's going to
look more shiny when you when you first lay it down.
But when it turns Matt, then you know. Then then
when the when the area when your driveway turns Matt,
you can do the next you can do the next coat.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Can you stand on that then, Bob.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
A few hours later? Okay, that's the the the two
to four depending on everything is dependent on on temperature
and humidity. Gary, you know, if it's a if it's
a if it's a hot, muggy day down south, you've
got to wait a couple of hours before you can
you know, you don't want to, you don't want to track, you.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Know, right, so that second coat is wet on dry,
is what we're saying.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Correct, Yes, yes, but even even even you know too
even coats. That's right, that's right now. Now you know,
back up, you know, going back up to the advance.
Another advantage of the one thousand that's got so much dry,
so many extra dryers in there. You can you can,
you know, on a decent day, you can literally walk
on that and in an hour or two.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Okay, I'll tell you what. Let's take a real quick
break and then we can tell everybody where to get it,
and uh even maybe doing a little prep in terms
of patching. As we continue, I have Bob Berman. He
is with Blackjack Coatings, and we're talking about the product
I've talked about now for probably about eight years, is
the Blackjack Drive Max. How it's really in a category
(15:54):
by itself. And we'll continue. You're at home with Gary Sullivan.
Bob Beerman, he is, my guess, he is with Blackjack Codings.
(16:16):
We're talking about the Blackjack Drive Max ten years and uh,
with all the euro thanes and the resins and everything.
It doesn't fade like the old asphalt seelers he used
to fail.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Correct, that is for sure, that is for sure. It
is a it is a deep I mean it's it's
it's a deep, rich black queue that you're going to
get now.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
And it.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Really it really enhances the whole look of your property
when you when you do do it, and you know
you will start a trend on your block. If you
do it, you're going to see the rest of your
neighbors do it not far after.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Right, right, So keep your buckets, put them out by
the driveway. Right, everybody can tell what they're using. That's good.
That's good. That's how we learned. So where do people
get the blackjack drive max?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Okay, you're you're, you're, We're available nationwide, you know, north south, east,
west Sea, the shigning seat at uh at at Low's
a stores, uh home depots, all the top national hardware
and uh and home center retailers. Do it fast, your
old your old company.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
There uh uh Gary.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
And true value is true value as well. I don't know,
you really got me thinking we went to commercial. I
went I went right from washing the surface to you know,
applying the seiler and you brought it up. Do I
have another minute to just talk to me about a.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Couple of minutes to go? But yeah, I guess cracks.
Everybody's got cracks and asphalt and concrete, so we better
take of that, take care of that before we start
sealing it.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
That's the exactly I I glossed right over that. So
I'm glad you. I'm glad you caught me there. Gary.
So yes, obviously you've got to after you wash the
surface and uh, you know, survey what kind of patching
needs to be done. You know, inherently over time you're
gonna see some you're gonna see some uh hairline cracks,
medium cracks, larger cracks and uh uh you know water
(18:23):
you know, we we want to patch those because we
don't want water seeping in uh and getting under your
under your as well. So we've got the speed Fill
line is our line of patching products. And uh it's
basically uh in in three in three viscosities uh that
you'll find. So you've you've got you've got, uh you know,
(18:46):
for a for a wider cracks, you've got easy to
use you know, ten ounce cock tubes that that you
know I used to using uh you know phil fill
that uh fill those voids with with with that for
smaller cracks now, which which you probably have more of
those than anything. Uh. We've got the speed fill rubber
(19:07):
eyesed elastic crack filler, and that's available. That's a little
a little smaller viscosity.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
But we'll take the smaller corrects and right.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, it comes in. It comes in a it comes
in a gallon plastic jug like a like a windsh
you'll wash your jug and uh it's got a poor
spot in there, you cut it off and you just
pour as you go and uh and and that'll take
care of your smaller cracks. Now, if you've got you've.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Got, we're gonna have the scoot. Uh apologize, but let
me send everybody for more information and where to buy
it and some more information on the whole process. It's
Blackjack Coatings dot com. The product we've been talking about
is the Blackjack Drive Max. Thanks very much, Bob for
joining us. I appreciate it. You're at home with Gary.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Sullivan weekends, I mean, a never ending list of things
to do around your home. Get help at one eight
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(20:17):
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