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Thank you for summing up for me. In one sound
by Joe Tracker Brian Thomas right here, glad to be
hope you're having a wonderful day. Good to see Joe
where he belongs, right there with his finger on the
sound bite button and the phone umber you can call,
love to hear from you. Maybe you got a comment
about Police Chief Threes Thigi walking on thin ice right now,
Rumors of her being fired swirling around the city of
Cincinnati day. We are going to be talking about that

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this morning. I have some details on that, but you
can call five one three, seven fifty five hundred, eight
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pound five fifty on AT and T phones. Love hearing
from the listeners, and I love hearing from Dan Hills,
former FOP president. We had Ken Kobra on earlier. Ken
quote in the paper responding to the claims about police
Chief three, So that Thigi being hauled into the office

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and get a I don't know, a ton lashing from
are I have to have purwal Or City manager long. Anyway,
we'll talk to Dan Hills about the chief being forced
to resign or not keep your pop going out as
I always like say six point thirty with Dan Hills
to seven oh five. Congressman Barren Davidson will get his
thoughts comments on the reaction with the Israel Gaza broker

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peace deal, which I'm not saying is falling apart, but
if you've been paying attention to what's going on the
ground in Gaza, the Hamas folks a little bit upset
and are going around murdering a bunch of Palestinians. Right, Yeah,
the very the governing body. I guess you could argue

(01:58):
it's still the governing body Hamas for Gaza. Not that
people voted on that, but shooting their own people, killing
their own people, winding them up and putting bullets in
the back of their head. There's been a lot of
news articles about that, and they're claiming that the ones
that they're killing, Hamas is killing these people because the
people that they have selected to kill were working with

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the Israelis or something like that. Sounds remarkably similar to
our hasty withdraw from Afghanistan, leaving a lot of the
Afghanistan folks who had actually helped us during our occupation there, well,
leaving them to a questionable future. I'm sure a lot
of them didn't quite make it out of that same
thing going on right now. So Andre Ewing the return

(02:44):
heading on to bed last night, a little bit after
my appointed bedtime, which is eight o'clock. So I'm looking
at my watch like jeesus, twenty after eight. I gotta
get going. And that's when I realized I got a
text message from Andrea Ewing. Curse Breakers three hundred. Andrea
Ewing brother Dre, he refers to himself as well, return
of the Morning Show. He's an outspoken former police officer,

(03:05):
retired with dignity, and he's been actively involved in criminal
rehabilitation programs, and that that's the curse breaker three hundred thing.
He's gonna outspoken on Facebook, he is. It's always say
you gotta follow Andrea Ewing on Facebook, much in the
same way I recommend people follow Signal ninety nine. I've
got some words for her on this police chief threats
a Thiji thing. Anyway, we'll hear about him and his

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reaction to these rumblings about the chief. We'll hear about
the violence downtown. He's got his finger on the pulse
of a lot of things going on in downtown Cincinnati.
Andre Ewing at seven thirty. Liz Keating running for since
a city council. I like Liz, She's a wonderful lady.
Should joined the program at eight oh five. How is
her campaign going, and of course her thoughts on the
local big topics, including the debate last night? Did you

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watch it? If you did, call me up? Was that
last night? Joe?

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Was that?

Speaker 4 (03:52):
It was six pm? Yeah, call me up. Let me
know what you thought about it. Not a lot of shocking, literally,
no one. A lot of local reporting on the debate
between I have to have pro Wall and Corey Bowman.
So anyhow, Liz geting on a variety of dovigs a
day oh five, and of course it's Friday East. We
hear from my heart MEATIA aviation expert Jay rat left

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today Boeing, increasing the number of jets delivered, but still
behind Airbus Delta United reporting strong earnings and a nod
to the premium passengers for the strong earnings report. Plus
a passenger attacked a crew member, forcing an emergency landing
on Alaska airlines. There's always somebody out there doing something

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extraordinarily stupid. We'll talk about that with Jay. We'll see
if I can't come up with some curveball topics between
now and eight thirty to throw at Jack. All right,
since it's the bubbling percolating local issue and there are
a lot of other bubbling percolating issues. Hey, you know
there's I know one of the reasons that Democrats keep

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the government shut down is because they don't want to
wait till this no King's prote us this weekend October eighteenth.
Are you planning on attending. They're expecting millions and millions
of people across the Sun Country to show up on
October eighteenth, this Saturday. There's one event located near you.
More than twenty five hundred of them are planned across
every state in the Union. Organizers include all of the people,

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the usual characters that you would expect, and a lot
of big fat promotional money by those left wing organizations
like move on dot org that have been promoting this.
So get out there and be angry and yell and
scream and try to be peaceful if you can try
to be I know, I pivoted away from the police

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chief comments, but this is going to be big, and
the Democrats were waiting around for this, because then they're
going to point to the millions of people who took
to the streets on Saturday and protests to the Trump
administration and whatever they're out protesting. Are they angry because
evil Orange Man period, end of story, the Trump arrangement syndrome? People?
Are they angry old immigration policies? Are the angry over

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ice picking up dangerous, murderous rapists and deporting them otherwise
incarcerating him? Is this a rally in support of keeping
illegal immigrant criminals on the street? Is that what this
is about? Is it about Donald Trump negotiating peace between

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Israel and Hamas? Is it about anger over the lack
of a two state solution? Is it anger over and
frustration over the situation involving the Palestinian people? Is it
anger and frustration over the green energy policies of the
United States. It could be all of them, and I'm
gonna suggest yes, it is literally all of them. It

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reminds me of like the late sixties and early seventies
with Vietnam protests, which included a whole bunch of different
groups and factions coming together just as an angry mob.
Look there they are. That must be the will of
the people, and we'll see. I just want you to
keep in mind. You know, there's a lot of people

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out there that probably have nothing to do on a Saturday.
They'll be happy to show up at this protest because
evil Orange man or whatever. But considering the population of
the United States of America, consider that we have three
hundred and forty plus or minus million people here, how
many people have to show up to reflect and a
reflection of popular public opinion. And just because you have

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a big showing of protesters, is it really truly representative
of what the American people want? Because poll after poll
after poll, you're talking about these eighty twenty issues, the
Democrats always seem to be on the twenty percent side,
Like guys pretending to be girls and getting into the
restroom with your twelve year old daughter. Okay, that one's

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a no brainer. If I think the vast majority of
people and if this protest was all about that issue,
you would probably get a very very insignificant number of
people showing up. But this is this is an ill
defined moment of anger that's going on after it's taking
place on Saturday, and a disturbing element is whether or not,

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like you know, the George Floyd protests, to b LM protests,
the anti file protests, and there's gonna be a lot
of anti file folks out and then amid this crowd,
you know damn well that there will be, and I
bet there'll be a lot of masked, black clad individuals
waving their respective flags, but also throwing fireworks, bottle rocket,
smoke bombs, maybe even as happened the other day driving

(08:36):
an suv into ice agents. I suspect some of that's
gonna happen. And the reason why is there's actually another
new poll out. Not that this shocks anybody, but a
subsizable number of liberals believe it is acceptable to break
the law in the name of their political message. It's

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survey by Signal. They've on this several years and years
in a row. Forty two percent of liberals say it
is acceptable to go beyond peaceful protests, even if it
means breaking the law. The number jumps to sixty percent
of liberals under the age of thirty, so you're young
people out there, and I would say a pretty decent
majority at sixty percent are willing to break the law

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in the name of their political objective. The President's signal
who did this poll in the Polster One side of
American political spectrum, whether directly engaged in behaviors or not,
now openly accepts breaking laws if it means advancing their
political agenda. Considering their justification of illegal immigration, and instances
that it is not a criminal act. If the act

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is desperate, this might not be such a surprise. So
I just have to go back to what's on the
books now. I guess they're actually angry at the laws
that are on the books, laws defining who is lawfully

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in our country and who is not. And then there's
that separate, pesky set of criminal laws independent of one's
lawful status in the country or not. If you or
I legal citizens commit a crime like, oh, I don't know,
raping a child, we're gonna end up in prison because
our criminal justice system demands it. If any one of

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the quote unquote illegal immigrants that's been picked up by ICE,
ICE doing its job and complying with federal law regarding immigration,
if they pick up somebody who is a let's say,
a child rapist like I just mentioned, and they happen
to be illegal. The remedy we've got, and it's a
quick one, is to throw them out of the damn
country and center back for wherever they came, or pick
a country randomly, which the Trump administration seems to do.

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I'm puzzled by that. Be well, how do you pick
Uganda or whatever as a country when the person that
you picked up came from pick a country, Venezuela. But
it's a quick, expedient remedy to get a dangerous person
out of our country.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
One.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
They had no right to be here in the first place,
they broke the law doing so. And then oh look
long and behold they turn out to be a moluster
of children. Yeah, okay. Rather than send them through the
criminal justice system and lock them up in a prison
at taxpayer dollars expense, how about we just throw them out.
That's why you're protesting, because you don't want a dangerous

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person picked up and chucked out of the country head
to the streets this weekend. I just hope it doesn't
end up in violence. Although if I was a betting man,
I think you know which direction I'm going to go
on that five at seventeen right now, feel free to

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(12:07):
of info out of them. Yesterday, Scott Wortman, the Cincinni Inquirer,
on the current status of the race for city Council
and mayor got that empower You seminar tonight really a
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big picture with Jack Avidan. It's all right there. Fifty
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you feel free to call, like Bobby did. Bobby, welcome
back to the program. Happy Friday, eve to.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
You, Happy Thursday, my friend. Do you have any locations
or where we're supposed to have these festivals and the
thing Saturday.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
Well, according to the little map which I saw on
the reporting on this, they're pretty much literally everywhere. There're
twenty five hundred of them across the country. I suspect your
most likely destination would be something like maybe City Hall downtown.
I don't know. I honestly, Bobby. As much as I
wanted to talk about the reality of what's going on
and put it in the context I did, I wasn't

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interested in promoting it. So you know, it's like, I
literally do not know where the sins I protest is,
but if I did know, part of me would be
reluctant to even say it out loud. Bobby, you plan
it on showing up.

Speaker 5 (13:39):
Joe said, there wasn't anything going on now Cole rain,
but since it was supposed to rain, I thought they
may have some indoor activities or something. Yeah, there's a
lot of malls that are vacant.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
I mean, you know, there's space.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
Available, Gotta have that air conditioning, got to be in comfort,
find a controlled environment. Right.

Speaker 5 (13:59):
Well, God bless them all, you know, God bless them
all Saturday. And maybe the chief ex chief. You know,
she's falling on the stoard for the mayor, so perhaps
it's something that she's falling on the swords.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
Well, you go, she hasn't been fired yet, operative word yet.
Somebody's heads got a roll and they have mayor have
to have Purvoal is certainly not going to allow his
head to be the sacrificial head. Before we get to
the election. Maybe the voters will see it differently, Bobby,
what do you.

Speaker 5 (14:26):
Think her tenure is questionable?

Speaker 4 (14:30):
Well, and going back to ken Kober's point on that
used to be that the police themselves were deciding who
their chief would be. They could choose from among their
own ranks. They are more familiar with who has the
competence to run the police department and to whom they
want to be accountable. Now, the mayor and the city
manager are alone selected, making it an extraordinary political position.

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So you're subject to the whim of probably just one person,
the mayor or maybe the city manager, but collectively it's
supposed to be the mayor and the city manager. So yeah,
I think Ken is right on that maybe we go
back to the old ways, and that's actually one of
the things that's been reported. That was one of his suggestions.
Repeal issue five. So the police chief isn't under the
thumb of an elected official, he said out loud. So

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there you have it. Good to hear from me. As always, Bobby,
stay safe, have a great weekend, and enjoy the no
Kings protest if you can figure out where it is.
Have to comment on this just because I and I
admit to I will call Donald Trump out when I
think he's exceeding his authority and to yesterday, he's kind
of alarming from my standpoint because I personally don't believe

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in unilateral decisions by elected officials to launch rockets and
blow people up in areas where we have no declaration
of war, in an areas where the individuals being blown up. Notably,
drug dealers in boats who are one thousand miles away
plus don't represent an immediate threat to the United States
of America. Yeah they got drugs, Yes they want to
bring the drugs here, but it's not an immediate threat.

(15:55):
Wait for the Coastguard to pick them up once they're
in US waters. Blah blah blah blah. Right, well, now
Donald Trump is letting it is authorized the CIA to
start carrying out strikes inside Venezuela, strikes on land within
the country done by the CIA. We don't know what
the CIA's budget is, We don't even know what they do.
We just know that that's that secret organization behind the scenes,

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supposed to be looking out for our best interest and
of course sowing the seeds of political descent around this country,
impacting elections. And of course, many people are arguing that
Donald Trump is trying to kick out Nicholas Maduro by
launching these strikes against the drug boats. Whether or not
he has any success in a completely corrupt land where
you really can't vote or count on your vote being
counted properly, go ahead, draw parallels. Don't know if he's

(16:39):
going to be successful, but I find it problematic that
he's kind of admitted to doing this. He said, we
had number six votes strike twenty seven dead in little
boats down by Venezuela and pursuing to our missile strikes.
Donald Trump yesterday speaking to reporters, we are certainly looking
at land now because we've got the sea under control.

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We've had a couple of days now where there isn't
a boat to be found. He was asked about this
New York Times report earlier in the morning yesterday that
said he authorized the CIA to carry out operations inside Venezuela,
including lethal operations. At least according to the New York
Times reporting, I authorized for two reasons, he said. Really.

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Number one, they have emptied their prisons into the United
States of America. They came through the border. No argument.
I agree that happened, at least I perceive it to
have happened. Is that does that justify a unilateral decision
to blow up stuff within Venezuela, because my understanding he's

(17:45):
going to blow up the drug cartel operations. Did they
facilitate the emptying out of the prisons or would that
be more of a presidential level decision? Maduro and then
he and I said, a lot of drugs come out
in from Venezuela and a lot of drugs come in
through the sea, but we're going to stop them by land.

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Also wow, I speaking of expedient. That may be an
expedient remedy at least for the time being, but I
do not believe it is constitutional five twenty six. Right now,

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those guys lined up five on three seven fifty two
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hold on, Tom, welcome back, my friend.

Speaker 6 (18:49):
Hey, good morning. So I'm the opening act for west
Side Jim.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
Yeah, you beat him by about You beat him by
about thirty five seconds or so.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Right. Uh.

Speaker 6 (19:01):
By the way, a gas price update, they're now into
two thirties up here north of town.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (19:06):
On the sign is two thirty so yeah, so we're
just yeah, well, what we're waiting for is for the uh,
all the other prices that are affected by fuel prices
to start dropping. Uh, like they went up because of
fuel prices. At least that was a contributing factor. So
we're hoping that uh pretty soon here these uh retail

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chains and all these people dealing with the supply chain
and now that their fuel costs are coming down and
they'll start bringing their prices down something.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
And we can only that's the case.

Speaker 6 (19:37):
We can only hope.

Speaker 4 (19:38):
My wait for a comment was in connection with the
last time you had commented about the changing gas prices,
when it jumped fifty cents in one day, Like, well, why,
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (19:47):
Which I know, it's it's crazy, but yeah, that's kind
of why I keep mentioning it, because I'm waiting for
the other sea to drop.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
It usually will well, it will enjoy it.

Speaker 6 (19:57):
Last Yeah, exactly exactly. So I did uh listening uh
to uh to l w uh at some point yesterday
on the way home, and I heard Joe Dieters on
the on the radio, uh with his buddy Willie, and
uh that Joe Diaters made a comment you can only
say so much justice Joseph Deeaters man.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
We miss him.

Speaker 6 (20:19):
Around here, don't we.

Speaker 7 (20:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (20:23):
Uh, he made a comment that the people down who's
talking about the violence downtown and the crime and all that.
And he said, and he said, these people are not stupid.
They know what needs to be done, they're just not willing.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
To do it.

Speaker 6 (20:38):
And I think that's a very profound statement. I think
I think we can all agree with that. That is
one man's opinion. Yes, agreed. I'm not saying that because
Joe Dieters said it is absolute fact, but I think
we can agree with you agree with that, and you're you're, uh,
who I forget who you quoted?

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (20:55):
Somebody said something about when the when the pain of
change is greater than the pain of saying the.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
Same from the see of Jeff Ruby's restaurant.

Speaker 6 (21:05):
Right, Yeah. I mean, look, we we all have decisions
to make and we get sometimes put in a position
because of negative stuff, consequences, whatever. We got to make
a decision and something maybe we don't want to do,
we never thought we would have to do, but you know,
these these situations are staring us in the face and
we got to do it. And you know, sometimes it

(21:25):
has to be done. So uh, to uh, to follow
up yesterday's phone call, uh, and to respond to Mississippi
James my my perspective on this. First of all, I
agree we should be considering the perspective and circumstances of
people involved in whatever's going on. It's something someone you're
having a conversation with, somebody in a story, Hey, think

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about what they're going through, trying the best you can
to put your put yourself in their shoes, all that stuff.
I guess I wholeheartedly agree. But while we're considering each
other's perspective, we need we need to all being agreement
in agreement on the same basic set of rules. We
should all there's some civility that we all have to maintain.

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That's why, you know, the best kind of discourse is
a civil discourse. We have to stay on topic, we
have to keep our goal. We have to not go
off on some kind of a tantrum on something that
has nothing to do with what we're talking about, just
to mask over whatever it is we have said or
whatever we're accused of doing. And so, yeah, I would

(22:31):
love to have some kind of thing where we can
sit down and talk. But short of that, we have
the ability to get on here and speak our mind
and give our opinions, and we we it's great. I
think it's a very healthy thing to be able to do.
And I encourage people to listen to this and programs
like this and and so that we can hear what

(22:51):
other people have to say. And we talked about this before.
One of the best parts of this is hearing other
people's opinions, not just saying what I have to say
and hanging you up and turn the radio off. But
I like to hear what other people have to say.
I appreciate the responses. Thank you very much for listening.
Thank you very much for responding. You're engaging. And that's

(23:12):
not just Mississippi games that everybody that calls in and
that listens, thank you that you're making this is helping.
This discourse is helping somewhere somehow. It's helping. And if
I can help anymore, I would give everyone the advice
don't vote Rhino and don't vote Democrat. Have a great day.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
I always have opportunity to reel it right back into
that final point. And I appreciate your comments about the show.
That's the component of the show that I enjoy so much,
because who am I a man with an opinion, a
guy with a sphincter like everybody else. It's a good
point James makes all the time. Put yourself or try
to put yourself for another person's shoes, you know. And

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as we look forward to this election in downtown Cincinnati,
I don't vote in the city. I don't live in
the city. I don't experience the situations that go on
in the city. I don't I'm not faced with the
level of crime in my neighborhood that the City of
Cincinnati residents are faced with. I certainly can try to
put myself in the position as someone who has to

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deal with that kind of thing all day long, and
the solution does seem a little obvious to me. Five
point thirty five Right now, Jim, your next or New Hampshire.
Gary's also on the line. I got two calls. I'm
looking forward to having a conversation with it.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Be right back fifty five KARC the talk station, the
talk station.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
By thirty eight fifty five KRCE the talk station. Half
E FRIDAYE. You gonna go directly to the phone. It's
got a few callers lined up this morning, which I
just absolutely love. Five one three seven, four fifty eight
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t phones. Wes Saie, Jim, appreciate the info you passed
along yesterday, which I will let you pass along to
my listening audience. We've got the first statistic from the

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Board of Election, Sherry Poland, who does have a lot
of experience two decades worth about what her guess is
on the voter turnout. Jim, always good to hear from me.
And how did you receive the debate last night? Welcome?

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Well, first of.

Speaker 8 (25:05):
All, I'll get the Sherry pulling out of the way, Brian.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
That's an easy one.

Speaker 8 (25:09):
She was predicting between twenty three and twenty six percent
in the city.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
Right, not the county. And you specifically counting issues you
asked them for only the city. Her projection on city numbers.
So your vote is worth a lot if you choose
to vote in the election.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Which I hope is correct.

Speaker 8 (25:28):
We don't want to see this thing milk down by
the Democrats and make it like thirty five.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
So that's what would happen if if we got up
that high.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
Yeah, Well, if they you know what, Jim, if they
chose to have their no Kings nationwide progress protests on
election day and they chose the oh, I don't know.
Maybe Board of Elections as the venue for that, then
maybe they could get a lot more voters than they
otherwise would not to provide them.

Speaker 8 (25:51):
Way be a total zoo in parking out there, and
I've got to work that day out there.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
I don't want nothing to do with that.

Speaker 8 (25:59):
Before I get into that thea I'll make this early
quick on Britney Ruby. You know, people are making this
out to be that she came out.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
And it's a rent issue. It's not a rent issue.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
No, it's not.

Speaker 8 (26:09):
That's a minor issue. But she explained the fact that
there's no security.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
That's sorry. That's the beef. She said it in the statement.
It was the security at the front door. They're worried
about their employees and the town properties I think is
the name of the company that owns it that they're
having a dispute with. They were disputing over security. They
won't place the guard to the front door. They won't
provide the necessary security perceived needed by the Ruby group.

(26:34):
So there it is. I don't think it was over rent,
it was over security.

Speaker 8 (26:39):
They tried to make an issue in one of the
news stations that it was over a rent issue, but
I was in that office up there, because the Republican
office was one floor up and when you took the
elevator there was absolutely no security and it was no
key card. Seems that she was exactly right on telling this,
but their the town properties are going to come out

(26:59):
and say, well, it was.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Over a rent issue. That's all bull So that's this,
And then she got into the fact.

Speaker 8 (27:06):
Of crime and that she was downtown on one of
these happenings and that is why they're thinking about moving that.
It's a palacious office up there, and I know Jeff
Ruby doesn't want to spend the money to move, but
now he has to. And I'm hoping that the restaurant
isn't next, because that is the number one restaurant in

(27:28):
downtown Cincinnati, a bar all.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
So we'll see what happens on that.

Speaker 8 (27:34):
Now the debate, Now, if anybody watched that and didn't
know Purvall before this, he's a bully, and Corey is
very statesmanlike and diplomatic, and he got a couple of
jabs in. But Corey is not the meaning that Purvall is,
and Purvoll saying Cory this and Cory that, and he

(27:57):
was not qualified and he doesn't know what he's talking
about and things like this.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
That's the Purvall. He tried to be nice, but Purball
isn't nice. He has to get his he has to
get his digs in.

Speaker 8 (28:09):
And if anybody didn't see that, you should hit the
DVR and you should go back and watch that thing
because it was absolutely terrible the way he treats people.
And he treated people like that in the clerk's office.
I knew people in the clerk's office down and when
he was there, and he was horrible. And that's why
a lot of them either quit when they stuck it
out because of the fact of retirement. And then as

(28:32):
soon as soon as retirement age came up, it's kind
of like.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
A drop with the police. They got out.

Speaker 8 (28:38):
And you know, I saw the pure Ball that I
know last night, and Corey Uh, I thought he did
a decent job.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
I wish the Ruby thing would it came up with.

Speaker 8 (28:48):
When Purvall said about the fact that business is coming
downtown and everything is jumping and everything is great.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
And all this kind of stuff, did he did he
cite any specific examples of businesses that are coming downtown
on Moss No, no, I don't think so. Yeah, I did.
I knew the answer to that question before asking you.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Absolutely no.

Speaker 8 (29:09):
And he ain't talking about the ones over leaving, the
big corporations and so forth.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
On his watch. Yeah, And you know, it's just sure.

Speaker 8 (29:18):
He talked about the housing coming in and I just
don't understand where you're coming up with the fact of
forty thousand housing opportunities coming up in the next four years.
Forty thousand Are you kidding me?

Speaker 4 (29:32):
They can't get a lane mile get his number, They
can't get a lane mile paved. How they're gonna bill
forty thousand units? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (29:40):
And then that that was one of the focal points
last night was the paving, and Corey got him on
that one where he came out and he said, well,
you've had four years to do this. Why is it
during the election year and all of a sudden you're
bringing all this up. Everybody knows that it wouldn't even
have to be explained. He's doing it because he wants
votes and he's acting like he's getting something done. No,

(30:01):
Sunset was not brought up. It would have been funny
if Corey would have said, well you should drive up
on down Sunset anyone talk about it. But you know,
the one thing I want to mention about your show, Brian,
and I'll let you go. Your show is nothing like
w l W W l W if you like to
listen to commercials and you like, you like, and this

(30:22):
is a dig on him. It is totally commercial, not free.
And sure you've got you've got bills to pay, and
you do have commercials on air. But your show, like
Tom says, it takes people, and the people to call
in keep the show rolling when you cut in wl
W IF cutting him takes three calls a day, which

(30:43):
most of the time that's a lot. That's that's pretty
much the end of it. And he's a bully. He's
just mother bunch bully as purball in it.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
But I'm sorry, I'm just and I doubt listening to
the show right now.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
He don't listen to anything. You don't even listen to
his own my god.

Speaker 4 (31:03):
But well, you know, I appreciate that, and I like
to just acknowledge I'm self deprecating enough to know that
you know, I'm not the answer. I think I have
the right direction, and I try to explain why I
believe that, because I believe the power of your life
should be directed by you. I mean, that's why. But

(31:24):
I'm happy to provide the avenue. And that's why I
really appreciate callers calling in because you know what, you
guys may be thinking about something along a different line
than me. You're there to enlighten me or maybe bring
a topic or a point up that I haven't specifically
brought up to, you know, to Mississippi James kind of comment.
You know you didn't mention this, Well, it's because it
wasn't on my mind to mention. It's not because I
intentionally excluded something. That's what you're for, and that's why

(31:48):
God love each and every one of you. I got
the best audience in radio, there is no question about it,
and you're one of the reasons. West Side Jim Kiefer,
and thank you for all your little inside scoop information
that you passed along. You're my favorite little bird out
in the word, out in the world.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Last week, last week, Brian, last week.

Speaker 8 (32:03):
If I can say, that was too short of an
interview last night on Channel twelve. They had to try
to jam everything into a half an hour and it
just wasn't enough time. But I understand that's prime time.
So at least Corey got out there and people got
the scene that usually to watch the news.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
Check it out online. It should be really easy to find.
Appreciate your call west Side Jim as always flying six
right now, New Hampshire. Gary, your next thing, Hey.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
I got two things. You can incorporate some of your
products you with your advertisement with your show. You can
always peat.

Speaker 9 (32:38):
The capital of Columbus with some rhino shield and if
that didn't work, you could always use O directit.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
I appreciate it. Gary, thanks very much, and prose for
supporting the sponsors. Jay, thanks for calling in again. Jay.
It's always good to hear from you. Oh Jay, real quick,
you have a reading assignment, Gay, go to zero hedge
dot com. There's an article there that's we reposted from
the Epoch or Epic Times regardless by Molly Engelhardt headline

(33:10):
when do we truly own anything? The property tax scheme
that keeps us paying forever? I thought about you the
minute I read that. So anyhow, reading assignment.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
Yeah, man, it sounds good. Hey, just want to give
you an update.

Speaker 10 (33:24):
We're up to seventy five billion dollars in savings with
this government shut down, and I kind of thought about,
what could we do with that money? Minus the twenty
billion that was given to Argentina by Trump gets us
down to fifty five billion dollars saved. So I thought
about what else could we do with that money? With
fifty five billion, we could actually fund the Department of

(33:46):
Education for three months, and the twenty billion that was
given to Argentina, that could actually fund one year of
Ohio Medicaid fraud. So it's you know, you put it
in that perspective, A fifty billion dollars would only fund
one Department of Education for three months. So people need

(34:08):
to think about we could go back in time. Would
you rather have the government fully funded and operational for
these past two weeks with an approble rating of like
twenty seven percent? Or would you rather have seventy five
billion dollars going towards the national debt? We don't need
more government. Nobody's suffering, Everybody relaxed. And to your point,

(34:30):
why back to property tax? What does this government ever do?
Why are we paying rent to somebody who never took
any risks, didn't build your house, didn't develop your property,
doesn't have any risk or a dime invested, and make
no mistake, that's your landlord that you're going to continue
to pay till the day you die for having done zero.

(34:51):
So we'll get out before the end of this month
is when over the petitions have to be in. So
if you haven't done it yet, get moving. Take some
neighbors with you. I I finally got moving. I think
I got fifteen to twenty signatures just by walking around
the neighborhood when I finally decided times up.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Time to take time to get moving.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
So people aren't aware. So hurry up, get busy. Whatever
you do.

Speaker 10 (35:13):
Don't vote Rhino, don't vote Democrat.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
Have a good day, Bryan.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
Thanks Jay, and another reading assignment for everybody with regard
to the government shutdown today article by Daniel Huff and
the opinion segment of the Wall Street Journal. Government shutdown No.
An efficiency audit based on data from past closing is
roughly twenty five percent of the federal workforce, of course,
could be permanently cut. Good number crunching on that one.
Looking at pass shutdowns, a number of people who lost

(35:37):
their jobs, who were furloughed, and really the impact on
that at least in so far as how you and
I experienced it, and I am with Dan that Yeah,
I do believe twenty five percent of the work or
force could be permanently cut, resulting in a significant decrease
in our spending in government. Say okay with me, stick around.
Dan Hill's former FOP chief, going to be talking about

(35:58):
is the police chief? He said, Thiji going to be
forced to resign and get some details on that. Top
of the Air News follow by Dan Hills at six
thirty and Congressman Warren Davidson returned at seven oh five.
Other guests including Andre Ewing, Liz Keating, and Jay Ratliffe
on the program as well this morning. I hope you
can stick around. It'll be right back. Today's tough headlines
coming up. You're a fig about Karise de Talk Station
Brian Thomas right now, wish in every potty happy Thursday's

(36:22):
last Friday Eve looking forward to the bottom of the hour,
Dan Hills, former FOP president, are the outstanding swirling controversy
about police chief Threesid Thiji being hauled into the Principal's
office yesterday. City Manager Cheryl Lung said that yes, the
chief was asked to return to the city immediately to
immediately address departmental matters, but they did not fire her,
although it does appear as if they're heading in that direction,

(36:44):
blaming the chief of police for perhaps failures of the administration.
Congressman Warren Davidson in one hour on the shutdown the
Israeli Hamas peace deal, question mark piece deal. I know
things that are not going real smoothly within Gaza. We'll
get to Congressman Davidson in an hour, follow by Andre
You and Andre. Brother Dre Hurst Breaker's three hundred an

(37:05):
outspoken observer of the craziness going on in downtown Cincinnati.
I strongly encourage you to follow Brother Dre on Facebook.
He's going to be back at seven point thirty and Dre,
if you're out there listening. Man, Sorry, I couldn't get
back to your phone call last night, but I was
really excited to learn you're going to be on the
show today when I woke up this morning. Liz Keating
running for sinc A City Council. How's a campaign going?

(37:27):
Get her thoughts on the, of course, local topics, including
her position on the police chief. Jay Ratliffe Media, I
heard me the aviation expert every Thursday. The thirty today,
not deviating from the norm. Looking forward to Jay as
I always do, and I always love talking to former
Vice mayor of the City of Cincinnati running for Cincinna
City Council. You have a choice. Let's go a different direction.

(37:48):
Let's vote smith Aman back into office. Welcome Christopher Smithman.
It's a pleasure hearing from me this morning.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
Hey, thank you, Brian. I just want to spend a
few minutes kind of weighing in, and I might have
a different perspective than others about what I see happening.
I see the police chief being used as a scapegoat
right before an election, and it's really troublesome to me.

(38:18):
And I've been talking about issue five and what I
think the shortcomings are with issue five.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
All right, real quick, Chris, Christopher, remind my listeners what
issue five is. This came up in our conversation I
had with Ken Kober earlier, and I had forgotten the
way things used to be versus how they are now,
which means the I guess the mayor and the city
manager are solely responsible for determining who the police chief is,
selecting that person and firing the chief.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
That's correct and what used to happen is you know
when Striker Chief Striker was the last chief under the
old system, which had its pluses and minuses, But the
reality was you knew who the police chief was, and
the police chief made the decisions, the best decisions for

(39:08):
the department, and without fear of termination. And so what's
happening now is this to me is like the loophole
here that is personality driven. The issue five is as
good as the mayor is and as good as the
city manager is. And so what I see here now,
and I'm letting you know publicly that I don't think

(39:30):
the police chief nor the fire chief should be terminated
without the consent of city council. I think seven members
of council should have to weigh in on the termination
of what I would say the most important job, our
fire chief and our police chief. And so what you
see here is right before an election, a mayor in

(39:53):
panic mode, a mayor trying to figure out what he
needs to do politically and willing to destroy somebody else's career. Now,
let's give a context here, right well, first, Fiji Chief
Fiji has given a life to the Cincinnati Police Department,

(40:14):
and she is from the Nevill family. She's a Neville,
and the Nevill family has given so much as police
officers to the City of Cincinnati. So let's make sure
that we put her in the right context and that
we at least what I want to do is if
she decides to leave, resign, or she's fired, that is

(40:34):
done with dignity. All of this is not on her,
because what I've seen the mayor do is send all
kinds of different messages. One of those that's the hiring
of Irish ROWLEI in this consulted position, and nobody quite
knows what she's doing and what kind of pressure she's
putting on the chief. What we do know is that

(40:55):
the city manager has really empowered her in a way
that I've never seen before. We have a chair of
law in Public Safety. That's Scottie Johnson. He's elected, he goes,
his name is on the ballot. That's the person that
is providing the civilian oversight, not Irish Rolely, a consultant.
And it seems like the lines are being blurred here

(41:17):
for me, and I think they were blurred for the
chiefs on who is actually who should she be listening
to and what is the direction now ultimately to the public,
our our our police chief is ultimately responsible for those decisions.
I just want everybody to know that this is part
of the chaos that I think is a problem, because

(41:40):
if the police chief had to come before council right now,
I don't know if they could get seven votes to
fire her, and definitely fire her right before an election
on November fourth. That's the rub for me. It's the
it's the timing of this public it's the time timing
of it, Brian Thomas, that we should all be concerned about.

Speaker 4 (42:03):
Well, and I'm glad you brought up that the full
council having a say in this point, because I was
going to counter your suggestion. How can we expect things
to be different if all the counselor are the same party.
You've got, you know, a Democrat mayor and who I
presume has a tremendous amount of sway over the individual
Democrat council members. How much maybe that would come down

(42:26):
to how they would ultimately vote on firing or not
firing the police chief. But as it is right now,
I think they probably would all vote if the mayor
wanted to fire the chief and the city manager wanted
to fire the chief, they probably would all follow lead
and do so along the same lines.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
Well, I think you are, you think you're right about that.
But here's the difference. You've got the FLP President Kober
who's coming on, and he has people that they have supported,
they've endorsed. So I would think that the FLP would
be able to go to those members of council and say, listen,
here are our thoughts on what you should do, and

(43:05):
those things would be taken under consideration. They wouldn't be
done outside of the electeds, who the people have put
there to provide oversight for police and fire.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
I just think there should be an.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
Extra step here, and particularly Brian the timing of this.
We had a shooting off Fountain Square, we had a
shooting on Fountain Square. We've had shooting in Westwood, all
over the city, you know, and the mayor is under
tremendous pressure here because he didn't have a plan at

(43:39):
the beginning of the summer. I've had many opportunities to
talk to the Governor's office about when they came and
made the first offer, which was somewhere in May of
this year, and the mayor continue to turn down those
offers from the governor. Right, so he had played a role.

(44:02):
He has made the decision. Why is the governor's office
only doing two times a month?

Speaker 4 (44:08):
Now it's four now apparently the signal ninety nine and
I again recommend people follow signal ninety nine on Facebook.
She does a great job, but pointed out, well, I
guess the mayor has just recently decided we're going to
take four days to deal with a twenty four hour days,
seven day week problem.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
I'm trying, I'm trying not to laugh at such a
serious matter, but it's it's crazy that you would think
that the governor is saying, listen, we'll do whatever we
can to help you, and the mayor saying I'll only
accept four times. But prior to that it was only
two times a month. The point that I'm trying to

(44:44):
make here is that members of council who are up
for reelection, this mayor who is up for reelection, right,
they are as responsible for where we are with crime
in our fifty two neighborhoods. We just heard one of
the biggest restaurants, right, signal I think he's signal and

(45:05):
Jeff Ruby saying listen, I'm moving my catering part on
Seventh Street somewhere else. Now, they made a nice flowery statement,
but at the end of the day, everybody understands that
they're concerned about their employees, their cars coming in and
out of that location we had with the taste of
Belgium in OTR. They said they were moving, but they

(45:29):
gave some flowery, you know, pressure release and excuses why
they were leaving. At the end of the day, it's
coming down to crime. People are concerned about their cars,
their well being, their quality of life as they are
interacting in the downtown area. And you and I and
so many people have been raising concerns about the escalation

(45:51):
of this. This mayor had said, it's his perception, it's
our perception that crime is down. Nobody believes that, Brian Thomas,
and so if it's our perception, meaning if he's saying
crime is down, think about what I'm about to say here.
You're saying the chief is doing a good job. That's
been your message to the entire campaign. Then why are

(46:13):
you pushing to fire the police chief. Listen, I can
end on that note, Yes you can. If that's a
narrative that, hey man, this police chief has been doing
a great job. That crime is down. It is all
of our perception, right, not our reality. Then please explain

(46:34):
to me why in the world would there be a
need to fire the police chief.

Speaker 4 (46:40):
Drop the mic right there. This is a profound.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
Yeah, this is a scapegoat from this mayor to try
to change the narrative that he's doing something or that
this counsel is doing something. And all I will tell
all all of our fifty two neighborhoods, we have an
opportunity to do something different. You're the jury out there.
You have to make the decision, and I would say,
elects four or five new members of council that can

(47:12):
bring balance to this city and can move the needle
in the area of safety and making sure that we
are able to bring crime down with a plan. And
it includes accepting help from our partners like the governor
or the sheriff or whoever would like to weigh in
out in there. Brian, thank you so much. I don't

(47:34):
put this all at the head of this chief. I
think it's easy to do that. If she does leave
the position, and she's hearing my voice right now, I
want her to know that she's done a great service
to the City of Cincinnati, just like Chief Washington did.
They fired Chief Washington. Most people don't know the fire

(47:54):
chief was fired and that he has won his lawsuit.
He's won the appeal.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
He may be back. I gotta run, Christopher or out
of time man, God bless you, my friend. Six seventeen
vote Smithman Galaxy Concrete Codings Dot DE talk station six
if you have KERCD talk station looking forward to Dan
Hill's former FOP president with his former FOP president had on.

(48:20):
Is the chief being forced to resign? Swirling rumors about
that she was called back from her out of town meeting,
and so far the comments from the mayor's office are
that know she's not being fired, city manager saying that,
but does look like she's on thin ice. And I've
been singing the praises a Signal ninety nine. Recommend you
follow her on Facebook and she's she gave the recitation
of this into very clear summary of where we were

(48:41):
going back to Christopher Smithman's comments earlier in the year
to where we are now, which seems to be a
mayor in desperation mode. She's right, the people of since
I deserve the truth, not the political theater that has
defined city halls, handling a violent crime in downtown as
well as all over the city. In July, when casts
are upted a main national news the mayor and his
allies dismissed the outrageous hysteria. They stood before the cameras

(49:03):
clutching their pearls, insisting that the city of Cincinnati was safe,
while footage of assaults, open air fights, and chaos told
a very different story. Governor Mike Dewaine extended an unprecedented
offer the full resources of the state to help restore order,
highway patrol, investigative support, technology assets, tools that could have
given the CPD the breathing room it desperately needed. Instead

(49:24):
of welcoming that help, city leaders arrogantly declined it. They
wanted to protect their political narrative, not their citizens. By August,
the pressure is too heavy to ignore, the administration quietly
allowed a high state patrol to handle traffic enforcement, claiming
it would free CPD to answer critical calls. It sounded
like progress, but it was a partial, face saving compromise.

(49:47):
The quote full package close quote was still off the
table because it would expose the depth of the crisis.
The city has worked so hard to downplay. In September,
they relented again, finally announcing they would accept the governor help.
What they didn't tell you was it really for two
days a month two Then this month they stretched it
to four, four days out of thirty four days to

(50:09):
fight a twenty four to seven problem. Mayor stated that
over the exaggerated violence in our city was more of
a perception than a reality. Even worse, the mayor and
city Council forced the Governor's office, you're gonna love this one.
I did not know this, and I trust signaled ninety
nine at her words, forced the Governor's office and multiple

(50:31):
state agencies to sit through a lecture from Iris Rowley,
the self opponented authority on the Collaborative Agreement, Roly, who
is not the director of the agreement because there is
no director, dictated what troopers and agents could and could
not do in Cincinnati, as if she held legal jurisdiction
over them. The Governor's office, trying to help, was forced
to tolerate this circus to avoid political backlash from city Hall.

(50:54):
It was humiliating, not for them, but for us, for
this city. Has now turned to his next political scapegoat
police Chief Theresa Thiji, after being ordered to juggle impossible directives,
appease political activists, keep crime's stats control, and protect confidence
amid chaos, the chief is being positioned for sacrifice. It's

(51:16):
the same cynical script blame the police when the politics collapse.
What City Cincinnati is witnessing isn't leadership, it's manipulation. Public
safety is being bartered for headlines. The mayor's office continues
to mislead the public, minimize the scale of the state's assistance,
and allow unelected consultants to hold sway over law enforcement.
The collaborative Agreement was never meant to become a political

(51:38):
weapon or a personal platform for self promotion. Yet here
we are watching a city and crisis defer to a
consultant while the governor's troopers stand down because Iris Roley
said so. Four days of help per month isn't a plan,
it's a pr stunt. And as the mayor scrambles to
protect his re election campaign by three growing Chiefdiji under

(52:01):
the bus, one truth remains clear. The violence continues, the
spin intensifies, and the people of Cincinnati are left to
fend for themselves while city Hall hides bodence talking points.
Signal ninety nine concludes, vote this mayor and city council
out of office next month, and the rest of the
trash will take care of itself, will take itself out.
We can start to heal as a city, clean up

(52:22):
our city and its neighborhoods. Utilize the federal courts to
start holding these violent criminals accountable, since so many of
our own county judges will not. It's just time. That's
the kind of thing you get from her all the time.
So if you're out there, signal, I appreciate your words.
I appreciate you standing on top of things. You are
a refreshing voice out there. Stick around. We're gonna hit

(52:42):
you fridaye to you. Starting off with the guests right now,
although I always consider callers guests as well. You're welcome
to call, but not right now because Dan Hills returns
former FOP president Dan Hills, putting his old FOP kind
of hat back on and giving us an analysis of
the lay of the landscape of the since a police
department relative to law enforcement downtown and will Chief Fiji
be fired? Sure sounded like it was going to happen yesterday.

(53:05):
Welcome back, Dan Hills. It's great having you on the show.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
All Brian, it's good to be back. I hope you're well.
Hope your health as well.

Speaker 4 (53:13):
Yeah, I'm doing really well. I appreciate you asking about that.
Thank you very much. Now, yes, sure, it looked like
calling Fiji back into town from her police chief conference
looked like the writing was on the wall, although there
was what I would call backpedaling if they had made
the decision to fire her. It has not happened yet,
But do you get the impression that Fiji's on thin

(53:34):
ice and it's just the shoe just hasn't dropped yet.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
Yeah, I mean that's obviously the thing bring her back
from Denver, which you know in something I have commentary
rights here, you know. I don't think going out of
town to a chief conference during this time of increased
scrutiny and the violence on the streets and all that
thing was probably the best the best picture to present

(53:59):
of the police department or her leadership.

Speaker 4 (54:02):
Well better that than well watching while the city burns.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
And it was I don't think it was a good idea.
But yeah, I didn't know where you were going to go.
If you just ask me, my opinion of the.

Speaker 4 (54:16):
Chiefs or well, that's a separate here.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
You're the host, I'll no, no.

Speaker 4 (54:21):
No, I think that's a completely separate issue, and it's
a worthy issue to address because you know, you still
stay in touch with active members since a law enforcement
I bet you have a pretty good idea about their
perception of whether Police Chief three Strategi's doing a good
job or not. I've had people tell me one way
or another, and I have my own perceptions along those lines.
But that's why we have you on the show. So
how she fares among the ranks is one thing. And

(54:44):
if we had the old system before this, you know,
issue five thing, the rank and file would decide whether
or not they wanted to cling to her correct.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
Yes, And I you know, issue five is a discussion
of its own And I was. I was, and to
Christopher Smotherman on there, and let's hope to god he
gets elected and Steve Gooden gets elected and there is
some change in some change of thought down at city Hall.
But that's what I guess I wanted to say about
the chief in my opinion, that she's more of a

(55:16):
symptom of a problem in a sense than the problem.
I think she's done a better job than I expected.
I don't make any secrets about it. I was not
supporting her. I was still the president when she got appointed.
I was pulling for Lisa Davis. And I was only
pulling for Lisa Davis because I was listening. I want
to say only, but I was mostly pulling for Lisa

(55:36):
Davis because that's what my cops are telling me. So
it was like, this is an easy one. I got
all these cops call me and saying, yeah, can you
get can you get anything done? And I remember being
disappointed in city at city Hall, namely Cheryl Long, because
she went on this last second tour of talking to
the cops when I knew she had already decided. I

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had a good source inside city Hall that said she
had ready to but then she heard the controversy that
was out there. I was putting it out there that
the cops far preferred Lisa Davis, who went on to
UH to be the chief in Austin, Texas.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
But just so I'm not.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
Here, you know, celebrating this trouble rating.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
I think that.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
Terry has done a better job than what I had expected.
Hansom downside, I guess anybody would and and and it's
easy to sit outside and be a critic and throw darts.
But you know again, I think the reason she got
the job as part of the the symptom of the disease,
and and that is you're far left activism within city

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Hall to the point where they hire somebody like Irish Rolli,
which we could talk about we will rest the show
right well, so you know, and so you hire somebody
like uh Terry Tigi who had gone in there and
willing to it down and and and play with Irish Rely.
Can you imagine uh uh back in the day you

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mentioned Striker or Smitherman mentioned Striker, that's the last guy
in their old system. Would he have would he have
paid attention to her or cared what she said?

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Ever?

Speaker 3 (57:16):
Hell only to criticize there is the only time he
would have spoke up in his mind. And even under
their new system of hiring and and and and keeping chiefs.
Can you imagine if James Craig would have.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
Had a deal with Iris Rely, you would have he
would have come.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
Out publicly and and uh and condemned her for the
dingaling that she is. So you know, you put somebody
into place and part of her marching orders and part
of what I assume I said, I don't know this
for a fact. Part of what she agreed to to
to get the appointment was that she would she would
play along with Iris and all that silliness that that

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that goes on with that.

Speaker 4 (57:50):
So you're illustrating the political reality that that job became
once the city manager and the mayor had the sole
power to hire and fire, then they really are at
the whim of the directive of the city manager and mayor.
If you don't follow my directive, you're going to lose
your job. So let's hold I'm just going to stop there.
That's my thought. We'll let you respond and we will
bring up virus role among other topics with Dan Hill's

(58:12):
former FOP president right let talk Station six on a
Thursday Bright timeAs with former FOP president Dan Hill talking
about the situation going in downtown Cincaia. He looks like
the chief TG's job me Figi's job may be on
the line, sort of speculation, wondering about back and forth.
Of course, exclusive control over her position held by mayor

(58:32):
Aftab Purvol and Sherry Long didn't used to be that way.
But now we have the involvement and that you mentioned
Iris Roli before and I wanted to see if you
have confirmation on something I read from our friend Signal
ninety nine. I think she is at least a former,
if not current, police officer, but she's always standing up
on these issues. So follow her on Facebook. She said,
with regard to the Governor's office and him providing the

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state agency resources that Mayor aftab Purvol took a little
bit of she gave them a lecture, and I just
I can read the quote here even worst Mayrin City
Council force the Governor's office, multiple state agencies to sit
through a lecture from Iris Rowley fast forward a little bit.
Not the director of the collaborative agreement because there isn't one,
but dictated to the troopers what the agents could and

(59:16):
could not do in the city of Cincinnati. Did she
really do that? Did she did she speak to all
the officers that were coming in from the from the state.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
You know, I don't have confirmation of that, and that
might be a little bit of the difference between me
and ninety nine. I think that we comment on a
lot of the same things, and where you obviously have
the same political feelings as those she's got Right now
at this stage of my life, she's got more sources
than I do, and she's definitely working at her page

(59:50):
and stuff harder than I work mine. But I'll say this,
it sounds likely to me because that's the way that
things work in the city, which brings me around full
circle to where do you go next? And I think
it to hear Cobra if he was on this morning,
but I did. I did read this statement that they
put out, uh saying that you know that the police

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chief isn't the problem, which is kind of what I'm
doubling down on. But but my thing is, where do
you go next? How can you get a quality person
in here to be the police chief when you still
have Irish Rolli on your payroll?

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
And they they I.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
Think they actually believe that Irish.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
Roly has like a.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
Riot button in her den or something that she can
push a button and cause a riot, and that's why
they bow to her. And I don't think she has
that much power. I think the only power she has
is the power they give her. So I mean, it's
it's insanity on top of insanity. You you have a
law and order problem. Do you hire somebody that is
an anti law order person to go up to go

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out and and rile up the masses from time to time?
And it's it's almost like an alternate reality. It's hard
to believe that the city does that, that they hire
this lady and that you know, the only reason that
I think they could is because again they think that
she has the power to uh let loose uh you know,

(01:01:13):
all the all the use and cause and cause some
sort of commotion. And I don't think I don't think
that she has that power. So yes, I can see
her speaking to the troopers and stuff. Enough I was
the troopers or the commander of the camp the troopers,
I would I would get all my people up and say,
let's go we listen to this this malarkey. We're down
here to help the city with a crime problem. Not listen, uh,

(01:01:36):
not listen to her. So that's the that's the back
to the symptom rather than the disease. They they they
they only are going to appoint somebody. And I think
that's part of what cover statement that I want to
double down on us is the chief isn't the problem?
You know, I can like I said, I can sit
there and nitpick a couple of things, and I could

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also compliment a couple of things. But the problem started
because I think she agreed to be their yes person.

Speaker 4 (01:02:05):
Right, Okay, Okay. Then she got the job for agreeing
to be a yes person for a woke pretty much
anti police administration, a rethink the police administration, or a
defund the police administration. I think Iris Rollie was part
of that entire movement. So you, I think, in defending
your you're also pointing out a criticism. A strong chief

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who knows how to conduct law enforcement, how to manage
police resources, would stand in defiance to a directive that
was counter to what her perception of proper law enforcement is. Okay, Yeah,
I was appointed by the city manager and mayor. I
know they want to go this direction, but I think
it's bad for the city for the following reasons. She
runs the risk of losing your job for you know,
rejecting something that they told her. But it would show

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that she is independent and of thought, of mind, and
independent of you know, the direction the police need to go.
So I think that's true. She's not She's not.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
She's not She's not independent I think she was Chryl
Long's girl from the get go. I mean, look, I
was pulling for Lisa Davis, somebody that I don't necessarily
hang out with politically, shall I say? She is a
friend and I and I thought she was a better
natural leader. And you know that's and and again, I

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think I think Terry is a nice person. I think
she's very smart and qualified, but she doesn't have that
whatever it is that that that certain leaders had that
get people to fall where I thought Lisa had more
of that. Lisa politically and I are are are our
world's apart. But I just thought that she she would

(01:03:43):
be more of that natural leader. And I also think
Lisa has stood up to him on some different things
that made her not not their pick. And so until
you fix the system, and this is where you know,
like I said, double amount of look over said with
issue five, and mister Spiderman said, until double down on
the system, change the system, then then then nothing's going

(01:04:05):
to get better. And I don't think you're going to
get anybody of any quality, at least not from outside
of the agency to come in and an inside I
don't know either if they're going to get somebody that's
very interested in this because you you either have to
compromise yourself or risk risk risk risk what is might

(01:04:27):
might or likely happen to terry.

Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
Something that this issue five created. It highly politicized the
job and tied the hands of the police chief in
the city of Cincinnati. Ken, let's stop and we'll bring
you back and get a couple of final words on
the Dan. I'm sorry, I was thinking that I was
looking up my interview with uh with Ken was on
the fourteenth. You can go to fifty five KRC dot
com check of the podcast that I was searching for

(01:04:52):
that since you brought him up in my conversation earlier
in this week one more with kr CB talk station.
He Riday he ring with Thomas with FOP former FFP
president Dan Hills. Dan, obviously, I think everyone can. Everyone
can all political stripes can agree that may have to
had pur Ball in a reactive mode. Wasn't out getting

(01:05:12):
in front of crime issues. Crimes I guess has started building.
We've got a societal breakdown problem, regardless of the genesis
of it. His answer to it has been only to
recently create and enforce the curfew. Now he's extended the
hours of the curfew. But the curfew it is what
it is. It's only a forced in certain neighborhoods. And

(01:05:33):
I kind of scratched my head and wonder about it.
There's fifty two neighborhoods in the city. What about the
other neighborhoods where the curfew doesn't exist. I know they
have crime problems there, but also the idea of putting
swat and other police resources on Fountain Square at least
at a larger presence until ten pm, I thought all
the crap hit the fan. I know it happens during

(01:05:55):
the day, but a lot of the criminal activity takes
place after ten pm. So I just wanted your reaction
to his most recent reactive efforts to deal with crime.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
But you know, you just you just sat right there.
Reacting is never as good as being proactive, you know.
But also, I'm gonna I'm going to say the same
thing you've kind of said too, that the country and
the big parts of the community are in a speech, spiritual,
and cultural crisis. I mean, that's that's beyond the mayor's control,

(01:06:27):
the chiefs control, and everybody else. It's and and then
the next step down is the state doesn't have enough
prison space for all the thuggery that needs to go
to jail and stay in jail. And I don't know,
if you know, taxpayers up here in Moren County and
everybody else are necessarily going to want end on what
it would take to house all the bad guys that

(01:06:48):
we have in this state. And so this, you know,
there's there's a problem there. The county judges, Oh my gosh,
you've covered that all the time. And ninety you talked
about ninety nine. She likes to she likes to bring
up in detail the insanity that you have accounting judges.
So you have all that, and then so what do
you do. You get reactive because there's stuff beyond your
control and like to swat the CDRT stuff. All that

(01:07:12):
is doing is Robin Peter to pay Paul. You know,
most of our SWAT members are CDR Team members. They're
all in different assignments, and a whole lot of those
assignments are patrol people and districts two, three, and four,
And so now you're you're bringing them down.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
Well that you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
Can't be two places at one time, right, and you
can only work so much over time, and still be effective.
So while I agree if I was, if I was
the chief, or if Joe Strucker was the chief and
I was advising, because I don't want to be your chief,
but if I were there, I understand wanting to have

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those central business districts feel and be one hundred percent safe,
and the best way you can do that is to
occupy with an occupy an army.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
If you would.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
Back to the one hundred and fifty to two hundred
cops that were short, maybe we even need to reconsider
the complement of cops. But that takes us back to
who wants to come work here. Been harder to get
people to come to a police department a city that
hires Irish role And one of my favorite topics in
my years there the CCA, which is an anti police organization.

(01:08:21):
So we're paying, we're paying tax dollars to have people
that go out there and handicap the police department. I
don't know how many times I can use the word
insane in a single guest appearance on your show, Brian
to where you get tire, you got to come up,
you got to come up with some different terms there, Dan,
But it's insane. I mean it is insane that to

(01:08:43):
have the CCA and have it operate like it does.
It's insane to have Irish Roly and have her on
the payroll. And so then you end up getting reactive
and doing stuff like working people after death to have
presence in your central business district that you should have. Anyway,
if you had the proper number of cops. What's that
proper number, I don't know. I would I would say,

(01:09:06):
you know, it might be approaching like fourteen hundred cops
or something that you would like to have in a
city this size with the crime problems that it has
and the people that come into here for business and entertainment.
So you can't just go, oh, look, you know, we're
about the same size as you know, Salt Lake City
or whatever. I don't know, any think about the size

(01:09:26):
of Salt Lake City if they have a totally different
demographic and crime problem and don't have professional teams and
all the other stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
We need more cops. You know.

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
We can't control the spiritual and cultural crisis that's in
this country and in our communities. We can't control what's
going on as a state. The one thing we can
do is we can have more cops. And that's not
the chief problem, at least not alone. The city halls
problem that they haven't gone out there and been the

(01:09:58):
city that people want to come and work for and
then go and get the people that you need to
have that presence to do the best you can under
really bad circumstances here in the country.

Speaker 4 (01:10:09):
Nop've been complaining about the lack of police office for
a long time. Pervall even said he wants to increase
the compliment. But the big hurdle here is getting the
bodies to apply. Whether they're going through an academy class
from start or they're a lateral hire. You got to
have well the dangling carrots have incentive to fro an
officer want to move over here in the city of Cincinnati,
And you pointed out a number of problems and challenges
we all face in that regard. I certainly appreciate Dan

(01:10:32):
Hillsy coming on the program today. It's been a great conversation.
Keep up the great work, and I knew you and
i'd be talking again soon. I hope take care of
my friend.

Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
Looking forward to it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:41):
Brian take care five six fifty six fifty five Krcitytoxication
Congressman Warren seven oh six a bitch five kr cdtalk station.
Appreciate tuning at the fifty five Parase Morning Show. And
I'm glad you're here because listening right now because I
have Congressman Warren Davidson return into the program. Got some
issues to go over him, don't we. Congressman Davidson, welcome back,

(01:11:04):
my friend. It's a pleasure having you on the show.

Speaker 7 (01:11:07):
Always an honor, and there's plenty going on. Nice to
talk with you, Brian.

Speaker 4 (01:11:10):
So you're still on recess.

Speaker 7 (01:11:11):
Correct, Well, you know it's hard to call it that.
It's a shutdown. So you know, we're just trying to
make lemonade out of the lemons that Democrats are handing
out here. Look, how did we get here? Look, Republicans said, Look,
we haven't agreed to fund the government the way that
we want to as the majority party. So let's just

(01:11:33):
call a truce and we'll pass a continuing resolution the
funds of the government at status quo levels, which is
the same thing that Democrats voted for when they had
the majority in the Senate and controlled the White House,
and it's the same thing they voted for in March
to keep the government funded for now, So we haven't
passed a true Republican funding priority right now. We did

(01:11:53):
change mandatory spending and we did, you know, do recisions,
and that's part of what's in their build. They want
to undo the things that we did with our majority,
and then they want to double down and add new
spending stuff that they added when they were in the
majority but got no Republican votes. And as a condition
of opening the government, they were one and a half
trillion dollars worth of funding priorities, and they were kind

(01:12:14):
enough to list it out in writing. I mean, some
of the stuff's crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:12:18):
Well, I couldn't agree with you more. That's the setup
for the shutdown, and I you know, ownership of the shutdown.
I hate this argument who gets blamed for it among
the American people. But let me just this. You mentioned
we can turn lemonade out of the lemons that we
were dealt with here, and one of those things might
be firing a bunch of people. And so I have
to ask you this because it was just the other

(01:12:39):
day that a federal judge put an injunction on holding
these firings, granting a temporary straining order blocking the job cuts,
saying that the judge herself believes the ad evidence would
ultimately show that the cuts are illegal and in access
of Donald Trump's authority. So I'm thinking about that, under
what circumstance can one of these people be fired? Is

(01:12:59):
it always for cause? Or here's a better question. I
look and I see Nessley is slashing sixteen thousand jobs
private company. They're slashing it in order to bring about
greater efficiency and greater profit. If Donald Trump does that,
because we have a government that is way too damn big,
is it a political decision to right size the government

(01:13:20):
get rid of the excess the phrase of the doubling
down of efforts by various different agencies within the government
that all seem to be working toward the same goal.
Can't this be used as an opportunity to streamline the
government for the benefit of the American taxpayer. That's not
a political motivation. It's a financial motivation, is it not?

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:13:42):
And look fair enough. You know Democrats might feel like
an agency that we feel is is it serving its purpose?

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
They might agree that.

Speaker 7 (01:13:50):
They might think, oh, this is doing great things. You know,
we created this back in the thirties when FDR was president,
and so it must always exist. And it's like having
a starting pitch. Sure that, Okay, you've done a nice job,
but we're going down to the bullpen.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
You know, congrats.

Speaker 7 (01:14:05):
You don't have to be mean about it and say, hey,
thanks for your service, but it's time to move on.
And that's the kind of thing that we have with
a lot of our government structures, things that have served
their purpose and aren't doing it well. I mean, one
example is of the United Nations. You know, they were
created in the wake of World War two to promote peace.
They don't do a good job of promoting peace. We're

(01:14:25):
funding them within the borders of our own country, and
what we find they're doing with some of the money
is giving money to fuel this invasion of our country
of illegals. Now they want to put on a carbon tax,
all kinds of crazy stuff that they're doing to undermine
our own sovereignty. You look at the European Union, that
was also a vision to kind of create peace amongst

(01:14:46):
the European countries. They're facilitating an invasion of Europe of
all these you know migrants, and a lot of them
are from Muslim countries. You know that none of these
guys migrate to Muslim countries. They're not like flooding Saudi Arabia.
They're flooding Europe. And look, Europe can do what they
want to with Europe, but they're asking us to pull
security for them with NATO, so we're pouring all of

(01:15:08):
our dollars over there. And meanwhile you've got people leaving
the United Kingdom, leaving France, leaving Germany, going to places
like Hungary to claim asylum so they won't get put
in jail for posting amme. I mean, it's crazy world
that we're in right now.

Speaker 4 (01:15:23):
It is, and you know, to that point, in a
variety of other points, Europe has drifted into something that
we normally reject politically, socialism, you know, at the wide
open borders, the disruption of cultural norms and societal norms,
all that. I guess part of me wants to know
why we still consider them allies to a certain degree.

(01:15:43):
I mean, we're funding their police force. In essence, our
American military has provided them defense now since World War Two.
Donald Trump's taking great steps to force them to actually
protect and defend themselves. Help me, help you, basically, says
Donald Trump. So I guess this connection with Western Europe.
I don't really think it is what it used to be.

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Congressman Davidson, Well.

Speaker 7 (01:16:07):
Here's the thing. I mean, we used to have bipartisan
kind of view of foreign affairs a lot of times
in the country. But now Democrats that Democrats are essentially
the leadership of the European Union. I mean, they have
the same objectives and they want to do to America
what they're doing to Europe. And California. I mean, Gavin
Newsom wants to be our next president, and you're looking

(01:16:27):
at let's check the results here, buddy. No, you've wrecked
your country, You've wrecked your state. We certainly don't want
you to come do that to America and stay the
heck out of Ohio. So, I mean, this is the
kind of thing, and it's all in their list. I mean,
if you look at the funding that Chuck Schumer lists
out to say hey, we want one and a half

(01:16:48):
trillion dollars of new spending or restored spending, they're basically saying, hey,
we want to keep giving health care to illegals. We
want to take the fifty billion dollar fund that Republicans
gave to rural hospitals, and we want to turn that off.
We'll think of the crazy thing there. We're going to
take your money and give it to illegal aliens. And
then we have rural hospitals and you know, vast parts

(01:17:10):
of America that okay, not the heaviest population, you're going
to take that money and give even more of it
to illegals. I mean, some of the stuff that they're
talking about with healthcare that they want to do aside
from the illegals is really.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
COVID plus ups.

Speaker 7 (01:17:26):
We gave we had a pandemic, we plused up money
for COVID, right, And they're like, oh, well you can't
turn that off. Well, pandemics over why wouldn't we turn
it off?

Speaker 4 (01:17:36):
Well? And that bill that had the expiration data, and
it was written by the Democrat's own hand, they're the
ones that put the cutoff data in there. They're the
ones that voted for that, and lo and behold, the
date's coming. And so they want to extend it. Like
every other government program, once it's alive and in operation,
it can never ever go away. That's their position on
these tax credits.

Speaker 7 (01:17:56):
Yeah, which brings us back to Trump's and eliminade business.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
Right.

Speaker 7 (01:18:00):
Hey, we said keep the government open. You're not keeping
it open. We get a certain amount of cash in
the vaults, so we're gonna make sure we do things
like pay our troops. We're going to operate the Fund
for Women and Infant Children, you know, the WICK program
out there that gives baby formula and diapers to new
mothers that are needy. And Democrats are threatening to sue

(01:18:22):
the Trump administration. Thus the judge you're referencing to say, well,
you can't do that. It's not legal for you to
fund the troops. It's not legal for you to give
money to needy mothers. I think how far off course
Democrats are with where they're at. They're like, well, if
Trump's for it, it must be bad. You're like, you
guys need to pull up and check what you're doing here.
And they're just way at a sink. And I think

(01:18:44):
eventually they're gonna get pressure from the public to say
knock it off unless get the government open and get
things underway. But in the meantime, I think the Trump
administras is gonna do exactly what you said. They're gonna
right size it. They're gonna get it to say, yeah,
this over here doesn't even function right anymore, and they
put all that stuff in a budget. Generally, Congress, even
when it's our own party, ignores the White House budget

(01:19:06):
and just keeps the status quo going. But here's a
chance for us to break from it. Who knows, maybe
when Republicans come back in. We've got a majority in
the House. Technically there's a bipartisan majority in the Senate.
Democrats have joined with Republicans in the Senate, they got
up to fifty six. I think they're down to fifty
one senators. I don't know who's present and who's as in,

(01:19:27):
but they've they've voted like nine times in the Senate.
They've always had a majority to keep the government open.
But their rules in the Senate say sixty. I mean,
that's one of the things we could do is just
to quote nuclear option on funding and then we'll just
pass Republican priorities. I don't know if that's where it leads,
but in the meantime, lemonade.

Speaker 4 (01:19:46):
There you go. And there's always a question of you know,
there is a potential for a change in administration. If
you give this nuclear option to go, it's going to
exist for the next administration. And God knows what that
might lead to. Congressman Warren Davidson, let's pause. I have
one question to ask you about the UN, since you
brought up the carbon tax, but I also want to
pivot over to the situation unfolded. Brother dre Andre un

(01:20:09):
comeing up the bottom of the hour on the police
chief threes a thigi thing, the violence of downten cents,
and he outspoken. He is follow him online and Congressman
Warren Davids is on the program right now, and thank
you for your service for our country. I was pleased
to see at least Donald Trump is making sure the
troops are going to get paid. Obviously a huge support
of America's military, am I and I know that it's
near and dear topic to your heart, But that's only

(01:20:31):
gonna be a temporary fix. We got to get the
government back open. But since you mentioned the UN, and
I've obviously profound disappointment and are even involving ourselves with
the UN because it doesn't seem to be able to
accomplish anything. But they did come out with this proposal
to start levying global taxes on countries in the name
of I don't know, global warming or whatever. I just
have a simple question. Assuming I'm president of the United

(01:20:53):
States of America, and I have two words for the
UN in holding its hand out and asking me to
write a check. I got two words. Date happy birthday.
As my dad would say, How can they force us
or any other country to pay anything? What if the
collective world just said, you know what, screw you. You
don't have any authority to collect at tax from us?

Speaker 7 (01:21:11):
Yeah, I mean I think that's exactly what's going to happen.
We're not going to pay at tax to them. No
one owes them attacks. They have no authority to collect
at tax. But this is the kind of stuff that
they're over there working on with. I mean, they're essentially
a charitable organization funded by governments from all over the world,
and they send people there to, you know, essentially trample

(01:21:33):
on American sovereignty. And yeah, if you're anti American, you
could go, yeah, hwan's great. It's helping us undermine our adversaries.
But if you're in the United States or one of
our allies, you're like, what are you guys doing again?
I mean, what have they done that's productive? If you
look up and say, in the last fifty years, What
are the highlight reel out of the UN? And I

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can't find any?

Speaker 4 (01:21:57):
Well, you know what wasn't the theories behind even establishing
or creating a UN following the failure that was the
League of Nation sort of create a peaceful world for
us all to live in. Where the hell was the
UN when Donald Trump was negotiating peace with the Israelis
in the Hamas members well.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
Or any other any other.

Speaker 7 (01:22:16):
Yeah, when's the last time?

Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
When's the last?

Speaker 7 (01:22:18):
I mean, they're not doing it, and they're not getting results,
and they're not even helping the people that are doing it.
In fact, often they're undermining. And that's I thought the
Donald Trump's UN speech was great. I mean I just
laid it out. I was like, yeah, uh, you know
the eight places that we negotiated peace, I didn't even
get a phone call.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
Yeah, they got no.

Speaker 7 (01:22:37):
Help at all, nothing whatsoever from the group that's actually
supposed to be doing this right, and they haven't produced it.
And when you find out, look, what has what is Hama?
What has Hamas got to do with the peace in
the UN? Well, the UN was funding UNRA, which was
supposed to help with refugees, and they were actively enabling Hamas.

(01:22:58):
I mean, these are the kinds of things where the
UN has actually been co opted to undermine peace, not
to promote it.

Speaker 4 (01:23:05):
So my suspicion has always been the only reason we
remain in the UN, considering its ongoing efforts to undermine
everything that we stand for. It's a base of operations
for the CIA to gather intelligence from these various countries
around the world. Am I right? Am I wrong? You
think I'm close? It sounds plausible, Yeah, okay, plausible is
good enough from a Congressman Arn Davidson who has security clearances.

(01:23:28):
All right. Moving over to the situation in Gaza, it
sounds like, I mean, a glorious day. The hostages were release.
The world celebrated that the bullets weren't flying. But the
devil's always in the details, as I wanted, I'm prone
to saying all the time. And I read this morning
and yesterday in the day before the Hamas people are
going around and gunning down Palestinians, those that they claim

(01:23:53):
we're working in cooperation with the Israelis or at least
incoordinated effort to undermine Hamas. They're slaughtering their own people.
Donald Trump has said they have to disarm, and I
would think disarmament would mean taking away the AK forty
seven's used to well murder members of Palestinian people. But
is this going to last? Do you get a sense
that this is actually going to take hold? Is this

(01:24:13):
just the last gasp of Hamas getting it out of
its system before it's completely thrown out?

Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:24:20):
Now, look, there was not a total victory here, so
you know, this was not an unconditional surrender by Hamas.
It was essentially a negotiated settlement.

Speaker 3 (01:24:29):
Short of that.

Speaker 7 (01:24:30):
So a lot of the Hamas military, the leadership that
remained alive, but a lot of them were killed by Israel.
But the remnant is now converting themselves into a quote
police force. And what are they doing with their policing. Well,
it's not like you know, our Bill of Rights or anything.

(01:24:51):
They're just saying, look, these guys are anti Hamas and
they're open to working with Israel, and they want to
guy that isn't governed by by us Hamas. So they
get a bullet. There's no trial, there's no like, uh,
you know, let's let's have a poll. Let's let's go
have a election day and select leadership. Uh, there's there's

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none of that in Gaza. And the only way it's
going to get into Gaza is if it's imposed. And
Benjamin Netanya, who is in the act of imposing it.
So uh, you know, unfortunately, war is horrible, uh and
you know, and for good reason. I mean you're killing
people and destroying things. I mean it's a terrible uh

(01:25:34):
state for humans to get to a war. Middle East,
that's they've seen an awful lot of it. But I
don't know how you reconcile.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (01:25:43):
You know, people that want literally they're raised their kids
from cradle to grave, death to Israel, death to America,
you know, from the river to the sea. You know,
all this mindset of just kill, kill, kill because we
disagree with these people, and it isn't.

Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
Going to happen overnight.

Speaker 7 (01:26:01):
So we've got progress and hopefully some of the people
that are anti Hamas and anti terror will take control
of their own affairs. I mean, that's the only way
they're going to be a little to live in peace.

Speaker 4 (01:26:15):
Well, and I think that's something the Middle East countries
that surround the area, you know, Saudi Arabia, Cutter and others,
some who have already entered into the Abraham Peace Accords.
I think they realize that threat threatens their existence. They
finally have come around to the realization that playing nice
with terrorist organizations is indeed an existential threat to their
own governments, in their own countries existence. You got any

(01:26:37):
comment on that before we part company, Congressman Davidson.

Speaker 7 (01:26:40):
Yeah, that's exactly the framework. I mean, President Trump did
a great job of building alliances with the Air of nations.
I mean Cutter, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and others were there
celebrating the signing of this peace agreement, and they've committed
to be part of rebuilding Gaza. So, you know, the
hope is that with their influence, they can show look,
you can be you know, Muslim and not hostile, like

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you can live in peace. It doesn't have to be
this endless jihad is the only path to be Muslim.
And there are Muslim countries where they've lived in pretty good,
peaceful situations and they're you know, kudos to NBS in
Saudi Arabia. They're modernizing their country in a lot of ways.
If you look at Dubai, they're doing things that are

(01:27:30):
blending modern world with their faith, and you know, Hey,
that's what they should do. I mean, you know, I
believe they should follow Jesus, but I'm not going to
go kill them for it. Right, they believe I should
follow Mohammed. Hopefully they'll get to the people that feel
like they should just kill us as infidels over that
and say, you know, we can agree to disagree on that. Yeah,
and if they can, you know, maybe we can have

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some peace over there.

Speaker 4 (01:27:52):
There. You go, proselytize, make your argument, and we'll all
draw our own conclusions about which direction we want to go. Davidson,
thank you for your service to our country in your
in your service in the military, as your service as
a representative, and thank you to the voters who put
you in office. You do a great job. And I'm
thank thanking you especially for your willingness to come on
and talk about these issues with my listeners and me,

(01:28:13):
my friend, have a wonderful day, keep your fingers crossed,
and we'll hope for better times moving forward. I'd care
to see the talk station k S talk station. I
was going to say, Brian Thomas happy to have in
studio brother dre Andre Ewing with comments about what's going
on in downtown Cincinnati. He was in traffic a little bit.

(01:28:33):
He was front of moll Or High School, which means
he will be on here or he is on his way.
But because he's stopping in the studio, just going to
do a couple of local stories here and we'll bring
in brother Dre in the next segment, because I feel
pretty confident he will have arrived by them. So here
we go. Identity the person killed in a hit and
run in Butler County earlier on Saturday. They've been released.

(01:28:54):
Butler kind of Corner's Office said the call report of
the person was hit by a white van traveling eastbound
on Riley Millville Road near Woodbine about six o'clock in
the morning. Deputy shot there. They found Corey mcquitty, twenty
three years old, dead in the road. That's for the coroner.
He said that mcquitty's cause of death was multiple traumatic
inn injuries. The white van is believed to have fled

(01:29:17):
the scene. Ergo. If you have any information, Deputys and
Warren County want to hear from you, Specifically Stargeant Stephen Poff.
Sergeant Pop can be reached at five one, three seven
eight five twelve eighteen residents on Reading Road calling for
urgent safety measures. This after a series of crashes at

(01:29:39):
the intersection of Reading and Goalbirth local property under there.
Interviewed by Local twelve Donlykins called the road a race track,
vehicles often exceeding the twenty five mile an hour speed limit.
He's witnessed at least one crash per month, so he's
advocating four what do you think speed bumps out? Department

(01:29:59):
of Transportation reports that fifteen thousand motorists use Retting Road
on a daily basis. One hundred and twenty crashes resulting
in injuries happened between twenty twenty twenty twenty four. Internadministrator
Safety Services Director Patrick Ross said that Renting Road has
been selected as a heavy traffic safety corridor by o
DOT initiative part of a pilot speed study which is

(01:30:20):
seeking to reduce vehicle speeds to the posted twenty five
mile per hour limit. City of Cincinnati collaborating with ODOT
on a three point two million dollar project paid for
by the state. Was Stage one, expected to be in October.
No idea what stage two is, but Stage three is,
of course profit. Proposed changes include reducing lanes, improving crosswalks,

(01:30:41):
raising medians it remains unserved with speed humps will be
part of the final design. So slowing things down because
people are well idiots when it comes to driving through
twenty five mile hour persons going like fifty. So without
that will pause from Roman andre Ewing in the house
and beyond the program next that you can stick our
get some motor egged and happy Friday Eve in the house. Man.

(01:31:04):
I'm telling you this guy gets me, Rile that he
gets me shouting at the computer and doing high fives
when no one's in the room when I'm watching what
he has to say. Andre Ewing, Curse Breakers three hundred.
He can explain to you about that again. But welcome back, Andrea.
You are an outspoken i'll say, critic, but not always critic.
You praise stuff that's good and you attack things politically

(01:31:26):
that are bad. Retired police officer, you had thirty years
of police a service under your belt, right, Yes, sir,
you've seen it all. Yes you remember the days before
issue five and you obviously there were problems. You can
even mention that if you choose to, it wasn't a
perfect system back then. I know a lot of police
officers weren't thrilled with Chief Tom Striker being police chief.
And you know, but now we have it completely politicized.

(01:31:49):
And of course the conversation brought up because a lot
of rumors swirling around the police chief. Thiji's job was
on the line. She got hauled back from her police
convention conference and sort of why did she go in
the middle of all this chaos is a question. But
at least she wasn't well watching when it all hit
the fan. So, but it's become politicized. Mayor, I have

(01:32:09):
to have purvall the city manager have total control over
who gets hired and who gets fired. And a lot
of suggestions, I know you were listening to Dan Hills
this morning, that that creates this sort of capitulation someone
who could be a strong leader, someone who might have
great ideas about policing and might run a foul of
what Pervoll and the manager and the city manager want,
which means their jobs on the line if they disagree.

(01:32:31):
That is not a good view from my standpoint, And
here we find ourselves today a lot of crime in downtown.
Have to have Parvoll, with his election on the line,
doing a lot of things, or at least paying lip
service to it. But now we've got this wrinkle in
the thing about maybe Chief Fiji's going to lose her job.
Is any of this her fault? Andre Ewing, welcome back, man, Hey.

Speaker 11 (01:32:50):
I appreciate it, brother Brian. It's always a pleasure. I
want to give a shout out to my wife, Danielle Ewing,
who's a police officer as will and also a breast
cancer survived, so having breast Cancer Awareness month. Just want
to talk to all my survivors and your thrivers so
we love you and keep fighting.

Speaker 4 (01:33:07):
And then thank you very much for bringing that up.

Speaker 11 (01:33:09):
Absolutely, let's get down to the truth, brother Brian, because
I'm not gonna water it down. I've always said that
Fiji has no business being the chief.

Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
Now.

Speaker 11 (01:33:20):
Now, Dan Hills was on the show talking about she
did better than what I thought? What is better than? Okay,
we clearly said that Lisa Davis was the better choice.
And what rings in my mind is December tenth, twenty
twenty two. That rings in my mind. Why because Cheryl
Long and Scottie Johnson walked into District two and started

(01:33:43):
to ask us questions, what chief do we want? And
it's interesting because I've been on your show before and
overwhelmingly we told the city manager, do not place Terretha
Thiji out of chief position. And it was almost like
we were begging her overwhelmingly one hundred percent in the room,

(01:34:04):
and they did an assessment and overwhelmingly you heard even
Dan Hill say, yeah, we weren't for Thiji. It was overwhelmingly,
and you still chose somebody that everybody said do not do.
So I'm not gonna just say Thiji should go once again,
having a convention out of town during all this telling

(01:34:26):
chiefs what what not to do and how to talk
to criminals to just behave This is absolutely ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (01:34:33):
You know, it's revealing of a pattern because as you
were talking about that, who is most I mean, the
city residents obviously impacted by who's running the police department,
but that's one thing. But she is there to keep
the police department organized, to hire and fire the right people,
to give promotions to hopefully the merit based right people,

(01:34:55):
et cetera, et cetera. So you're most impacted as a
police officer. Overwhelming support for someone other than tig That
sounds remarkably like the city council and this mayor's treatment
of the residents of Hyde Park who were overwhelmingly against
that damn development project so much so that they got
it on the ballot to have it repealed. That's what
forced the city to capitulate in this particular case. Doesn't

(01:35:16):
sound like the city is capitulating anything. They're like, okay,
you want that police chief. Sorry, screw you, guys, We're
going with DG anyway.

Speaker 11 (01:35:23):
Correct, which is ridiculous. That's why Sheryl Loan cannot get
off the hook. And what makes her a specialist in
picking and choosing the right police chief? What skills does
she have to disregard an entire police force? And how
do you just get that power from individuals who have
no experience in policing. And we see the results of

(01:35:44):
that decision. And so it's interesting because Fiji is collateral
damage being placed in a position that it was really Hey, Chief,
we're begging you, don't take it because you're not ready.
You're being set up by a highly political process. And
this is the results of leadership. That's why I said

(01:36:05):
Aftab needs to go, Sheryl Long needs to go as
well as Chief and Iris Rowley because we keep hearing
about this collaborative agreement. Will somebody, a professional attorney sit
down and really break down this entire process because you
hear it so much. It's it's a document that we

(01:36:26):
need to know what exactly is in those documents that
appears to be that IRIS has so much power in
this situation, and we will.

Speaker 4 (01:36:37):
Bring that topic back up. We're bumping up against the
break here. Andre a Ewing brother Dre. You can find
him online. He's going to revamp his Facebook pagees currently
it's under a Ewing. I follow him. You gotta watch
his weekly videos. They are you'll find yourself high fiving
no one in the room while he's talking about it.
Forty five fifty five The Doug zasion quickly mentioned for

(01:36:57):
in exchange. Because you want to save everydy should if
I had KARS the talk station seven nine here fifty
five krc DE talk station. Andre. You check him out
on Facebook. I recommend you checking out what he has
to say each and every week. Outspoken observer, critic, sometimes

(01:37:20):
sometimes supporter, but things going on in the city of Cincinnati,
bringing his thirty years of law enforcement experience and observations
and never pulling any punches on it. So check him out.
You said you're going to rename your page at some point, Andre, Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:37:35):
Sir, it's going to be under a Curse Breakers three
hundred right now, cars Breakers three hundred dash Brother Dre
is going to be revamped. But it definitely Brother Dre
and Curse Breakers three hundred.

Speaker 4 (01:37:46):
So definitely let you know, all right, and you'd be
doing the same thing even under the different all right, yes,
because I would hate if that weren't away. Absolutely Back
to Iris rol you're talking met You've never personally seen
the collaborative agreement? Are you suggesting? Is it's kind of
like a hidden document. It's not like I can't search
for the SENSEI Collaborative Agreement and come up with a
full page PDF for the whole thing.

Speaker 11 (01:38:06):
And it's interesting because nobody seems to know the heart
of the collaborative agreement. The mayor has thrown it around
a lot in the debate. He threw it up, And
so what needs to happen to the citizens of Cincinnati
since it's being brought up and Iris Rollie's name is
being brought up presented to the city, read verbatim the

(01:38:27):
structure and the importance of it. Now we do understand
that from the Tim Thomas murder, from the police officer
and the issues that occurred there, that the collaborative Agreement
was started and the profiling that officers were doing, so
it was needed. But now here we are it was refreshed.

(01:38:48):
What exactly is in there? Because I'm tired of hearing
about it and tired of hearing that she's at the
table dictating what rules are in or not. So will
somebody show up verbatim and that should come from the
chief or city manager or mayor, since you're referring to
it but showing us no facts of her position dealing

(01:39:08):
with this all right?

Speaker 4 (01:39:09):
And I had read Signal ninety nine's post, and there
was a reference in there that Iris Roly did do
a presentation to law enforcement officials and other services that
the governor offered. So before you come here to work
for two days a week, maybe now four days a week,
you got to listen to a sermon by Iris Roley.
I'm boiling down what she said, but presumably I can

(01:39:32):
imagine since she was there for the creation of and
was an integral part of establishing the collaborative Agreement, that
she doesn't know what's in it. But is it everybody's
understanding that she was telling the officers and officials what's
in there and what they have to do by way
of how to conduct their policing activities in the city,
or was she providing her own version of it, because

(01:39:53):
that's where the wording in the collaborative Agreement is so
damn important. Question number two and I think you know
the answer to this or can guess it. Is there
anything in the collaborate Agreement that allows for the designation
of a pope or an i mom or a grand
Pooba of the collaborative agreement? How did she land in
that role as a highly paid consultant going around telling

(01:40:14):
people how to do things?

Speaker 2 (01:40:15):
And you know what?

Speaker 11 (01:40:16):
Those are the mystery questions that need to be answered
to find out exactly what is her position as you see,
it never was told to us even after everything occurred.
And seeing this is where a Chief Thiji is a
problem as well, because you haven't spoken out even when
she was out harassing officers, So what exactly is happening?

(01:40:39):
No one actually came forward to present and say this
is a problem. So until we actually know under what
power she has, this is constantly going to be confused.
She can address it to the osp and say we
want you to follow this collaborative agreement and resources say
that there was a memorandum that they had to sign
and follow, But what are you following? And that is

(01:41:03):
the question that the citizens and taxpayers need to know.

Speaker 4 (01:41:06):
That's an excellent observation, all right. Pivoting over to something
the mayor seems to want to embrace, and I know
Cranleigh was wanted to embrace the idea of hiring more
police officers. Were down a couple of hundred more taking
early drop. I mean, they're not even sticking out the
entire drop program. They're just washing their hands up and saying,
I'm out senior officers losing experience, and we don't have

(01:41:29):
enough younger officers fill in the rank. So this concept
of lateral hires has come up. Sounds brilliant, you know,
DANGELA carative incentive over here in the city of Cincinnati
for someone to quit their suburban police officer job and
work in the city. That sounds like a tough road
to ho there, andre Ewing, what in your perception should
the city do to get people to want to come
and work in the cincinnai police department. I mean, is

(01:41:51):
there a simple solution to that, because everybody's climbing for
officers out there in the world.

Speaker 11 (01:41:55):
Correct, and leadership is the key. Once again, no one
wants to be a police, no one. This is a
serious issue. And this is why you release the full
package with the OSP. And this is interesting because this
could be a test temperature to say, we're gonna test
how the OSP. We release the full package. We allow

(01:42:17):
them to do their traffic stops, their investigations, help with
cis all the things the police need. That means what
more officers? So if you already have the funding to
give us the OSP, why would you keep complaining about
we need to hire more officers. Here's the test, baby,

(01:42:38):
right here. Release all these officers at your disposal. This
leadership is ridiculous. I just gave you the blueprint. Release
it and see how this goes. And you will see
when we get more officers. Here is already the blueprint
that's been set. Release the full package.

Speaker 4 (01:42:58):
Get the full package. Get if the officer could numbers
back up to where they should be, and let's see
if it works at least right, absolute, that's what you're saying, Absolutely,
try it out. You know what, maybe in six months
from now, if they did all that, just flooded the
streets with every day twenty four hours, seven days a week,
the additional resources, and six months from now, if crime
is gone up or things haven't changed, you can say,

(01:43:19):
you know what, it isn't the amount of officers. It's
got to be something else. Thank you very much, andre Ewing,
you are the vehicle for such logic and common sense
to make it out to the residents and the folks
who listen to this conversation on the fifty five Carsee
Morning Show. My friend, you always have a welcome spot here.
I enjoy what you do every week and again I'll
encourage my listeners to check out what you've got to
say and enjoy your reaction to Andre Ewing's words.

Speaker 1 (01:43:42):
Krc Talkstation.

Speaker 4 (01:43:48):
A six here fifty five KRSIT Talk station. The continuous
theme here though on this fifty five Carssee Morning show.
What's going on in the city of Cincinnati and welcome
back to the fifty five Carsite Morning Show. Always a pleasure.
Liz Keating, former counselman, she's running again. We hope she
gets elect at least I do gust Drekker does. Andre
Ewing's got your back. Liz Keaty, welcome back to the

(01:44:08):
fifty five Carcy Morning Show. It's a pleasure to have
you back on the show.

Speaker 12 (01:44:12):
Thanks for having me. It's always a pleasure to be on.

Speaker 4 (01:44:15):
Well, and we're excited and we hope that that voters
give you another shot. At very turbulent times and politics
in downtown Cincinnati and surprising, I think me and everybody
else who fully is aware of how blue the city
is in terms of its democratic leanings. Mary, I have
to have purval. Seems to be scrambling to respond to

(01:44:35):
the crime problem at least that we've gotten downtown Cincinnati.
But a little late in the day as we get
closer and closer, only a few weeks away from voting,
but he's getting he's it seems to have he's gone
into overdrive mode. And now we have this additional wrinkle
that maybe Police Chief Teresa Thiji might get fired. What's
your reaction has as you see things unfold?

Speaker 12 (01:44:55):
Yeah, I think it's a little too late. You know,
of people, the residents of Cincinnati have long been saying
they don't feel safe. We've seen violent crime continue to
pick up and we've heard council members. I mean, we've
had candidate forums. There's been canet forums several weeks, for
many weeks leading up to this election. And they're incumbent
council members who consistently say that these candiate forums everything,

(01:45:19):
it's fine, we're lying about crime. Crime is going down.
Nothing to see here, And they didn't want to face
the facts. They didn't want to admit what was going on.
They didn't want to listen to residents who are saying,
I just don't feel safe, let alone. We know news
every morning there's been shooting after shooting after shooting, and
they don't do anything. And now all of a sudden

(01:45:39):
they're panicking and trying to make changes right before an election.
This is not how we want our city to be run.
We need leaders who are willing to face the facts
and take action right away, not try to hide it
until it's too late leading up to an election. I
just want better leadership and we need change in Cincinnati

(01:46:00):
the way.

Speaker 4 (01:46:00):
And I guess, looking just at the issue of the
police chief, I don't personally blame police Chief three cy
Thigi for the violence in downtown Cincinnati. She is working
with a contingent of police officers, which is at least,
as we understand it, a couple of hundred less than
what we could fully use in downtown Cincinnati. But given
the way the police chiefs are appointed and fired, that

(01:46:21):
that power rests soling the hands of the mayor and
the city manager, neither of whom know anything about policing
generally speaking. I don't know how what their role in
what their position and those roles is that gives them
the the the the knowledge and the skills necessary to
select a good police chief. But the political reality of
that is that the police chiefs beholden to the political

(01:46:41):
whims of those two people, which are not in the
interests of the police department. I don't think in the
interests of the city of Cincinnati. Voters will decide that.
But should we go back to the way it was
before Issue five got passed, Liz, I think yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:46:54):
I think that is a very valid point. Ken Korb
has been very loud about that as well, to give
that buffer. So for the listeners who don't know what
that means, that means we could potentially have a situation
right now the city manager can can fire the police
chief or the fire chief. You know, any time, for

(01:47:14):
any reason, the mayor can fire the city manager. But
to put a little buffer in place, to require a
vote of city council, say seven votes of city council,
to approve the firing of somebody.

Speaker 2 (01:47:26):
That gives them a little.

Speaker 12 (01:47:27):
Buffer to actually do their job and not to sit
it on and and be beholden to the political powers
and and have to deal with the politicization of their jobs.
I really like that idea, and it gives them just
much more room to actually act in the professional manners
that they're supposed to like. Actually police actually make tough

(01:47:50):
decisions that may not be politically expedient for those who
are in office. I think it's a very valid point,
something that we should continue to debate and look at,
because otherwise you're going to continuously see this, especially leading
into an election season.

Speaker 4 (01:48:04):
Well, I suppose on some level, given the nature of
how she was appointed as police chief, that her if
she is fired, the question will be why are you
firing her? Is it because of these of the violence
in the city, since I and you have misallocated the
resources in the city, or is an acknowledgment that because
she follows the policies of the city manager, and I
have to have pro ball that it's a reflection of

(01:48:26):
their own failure by appointing her in the first place,
or by dictating how she runs the office. I mean,
that's like, that's like blaming yourself if you fire her.

Speaker 12 (01:48:35):
I mean, you have to have elected officials that are
willing to stand up every single day and say I
support the police, and I want the police to just
go do their jobs and not holding back and not
create a situation where they're nervous to want to go
out and do their jobs the way that they were trained.
The fact that we are waiting this long to start
going after people who are breaking the law, even minor infractions,

(01:48:59):
is absolutely mind boggling to me. I mean, people have
been complaining about this for a very very long time,
and then to just here this week saying, Okay, we're
going to start going after you, and we're going to
come talk to you, we're going to approach you if
you are doing anything illegal. I mean, the fact that
elected officials weren't supporting and encouraging the police to do

(01:49:19):
this so long ago, I mean, it's no wonder we're
in the situation that we are in. You've got to
be able to support the police, and you've got to
encourage in and allow the police to do their jobs
and not let politics get in.

Speaker 2 (01:49:32):
The way of that.

Speaker 4 (01:49:33):
Amen to that. And then if they are left to
do their job, to run the job independently, make the
choices on their own, free of political pressure, and they
do a poor job, you have a legitimate justification. Hey,
we let her run the show. She failed at that.
We're going to find somebody that does a better job.
That would be more logical and reasonable. But right now
her hands are tied. And again, if they fire her,

(01:49:54):
they're firing her because she bent to their will. That'd
be my argument. Anyway, what do you action the Jeff
Ruby Entertainment Center closing down. I know the spin in
local media was it was some sort of rent dispute,
but it actually was not. The CEO from Ruby's said
out loud that knows because of security the rental company

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the property owner wasn't providing adequate security. I think that's
suggesting we need better security downtown. There are employees working
here and they have concerns walking in and out of
the building, or that maybe criminals and evil types might
walk into the building, So the controversy centers around safety,
and they're not there anymore. After that, Purvoal was on

(01:50:36):
the TV last night arguing with Corey Bowman, claiming Heaps
brought all kinds of businesses in a downsound. But I
don't remember any of that, Liz keating, are we losing
more than we're gaining? Where are we in terms of
drawing people into downtown Cincinnati?

Speaker 12 (01:50:49):
You know, I think we have a problem across the board.
We have seen restaurant shutdown and those restaurant owners consistently
say that it's because crime, and say has it been
a problem and impacting their businesses? Now, we know we
are in a tough economy. We know that we already
have a lot of forces going against us. But when

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you have this kind of economy, you know crime spikes,
you know mental health issues rise, and you know you
have safety issues. These are things that could have been
prevented and worked on two years ago, but it wasn't.
And now we're consistently hearing You're hearing restaurants in the banks,
You're hearing restaurants in Central Business District, You're hearing restaurants
do it in OTR Consistently complained about that and need

(01:51:32):
for more police officers, more police officers walking the beat,
more security, more private detail to be able to manage
this not just from a security standpoint and a safety standpoint,
but a perception of safety so that people feel safe.
And if people don't feel safe, they are not going
to come support our businesses, and those businesses are going

(01:51:54):
to hurt. And if we are a city that does
not support these small businesses that are the lifeblood of
our city and our community, we have a huge, huge
problem down the line. We got to be able to
do better, and we need city officials, particularly city council
step up and actually care about these businesses and make
sure they're getting the support they need from a safety standpoint.

Speaker 4 (01:52:15):
Well, Pauls, bring Liz Keating back. Obviously we know where
she is on crime in the downtown sin Sinnator. We're
going to get some other ideas she has for as
she wins the council race. Early voting is open, the
Board of Elections is open. Go cast your vote today.
Make sure Liz Keating is among the four or five
you actually vote for. Going back to Christopher Smithman's point,

(01:52:35):
don't vote for all nine. You don't need to do that.
Just vote for the ones you want. It's vote Liz
Keating K E A T I G. Vote Liz Keating
dot com. We'll bring her back right.

Speaker 2 (01:52:46):
From the station.

Speaker 4 (01:52:50):
Eight eighteen fifty five ker CED Talk station. So there's
a very important election in the city of Cincinnati coming
up in November, and Liz Keating's on the battle for
sincey City Council joining the program this, we wan't need
to talk about that. So as we move away from crime,
I had one of the other huge issues for the
residents of the city, and we saw this unfold and
Bond Hill and Hyde Park they collectively painted this connected

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communities zoning rule over all of the neighborhoods without consulting
with local communities about whether they wanted it or not,
and then start making exceptions for well connected developers and
in other areas without consulting those local communities like the
residents of Hyde Park. We all know how that worked
out for the mayor and the city council. What is
the Liz Keating approach to let's say, affordable housing. I

(01:53:36):
know Parvoll said even again last night he wants forty
thousand new affordable called affordable homes. Maybe you can define
that for me, because I don't know what that means
in the next ten years, but that's four thousand a years.
They haven't even come close to that goal. Liz, keeping
your reaction to property.

Speaker 12 (01:53:54):
Yeah, I think the number one reason why they haven't
come close to that goal is because they're not actually
having productive debate there. I mean, if you if you
look at these situations, they're going all or nothing. So
you've got council members who are voting yes, just get
down there and give speeches as to why they're voting yes.
And then you've got council members they're voting no, and
they're giving speeches as to why they're voting no. So

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they go all or nothing. A lot of these communities
are saying, yeah, we do want housing, we do want investment,
we do want something. Can you just work with us
into what fits within the design of our community. And
if it's all or nothing, everyone loses. You end up
with nothing, as you're seeing it in High Park. Whereas
a lot of the High Park neighborhood said, you know,

(01:54:36):
our squares old, it's been a while since we've gotten
some sort of investment. We'd be happy to have a
little bit of a facelift. Can you work within our
current voting?

Speaker 2 (01:54:45):
Can you?

Speaker 12 (01:54:46):
Can you work within the current design?

Speaker 2 (01:54:48):
Can you?

Speaker 12 (01:54:48):
Can you respect the architectural history of our square? And
if you had done that, you would actually be moving
forward on a project right now that one fits with
a neighbor that makes the neighborhood happy, and you'd actually
have more units than you have now. Guess how many
we have now because of the absolute failure of City
Council zero. And it's insane. If you look at the

(01:55:11):
way the city approaches development in our urban core, it
is very proactive, it's strategic, it's intentional, and it respects
the historic architecture of our downtown. And I've said this before.
You wouldn't build a big box apartment building on the
empty parking lot next to music Hall.

Speaker 3 (01:55:33):
You just want it.

Speaker 12 (01:55:33):
Nobody would even fathom doing that. But when you go
to the neighborhoods that things like that are like, oh, well,
you're a nimbi if you don't want this, and it's
absolutely absurd, Like you rarely see opposition of housing being
built in urban core because of how careful and how
intentional they are on it, and if we can take
that same proactive approach in our neighborhoods, work with our

(01:55:54):
neighborhoods of what do you want and how do we
make this fit? You can actually be much more proactive
and figure out how to incentivize that kind of investment,
and particularly for disinvested neighborhoods, they can get that added investment,
more housing units the way that fits within the neighborhood,
and you'd be much further along. If you continue this

(01:56:16):
all or nothing approach and absolutely fail and having a
productive debate, you get where you are now, which is zero.

Speaker 4 (01:56:24):
Well, it seems to me this kind of communities and
it's all about affordable housing. I don't know what that
word means. I know that if somebody built an apartment
complex in Hyde Park, and maybe it was, you know,
one hundred units and each one only had let's say
five hundred square feet, you're going to get a hell
of a lot more rent in that unit than you are.
And pick one of the other fifty two neighborhoods where
maybe the crime is a lot higher, maybe the amenities

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aren't is, maybe there's not as much shopping or grocery
store access. They're not going to command as much rent
just by virtue of location. You can't control that unless
you put in some kind of rent control, can you, Liz,
I think.

Speaker 12 (01:57:00):
It's more the way I look at it is is
figuring out how we can get more two, three, four
families built, because if you look on public transit lines,
you can build within neighborhoods, these smaller what you know
professionals call the missing middle housing. You're building up those,
and then more people can can actually build those. You

(01:57:22):
have more mom and pops that can build a two family.
It's a pathway to home ownership because somebody can buy
a two family and rent out the other side, and
I'll set their mortgage, which you know brings the cost down.
But then you're buying real estate, which we all know
builds that generational wealth. But then more people can partake
in that because there aren't very many people who can
afford to big, big apartment buildings like you're seeing in

(01:57:45):
the urban core. And so if you can take that approach,
and I think hyge Park is a perfect example. If
you look at all these cross streets around Hyghe Park Square,
like z'ms Seen and Barry in Michigan and Eriie and observatory.
You do have a lot of two three four families.
I grew up on a street two doors down with
a four family because I lived right off of a
major road on Linwood Road. And it gives more people

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the opportunity easy. You allow more people to be able
to build, and it offsets the cost to be able
to create that pathway to home ownership and generational wealth.
And I think that's the best approach because those smaller
missing middle housing, the two three four family units that
fits into neighborhoods, it works. And if you're doing it
on public transit lines, if you're doing in these neighborhood

(01:58:31):
business districts, if you're doing it in near schools and
health centers and daycares, you know it fits so perfectly
and more people get to partake in it.

Speaker 4 (01:58:40):
And I presume that this entire conversation has to be
predicated on one of those smaller builders maybe or any
any builder actually realizing a profit by building that type
of unit as opposed to going for the full freight
really big apartments or really expensive housing.

Speaker 12 (01:58:58):
There is think about the number of people that could
move forward on doing that versus one massive project that
takes years and years to get all the approvals, to
get all the financing and move forward. And I think
the problem with this council is that the you know,
they keep this all or nothing approach and then they
panic because they haven't move forward on any numbers, and

(01:59:19):
so they just want one big project so they can
you know, tally up and say we got this many
versus trying to figure out how to be much more
proactive and strategic and working with the community to make
it fit. There is a way to do this. We
have seen other cities do this, and we just need
council members who are willing to take the time and

(01:59:40):
actually have that productive debate to figure it out.

Speaker 4 (01:59:43):
Early voting is open. I recommend my listeners check out
their website vote Lizkeating dot com. In spite of the
fact that we're running out of time in terms of
now in the election just a few weeks away, it's
not too late for folks to help out with your campaign,
get involved and maybe even donate or are we past that?
Liz Keating.

Speaker 12 (01:59:59):
A absolutely not pass that all of the above, So
we definitely need help and we will take any and
all help. Obviously, donations are extremely helpful, particularly at these
last few weeks, to help with ads and the mailers.
We need people at the polling locations on election day
talking to your neighbors, your friends as they come in

(02:00:22):
to vote, and and you know, getting yard signs up
and just making sure people are aware because you know,
voter turnout is extremely low on these off year elections,
and that's why we end up with what we have
right now. And if you want to have a voice,
if you want to have productive debate, if you want
somebody who's going to fight crime and fight the causes

(02:00:42):
of crime. If you want somebody who is going to
make sure those potholes are filled and the roads are
paved and we actually plow snow when it's when it
snows out. We need to have you show up. We
need to have you talking about it and make sure
you got your networks to show up to vote too.

Speaker 4 (02:00:57):
Have those sound like great ideas that you need to vote,
Liz Keating, I recommend people do that again.

Speaker 12 (02:01:02):
Vote listen a great idea. Sorry I'm interrupting you here.
That is not even a great idea, that is just
common sense foundation of local government. This shouldn't be that hard.

Speaker 4 (02:01:13):
I'm glad I said it, Cincinnati. I'm glad I said
that change down.

Speaker 3 (02:01:17):
There, right.

Speaker 4 (02:01:18):
I'm glad I said that because you put the exclamation
point on it. Amen, Liz Keaty, good luck. If we
don't talk between now and then, and I hope we do.
I wish you all the best, and I really just
for the benefit of the city that I love so much,
we need a new administration who can focus on this
logical and reasonable strategy. Thanks Liz Keating, keep up the
great work and I'll wish you all the best as

(02:01:40):
we fast approach election day coming up.

Speaker 9 (02:01:43):
Many things to be thankful for it to be otherwise, brother,
you know that is I know it's been a very
good day.

Speaker 4 (02:01:47):
That's why I love the post you put up on
Facebook because I always have this inspirational, positive message. You know,
there's always something positive you can focus on, and that's
why I like you so much. You're good man. Jay
rat left and what happened to Southwest? Real quick? Here
carve all time. Last time you were on you were
talking I think was Spirit Airlines. Who's getting rid of
reclining seats or you had to pay extra for them?

Speaker 9 (02:02:09):
Well, actually that's West Jets. West cat and yeah, West
Jet in Canada, they're they're kind of the Southwest Airlines,
if you will, of Canada to a smaller version. They're
premium seats are seats that we can pay extra for
if we want, if you want to read like that
premium service of reclining. Yes, exactly.

Speaker 4 (02:02:29):
But Southwest just has redesigned their interiors of all some
of their airplanes anyway, and they're now switching to brand
new Reccaro R two seats featuring multi adjustable headrest, cutchen,
integrated tablet and phone holder in the rear, and in
seed power with integrated USBA and seaports. Sounds like they're
going the opposite direction. Didn't they pay attention to making

(02:02:49):
us more miserable in order to make more money?

Speaker 9 (02:02:51):
Jay, Well, you know, but part of this is also
so they can put in their premium seats, which are
things that they are just now doing, because they've got
the assigned seats that are coming up, and they've got
the premium seats where you can pay to sit in
a seat that's got a little bit more leg room.
Because Southwest really learned a couple of years ago that
they really needed to start paying attention to the fact

(02:03:12):
that there's a segment of the traveling pump population that's
willing to pay above and beyond what they would normally
pay for an airfare for a more comfortable seat with
more LEGRAM. And I love the fact they're going to
assigned seating. That means no more of these wheelchairs out
the door type of thing where people are just trying
to get on early. But the idea that you're going

(02:03:33):
to have the ability to have a premium seat, which
is a little bit larger seat, a little bit more legram,
well I don't think the seat's larger, but you've got
more legroom, more pitched between rows is going to be
a great thing. Because Delta and United reported earnings recently
and they were incredibly strong, and they credited the premium
seats that they've been selling and how popular they have been,

(02:03:57):
and how they continue to make that one of their
uh primary you know, marketing points. And you know other
airlines are doing the same thing. They're recognizing that. Look, yeah,
cramming as many seats onto an aircraft as you can
is one thing. It's like that double decker aircraft, the
airbus A three eighty. If it's all coach configuration, no
business class, no first class, no premium seats. You can

(02:04:19):
put eight hundred people on that airplane. Oh lord, I
think that's tempting fate. But that's another story.

Speaker 4 (02:04:25):
But that's the first reaction I had came from.

Speaker 5 (02:04:30):
You got that right.

Speaker 9 (02:04:32):
So, but you know, when when airlines start putting in
the first class seats, the business class, and then these
premium seats, which are the you know, the extra comfortable
coach seats. Uh, some airlines found out that the coach,
the premium coach seats were more popular than some of
their first class seats and some of their business class.
So we've actually seen airlines over the last couple of

(02:04:52):
years removing some of the business class first class seats
so they can make more room to put more of
these premium sea seats in because even though they obviously
sell them at a reduced price versus what they took out,
they can put in more of those, and they sell
those out much more frequently than they do the seats
that many times are just an upgrade for people want

(02:05:13):
with their frequent flyer miles, where really, you know, they're
not getting a huge, uh you know, benefit from a
revenue standpoint. So yeah, it's fascinating to see this shift
to premium seats. It doesn't surprise me because as tough
as it is to endure travel these days, to pay
a couple extra dollars to sit in those premium seats
is certainly the way to do.

Speaker 4 (02:05:34):
It well and almost a requirement considering society's collective girth
is increasing even as we speak. Got to have room
to put the person, and I would be willing to
pay extra for some space if I had a girth issue.
Pause from it will bring Jay Rylive back plenty to
talk about with his massivenue wreckon river near Dell High

(02:05:54):
Chuck Ingram on fifty five KOC the talk station. We've
never been in a cockpit before? A thirty eight fifty
on cair C DE talk station, returning with iHeartMedia Aviation
expert Jay Ratliffe. You were one other thing right and
again not on your list?

Speaker 2 (02:06:11):
But how.

Speaker 9 (02:06:14):
Why reference what I send you that's mine?

Speaker 4 (02:06:16):
No, we'll get to all that. I just like to
build a fit all the time your show, brother, you lead.
I don't want to have to go back and lead
myself to my own devices. I have you as a
vehicle to keep the conversation going, Jay, you know that's fine.
Pete Heggs's flight had to divert. They crack. A windshield
got cracked. Oh, how does the windshield get cracked? Or

(02:06:36):
is this a fairly common phenomenon. I'd never read about
that before.

Speaker 9 (02:06:40):
Well, you know, when when you're talking about a cockpit windshield,
you're talking about several different layers of protection. When you
look at it, because it's multi layered, it's obviously very
high strength, and there's a lot of times that this
this acrylic glass, if you will, can't and not shatter.

(02:07:02):
It's not like it blows out, but it cracks, and
when you're in the cockpit when that happens, it sounds
like a gun went off. But because of the fact
it's multi layered, a lot of times you've just got
one layer of those I think three that you have
there that has been impacted. So what happens is the
plane normally will make an unscheduled landing. It's not necessarily

(02:07:24):
considered an emergency landing. But the land because obviously you're
worried about the rest of the windshield components, which even
though they're in separately, contains separately it happens frequently. The
biggest issue is if they're landing, it could impair the
pilot's ability to see the runway to an extent. But no,

(02:07:45):
I mean it's they happen. And when you look at
the number of flights that we have in the course
of a day, a week, a month, a year, I'm
surprised we don't have more occurrences of that taking place.
But the pictures when you do a Google image of
the cockpit windshields when they do this, yeah, it's something
to look at for sure.

Speaker 4 (02:08:05):
Fair enough in aviation terms, it's.

Speaker 9 (02:08:08):
Almost a non event, other than the fact that if
you're drinking coffee when it starts, you might spill your coffee,
because you get it's quite a start because you've got
that cockpit the flight deck that's contained, so anything in
there it echoes, but at a much louder sound. And
believe me, the flight crew was made aware of it
immediately when it happened.

Speaker 4 (02:08:27):
I imagine. So so in addition to cleaning up the coffee,
you probably had to hit the restroom and do a
shorts change. At least I would anyway. But oh, to Boeing,
it looks like they're on the move in terms of deliveries.
They're increasing the deliveries behind air Bus, though, but are
they delivering planes that are safe?

Speaker 9 (02:08:43):
Jay, We hope so that is the plan, and normally
Boeing an Airbus it's fifty to fifty, but obviously with
the production delays that we've been talking about with Boeing,
that's not been the case for the last several years.
But Boeing is starting to close the gap. I was
looking at the numbers for Airbus. Airbus has delivered five
hundred and sixty eight aircraft to date and Boeing four

(02:09:06):
hundred and forty. Now that's a little bit closer than
what it's been of late. But what's really interesting, Brian,
and we've talked about this from time to time, is
the backlog of airplanes. Now, keep in mind, Airbus is
hoping to deliver about nine hundred airplanes this year. They
have a backlog at Airbus of eight thousand, seven hundred
and sixteen jets that they still have to build. Airbus

(02:09:29):
has got the eighty seven hundred. Boeing's backlog is sixty
five hundred and thirty one jets Between them, that's fifteen
thousand planes that have been ordered that they have yet
to be built and delivered. And that's why if you
order a jet today, yeah, it's going to be delivered
sometime during the next presidential administration, because it's going to

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take a long time. When you're cranking out a thousand
airplanes a year and you you've got a backlog of
eighty seven hundred, Yeah, it's going to take some time.
And that's why a lot of times we talked about
why do one airline buy another airline because the fact
that if you want to increase the size of your fleet, yeah,
you can get in line with everybody else, or you

(02:10:11):
can go buy a Spirit or somebody else and immediately
increase your fleet by a couple hundred aircraft of the
type that that you want to use. So that's one
of the reasons a lot of times you'll see those acquisitions.
It's not so much market based, do you like where
they fly the schedule type of thing. It's the fact
that you want the equipment that that air airline saw
or flies. But yeah, Boeing's making up some distance there

(02:10:35):
and yeah, we'll see if they can continue to close
that gap.

Speaker 4 (02:10:38):
All right, Well, considering the the data of you know,
signing the contract to purchase and the data delivery decade.
What of all the technological advances that might occur over
that period of time, wouldn't you want the most state
of the art, safest, quietest, most efficient fuel wise aircraft?
And I got to imagine that type of research and
development is going on all the time. We've got a
lot quieter planes out in the world than we used to. So,

(02:10:59):
oh yeah, are you getting today? Like if I order
in twenty twenty five, is that the kind of technology
I'm getting in twenty thirty five when the thing shows up?
Or do you get the benefit of an improvements you do?

Speaker 9 (02:11:10):
Because what happens the avionics package is normally one of
the last things that they're going to be putting in,
so it's going to be the state of the art
of what you have. A lot like the power plant
or the engines that you put on an aircraft or
are you know, towards the end of the aircraft be
being produced and installed. So that's one of the things
that you look at there. So yeah, you would be
getting the benefit of that. That would be almost insult

(02:11:30):
to injury if you had to worry, If you had
to worry about getting an airplane. Yeah that had a
package of you know, ten years old on some of
its components. Yeah, that's not what we're after, and fortunately
that's not the case. But you know, these airplanes, they
continue to get more quiet, they continue to get more
fuel efficient, and they allow the airlines to be more profitable.

(02:11:52):
And you know, one of the things that blows my
mind to this day is continuing to see airlines like
Delta in United that report quarterly profits of more than
a billion dollars. Delta just last week announced their third
quarter profit was one point four billion dollars in the
third United was a much less impressive nine hundred million,

(02:12:16):
I think or so in the third quarter. But Brian,
what just blows my mind is, I remember all the
decades when airlines were losing money like crazy. You couldn't
get Warren Buffett to buy an airline stock if you
dared him. But what happened was airlines have gotten to
the point now where they're using the credit cards and
the other things to help them make this money. From

(02:12:36):
a revenue standpoint, last year, the big four airlines made
eight billion dollars in profit collectively, those four But when
you look at the boring numbers. What we talk about
the available seat miles per carrier and the revenue generated
per available seat mile. They're actually losing money on the
transportation side of the equation. Think about that. If all

(02:12:59):
they did was transportation and that was the sole vein
of their revenue stream, they would be losing money in
a lot of it. But because they've got the ancillary
fairs and those credit cards, you're now seeing this revenue
being generated at just an unbelievable pace. And that's why.
You know, everybody's got a credit card that's tied to

(02:13:19):
miles and things of this nature. Whether or not we
use them or not another thing. But that's where they're
making this money from other resources in additional revenue streams,
and it's really become a multifaceted business where you've got
these multiple revenue streams that are contributing to these un
I mean, the idea that an airline could make a
billion dollars in profit in a year was unthinkable a

(02:13:41):
number of years ago. Now you've got United doing it
almost every quarter, as is Delta, and it just it's mind.

Speaker 4 (02:13:47):
Boggling mind modeling. Most notably that it isn't based upon
the core function of their business, which is air trap.

Speaker 9 (02:13:53):
Why do that, Well, you know, any business has multiple
revenue streams they need to. But when you look at
the fact that, hey, we're in business to transport people
and just because of the competition, thank God for the
low cost carriers. That's why anytime we get a low
cost carrier in Cincinnati, and we've had some recent news
with Frontier and Allegiance which has really been exciting at Cincinnati.

(02:14:14):
I love it because the stronger these low cost carriers are,
the more in check they keep these larger legacy carriers.
And regardless of which city I'm talking to across the country,
when they say, hey, Jay, we just landed a Breeze
or a Legion or a Frontier, I'm thinking, great, make
sure you support them because they're the reason that we
have these low fares. If these airlines like a Spirit

(02:14:36):
and others start to disappear from the landscape, we're toast
because these large legacy carriers will start to raise their fares.

Speaker 4 (02:14:43):
As we've seen before, Yeah, the old c and.

Speaker 9 (02:14:48):
That's what Well, we had no competition at the time,
no low cost carriers, so Frontier kind of broke that model.
A number of years ago. Thank God for that, bringing
that one flight from Dayton that they had for seven
years down to Cincinnati to Denver and the next thing
you know, they're going crazy. Here comes Allegiant, here comes
everybody else. Right, So it's because of that, So please
continue to support those low cost carriers. And at the

(02:15:08):
website at the Cincinnat Airport CBG Airport, you can see
where some of these new low cost carriers are bringing
him back some of their seasonal service, introducing new service,
and it's really some exciting things to see and I'm
thrilled that the community is supporting them as we are.

Speaker 4 (02:15:23):
Jay Ratlif Pause, We're bringing back for a real quick hit.
We'll end on a comical note. And even though it
involves a sad and pathetic passenger and to get a
hub delay, don't go away right backer. See Deep Talk
Station eight if you want, if you have Karcite Talk
station closing another Thursday with one more segment with iHeartMedia
aviation expert Jay Rattleff from the Don't Be That Guy file.

(02:15:47):
We got another passenger attacking crew members. What's this one
all about? Jay?

Speaker 9 (02:15:51):
Yeah, this is a don't be that woman story because
this was a sixty sixty one year old passenger that
was a board of a Last airline's flight. It was
scheduled to fly from Portland to Dallas. But during the
course of the flight, this woman started acting irrationally and
flight attendants were trying to come to her aid, well,
that's when she struck them, and that's all it took

(02:16:11):
that she was immediately restrained. Flight was diverted and you
know it's bad when you have to divert to Boise Idoh,
but that's where they landed to get her off, and
obviously the airline quickly came out saying, you know, charges
could be filed obviously, you know, assaulting a flight attendant,
and also that she'll never be flying the Last Airlines
ever again, which is good. But then back to my

(02:16:33):
overused comment that she can still fly any other airline
in the country she wants to after assaulting a crew member,
which should not be allowed, but continues to be so.
So one of these Brian, it's going to take something
serious and that's when the airlines are going to decide
that that's when they need to do it, at which
point we'll be screaming, why did it take this long
for us? To make that kind of a decision.

Speaker 4 (02:16:55):
It's like our lithium battery discussions from time to time. Yeah,
wait till that happens on an eight hundred passenger airplane
Jay ratlift.

Speaker 9 (02:17:03):
Let's hope, not hope, not lee all.

Speaker 4 (02:17:05):
Right, as we typically do or always do, if we
can fit in hub delays. How's it looking out there
today for air travel one of.

Speaker 9 (02:17:12):
The days of the week we've had to fly. I
think Salt Lake City is about the only hub that
I've been able to find from a weather standpoint that
could see some delays. Chicago may be late in the day,
but I think that's.

Speaker 2 (02:17:23):
Going to be minimal.

Speaker 9 (02:17:23):
I think it's gonna be Salt Lake and I don't
think the delays are going to be any more than
thirty to forty minutes there. So if you picked today,
you picked a great one, not only from the good
weather standpoint, but probably a reduction in turbulence, which is
also nice. But that doesn't mean not to keep seatbelt on,
please do so.

Speaker 4 (02:17:38):
Is you flying fair enough? But what I'm hearing is
the government shutdown, even though it may impact air traffic,
controller salaries or something, is not impacting air travel itself.
At least yet.

Speaker 2 (02:17:48):
No.

Speaker 9 (02:17:49):
Last Friday we had thirty nine hundred flights that were delayed,
and a lot of that's being touted because of the
shut down blah blah blah blah blah. But again to
introduce facts to the story, the average number of delays
we've had this year has been forty one hundred a day.
We actually had fewer delays on the snapshot I took
on Friday than what we normally have, so that would

(02:18:12):
lend me to say, yes, we are having pockets of problems.
I won't discount that, but Brian, don't tell me we're
having a coast to coast problem if we have fewer
delays now per day than what we have normally.

Speaker 4 (02:18:24):
Fair enough, Jay Rayliffe, thank you so much for joining
the program every week. I thoroughly enjoy our exchange and
the information we talk about. And I'll look forward to
next Thursday and another discussion between now and then. Best
of health and love to you, and of course you're
better half.

Speaker 9 (02:18:39):
Same to you, my friend.

Speaker 4 (02:18:39):
Thank you, Thanks brother. It's a fifty four right now.
If you get a chance to listen, Dan