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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Five o five at fifty five KRC the talk station. Friday. Yay,
some sense a vacation.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
There.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
It is a woo hoo for Friday. All right? Well
asking Joe Strecker questions, not hearing him. I heard him
that time. Uh it is Brian Thomas right here. Glad
to be the host of the fifty five Casey Morning Show,
especially on a Friday where I feel a little bit lighter.
I don't know why, I guess just the reality as
we go into a weekend. We've got some great plans
going on this weekend, and hope you can stick around

(00:48):
all morning. What an amazing show, Joe tracker Man. This
is the kind of lineup that just really puts a
big smile on my face. And by the fact I
always have a smile on my face on a Friday morning.
Coming up Tech Friday, Love talking to Dave had her
Tech Friday to children at risk for identity theft. From
here we go. A new word we can learn together today, sharonting. Okay,

(01:11):
another topic, another stupid new TikTok trend, which is basically
boiled down to creating home invasion photos with artificial intelligence
in order to scare parents. Into calling nine to one
one that that's even a thing if you sit back
and make up something extraordinarily stupid whole cloth, go ahead

(01:32):
and sit down, come up with something that's dumber than
that anyway. Plus the TransUnion data breach, so your big
credit Union another data breach. Been through that one before.
We'll hear about that from Tech Friday's Dave Hatter, Steve Gooden,
counsel candidate Steve good and lawyer extraordinary Steve good and
Steve good from the law from a porter right return
to the fifty five Caresiting morning show to give us
a lowdown on his campaign. What's going on with that?

(01:55):
Plus apparently getting involved in a social media bickering with
Irish Rowley, which I guess is not difficult to do.
My understanding is if you mentioned your name, you're gonna
end up in some social media back and forth. That is,
if you choose to engage in social media. Steve Gooden,
as a candidate for office, must do that, I suppose

(02:18):
to some degree in spite of the fact that my
employer is not happy with me for it. You know,
you don't necessarily have to engage in social media if
you don't want to don't do it. I have a
minimalist presence out in the world on social media, and
I'm actually kind of proud of that. You can find
me on Facebook and you'll see me wish you a
happy Friday every Friday, as I did this morning. Let

(02:39):
you know where a listener lunch is, and maybe post
a picture of the Doberman or my grandkiddy ash Anyway,
we'll hear from the current Treasurer Robert Sprague, who's running
for Secretary of State. Robert Spragg joins the program after
Steve Good and Steve at seven oh five. Robert Spragg
at seven thirty. We'll get the latest on the campaign.

(03:00):
What is the Buckeye Business Loan Program? Plus Ohios to
begin accepting cryptocurrency as payment for state services? How's that
going to go? That's always like piece of God for me,
cryptocurrency anyway, Jack Windsor at eight oh five, editor in
chief of the iiO pres Network. Jack returns at eight
o five to talk about dwines war on Hemp and

(03:24):
Bill Sitz's property tax plan, the board that was created
after Governor de Wine vitos some of the tax relief
provisions in the budget. He promised big things from this
board of harumphers. Bill sites on that board. We're going
to find out what they came up with. Jack wins
is going to explain it to me, because the reporting
I read on it it was again also like the

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piece of God. It's like what I don't even really
quite understand what the proposals are. So smarter people to
me joined the program like Jack Windsor to get this
out and educate all of us on that. Finally, Joe
Drecker cracking me up this morning eight thirty. Did you
watch the debate last night between Corey Bowman and a

(04:05):
Toab Parvall. I'd love to hear from you. If you did,
please call five on three seven four nine fifty five hundred,
eight hundred and eighty two three talk count five fifty
on AT and T. Phondes have to acknowledge I couldn't
watch it. I was just I got to bed at
eight and last night I was just I was nodding
off before even eight o'clock. So I have to admit
that we'll hear from Joe's got it on the rundown.

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Jd Vance's half brother joins the program at eight thirty
to talk about the debate the aftermath and if social
media comments, and I did go to Facebook this morning
and a lot of people said he did a fantastic job,
some describing a f to have Provoll as arrogant and
a bit of a well we give an award era

(04:48):
in the fifty five KCEME morning show, typically in the
five o'clock hour, and some are suggesting maybe after a
Provall was worthy of the award. If you saw the debate,
you can let me know one way or the other,
who won the debate. What you who you thought made
better points? So he thought came across as a more
credible candidate. I saw that they were talking about crime
right out of the gate. Is the city safe? Do

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the candidates believe this city stafe? And all the reporting,
all the crime statistics show that violent crime is down.
Violent crimes do, however, we do have an uptick and
property crime, which is well reflected in certain areas in
downtown Cincinnati. Everybody seems to believe that crime is a
serious problem in downtown Cincinnati, notwithstanding what the crime stats suggests.
Corey Bauman suggested that these cities response to crime has

(05:31):
been a little too late. I think He's got a
valid argument on that we have all these beatdowns which
result in the city reacting, what do we get in
the aftermath of the multiple beatdowns? We had the stabbing
of Sarah Herringer's husband in their apartment, and over the rhyme,
we had Holly who's been on the thirty five Ksey
Morning Share, receiving an undist without question, an inexcusable, inexplicable

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punch of the face for doing literally nothing, which was
the result was a reaction, which is what Corey Bauman
pointed out. You know, you're being reactive, not proactive. Maybe
if we had a bigger police presence in downtown Cincinnati
before that beatown occurred, that might never have happened. That
kind of suggestion, which I think makes sense. Proval said
he believes statistics show that the crime is down, but

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he doesn't believe that matters to the residents who believe
that it is very dangerous out there. He said, what
matters is what's in the hearts and minds of Cincinnatians.
That's a good point perception. What people's lived experience is
a lot more important than reality what the crime statistics day.

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And I know a lot of people believe the crime
statistics have been fudged. I mean, if you can't even
find out there's a felony murder on the criminal docket
when you look, because the clerk courts took them off
of the criminal docket, you might not have a real
good perception of what's actually going on in terms of crime. Sorry,
I had to interject that, because we recently found that

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that was going on. So he said, what matters to
the hearts and minds of Cincinnatians. Many of them don't
feel safe, which is why the city council moved quickly
to prioritize visibility. For the first time in a very
long time, par Vall said, police officers are out of
their squad cars and walking to beat. Isn't that a
concession of Corey Bowen's part that you've been reactive. For

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the first time in a very long time, police officers
are out of their squad cars and walking to beat. Well,
why did it take so long to do that? Par
of All promised that we're going to continue to hiring
police officers. He'll continue to work with the police department,
who did not endorse him. He actually got asked about
the FOP since they didn't endorse him and voted no

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confidence earlier this year. He addressed the state how we
would win their support back. Parvall was asked about that,
he said he works to collaborate with the police. Talking
about the recruitment initiatives this council, he said, as opposed
to the past, as invested in recruit classes every single year,

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and we continue on that path, we will hit the
compliment that we need at some point in the future,
I might interject, we don't know when that's going to happen.
It's a little difficult getting police officers to actually well,
getting people actually to apply for the police officers to roll.
And if you get brand new people that got to
go through a recruit class, which takes like six months
or more, you can only do a couple of those

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a year. So you're trying to do lateral hires. And
there's only so many people out in the world that
are at a police department that might be willing to
come to the City of Cincinnati. Where I think the
perception is the government, the city council and the mayor
and the city manager don't really seek to get along
well with the police officers. Most of them are comprise
the folks who have been part of the defund the
police movement. So go ahead and work toward that goal.

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We can't get an immediate compliment. That's the problem. What
do you do with the with the resources you've got now.
So Bowman was endorsed by the FOP also noted that
the Firefighters Union didn't endorse AFTAB proval either. I don't
know that they hasn't endorsed Bowman, but they specifically have

(09:08):
refused to endorse AFTAB proval. Housing here's an interesting one.
Candidate's asked to address the housing development like in Hyde Park, which, really,
if I may be frank, at the five o'clock hour,
pissed off the residents of Hyde Park. That's why they
got a signature initiative to get it on the ballot.
Didn't have to do that because the city backed off

(09:29):
on its well dictatorial mandate that they were going to
do in Hyde Park what the city council told them
to do and they would have no say in it.
So you're walking into a real problem in that kind
of line of questioning. So what about Hyde Park? Bowman
said that it's the job of elected officials to reflect
the will of the voters. Interesting concept that one representative democracy,

(09:50):
pointed out by Corey Bowman. That's the reason you're in
the office. He criticized the Connected Community plan as well
he should, He said, the Hyde Park development was the
first time that we're seeing what is this connected Community's
issue is about. It's about city Hall dictating what zoning
needs to be for our communities without considering the voices
of the communities. Well, stated good point Corey Bowman. That's

(10:12):
exactly why the city capitulated and withdrew its imposition of
its plans on Hyde Park. I love Purvol's response, pointing
out Cincinnati's in a housing crisis and we need affordable housing. Now,
what is affordable housing? Market forces are going to dictate
that to a large degree, unless, of course, you do

(10:34):
a zoron mom dommy rent control kind of thing. Doesn't
exactly inspire investors that might otherwise build housing if you're
going to dictate what the rent can be. Nobody suggested
that yet. But what is affordable housing and how do
you bring it about? It's a big question. We're going
to do Section eight housing that kind of thing, So,

(10:54):
he said, the city's previous zoning laws were hindering progress.
Talk to Corey Bowman about that the previous zoning laws
were hindering progress, but they were preventing people from actually
investing in buildings. He had area of folks in his
area that wanted to put in housing. They wanted to
do their own thing. They had ideas that might make
the builder or the rehaber, as the case may be, profit,

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and all kinds of hurdles were thrown down in front
of those efforts by up the city its regulations, it's rules,
and its vision for what is approved or what will
be approved of what won't be approved. Purwell said that
they sometimes need to disagree with residents, they being the

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city council of the mayor in one part of town,
in order to address the needs of the residents in
the entire city, so Hy Park, you must capitulate to
the broader needs of the collective city of Cincinnati, even
though your neighborhood is completely separate and different from say,
Bond Hill or any other of the fifty two neighbors
in the neighborhoods in the city of Cincinnati. I don't know.

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We're going to do the hard, sometimes unpopular work of
building housing across Cincinnati because poll after poll shows you
we need housing and we need more, specifically affordable housing. Huh.
I think anyone could just generally say we all might

(12:28):
want affordable housing. Affordability is really I suppose a question
of individual family income. What is and what is not affordable? Anyway,
questions about immigration and the worst the Trump administration did
come up. How are you going to work with the
Trump administration? Among others? Did anybody play the drinking game
last night watching the debate? I'd love to hear from

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you again. Please call if you watch. I'd love to
know what your perceptions of it were. Five eighteen right
now if you If I've care, see detalk station. Plenty
of things to talk about before we get to Dave
at six point thirty in the next hour. Be right
back fifty five KRC the talk station. Appreciate that don
Eric Trump got a new book out. He's going to

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amstream the Audio Tech Friday with Dave Hatter's right there
to click on crime stopper bag guy that week. We'll
catch one later in the day. Of course, we had
Jay rattlafon yesterday, the our aviation expert, fun times with him.
I hope you saw that empower You summoner last night
on gen Z. Senator Ran Paul joined the program yesterday.
Congressman Warren Davidson, you got it on and on and
on fifty five kr sea dot Com over to the
Wall Street Journal speaking of crime, Urban crime spike is real,

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So what is your perception? What is the reality. Apparently
national crime is way up and point out President Trump's
crime is ramp at the US city's well. Critics assert
that it's under control and dropping that sounds like a
local issue or statement doesn't And Trump sent the National
Guard to select cities. Of course, a judge just yesterday
blocked Trump's Illinois National Guard deployment. Didn't see that coming

(14:19):
digit anyway. Associated Pressure reports that the president's rhetoric mirrors
that of conservatives going back decades who have denounced cities,
especially those with majority non white populations or led by
progressives as lawless or crime ridden and in need of
outside intervention. Ap having to go with Trump, so question mark,
they ask, have our cities become crime ridden and unpleasant

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or are they safe and livable? Then they turned to
the research from the Bureau of Justice Statistics National Crime
Victimization Survey, they suggested answers the question. The survey finds
at the rate of violent crime in urban areas increased
sixty one one percent between twenty nineteen and twenty twenty four. Oh,

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that spike only in cities. Turning to suburban and rural areas,
they said increase in violent crime over the same time
period four percent in suburban and two percent increase in
rural areas, which they say isn't statistically significant. There's your difference.
Live in a city, be faced with a massive increase

(15:25):
in crime, live out in the burbs, and you're gonna
be okay, they say. In twenty nineteen, before George Floyd,
pandemic closures, and the defund police movement, the rate of
violent crime in urban areas was roughly identical to the
rate nationwide. In twenty twenty four, the rate of violent
crime in urban areas forty six percent higher than the
nationwide rate, more than double one hundred and four percent

(15:48):
higher the rural rate. Pivoting over to property crime, they
say it's always been more prevalent in cities than elsewhere,
but the gap has widened. Nineteen property crime fifty one
percent higher in urban areas than nationwide twenty twenty four.
Are you ready eighty six percent higher number of property

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crime victimizations in twenty twenty four per thousand households one
hundred and eighty one point six in urban areas, ninety
one point six in suburban and only forty eight point
three in rural areas. Those rural and suburban areas looking
mighty appealing, aren't they? Rather than relying on police reports,
National Crime Victimization Survey asked US residents whether they were

(16:33):
a crime victim recently. If so, says the nature asks
the nature of the crime, demographics of those involved, and
whether crime was reported the police. Nation's largest crime survey
has been conducted since the Nixon administration, so it goes
back quite a bit. One thing the survey cannot measure,
the Journal points out, is homicide race, as it's a
survey of victims this survey conducted murders, they say are

(16:56):
the easiest crime to count, so police statistics in this
room should be quite reliable. Homicide count in two cities
that Trump sent guards to District of Columbia, look there,
number homicides rose thirteen percent that time period twenty nineteen
to twenty twenty four, and sixty one percent up if
you put it back to twenty seventeen and compare it
to Trump twenty twenty four. Homicides about doubled between twenty

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nineteen and twenty four, and they say it's true. Both
cities had even more murders than twenty one and twenty
twenty two than twenty twenty four. That shows how high
their murder rates were before falling back. It's that's that
COVID era murder rate. As to the demographics of the crime,
survey finds a likelihood that whites, blacks, and Hispanics will

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be victims matches the percent of the population. Fifty two
percent of incidents involving black victims also featured black offenders.
The result not true for any other racier group. They say,
including up the survey results, the primary reason black residents
were disproportionately likely to be victims of crime despite the

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high rate of interracial crime, is that there are comparatively
few crimes committed against black victims by white offenders. Survey
shows white residents made up sixty percent of the population,
yet were offenders in only seven percent of incidents involving
black victims. That's the connection between crime and crime is

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Black on black crime is statistically much more significant than
white on black crime, they say, and conclude most overlook
US crime story in recent years has been the huge
crime spike in our cities. Violent crime doesn't rise in
suburban or rural areas, but rises sixty one percent in
urban areas. That should be big news. They conclude. Trump

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is right that American cities aren't nearly as safe as
they were before. Systemic racism became a familiar accusation and
defund the police became a rallying crime stir that pot
of division, defund the police, low and behold, crime goes
through the roof five point twenty seven Right now, fifty
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Speaker 3 (19:07):
Fifty five KRC fall is Sports season.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Five thirty one on it Friday, one hour for Now
Tech Friday with Dave hat Or. Next, Steve Gooden returned
in the program talk about the campaign got Treasure, Robert
Sprague running for Secretary of State. Coming up, Jack wins Or,
editor in chief the High Press Network, coming up, Dwin's
war on Him, plus sites property tax Bill. Can't wait
to have Jack on the program to explain that property
tax plan. Plus jd Vance's half Corey Bowman at eight

(19:34):
thirty to talk about the debate. Over to the phones.
Let's see what Tom's got this morning, Tom, thanks for calling.
Happy Friday brother.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
Good morning, And today is the day I broke out
the hoodie for the first time this season. So I
figure forty two degrees warrants, that's why a hooded sweatshirt.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yeah, I thought about that when I got out of
my car. You know, my world reality is I am
in my garage walking to my car, which takes about
five seconds to get in my car. My garage obviously
a lot, you know, more comfortable than outside. Then I
get out of my car and I park in the
parking garage here and I'm only outdoors for another ten
seconds as I walk into the elevator area. So I

(20:13):
felt the cold, and I thought, yeah, maybe I should
say something about putting a jacket on this morning, but
I'm not exposed to the temperatures enough to feel like
I really need one.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
You have a rough life, Brian.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
I know I did.

Speaker 5 (20:24):
It must be tough being you. Now.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
The only difficult thing about being me is getting up
at two thirty in the morning and having to miss
things like the debate. Yeah, that's that's it. Was it crime?

Speaker 4 (20:34):
Some of us get up, some of us get up
at two thirty in the morning, but not to go
to work, if you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Yes, anyway, I'm sixty.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
Yeah, yeah, you're sixty. You know exactly what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
There's a lot of guys laughing right now.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
Yeah, yeah, you're you're talking about crime this morning, and
you're talking about what causes crime. And I mean, it's
a it's a no brain there where. I mean, we're gonna,
we're gonna beat this drum, beat the dead horse, whatever
you want to call it.

Speaker 5 (21:04):
It's uh. Yeah, when you.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
Take away something that stops people from misbehaving, oh they're
gonna misbehave. It's just it's common sense, it's human nature.
I don't understand I don't understand what the discussion is about.
What what why? Some people just don't get it. You
have to have uh, well, what do you call it? Guardrails, roadbox?

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You gotta have you know, the bouts are standing at
the door. You have to have a presence of something
that people say, Hey, you know what, I'm probably gonna
I'm probably gonna behave myself because I don't want to
deal with that.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Well, let me ask that that you have. You have
trouble in form a couple of forms. And I'm wondering
whether you suspect that the the erosion of people's faith
and higher power has anything to do with the increase
in crime, because when you know, growing up, I always
like sort of felt the wrath of God might come
down to harm me. You know, if you're planning on
doing something wrong, You've got your parents to worry about,

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you have society, your peers to worry about and how
they look at you. You have the criminal justice system
and whether or not your activity or your anticipated behavior
might land you in the hands of the police officers.
But then there was always that threat, in that fear
that there might be some sort of divine retribution in
the afterlife if you committed it. God views what I'm
planning on doing as a sin, so maybe I might

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want to not do that. Yeah, you think there's any
connection with that?

Speaker 4 (22:25):
Absolutely, fear of consequences. I mean, look at the left
is look what the left has tried to remove from
society and been fairly successful at it. I mean, you
go all the way to the top, the most important
thing about God, removing God from everything they can possibly
removing from, treating people who believe in God and who

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fear God or whatever, treating us like we're terrible people
and we're trying to browbeat other people. Know, We're just
trying to tell you we believe in God and we
don't want to upset him. We want to make him
happy with us. Yeah, some of it is because we
don't want his punishment. And then you go all the
way down to your parents, and then you talk about teachers.

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In school, there was always somebody around who would say
something and be able to do something about your behavior,
and kids knew this. They don't know this anymore because
the people who have who have the ability to do
something about it, have been scared into not doing anything
about it. Don't I'm not gonna say nothing to these
kids because I don't want my carkeet or whatever. It's

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become acceptable to lash out of the people who are
in place to keep our society going on the straight
and narrow and real quick to do something. Do you
think Hamas accepting the Trump's piece deal. Do you think
that him bowling up those boats in the Caribbean had

(23:50):
any effect whatsoever on their decision to go, you know what,
we might want to go along with this. This dude,
this dude looks like he's gonna he's willing to do something.

Speaker 5 (24:01):
You know.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
I don't know if if he had that in mind.
I don't necessarily agree with doing that, but you know,
when you do stuff like that, it lets people know,
you know what, I might not want to mess with
this guy. And sometimes mom and dad have to do
stuff like that, you know, not cross the line or
do something illegal, just show hey, I'm willing to step

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in front of you and stop you from doing whatever
it is you're going to do. You have to let
people know that, because if you don't, all bets are
off and it's mass chaos. And that's exactly what the
left is about. Let's let everybody do whatever they feel
like doing, and it's reaping the benefits of exactly what
they're out to get. So don't vote Rhino and don't

(24:43):
vote Democrats.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Have a great weekend, Brian, Yeah, you have a great
weekend too. Yeah. Donald Trump did issue a profound threat saying, listen,
you don't get in a settlement agreement. You don't you
don't you don't end this war, you don't release the hostages.
It's going to be a world of wrath of God
type fury is going to be needed down upon you. Heye,
And maybe they did put the two together. Trump's willing
to violate the Constitution in the United States of America,
and will he nearly go around bombing boats that he

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doesn't even know if they're coming to the United States
of America anymore? Jesus, this guy's maybe unhinged. Let's perhaps capitulate,
just boiling it down from a different point of view.
There five point thirty seven fifty five krs DE talk
station this Saturday, and.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
The talk station, can you play John the Fisherman?

Speaker 1 (25:23):
It is five forty one, it is Friday. The answer
to that question is always yes, as long as Joe
Striker's exactly show, the fifty five Karsite Morning Show, and
always putting a smile on the face of my friend Jeff,
who anxiously awaits the moment. But you can hear less
hit the base round, Good morning, Jeff. Stack of stupid. Now,

(25:52):
if you had to boil it on the stack of
stupid two three critical elements, they would include a naked
person that's not a Friday anyway. A naked person in
Florida in a Walmart. We have a trifecto fund Amen
brother nine one one call about a naked guy chasing
Walmart employees around a parking lot in North Florida. Man

(26:14):
was still naked when police showed up. It was a
quarter to three in the morning on a Wednesday, October eighth.
Lake City Police Department responded to the responded it happened
to Walmart West US Highway ninety, Lake City, Florida. The
store was closed at the time. Court of police found arrival.
Officers advised that an unknown male completely nude, was chasing
employees in the parking lot and had fled toward a

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wooded area north of the store. Officers canvassy area located
to the guy in his hands and knees in a
wooded area. The subject appeared to be agitated and paranoid.
Taken to the hospital of the staff, medically cleared and
to be arrested and taken a jail. Identified at the
jail via fingerprints, charged with indecent exposure and resisting an

(26:56):
officer without violence. Drugs are I'm going that direction to
Joe paranoia entergy equation, and I'm going to flag it
as a drug issue. Oh, we got a local one here.
It involves public nudity. It does not involve the Walmart,
though it involves a TJ Max. Thirty year old man

(27:16):
arrested Thursday, September twenty fifth, just reported last week facing
multiple charges, including theft and public nudity at the TJ
Max on Ohio Pike or just off Ohio Pike. Union
Township Police Department. Insert report said Cody Partridge now facing
charges of disorderly conduct, resistant arrests, substructing official business, and
of course, public indecency. Eleven thirty six am Tuesday, September

(27:39):
twenty third, officers called a responder to a disturbance. Employee
told police the Partridge inside the store yelling and screaming.
Partridge barely removed several backpacks from the shelf, put them
inside his own bag, also took down a shelf items
ended up on the ground. After that, he then exited
the store with the stolen stuff. Returned later. At that point,

(27:59):
comple deletely naked and yelled at staff and customers. They
say the incident escalated when he picked up a pair
of sweatpants, began arguing with a customer before leaving the store,
and during the altercation, I love this when my concealed
cary friends out there, he threatened the customer with a
pair of scissors. The customer, in response, pulled out a firearm.

Speaker 6 (28:23):
Idiots doing idiot things because they're idiot.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Told Partridge to drop the scissors, that says the customer
then secured his firearm and exited the store to distance
himself from Partridge. The appropriate way of handling the situation.
Police got there by stead it poured it out Partridge,
who was then shirtless and wearing gray pants, continuing to
yell profanities. Officers instructed him to stop. He ignored them

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after warning him he would be taste. He still attempted
to walk away from the officers, and they said eventually
one of them in fact used the taser, which in
opacitated mister Partridge. He continued resisting while on the on
the ground. Officers ultimately were able to apprehend him. A
quarter of a report. There were no indication that he

(29:11):
was under the influence of drugs or alcohol at the
time of the incident. Just plain old batcrap insane five
point forty five right now fifty five krs de talk station,
more stupid or phone calls either the way he goes
aokay with naked guy happened last week. He said he
was being bitten by snakes, phrasing Troy Edward Adkins, fifty

(29:32):
nine of Let's See Whiteville charged with a misdemeanor indecent
exposure and intoxicated and disruptive. Also charged with an unrelated
speeding ticket from Chadbourne Police. Bond set at five hundred dollars.
Shaff's report said deputies were called to the Seven Creeks
Highway about five am after reports of this naked guy
our behaving erratically. They found him in a ditch and,

(29:56):
according to the Urest report, exhibiting signs of extreme and
time oxication and disorientation and pulling at his genital area phrasing.
In a related point, apparently, he told deputies that snakes
were biting him phrasing, and asked them to quote cut

(30:19):
the head off close quote phrasing. No, you think he's
a hockey player, Joe at getting deliberate penalties to get
in the penalty box. Oh, a snapshot. I don't know
considering the what he was engaged in by way of
behavior at the time he said cut the heat off.
He was he referring to phrasing We're left to jar

(30:43):
our own conclusions. Taken the Columbus Regional for evaluation, and
arrested after release. Oh look, naked guy.

Speaker 5 (30:54):
Good.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
We're in New Jersey for this one. We're a vilad
man accusa committe multiple lewed acts on Highbee Beach during
the month of August, corn to Lower Township Police. In
the first incident, a woman told police that she had
an interaction with the guy, later identified as forty four
year old Leonardo L. Madero. She said it made her uncomfortable.

(31:17):
Madera briefly left the area, reappeared naked and committing a
lewd act phrasing. A few days later, two people reported
a similar incident with a man committing a lewd act
where they were in a highby beach. Description given was
similar to the prior act that was I just mentioned,
with acts seemingly being committed by the same person. Madero
identified as the suspect charged with multiple counts of ludenis

(31:43):
currently residing in the Cape May County Correctional Facility. A
woman who had worked as a substitute teachers now been
charged with allegedly arranging to meet a minor for the
purposes of engaging in sexual activity. Thirty year old how

(32:05):
are you doing? We have no idea because you're an idiot.
Thirty year old Crystal Sims, Cave City, charged with unlawfully
using electronic communication to solicit, procure, or promote a child
for sexual activity. Arrested October second after an interview with
the Baron County Sheriff's deputy. Released from that detention center
on a twenty five thousand dollars cash bond. Deputy Adam

(32:28):
Bo said he received information that Sims had been communicating
with a male juvenile for the purpose of meeting him
for sex. Student told the deputy that she he had
met Simms when she was the substitute teacher in his class,
who's watching your children? Student added, Simms later accept that
a friend request he's center on Snapchat. Student told deputies
out on August twenty second that he and Sims began

(32:49):
talking about meeting in Cave City to have sex and
recorded call man of the same day. A female can
be heard asking the juvenile if he is coming to
meet her. This edited the call later transitioned to a
video call in which she exposed breasts on the call
while she was in a shower.

Speaker 6 (33:11):
Idiots doing idiot things because they're idiots.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
While being recorded, so she had to record herself naked
in the shower. Brilliant. She was told deputies October second
that while substitute teachers, several boys in the class attempted
to add her on social media, but she didn't accept
any of those requests. She admitted to being the female
in the recorded call. I guess because it's her and
her boobs in the call, but said that she had

(33:36):
agreed to meet the student so that he could apologize
for the way he acted in class. Claims she didn't
meet the juils student and nothing physical happened between them. Yeah,
so conceivable, you really, I see? Okay, So you're on
the call to arranged for an apology meeting. Why were

(34:00):
you in the shower naked recording yourself having that conversation? Yeah,
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(34:22):
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(34:43):
and forth with Iris Rawley, the defund the police activists
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(35:04):
from the Ohio Press Network on Dwine's war on him
and Bill Sitz property tax plan, along with Corey Bowman,
who's going to join the program at eight three to
talk about the debate last night. Someone who's on the
phone right now, former Vice mayor of the City of Cincinnati,
mister smith Van himself running for Cincinnati Council. Christopher Smithman.
Welcome back, my friend. You're always welcome on the morning.
Should you get a chance to tune into the debate

(35:26):
last night, I.

Speaker 7 (35:28):
Did Brian and a couple of observations, and I'll have
more on Monday during the Smither event. But one of
the things, you know the politician and power is hit
in the wrong direction or is worried, is when he
spends part of his debate blaming the previous administration. Yeah,

(35:50):
we spent time acting as if Mayor John Cranley or
our city manager Paula Bogg's new thing are responsible for
his current and condition. This guy has been the mayor
for years, four years. You've got to own it, and
so when you I just I'm signaling to the citizens

(36:12):
of Cincinnati as they vote today in Norwood, here's a
guy that wouldn't own anything. That's observation observation one. Observation
two for me was he acted as if he supported
the police the entire debate. Look, the Cincinnati Police Department

(36:33):
took a no confidence vote in this mayor. I have
never seen it before. So you have the police department saying, look,
I don't have any confidence in this man's leadership or
his administration. But if you heard him talking yesterday, you
would think that he was the greatest supporter of the

(36:53):
police department, when it is absolutely the opposite. I can't
wait to hear at some point from press than in
cob because there are two stories here in the story
that I believe Brian Thomas is the story coming out
of the FOP saying we have nine hundred and thirty
or so officers, two hundred of them are in drop.

(37:16):
We've had a administration that has been not supporting us.
It's made it more difficult for us to recruit. That
this is an administration that absolutely is a defund The
police are reimagine the police. They're even hiring a central
consultant who absolutely doesn't support the police department paying them

(37:41):
almost six hundred thousand dollars, and he stands before the
City of Cincinnati when crime is out of control, saying
that is John Cranley's fault. The previous administration in some
way is responsible for his failures.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Well, that's what I read, and I get you all day.
He has been there quite some time, and his his
his points on his reaction to the crime. You know,
he says, well that the stats are down, but I
understand people's perceptions. The crime is bad and we have
you know, reacted to that. Well, he only did it
after Holly got punched in the face and we had
the brutal brawl that was just at the end of

(38:18):
July in the fourth year of his term as the
mayor of the City of Cincinnati. It was at that
point that he decided to sort of rethink the way
Patris police patrols are going to be and to start
enforcing the curfew, at least in certain neighborhoods in the city.
I mean, that was in response. That was Corey's point,
wasn't it that you're reactive? You should be proactive.

Speaker 7 (38:40):
Exactly, And also the observation that we just had an
active shooting on Fountain Square this week, not two months ago,
literally this week, and so they presented this question to
both candidates that crime was down. This is coming from
the moderator. This is coming from the inquirer. Crime is down.

(39:03):
It's your perception. He's saying that, and those questions are
being asked. Think about this with Ronda Win, whose daughter
Cassandra Win was shot in the back in OTR kill
this year, just months ago, and with Holly sitting right
in front of them, like in.

Speaker 5 (39:23):
The front row. So you have these two of it.

Speaker 7 (39:25):
The only person who wasn't there was Sarah Hearing Hearinger,
who's who's whose husband Patrick was killed in OTR this
year in his own home. I'm saying, you have the inquirer,
the moderator, whoever this was, is Xavier even presenting the
question that crime is down and it's your perception and

(39:45):
my perception not reality, right, and the mayor doubling down
on that while these victims are right in front of him.
He could have easily said, right then, Holly, I am
so sorry for what happened to you. Ronda. I am
so sorry, Ronda win. What happened to your daughter on
my watch? She was shot in her back, thirty shots fired.

(40:08):
She was an innocent victim, a mother of five. He
has no connection with the reality of what you and
I and citizens are experiencing. That's the problem. This guy
is disconnected from reality. And so the question with leading.
I thought Corey did a good job answering it. But

(40:29):
there has to be a tremendous pushback at the ballot
box when people are voting, whether you're a Democrat, Independent,
or Republican, there has to be an action, Brian Thomas.
People can't just sit around and listen to this mayor
give them four more years. We're in an election and
then go in and cast a vote for here?

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Would you since you live in the city of Cincinnati
and you're always out canvassing and connection with your effort
to become since councilman again, you obviously have great connections
with a lot of neighbors in the community, and you will.
I mean, you're just you're informed. Do you get the
perception that the residents of the city of Cincinnati are
enthused about voting for a FTA pervo means a blue city.

(41:10):
Corey Bowman's got this massive uphill challenge. He's got to
win over the hearts and minds of people who usually
don't even vote. And that's the point of my question.
People will go out and vote when they're enthused about
a candidate, and if we're typically have a ten percent
fifteen percent turnout, I mean, that's maybe Corey Bowman's salvation
because I know people who know Corey Bowman and want
to see a different direction of the city. They seem

(41:32):
to be very motivated. The only problem is most of
the people that are truly motivated for Corey Bowman don't
even live in the city of Cincinnati. So what's your
perception of the lay of the landscape among the residents.

Speaker 7 (41:43):
Well, Democrats in the city that I'm speaking to. We
were lid dropping in Mount Adams yesterday and there were
Democrats that we spoke to who are not supporting him
because they're very concerned about crime. So that was the feedback.
There were others that were saying, I'm going to hold
my nose or not show up at all and vote

(42:06):
for him because I am concerned about Donald Trump. And
we were trying to explain to those citizens that this
local election has nothing to do with Donald Trump. But
that's why you saw the mayor during the debate start
talking about Maga. Maga, he Keith, he's Keith. He's worried

(42:26):
about the re election. So what he's trying to do
is deflect and make this election about Donald Trump and
not about his terrible policies and the direction and his
inability to keep our fifty two neighborhoods and its residents faith.
That is his number one responsibility and he has failed

(42:50):
and the members of council has failed to do that.
That is why the police department took a no confidence
vote in his leadership.

Speaker 5 (42:59):
But if you heard him, he was.

Speaker 7 (43:00):
Spending more time talking about Maga and Trump and the
moderators refeeding him red meat, allowing him to walk down
that road with Corey Bowman standing next to him. This
election has nothing to do with that. Politics are local.
If you want your popholes fixed, if you want your
your if you want your snow removed, if you want

(43:23):
your trash removed, if you want to be safe with
police in fire, you've got to vote for Corey Bowman.
And so the other step that he took was he
said anybody and everybody supporting Corey Bowman is a MAGA person, right.
This is the MAGA ticket again. This is this cultural
signaling that he's trying to get his base and he's

(43:45):
trying to feed them in this most extreme way. Not
talking about the gunshots, the murders. I live in North Avondale.
There was a twenty five year old killed right in
Evingston in the last two weeks. I was lit dropping
in rolls line last weekend at twelve thirty in the afternoon,
there was a young man murdered in an apartment. His

(44:09):
body was still inside. I want you to hear that,
Brian Thomas, his body was still inside. As I just
happened to be lid dropping in Roseline. I'm saying, this
is the level of violence that's happening around us, whether
it's downtown, whether the woman who put up on a

(44:29):
Facebook page in Hyde Park that she's sitting at a
light and a group of young men get out of
their car broad daylight with guns and try to hijack
her car, try to take her out of her carjacker.
This is the craziness that's going on around us. And
the mayor just stood there yesterday saying it's your perception public,

(44:51):
it's the previous administration. This is John Cranley, this is
the previous city manager. Paula Balg's new things faught. It's
not me, and he did own anything. I thought Corey
did a good job. I think the mayor was trying
to be a bully. And the last point I want
to make, the outbursts that were happening in the audience
were an embarrassment.

Speaker 5 (45:12):
Look, if you're going.

Speaker 7 (45:13):
To hold a debate and be a moderator and you
start the debate off and you say I only want
applause at the beginning and applause at the end, there's
a point of that because you don't want to lead.
Something was happening in that audience yesterday that was absolutely inappropriate,
and the moderator didn't shut it down. You're you're clapping

(45:35):
and yelling and shouting while the city manor, while the
mayor is talking about the collaborative agreement. I don't know
who those people were, but I tell you that was
a poor showing for the moderator to not shut that down.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
Christopher Smithman will hear you on Monday at seven twenty.
Every Monday here in the fifty five Kresey Morning Show
the Smith. Keep up the great work, my friend, and
good looking the campaign trail looks like west Side. Jim
Cleveland on the line. We'll get those calls immediately. Have
talk station six I fifty five Kerr see the talk station.
Happy Friday, Bottom the Air of course Tech Friday with

(46:13):
Dave Hatter always something I look forward to. And David,
you two, and it's always good to hear from west Side.
Jim next in line on the phones. What's said? Welcome
to the program, my friend. Good to hear from you
this morning.

Speaker 5 (46:25):
Morning.

Speaker 8 (46:25):
Brian, Yes, I watched every minute of it last night,
and first off, I like to comment on Corey. He
did a great job of sidetracking duck Boy when he
called him mister Bowman, Corey and Corey Bowman. So that's
the old political strategy of trying to kick off your

(46:48):
opponent by mentioning their names like that and seeing how
they would react. And Corey was very professional in each
one of those circumstances, and he didn't bite on what
he did. Now, I will give Purvall one credit. He
was well prepared through his bobos on mentioning the things

(47:10):
that he was trying to convince the public that Corey
was not qualified, and basically he kind of softballed that
several times about the fact of, oh, if you want
to run the city or you want to be mayor,
and those kind of, you know, objectives to Corey, and
Corey handled it very very well. Now, I don't the

(47:34):
one softball that was thrown Corey's way, and I hope
he brings it up in the next debate is when
Holly got decked, and you know, it was mentioned last
night and it was kind of dropped pretty quick. I
hope he brings it up about the fact that he
was out of town Purple and didn't respond. And I

(47:57):
don't think he's ever did respond to Holly, And I'm
not sure.

Speaker 5 (48:00):
About that, but about the fact that.

Speaker 8 (48:03):
He didn't call her, didn't participate. I don't think he
had any of his city manager or anybody else call
her and see what her situation was.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Why I asked her that last week of listener lunch
and as of last Wednesday, anyone that he had not
reached out to her at all.

Speaker 8 (48:19):
Yeah, and I don't think he will, No, I really don't.
It's Kevin Aldridge, is what Christopher was talking about. That
was the moderator. He's a bleeding liberal, works for the Enquirer.
If he doesn't work for the Enquirer, he's one of
their outlying people.

Speaker 5 (48:36):
But I think it was a good debate.

Speaker 8 (48:40):
I think the next one will tell more because it's
going to be on live TV, so people will listen
and watch. It was very easy to find last night.
It took me probably a minute, so I'm hoping a
lot of people watched it. As far as the audience
speaking out and clapping, I did hear a lot of

(49:00):
stuff for for Corey, unless I'm mistaken, when he was
bringing up points about the crime and things like that,
and granted, Christopher's right.

Speaker 5 (49:10):
You shouldn't. You shouldn't do that.

Speaker 8 (49:13):
But I did notice that Corey did get a lot
of response on some of his answers, so I'm happy
it went that way.

Speaker 5 (49:22):
Again.

Speaker 8 (49:23):
He handled himself very professionally, and the question of he
can handle this city part of all walked into the
clerk's office. The clerk's office, for god's sakes, that's about
as non political as far as a reputation and qualification
as you can get.

Speaker 5 (49:39):
It's a job, and yes.

Speaker 8 (49:42):
It is a Democrat job right now, and when he
walked in it was a Democrat job. But that doesn't
qualify him to be mayored. So why not give Corey
a chance? I mean, this guy has failed miserably, so
there's no reason not to give you know, a city
a new chance. And again, I'm not going to keep

(50:04):
beating a dead horse. But Corey did a great job
on coming back on everything that that Purvoll came outing with.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
Glad to hear it. Well, appreciate your analysis and look
forward to the next debate and we'll see how things
go and encourage people to tune in to watch it.
West Side, Jim, I hope you have a fantastic weekend,
my friend. Appreciate you all lot. I really do. Sorry
couldn't get to the other callers because well, we're out
of time in the segment and Tech Friday with Dave
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Speaker 9 (50:49):
Always my pleasure to be here, Brian.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
And a new word. This one's new on me. Every
time you show up you typically have a new word.
I've learned a lot from you over the years. Today,
Sharon ting, what the hell was that?

Speaker 6 (51:02):
Well, the concept is not new, but the word is
relatively new. Until I stumbled into this article, I had
not heard this term myself. Good And it's the idea
of parents sharing things online. For a long time, experts
have warned that parents share too much information about their kids,
and I think over the years, you and I have
talked about the fact that kids are often targeted for

(51:25):
identity theft, because if you can steal the identity of
a small child, it might be many years, if not
maybe a decade or more before they realize that their
identity has been stolen, you know, when they go to
get a loan, maybe apply for college, sure, go to
apply for a job or something like that. So it's
been well known in the industry that kids are targets

(51:45):
of identity theft, and this is on my mind a
really interesting term that can hopefully put a finer point
on this for parents that if you're going online and
sharing lots of information about your kids, photos, information about
what they do, information about their pets, and so forth,
it may eventually come back to bite them. And I
think it also is trying to drive home the point

(52:07):
that people typically don't really understand the idea of privacy
on the internet. Just because you're on TikTok and you
set something to private when you post it, does not
mean that whoever can see it won't take a screenshot
of it or something like that and share it with
Does it mean that the company that has that data
might not sell it or it might get breached. So
it's really a warning to parents that the less you

(52:31):
share about your kids, the better. And again, the idea
of this has been out there for a long time,
but I think this is sort of a catchy way
to hopefully drive this point home from parents and get
them to put less information online about their kids.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
That's interesting because my wife is probably listening right now.
She traditionally listens to my program in the morning when
she's getting ready for work, and she's probably nodding and
smiling and basically saying, yeah, I told you so. Because
I rarely over the life of my children, I have
read really posted a picture of them. It's not because
I don't love them or I'm not proud of them.

(53:03):
It's because my wife and I have a rule. We
don't put pictures of the kids up on social media period.
End of story. My wife doesn't use even social media.
But I remember one time I put a picture of
my I don't know my daughter or son up there,
maybe both of them. Man, I got an earful when
I got home, I mean an earful.

Speaker 9 (53:19):
So well, that's the right approach.

Speaker 6 (53:22):
I agree where I understand, and you know, I can't
say I've never been guilty of this, especially when my
oldest kids were younger. You know, I think especially when
social media was new and people didn't really understand these risks.
And I get as a parent, you know, you're proud
of your kids. You love your kids, right, you want
to you want to brag on them because you're proud
of them and you want to make them feel good

(53:42):
and that sort of thing. But here's what I think
people often lose sight of, especially now in the age
of AI, where it's not just the identity theft angle,
it's bullying, it's things like sex stortation, which we've talked
about before, and as a reminder, many kids have killed
themselves because they have been extorted by folks. And while
you know, some of these kids have made a mistake

(54:04):
and send a nude photo or something, I know you
and I've talked about the stories where use an AI
you can take someone's photo and basically make them appear
to be nude. You know, if you're a fourteen year
old kid and suddenly a fake nude picture of you
is sent to you and someone says, send me money,
are you going to be able to have the ability
to say, well, that's just a deep fake and I

(54:24):
don't care.

Speaker 9 (54:25):
You know.

Speaker 6 (54:26):
So there's a lot of different angles to this, but
you know, the identity theft one is where this mostly goes,
and it's it's the whole idea of you know, if
you put a picture of your kid on there with
their pet Fluffy, or a picture of them at their
first day at school X think about this. How many
times have you had to reset a password? And when
you set up your account, there these security questions. What

(54:48):
was your first school, what was your first pet, Well,
the bad guys potentially have access to that information through
information you're sharing about your kids, so when.

Speaker 9 (54:58):
They do their in nefarious.

Speaker 6 (55:00):
And you also have to understand, folks, so many of
the people who are behind the kind of crimes I'm
talking about here are essentially professional con artists. They're just
not out on the street trying to run a scam
on you like in the movie to Sting. They're now
using these online tools to collect information, to impersonate you,
to impersonate someone else, to steal your information. So again,

(55:22):
you've got the sextortation risk, you've got the bullying risk,
you've got the identity theft risk. And for all of
those reasons, as much as you may love your kids
and you really just want to be out there promoting
them and you know, proud of them, you really are
better off if you share as little as possible, or
frankly nothing online.

Speaker 9 (55:43):
And that's just where we're at.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
That's where we're at. I appreciate my wife give me
an earful at one time, and I don't think I've
done it very many times since I saw he ever
appreciate it, and she is listening. She just texted me
and said yes, I'm listening. So there you have it,
Dave Had. We're going to continue another n talk Station
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Pivoting over. Kids do stupid things. I toarted trying to
remember back, Dave, if I was ever stupid enough to
do something like this another TikTok trend. Let's have it.

Speaker 6 (56:28):
Well, Brian, you know, I know you and I have
said this many times over the years we've been doing
this show. Thank God none of this stuff existed when
we were teenagers. I was a total idiot when I
was a teenager, and I cannot tell you how happy
I am that none.

Speaker 9 (56:41):
Of this stuff existed.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
Amen.

Speaker 6 (56:43):
Now, I don't know, I don't know that I would
have done something like this, because it's actually kind of
mind numbing to me that someone would even think of
this and would them think, Hey, this would be a
funny prank. But the basic gist is and apparently this
has shown up a couple of times and the Brown
County Sheriff has learned about this, which is how I
first found out about it. In some other reporting that

(57:05):
kids are basically using generative AI tools, you know, think chat,
GPT or something like that, Sora vo three from Google,
that you know, a lot of these things CROC have
the capability not only to generate text, but generate audio
and or video and photos. And they're going in and

(57:26):
they're creating very realistic looking and I'm going to use
this term, I just call it an image rather than
a photo, because it's not a photo, and it's they're
just creating an image that looks like someone breaking into
a house. And then they call their parents and send
this photo on the phone, right and say someone's breaking in. Well,
of course, you know they think this is a funny prank. Now,

(57:48):
if you're a parent, what are you going to do
when your kids sends you a photo that appears to
be someone breaking into your house?

Speaker 9 (57:55):
Right?

Speaker 6 (57:56):
Of course you're going to panic, you know, are you
going to really scrutinize the photo? Go, well, I don't know,
maybe that looks like it could have been generated by AI.
I mean, first off, what parent would even think of that,
because it would not even occur to me that my
kid had done something like that. And then secondarily, again
you know, while I'm always trying to encourage people, don't
trust anything you see at this point, you know, look

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for any sort of tell that it might be AI.
One of the things you'll often see, Brian, when someone
generates a video or an image using AI is things
will be a little off, especially like if there's a
logo on their shirt. If you look at it real carefully,
it will often just be some nonsensical mumbo jumbo. Well, again,
what parent is going to scrutinize the photo at that

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level if they think their kid is under assault?

Speaker 1 (58:42):
I guess so. It might depend upon the age of
the kid who sent this. But my immediate reaction, at
least when I heard this was someone's actively breaking in
the home, You took a picture of them, and you
didn't call the police. First I would go home and
if this actually happen, then after I dealt with the situation,
made sure everybody's okay, metaphorically slap them across the face

(59:06):
for being an idiot in contacting me before they got
in touch with the authorities.

Speaker 6 (59:10):
Yeah, I mean you would hope that you would have
drilled into your kids all along. Yeah, don't forget your address, Johnny.
And you know, Susie, if you're home and there's an emergency,
don't call me first, dial nine one one. You know,
you'd hope those are the kind of conversations you'd be
having with their kids, your kids. But again, think of
the panic that's going to sweep over you if you

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get something like that. Plus, how would you know that
they didn't call.

Speaker 9 (59:36):
Nine one one already?

Speaker 6 (59:37):
Well, of course the parents call nine one one. You know,
the police show up, you've wasted their resource. And I
would argue this is almost a form of swatting self swatting, Right.
Swatting is this idea that someone that doesn't like you,
for whatever reason, often for political reasons, calls the police
and claims there's a shooting going on at your address,
or domestic violence or whatever. You know, the police obviously

(01:00:00):
are obligated to respond to kicking the door. People have
been killed in these swanning incidents. You know, this is
almost like a form of self swanting. When your mom
calls nine to one to one, So it's you know,
I think kids don't realize a the risk they're putting
themselves in by doing this, be the risk they're putting
society in, and the waste of resources, and see the

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potential long term consequences to their reputation, you know. And
I'm not an attorney. It's probably going to depend on
the jurisdiction. But this is potentially a crime. So again,
it's hard for me to imagine how any kid would
think that this would be a funny prank. But apparently
some have done this now, and you know, so the
warning is going out war your kids that hey, even

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though you can and to me, Brian, this even goes
beyond just this incident. Yes, you can get on these
tools now and generate all kinds of things, things that
could potentially backfire horrifically on you and cause problems for
you well into your future. So I think the broader topic,
in my mind is really have a talk with your
kids about these tools, how they should and should not

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use them, and certainly not to use them in any
way that would potentially cause law enforcement related and legal
consequences for them and your family potentially again many years
into the future.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
Well or emotional harm. You mentioned just photoshopping a naked
body onto it one of your classmates heads that could
be really really dangerous. I mean, someone could commit suicide
as a consequence of an image like that. So you
really need to have a heart to heart with them,
Maybe get some illustrations like Dave brought up this morning,
and walk through how something innocent could turn really really bad. So, yeah,

(01:01:42):
that's a very helpful exercise for people to have with
their I guess younger people at home, Dave had or
I guess.

Speaker 9 (01:01:49):
Run real quick ups to this.

Speaker 6 (01:01:51):
Brian is in addition to us talking about it, you know,
parents could go out there now and find examples of
this stuff in the press and go say, okay, Johnny,
here's an example where some kid did this.

Speaker 9 (01:02:01):
Here's how it went wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Yeah, don't do this exactly. Very very valuable communication, all right,
coming up? Oh goodie, TransUnion data breach. We got that
to talk about with Dave had of what that might
mean for see the talk station six fifty fifty five
kre Cede talk dation. It's Friday. We're doing Tech Frida
with Dave Hatter Steve Gooden for Cincinnia City Council after
the top of the hour News and Robert Sprague, I'll

(01:02:24):
have a treasure running for Secretary of State. He'll be
on at seven thirty the mean time. Back to Dave Hatter, Dave,
let me ask you the initial question before we dive
on into Transunion's breach the credit companies. I have had
my credit frozen at least I think now for years
and years because of stuff like this, these breaches. So
my credit is frozen. Will it stay frozen until I

(01:02:45):
unfreeze it? Or is that something I have to go
back and refreeze from time to toime. I just want
to get that initial question out of the way.

Speaker 6 (01:02:52):
Well, that's the smart play, and that's going to be
one of my pieces of advice byan and everyone should
go freeze their credit. And then when I put the
the show notes out there from today, I'll add a
link to how the easy way to do that. And
it's not that easy, but as far as I know, Brian,
as far as I know, on all three credit bureaus,
once you freeze it, it will stay frozen until you

(01:03:14):
go in and unfreeze it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
Okay, that's what I thought.

Speaker 6 (01:03:17):
That that's my current understanding. Now keep in mind, you
have three different credit bureaus. Each one is a separate business.
You know, each one of them could change how this
works at any given time. But as far as I
know and I have, I have done the same thing
as you. I keep my credit locked until such time
as I would want to apply for a loan or something,
and then go in temporarily unlock it. On most of

(01:03:39):
these things, you can basically say I want to unlock
it for three days or something, and it'll go back again.
Though you have to figure this out for each one
of these things on your own, and it could change
at any time. The last time I did it, I
was able to do that. But the bottom line is
these three companies have an enormous amount of information about

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you because the nature of what they do right and
you know, if you think about it, your credit score,
especially if you were someone that isn't independently wealthy and
doesn't ever need a loan, is important for you. It's
also sometimes used, you know, as an evaluation of whether
you're going to be a good employer or whatever. So
I would encourage people to go check that occasionally, you know,

(01:04:21):
look at your credit work, get your free credit report
once a year, see what's on it, challenge those kind
of things. But the real meat of this is really twofold.
So Transcenion has reported a breach. Apparently four point four
million customers had information stolen. When you hear the term
breach in this context, basically your information has been stolen.
And I'm going to do a presentation later today I

(01:04:44):
do on cybersecurity. I do a lot of these things,
and I always ask in trying to make the point
everything is digital, everything is online. Why you should care
about this? Who in the crowd has not has not
gotten a letter telling them their their information has been breached?
And I tell you, Brian, it's been years and it's
sometimes hundreds of people where there hasn't been a single

(01:05:06):
hand go up. Everyone has had their data stolen, Everyone's
gotten this letter.

Speaker 10 (01:05:10):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:05:11):
So this is an interesting angle though, because again, if
you think about the information that could be accessed to
a credit bureau, it's practically everything about you. In this
particular case, what they're reporting so far is TransUnion itself
was not breached. This was an example of what I
would what's what's called in the business third party risk.

(01:05:32):
They're using a third party system to store data. In
this case, apparently Salesforce dot com. A lot of people
use that. It's a well known CRM, and apparently other
companies had their data recently stolen through Salesforce as well.
Now Salesforce, of course, is saying their platform has not
been compromised. This is, you know, probably a bad password,

(01:05:56):
no MFA kind of situation, kind of like the Snowflake
reach a few years ago, like where at and T
was a company amongst many they had data stolen. But
the bottom line here is TransUnion claims that they were
not breached. They claim that the very sensitive information wasn't stolen,
that they were essentially using this as a customer relationship

(01:06:17):
management tool, so phone numbers, things like that.

Speaker 10 (01:06:20):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:06:21):
Also in the same story, they say several companies have
already been caught in a wave of Salesforce linked attacks,
including Google, Farmers, Insurance, Alliance Life, Workday, Pandora, Cisco Channel
and others, or Chanel and others. Rather, so I'm trying
to make two points here. When you use third party platforms,
who does it?

Speaker 10 (01:06:40):
Now?

Speaker 6 (01:06:40):
Wright More and more companies are using the cloud quote
unquote third party platforms rather than having their own servers
and their own software installed on these things. You have
to make sure you're securing your accounts there so this
doesn't happen. But back to the meat of this story.
If you get a letter from TransUnion telling you your
data has been breached, could become any day now, you

(01:07:01):
should take that seriously. And I also want to point out, Brian,
when you see these kind of things, it is super
critical for folks go freeze your credit, keep an eye
on your accounts, be even more skeptical than usual. But
if you get an email or a text or a
phone call reporting to be from TransUnion, how would they
make a phone call to you the bad guys?

Speaker 9 (01:07:21):
Well, now they have all your information.

Speaker 6 (01:07:23):
You can get a call and email a text for
reporting to be TransUnion claiming to be reaching out to
you about this breach.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
Right, Well, I'd be skeptical about that call because TransUnion
has our information for literally hundreds of millions of people,
right I mean exactly, They're gonna call you. They picked
you out of everyone. Basically, My point is these.

Speaker 6 (01:07:45):
Are professional con artists. They have your information. They could
reach out to you via email, text, or phone call
claiming to be from TransUnion having interesting information that would
lead you to believe they are from TransUnion. Scammers will
scam using the breach and telling you because you have

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been breached, you need to do X, Y or Z.
So my bigger piece of advice other than to freeze
your credit and be skeptical, is if TransUnion quote unquote
reaches out to you in any form other than a
written letter, you should be extremely skeptical of that. Don't
click the links, don't talk to the person, don't call
the phone numbers they supply go to Transunions, Transunion's website,

(01:08:30):
or there's a number here you can check by calling
the TransUnion Fraud Victim Assistance Department at eight hundred and six'
eight oh seven to eight. Nine my point is assume
anything that you get other than a letter in the
mail is potentially. Fraudulent you go To TransUnion dot, com
you look up a number from their, website you initiate those.

(01:08:51):
Transactions if you have A TransUnion, account because you have
locked your credit and frozen your, credit you, know make
sure you have multi factor authentication turned, on make sure
you have a strong anque password on, that and you,
know sadly there's really nothing if you get the letter
and they offer the credit.

Speaker 9 (01:09:08):
Monitoring turn that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
On, Yeah i'm just going to ask. You it's a
good thing to have the credit. MONITORING i have, LifeLock
i have for, years AND i really don't pay much
attention to. It they do alert you if there's something
like The TransUnion, breach but fortunately for, me there's been
no other.

Speaker 6 (01:09:21):
Breaches so, yeah they alert, you and they have attorneys
and experts that can help you if you're a dint
stolen because a lot of people, say, well what can
what can.

Speaker 9 (01:09:29):
They do THAT i can't?

Speaker 6 (01:09:30):
Do, well they can monitor at, scale which you probably
can't even if you're a, discipline and they have experts
that will help you unwind this stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
And afford to pay the legal bills because you do
have a fairly sizable legal coverage protection with something like.
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Speaker 9 (01:09:56):
BRIAN i look forward to chatting with.

Speaker 10 (01:09:57):
You.

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Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
Now very Happy friday to, You Brian. Thomas happy to
welcome on the fifty Five Carsee Morning. Show you can
find him online at vote GOODGOD i n vote goodin
dot com and you should welcome Back Steve. Gooden it's
a pleasure to have you on as. Always, hey good, Morning.

Speaker 5 (01:10:34):
Brian thank you from.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
Law firm Reporter. Rides steve always helps us analyze legal
cases that affect local communities even. Nationally it's a brilliant
insight he always. Provides he's also previously on city. Council
we have a record we can attribute To Steve. GOODEN
i think he did a fantastic job and he was
there running for council. Again let us start with the
debate last. NIGHT i understand you at least caught some
of the debate Between pervoll And Corey. Bowman what's your

(01:10:57):
reaction and what do you?

Speaker 10 (01:10:59):
Think, well it's more of the same stuff from the.
Mayor you, know we you know are you? Know i've
been feeling it. TOO i mean they had a meeting
that about two weeks ago between the mayor and the
other council, candidates which leaked immediately where he told, them,
look you just have to call everyone who is AGAINST

(01:11:19):
Us republican Or Democrats, maga, maga, maga because apparently they've
done some polling that showed, one you, know that a
lot of the council candidates at least are in trouble are,
incumbents and number two that his numbers apparently aren't so.
Great so rather than deal with his, performance he wants
to make everything about national issues and deflect everything to

(01:11:41):
The trump, administration which is still pretty unpopular within the.
City and you could see that playbook absolutely and pretty
much everything he. Said rather than acknowledge at all the
fact that we have a massive spiking crime in our populous,
neighborhoods rather than even discuss the fact that we had

(01:12:04):
a shooting right outside Of Fountain square at five o'clock
on a, weekday the people are getting out of their
getting into their cars to go home from their, offices
where people were just absolutely. Horrified it was right by my,
office by the, way the two idiots getting into an
argument and both pulling guns and shooting each other there
On Vine. Street you, know that's rather than acknowledge any

(01:12:28):
of those, things all he wanted to do was, say
talk about the evils Of Donald trump and implying that
people are being kidnapped by ice throughout the city and fear.
Mongering so it was really disgusting AND i, think you,
Know bowman hit back against that the best he. Could
but the plan there was to absolutely gaslight the audience

(01:12:50):
and anyone who's watching this and make them think that
the city's perfectly fine but for the fact that we
have a terrible administration In, washington d. C and that
he's going to stand up and fired for. You so
it was more of the same garbage that we've been
seeing in the last few, weeks but also a real
sign that they feel like that their grip on City
hall is.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
Slipping well you see through. IT i, mean the idea
that The trump, administration what they're, doing has an impact
on the city Of, CINCINNATI i suppose to even suggest
that and make that argument is to believe that your
audience is filled with idiots who believe that there is some.
Connection that's, insulting but.

Speaker 10 (01:13:28):
Well it's extraordinarily insulting and from the people that we're
talking to out in the, community it's not. Working it's
not even. Working you, know with the lot of the
really Progressive democrats out in the city that we. ENCOUNTER i, mean,
look the only reason The Lord cincinnati may pass through
from slips is because of the fact that the crime

(01:13:49):
here has become so. BAD i, mean that's the. Issue
i'm not one of these people that thinks The National
guards should be deployed over street. CRIME i think that's
an absolute last, resort you, know and and and that
is you, know there's constitutional issues there as, well saying
that it's from a kind of constitutional conservative. Standpoint but
all that being, SAID i mean the issue is crime.

(01:14:12):
PERIOD i mean public. Safety that's we need more police.
Officers we're two hundred short of a compliment that was
set all the way back in two thousand and five
when we had a very very different. City we need
to we may need up to four hundred more police
officers if we're going to seriously police a city and
actually have beat, patrols he, said which we know are

(01:14:33):
the best way to combat. Crime, so, uh it's all
just other incomplete. Nonsense it is a complete, deflection and
it's what they've been doing all. SUMMER i, mean, look
it's it's you, know we had a terrible. Summer the
city is more violent than it has been a long.
Time it's a tougher place to, work and it's more,
divided and it's more divided one hundred percent because of

(01:14:54):
the mayor and the people he's got working for. HIM i, mean,
look you, KNOW i know we were going to talk
About Irish rollie as, well but he has a police
critic on his. STAFF i mean that works some reports
to the city manager into, him who is openly critical
of the. Police because of her, job she's supposed to
be some sort of a. Consultant BUT i mean this

(01:15:15):
results in a total demoralization of the police force that's already.
Understaffed we see the results every. Day this has nothing
to do With Donald.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
Trump clearly has nothing to do With Donald. Trump and
he tried to, deflect and we talked about this With
Christopher smiman earlier this. Morning deflect blame basically On John.
Cranley he's been mayor for four years, Now when is
he going to take credit and or take responsibility rather
for the issues that are plaguing in the city Of.
CINCINNATI i, mean that's kind Of that retreat was REALLY

(01:15:44):
i think childish or shallow and. Hollow he's got a
lot of time to improve the. SITUATION i, mean how
how many lane miles HAS aft had provol improved since
he's been. Mayor we're behind four hundred million dollars in. Infrastructure,
OH i, go, well you, KNOW i.

Speaker 10 (01:16:01):
Mean if we would get get into. That but we
now know that they have. Money this came out last
week AND i think The Business courier that they have
almost twenty million dollars that they could have spent on
on pothole repair that they just haven't bothered to get
around to.

Speaker 5 (01:16:19):
SPENDING i, mean it's it's.

Speaker 10 (01:16:21):
Really just incompetence upon incompetence down. There and look at.
Me you, KNOW i was at a debate On monday
night and out lookout what the council, group and of
course that that's you, know what they've been instructed to
say about. Us they, said we're cleaning up the mess
of the prior council Of John, cranley the prior. Council
but it's been you, know it's been four years and

(01:16:42):
actually the roads were getting paved four. YEARS i, mean you,
know we did say what you want About John. Cranley
but the, police the police department was better. Staffed it
wasn't fully, staffed but it was better. Staffed they got,
raises morale was. Good THE fop engaged with and ultimately
endorsed the. Mayor right, now they gave it no confidence
vote TO aft. Have, yeah but at the, time you,

(01:17:04):
Know cradley worked with them very, well and we had
a working majority on council that involved me And Christopher
smitherman And Liz keating and we all listened to the
police officers needs and tried to tried to take care
of what the neighborhood, wanted what they, want what the officers.
Need so we did exactly what we were supposed to

(01:17:25):
do at the best we could within the budget. Constraints,
Anyway so it's a totally different scene, here and it
is a absolutely, intentional uh and really disgusting and divisive.
Thing this group is, dowing not JUST aft to have
with the council, candidates to deflect On trump and on
now on to prior council members and. Mayors they've had

(01:17:47):
four years and they have absolutely wrecked the.

Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
City, well a QUESTION i Asked christopher earlier in the,
PROGRAM i want to gauge your. Reaction you, know he's
out and about you're going out and about you're doing town,
halls your door. KNOCKING i, mean you're familiar with what's going.
On what is the enthusiasm level right? Now considering the
city Of cincinnati is really low on turnout with, voters
what was, it ten? Percent fifteen percent of the folks showed,
up and those are usually going to, be from my,

(01:18:11):
perception filled with a lot of THOSE ngo, folks those
community activists that are getting cash contributions from from The
city Of. Cincinnati they're really good about going out and
helping those elected officials that help. Them in other, words you,
know one hand washes the. Other we know how politics.
Works but so is there enthusiasm among the Regular cincinnati

(01:18:33):
voters FOR aftab provoll or do you suspect that we're
going to have another low voter turnout considering the city
is pretty much one hundred percent. BLUE i know it's
not but Overwhelmingly.

Speaker 10 (01:18:44):
Democrat, well you, know we're almost a week into early,
voting AND i can tell you what the numbers, show
and they actually show both not just an lack of
enthusiasm FOR, aftab but timpathy FOR i HAVE. Tab but
we also see that it's going to be a pretty
low turnout election unless things change right. Away and from

(01:19:07):
the early vote in person and plus the mail and vote,
requests it looks like it's down about thirty percent Among,
democrats it's down a little less among non affiliated And.
Republicans it's only down about two percent Among. Republicans so
what it tells me is there's a lot of just
discussed among The democratic base about what's going on. There

(01:19:30):
they may not be moving to, bowmen but they're going
to vote with their feet and stay, home and that
opens up a lot of opportunity for other. Candidates and
it also means that the total number of votes that
you might need to win if you're someone say like
A charter right or A, republican that vote number is
going to go down because it's the best of nine

(01:19:50):
and with people staying. Home what we also do know
is that a lot of independent voters who still make
up the majority of the, city they tend to Vote,
democratic like not really truly affiliated with the party or activists.
There those folks have shown the least to drop. Off
so we know that that that big mass of independent,
voters which can be as much as forty percent in

(01:20:12):
the city. Election but they're still coming, out AND i
don't think they're coming out because they're happy WITH. Aftab
and also to your point about the, ACTIVISTS i think
that's the really kind of disgusting thing that's happened over
the last to several decades at City. HALL i, mean
we you, know famously got rid of patronage when we
passed our churner in the nineteen. Twenties but now we
have a new patronage where you, know the mayor and

(01:20:35):
the administration and so forth canned out a lot of
dollars in a lot of bogus contracts to nonprofit agencies
and agencies that are just created, to you, know really
to suck up the money that we know are involved
in election hearing come, elect you, know come every two.
Years so you, know that's a lot of the game

(01:20:56):
that The democrats and council have, played which is using
nonprofits who then turn around and help them in the.
Election and it's really disgusting and it's really outside the.
Charter and really these independent contractors and nonprofits kind of
fall outside of all the city and state ethics. Laws
they can do as they. Please and it's an open
secret here in. Town but this year it doesn't seem

(01:21:18):
to be taking because you cannot convince the average. PERSON
i don't care what neighborhood they're, in AND i don't
care what their race. Is what we're hearing across the
board is discussed with the situation where public safety discussed
about the. Crime everyone knows we don't have enough police,
officers and no matter how much they say that isn't the.

(01:21:39):
Case the lived experience of people in the neighborhood belies.
That AND i just don't think it's working this.

Speaker 1 (01:21:45):
Year that sounds like an opportunity for otherwise Like, Republicans,
independence maybe some of the Sane democrats maybe change the
tide in the city Of. Cincinnati your vote really truly
does matter. More With Steve, gooden we're going to find
out about This irish. Rolling a little bit of a
going on between you, Two. Steve we'll talk about that
in just a minute seven to. Seventeen right now fifty
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for the, city running as a charter, right and that's
a okay with, Me steve Good and pivoting over to

(01:22:26):
your latest row With Iris, rowley there was being intentionally.

Speaker 10 (01:22:31):
On that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
One so what is the? City obviously community active, issues
part of The Black Lives, matter AND i guess she's
a defund police. Type she's been interfering with police officers
trying to do their duty and deal with crime and
problems in Downtown. Cincinnati so we know about. Her what
do you how'd you get in a mix with her? Online,
well you, know, yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:22:52):
It's kind of. Crazy she she And Reverend David lynch
kind of unleashed their online followers on me this week
to the point where we where we where we actually
had to have the police check out some of the
MESSAGES i was getting from them that were threatening and just.
Bizarre you, know hundreds of people piling on at her

(01:23:14):
urging and what's really wild here is she is a
long time community, activist was deeply involved in The Collaborative
agreement back in the early two, thousands and back then
you actually did some work that that a lot of,
people including police, officers actually came around to see what was.
Positive but you, know as they always, say you, know
in these, stories you, know you start out as a,

(01:23:36):
hero but if you stayed in the stage too, long
you end up as the. Villain and that's kind of
where we are. Now she is a paid consultant to the,
administration reporting to the city manager and TO aftab to
help allegedly help with The Police Collaborative agreement and police community.
Relations but what's really happened is she has she makes

(01:23:56):
hundreds of thousands of dollars that she funnels in part
to her, son who is her sole employee of her small,
company and no one really knows exactly what they do all.

Speaker 5 (01:24:09):
Day there's no.

Speaker 10 (01:24:10):
Metrics and we do know that she is openly critical
to police and that there's at least one video that
an officer has of her interfering with someone trying to
cite someone for a. Misdemeanor so she's a, big big
flash point in police community relations both. Ways but her
real job is to go out there and whip up

(01:24:34):
support in the black church community for the. Mayor and
that's what she's doing. Now if she were an actual city,
employee she would have civil service rules imposed upon her
where she couldn't engage in electioneering and. Campaigning but there's
a loophole here for these paid, consultants so she makes
more than city, employees actually interferes with police, business and
then goes out in campaigns and tries to whip not

(01:24:56):
just whip up support for the, mayor but attack other.
Candidates had the temerity to call that out on a
couple of different radio programs and on A tv interview
into the improprieties around her, contract and she came at
me all. Weekend, Uh and you, know some of, it
some of it was kind of. Funny one guy keeps

(01:25:16):
referring to. Me one of her followers keeps referring to
me as, quote a mediocre, douchebag WHICH i THOUGHT i
was at least an extraordinary dude, bag and bring. Disappointed
we call a mediocre. One and most of it's just
the kind of stuff you shrug. Off but the organized
nature of. IT a paid city consultant is the part
of the part that should it should disturb, people, ye

(01:25:38):
which is AND i don't think it's very. Effective we're
not losing any, sleep AND i frankly didn't THINK i
was getting any votes From irish only, anyway And i'm
just fine with. That but my, POINT i guess my
point of view is it's yet one more gigantic ethical
lapse from this. Administration it's the kind of thing that's
going on in broad daylight that everyone should just be disgusted.

(01:25:58):
By she is getting the tax dollars for a contract
to do god knows what during the, day but we
know and see that the real purpose of it is
for her to go out there attack the mayor's opponents
and whip.

Speaker 5 (01:26:13):
Up, support you, know for his.

Speaker 10 (01:26:15):
Agenda and they're using tax dollars to do. It and
that's just.

Speaker 1 (01:26:18):
Wrong it is fundamentally. Wrong Steve gooden, again votegodin dot.
Com wish you all the, Best, steve AND i presume
you And i'll be talking before the. Election keep up
the great work And i'll look forward to talking with
you again real. Soon thanks for your time this, morning, Anytime.
Bran thank you all, Right take care, brother have a great.
Weekend on top of, That ohio Treasure Robert spragg run

(01:26:38):
For secretary Of. State he is going to be give
us the latest on here For secretary Of. State welcome
back to the fifty Five Krssey Morning, Show Robert. Sprague
it's the pleasure to have you on this.

Speaker 11 (01:26:45):
Morning Thanks, brian and with, you it's.

Speaker 1 (01:26:50):
Pleasure sprague For, ohio s P R a G U
e For, ohio the word for not the number For
ohio dot com where you can Find Robert spegg's. Website
i'm sure you'd appreciate. It cam pagn. Contribution let us
start off a treasure spread on your campaign For secretary Of.
State what's your motivation for running and how's the campaign
going so?

Speaker 5 (01:27:08):
Far?

Speaker 11 (01:27:10):
WELL i, Think, brian that the cost of our freedom
is eternal, vigilance and the threats are constantly. Evolving our
enemies certainly would love to be able to control our,
elections at the very least be able to influence. Them
and as your Next secretary Of, state IT i want
to make sure that our elections are secure AND i
also want to make sure that they're, fair AND i

(01:27:30):
have a plan to make sure that our elections are
both of those.

Speaker 1 (01:27:33):
Well what would you think as it currently, stands what
is wrong with the current process in what way will
you fix it when you are elected to Be secretary Of.

Speaker 11 (01:27:43):
State, Well i'll tell you we do a very good
job with elections in the state Of. Ohio but there
are a few things THAT i would make sure that
we are able to evolve and make sure that we
build upon the successes that we're already having and make
our election system even. More for one, THING i would
make sure that we have a front and citizenship check

(01:28:06):
to make sure that there are Only americans voting In ohio.
Elections you, know this idea of citizens being able to
vote in their, government having a social contract with their
government is so important to our constitutional. Republic and as
a matter of, fact our Current secretary Of, State Frank,
LeRose who's done a very good, job he led the

(01:28:28):
effort in twenty twenty two to make sure that Our
constitution was amended to say that Only american citizens can
vote In ohio elections in a passed with seventy seven
percent of the. Vote so that's the first THING i
would do Is i'd move to a front end citizenship.
Check and we can do that if we work with

(01:28:48):
the federal government and The trump administration make sure that
we have access to those.

Speaker 5 (01:28:52):
Databases and that's so.

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
FINE i saw this recent, article AND i don't know
If ohio Uses dominion voting. SYSTEMS a lot of red
flags way about this big. COMPANY i guess more than
twenty states Used. Dominion it just got bought out by
A missouri tech, entrepreneur Former republican director Of Saint Louis
City board Of, elections a guy Named Scott, liendecker and
he announced this the other. Day as of, Today dominion is.

(01:29:15):
Gone Liberty vote assumes full ownership and operational. Control he's
a pro paper ballot kind of. Guy so does that
transfer Of dominion ownership mean anything To? Ohio do we Use?
Dominion and this suggests made me a movement in the right.
DIRECTION a lot of people are still hankering to get
their paper ballots back because they have no faith in basically.
Electronics AND i understand.

Speaker 11 (01:29:36):
THAT i do, too AND i think that no matter
who owns the voting, machines at the end of the,
day you've got to be careful that they're not. Compromised
and so that's why the second THING i would do
as your Next secretary Of, STATUS i would make sure
that we move to all paper ballots in every county
in every election that we have in the state Of.

(01:29:56):
Ohio AND i used to work At ernst And young
WHEN i Grant soon WHEN i first graduated from. College
and what they will tell you is that the paper
ballot gives you a beautiful audit. Trail you can always
go back and you can count the. Paper and as
a matter of, fact that's the requirement of The Ohio,
constitution is that we vote by, ballot which is a

(01:30:18):
secret piece of, paper and being able to check on
the paper and tabulate the paper gives you a check
on the. Machines the paper is never. Wrong and SO
i want to move to all paper ballots in the
state Of. Ohio sixty percent of the counties are already.
There that's the way they. Vote you have a separate
piece of, paper you can see who you voted, for

(01:30:40):
and then you submit it in the ballot box and
then it's. Tabulated it's the best way for us to
vote in the state Of.

Speaker 1 (01:30:46):
Ohio scored some points in my listening audience for that, One,
sir appreciate that got to have a paper trail all,
right pivoting over in your role as At, treasure what
is The Buckeye Loan? PROGRAM i saw this just announce
that you just launched.

Speaker 11 (01:30:58):
This this is a fabulous new. Program we want to
bring production back to the state Of. Ohio we want
to bring jobs back to the state Of. Ohio manufacturing
has always been the backbone of our, state and so
we're starting there with our brand New Buckeye Business. Advantage
if you're a listener right now and you happen to
have a small company under one hundred and fifty, employees

(01:31:22):
you will qualify if you want to expand your balance,
sheet if you can take out with the financial, institution
your local financial, institution you can take out up to
a million dollar loan to expand your. Business it could
be working. Capital this is flexible. Capital it could be
it could be you expanding your, plant it could be

(01:31:43):
putting in that new product. Line and we will reduce
the interest rate on that million dollar loan by up
to three percent for up to two years for. You
and that's the big deal because, look all the federal
news is about the lowering of interest. Rates, Correct, yeah
and here we are lowering interest rates with the state

(01:32:05):
twenty five billion dollar balance sheet by three hundred basis
points three, percent front running The. Fed THE fed just
lowered by zero point two five percent or twenty five basis.
Points so this is a way that we can put
our balance sheet to. Work, well the first thing we're
doing is we're focusing on manufacturing because that's our bread

(01:32:25):
and butter as a. State october is manufacturing. Month and
then we anticipate coming out with some other focuses on small.
Businesses but this is a great thing to help our
state bring back, jobs bring back, production bring back and know.
How AND i think that this is going to be
a big help to a lot of these small.

Speaker 1 (01:32:44):
Businesses, well and you're still getting points on the loan.
Too it's not like you're giving it away for. Free
they have to pay. Back it's just a lesser loan
rate THAT i, mean that's a that's a great incentive
for folks to go out and borrow the money because
million dollars borrowed at what current bank, rates that's a
sizeable difference over a three point.

Speaker 11 (01:33:01):
Drop, yeah three point drop was actually real money for
a lot of these small, businesses and it could be
the difference between them being able to expand or not.
Right AND i love what you, Said, brian because it's
not as if we're stepping in as the government and
giving a. Grant it's actually the private market capitalism at.
Work you've got to get the loan from a private.

(01:33:23):
Institution but we'll do our parts in the back office
plumbing of lowering the interest.

Speaker 1 (01:33:28):
RATE i think that's an important. Component that you're still
working with a bank who does due diligence and evaluates
the nature of your business and your credit. Worthiness so
the bank is actually doing the laboring or of work
for the. State the states is backing it up with
its own financial. RESOURCES i think this sounds like an excellent, idea.

Speaker 11 (01:33:47):
And there's no risk at The treasure's. OFFICE i, mean,
ultimately the bank or the financial institution has to underwrite THAT,
novem in other, words back it up with their own,
money so there's no risk to. Us so this is
a win win for, everybody and we hope that it'll
help small businesses expand and help our state grow.

Speaker 1 (01:34:04):
Economically all, RIGHT i will acknowledge my ignorance on the entire.
TOPIC i regularly refer to cryptocurrency as like the peace Of,
god it passes all human, understanding while at least, acknowledge
it Passes Brian thomas's. Understanding, listen MY mensa membership is
worthless when it comes to stuff like. This it doesn't mean,
anything and it never. Has but what's the story on
the state Of ohio accepting crypto in connection with certain. Transactions,

(01:34:30):
well i'll tell you.

Speaker 11 (01:34:30):
What we decided that The Treasure's, office we could either
follow everybody, else all these other states that are being
able to accept cryptocurrency as, payment or we could. Lead
and there are a few states out there that are
doing it. Already but we have decided that if we,
lead we get to determine the, process we get to
make it, secure and so we've decided that we are

(01:34:53):
going to launch a brand new crypto payment. Platform the
future is this digital. Currency everybody's going to want to
pay with their phone With, apple pay With, PayPal with stable,
coin with, bitcoin with, ethereum and pretty, SOON i think
what you're going to see is it's not just people
that are going to want to pay with these digital.

(01:35:14):
Currencies it is also corporations because it is instantaneous and
in many ways it's cheaper and it's more. Secure so
there are some valuable reasons to do. It we're going
to do it the right. Way we are going to
develop a cryptocurrency payment platform for the entire. State that,

(01:35:34):
way you can pay in cryptocurrency if you, will if
you want, to and we are immediately it's going to
happen actually outside The treasure's, office but we are going
to immediately make sure that it's transferred and transformed INTO us,
dollars and so we will only HOLD us. Dollars we

(01:35:54):
will not be holding, cryptocurrency but it will facilitate the.
Payment and by the, way the state is not paying
that user. Fee the user is paying a user fee
to be able to use that new. Product we think
that we are going to have the best and the
safest product in The United states Of. America we just
went through THE rfp process and The board Of deposit

(01:36:16):
approved it, unanimously and we're looking forward to getting that
up and.

Speaker 1 (01:36:20):
Running and, BRIEFLY i don't want to hold you up
BECAUSE i know we only have you this one. Segment
Sir robert spa treasurer or running for a secretary of,
state how do, you, again going back to my ignorance
on the, topic how do you deal with the volatility at.
CRYPTO i, mean one day bitcoin's trading for twenty thousand,
dollars the next thing is trading for thirty thousand, dollars
and it's back to. FIFTEEN i Know i'm overstating the
volatility of, it and trust, ME i have no faith

(01:36:41):
in the fiat. Currency but The american dollar does not
struggle with that level of volatility on a day to day.
BASIS i guess if i got one hundred dollars bill
And i'm paying with, crypto crypto is worth x amount
one day and maybe less than next, tomorrow how does
that translate into something that you can use or real Briefly, roberts.

Speaker 11 (01:37:02):
That's a great, Question, brian and just real Briefly. Bitcoin
because there's a limited amount of, it which is what
makes it, valuable it goes up and, down huge volatility every.
Day you could pay in, bitcoin and the, transaction obviously,
digitally is almost, instantaneous and SO i guess that's how
you deal with the. Volatility but there's also stable, coin

(01:37:25):
and stable coin is a digital, coin but it's basically
a money market. Account it's a share in a money market,
account and so it's backed up for every stable, coin
it's backed up by A United states dollar and then
that dollar is in the money market. Account it's invested
In United States treasury short term, treasury so it basically

(01:37:46):
operates just like a money market. Account and those stable
coins are pegged one to one to The United states.
Dollar so you can see now the difference between the
bitcoin and the stable, coin and you can see where
corporations with you, know maybe one of transact more and
more transactions in the stable coin type of a digital,
currency which will be, instantaneous. Safer and the other advantage

(01:38:12):
from like the treasure's office standpoint that people don't think.
About when you write a check to The treasure's, office
it does not cost you, anything but it costs the
treasure in the state Of ohio a lot because those
checks are pieces of paper and it cost us actually
a great deal to process all that.

Speaker 1 (01:38:28):
Paper Understand so there definitely.

Speaker 11 (01:38:30):
Are advantages of moving into digital currency, direction but we
have to be very. Careful we're being, cautious we're being.

Speaker 1 (01:38:36):
PRODED i appreciate the prudence and the caution if we
enter into the great. Unknown robert spraggu he's running For
secretary Of state he's currently our treasure help him out
on his. Campaign sprague For ohio Dot. Com Roberts, BRAGG
i appreciate your willingness to come on The Morning show
over the, years AND i wish you the best in the,
future AND i look forward to having you Ash House
secretary Of state and further conversations down the, road. Sir

(01:38:59):
it's conversing editor in CHIEF Jahih Press, Network Jack windsor
returns talk about the, wines what he refers to his
war on, hemp And i'm kind of puzzled over that.
ONE i know he came out with some pronouncements regarding
hemp products the other. Day we'll see if that transcends
the law on the state of the, land which, is you,
know we're allowed to apparently grow hemp at zero point
three PERCENT thchc and. Lower, anyway cites his property tax.

(01:39:21):
Plan what's in? It what does it mean and what
did they come up? With so we'll get that explanation
From jack after the top of the. Hour then at
the bottom of the Ur Corey bowman on the debate last.
Night he'll join us at a. Thirty thank You Joe
streker for making me crack up every TIME i look
at the, rundown because he didn't Put Corey bowman. Down
he Put Jade vance's half brother. Down because that seems
to be the way the Enquire another local media tends

(01:39:42):
to refer to him as he has a, name it
Is Corey. Bowman let's see What bobby's got this. Morning,
Bobby welcome to The Morning. Show Happy, friday my.

Speaker 2 (01:39:52):
BROTHER i like to make a comment about the debate
IF i can absolutely all some. WELL i saw some
people THAT i. RECOGNIZE i was in the audience and,
stuff and they're the new cast members of the sitcom
that there will be producing In. CINCINNATI i don't know
if it's out yet or, not but it's Called The.

Speaker 1 (01:40:09):
Grifters you talk about the members of the non governmental
organization of those who are influenced by very various paid
for non governmental organizations Using city Of cincinna taxpayer dollars
for political. Purposes is that what you're referring?

Speaker 11 (01:40:23):
To, hello.

Speaker 2 (01:40:27):
And the next one we got we went ahead to
sit a shooting handicap For polkopolis at five and a
half for the. Weekend is that what it?

Speaker 1 (01:40:34):
Is, okay, well be a. Shooting i'll be thinking of you, Today,
bobby going to head out to the range with my
daughter and her fiance and squeeze off some handgun and
long gun rounds at my private. Range AND i know
you're a fan because you always say, faith, family flag and.
Firearms so your ears are burning Today bobby and me
have mentioned you on the.

Speaker 2 (01:40:54):
Range it's, uh it's glock day also.

Speaker 1 (01:40:58):
Tomorrow my remark three glock days. Tomorrow thank you for
the extra spot for my friends at twenty three, Three,
bobby have a wonderful, weekend, man keep the flag. Flying.
Yeah on the, DEBATE i got to mention this real
quick here because the huge problem that popped up After Hyde.
Park you, know we all know the backstory on that
they have the connected communities. Thing it applies to all.

(01:41:20):
Neighborhoods you have no say as a local, neighborhood one
of the fifty two within the city Of. Cincinnati sucks
to be. You you aren't allowed to control your own.
Destiny that's the bottom line and the point on That
Hyde park, said hell, no they got a petition to
go on the ballot to repeal that mandate regarding the
well connected developers and the various projects they were doing
in spite of the desires Of Hyde park. Residents, WELL
i have to have purple kind of addressing this, yesterday

(01:41:42):
he claims we're in a housing, crisis and solving the
crisis required construction of affordable. Housing got a market force
problem with that atab sorry, said Since i's previous zoning
laws were hindering, progress so what do they? Do they
slapped a one size fits all connected communities proposal on every,
neighborhood and he said that they sometimes need to disagree

(01:42:05):
with residents in one part of the town in order
to help the needs of the residents in the entire.
City quote tell me if you don't hear little marks
in this from each according's ability to each accurting to his. Need,
quote we are going to do the, hard sometimes unpopular
work of building housing Across cincinnati because pole after pole
will show you we need, housing and we need, more

(01:42:28):
specifically affordable, housing suggesting that the city cannot become a
city for solely wealthy. People, now is that a marketing
strategy to bring people in the city Of? Cincinnati in other, words,
hey you are always going to be subject to the
whim of Cincinna City. Council it's unpopular. Work we're doing
that unpopular work is going to land or potentially could

(01:42:51):
land in your. Neighborhood, so as you're selecting a neighborhood
that fits your, needs your, style your measure of, affordability
you might Like Hyde. Park you might look at the
square and, say, man this is a gorgeous. Neighborhood it's
basically a walking. Community look at all the lovely, homes
look at the, cars look at the, shops look at the.
STORES i like it. Here but the looming thread is

(01:43:11):
that your neighborhood may be, disrupted disrupted in the form
of a mandated affordable housing. Complex going in there and
ask yourself this, question how do you calculate? Affordability you
old real estate, mantra, location, location, Location AND i would
argue that the new housing that was originally proposed In Hyde,
park if you let market forces apply and you don't
institute sort of rent, control if you want to live

(01:43:34):
In Hyde, park it's going to cost you. More let's
say you have a seven hundred square foot apartment apartment.
Complex you know you're, OKAY i got my rent on
seven hundred square. FEET i guarantee you as sure As
i'm sitting. Here rent on seven hundred square feet In
Hyde park is going to be a hell of a
lot less than rent in let's just pick one, Randomly
avondale or even on the west, Side West, End Corey

(01:43:57):
bauman's down. There how much rent would you get for
a seven hundred square foot apartment in The West end
Versus Hyde. Park so you can't just say we are
going to build affordable housing unless you dictate what exactly
affordable is and you limit market forces from actually. Applying
you can see how this works. Out i'd be scared

(01:44:17):
as hell about, that AND i don't think that's a
good look for The city Of. Cincinnati in other, words
you in any given neighborhood can't control your own. Destiny
your property values may very well be impacted by something
the city. MANDATES i don't like that at, all AND
i feel very sorry for some of my residents in

(01:44:39):
The city Of cincinnati because that's already happened to. Them
how much is your house work worth over and, say,
OH i don't, know price hill now versus maybe fifteen years,
ago six right? Now if you have kercity talk, Station
Jack windsor from The High Press network on that war
on hemp and we'll figure out around the. COUNTRY i
need to know the weather in, traffic don't know FI

(01:45:01):
r talkstation appropriately time bumper music From executi Producer Joe.
Strecker to deal with the first, topic we're going to get.
Too If Jack windsor returns to these editor in chief
of The Ihio Press, network which you can find, online
AND i encourage you to do so The ohio pressnetwork

(01:45:22):
dot com front page right. There Governor Ohio governor suspends
sales intoxicating hemp. Products Jack, windsor it's great having you
on the fifty FIVE Krc Morning. Show, Sir welcome On Happy. Friday.

Speaker 12 (01:45:33):
Brian it's always an honor to be here with you
and the karc family And, joe thanks for setting it.
Up always appreciate being.

Speaker 1 (01:45:40):
Here thank, you AND i love having you on because
you'll be able to explain a couple of things to.
Me most, notably we're going to get to. THIS i you,
Know I'm i'm confused as hell about The ohio property tax.
Situation let's table that just for a. MOMENT i THINK
i UNDERSTAND hemp a little bit. Better that's not a revealing,
statement but we have hemp is legal to. Grow i've

(01:46:01):
HAD i, Mean Thomas massey worked on this. Forever hemp
has what point three or less of the INTOXICATING, thc
which is the big thing that's going to get your.
Stone so hemp has got a million different industrial. Uses
you can make clothes out of, it you can make
ballpoint pens out of, it you can make wood out of,
it on and on and. On an amazing multipurpose. Use

(01:46:22):
minder staying it's easy to, grow it's it grows. Quickly
so this has got all kinds of positives built into.
It BUT i draw a, parallel and, You Jack, windsor
can tell me If i'm. WRONG i guess industrial hemp's
kind of like the poppy. Plant you can get opium
out of, poppy but that's not good. Enough you need something,
stronger so you make morphine out of the, opium and

(01:46:43):
then you make heroin out of the. Morphine so you
keep concentrating it and refining it to the point where
it gets well dangerous zero point three PERCENT, THHC i,
guess can be concentrated down to an intoxicating level OF.
Thc IF i got the lay of the land on that, Right,
JACK i think.

Speaker 12 (01:46:59):
You do you have the lay of the land on
that and one of the, issues and Then i'll stop
because you may want to direct me into a different.
Direction so, one it can be hyper concentrated and extremely.
Intoxicating that's number. One but number, TWO i think the
geist under Which DeWine has proposed This Executive order twenty

(01:47:21):
twenty five FIVE. D he's calling it an adulterated consumer
product emergency is that these products are maybe not labeled
accurately and they are sold without. Verification so the issue
That DeWine talks about is a kid can go to
a corner, store ce, store convenience, store gas station and, say,

(01:47:43):
HEY i want some of those things that look like
gushers or those things that look like cabbage patch kids
or those things that you know looks look like, whatever
and buy, them go to, school take, them get. High
and if you saw the press conference he had On,
wednesday was really what the lab coat beside him said
from The Poison Control center was that there has been

(01:48:04):
a drastic increase in the number of calls and poison
cases for nineteen year olds in, below some of those
resulting in. Hospitalization so there is there are a couple
of issues, here and we can kind of tease, those
tease those, out But i'll just stop.

Speaker 1 (01:48:21):
There, no that's an excellent it's a, great great explanation
of what's going on. Here so it sounds to me
like something that's in need of labeling laws or you,
know there needs to be, warnings maybe an age cut
off like there is for, alcohol like there is for
purchasing legalized. Marijuana you can't just walk into a store
and buy weed at a marijuana, shop got to show
them YOUR id to get, in blah blah. Blah so

(01:48:42):
you can go to the like a convenience store and
buy these concentrates in the form of hemp without any
other protocols in. Place that that sounds like something to
be need. Fixing so do you have any criticism with
the way in which he went about? It this sounds
like it requires legislative.

Speaker 12 (01:48:59):
Action oh, YEAH i spent my entire radio show yesterday
Dragging mike to wine BECAUSE i want to remind listeners
And i'm, sorry not. Sorry this is a guy who
vetoed The Say act that would have kept kids from
taking chemical castration drugs and cutting off healthy body. Parts
this is a guy who used tax dollars to incent

(01:49:20):
experimental jabs for, kids which we now know calls my o,
carditis and we knew back, then but he ignored those.
Warnings so Whenever Mike DeWine strolls out with a lab
coat beside him to pretend like he cares for, kids
my initial thought is how MUCH bs AM i going
to have to wade through here to get the. Truth
so that's one, Issue but the second issue is are
we using a wrecking ball where we could use a?

(01:49:42):
Scalpel AND i like, Bourbon i'm not afraid to say,
that and so WHEN i look at INTOXICATING, HEMP i,
go why don't we treat it like? Bourbon and WHAT
i mean by that is if you go to any gas,
station you can get, beer you can get, wine and
you can get those little. Fireballs now they're water.

Speaker 1 (01:50:02):
Down bourbon or water down. Liquor, basically if it's under
WHAT abv or something like, that.

Speaker 12 (01:50:09):
Yes if it's under a certain, percentage you can get.
It and if you want the good, stuff as bourbon
drinkers like me would tell, you you go to AN
ohlq site In kroger or In Giant. Eagle so why
can't we do the same, thing and people, go, well you,
know do you know how hard it is to let
people know that they need to? Card AND i, go, well,

(01:50:30):
no that seems like a strong man, argument because if
he's going to outlaw intoxicating him by the, fourteenth guess
what he's going to communicate WITH cea, stores gas stations
and other purveyors of these. Products why can't you then
say in that, communication we're going to require you to,
card and then you can start this process of making
sure the labels are, accurate making sure that we create
rules through legislation around how much concentrated hemp you can.

(01:50:55):
Sell but why can't we treat it like? Alcohol my big,
Beef by the, WAY i have some friends in the
alcohol distribution. BUSINESS i don't understand why an alcohol distribution
business who sells hemp beverages is now required to take
all of that off their shelves when, frankly those are
the ones that are probably labeled accurately and sold to adult.

(01:51:16):
Consumers so, again this feels to me like a wrecking,
ball whereas scalpel is. NEEDED i hope that makes.

Speaker 1 (01:51:21):
Sense it, does And i'm not disagreeing with you. Fundamentally
now are there quality controls in connection with the so
called intoxicating hemp Products because you go to a marijuana,
store it's got all kinds of quality. Controls it has
to tay exact concentrations when it was, inspected it was
expected by a third party outside. Inspector so you get
some level of comfort what you're smoking or taking whatever

(01:51:44):
isn't laden with all kinds of chemicals or mites or.
That now with the concentrated hemp, industry are they subject
to those quality?

Speaker 12 (01:51:52):
Controls you know they are, not and they should. Be
AND i think that is the crux of the issue
is how do we get our arms around the, packaging
what's inside the package and making sure that it's, compliant
that it's, accurate that it's. Safe and so that is
certainly a steer that we have to wrestle with. HERE i,

(01:52:13):
mean if you look at the story we have on
the iiO press, network we have, them we have pictures
There gushers and then you have some other smaller branded.
Gushers that is. Confusing and by the, way that's probably
an intellectual property. ISSUE i, mean that's a lawsuit waiting to.
HAPPEN i can't believe somebody has sued those. Distributors, Right, so,

(01:52:33):
yes those are issues THAT i think we have to wrestle.
With but, AGAIN i think we do it. Legislatively but
here's the other ISSUE i want to bring, Up, brian
BECAUSE i THINK i think it needs to be. DISCUSSED
i have a fundamental. Issue if we're going to do
this the same way that we did, casinos we created a.
Cartel we created a government. Monopoly and if you're telling
me that in order to sell, hemp you have to

(01:52:54):
now do it through the handful of dispensaries that our government,
APPROVED i think that creates an other government created, monopoly
AND i think that stifles. Competition And i'm not for
that makes.

Speaker 1 (01:53:04):
Sense it, does and we outright rejected that cartel. Situation
the voters Of, ohio the ones that approved legalization in,
marijuana ultimately said hell no to these hands selected what
we always referred to as cartel. MEMBERS i remember talking
to the people who were behind the, effort and when
you look behind the, Scenes, GEE i wonder how somebody
was hand. Selected, oh it's because You're John bayner and

(01:53:25):
you're part of one of the collectives that is pushing
for one of these, licenses so and it was supposed
to go into The constitution at the time as. Well
oh my, god what a train wreck that. Was so
nobody out there in The ohio population wants to go
down that. Road Jack, ones, RIGHT i agree with. You,
now is there something in connection with the chemical nature
of this intoxicating? Himp BECAUSE i know law enforcements always

(01:53:47):
struggling and legislators elect officials always struggling with they come
out with a designer drug which is not on anybody's
field of. Vision it doesn't. Exist it comes up one,
day it gets people whacked out of their, mind but
it's not. Scheduled they have to pass a loss scheduling
that new. Compound is there some component of that involved
with the type OF thhc that's coming out of these.

Speaker 12 (01:54:07):
CONCENTRATES i think that's exactly what's going to happen this executive.
ORDER i believe it has empowered The High department Of
agriculture to determine what is intoxicating hemp and what is legal. Hemp,
essentially because intoxicating hemp will then be forbidden at least
for ninety, days unless the legislature says after thirty, days,

(01:54:27):
no we're going to handle. This there's no more emergency.
Order SO i think what they're going to have to
wrestle with is exactly what you're talking, about what is
the concentration. Level and we're going to have to get
that stuff though over the finish line in, bills not executive,
orders and SO i think that's where this will shake.
Out the challenge that we're going to run into is

(01:54:48):
the governor's intoxicating hemp ban has already drawn a. Lawsuit
The Ohio Healthy Alternatives association Said thursday it's suing to
block the executive. Action so this will likely get tied
up in. Court so potentially that executive order might you,
know a judge might issue a stay while this plays
out in. Court, yeah and so we're gonna have time
to figure all that.

Speaker 10 (01:55:08):
Out.

Speaker 1 (01:55:08):
Well if they issue an, injunction that is a suggestive
of likelihood of success on the, merits meaning those who
are seeking to stop this executive. Order if they get an,
injunction then the court has already determined that maybe something was.
Wrong he didn't have the authority to do, it he
overstepped his. Boundary this is something that belongs to the legislative.
Branch so popcorn's out on that. One Jack winsor will
see what happens points well taken this, Morning i'll tell you.

(01:55:31):
What we'll pause, now we'll bring you. Back see if
you can unpackage property tax in the state Of. Ohio,
Yes Bill Sitz's Property Tax Working group has issued their
recommendations war With Jack windsor after these brief words stick.

Speaker 3 (01:55:43):
Around fifty FIVE. Krc it's eighteen on A.

Speaker 1 (01:55:48):
Friday Happy friday to. You bottom of the. Hour we're
gonna hear From Corey bowman aka Jd vance's half. Brother
thank You joe on the rundown. Anytime jack wins is
on the. Front he's a editor in chief of The
Ohio Press. Network final online ad of, course The Ohio
Press network dot. Com real quick comment on the last, Topic,
jack question from one of my listeners on an instant, Message,

(01:56:10):
Well governor to, wine build a build a wall to
block the borders From ohio To kentucky and Maybe indiana
in order to keep intoxicating hemp products. OUT i guess
the next question on that Real, Briefly Jack, windsor this
doesn't stop people from ordering it online and having it
delivered to their front, door does?

Speaker 12 (01:56:26):
It, well that's a great, question and that's a question
THAT i didn't have an answer to, yesterday And i'm
still trying to. Discern the initial answer was, no they
can still do the mail order, thing BUT i was
warned yesterday that that might be a sticky. Area so
if that's what you're, DOING i don't want to give
any legal. Advice and, frankly, AGAIN i think that there's

(01:56:47):
probably going to be an injunction issued BECAUSE hemp is,
legal and there are not laws essentially being, broken and
so you have an executive order to me that does
not have a law to backstop. It SO i think
we're kind of in murky water. HERE i think the
best the wine is going to get is a, pause
and we're gonna probably have to get the lawmakers, involved
AND i think they're frankly between you and me as

(01:57:09):
we toggle to this next, TOPIC i think lawmakers are
collectively rolling their eyes like there goes the governor, again you,
know trying to trying to play congressional representative or state
lawmaker instead of playing. Governor AND i think they're about
to take the reins on, this.

Speaker 1 (01:57:22):
Right he'll get smacked by the courts and then the,
lawmakers recognizing the obvious need for some fixes and some
holes in the bucket being, plugged should act very. Quickly
this seems like a no, Brainer, jack all, right what
isn't a Nor Property Tax Working group and the. Recommendations
we've got a serious problem in the state Of, ohio
so much so there's a baut initiative to eliminate all

(01:57:42):
property taxes at constitutional. Amendment AND i know that's got
a lot of people quicking in their, boots AND i
sort of smile over the concept BECAUSE i love the
idea of not having property, taxes but The charlie foxtrot
reality of having no property taxes up ends the whole
financing structure for parks and police and fire and local

(01:58:03):
issues and school. Boards and are we gonna Let columbus
decide where the money goes and are they going to
collect some extra sales tax? Whatever but, that of course
has resulted in The Property Tax Working group on the
heels of the veto of three provisions that would have
provided some measure of relief for O high as it
was in the. Budget dwaine promised that none of The
Property Tech Working group is going to give us some

(01:58:24):
great ideas and here they. Are is there anything in
This Property Tax Working group that you can explain to my,
listeners because AS i read, it my eyes gloss over
jacket really is painful to.

Speaker 10 (01:58:34):
Read let me.

Speaker 12 (01:58:36):
Take two tracks. Here the first one is to shed
light on how serious this. IS i, believe based on
my conversations with, Lawmakers, brian that lawmakers Take Governor Dowin's
Property Tax Reform Working, group stacked with lobbyists who have
vested interest in maintaining the status, quo about as seriously
as guys like you and me would take a toddler's

(01:58:56):
crayon scribbled business plan for running a lemonade stand. IN i,
mean it's, king but at the end of the, day
we're looking at a toddler's. Work that's totally HOW i
feel that lawmakers are looking at, this and you're, right real,
quick just a, Reminder Originally County Budget commission authority would
have been increased in the, budget cash balance carryovers for

(01:59:19):
schools would have been, restricted a revamp at the twenty
mili floor calculation would have been in, play and school
district leve levees would have been restricted because it would
have take away misnomers like emergency and replacement. Levees dwine
didn't like. Those but here's at the end of the, Day,
no when you talk about, one lawmakers are not taking this.

(01:59:42):
Seriously so regardless of what they did or didn't, do
DON'T i don't think it's going to, make you, know
a bit of.

Speaker 1 (01:59:48):
Difference but.

Speaker 12 (01:59:50):
It was a symbolic. GESTURE i, mean there was some
focus on short term, fixes like they would move the
carryover balance that schools could carry over to one hundred
percent instead of forty. Percent they would create this five
year glide path for, levies which essentially, says look their,
grandfathers you can't cut them. Right and there was a

(02:00:12):
lot of support for existing pieces of, legislation and so to,
me it shied away from radical, overhauls prioritizing what they
would call fairness and transparency over deep. Cuts and at
the end of the, Day, BRIAN i think you hit
it nail on the. Head at the, beginning this feels
like we're rearranging deck furniture on The titanic because property

(02:00:33):
taxes might be a sinking ship in the state Of.
Ohio citizens said all, right lawmakers, Listened they put it
in the. Budget dwind, vetoed and now they did the
right and they came up with this twenty point plan
that doesn't seem to make a damn bit of difference
for the average. TAXPAYER i think what this has done
is it has increased interest in totally slashing property, taxes making,

(02:00:55):
them you, know. Unconstitutional that's WHERE i think we're.

Speaker 1 (02:00:58):
At how let me just test the, Waters Jack, windsor
how does that play out in? Reality going back to my,
point you take away the local property tax, issues you
take away the local levy issues because there's no more property.
Tax how does how do you sort of deal with the? Aftermath?

Speaker 12 (02:01:17):
Jack, yeah no fair, Question And i'm really glad that
you're holding my feet to the fire on. This the
Example i'll give you that's cheeky is if you ever
taken a drug of choice away from an, addict an
addict will always find a way to get their drug of,
choice you, know all things being. Equal, well you're trying
to take money away from people addicted to power and.
Money eventually they're going to figure out a way to

(02:01:38):
get their. Money and SO i think the real question
is has it been done? Before and the answer is,
yes places Like Wyoming, Tennessee, Nevada, Florida, washington they have
a state income tax of. Zero now In ohio we
have a two point seventy five percent flat. TAX i
think we're headed to zero, there but right now it's
two point seventy five. Percent those other states THAT i just,
named they have zero point six percent point sixty six

(02:02:00):
point six to eight point eight nine point ninety, two almost,
zero but not zero property. Tax and so, ultimately if
we have two point seventy five percent income, tax that
buoy's some of that. Money it's just we're going to
have to change The Ohio Revised code and rules and
The High Administrative code on how money flows through to those,
entities particularly, schools fire, departments and police. Departments but, overall

(02:02:22):
when you look at this these other, states you, know
no income, tax low property.

Speaker 10 (02:02:28):
Tax what do they?

Speaker 12 (02:02:28):
Do then they rely on sales tax seven to ten,
percent or excise taxes or business. Taxes so there are
other revenue, streams and what we will simply see is
an increase in those taxes and in those. Assessments But
i'm going to go back to if you ever take
a drug of choice away from an, addict they always
find their drug of. CHOICE i don't think we're going

(02:02:49):
to have an issue with The General assembly or other
people in power finding a way to get the money
that they. Want we're just going to have. To we
all like, change, Right it's the transition that. Sucks it's the.
Transition it's going to be tough because we're going to
have to go from relying on property taxes to fund
these things to relying on other revenue. Streams but, ULTIMATELY
i think that's what's going to.

Speaker 1 (02:03:08):
Happen, well they're gonna have to get ahead of the
curve on this property tax issue where they look at
the work property tax working group, stuff or some go
down some other path because they're going to have a
lot of work to do in electric. Capacity if we
repeal the property tax In, ohio they're gonna have to
do a lot of work to. Do, yeah all, right
for Sid Jack, windsor you can find him again at

(02:03:28):
The Ohio Press network and we'll look for you. Online Jack,
winsor appreciate what you.

Speaker 12 (02:03:32):
Do.

Speaker 1 (02:03:33):
Man you're always welcome here on the fifty Five Krssey.
Morning you should have a great, weekend Brother, brian you,
too thank. You, Decation Happy, Friday early voting is going
on right. Now you apparently have twenty eight days and
you can see the countdown At coreybowman dot. Com it's
right there on the front page of his. Website twenty five,
days eleven, hours fifty nine minutes and now eighteen seconds to.
Vote Corey, Bowman welcome back to the fifty Five Cassey Morning.

(02:03:55):
Show on the heels of your debate against aftab pervol
last night At. Xavier how you feel this, Morning, Corey.

Speaker 13 (02:04:02):
Well i'm chilling a lot. BETTER i just stopped by
my shop and got my first quartato for the, day
so it's gonna be a good day, today. Sir how
you doing great to have be on the. Show it's.

Speaker 1 (02:04:12):
Great so you Know wednesday night at the smitham and.
FUNDRAISER i, MEAN i know you pretty, Well. COREY i
Mean i've talked to you a lot on the, Air
i've talked to you off. Air i've heard you comment
In in no, way shape or form WOULD i ever
like declare you as some sort of maga, conservative which
apparently is exactly what after have Pro ball came, out
we created a drinking game yesterday in anticipation or. Debate

(02:04:33):
anytime someone Mentions trump OR. Maga that was a, shot
and of course he accused you of being A Maga.
REPUBLICAN i don't know why the. Audience somebody said he
said you're A maga extremist and the audience. Booting SO
i don't know why the audience is. Doing and the
fact that he REPRESENTS. MAGA i, mean you either support
The trump agenda or you. Don't you can't run for
mayor and not be concerned with the federal employees who

(02:04:55):
are getting, fired not be concerned with the racializing of
our own public safety challenges here in. Community, DUDE i
have never heard you racialize. Anything i've never heard you
even address federal level funding and spending because you're not
running for an office that controls or has anything to
do with. It that did that really irk? YOU i
guess this is my fundamental. Question did you feel, like

(02:05:15):
oh my, GOD i have to actually spend time pointing
this reality? Out?

Speaker 5 (02:05:23):
WELL i don't.

Speaker 13 (02:05:24):
Know it's because basically we knew that these were going
to be the talking. Points you, know the playbook's always the.
Same and for, me like you, said we're running this
race For, cincinnati and so our biggest battle that we've
had throughout the entire. Year is just showing people that
we're not running this based on copy and pasting national.
POLITICS i have opinions on national, politics like everybody, does

(02:05:45):
but that really shouldn't be brought to city hall when
it comes to just fixing your roads and making sure
the money spent properly and make sure that your crime
is in. Order these are practical issues that require just
common sense, solutions AND i think that's what people are tired,
of you. Know and people were booing when that was brought,
up because that's what people are fed up. With they're

(02:06:07):
fed up with people from city hall trying to act
like they're on a national stage when really we need
to be focusing on the people that are on the
streets Of. Cincinnati and that's.

Speaker 1 (02:06:16):
It, well and they kept coming back with. IT i
noticed the end of the, debate they just ask you, out, Pointy,
plank if there's anything you disagree With trump on. AGAIN i,
Mean trump's dealing with global, affairs, warfare he's dealing with
interstate commerce, issues fighting like national drug. CRISES i, MEAN
i know what they're trying to.

Speaker 12 (02:06:37):
Do.

Speaker 1 (02:06:37):
Corey i'm not an, idiot but you know IT'S i think,
personally it's insulting to the audience in the, crowd who
are presumably residents of The city Of cincinnati or care
about City cincinnati issues for him to be pushing things
on a national. Level Christopher smithlan has harped on this
for years and. Years why are they passing ordinances in
the city Of cincinnati saying something like we disagree With.

(02:06:59):
Israel he got no connection With. Israel get back to
the business of the city Of. Cincinnati, Dammit, no you're absolutely.

Speaker 13 (02:07:06):
True you, know there's obviously things from the national level
that impact local. Citizens and so if there is clear Anti,
semitism that there's clear discrimination against a certain group for a,
race that's stuff that we have to stand up against
him matter. What but you know what's funny is THAT
i was at THE boe AND i was casting my.

(02:07:26):
Vote i'm a little. BIASED i won't tell you WHO
i voted. For but As i'm, THERE i speak with
a gentleman and he's wearing A palestine sweatshirt, on and
initially he's yelling at my guys because he disagrees with
a lot of stuff from a national standpoint of what
the conservative movement stands. FOR i spoke with him for five,
minutes AND i kid you, not after five, minutes he

(02:07:49):
realized what we were running this race on and he
told me point, Blank i'm going to switch my vote
from mappab to you because of what you've just told
me right. Now SO i just think that that is
symbolic of what this campaign has to, represent is just
getting people to, realize we have to run this For.
Cincinnati we have to take care of our own. Streets you,
know one thing last night they kept, saying AND i don't,

(02:08:10):
KNOW i don't know whether he just has people in
his ear that flat out, lie but he kept saying
That i've called for The National guard to come To
cincinnati Never and What i've What i've told people over
and over and over is that number, one we don't
have violent riot currently in the. Streets that's not the,
case that we don't need. It Number, two a city

(02:08:32):
that's run properly can actually take care of its own.
Crime but that's not what's happening right. Now we've got
to change this from internal structure Within.

Speaker 1 (02:08:42):
Well pause Ring corey bumming. Back we'll talk about the
crime specific conversation and, exchange but ALSO i want to
talk to him about the exchange about controlling one's own
destiny in one's own neighborhood within the city Of, cincinnati
insofar as property. GOES i thought that was rather revealing
what they have. Had Pro baoll revealed yesterday eight thirty,
Six right now With Corey bowman after these brief, words.

Speaker 3 (02:09:02):
Fifty FIVE krc is your five million talk.

Speaker 1 (02:09:04):
Station Brent towmins With Corey, bowman mayoral. Candidate find the
on Line Corey bowman dot. Com we have a choice
and it is open voting right. NOW i want to
pivot over to housing and, development AND i have to
have Pro ball was on and on Yesterday Corey bowman
about the need to create and build affordable. HOUSING i
think he claims he wants to. Build he personally is
going to get a hammer out and build forty thousand
affordable housing. Units before we get to the question of

(02:09:26):
what exactly is affordability and is it the same in
any given. Neighborhood he sure as hell pointed out that
you do not really have the right to self. Determination
we need affordable. Housing he's firm in that in order
to solve that, crisis we have to build. Them and
he said the prior zoning laws were what was binding
or hindering. Progress, NOW i know you'll have a word

(02:09:47):
or two on that in your neighborhood, specifically you know
what was hindering. Progress but he said sometimes that the
council and the mayors always need to disagree with residents
in one part of town or to address the needs
of residence in the entire, city saying we're going to
do the, hard sometimes unpopular work of building housing across

(02:10:08):
the city because pole after pole will show you we
need this kind of affordable. HOUSING i, mean he's isn't
he basically saying that if you move in the city Of,
cincinnati you're under threat or risk of having your neighborhood
completely transformed in spite of what you want on popular
as may, be by them foisting a bunch of affordable
housing in your. Neighborhood that is not exactly a welcome
sign for moving to the city Of. Cincinnati Corey, bowman your, response,

(02:10:32):
NOW i think that you, know.

Speaker 13 (02:10:33):
The argument on the other side is that you know
what we're seeing from the federal government, dictatorship and you,
know taking authority where you.

Speaker 5 (02:10:40):
Shouldn't but that's exactly what we.

Speaker 13 (02:10:42):
Saw last night from From Atpa purval and he said
the he, said the real part out loud is that,
basically no matter what you feel about your, neighborhoods no
matter what you feel about, development we are going to
issue our own, development our own standards on, zoning and
you're not going to have anything to say about. It
AND i don't think that's Right cincinnati. Especially you, know

(02:11:03):
it's one thing to regulate certain things downtown because you
have to have businesses and you have to have residential
all working. Together but we are a city of fifty two.
Neighborhoods every neighborhood has its own, uniqueness its own. Character
and if you're sitting there saying that we're going to
copy and paste our own, design development and zoning regulations
on you and you basically can't say anything about, it,

(02:11:26):
well in my, mind that is not properly representing the
people of your. City AND i don't think that's. Right you,
know we see that in The West. End they've put
somewhereabouts you, can you, know basically prove about sixty seven
to seventy, percent but really it's about you, know closer
to eighty percent of affordable, housing and they keep calling
it affordable housing and government subsidized. Housing you, know LIKE

(02:11:47):
i jokingly, said BUT i knew the fact that it
is thirty sixty. Percent. AMI i have a friend that's
developing a property across the street from my coffee. Shop
he's doing eighty. Percent. Ami it's just government stuff to die.
Housing to try to put it, down the problem is
is that what they're funding is organizations in goos and

(02:12:08):
people that don't have the tenant's best interest at. Heart
they're funneling, money and then on top of, that they're
building concrete blocks that basically feel like a, prison and
they really are because they're keeping people in poverty the
rest of their. Lives there's no pathway. Out AND i
couldn't disagree more with the policy of what's been happening.

Speaker 1 (02:12:27):
Currently, well you may have answered my question because earlier
in the, PROGRAM i was, saying what is affordable? Housing
just like you. Are no one ever puts a dollar
sign on, it, necessarily but even if they, did if
you build a complex In Hyde, park six hundred square foot,
apartments that's going to command a certain rent because it's
in a certain. Neighborhood now if you build the same
complex in your neighborhood in The West, end would a

(02:12:48):
six hundred square foot apartment command the same rent as
an apartment In Hyde? Park Location location, LOCATION i would suggest,
perhaps at least as of right, Now Hyde park's going
to command a much higher rent because of market forces and.

Speaker 13 (02:12:59):
Desirability, no, absolutely and, honestly and that's why the entirety
of The West side is so up in arms right
now is because you can buy a house with the same,
property same architectural design on the west, side same, beauty same,
character and then you buy the same house on the east,
side and the east side is going to go for
one hundred and two hundred thousand. More and so what

(02:13:22):
happens is that these, policies when it comes to the affordable,
housing ultimately you're kind of trying to mimic or you're not,
mimic but you're trying to dictate the, market and when
you do that property value just goes. Down, overall you're
concentrating the. Poverty therefore you're concentrating the. Crime and then
one Thing i'd say to the opposition is that you're

(02:13:42):
showing up for photo ops to Paint Black Lives matter
on City, hall but really Do black lives matter when
it comes to this affordable. Housing from What i've, seen
you concentrate poverty and, crime which inadversly it affects the black.
Communities and that's something that we have to. Fight we
have to give everybody the opportunity to have a step

(02:14:03):
up in. Prosperity and that's not what's. Happening that is
not what's. Happening all, right we're gonna pivot over to.
Crime we'll take a quick break right, now Bring Corey
bowman back to talk about the back and forth yesterday
during the debate At Zavier university on. Crime one more
with mayor ole Candidate Corey bowman again online At coreybowman dot.

Speaker 3 (02:14:21):
Com let's be right back fifty FIVE Krc Sports.

Speaker 1 (02:14:24):
STATION i share that sentiment on A, Friday Corey bowman's
on the line he was involved in the debate With.
MAYOR i have to Have. PURVOL i think he did
an excellent job last. Night Corey, bowman and you got

(02:14:45):
one more debate with the. MAYOR i guess real quick
here on the property, THING i Think MAYOR i have
to Have parvol said something along the. LINES a city
can't become a city just solely for wealthy. People but
isn't that exactly what they did when they gentrified over The,
ryan kicking a lot of longtime residents out because they
can no longer afford, it moving in a bunch of
urban hipsters because they came with jobs and salaries that are, Taxed,

(02:15:09):
corey wasn't that the point of? Gentrification?

Speaker 13 (02:15:13):
No and then also in the current area OF, otr
everybody wants to talk about south Of, Liberty that's where
the mayor has all the. Videos nobody wants to talk
About north Of. Liberty you, know last NIGHT i invited
the Guests Ronda winn to be on the front. Road,
Now i'll be honest with, You i've had talked with
her and she wasn't fully convinced about the race. Yet

(02:15:35):
she's just trying to get justice for her daughter's murder
that happened north Of liberty IN. Otr and still to this,
day the mayor has not reached out to. Her last,
night he had a perfect example to meet her and
didn't meet her on the front. Row and then so
Afterwards Ms ronda comes up to. Me he, Says i'm with.
You we're going to get this.

Speaker 5 (02:15:53):
Thing and so those are things.

Speaker 13 (02:15:55):
That we're, seeing is that when you talk about the
gentrification or when you talk about these housing, policies it
ultimately leads to concentrated, crime and that is leaving victims
at the hands of all these. Criminals and that's what
we've got to stop. It it's basically a trickle down
in confidence from the top.

Speaker 1 (02:16:12):
Down, well and based on his comments last, night you
Think mary have to Have provoll was the best friend
of the police. Department, he's, oh we've worked, together we're
we're busy doing, this and that we're going to hire
more police. Officers but you pointed out an excellent, point
and he has been very reactive as opposed to proactive
when it comes to. Policing what. Happens we Have Sarah
herringer's husband stabbed the death in their apartment and over

(02:16:32):
the rhine that through tremendous. Outrage that's when we found
out that, no they're not monitoring ankle bracelets out on
the World low And. Behold then of course you had
the Late july beat Down. Holly we all saw the
video And i've talked to her and had her on the.
Program you've met her and talked to.

Speaker 13 (02:16:45):
Her he was there last, night she was, good And
mayor failed to talk with her last. Night we had
ample opportunity before and after to speak with multiple individuals
in the, room and he did not speak with any
of those. Victims die And Buy it on the front
row last.

Speaker 1 (02:16:59):
Night and we made it to the national stage for that,
incident which prompted him to do what implement curfew enforcement
at least pay lip service to it in certain, neighborhoods
improve policing in certain, neighborhoods and a cry to hire
more police. Officers all of this was in reaction to
the post national. Headlines what had he done prior to, that,

(02:17:19):
though is really What i'm, wondering especially since he hired
On Iris rowley as a very well paid consultant who
is nothing but an apparently an agitator who actually interferes
with police doing their.

Speaker 13 (02:17:31):
Work one thing they kept saying last night on the
other side is That corey doesn't know what he's, doing
and that came right back and, said you didn't get
the endorsement OF. FOP i got THE. FOP i think
they know what they're, doing and then you didn't actually
get this just came out that he didn't get the
endorsement from the fire department, either AND i believe that

(02:17:51):
they know what they're doing as. Well SO i think
the ultimate thing is that maybe after four years of
being in, office he doesn't know what he's. Doing and
we've got to bring to the table because not only
just these professionals of public, safety but we cannot forget the.
Victims the people that have been most affected are the
people like The Sarah, herringers The Rohmda, wins the mother

(02:18:13):
Of Krishanda. Win, oh you got to talk About holly
who got Beat she was one of the many people
that night that was trying to stop the. Violence she
wasn't trying to instigate, it and she gets beat, down
and that's unacceptable in a major city In. America and
so we can talk about the, stats the policy all we,
want but, ultimately if we fail to recognize the victims

(02:18:35):
and the people that have seen the consequences of these,
policies then we're forgetting what it's all.

Speaker 1 (02:18:40):
About and one final topic that was addressed toward the,
END i guess you're a hell no on increasing the income,
tax ALTHOUGH i have to have provol welcomes an increase
in income tax apparently because he, said need to bring
in money if you want to accomplish what we want to.
Do another red. Flag if you want to improve the
desirability of living in the city Of, cincinnati raising taxes

(02:19:00):
is not the right way to go from my, Perspective,
corey your.

Speaker 13 (02:19:02):
Take, NOW i had another guest last. Night her name Was,
taniqua and she is actually a business, Owner black business
owner woman in the city and very. Successful but what
she told me was that when she was down on her,
luck she went through slumlord after slum, lord and she
was getting, abused she was getting taken advantage. Of and

(02:19:23):
this is her and her children that were in terrible living,
situations and all these slum lords were funded by the. City,
well then she buys her own property and she's now a,
homeowner and she's a. Renter now a, renter but she's a.
Landlord and she's told me that ever since she's done,
this she has felt demonized or basically felt like that

(02:19:44):
she's guilty for being successful because she has to pay
into more, fees more, taxes more. Everything so that's the
system that we're under right, now is that we incentivize.
Rendership we incentivize being reliant on the. Government but if
you want to have a successful, business if you want
to be a property, owner if you want to own
a single family home in the, city then you are

(02:20:05):
basically treated.

Speaker 5 (02:20:06):
As the bad.

Speaker 13 (02:20:06):
Guy and what do you think those policies.

Speaker 10 (02:20:08):
Are going to.

Speaker 13 (02:20:09):
Do the taxes have to come from. Somewhere the taxes
have to come from, business they have to come from,
property they have to come from. Income and the thing
is is that if the taxes aren't coming from that
or even the earning, text people are going to stop
spending their money In. Cincinnati and then all of a,
sudden you're going to be left with a lot of
people that will rely on the government in, renting but

(02:20:30):
they're not going to be able to step out of,
that and you're going to leave the city worse and
worse and worse and more of a. Despicit they're going
to have less money on the, books and it's just
not going to do well for the future days Of.

Speaker 1 (02:20:42):
Cincinnati Corey, bowman it sounds me like you have a
good recipe for success as mayor of The city Of.
Cincinnati it doesn't bother me a wit that you haven't
held political office before everybody starts. Somewhere you're surrounded by good.
PEOPLE i know you've got great ideas for who the
city manager might. Be hopefully you get A Steve gooden
and At Christopher smithman And Liz keating all with. You
there are are, options there are our. Choices you can

(02:21:02):
start voting and you maybe should have already twenty five
days and eleven hours. Left Corey, Bowman you're always welcome
here on the morning, show continued to wish for success
for you and your, campaign and another encouragement my listeners
head on over To coreybowman dot com to maybe help you.
Out take care of my. Friend have a wonderful. WEEKEND
i know we'll talk again real, Soon.

Speaker 13 (02:21:20):
Brian thank you so, much having an amazing.

Speaker 5 (02:21:22):
Weekend thanks.

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