55KRC Friday Show - Tech Friday, Mission Out Of Control

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Five O five.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
I think you about KRC the talk stations Happy Friday.
It is putting an exclamation point on the fact that

(00:34):
it is Friday. Thank you Joe Strecker for the exclamation point.
Brian Thomas right here, glad to be. I hope you're
having a wonderful morning, and I hope you have a
wonderful day and weekend. Get that out of the way
and talk about what's coming up. Well, this is Friday,
meaning tech Friday with Dave hatter As. The Biden administration
says it won't enforce the TikTok man Republicans and Democrats
are scrambling to figure out a way to keep TikTok around. Why, Well,

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it's like the comment of me the other day about
menthol six when the FDA was talking about banning menthol.
The Democrats found out that there are a lot of
people who usually vote for Democrats, namely black folks. They
like mental cigarettes in a large majority of the black
smokers lean menthol. So you don't do that because you
really piss people off and you might lose votes. Well,
there's a lot of people on TikTok, and a whole

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lot of people of both political stripes are on TikTok
and are elected officials. In spite of the fact that
they passed the law banning TikTok and Joe Biden cided
it into law, they're now trying to figure out in
spite of the fact that there is no current buyer
out there, they're trying to figure out a way to
keep TikTok alive and not anger their constituents. Well tech

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fridays they've had it will tell you every week, don't
get on TikTok, stay off it. It's just soaking up
all of your data. That's the point, helping out the
Chinese Communist Party and its nefarious goals. Anyway, today Apple
to pay a settlement over claims Siri was eavesdropping on you.
Understanding the way those things work, I don't know how

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that could be a shock to anybody that there was eavesdropping. Anyway,
Brad Pitt accused of scamming a woman out of money.
Apparently someone pretending to be using I suppose artificial intelligence
or something. Brad Pitt actually did scam some woman out
of hundreds of thousands of dollars. A heartbreaking story. So
we'll find out how that happened and how you can

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avoid it from happening, which is the ultimate point of
talking about something like that. And meet your new one
hundred and seventy five thousand dollars artificial intelligence girlfriend whatever,
Jared not. Jared is an author. He'll join the program
at seven forty with a book Tiny Blunders, Big Disasters.

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This is book two, kind of. I think it's a
lighthearted look at it's thirty nine tiny mistakes that changed
the world forever. We've talked with Jared in the past
and it's usually a pretty funny conversation about how the
tiniest little thing can result in the most tremendous influences
on history, like wars being lost because someone dropped a helmet,

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the things of that nature. So we had them on
for book one. We've got to get this new book.
That'll happen at seven point forty. Doctor Charles Camarada with
the book Mission out of Control. He'll be on at
eighth five to talk about that book. Astronaut doctor Charles
Camarata uncovered a recurring cause of accidents that no one

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has articulated yet. Lots of research. Culture that places a
premium on learning and the quest for knowledge and what
that means shows how to develop high performing teams and networks,
such as research teams to solve anomalies rapidly, which can
help prevent catastrophes in complex, high risk, high reliability organizations

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mission out of control astronaut research Engineer inventor. He'll be
on at eight oh five to talk about the details
in that book, a popy of which you'd be able
to get at fifty five KRC dot com. Speaking of
catastrophes and concerns and dangers. Lots of police officers are
going to be in Washington, d C. For the inauguration.
Kind of frightening stuff. I think it was Epoch Times

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where I found this information. But US national security agencies
are warning that the inauguration will be, in their words,
an attractive potential target for violent extremists. They don't have
any specific credible threats threats, but they're really geared up
for this because of all the chatter online and all
the prior threats that have manifested themselves, like the attempted

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assassination A couple of attempted assassinations of Donald Trump, said
potential perpetrators, particularly those with election related grievances. Hmm, I
wonder what that means. I might see this swearing in
as their last opportunity to influence election results through violence.
That's in the statement. Group of Intelligence and Law Enforcement

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Agencies wrote in a threat assessment. That threat assessment hasn't
been made public, but Politico got a copy of it. Sorry,
that's where I got this. Francis chung at Politico was
able to look at that. They leaked it. I suppose
they say the concerns reflect a heightened potential, potentially violent

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environment in which Trump will assume power. Law enforcement beefing
up security efforts. Get a load of this. Police from
all over the country going to be in DC City
Police Department reinforced with four thousand officers, Police Chief Pamela
Smith said apt press conference earlier this week, in addition
to one thousand officers supporting Capitol Police. In total, there

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will be approximately twenty five thousand law enforcement and military
personnel site on site to secure the inauguration. According to
Special Agent in charge for the Secret Service Washington Field Office,
Matt McCool, He said that on Monday to press conference,
so they've been on heightened alert since the assassination attempts.
The threat Assessment, compiled by the FBI, Secret Capital Police,

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Washington DC Government and Supreme Courts Police Department, laid out
a whole bunch of scenarios of the types of people who
could make it to the rally. Foreign terrorists, domestic extremists,
loan wolves can initiate bomb hoaxes. Previously alerted to us
by FBI Director Ray Outgoing, he is about lone wolves,
individuals with no online presence, and even if they were

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monitoring online presence real time, which they can't considering the
amount of data they gather up. Listen to my conversation
with Judge and Poltana from earlier this week. Anyway they
can initiate bob hoaxes, swatting calls, drone flights, vehicle ranning attacks.
Just you could just use your imagination and probably come
up with a book of potential potential threats or potential

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options that these crazy people would have to inflict some
sort of damage or pain or maybe murder. They talked
about Iran, which has already out loud, said they want
to kill Trump because of well the killing of General
I'm solo money. The threat assessment said that seven hundred
thousand users on the social media app Telegram threatened to

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assassinate Trump the day after the election day. Jeez, that
was a responsible video posted by media media entity aligned
with the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Group. Now, obviously you have
to take that with a grain of salt. Did seven
hundred thousand users really get influenced by the Islamic Revolutionary

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Guard Group? Of course that figure could have been blown
up by artificial intelligence and bock farms. But there it
is right there for all to read. Who are well
looking out for the safety and security the president, for
the inauguration and elsewhere, they say. Law enforcement officials also
worried that protests surrounding the inauguration could turn tumultuous. A

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bunch of groups have applied for demonstration permits, including some
groups that previously arrange protests that ended in arrest. Threat
assessments said pass protests by some of these individuals have
involved traffic blockades, trespassing, property destruction, and resisting arrest. ANTIPA
much document elson other protests related to the conflict in gods.

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They have disrupted Capitol Hill with little warning hmm, and
that that situation might inspire extremists here in our country,
many of whom may have come over the southern border
without any vetting process. AH former counter terrorism official who
helped with security planning for Joe Biden's inauguration, a guy

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named John Cohen, so that these events face. This year's
event faces more threats than Biden's in spite of the
fact that the swear again came right after the riots
in Capitol Hill. Even know of that as someone who
was involved in the planning for the last inauguration, the
threat environment was dangerous. As I sit here today, based
on the work I've been doing with law enforcement for

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the past four years, the threat environment today is even
more volatile and more dangerous than it was in twenty
twenty one, pointing to the assassination attempts, recent threats of
the Capitol broadening social attitudes that violence and destruction are
acceptable ways to express political views. Yep, no doubt about that.

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So fingers crossed. I personally, you know, it's like me
Or's eve on Times Square. That's like the last place
I'd want to be. I mean, first off, have you
ever see an overhead shot in the yars on Times Square?
Where do people go to the bathroom? Just a practical question.
That's just the idea that there's a million people standing around.

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How many law enforcement officers are standing around, not enough
ratio wise to adequately protect each and every individual that's
milling around on Times Square. Same thing at the inauguration.
Have no figures, and I haven't seen any estimates on
the number of people that are planning on going to Washington,
DC for the inauguration. But that's another one of those events.
I just don't think i'd like to be there. Keep

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my head down anyhow. It's okay, though. The FBI closed
its DEI office in December, so they no longer have
an office of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion getting ahead of
the Trump administration. They didn't say why they closed the office,

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but earlier this month, Senator Marshall Blackburn sent a letter
to the FBI director Christopher Ray, claiming that the radical
DEI practices had endangered Americas following the year's day a
terrorist attack in New Orleans, claiming deconcerned that the bureau
has prioritized diversity equity inclusion over its core mission of
protecting the American people YEP. One former Special Agent Nicole Parker,

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speaking with Fox News pointed out that Director Ray made
it clear that threats acrossing against the nation are at
all time high. Yes, I even read the notice from
Director Ray flashing red lights. He said in his congressional testimony.
There's no time for clubs, groups, or social agendas that
divert time, attention, and resources away from the mission of

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the FBI to protect the American people. Nicole Parker said,
pointing out DEI is a dangerous distraction. I have no
issue in celebrating whatever you would like regarding your heritage
or gender or religion, but that should be done on
your own time and not with the US taxpayer dollars.
While on official bureau times. Somebody put exclamation points after that.

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I wonder who did point it out. Also, the FPI
needs to folks on hiring the best and brightest solely
on meritocracy. Ah, I welcome change of pace from the
last four years and then the whole entire term of
the Obama administration. Let's focus on merit and then this

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is something I thought was bizarre talk about what the
FBI is focusing on.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
This.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Former FBI Special Agent Nicole Parker said that there are
numerous other groups aside from the DEI Office within the FBI, Ready,
the American, Indian and Alaskan Native Advisory Committee, the Asian
Pacific American Advisory Committee, Black Affairs Diversity Committee, Bureau of Equality,
Hispanic Advisory Board, Near and Middle East Advisory Committee, Persons

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with Disability Advisory Committee, Veterans of Fair Advisory Committee, and
the Women's Advisory Committee. Huh note the breaking down of
people by individual and sometimes minor classifications. What the hell anyway,

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Chelsea said. The Bureau is numerous resource groups, including Blacks
and Government, FBI, African American Millennials, FBI Family, FBI Jewish Americans,
FBI Latinas for Empowerment, Advancement and Development, FBI PRIDE, Federal
Asian Pacific American Council, Federal the Employed Women and From
Boots to Suits, and the Toastmasters Club. The DEI office

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was created in twenty twelve during the Obama administration. Parenthetically speaking, so,
I don't know if the closing of the DEI office
the FBI was timed well given all the resources and
time and effort and training classes and everything else they've
been focusing on within the FBI, rather than, as the

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former agent noted, focusing on fighting crimes stick arounds five
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Speaker 2 (13:48):
This is what's happening. The wings are back. We are
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we talked intation.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Friday.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Well, maybe we'll bring some sanity in the SNAP program.
Representative of Josh Breaching is pushing the Healthy SNAP Act,
which has the effect of barring junk food from being
eligible for purchase under these supplemental nutritional Assistance program SNAP.
I think this is a wonderful development. I don't I

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have never ever understood. You know, I worked at a
grocery store. My first job was at IgA as a
stock boy, and the first time I ever saw it
used to be food stamps, physical food stamps was our
worked at Findlay Market. But I watched is people would buy,
you know, really really crappy, crappy food, you know, and

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you're paying for that as a taxpayer. And I thought,
you know, this is a simple way of sort of
bringing a more nutritional reality of folks that are on
life's margins in the SNAP program, but why should you
be paying for candy bars and soft drinks. President Trump
is given a mandate by the majority of Americans to
make America healthy again, and those in his administration like
RFK Junior and Senator Marco Rubia have directly advocated for

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eliminating junk food purchases with SNAP, says Josh reaching from Oklahoma.
Someone wants to buy junk food on their own dime,
that is up to them, he said, But what we're
saying is, don't ask the taxpayer to pay for it
and then also expect the taxpayer to pick up the
tab for the resulting health consequences. So it would bar

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the use of food stamps to buy soft drinks, candy,
ice cream, prepared desserts like cakes, pies, cookies, and similar products.
According to the legislation that's been circulated. I find no
problem with that, he said. His bill. In addition to
the obvious health improvements, this bill will also result in
significant savings and taxpayer funds for such programs. Programs is Medicaid,

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where approximately one in four Americans are currently enrolled. You said,
federally funded healthcare for obesity and obesia related diseases has
reached four hundred billion dollars annually. That's according to the
Senate Joint Economic Committee report from twenty twenty three. We
can't afford to go down this road any longer as

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a nation. Yes, obesity is one element of problem, and
it also is linked to cancer. And I saw this
terrible statistics. You know me, cancer sucks, and it's wonderful.
Mortality rates for cancer have dropped thirty four percent since
nineteen ninety one. However, it's reported cancer rates in women
younger than fifty are now eighty two percent higher than

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men in that age category, which is a fifty one
percent increase since two thousand and two. That's frightening. Now,
that's just diagnosed. It's not mortality which has declined because
the treatments are better and people are being better about,
you know, getting ahead of things and looking out for
cancer and trying to detect it and paying attention to
issues with their own bodies. And the gain accord of

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the reporting increase in cancer rates among women in certain
ethnic groups maybe due to obesity, genetics, and environmental factors.
Going back to my point on obesity. There is a
direct corollary between likelihood of getting cancer and obesity. So
maybe the SNAP nutrition improvements, just by way of denying
people the ability to buy well soft drinks with food

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with SNAP may go a step in the right direction.
It's for your own good. Well, you can't take that
away from me. Why not you accept federal dollars with
strings attached? And if the public general public at large
is expected to pay everybody else's medical claims, medical claims

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that derive from bad behavior that could be avoided, then
this is a step in the right direction. That's my take.
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at d D yes Mike Wilburt, my submarine friend cribbage. Mike.
He says, So, if you're a gay African American woman
who is a veteran at the FBI, that's a lot
of meetings you would be attending. Yes, I'm trying to
find this bad guy. No, no, no, we have a
mandatory meeting. You fit one of the one of the

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the checkpoints, so you must be there. Anyhow, three people
shot Colrane Township and two have died. According to the
spokesperson for the township, there are two There were two
active scenes. Police are investigating outside the Walgreens and Popeyes,
which are on either sides of Coleraine Avenue. Third shooting victim,

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the one that didn't die, taking a UC medical center
in critical condition. Spokesperson said the two people died were
near the Popeyes, while the person taken to the hospital
was the one at the Walgreens across the street. Police
flock some of the parking lots and businesses near Coleraine
Avenue in Springdale Road during the initial investigation. Scene since
been cleared. Coring Police said although officers are no longer
investigating the scenes, the Popeyes, Duncan Donuts, and Shell gas

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station locations will remain closed for the rest Well remained
closed for yesterday afternoon, so the rest of the evening,
so I guess they were shut down all day yesterday.
Please haven't provided any information on a possible suspect of
the township. Spokesperson said. Investigators believe the shooting was targeted.
Is that near you, Joe, Yes, jeez. Have you noticed

(20:32):
a deterioration in the neighborhood over the last decade or so?
A little bit?

Speaker 1 (20:39):
All right?

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Well, Donald Trump was expected to They always say mass deportation,
and I'm I don't like that mass deportation because this
is not feasible selective deportation. I will embrace and they're
going to start with the criminal element. We all know
that has been widely circulated and talked about. It's one
of the things that won Trump the presidency. How's a
pervall gonna treat that? Sharon Kolech from The enquire reporting

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he is an Asian, noted by Sharon like if this
is important, speaking of checking the boxes, first Asian American
mayor of Cincinnati, also first person of a person of
Tibetan heritage to be elected to a prominent political office
in the United States. Parents came to America nineteen eighty
from New Delhi, India. So he's legal immigrant, but he
understands immigration.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
You know.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
It's like so many of our other friends, Orlando Sonza,
for example. And since no one is quite certain what
Trump's immigration policy is gonna look like when it unfolds,
perval pledged the city of Cincinnati will follow Trump's administrative
directors no matter what they are quote from have to parvoll.
If the President of the United States, backed by the

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Senate and House arrest representatives, wants to do something as
it relates to immigration, then they're going to do it.
And there's no mayor in the country, particularly a mayor
of a blue city in a row that state that's
going to be able to do anything about it. Close. Quote, well,
I think it's kind of refreshing. At least acknowledges his
hands are tied legally, that these can't do anything about

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immigration policy. The cooperation should be as close as it
was with the Biden administration. He said, Look, I'm a Democrat.
I disagree with a lot of what President Trump's administration
has said, but that they will I said that they
will prioritize and how they will govern. But it isn't

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about me as a person. This is about me as
a mayor and how to strike relationships and partnerships with everybody.
Just skeptical and partnerships with everybody in order to put
the city in the best possible position moving forward. And
that includes not picking political fights that we know we're
going to lose. What's more important to me is to

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have strong, productive relationship with the Trump administration whatever. Well,
it sounds like Aftab got the memo. One of the
reasons Trump won was because of his tough stance on
immigration bah and he knows the voters of this within
the city of Cincinnati, those over whom he lords also

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feel that way. He said. As mayor, I was sworn
into the Constitution and the Charter, and it's my job
to also uphold the law and to effectuate laws that
have been passed. So it's a tough position for sure.
I know mayors don't pass laws job, but they do
have to follow them. Hey, at least he's paying lip

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service to the notion that he's not going to try
to buck the system. There are other mayors in other
cities who have said, hell, no, over my dead body,
we're not going to help Trump do anything. We're not
going to lift the finger, and in fact engage in
measures to prevent the Trump administration from carrying out its
objectives with regard to deportation California, notably five point thirty

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you got something to talk about meanwhile, Wow, Friday stacking

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stupid naked people, you can always count on that, Thank you,
Joe Strecker. We have a woman arrested for after doing
a nude photo shoot on a popular seaside sculpture in Mexico,
Olga Lorera. There's videos video of this. Of course, there
is seen video footage stepping on the base of the

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La Perila sculpture in the city of La Pause Saturday
and then taking off her clothes as a photographer started
taking pictures. The thirty year old then hurled her dress
at the photographer and climbed on top of the monument,
which is described as resembling a pearl sitting in an
open clam. I can't believe you didn't use phrasing on

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that one. She posed in the sculptures. Traffic along the
two lane avenue next to the boardwalk slowed and bystanders
stared on the scene in shock. Then signaled to the
photographer to hand her the dress and climb down. She
was approached by a police and she was placed under
arrest taking a local prosecutor's office, released after paying a

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fine of three and sixty five pesos, which apparently the
current exchange rate translates to one and sixty three dollars.
She then posted the photoshoot pictures on Facebook before then
deleting them the nudest model Critical authorities, Why is the

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human body censored but not violence? Okay, you go ahead
and run with that one. Critical authorities for not for
not granting her the right to express herself. Guess who
is arrested for simply existing? She wrote, why is the
human body's censor but not violence? Nudity is not offensive,
It's natural. Let's stop the shaming, reclaim our freedom and

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normalize what is human.

Speaker 4 (26:32):
I don't make the rules, ma'am. I just think them
up and write them down.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
Yes, society's rules. Mobile, Alabama Police responded to a call
where and we're confronted by a nude guy who became
combative with officers, according to release for the Mobile Police Department.
As tradition, twelve thirty in the morning, five thousand block
of Druid to Drive, the police said, officers responding to

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a domestic dispute, we're confronted by a man wearing nothing.
After determining that the man, identified as sixty year old
Patrick Petaway was the aggressor in the incident, they tried
to detain him, but he resisted and tussled with them,
according to police, ultimately arrested on charge of a third
degree domestic violence, resisting arrest, and failure to obey law enforcement.

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Nothing about as a tradition charges relating to his public nunity.
How hard is it? Michigan, Berlin Township. Jeremy Johndre watching
Monday night football at his home when all of a
sudden he had an unwanted and completely naked visitor. What

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speak good news? Crazy weird, like never in a million years,
what I think that would happen to my little dead
end street here. I was enjoying the football game and
I heard I heard the back door open in the
dog bark, and a naked man came around the corner
and sat in the chair. He called for his wife
to call dial nine one one, but they'd already been called.

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Please said the man took off, But apparently this is
the backstory. Please said. The man took off his clothes
at the nearby Mier distribution center, then crossed Swan Creek Road,
ran through a field barefoot into Jendre's backyard. Why are
you doing that? Jondra said, in fact, we have to
mop up all of our floors because there was blood
from his feet bleeding on our floors. When we got done,

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do what the hell? An answer to my own question there, Joe,
thank you for the sound bite. He said. The suspect
was relatively calm and did give a reason why he
went inside the home. Quote he was looking for the
twelve women of color he was promised close quotes.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
That's this tradition.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Local Fox News. What does that mean, Jondre, I have
no idea. Sheriffs arrived and after a little struggle, arrest
of the naked guy, thirty thirty four year old man
from New York. Jondre said they got him finally locked
up with cuffs and put him in a car. Luckily
no injuries. Naked guy remains in jail, penning an arraignment

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on multiple charts, including a home invasion and here you
go indecent exposure. Jondras said, you want to feel bad,
but at the same time, it's hard to phrasing. That
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Think again by forty nine on a Friday, A happy
one to you Tech Part of the day hat or
at six thirty every Friday at six thirty, looking forward
to that. Oh and the doctor who wrote the book
about fighting against the COVID vaccine heat. Where was it California,

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Joe or Central Time? Oh? He was under the mistaken
impression that we here instance, I were on Central Time.
That's why he wasn't around to have the conversation when
Joe tried to reach him, so and he went, maybe
we'll endeavor to get him back on the program. I
was really interested in talking with him about that book.

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Return of the Stack of Stuke Stupid. What is described
as a shocking incident. You draw your own conclusions on
that subjective conclusion. A homeless man shot himself in the head. Rather,
it says hopeless man shot himself in the hat after
he was caught naked from the waist down in his
car as he approached the coffee shop in Arizona.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
Do what the hell.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Man identified as nauted him alone, apparently leading up to
the death began last Wednesday, when he arrived half naked
in the drive through with the Bikini Beans coffee shop.
Court to police. Man approached the staff, who noticed that
he had his pants pulled down while taking his order
to the employee, reported the tour manager, and the man

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pulled a at the drive through window, still naked. Manager
allegedly had already taken out her phone and recorded the man,
who was in fact pleasuring himself in the car. That
video then posted on social media, gaining a lot of
views when it went viral. Many in the Internet commented

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on the inappropriate behavior of touching him himself in front
of the manager. According to the Maricopa County Medical Examiner,
Malone drove himself to the city of Goodyear, Arizona, and
then committed suicide, shooting himself in the head on January eleventh.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
Dear what the hell.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Staff said. On the night of Malone's death, his family
members reached out to the coffee shop more aggressive. Malone
had killed himself over the incident, as told by the police.
Ben Lyles, owner of the Bikini Beans coffee told TMZ,
who was reporting on this, our thoughts and prayers with
the family of the individuals involved during this difficult time.
This was an unfortunate and tragic situation. As a company,
the safety of our employees is our top priority. In

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this case that we became chose to commit a crime
at one of our locations. We take incidents like this
very seriously and remain committed to protecting our team and
maintaining a safe and respectful environment. I guess she was
that embarrassed. Don't do that and the staka don't do that. Philadelphia,

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where a New Jersey fifth grade teachers accused of sexually
assaulting a student over a four year span. In investigators
alleged she had the boy's child do what the hell?
Thirty four year old Laura Corone of Cape May Courthouse,
New Jersey, charged with aggravated sexual assault, sexual assaultant, engaging
in the well, and endangering the welfare of a child.

(32:47):
She was the fifth grade teacher of Middle Township Elementary
School accused of engaging in sexual relationship with one of
her students, again fifth grade teacher. Investigators said the sexual
abuse began in twenty sixteen, when the student was around
eleven years old. Student was living at Crone's home with
his siblings at the time, and at times would wake
up in her bed. She continued to sexually assault the

(33:11):
student until twenty twenty, when the victim was fourteen or fifteen.
Investigators into the sexual abuse began in December after the
alleged victim's father posted on Facebook that Corone's five year
old child looked similar to him and his son. In
a text message called the victim admitted to family members
that he is the child's father. Criminal complaint said I'm sorry,
I thought this was a female Laura Corone anyway. January fifth,

(33:36):
twenty twenty five, Kate May County Prosecutor's Office, Mobile Township
Police and the Special Victims Unit took Coron into custody
without incident. They again, it is a woman, executed a
search horn on her home. I guess they had a
wrong pronoun there, at least it didn't say gee. Middle
Township School District notified the investigation and currently cooperating with
law enforcement.

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Well, you've reached the top, the pinnacle.

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Your dreams have come true, sharing the award. Forty year
old Elizabeth Dunlap Dubuke. Hempstead High School employee Elizabeth Dunlap
facing multiple charges after investigators said she sent nude photos
to a student and sexually exploited the student. Charged with

(34:36):
purchase possession, depiction of a miner, and a sexual act,
sexual exploitation by a school employee in telephone dissemination of
obscene material to a minor. Complaints said that the Buke
Sheriff's Office started investigating Dunlap for sexual exploitation by a
school employee November of twenty four after Hempstead High School
students reported she was involved in a sexual relationship with

(34:57):
his student. That's gonna said, done Lap and the student
communicated between the September of twenty twenty four November of
twenty four. During that time, she sent multiple nude photos
to the student using Snapchat, and the student sent nude
photos back to Dunlap. That's going to say. Dunlop would
pick up the student from his home, drive to another
location where they would hang out in the back of

(35:18):
her mini van. Student admitted to investigators he had sex
with Dunlap on November fourteenth. Wow, and let me assure you,
unlike so many of these these teachers that get caught
engage in these twisted and perverted actions, you look at
them and you're like, what is a really pretty young lady?

(35:40):
Not the case with miss Dunlap, and I know subjectivities. Yeah,
uh huh, that would have been easy and easy decision.
Don't go away. Coming up off top of the our
news gut lot's talk about. But it is Tech Friday,
So at six point thirty, Dave had a return to
the program to give us some sound advice.

Speaker 7 (35:57):
So stick around counting down Hello as we welcome back
President Trump.

Speaker 8 (36:02):
For the next four years are just gonna be incredible.

Speaker 7 (36:05):
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have a great weekend.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Looking forward to bottom of hours I always do every Friday,
six thirty Tech Friday with Dave Hanner. Apple had to
pay a settlement over Siri eavesdropping on you. Brad Pitt
accused of scamming a woman out of money. No, it
wasn't Brad Pitt. Artificial intelligence Brad Pitt. I guess I
read the facts of that one, and we're going to
talk about it in detail with Dave but if you've

(36:33):
got an out of the blue text message from someone
purporting to be Brad Pitt, or in this particular case,
it started out with someone purporting to be Brad Pitt's mom,
would you take it seriously? I would like to think
the answer anybody in my listening audiences is absolutely no.
Who would fall for that anyway? Plus, meet your new

(36:54):
one hundred and seventy five thousand dollars artificial intelligence girlfriend
robot girlfriend. I guess desperate times call for desperate measures.
Jared now with the book Tiny Blunders, Big Disasters. This
is book too. We've had Jared on the program before,
just wild, true stories about little things that happened that

(37:16):
cause you know, epic well changes in the world forever
into the Roman Empire. The fall of Constantinople in fourteen
fifty three came about because someone forgot to close and
lock a major gate. You remember that one from the
first one. I believe anyhow, he'll be on at seven
forty to talk about that new book. They're fun and
I do believe, and I always use this term, you know,

(37:39):
in a positive light. You're like a bathroom book where
you can just sort of pick it up and read
one and then put it back down again. So that's
the type of book it is. I believe Jaredill come
on talk about seven forty doctor Charles Camarda with a
book mission out of control. Doctor Charles Camarda is an astronaut,
or was anyway, so he's uncovered. I guess the system

(37:59):
to deal with well accidents, loss of a research culture
that places a premium on learning and the quest for
knowledge and what that means. So rather interesting. It's kind
of a cryptic description of the book on Amazon as well,
so we'll all find out together at eight oh five
with doctor Charles Kamara. You can feel free to call
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hundred eighty two to three taco with pound five fifty
on AT and T funds. And why wasn't this done sooner?
Since it is Tech Friday. Joe Biden just got done
signing an executive or to strengthen the United States cybersecurity capabilities.
This after a long series of reported incidents of the
Chinese Communist Party and other foreign actors hacking into our system.
So why wouldn't this done earlier? The January sixteenth ordered, Wow,

(38:45):
just a moment in time ago at the very end
of his presidency, now mandates new security requirements for software
used by government entities and contractors, establishes a national certification
program for secure technology, and lowers the threshold required for
imposing tariffs on malicious cyber actors. Oh tariffs, huh, I
thought the Democrats didn't like those. White House fact sheet

(39:10):
that was shared said the order will serve to counter
malicious countries and criminals while also propelling the United States
to adopt the type of security first practices that are
already required by many other nations. Behind the eight ball
on security, folks, the United States stands alone among other
major economies and lacking secure privacy preserving digital identity infrastructure,

(39:31):
leaving Americans exposed to a wave of cybercrime. That's the
court to the fact sheet. They have new requirements for
software providers who work with government in this well executive order.
Executive Order identifies minimum industry cybersecurity standards and practices required
for all companies doing business with the federal government and

(39:53):
requires the government software vendors to provide evidence that their
products were developed using secure practices. Yeah, Dave talks about
all the time. You know, most software was developed with
the idea of fulfilling some sort of task or purpose.
Security last thing on the list when the software is
being developed, so maybe this will help prioritize security and
put it at the forefront. Also orders the Cybersecurity Infrastructure

(40:17):
Security Agency SISA to receive analyzed track and that evidence
to ensure that companies are actually using the secure development practices.
So there's the government trying to keep an eye on
and see that people are following the edicts and mandates
from government. That doesn't happen very often. It sounds so
much fraud, waste, and abuse in government. There's no SISA

(40:38):
version of oversight and accounting to make sure that fraudulent
claims aren't processed and money isn't going to evil actors
like PPP loans anyway. So hopefully that will bear fruit
and provide us with greater security. I mean, at least
I have no opposition to the idea that we're cracking

(40:58):
down on and insisting on greater security protocols given everything
we know about well again going back to the Chinese
Communist Party, and here's the ultimate I guess downside of
all things tech and US not teaching our children common
sense skills. New data shows that many Gen Z generation

(41:20):
kids folks generally speaking, struggle with basic do it yourself tasks.
According to report from the New York Post, a lot
of them don't even know how to change a light bulb. Joe,
did you have to tell your children? Explain to your
children how to how to change a light bulb?

Speaker 9 (41:39):
No?

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Did this like comes naturally? It screws in, screws out.
I mean, if you've been alive more than five minutes,
you've probably seen someone do that. Any tubervill of Halford's,
which is UK based monitoring and cycling retailers, said the
ability to do basic practical task is being lost among
younger generations. They said, we haven't really had to do

(42:01):
things for themselves. That from a psychologist at New York University.
She said, so much of their and all of our
lives are automated. Convenient outsource, which is today's generation of
young people have been identified from way more than past generation.
So it makes complete sense that Gen Z simply doesn't

(42:22):
know how to do as much with regard to non
tech or independent tasks. Court of the report, they surveyed
two thousand adults determine that nearly twenty five percent of
gen Zers don't know how to change a ceiling light bulb. Why.
They cited safety concerns like hot bulbs or latter risks.

(42:48):
Man up of sexist would say, instead of attempting the task,
many prefer the phrase got geotes or in other words,
get others to do it. No, that is Dad changed

(43:09):
the light bulb exactly, Joe, That's exactly what it is.
Harpin's analysis found that gen Z spends over fifteen hundred
dollars annually hiring professionals for basic household tasks, compared to
four hundred and seventy dollars for gen X and three
hundred for baby boomers. And it is noted in the

(43:33):
article Joe that many gen Zers rely on their parents
for chores like car cleaning, with less than half knowing
how to whole ad to add air to a tire
or replace a windshield wiper blade. Well, it comes with
blanket instructions. Man Joe agrees with that. He says, that

(43:55):
is true, but car cleaning, dude, would you go and
clean my car for me?

Speaker 9 (44:03):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (44:03):
My dad? Like, I got two words for you? An
ain't happy birthday? No. The Post wrote that nearly thirty
percent of gen zers can't identify a flathead screwdriver, twenty
one percent don't recognize a wrench, and that one intent

(44:26):
would call a professional for the purposes of hanging a picture.
Let's see what Steve's got this morning, Steve, welcome to
the Morning Show. Happy Friday to you.

Speaker 10 (44:38):
That that's nice and refreshing, and that mad me feel
good about our future. Uh, and we're all going to
be dependent on them to keep the Social Security system
propped up. That's great.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
I hope that is not the perception of my listening audience,
because I.

Speaker 10 (44:52):
Well, yeh know, well I'm sixty two, so I'm a
little older than you, and that's going to segue into
my Jimmy Carter in a second. But just what you
just said, I mean, he used to bug me to
no end. My neighbor did construction work and he would
moonlight on the weekends. Remember that term moonlighting where people

(45:13):
actually worked six seven days a week. And he had
teenage and then early twenty something boys and the garbage.
This just bothered me for some reason. The garbage would
get picked up and it was at the street and
it's an empty garbage can. The entire family would walk
by it, and this guy would come home seven o'clock

(45:35):
in the evening and drag the garbage can to the house.
And it bothered me to no end. And I don't
know how it didn't bother him. But they kind of
grow up not having to do anything, I guess. And
he would mow the grass himself, and I'm like, where
are your kids, Why aren't they mowing? I was bone
grass at twelve years old. Yeah, I can or whatever
with a push moower. It's no big deal, but I

(45:56):
mean whatever. So I was going to talk about a
couple of things, but I know we're going to be
short on time. And I know he died a few
weeks ago, and he's probably a real nice guy. And
you know, I'm sure if I met Jimmy Carter, I
would have enjoyed talking to him. He had no business
being president. I was. I was born in Miami, Florida,

(46:16):
in nineteen sixty two and graduated high school in nineteen eighty.
My memory, my biggest memory of Jimmy Carter the Maryelle
boat lift, which dumped one hundred thousand Cuban immigrants, most
of them emptied out of prisons and mental institutions on Miami, Florida.

(46:38):
And we lived with that for years, and we had
people living under the bridges downtown. I was in the
southwest part of Miami. I was in the suburbs. But
it was the crime exploded. The TV show Miami Wece
came out of that and everything because of all the crime,
and it was a lot of different things. He was

(46:59):
hopelessly naive. In other words, he did what a nice
guy would do. Yeah, we'll welcome them all. But he
didn't have the vision to say, wait a minute, what
what might this dictator do bring about?

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (47:12):
Yeah, and no, no, no insight into that. So nice
guy probably never You know, you're a nice guy. I
don't think you should be president. I mean, yeah, I agree,
I mean I'm a reasonably nice guy. I shouldn't be president.
But again, you know, it happened. But that's my memory
of him really dumping a lot of criminal element on

(47:36):
the streets. Something the federal government did to one city
that really for for a half dozen years or so.
There were repercussions from that. There were to your weekend.
I know you you might want to wake up at
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Happy it's Friday, David, Yeah, because we have talked with
David Hatter. Dave Hatter coming up next. And on the
heels of the article, did the study that gen xers

(51:14):
don't know how to unscrewed light bulbs or change light bulbs?
I don't know. Maybe is there a lazy component about that?
Because I saw this article Progressive Capitol Hill staffers. There
is something called the Congressional Progressive Staff Association. They have

(51:35):
proposed establishing a rotating thirty two hour work week for
folks working in Washington, d C. Saying reduced hours could
improve workers' satisfaction, increase staff retention in Congress, and model
a more sustainable approach to work on a national level.
See it starts here with federal offices, and then it'll

(51:56):
spread out to the general public. And that's kind of
what they suggested in their statement. Group said in the letter,
we do not want a thirty two hour work week
just to be another special benefit for congressional staff. Oh no,
we hope that by adopting this policy, members of Congress
can help to advance the discussion around a more sustainable
work week. What in the hell does that mean? Yeah?

(52:17):
Thank you, Joe more sustainable work week as a national
priority and a model for how it can work for
private and public employers across the country in the world.
So they start with the federal employees and then it'll
spin out to your business, and you might be saying great.
Bernie Sanders is behind this. He had legislation implementing a

(52:41):
thirty two hour work week previously. However, even some Democrats
realize this is a stupid idea, given the Trump's getting
ready to be inaugurated. Tim hugg and Democratic Communications consulting
former Hill staffer quote ll read the room, guys, Democrat

(53:03):
Richie Torres, why not be bold and asked for a
zero hour work week? I wonder how blue collar Americans
would feel about white collar workers demanding a thirty two
hour work week. Good. At least Democrats themselves are analyzing
this for what it is. Others suggested, like a representative
Chip Roy, progressive shit opt in easy Place to cut

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Next.

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Speaker 2 (55:12):
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Speaker 1 (55:30):
Man, my pleasure to be here.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
And I'm shocked that Apple has to pay a settlement.
That's because Siri was eavesdropping. The non shocking part, of course,
is that Siri was eavesdriving. Of course it was.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Yeah, Brian.

Speaker 13 (55:45):
It's funny because if you think about it, any so
called smart device that you can talk to has to
be listening to you in order to know when.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
You ask it to do something right.

Speaker 9 (55:55):
I mean.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (55:57):
So now the problem that is that when you look
at these smart devices in theory, they all have some
kind of you know, wake word, wake phrase, hot word,
whatever they call it on that particular platform. And in
theory like with Apple and I won't say it out
loud because we'll kick off, you know, thousands of devices
across Cincinnati. But when you when you ask for Siri

(56:19):
to do something right, then in theory, it starts listening
to you and responds to your requests.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Well, the word Siri alone is going to cause it
to start listening to you.

Speaker 13 (56:30):
You would think, you would think, Because here's the thing, Brian,
you have to think about this from the standpoint of
the people building this stuff. If something is listening to
you and waiting for you to ask it to do something,
the more narrow you make the window that it will act,
the more frustrating. It's going to be for people to
use right then, you know, the way you say Siri,

(56:52):
the way I say Siri, the way someone else says
Siri not going to be exactly the same. So, in general,
if you want your device to be used, you're going
to have to make the window that it will activate
on as wide as possible. Otherwise people are going to
get frustrated and they're not going to use the thing.
And there was a study done it's probably been maybe
three years now, where someone took a whole bunch of different.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
Devices that could.

Speaker 13 (57:17):
Listen to you and activate things like Google Home and
Alexa and Siri and other things, and put it in
a room, turned on a TV, and then they watched
how often did they activate? And it's pretty shocking to
anyone that cares about their privacy in my opinion, when
you look at the results of this, because it was
a lot more typical than I think most people would imagine.

(57:39):
Because again my argument is, you have to have the
thing be very loose in its requirements. Otherwise people are
going to get frustrated if you have to ask your
device to activate eight or nine times every time, because
you're not saying something exactly the way it wants it.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
How many times you're going to use that thing.

Speaker 13 (57:58):
So when you look at this, the thing that I
think is more frustrating, and I'm sure I've said it
on your show many times over the last ten years.
In general, Apple tends to be a more privacy friendly company.
All of these companies are collecting your data in some
form or fashion because your data is valuable. But generally speaking,

(58:21):
up to this point, Apple has tended to be more
privacy and security friendly because their business model is different.
They're not monetizing your data as their primary business model.
They're selling you hardware and software products. So this story,
to me is a little disturbing when you dig down
into it, and CNN did a real nice summary of it.
Apple to pay ninety five million in cash to settle

(58:43):
a proposed class action lawsuit. Of course, they claim no wrongdoing.
The class period runs from September seventeenth to twenty fourteen
to December thirty first, twenty twenty four That's a long
time to have your phone listening to your conversation. And
you know, the thing, I guess the most frustrating to
me is if you were in the class, so you
had this feature enabled, which I don't. I do not

(59:05):
have Syrian enabled on my phone and have never had
Syrian enabled on my phone, so I guess I won't
get my twenty dollars. That's what your privacy is worth
to Apple, twenty dollars. And then one reason the CNN
article is great is because they point out ninety five
million is about nine hours of profit for Apple. So
the twenty dollars you're going to get if you're in
this class. And I would encourage people who if you

(59:28):
have an Apple phone and you've used Siri in that time,
when I would, I would sign myself up and get
my twenty dollars and remind yourself just how little these
companies actually care about your privacy exactly.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
And don't forget the plane off lawyers who brought the
class action are probably going to take forty percent of
the ninety five million dollars.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
So anyway, that's not bad that's not a bad haul, right.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
Oh, that's one of the reasons why they settle for
money that really doesn't mean anything to Apple in terms
of compared to profit appreciated.

Speaker 13 (59:58):
Or to the or to the people get in the
twenty dollars, right Like the lawyers get all the proceeds
from this.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
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Uh Okay, you know, I just find it difficult to swallow, Dave,
that anyone would take the bait on this particular and this,
this this brad pit thing that I I'm just beside
myself in disbelief. But go ahead, give my listeners the

(01:01:54):
facts and they can draw their own conclusions. It's a
sad story.

Speaker 13 (01:01:58):
It is a sad story. It's really pretty tragic and sadly.
Brian I think you're only going to see more and
more and more of these kind of stories because as
the artificial intelligence technology that can generate the sort of
deep fake audio and video that apparently was used in
this scam gets better, it's only going to make it

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easier for people to do this sort of thing. So
I agree with you wholeheartedly. This is a wild story,
I guess. First off, I don't know how you would
think that suddenly Brad Pitt's mom and then Brad Pitt
is going to contact you over social media. Yes, yeah,

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you're You're just some person out there minding your own.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Business in the world, and Brad Pitt and his mom
picked you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
Yes, you know.

Speaker 13 (01:02:50):
And that's the thing that's even crazier. It would be
easier for me to understand if this started out with, Hey,
you're on social media and quote unquote Brad Pitt reaches
out to you, But I mean Brad Pitt's mom. Rad
Pit's mom reaches out to you and then connects you
to Brad Pitt.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
Yeah, I'm with you.

Speaker 13 (01:03:10):
It's quite hard for me to understand. But I think
the more important point for people is because of social
media and because of open source intelligence, which is a
whole field and cybersecurity of people who do nothing but
use all of the information that's available out there, things
like LinkedIn, things like Facebook, things like websites, things like

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Google searches to collect information, usually for reasonable purposes. But
you know this cuts both ways. You know, if you
want to know who the mayor of Del High is,
I guarantee you can find that either on LinkedIn or
on their website. So my point is there are people
out there who know how to use these tools, and

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they're available to anyone to learn information that can.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
Be useful in a scam.

Speaker 13 (01:03:59):
Right, Yeah, And the idea that someone is going to
find you on social media, some very very famous star.
And again the mother, that's the thing. So apparently this
woman was contacted by Brad Pitt's mom. Supposedly someone named
Jane at A Pitt who I'd never even heard of before,
and she's this woman apparently has some money, she's on

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a ski trip. She gets contacted by Jane or Jane
Edipitt and then the next thing you know, Rad Pitt
is contacted right and starts chatting her up. And then
the next thing you know, and you're looking deep into
this bit and you'll see all these photos of Rad
Pitt in the hospital. He needs money, I mean it's

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his account.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
His accounts were allegedly frozen because of the divorce with
Angelina Joe Lee, and so that's what his pitch was
to give her and get her to give him money.
But you know, red flag, While he always avoided her calls,
he sent artificial intelligence generated videos and images to convince
her that he was in love with her. So no,
he won't have a direct one on one conversation with her,

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even though he professes his undying love. I think we
need to call red flag on that immediately right there.
So if the person gets that far down the road
with you and they're not willing to have a conversation
with you, then you're not dealing with a real person.
Come on.

Speaker 13 (01:05:17):
But even that, Brian, thanks to you know, voice cloning
capabilities with these deep fake AI technologies, well there's that.
It's it's entirely possible that you could clone Brad Pitt's
voice and then have a conversation with someone. Now, I
want to point out a real red flag for that
is if you're talking to someone that you think you
know or recognize their voice, anyway, and there's a weird pause.

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It could very well be like you know, you and
I are talking, and if every time I answer you
there's a two second delay or you know yet an
unusual delay, it could very well be because someone is
typing in what that person is going to say and
then have it generated. So that's a real strong red
flag which are somehow being scammed with a voice cloning

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attack because it takes a second for them to type
in what they want to say, and it takes a
second for the AI to generate that voice.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
But yeah, I'm with you.

Speaker 13 (01:06:09):
It's so wild.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
Eight and fifty thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Yeah, I mean, basically, this woman lost all our money.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
Un and believable.

Speaker 13 (01:06:22):
Well, it also shows you the point I keep trying
to make to people all the time, Brian, because people think, well,
I don't have anything we're stealing, My business is too small, whatever,
This will never happen to me. These people are con
artists and they want to steal your money, and they'll
they'll go down whatever avenue they need to to get
to it. They'll pivot on a dime, they'll tell you
any lie, they'll use any technology they can to scam you.

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So you know, if you think this could never happen
to me, or I don't have anything worth stealing, your
money is worth stealing. And if you make it easy,
if you don't understand that these things are real, if
you're not skeptical and careful and doing the right sort
of things as an end individual or for your organization,
they will eventually get to your money. Because they are
con artists, they're very smart.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
I mean, who would think of this? I would never
think that someone would believe that. I'm Brad Pitt.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
I see that's the initial proposition that they went down
this road thinking they would have success. I'm with you,
Dave never would have started it out, even if I
was a criminal mind. I tried to think of something
more plausible. Anyway, let's we got to take a break.
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T brings you tech Fright with Dave Hatter intrust i
T dot com Dave Artificial robots are getting I guess,
quote unquote better and better every year. Is this right up?
About this one hundred and seventy five thousand dollars robot?
It was veiled unveiled at the Consumer Electronics Show in
Las Vegas. One hundred and seventy five grand. Go ahead, Well,

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this is so ridiculous. It is ridiculous. The company is
called Rerobotis and their CEO Andrew Kigwell, I guess that
is how you say it. His company was hoping to
make robots indistinguishable from humans, which could also tackle the
male loneliness epidemic, and also, I guess serve to feed
the childlessness epidemic. We've got nobody's getting in relationships and
having children anymore. So is this just some sort of

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docile sex robot that just actually interacts with you?

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
Better?

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
It looks more like a human being, well.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
As I understand it from the reporting on it.

Speaker 13 (01:09:48):
And there's some video out there, and I encourage people
to go take a look at the video. Melody is
one of their models. Melody looks a lot more realistic
than most of the stuff I've seen up this point.
But I'm pretty sure from watching the videos you are
not going to be confused that it's a real person,
you know. I mean, it's it doesn't look like C

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three po, but it does not look like a real person.
I mean maybe at a distance you might think there's
a real person sitting, you know, over on a chair
and across the room.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
Or something that does not look like a real person.

Speaker 13 (01:10:21):
But as you get closer to it, it just kind
of looks like a mannequin you know, that happens to
move around. It's fairly weird and creepy advice. Again, you know,
they claim this is not designed to be a sex robot,
because you know that's the thing too. We've talked about
that before. That's been out there for a while. There
are people working on that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
You know, this was.

Speaker 13 (01:10:42):
Unveiled at the Consumer Electronics Show, where you get this
kind of stuff every year. There's all kinds of wild stuff,
you know, a lot of its hype and hyperbole.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
So again, it's not that impressive to me.

Speaker 13 (01:10:53):
It's much better than you know, the things that I've
seen out there before, but it just isn't that realistic.
Looking at one hundred and seventy five thousand dollars. I mean,
you know, unless you just have more money than you
know what to do with and you think it would
be a fun gag or something. I'm not really sure
who would buy this now, they say. One of the

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key selling points to th rowbotsability engaging meaningful conversations and
adapts to the owner's preferences over time. That makes it
feel more personal and tailored.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
Well, and that's why it could never be a substitute
for a human being. You know, one of the reasons
you get involved relationships. And I would like to think
that people share my viewpoint on this. You know, my
wife is great. She doesn't give me too much of
a hard time, but she we occasionally do have disagreements.
You know, You're not always right. This seems like it
would ultimately be something will be a substitute for a

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girlfriend that never argues with you. It enables whatever decision
you want, because would you spend one hundred and seventy
five thousand dollars on a piece of technology that never
argues with you, or disagrees with you, or says something
about your bad habits or whatever the case may be.

Speaker 13 (01:11:59):
Thank you, I guess Brian, if you're have you seen
the movie Interstellar, Now I have it. Okay, there's there's
a robot character in the movie and the characters it's
it's key to the plot. But the robot like can
be configured. It's like it has different settings, like honesty setting,

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sarcasm setting. You know, it's throughout the movie there's like
this funny little play on tars turn your honesty setting
down to eighty percent, that kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
So, I don't know, maybe maybe you could do that
with this thing.

Speaker 13 (01:12:30):
Maybe you know, you need a little you need a
little spice in your life, so you have it give
you some grief.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
I don't know.

Speaker 13 (01:12:37):
The whole thing to me is just kind of ludicrous,
especially at a price of one hundred and seventy five
thousand dollars. And you know, they don't really talk about
any of their boarding it. Again, there's some videos people
can go see for themselves. The realism level this like,
this thing I don't believe is designed to be able
to do much except kind of talk to you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
Right, It's not going to like run the sweeper.

Speaker 13 (01:12:59):
It's not gonna do any real work like some of
the other robots that are you know, currently out there
where you might have it as like a personal assistant.
It could do something useful like the grass for you
while you're at work. Yeah, I guess we'll see where
this goes. But at one hundred and seventy five thousand dollars,
especially for the current capabilities, it's just it's crazy to

(01:13:23):
me so for these But to show you, though, Brian,
the advancements that are being made in this technology, and
I mean, will we get to a place where you
will not be able to distinguish an android from an
actual human being?

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
Blade Runner maybe? Yeah, Terminator, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
True too well for the sad, depressed loser who has
too much money and has everything. One hundred and seventy
five thousand dollars, get yours real, Bodis Dave Hatter, Thank
you so much for the time you spent with my
listeners of me every Friday. I look forward to next
Friday in another edition of Tech Friday with you, my friend.
Have a great weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
Thank you sir, you as well. I'll look forward to
chatting with you next week.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
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A very very happy Friday to you, Brian Thomas, inviting
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is Friday. Not that we have like open line Friday.
It's usually opened nine Monday through Friday. But before our
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He had another book book Tiny Blunder's Big Disaster. It's
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Apparently he's figured out some ways of solving problems that
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I'm a little confused, honestly about the subject matter of
the book, I'll admit that up the front. But having
never spoken with Charles and learning just for the first
time this morning that I was gonna be talking with him,
we're gonna take dive into that challenge in one hour.
Let us see here Monday, of course, Christopher Smith in

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a Monday. Monday. It is MLK Day on Monday. So
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to do that good stuff there? And on tax cuts,
all these hearings going on for Donald Trump's various positions.
Treasury Secretary nominee Man that Donald Trump has tapped around.
The Treasury Department issued warning the other day Scott Descent said,
of Congress does not extend the tax cuts that are

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due to expire at the end of the year, the
US economy be thrown into chaos. Quote if we do
not renew extend, we'll be facing an economic calamity. And
always with economic instability that falls on the middle and
working class people, we will see a gigantic middle class
tax increase. Jennet Yellen, for her part, obviously taking an

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opposite position, warning that extending the tax cuts would lead
to this is a laughable statement, unsustainable deficits. I guess
she hasn't gotten the memo that we're already there. It's
a spending problem. Consequences of inaction and action are that

(01:17:05):
exacerbates projected deficits could be dire. She said, Yeah, it's
she should be full well aware of the CBO report
that came out that said we'd be spending an additional
two plus trillion every single year for the next decade
under the current circumstances.

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
I don't know if a second have any control over
controlling spending, but therein lies the challenge for us collectively.
We're all screwed based upon government's inability to quit just
spending on literally every other project. Something I've talked about
with Senator Ran Paul just the other day. So check
out that podcast in other hearings, get a load of
this one. I just kind of you know, when I

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read something like this, I kind of wonder do they
even think about how they're going to appear and look
and and and be received in the general public when
they ask inane questions. Senator Mazie Herono of Hawaii mock
getting mocked widely on social media her opening questions to
Interior Secretary nominee Doug Bergham. Opening questions, Senator Rono, you

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have the floor. It's your time. Your turn. As part
of my responsibility to ensure the fitness of nominees before
any of the committees on which I said, I asked
the following two initial questions. First is, since you became
a legal adult. Well, it's a grammatically incorrect question, but anyway,

(01:18:40):
First is I'll never mind. First is, since you became
a legal adult, have you ever made unwanted requests for
sexual favors or committed any verbal or physical harassment or
assault of a sexual nature. That's question number one for
the proposed Interior Secretary. No, I have not simple response

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from Bergham. Follow up, have you ever faced discipline or
entered into a settlement related to this kind of conduct?
Entered into a settlement? I think that refers perhaps to
some of the many settled out of court things like,
for example, taxpayer dollars settlements of sexual harassment claims made
against elected officials up there in Congress. Huh, how about that,
Senator Herono, I guess you know all about that kind

(01:19:25):
of stuff, And if it was in a settlement, maybe
it was a confidential settlement agreement, And he said, no,
I have not, So there's a definitive no. I am
not involved in any of that. I haven't faced discipline,
and I haven't settled anything related to the conduct. But
if he had, and he was a confidentiality agreement in
connected with it, he wouldn't be able to reveal the
details of it. So that these people are in charge

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of our lives. I keep going back to that. Just crazy,
crazy stuff. And Pam Bondi, president Elect Trump's pick to
lead the Department of Justice, head it out with Senator
Adam Schiff pencil next shift. You remember him, don't you.
Schiff asked Bondi whether she would investigate the former special

(01:20:13):
counsel Jack Smith and former Representative Liz Cheni. Now pause
for a moment and consider why he might be curious
to know about that, Why would he choose Jack Smith,
List Cheney, or any other human being, because he is
worried that he will be investigated for his well lies
and deceit on the American people, the whole Russian collusion

(01:20:35):
thing that we just took us through a couple of
years of pain and well and then another investigation following that.
That's shiff talk about someone who lied boldly to your
face and mind on a regular basis. So I think
he himself is worried, and so he's dancing around, And
he didn't ask the question, are you planning on investigating
me if you secure the position? He said, I'm asking you,

(01:21:01):
sitting here today, whether you are aware of a factual
predicate to investigate Liz Cheney. Senator no, one asked me
to investigate Liz Cheney. That is a hypothetical, She calmly responded,
and then she said, you know what we should be
worried about. The crime rate in California's through the roof.

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Your robberies are eighty seven percent higher than the national averages.
That's what I want to focus on. Senator Shift suggested
that she does not have the independence to say no
to the president, and he then asked her if she
would tell Trumps if she would tell Trump he lost
the twenty twenty election, I'll pastor. I want to think
about how dumb that question is. Why would she interject

(01:21:41):
that into the conversation. That's a done issue, it's over.
We're in twenty twenty five now, Why would she have
the obligation, the need, or even think it's within her,
you know, business, if she's heading up the DOJ to
tell that Trump that he lost the twenty twenty election.
Trump may be walking around still convince that he won.
He's entitled to that belief. There's been all kinds of

(01:22:03):
stories sort of supporting some of the shenanigans and the
irregularities that I may be loose with the term that
we're involved in the twenty twenty election. I mean, some
people firmly believe that Trump won. He's entitled to that.
If you think he's delusional, that's okay. Joe Biden's delusional.
He has been for the last four years, if not longer.
But what job is it as head of the Department

(01:22:25):
of Justice to just interject that and say, Donald, you
know you lost twenty twenty. Her response, what I can
tell you is I will never play politics you're trying
to engage me in a gotcha schif asker if she
would advise against blanket pardons by President elect Trump, saying
to her, you'll be able to review hundreds of cases

(01:22:46):
on day one. Of course you won't. Oh, that is
an absolute true statement. But then again, does the head
of the Department of Justice have any say in who
the president pardons? The president doesn't necessarily need a review
of a file at the Department of Justice to decide
whether or not one guy or a woman should be
pardoned or not. Joe Biden gave a blanket pardon to

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his son. Unprecedented entered into new ground on that one.
Joe Biden did. He also released all kinds of commuted
the senses of all kinds of just really horrifically nasty
people where their files reviewed in advance. It really makes
you when you see some of the details of the
folks that are on Biden's pardon list, it really makes

(01:23:31):
it hard to believe that actually someone reviewed the file
and recommended that Joe go ahead and issue the pardon.
Senator Sheldon Whitehouse asked about the weaponization of the Department
of Justice, may sort of a statement question. It would
not be appropriate for a prosecutor to start with a

(01:23:51):
name and look for a crime. It's a prosecutor's job
to start with a crime and look for a name, correct,
and then she's Martley responded, well, Senator, I think that's
the whole problem with the weaponization that we've seen the
last four years and what's been happening to Donald Trump. Amen.

(01:24:12):
They love accusing Republicans for doing the very thing that
they have been doing. And why do you think all
these questions are being asked is because well, they did it.
They know it's possible, they know they're they're capable of
getting away with it, and they just want to know
if this these antics and these shenanigans and this weaponization
is going to continue under Donald Trump's watch and under

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Speaker 2 (01:27:18):
The talk station Friday, have you Friday to You're gonna
go straight to the phones. Got a couple of callers online.
Jay hang on because I promised Mississippi James would be first.
Welcome back, James. Always good to hear from you. Hey,
good morning, doctor Brian. All right, now.

Speaker 9 (01:27:35):
Bring me up to speed on the two thoughts.

Speaker 15 (01:27:38):
On the tax cut, whether it be extended, whether it
be expired.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
What's the two thoughts on it? Well, from my perspective,
and I think it holds true given tax cuts in
the past have actually resulted in more money flowing into
government because we engage in more economic activity, because allowing
us to spend our money where we want means we're
not paying for fish on treadmill study, among others. But
generally speaking, I don't believe in taxation heavily at all,
and I think it's you know, I believe in freedom

(01:28:06):
and liberty, and part of freedom and liberty is being
able to use your labor transferred to the paycheck as
you want to see it. But the idea that we
have a problem here only exists because the federal government
spends too damn much. Will the deficits go up if
we don't, If they don't raise the taxes and they
continue to spending on this track we're on, absolutely, but

(01:28:27):
they're not cutting spending. It's like Janet Yellen, she got
we're going to have unsustainable deficits. Well, we already do,
and we had before the tax cuts went into place.
You people just spend too much damn money. Maybe we
need to choke off the flow of cash to the
government and they'll tighten the belt on behalf of every
American and we won't have unsustainable deficits. But in the

(01:28:47):
final analysis, if they take more away from us, it
slows down the wheels of business. It provides less hiring opportunities.
There have been studies out saying that maybe six million
jobs will be lost because of the additional taxation, which
I have no reason or to argue with that. I'm
not a number cruncher guy. That's just been widely reported.
So raise the taxes, reduce economic activity. Lower the taxes,

(01:29:10):
increase economic activity and also deficits. But I don't think
anybody listening right now believes that if the taxes go
up that the government will apply the additional revenue to
the extent there even is, because as I pointed out,
sometimes the lower taxes is up more revenue for government.
But they even theoretically if all this additional money they'd
be taken out of our pockets went to the deficits,

(01:29:33):
which isn't going to happen. That if they don't close
down or slow down or reduce the engine of government,
generally speaking, we're going to continue to dig ourselves into
a hole. So that's my take on it. James, I
hope you have a happy Friday and a wonderful weekend.
Give your wife my best, would you please, Jay, Welcome
to the program. Happy Friday to you, Hey, Good morning, Brian.

Speaker 16 (01:29:57):
Take good and inspects A question for you, after all
these years of a Macy Horono and a Chuck Schumer
and an Adam Shift and I could keep going on
with Joe Biden, Let's just take those states because we can.

Speaker 8 (01:30:12):
We should be frustrated with those politicians. The older I get,
the more I realized it's the people behind the politicians
who continue to vote for them and put them in
office and inflict us with their bad ideas, inflict us
with their corruption. In the case of Joe Biden, is
there we have to understand the biggest threat to our

(01:30:35):
national security are those states and the voters who continue
to put these lousy, corrupt politicians sold out to China,
supports the transgender movement, everything else that's ungodly, unholy and Unamerican.
Is there a place in the Constitution that says that
this voluntary union of States can throw out members of

(01:30:55):
states before they because of the damage that they're in
inflicting on the entire nation of three hundred and sixty
million people.

Speaker 2 (01:31:02):
No, No, there isn't. I think in order to bring
about throwing out of state you probably need something along
the lines of an amendment to the Constitution. But you
got to recognize we do live in a republic and
that the citizenry decides who will best serve their interest
in government. And if the citizenry has been dumbed down

(01:31:23):
to the point where they think Corona or Shift or
whoever are the best people for the job. And I
think that's actually what has happened. They're so dumb that
they think it's right, and they've sold a bill of
goods about what these people claim they're going to give
them from government. Government's going to give you this and
give you that. I mean, you have to be completely
ignorant of all things political and economic to believe that

(01:31:46):
that's actually going to happen, or that it's actually a
good thing for the for America.

Speaker 17 (01:31:50):
So I wonder if I wonder if rand Paul or
somebody like that, when you would have them on next Massy,
that would be an interesting question to ask, are we
there yet to wear the there Red States ought to
be sitting together and starting to put together something that
says we are going to be pulled down. This nation's
continuing to decline if we can't get rid of the

(01:32:11):
power of California and New York and we can't control
their voters. But if they're inflicting that kind of damage
on the rest of us, that they are the national
biggest security threat, then I say move to action. And
it's not civil war. I think that would be dumb
to pick up arm But there ought to be a
way that we could say, if we are a voluntary

(01:32:32):
union of states, that there will be a threshold, because
right now it seems like there is no threshold whatsoever
that some state and their voters can cross, and there
is no threshold of how long the damage can continue
until we can stop it.

Speaker 9 (01:32:45):
It's almost like they can.

Speaker 17 (01:32:46):
Continue to degrade all of us until this nation is destroyed.
It seems like there needs to be an exit ramp,
some safety valve that can be thrown in order to
save the country.

Speaker 2 (01:32:57):
Well, it would be nice if we could do it
and bring it about. I just take comfort and some
solace in the fact that, you know, since let's say
COVID or since the Biden administration, I mean, we did
elect as a country pretty overwhelmingly Donald Trump, the evil
trump Man, after you know, almost a decade of constant,
constant beating him down and demonizing him. So the American

(01:33:20):
people were smarter than that they didn't buy into it.
They appreciate the fact that we're in poorer economic times
after the Biden administration, hence the Trump election. We could
go on the border isn't secure, impacting people of all
political stripes. Dumb idea open borders were all feeling it.
Voters woke up to that. Voters who lived in these
left wing states have moved out in massive quantities New York, California,

(01:33:42):
Illinois to states that are read because of the economic
freedom that they can enjoy. They see the difference. It's
in full display, and if the mainstream media would report
more about it and point out the colossal differences between
the way blue states are run. See the Los Angeles
fires among others as an illustrate versus say how Texas
or Florida are run. You know, then they can make

(01:34:05):
more educated choices. Most people choose to stay away from politics.
They don't pay attention to the ramifications and repercussions of
what they've done. You think that the average Joe is
out there watching any of these hearings or listening to
the inane comments and questions by Mazie Herono, their own
representative out in Hawaii. Probably not they're in Hawaii. They're
probably sitting on the beach somewhere having a cocktail or something.

(01:34:26):
I don't know, but maybe there has been an awakening.
It's happening all over the world, and that's another thing
I can take some comfort in. Jay. You look at Europe,
they're moving away from these left wing policies. They too
have an immigration problem that's just sort of been unleashed
on them by the left wingers in the European Union.
So maybe we are waking up. And of course the

(01:34:47):
deficit and of itself, I think objectively, no one can
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Chuck Ingram on fifty five KRC the talk station seven
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(01:37:33):
Big Disasters, second book in the series. Some funny and
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had a dramatic impact, like the butterfly effect in a
certain degree. Let us see here get a local story
in over in Joe's neighborhood. Kind of feel sorry for
this one. Three people have been shot over a col
Ringe township, two her dad, according to township spokesperson, two

(01:37:55):
active scenes. Yesterday, Police were investigating outside the Walgreens and
the pop pop Eyes, which is on the opposite side
of the street of the Walgreens on Colerain Avenue. The
victim the third victim that didn't die, was taken a
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the Walgreens across the street. Police had a d block
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(01:38:37):
right now unto the belief that the shooting was targeted.
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Speaker 2 (01:40:58):
Fifty five KRC decalk station. You can't see Joe Stracker,
but I can a little distressed look on his face
right now and a bit of a lip reader, and
I did look like he uttered a few FCC non
compliant words in there. This is two days in a
row where were the authors that were lined up failed

(01:41:18):
to appear? So I was looking forward to having Jared
not on the program. Apparently I won't be doing that
this morning. No idea Joe can get in touch with him.
So you can call five one, three, seven four nine
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found five fifty on AT and T phones. You know,
and going back to the comments that I made in
response to the last caller about you know, we're going

(01:41:39):
to learn anything? Why do we keept he people having
keep electing people like Mazie Herono, who ask any questions
and don't seem to be helping the country at all.
Reckless overspending. Are we ever going to learn our lesson?
Can we break away from those crazy states to save ourselves?
Complicated question of the complicated answers in a country that
will this republic we live in, We're going to get

(01:41:59):
some eggs. But as I was saying, I was trying
to be optimistic, you know, Trump being elected, the border
being a key issue on that, people of all political
stripes suffering their neighborhoods dealing with the problem created by
this influx that they were not prepared for, school districts
having being overwhelmed by immigrant children that don't speak English,

(01:42:21):
resources being drained that otherwise should have gone to the
people who pay the taxes. I mean, if you're a
Democrat and you're in Chicago and you see that you know,
a billion or however many dollars has been thrown out
the immigrant crisis, and you're living in a terrible neighborhood,
you've got to get You're going to get angry. And
they are same thing in New York. They got problems
of plenty in New York budget reason whyse because well,

(01:42:44):
illegal immigrant problem. And so with that background, I mean,
you can learn lessons and you can change your practices
and your tactics. The Governor of Massachusetts requested on Wednesday
of this week that nearly all family members living in
any of these states emergencies shallters be here in the
United States illegally and not offering many exceptions. This is

(01:43:06):
sanctuary state time, sanctuary city time. They have a decade's
old right to shelter law, and Democratic Governor Marra Healey
obviously standing behind that up until now. Oh, we have
an obligation, we have a right to shelter law, which
means we need to put illegal immigrants in shelters. Well,
that obviously uses up resources, and it well there's only

(01:43:28):
a finite number of shelters that people can go into.
So she's proposing a whole bunch of new restrictions for
the shelter rights, tougher criminal background checks, establishing residency requirements,
and prohibiting nearly any applicant who is not a US
citizen or lawfully present in the country. How about that,

(01:43:51):
don't come here, don't come to Massachusetts. You're not gonna
have a place to sleep. Of course, that doesn't solve
the homelessness problem that may result as a consequence of that,
because presumably illegal immigrants will still come to Massachusetts. But
certainly this is a step in the right direction. After
learning the lessons of you know, guaranteed housing and guaranteed

(01:44:12):
food and guaranteed everything for every single person who comes
across the border, they're now dealing with reality. They've had
a bunch of criminal busts and shelters. There was a
rape of a disabled girl by one of the sheltered residents,
and was also a one million dollar drug bus coupled
with an AR fifteen that was found in one of
these homeless shelters illegal immigrants. So positivity in there are

(01:44:36):
positive movement in the right direction on that is, for
his part, one of the local stories this morning, Joe
and I were kind of laughing about whether this was
actually going to happen or not, but have tab Provoll
was asked about the illegal immigration system and this and
situation under Donald Trump, which we all know is going
to engage in some measure of deportation, had this to
say to Sharon Coolidge over the enquire for President of

(01:44:56):
the United States, backed by the Senate and House of
representatives wants to do something as it relates to immigration,
then they're going to do it. And there's no mayor
in the country, particularly the mayor of a blue city
in a red state, that's going to be able to
do anything about it. He said, the cooperation should be
as close as it is with the Biden administration. Look,
I'm a Democratic, disagree with a lot of what President
Trump's administration has said that they will prioritize on how

(01:45:19):
they were governed. But this isn't about me as a person.
This is about me as a mayor and how to
strike a relationship and partnerships with everybody in order to
put the city in the best possible position moving forward.
And that includes not picking political fights that we know
we are going to lose. What's most important to me
is to have a strong, productive relationship with the Trump administration.

(01:45:41):
As mayor, I was sworn in on the Constitution and
the Charter, and it's my job to also uphold the
law and to effectuate laws that have been passed. So
it's a tough political position for me. Well, that sounds
to me like he's not going to try to buck
the system. I've read a bunch of different stories in
different states. I think California allocated some odd fifty million
dollars to help have organizations that will try to defend

(01:46:03):
and stand in the way of the Trump administration's efforts
to deport people. That's a polar opposite reaction and it's
not something I would have expected out of pro Volt
to make a statement like this, keep your popcorn out
when Trump and the Ice agents come a calling for
folks locally here living in the city of Cincinnati as
to whether that position will actually be changed or he'll

(01:46:24):
stick with this and at least not stand in the way.
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Seven fifty fifty five KRCD talk Station five one three
seven fifty five hundred eight hundred eight two three time
and more to my inspiration and hope and showing that
you know things might change for the better. Look, the
FBI just closed down as DEI department. Many businesses, major
corporations have done the same thing, getting rid of it
and moving over toward the concept of merit. Merit after

(01:49:02):
doing this test experiment for the past ten years or
so since the Obama administration, everybody's finding out all these
these organizations DEI doesn't help anybody. It brings down the
efficiency of our business. Let's start hiring people based on
the content of their character, not the color of their skin,
for example. Mike, thanks for calling. Welcome to the fifty
five KRC Morning Show.

Speaker 18 (01:49:24):
Hello, Thanks Gary, Brian, Thanks Brian.

Speaker 8 (01:49:28):
How are you doing.

Speaker 2 (01:49:30):
I'm doing well. What's on your mind today?

Speaker 18 (01:49:31):
Mike Good I'm an opportunist. I heard you saying on
the radio ipen like anything to talk about to call in,
So I called in to talk about Positively Mainstross, which
is a benefit we're having at the Village Theater. We're
having it on February second, and it's thirty bands that
are going to get together and play and support a
children's hospital cancer department, giving children's hope.

Speaker 3 (01:49:52):
And it's going to go all.

Speaker 18 (01:49:53):
Day and it's going to be a great time.

Speaker 10 (01:49:55):
Let's like raffles and auctions and all kinds of great things.

Speaker 2 (01:50:00):
You got a website for that one.

Speaker 18 (01:50:02):
Yeah, you can go to our Facebook page which is
the Voyage Theater and then we also have the Village
Theater website on the MIC's music page.

Speaker 2 (01:50:11):
Fantastic. Well, I wish you all the best for the charity,
and I hope a lot of people show up and
have a great time. And you get that many bands
together and you got a lot of music, I think
you can always guarantee it's going to be a great time.
Appreciate the call, Mike, and thanks for doing the charity work.
Let's see what Joe's got this morning. Joe, Welcome to
the Morning Show. Happy Friday, Happy.

Speaker 3 (01:50:28):
After tried and God bless you and your family. Brian,
thank you, sir, You're welcome. Just real quick, and as
always I want to get your input. I'm optimistic as
you are, but mostly because of the incarnations as opposed
to activities so far. An example, I'm not averse to

(01:50:52):
term limits, and I can say this because I'm an
old man. I kind of like the idea of age limits.
You know, get rid of this air intocracy, because if
you're not going to be around long enough to suffer consequences,
you shouldn't be making decisions for that generation. And I
think it's going to take more than a four year
term for a good president.

Speaker 2 (01:51:12):
Your thoughts, Well, I understand, I don't know. I vacillate
on term limits. Sometimes I think they're a great idea.
In others I don't. The idea of term limits to
me is is appealing when I think about as long
as they're not there, as long as they're for a
finite amount of time, then they are probably going to
tend to be more honest and not going to use
that re election after reelection after reelection for their own

(01:51:35):
personal financial benefit and advantage because so many of them
and you don't make that much. I mean, we've got
to work in Washington, d C. And you make one
hundred and seventy five thousand dollars a year. Yeah, good
luck on that. But they get a lot of perks.
They don't have to pay for meals a lot and
things like that. But you know, how can you go
in to office and make that level of salary and
leave a multi multi millionaire. You know, it's just beyond

(01:51:57):
my comprehension. How is brock Obacha owner of a Barack
Obama owner of multiple mansions? How is it that Joe
Biden is retiring a multi millionaire? He's got a bunch
of different houses reju Ho Beach, and we can go
on up and down the line. They use the office,
and these have quite often for corrupt purposes, to serve
their own best interest. So a term limit, I think

(01:52:19):
would reduce the opportunity for that kind of thing to happen.
I don't think it would eliminate it. But and in
terms of age, you know, I don't know that age
is this positive because of course the older you get,
the smarter you become. I think, the wiser you become.
You've got so many life examples, things that you've seen,

(01:52:39):
mistakes that people have made, the consequences, and you can
factor all those in and make a more informed decision.
What really worries me is not someone who's older, unless
of course you're demonstrably impaired, like Joe Biden. Someone who's
older has that wisdom. But someone who is younger. And
you got a guy like what is that David Hogg,

(01:53:01):
that anti gun advocate who's running for office. I mean,
I don't know how old that kid is. And you
look at a guy like, you know, PG Sittenfeld, who
was a really really young guy when he went into office.
They don't have any life experience. They don't know about
the inner workings of government. I know you got to
start somewhere, But you know, I've told this story a
bunch of times. A twenty two year old or twenty

(01:53:23):
year old somebody emailed me at one time told me
how old he was and what he wanted to do.
He said, I want to do what you're doing for
a living. He wanted to be talking about politics on
the air. He's probably got a podcast by this time.
We're going back. She's like twelve years or more. And
I said, I could not do this job absent the
sixteen years I practiced law fresh out of college. Put

(01:53:45):
me behind a microphone. I mean, I was politically aware,
and I was big into politics before I went to college.
My political you know, I got engaged in politics when
I was in high school, Thank you, Chuck Burkholtz. But
did I have enough knowledge and wisdom to be a
representative or a senator? Hell no. So I have a

(01:54:09):
profound appreciation for that kind of life experience. If you're
healthy and you're cognitively you know sound, and you've got
great ideas, you can apply that life experience. So term
limits maybe, but age limits I don't know. Sometimes seems
kind of arbitrary to me. Seven fifty six five KRC
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He is, as the book suggests, and astronaut. What a
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Speaker 9 (01:56:05):
Good morning, Briant. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:56:08):
I mean, I got it being an astronaut. To me,
that's just fascinating, and you probably won't. You're a very
small slice of the entire population. I'm just kind of
wondering whether you would rather be referred to as astronaut
doctor Charles Kermonda or doctor astronaut Charles Kermona, because I
would always want to put that in when I was
introducing myself.

Speaker 9 (01:56:27):
You know, Brian, most people call me Charlie.

Speaker 2 (01:56:29):
There you go, well, Charles Mission, out of Control, Astronauts,
Honesty to fit the high risk organization and prevent tragedy.
First off, what I think I have an understanding as
to why what prompted you to write this book before
we start talking about what the book is intended to do.

Speaker 15 (01:56:46):
Well, as you said, I worked for NASSA for over
forty five years and it was an amazing organization when
I was a young researcher at Mass aligned with but
it changed, it watched its way. We stopped doing real
applied reach church. We started becoming a production organization, especially
on the human space flight side, and we started just

(01:57:07):
looking at operating vehicles and flying them in space, and
we lost our touch with our research routs and we
lost our capability to actually understand when we had critical problems.

Speaker 2 (01:57:20):
So am I correct to understand? You were on the
team that led the investigation why the Columbia Space Shuttle
blew up?

Speaker 9 (01:57:29):
Well, I didn't lead the team.

Speaker 15 (01:57:31):
I led one of the teams that was investigating the
technical cause of the problem, and that was the impact.
And we use some of my good friends Matt Mellis
and some of Kelly Carney and some of the great
people at Glenn Research Center right there in Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (01:57:49):
Okay, Well, when I was reading through the materials, I
did write Boeing down here because Boeing has been plagued
with problems. They make the planes, but they don't you know,
let like, for example, what they are pilots know. They
changed the software, they have, you know, the poor performance
in terms of manufacturing. They have a product, but they
have breakdowns in manufacturing that obviously can lead and have

(01:58:10):
led to the loss of life. Is that sort of
an illustration of the of the like a company to
whom you would focus this book or directed their attention
to this book.

Speaker 9 (01:58:21):
Absolutely, a lot of companies. It's a very similar problem.

Speaker 15 (01:58:24):
Because what we learned after the Columbia accident was that
the primary cause of the of the accident was the culture.
And what you saw after the seven thirty seven Max
accidents with Boeing is they came to the same conclusion.
Boeing lost this way, just like National loss this way.
Technical excellence was no longer and safety were no longer

(01:58:46):
the key primary focus of the organization. It got bobbed
down with the bottom line, market share, profit and that's
a very similar but different reasons came very focused on
production schedule and budget and keeping the programs alive, and

(01:59:08):
it's become a bladed bureaucracy. And what I realized, what
I learned in the research writing the book, is that
what other people missed was there's a difference between technical excellence,
technical people, good engineers, and what I call research engineers.
And so I described the elements that make up a
good research a good learning organization like what Boeing used

(01:59:30):
to be, just like NASA was, and how that could
lead to a very toxiculture which becomes psychologically unsafe. People
are afraid to speak up, and then bad things happen
and the accidents recur, just like Challenger and Columbia.

Speaker 2 (01:59:47):
Well, you mentioned bottom line profit share and market share
and profit all being primary drivers and to the exclusion
of perhaps this intense focus on perhaps safety. But on
a similar note, I kind of think that maybe, like
if you look at DEI departments, they're focus on culture
and they're focused on social issues and issues that transcend

(02:00:08):
any given companies primary focus, which would be should be
providing a quality product and or service to their customers.
Is that another form of sort of a lack of
focus or improper direction that we could point to.

Speaker 15 (02:00:24):
Well, diversity is good, right, It helps us create, It
helps us come with very innovative solutions. But dei and
quotas and getting away from merit talkers. Yeah, you know,
a good research organization is knowledge is key, and you
have deference to the people that have that expertise, and
you always have to develop those skills and maintain those standards.

Speaker 2 (02:00:47):
Well, are you concerned about the state of education in
the United States because we seem to be turning out
young people who just are taught to the test, but
not taught to critically think. I mean, it's one of
the reasons why I love law schools so much, because
it was a socratic method, that back and forth and
that delving down and looking into and analyzing, you know,

(02:01:07):
in that particular case, different areas of law. But it
was a wonderful teaching method. We don't seem to be
teaching children logic and reason anymore. Is there a shortage
of that? Is that part of the cultural problem here?

Speaker 15 (02:01:19):
You're absolutely correct. When I was reassigned at mathif was
speaking up, I started diving into how do we train
our young engineers and education in general around the United States.
As a matter of fact, I started a five oh
one to three c educational nonprofit clots called the Ethic
Education Foundation, where we used a challenge based learning approach.

(02:01:40):
And yeah, absolutely correct. Lawyers do this. They think critically,
They look at all different sides of an argument. And
you have this free environment where you could have this discourse.
You can have these disagreements, but you relied on the
facts and the knowledge, and the knowledge that was verified
by tests and analysis.

Speaker 2 (02:02:00):
Okay, So in in a corporate environment, moving away from
you know, lawyers, you know talking and advocating on behalf
of their clients and sort of thinking around the different
challenges they face. But in a corporate environment, I think
you alluded to it earlier. People have this reluctance to
hold their hand of and say no, no, that's a
dumb idea because of the you know, am I going
to lose my job? Am I going to embarrass my boss?

(02:02:22):
I can't do that. I'm not going to be the
longest feese up.

Speaker 15 (02:02:25):
That's exactly what you're talking about. A psychological safety Amianmenson
wrote a book to feel this organization about this, and
I talk about this in my book how in a
real a true research culture, a true research environment. This
is this is absolutely critical. And so when I spoke
about my book and culture to the senior executives at

(02:02:47):
Boeing and I told them how ugly the culture was
and the environment was at NASA's they their eyes were
wide open. But people were coming up to me and saying,
you know what, Charlie, the culture is worth at Boeing.
And I didn't believe them. But that was six months
before the first of the first Yon, that crash of
seven thirty seven, and then six months later you had

(02:03:10):
the ETHOPI and Allins crash and the body cell out
of Boeing. And so what I was trying to tell
the Bowie senior executives after the seven thirty seven crash
was that you need to listen to your people. People
are telling you there are major problems, but their voices
of being needed and they're being canceled.

Speaker 2 (02:03:30):
Well, part of me, let me ask you this, sir.
And then again I guess is astronaut doctor Charles kamarda
Mission out of Control and astronauts Odyssey to fix High
risk organizations and prevent tragedies sort of. The subtitles suggests
high risk organizations. Who did you write the book for?
Was it for the public at large? Are you focusing on,
you know, corporate culture and your leaders and executives within companies.

Speaker 15 (02:03:54):
Originally I focused on it as a way to help
fix massive but what I realized was when NASA wasn't listening,
there were many organizations that have this very similar problem.
And so the second half of the book I talk
about ways that we could fix this problem, how we
could use technology, how we could to train people differently,
how we can build what I call these five key

(02:04:15):
principles of a research culture.

Speaker 2 (02:04:18):
Well, I guess there's probably you know, using Boeing as
an illustration and NASA's an illustration, I would imagine there
is a different mindset among the employees that in the
private sector, Yeah, you run the risk of losing your job,
you run the risk of getting fired for incompetence. But
I would think in a government environment, you're less likely

(02:04:40):
to face any well penalty for maybe not doing work
or for maybe causing a problem or something. There's a
sort of a protection element in government jobs. It seems
to not exist in the private sector. Is there a
distinction between them and along the lines of what you're
talking about, it's.

Speaker 15 (02:05:02):
Not really, because you know, I spoke up after I
flew in space. I became director of engineering, and when
I saw problems with safety, I spoke up in a
flight readiness review and I was reassigned three days later.
So if you can imagine an astronaut being silenced, it
can happen to anyone. And while you don't might lose

(02:05:22):
your job, you might lose your position, you might lose
your voice, and you're placed in a terrible situation where
you no longer can do the job that you loved.
People will not treat you the same because you're no
longer you're a piranha, You're a pariah, your persona non grata.

Speaker 2 (02:05:44):
Fair enough, well, doctor. Obviously, in the book, you identify
the general concepts we're talking about the problem that we face,
and I presume that you offer an outline solutions to
these problems, practical solutions that people in the business world
can incorporate.

Speaker 9 (02:06:01):
Absolutely.

Speaker 15 (02:06:02):
I have key things for leaders to look for signs
that the culture is going awry. I talk about technical
use of technology to help us identify when an individual team,
because it only takes one small team to be dysfunctional,
like the team that was working on the ownings or

(02:06:23):
the team that was analyzing the impact of foam on Columbia.
You have one dysfunctional team and it could cause a tragedy.
So I highlight several ideas for how do you build
a psychologically safe environment, a knowledge based hierrocky where you
encourage people to fail and learn by failure, and how

(02:06:45):
you're transparent, how you share information openly and you encourage
competing ideas.

Speaker 2 (02:06:52):
I love the sound of it. It sounds practical and
logical and reasonable to me. Astronaut doctor Charles Kamarta, author
of Mission out of Control and astronauts Odyssey to Fix
High Risk Organization and Prevent Tragedy. Doctor, we have your
book on my blog page fifty five KRC dot com.
I sounds to me like there's a lot of business
owners out there in my audience it would love to
get a copy of this, and I'm sure they will. Well,

(02:07:12):
thank you for spending time with my listeners and I
today and identifying this problem so we can work on solutions, sir,
That's what.

Speaker 9 (02:07:20):
It's all about. Thank you very much for having me, Brian.

Speaker 2 (02:07:23):
My pleasure, Absolutely, my pleasure. It's eight eighteen right now,
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times of massive inflation have people just like you strapped.

Speaker 9 (02:07:47):
As far as my debt, I was drowning.

Speaker 2 (02:07:49):
In eight twenty two.

Speaker 12 (02:08:00):
These are.

Speaker 9 (02:08:02):
Renses to.

Speaker 2 (02:08:05):
CLU, wonderful world. I was like, totally, It just depends
on where you're looking. Two three found five fifty on

(02:08:27):
AT and T phones. I guess it is, uh in
some degree a good thing. Uh, maybe it's a wonderful
world that Benjamin Yahoo and the Hamas whoever signs on
the dotted line for Hamas have now entered into the
ceasefire agreement for the in the Gaza strip and ultimately
free Israeli hostages and other hostages. And of course there
were some bumps in the road. Yesterday looked like they

(02:08:48):
had assigned deal and then Hamas was accused of renigging
on parts of the original agreement. Will apparently they got
details ham burned out. So the full cabinet in Israel
will take up the deal today, likely to go in
effect on Monday, according to people familiar with the matter.
So I just see the fighting end. I suppose give

(02:09:10):
it a loss of life, but Juststrekker and I remain
jaded and cynical that that deal is going to stick anyhow.
Was going through a different a couple of different things,
you know, looking for optimism at all the craziness going
on in the world, And I talked about obviously Trump
getting elected in and of itself is a sign of
optimism considering most of these running on, you know, immigration

(02:09:33):
for example, and lowering regulations, you know, a variety of
different things that seem to be more and more appealing
every single day. It's as if, you know, after talking
to the doctor there, people woke up to the reality
we've got a problem on our hands, like the California wildfire.
Problem after problem after problem, the defunding of the fire departments,

(02:09:54):
the not doing and following through projects that would have
cleaned up some of the brush and reduced the you know,
likelihood of this massive conflagration they've got going on, just
one thing after another. See you step back from that.
If it happens to you enough times and over and
over again, then you might start looking for the source
of the problem. And I think people caught on and

(02:10:15):
the source of the problem of these fatcrap insane ideas
like DEI for example, I talked about it earlier in
the morning with the Federal of the FBI shut down
its DEEI department in December, just close it down because
it didn't have anything to do with fulfilling their mission.
Going back again to the doctor, what is your mission
with fighting crime and catching bad guys? Okay? Does that

(02:10:40):
have anything to do with teaching people who are responsible
for fighting crime and catching bad guys? Teaching them about
cultural issues, spending many valuable hours that could be used
to search for bad guys and fighting crime or solving crime,
Spending many valuable hours like sort of trying to meld
people into particular mindset, no one for all, all for

(02:11:02):
one fight crime. It's like peek Hegzath leading the military
what does he want. He wants a strong fighting force.
Doesn't matter where you're gay, or you're a lesbian or whatever.
We're going to be looking for the best and brightest
people who are capable of fulfilling the mission. Killing people

(02:11:22):
and breaking things is the way I like to sum
it up. That's what we do, that's what we should
be focused on. And it's not that he has anything
against women generally. He just wants to make sure that
if you're going to put a woman out in combat,
that she's capable of well being able to do the job.
Going back to the LA fires, what was the LA
fire chiefs? Since that you're in the wrong place and
it's your fault for being there if I can't pick

(02:11:43):
you up and haul you out, Is that what you
want a firefighter?

Speaker 15 (02:11:48):
No.

Speaker 2 (02:11:48):
One of the lists of things I'd want from a
firefighter is a person man or woman who is capable
of picking me up and dragging me out. I may
have my legs crushed, I may be in a precarious position.
It may not have been my fault. What's the focus
of your mission is what are you trying to accomplish?
Give me the people who are capable of doing that

(02:12:08):
and train them to do that. And if they want
to hang out and go to a club on the
weekend or participate in some sort of protest on the
weekend when they're not at work where they're supposed to
be doing their job either killing people or breaking things
or fighting crime, just as an illustration of a couple
of things, then let them. Yeah, go ahead, just don't
incorporate it into the business model. A twenty six fifty

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this morning. Firefighters said part of the building's roof had
already collapsed. No injuries, though, thankfully the chief in spite
of the severity of the fire, portion of Princeville Glennen
Glendell was shut down for a while. Cause of the
fire is under investigation and they're investigating how the flame
started and to access the extent of the damage. Looks

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like a pretty sizable fire and what else is going on?
Shootout Jess Drekker's neighborhood, cole Ringe Township. We have two
dad and one in critical condition at UC Medical Center.
According to the spokesperson for Coleraine Township, police were actively
investigating yesterday. Had to shut down some of the businesses
there outside the Walgreens and the Popeyes on either side

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of Coleraine Avenue, I guess opposite each other. A spokesperson
said that two people who died were near the Popeyes.
The person that was taken to the hospital was found
at the Walgreens across the street, so the officers are
no longer investigating at the scenes. The Popeyes, Dunkin Donuts,
and Shell gas station had to remain close throughout the
balance of the day yesterday, and they haven't yet provided

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any information on a possible suspect. Spokesman said the investigators
are currently believed the shooting was targeted. I trust that
they would love to hear from you. If you have
any information relating to the shooting, get in touch with
the col Ring Township Police Department. I mentioned this earlier
in different contexts. But after Purval was asked about Joe
Biden or about Donald Trump's immigration policy, speaking with Sharon

(02:16:19):
Coolidge from The Inquirer, because we all know Donald Trump
is going to do something about the outrageous situation we
have because of the open borders policy under the Biden administration.
He's going to start with, as I understand it, the
criminal element. Seems to me, if you've been convicted of
a crime, you know that should result in immediately being
kicked out of our country. But you learn time after time,

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and I got a couple other different stories about it,
time after time that you know, someone is caught convict
committing some heinous crime, illegal immigrant, and you find out
they got a rap sheet as long as your arm
since entering our country, and yet they remain get let

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free out on the streets time after time after time.
So anyway, since Cincinnati has declared itself a sanctuary city,
Parvall was asked about this. Parwal pledges the city of
Cincinnati will nonetheless follow Trump Administration's directives. I thought this
was rather interesting. I wouldn't expect this that I have
to have, Parvall. He said, if the President of the
United States back by the Senate and the House Representatives

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wants to do something as it relates to immigration, then
they're going to do it. And there's no mayor in
the country, particularly a mayor of a blue city in
a red state, that's going to be able to do
anything about it. The cooperation should be as close as
it is with the Biden administration. Look, I'm a Democrat,
he said. I disagree a lot with a lot of
what President Trump's administration has said that they will prioritize

(02:17:46):
on how they will govern, But this isn't about me
as a person. This is about me as a mayor
and how to strike a relationship and partnership with everybody
in order to put the city in the best position
moving forward. And that includes not picking political fights that
we know we're going to lose. What's most important to
me is having a strong, productive relationship with the Trump administration, said,

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I was sworn in on the Constitution in the Charter,
and it's my job to also uphold the law and
to effectuate laws that have been passed. Calling it a
tough position for sure, given their political differences. So I
think I got my popcorn out on that. It will
remain to be seen. But we do have a sizable
illegal immigrant population in the greater Cincinnati area. I know

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it's not widely reported, but many folks that may be
subject to deportation at least at some point under the
Trump administration. So I will see if he keeps to
his word and allows Immigrations and Customs Enforcement to do
its job and the Trump administration to follow through with
the policies that it has promised the American people. Eight

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They say thirty nine fifty five KERCD talk station. Happy Friday.
By the way, I thought it was a rather interesting
exchange between Scott Descent, the President of Elect Trump's nomine
to lead the Treasury Department, and Bernie Sanders got into
a little mix up the other day. Since what we're
doing all these hearings. You may recall, during his farewell

(02:20:28):
speech to the nation, Biden talked about an oligarchy taking
shape in America of extreme wealth, power and influence that
literally threatens our entire democracy, our basic rights, freedoms, and
a fair shot for everyone to get ahead. Bernie Sanders,
for hip part, came out saying I agree with Biden
on that, calling out specifically Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, and

(02:20:50):
Mark Zuckerberg, who have well, at least Elon Musk we've
known has been on the right side for a little while. Anyway,
Bezos and Zuckerberg obviously working with the Biden administration, these
evil oligarchs to suppress information from you and me. Zuckerberg
came out and came out swinging about that how the
people over the DJ would yell at them and scream
at them. You cannot allow this to be posted, most

(02:21:12):
notably in connection with COVID. But the sent said, the
three billionaires you listed, you, Bernie Sanders, all made their
money themselves, and you've also put it out mister Musk
came to the country as an immigrant. Sanders cut him off,
reiterated his question. Sent for his part, said, well, I

(02:21:33):
would note that President Biden gave the Presidential Medal of
Freedom to two people who I think would qualify for
his oligarchs, notably George Soros and David Rubinstein. This is
not a combination of any one individual. Sanader said, I'm
just asking you, so, with so few people having so
much wealth and power, do you think this is an

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oligarch form of society, Senator, I think it depends on
the the ability to move up and down the income,
in other words, swing and to fight a couple of
shots there in favor of capitalism. You have the freedom.
You can educate yourself. You can go out into the world.
You can provide the world with some benefit that it
doesn't have. You can build a business, you can hire people,

(02:22:16):
or you can be someone else and do something else. Thankfully,
we have people that are as smart as Elon Musk
and Bezos and Zuckerberg who build big businesses and provide
us with employment opportunities. Then he was asked us as
Sanders asked him if he would raise the federal minimum
wage to what he calls a living wage. Which is

(02:22:37):
kind of a joke too, because when you start seeing
the numbers out of California, most notably Los Angeles during
the fire, and how much money it takes to live
out there is anybody out there even making the federal
minimum wage, which has been seven dollars and twenty five
cents since two thousand and nine. No, the economic conditions
are out there are dramatically different about the lowest paying
job in California in that area is probably like twenty

(02:22:58):
bucks or more. The market sets that, and that's what
Descent was pointing to when he responded to him, Senator,
I believe the minimum wage is more of a state
and regional issue. In response, Center says, so, you don't
think we should change the federal minimum wage. We have
seven to twenty five an hour. His response a flat
out no, sir. Good for him. It is a regional

(02:23:22):
issue in spite of the fact there's a seven to
twenty five minimum wage. You know, in order to get
any young person these days to get up off their
button away from the PlayStation, you're gonna have to pay
them a little bit more money. Whether they stick around
and onto their commitment to their jobs is a different thing.
But speaking of George Soros, George Soros's Open Society Foundation leftists.

(02:23:45):
It is and it always funds these left leaning organizations
which seek to undermine American interest across the board, which
makes it a joke that he got the Freedom Award.
I mean, of all the people in the world, Joe
Biden could say that would be an embarrassment. The Presidential
Medal of Freedom. What has George Sours done for America? Well,

(02:24:07):
I know what he's done for Jewish Voice for Peace.
He's given him more than six hundred thousand dollars six
hundred fifty thousand dollars since twenty seventeen to fund human
rights works in work in the Middle East. Jewish Voice
for a prominent anti Israel group that is responsible for
organizing illegal protests attacking the Jewish state, Well, they got busted.

(02:24:35):
Committed federal loan fraud to obtain a six figure COVID
relief check. According to an announcement by our own Department
of Justice. They claim that JVP falsely persuaded for portrayed
itself as a non political group to obtain over three
hundred thousand dollars in a federal paycheck protection funding, and
they were forced to pay back double the amounts six

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hundred and seventy seven thousand and change to the federal
go meant to settle the allegations that were made under
the False Claims Act. Now they've also been suspended from
college campuses for organizing pro hamas rallies. Lawmakers have called
on the IRS also revoked JVP's tax exempt status because
the group has supported illegal encampments at universities and in

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their words as a history of sharing anti Semitic tropes,
suppressing support for expressing support for violence and terrorism, and
vil vilifying Zionism and Zionists. According to federal prosecutors, this
Soros funded organization applied for and received a second drawdown

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loan and forgiveness of the paycheck Protection Program, which was
not open to groups primarily engaged in political activity. So
as part of the application process, they claimed they were
quote not a business concern or entity primarily engaged in
political or law being activities close quote. However, accurt to

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the Department of Justice, their investigation reveal the JVP was
actually primarily engaged in political activities. Now the comical response
from this again George Soro's funded organization, which is anti
Semitic the group. The group told authorities that its false
claims were in their word, inadvertent. You got to fill

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out the forms to get the loan. Under the VPP.
You have to declare that you're not politically involved and
not primarily engaged in politics. They can't even look at
themselves and give themselves an honest assessment. That's really all
that they do inadvertent. What is that I slipped or something? Anyway,

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at least they've been brought to justice. Sate forty six,
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AS eight forty nine at fiftybou KRCD talk station, A
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Junior Day, of course, Inauguration Day absolutely and Christopher Smitheman
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Let's see here over the weekend. I guess the TikTok
ban' is supposed to go in effect, and they're all
backpedaling now. They're all both Republicans and Democrats, and there's
been some wild speculation that Joe Biden would try to
extend the right for TikTok to continue operations even though
they haven't been sold to an American buyer. He may
recall last year Biden signed into law a bill that

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required TikTok's China based parent, Byte Edance, to divest the
company by January nineteenth. That's Sunday a question mark on
whether or not that was going to move through. There
is a provision in the agreement which allows for an
extension as long as a viable deal is on the table,

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but there isn't one right now. So if you had
an active American buyer, you know, negotiating and still haggling
over the details of some acquisition, then that would be
of valid grounds for an extension, But right now, no
one is in sight. I know it was realm arked.
He rumored Elon Musk was going to buy it, but
I doubt that, given his current position and activity with
the Trump administration, the optics on that would would fly

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with anybody. But I find this rather comical because both
Democrats and Republican in spite of this being a bipartisan
thing and passed into law, they're both scrambled to try
to get this thing this block from kicking in. Not everybody,
but a lot of them. So Democrats had tried to

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pass the legislation on Wednesday that would have extended the deadline,
but Tom Cotton, Arkansas Republican blocked it, pointing out the
obvious TikTok is a Chinese Communist Party, communist spy app
that addicts our kids, harvests their data, targets them with
harmful and manipulative content, and spreads communist propaganda, summing it
up quite nicely. Now, the Supreme Court heard oral arguments

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for the legal challenge that TikTok filed trying to stay
in business and prevent this from happening, this legislation from
going through, and we haven't seen a decision yet, although
it's likely. The analyst for the Supreme Court hearing oral
arguments suggest that it seems likely that Supreme Court will
allow the law to be upheld. But it just is

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remarkable to me that right now lommakers are both parties
who overwhelmingly voted for this bill are now trying to
wiggle out of it. Why because there are one hundred
and seventy million TikTok users in the United States, all
of many of whom I would argue our voters. I

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think they're obviously a large percentage of people young people
on there, but a lot of adults use TikTok as well.
And when you do something like this, it's, you know,
it's like getting punished. And some people make a lot
of money off of TikTok. That's the other thing. These
so called social media influencers, they generate revenue, and they're
screaming and yelling that you're taking away our revenue source.

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But what's more important protecting someone's social media platform revenue
source and allowing the Chinese Communist Party to continue collecting
all of this data to their own benefit, or forcing
that those social medias move gravitate over to some other
social media site and enforce the law and thus protect

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America's society generally speaking. And I found it really kind
of pathetic that someone would whine about having the rug
pulled out from on TikTok. You know, just turn over
to someone, say the East work in the coal mines
or owned a coal company. You know, our environmental policies
require us to shut you down or regulate you out

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of existence. What about their jobs? That happens all the
time with government regulations. They regulate you right out of business,
and if you don't have a strong enough lobby, well
sucks to be you. And speaking of energy policy, I
got a big kick out of this. I don't know
if it's because the Trump administration coming in or they
just realized it was not feasible, but California's Air Resources

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Board sent a letter on January fourteenth to the US
Environmental Protection Agency withdrawing its prior waiver requests that would
have forced a transition from diesel to zero emission semi
tractor trailers in the state. The dumbest thing they could
have ever passed. The tractor trailers are three four times
more expensive than regular diesel trucks, they go a fraction

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of the distance. It would increase transportation costs dramatically, and
more fundamentally, they don't have the infrastructure to have to
provide the charging stations to keep these trucks moving down
the road. But isn't it interesting that California has pulled
the plug on its own proposal. California's withdrawing it's pending

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waiver and authorization request that USCPA has not acted on yet.
But we're disappointed that they were unable to act on
the request and in time. Withdrawal is an important step
given the uncertainty presented by the incoming administration that previously
attack California's programs to protect public health and the climate
and has said we'll continue to oppose these programs. Well,

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I think it's more the California Trucking Association and the
reality that this is an absolute impossibility. Eric Sower, CEO
of California Trucking Association, said, The California Drug Association has
consistently stated the Advanced Clean Fleet's rule was unachievable. Unachievable.

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It's like the politician who was told, well, the laws
of physics don't allow don't stand in the way of
your cafe standards or whatever they were specifically talking about,
and the idiot responded by saying, well, why don't why
don't we repeal the law of physics? Yeah, forcing everybody
into an electric truck that they can't afford isn't gonna work, because, well,

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where do I plug it in? A fifty six fifty
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and Monday Monday have a great weekend everybody. Thank you
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I sure appreciate it. And get on over the podcast
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get a chance to listen to Dave Hatter this morning. Again, folks,
have a wonderful weekend and okawgg Glenbeck's up next. Los

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