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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
It is, the way the news goes. And I cannot
say how happy I am or express how happy I'm
to see Joe's Trecker back where he belongs, right there
where he belongs, in the executive producer booth. God bless
you Joe's Trecker. I'm so pleased he came out from
yesterday's health emergency and with a clean bill of health
and lots of listeners concerned about you heard about you
heard your name mentioned a whole bunch of times yesterday
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(00:52):
nice uh get together we had yesterday and everybody made
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But you know what, keep your airs up for Joe, please, please,
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on AT and T phone. My name is Brian Thomas,

(01:14):
host of this morning show fifty five Casey Morning Show.
Glad to be in this position, and I am looking
forward as I always am. Congressman Warren Davidson seven oh five,
our first guest this morning. We'll talk about the primary
and the apparently the real work must start now is
we head on headlong into November, and while we need
to show up at the polls in November, I'm going

(01:35):
to be hammering on that from now until the election
in November. And I got a couple of words from
my Jewish fans in the audience are still wed to
the Democratic Party. Question why why? I've really, quite honestly,
and I've said it out loud before and I'll say
it out loud again right now. Basically, why is it

(01:56):
that the Jewish community, generally speaking, it's like saying the
black community it's one percent for Democrats. We all know
that is not the case. But a large, large, overwhelmingly
sizable percentage of Black community votes for Democrats. I mean,
that's what allowed Joe Biden to utter the words, if
you uh don't vote Democrat, you're not black. The audacity

(02:16):
of that. So I would never say, if you don't
vote Democrat You're not Jewish. How stupid would that sound?
But percentage wise, it's been widely demonstrated, and it's off,
you know, polls out there and everything. Jewish people typically
vote for Democrats, and I've never understood that. And I
have lots of Jewish friends. I've also pointed that out
a lot of times. I'm proud of that. I love them.

(02:38):
Matter of fact, one of my best friends is Jewish.
We disagree politically all the time. I've never been able
to figure out why he votes for the Democrats. But
I say this, you know, with a specific target in mind,
and the absurdity of Graham Platner in Maine, the guy

(03:02):
with the Nazi tattoo and the guy who has uttered
some really foul things, things that fly in the face
of well the Democrats purport to support and believe in
all along, and yet they're openly they're embracing this guy
and he There are options bear, you know, James Freeman

(03:22):
wrote about this the other day. You know, there is
another candidate running for this pubb this position who's not
a crazy, demonstrably insane. I guess you can say former
supporter of Nazi ideology, given has got this Nazi tattoo
in his chest. Graham Platner, and I just I just

(03:46):
struggled this morning to kind of come to grips with
this painful reality. What are the Democrats all about? They
killed they They've spent how long, how many years, a
decade or more saying Donald Trump is a Nazi without
any demonstrable proof that is the case. They had to

(04:07):
twist the words of that Charlottesville riot, you know, they
are great people on both sides or whatever, when he
was only referring to the general population. He showed up
to see what was going at the protest, and in fact,
there were good people on both sides. It was the
crazy people that were responsible for showing up and beating
up each other or fighting against each other. That well,
we can criticize, like the actual racist that might have

(04:29):
been there. Yeah, okay, there's a New York op ed
piece New York Times, the bashing of left wing journalism,
right headline, New York Times. If Democrats have appropriate fear
of Trump, they will elect Platner In the way I

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read that, if you listen to a Democrats, if they
have appropriate fear of the Nazi that is Trump, they
will elect the well overtly Nazi. That is Platiner. That's why,
because he's our Nazi. You know, Trump is their Nazi.
And in the op ed, guess is this is Frank Brunei,

(05:15):
the op ed contributor to The New York Times, Graham
Platner isn't my ideal center candidate, not even close. I'm
deeply troubled by the thinness of his political experience. So
the guy has no experience the primacy of raw anger
in his appeal to voters. Okay, so I guess he
has maybe a delivery mechanism that maybe mirrors Trump and

(05:36):
the bluntness of his message and the message itself, the
underlying message comes across as pretty contrary to what the
Democrats believe in. For example, as the op ed opinion
writer writes, the primacy's raw anger his appeal to voters,
and by the oddities and ugliness from a Nazi tattoo
to a fondness for gay and gayest as put downs,

(06:00):
like as in him saying, oh that's gay, not refer
to the sexuality as a gay person, but the derogatory
nature we have traditionally, and I know it's offensive to
the gay community to say oh, that's gay, and not
mean it in terms of sexuality, but mean it in
terms of a putdown. That is Platiner, and that is
what he has done, I guess. And also he interjects,

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and in his not so distant past he has been
doing this and saying things like this. He only recently
had the toten koff Nazi tattoo covered up. Why because
it was politically a liability. Otherwise he wouldn't have covered
it up. So every time he's got his shirt off
at the beach, he is proudly displaying, well, I suppose
his support for the Nazis, because there's no other way

(06:43):
you can you can interpret that totankf tat tattoo. This
Brunei op ed opinion writer links to a political story
describing Platner's release of a video quote off, bringing a
lengthy explanation and expressing regret for his Reddit comments that

(07:05):
endorse political violence, minimized rape in the military, and disparaged police.
You can't unring that bell Man. And yet the op
ed opinion writer concludes, in spite of all of that criticism,
all that acknowledged upfront baggage, awful as it may be,
of Graham Platner, his record demonstrably showing him to be well,

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I guess a Nazi and somebody is not very sensitive
to the reality of the modern world. I don't know,
he says, quote, but if I lived in Maine, i'd
vote for him in November, hmm, he said. Around his

(07:51):
country in key sentate house races, they'll be presented with
some Democratic nominees who are more progressive, more moderate than
they are, and who have discreet positions that unsettle them,
individual wards that defend them, biographies that aren't to their liking.
It is ever thus and Platner's emergence last week as

(08:12):
the presumptive Democratic Senate nominee in Maine is a reminder
of that, okay, which is, we all have warts, we
all have our faults, But on balance, the sexist, racist,
I guess, anti gay Platiner is better than the manufactured

(08:33):
criticism of Donald Trump, or, in the case of Maine
as a state, anyone who might support Donald Trump. So
you see, because if you support Donald Trump's policies, you
know buy inference, you therefore support Nazis, which means you
know that you know they extrapolate the whole Nazi things

(08:53):
again made up criticism of Trump. So if you're a
Trump supporter, then you are I guess a Nazi supporter
by inference. But that is because you've extrained, You've sort
of created this myth that Donald Trump is in some way,
shape or form a Nazi. There's no evidence, a proof
of that. When you got a guy who literally has

(09:15):
a tone cough tattoo on his just which well can
I don't think you can draw any other conclusion that
that shows support for Why would you put a tattoo
on yourself unless you are at a desperate need for
expression of irony? You know, yeah, I got a Nazi tattoo. Well,
because it's ironic. Of course, no one supports Nazis, right,

(09:35):
you know, it's like wearing the Phil Collins T shirt
when you're a young hipster. Who in the hell would
wear that? It was from a movie. I can't remember
which movie that was, but it was great. It's irony. Man, No,
I don't like Phil Collins. I'm wearing a Phil Collins
T shirt. No, you can't do that with a Nazi tattoo.

(09:57):
And it's funny because you know there is another person
the race who's still there running as a Democrat, someone
who gives them an option in Maine over the Nazi,
anti gay person whatever. David Costello still in there. And
it's funny because Freeman in the Wall Street Jura points out,
I said, wait a second, Brunie, you don't have to
sort of swallow the reality that this is a terrible

(10:20):
guy and that you know, yes, he has a lot
of wards and you're willing to overlook him because well,
it's better than a Republican in Maine. What about the
Democrat David Costello who's still in the race. Costello the
party's nominee for the state's other US Senate seat back
in twenty twenty four. The Democrats nominated Costello. Apparently he

(10:41):
was viable a couple of years ago, and now you're
going with Platner. Born and raised in Maine, Costello was
all available evidence suggests that he bears no Nazi insignia.
Props to James Freeman for that line. And apparently this
Costela guy a much better candidate on paper as well,

(11:04):
at least for the Democrats who are concerned. All of
the background he has, and it's all noted on his
campaign website. He's got all the liberal check marks going
for him. So what's with Platner? Is this perhaps a
revelation that the Democrat Party and all of their support
for the Muslim community, the anti Israel protest going on

(11:24):
in New York City. Zorhan mom Dami, mayor there no
friend of the Jewish community, Zorhan mom Dami. He won't
even come out and criticize this massive riot they had
in front of his synagogue the other day where a
lot of anti Semitism was sort of revealed for all
to absorb and look at right there in front of
your very eyes, all the anti Israel people standing there,

(11:48):
all the anti Semitites, semi screaming and yelling about well,
Jews moving to Israel. Huh. And I go back to
my initial question outset of the program this morning, why
are Jewish people backing the Democrats who are sort of
if you if you collect all of the headlines and
all of the news articles and everything that's been going

(12:10):
on over the last several years, showing themselves and revealing
themselves to be really, really, really really anti Israel, which
I think is distinct from anti Semitism. You cannot agree
the Jewish about the Jewish states existence. That is not
a commentary on the Jewish people. It's just a comment
on the existence of the state, always controversial. The existence

(12:34):
of Israel, fine, but this is beyond just the existence
of Israel. This is the embracing of Palestinian terrorists, in
many cases, the celebration of October seventh, the slaughtering of
Jewish elderly people, women and children, innocence. I find it

(12:54):
impossible to grasp this is the direction they have gone,
the Democrats. This is the embracing of what I can
only conclude is an undercurrent of anti Semitism. Put that
down in the Democratic Party platform. I think that's what
you gotta be to run as a Democrat these days.

(13:15):
Five eighteen fifty five k r CD talk station. Maybe
you feel differently. If I have any members of the
Jewish Committee and the listening audience that want to chime
in on why they're still Democrats amid all this, please
feel free to offer your suggestions. I don't get it.
We'll be right back after these brief words. Five point
two on a Friday, even a happy one to you.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Day.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Listener to lunch yesterday, speaking of my Jewish friends, Doctor J.
Rissover is going to be handling some of the responsibilities
for the empower You seminars. We move forward. Dan Reganeld,
the well, the inventor of and the man behind empower You.
He also is there. Dan Reganeld was awesome seeing yesterday.
I know Jay will take care and handle matters for
empower You. America dot Org quite well in your absence.
Will miss having you around town since you're moving out

(13:57):
out of the area. But what a blessing empower You
has been for the wealth of community at large. So
good morning to both of you and everybody else you
should have been listening lunch yesterday. Fantastic time. Here you go,
pivoting over to California, where the care Council on American
Islamic Relations is issuing a warning for those out there
who are anti Semites keep your mouth shut. What Yeah,

(14:21):
there's a video circling on social media showing the California
Muslim advocacy leader who urging supporters to be in our words,
strategic about how they express themselves publicly. Zara Bill oh
b I l l oo tur last name. I don't know,
I probably pronouncing it incorrectly, but whatever, executive director of

(14:44):
the California Chapter of the Council on American Islamic Relations,
telling supporters, well, you need to watch your p's and
q's when you're discussing controversial topics and sentiments in public,
ie on social media, cautioning against posting searching views publicly
and providing an illustration. She says in this video, Now

(15:09):
imagine your LinkedIn profile says I hate all Zionists, not
strategic right. You may say that sitting around the Kawa
House on a Friday night, but you're not gonna say
it on your LinkedIn warning, don't be honest. Certainly you
engage in anti semit or you you embrace anti Semitism.

(15:31):
You hate Jewish people in your real world. But you
know what, that's not a politically good a good thing
to say out loud. So keep your real opinions to yourself. Now,
platnir and Main has a difficult time doing that, given
that his body has been well permanently. I know it's
been altered and he had it covered up, but the
Nazi tattoo is quite revealing. But any event, just keep

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your keep the keep the real parts. Don't say the
quiet part out loud. In other words, this is me.
It's I suppose it's good advice. If you don't want
the world to know you're anti Semitic, it's good advice.
If you want the care organization supported. You don't want
anti semite saying out loud they're anti Semitic. But you

(16:15):
certainly want these voices supporting your organization, now, don't you,
even though your organization may in and of itself be
fundamentally anti Semitic. What observer notice The message here isn't done,
isn't don't hate people and don't be bigots. The message

(16:37):
is we must hide our hatred and bigotry more strategically. Yes,
that's exactly what The message is not exactly subtle, is it?
Five twenty five? Right now? If you five care see
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(17:01):
an olympic Yeah, phone calls take priority over local news.
But on the heels of my rant opened up the
morning show. In terms of anti Semitism being embraced by
the Democrats, I imagine this guy's a Democrat Springboro man
arrested on Tuesday, Jackson Ryan Mettler. He's only nineteen now

(17:21):
facing charge of menacing and ethnic intimidation. Yelled f the Jews.
That's not an actual quote, you know, to a person
over at Amberley Village near the Jewish High School, also
yelling free Palestine. Told the individual if I were you,
I'd get my ass back inside. Okay, anybody want to

(17:44):
guess what his political affiliation is. It isn't reported by
Fox nineteen, but you know, I think I can go
out on a limb here and just guess Democrat Tom.
Welcome to the Morning Show. Happy Friday Eve, Good morning.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
And when I call the Snumber and I hear Joe
Strucker on the other end answer the phone, it is
always a comforting feeling glat he's back to la he's
doing better.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
So very yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
Yeah, you uh, you're just you're just touching on another
obvious area of why we we need to make sure
we don't vote for Democrats.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
To speculate, and I know it's speculation because I still
swirling speculation. Why are so many Jewish people Democrats?

Speaker 4 (18:34):
Yeah, that one's I well, I'll try to use a
big word that one has me be funneled as well.
I don't. I don't know, I I really don't. I yeah,
for a group of people who has who has historically
suffered through a lot of hatred throughout the years. You mean,

(18:54):
we can go through history all the way back, and
and uh, yeah, why why would you so forward a
party who is clearly against you, just like as a platform,
as a as a planque in their platform were against Israel,
what I mean? And you're okay with that? And and oh,

(19:15):
by the way, they also support your direct absolute enemies
and you're you're in favor of that? Now, I am?
I am completely confused.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah, now I will acknowledge. I think I have to
interject on that idea about the existence of Israel. I
am certain because there are groups out there that are
Jewish people who do not think the concept of the
Israeli state is okay. The creation of it in the
post World War two reality world, and the idea that
it was taken from someone informed from whole cloth, but

(19:47):
that overlooks the historical reality that the Jewish people are
from the same region as maybe the Palestinians and everything.
It's been an epic back and forth struggle. It's like,
are we going to give the United States of America
back to the Native Americans because we all settled the
United States of America. I don't think that's gonna happen.
I mean, you know, Mexicans gonna claim Texas as their territory,
which they have done from time to time. You can't

(20:09):
unwring the reality and the evolution of mankind generally speaking,
but the hatred of Jewish people and things Jewish, the
anti Semitism is kind of baked into the cake, which
is different than the existence of Israel. So go ahead
back with your thoughts, tom I just wanted to make
sure that I was at least keenly aware and people
knew that. I understand that some Jews do not appreciate

(20:30):
the existence of Israel. So it's beyond that. This is
hatred of the Jewish people apparently, which is out and
out anti Semitism. You could even call it racism. Go ahead,
Tom Well.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
I personally believe that this all goes back to people's
rebellion against God and how he is Israel people are
referred to as God's chosen people and all that. If
you are so anti anything God, you don't want to

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hear about God. You don't want to hear anybody talk
to you about God. You don't want the idea of
there being a God to give you anything like rules
or principles to follow. Know, I'm going to do whatever
I feel like doing it. Don't you dare try to
tell me what to do. I think that's where all
this stems. This all comes out of I don't want

(21:25):
to have anything to do with God. I hate the
idea of God. I mean, think of all the things
that the Democrat Party is in favor of, and you
could just start with abortion. We're going to promote the
murder of innocent babies. I mean, just just that one
issue right there tells me the only thing that the
Democrat Party really wants you to be able to have
a choice to do is to kill babies. Everything else,

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there's no choice. You have to do it this way,
you have to think this way. This is the makeup
of a major political party, and the people that continue
to vote for them are stupid. Period. They're stupid. I'm
gonna I told you, I'm gonna keep hammering that word.
They're stupid. If you vote for a Democrat, you're stupid.

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If you don't want people to think you're stupid, don't
vote Democrat.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Have a great day, Brian, do the same, Tom. I
just wish Tom would stop pulling his punches when it
comes to things like that. Feel free to chime in,
maybe you feel differently five one, three, seven, four nine
fifty five hundred. But maybe he's got a point there. Marxism, Marxism, God,

(22:34):
God is above the state. Marxists hate the concept of
God and religion, generally speaking, the opiate of the masses.
So is religion. You know, It's like Jesus Christ, his
dad was something that was above and uh, the Roman Empire, right,

(22:58):
you don't. You don't answer to the government, You answer
to God. That's sort of a liberating concept, isn't it.
Marxist hate God. The state, of course, is where all
of your liberties and freedoms come from. It's all a
gift from the state. Five forty if any five KRC

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detoxation before I get to the phones, real quick, here, gribbage, Mike,
thanks for showing up yesterday, listener, lunch. I won. I
beat him by a point. I think it was one point. Anyway.
He just sent me a text he was happy that
I won. He gave me congratulations, but we also pointed
out we got the Submarine memorial showing up at Voa Park,
and he suggested that Congressman Warren Davidson has to be

(23:42):
really proud of this beautiful memorial they have. You got
to get out the Voa and check that one out,
and we'll have Mike back on to talk about the
grand opening of that one. It happens. Good morning, my friend,
Submarine or Mike. Let's go to the phone. See what
Jay's got this morning. Jay, Happy Friday E. Thanks for calling.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
This am I on the air.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
You are That's why I said Happy Friday Eve. Thanks
for calling.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
But you said Jay. Yeah, I thought you said.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Jay, but I did argue Jay.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
That's what still I'm still trying to wake up here.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
What's your name? Is is it Jay? Because that's what's
on the call stream board. Okay, yeah, yes, sir, Yeah,
I thought right. Good to hear from you anyway.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
Good to hear, good to talk to you. Happy Friday Eve.
I've been a listener for twenty years and I agree
with you ninety nine point nine percent of the time.
But you've got to disagree about Thomas Massey. And I
was listening to Steve yesterday from Independence, and he sounds
like a really good guy, and you know, I was

(24:40):
kind of disappointed that he said he and his wife
have decided to vote for Massey, because I know he
was on the fence, and you know, I just you know,
if anybody who wants to vote for Massy, I mean,
go ahead, but I mean if you're you're voting for
somebody who's going to pose Donald Trump, and if that's
what you want, I mean, go ahead and vote for him.

(25:01):
But I've been a Republican all my life and I've
always voted for Massy. But he's just gone too far.
He's I don't know what happened to.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
The guy, but well, in what way has he gone
too far?

Speaker 5 (25:12):
Now?

Speaker 1 (25:12):
If you're listening to political ads, it makes it sound
like Thomas Massey is one hundred percent anti Magnam.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
No, I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
I can't wait till election days, all these political ads over.
I don't believe any of it. Good for you, Correct
me if I'm wrong, Correct me if I'm wrong. Wasn't
he the only Republican that voted against a big, beautiful bill?

Speaker 1 (25:32):
I do believe, But you know the context for that.
Usually with everything is contexture. With Massy, is it within
the confines of the Constitution. He is one hundred percent
backing of the Constitution and his very conservative view of
the Constitution. He also is the only I think, the
only remaining and this is no insulting Congressman Warren Davidson,
who also I think is a deficit hawk. Listen, if

(25:52):
you're going to blow the budget up, and the one
big beautiful bill I think does have a Congressional Budget
Office score of increasing the federal deficit, then he's going
to be against it. We have a massive spending problem
on our hands. Our interest payment on the credit card
bill is a trillion dollars a year and within ten
years it's set to double. We are borrowing money to
pay the interest payment. That's that's the antithesis of everything. Massy.

(26:17):
He's the old I love having him there because he
forces the rest of the Republicans to have to reckon
with the reality that they're all a bunch of crazy
spend money like a drunken sale of getting ready to
go to his final grave. People. We got to end this.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
I agree with you, well, I agree with that, but
I meant. But it's a shape the country's in right now.
I mean, I see you can't. You can't just you
can't get what you want.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
I understand that. But Jay, it has been thus it
has ever been fill in the bank. The state the
country's in right now justifies fill in the bank, something
that's antithesis to the Constitution. Oh my god, we've got
a problem here with with an evil foreign country. It
is the situation right now which will allows us to
ignore the declaration of war and the fact that all

(27:03):
that exists in the power. Let's just give it to
the president whatever any topic, the circumstances now justify, which
leads us to the point we are now, which is
forty trillion dollars in the whole and growing with no
end in sight, because well, the circumstances now allow for
it or justify it. I'm sorry, I can't abide by
that anymore. At least Congress from Massy's the one person

(27:25):
saying we're going basically, we're spending ourselves into an absolute
destruction of our country. That's what we're facing. Runaway inflation,
the dollar won't be worth anything. All of that. It's
the only the real existential threat that we have done
to ourselves that somebody, some party, I would argue, should
be in a position to counter. We've got to curb

(27:46):
our spending. No one does that, accept Massy. Yeah, well
that's why I'm in favor of that.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Well, you know, he's against Iran. I mean, if you know,
I mean, is the okay with you?

Speaker 1 (28:00):
No, he's not against there. He is not a fan
of Iran. Going back to the Constitution and even the
War Powers Resolution, you're supposed to have some congressional involvement
when it comes to waging war. That's what the law says.
You can't argue around that. But no one has paid
attention to the law since since after World War Two.

(28:22):
It's that that's right, right, So okay, Master's at least
say it. Wait a second, The president doesn't have this authority.
It's ours, it's the peoples. It's your mind, Jay, as
the will is expressed by our elected officials, not the president.
If Barack Obama was president right now, or Kamala Harris,
god forbid, and she started waging war without your Jay

(28:45):
involvement via your representative, wouldn't you have maybe a different
viewpoint of it. Not whether the war is justified in
some way because the Iranians are a bunch of crazy,
crazy Muslim fundamentalists that want to kill the Jews and
blow up Israel and even the United States. Yes, that's
all demonstrably true. But wouldn't you want to say, wait

(29:06):
a sec Kamala Harris, you do not have the right
to start dropping bombs unless we approve it. That's all
Congressman Massey is advocating for. That's it. It's the broader point,
the fact that the law says something that we are
allowing the president to ignore any president. So that's I'll
defend him all day long.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
This well, I know, I know you're gonna I know
you're gonna send him, and I mean we'll just you know,
we'll have to, you know, like I said, and I
could do and I agree, but this is one time
we're going to have to disagree.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yay. I like the for sentage. Man, I don't expect
anyone to agree.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
And you know, I think Trump was and I think
Trump I kind of thought he was, you know, a
fool when he said, you know, uh, Nancy was a
grand standard. But I think he's onto something because I think,
you know, something happened to Thomas Massey. I mean even
having Gordon thinks.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
So, I mean, well and you think so, and.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
What he has to do, whatever he has to do,
whatever he has to do to get attention. I mean
he you know, he stands on the front steps of
the Capitol with his buddy Rocanna.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
And he's oh, Jay, wait a second, they're politicians, you
know what I'm if you call it grand standing, at
least they're giving him a vehicle. The media actually will
report on it. Why because he's the one, he's the outlier,
and his message comes out and if you hear what
he has to say, he'll articulate it far better than
I just did on his behalf. Why he's the one

(30:32):
being the quote unquote grandstander. He's making a point to
the American public. Wait a second, I said no, because
we're going to kill ourselves spending all this. I'm glad
he gets the microphone. As a matter of fact, it
surprises me that they even give him any media time
at all because of that message. But somebody's at least
providing the message, and it's him, So you call it

(30:52):
grand standing, I call it providing a vital service to
the American public, an actual debate interjection of something that
we all need to be painfully aware of is that
we're spending ourselves into oblivion. Jay, I thank you so
much for calling, and I know I understand where you're
coming from, but I'm sorry. I worry about the future
of this country. You know, long after I'm gone. I

(31:13):
don't think we're going to make it another two hundred
and fifty years on the trajectory we are on. And
I think that's what Massy's ultimate position is. Anybody else
feel free to call in chime in. Jay, Thanks again,
five forty eight right now fifty five kr CD talk station.
Check out your treat the talk station five point fifty
three fifty five KRSD talk station. Before I get over
to the phones real quick. Here comments from my Thank

(31:34):
god he's back where he belongs. Executive producer Joe Strecker.
He said, listen, there's no way I'm going to vote
for a guy who refuses to debate. I mean to
the extent Joe Joetrker could vote in Kentucky. He can't.
And also a guy who won't get back with Joe
Streker with an offer to come on the fifty five
Cassee morning show talk about his policies. Yeah, Gowery will
not debate, and how many times four times you said,

(31:54):
I know retired Colonel Bob Katyre one of my favorite
listener lunch attendee. Thank God for you. Bob Gattire fought
proudly for his country. He's got the wounds to show it.
Big gallery supporter he is because of his military background record.
He said, He goes, well, you got to get Goward
in the program. You got to get Goward of the program.
Joe tried a whole bunch of times. Silence deafening apparently,

(32:17):
so no vote from Joe Stracker. Linda, thanks for calling
this morning, and Happy Friday, Eve.

Speaker 6 (32:22):
Oh same to you. This goes back to your program.
Yesterday I was listening to somebody who was supporting Massey
and he brought up the Tea Party. And I was
going to vote for gol Ray because I thought, Okay,
you've been in there fourteen years. That's long enough. We

(32:42):
need to have term limitations. And then I started thinking
about why did I get involved with the Tea Party.
I went to Washington. I was down at Fountain Square
when it all began, and I carried forth for five
or six years here in Kentucky. Why did I do that?

(33:03):
And it was because government was too out of control.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (33:08):
They were taking excuse me, it's morning.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
It's okay, I get it.

Speaker 6 (33:13):
They were taking over our healthcare now, which we should
not let them do. And Massey I voted for because
he believed in the Constitution and because he believed in
stopping the spending. And I really got a little perturbed
with myself. I thought, how easily I was swayed to

(33:36):
do something else. And I am voting for Massey because
he has the country at art.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (33:46):
Lead doesn't have his back pocket. He's not worried about
what President Trump is going to say about him. He
is standing on a principle that we all should be
standing on. And I just I can't believe that I
was so enamored with the fact that we haven't got

(34:07):
to have termal limitations that I was willing to let
go of the one person that I think I should
be voting for.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Thank you, Linda, you have just boiled it all down.
What a wonderful, wonderful call. I can't thank you enough.
And you started your explanation off. I started thinking, and
you did an excellent analysis in your thought process. I

(34:40):
don't necessarily embrace the concept of term limits because you
know what, there are some great people that you want
to remain in the post because they do exactly what
you said Congress Massey is doing, representing his constituents, not
acting out of political expedience, not acting out of something
that Donald Trump screamed in his ear that he demands
Thomas Massey do. That's one of his commercials, says, I

(35:02):
don't answer to the President. I don't answer to the
Speaker of the House. I answer to my constituents. We
need more politicians like that, and we don't need to
vote them out office just because they've been around along
or because they happen to vote contrary to one president's
personal vested interest. Someone who puts the Constitution and our

(35:23):
bottom line ahead of whatever happens to be the expedient
issue that's presented in front of him. Today five point
fifty seven got a couple more calls online if you
guys want to hold on for a second. Tom new
Hampshire Garrett, I want to take your calls, but I
got to take a break the talk station. I heard
Radio six five and fifty five KRCD Talk Station Friday.

(35:44):
Even a happy one. Why it's happy if for no
other reason than Joe Strecker is back where he belongs.
And thank you to every one of the listening audience
who expressed concerns and offered prayers for Joe Strekker's health.
He is okay, got a clean bill of health from
the doctors yesterday, which is great. Still pray for Joe Strecker,
of course, losing his father and dealing with the aftermath

(36:05):
of that. No one can understate the sorrow and the
emotional reality and baggage that goes along with that. So
thank you Joe Strecker for being where you are and
for producing the fifty five care See morning show. Brother,
we all love you. Man over the phone's gonna go
there five one, three, seven, four, nine, fifty five hundred,
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on AT and T phones. Just a quick reminder, Congressman
Warren Davidson coming up in an hour, Mike Tribble. You

(36:25):
know what works a job that AI cannot replace. And
he's from the Southern Ohio Tech Institute. He's going to
be talking about the trades, specifically tech schools as an
option and the HVAC program. Yes, there is a career
and a nice one waiting for many people out there
in the trades. Mike Triple at eight oh five. And
of course it's Thursday, Jay Ratliffe, I heard me, the

(36:46):
aviation expert, Jay Ratliff at eight thirty. Let's get to
the phones, New Hampshire. Gary was kind of enough to
hold Jeff hold on. Welcome back New Hampshire, Gary.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
Good morning. How are you doing, brother?

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Doing fine? Joey also.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Well, so long as we say a prayer for Joe,
we're also saying a prayer for you.

Speaker 5 (37:03):
You're going to have a tough.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
It's it's chemo day, brother, it's today and tomorrow. Yay,
let's get all rout up for chemotherapy and then I'll
be out on Monday and Tuesday. So thank you give
me that opportunity to remind folks that Dan Carroll will
be covering for me on Monday Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Absolutely, And I was listening earlier, Tom was dead on
it's a rebellion of towards God. But it's also and
you're curious, I've actually been to Israel. Yeah, and a
sixty percent of everybody is secular over in Israel, and
then they have a strong minority that are either they're

(37:43):
Orthodox all the way down to reform. So they've got
ends of the spectrum, just like you do in Christianity. Sure,
and like I'm I'm an evangelical, you know of you know,
old school Baptist. But we have snake candling fathums they know,
you know, we agree with you know, and I forget

(38:07):
who study. But there was a famous radio talk podcaster
twenty years ago who said, most Jews look at it
this way. It's their liberalism trumps their Judaism. And that's
why that that's why that they mostly I mean, you

(38:27):
go to the Israel, it's really liberal in a lot
of sense, you know. That's why they don't have the
First Amendment. They don't. Although they're they're they're better than
anybody else in the Middle East, but they don't have
guns to their civilian populace as a whole. They they
they're a little bit better now, but it's still really
hard for even Jews to get their own people to

(38:49):
get armed up, you know, on a civilian means go ahead.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Liberalism in the sense of they support sort of wealth
redistribution kind of thing. Yeah, okay, but I struggle with
that because they are such a very close knit type community.
Who they go. They've been their backwards to help their
own and I don't find any offense with that. They

(39:14):
embrace the idea of helping other you know, younger Jewish
people succeed in business, they'll support their interests, they'll work
toward them. It's the Jewish community helping the Jewish community.
That is, not the Jewish community offloading all of their
resource to a government and then the government is left
to hand out and support any given human being or
the community. No, they are focused on helping themselves, and

(39:37):
I think that is an appropriate things. There's nothing wrong
with that, but it seems to be the antithesis of
sort of the wealthy distribution, big government handling all the
problems of the world kind of thing. They don't live
their lives that way. They focus on what is in
their best interest.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Well, they're split on that, a lot of them are,
you know, they you know, they're in the kabbutt still
and they believe in sell It's kind of like a
cellular you know, will do okay. Inside our community. They
want nothing to do with the government. And then there's
others who want big wealth distribution and they kind of

(40:15):
find their own happy medium in that.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Okay, well, I guess the takeaway you Hampshire Gary on
this one is like every community that can be put
under any particular label, they vary in their opinions, right
like if you say your Republic, if you say you're
a Christian, well which one like you? To your early part, Well,
I'm a snake handler Christian. Well no I'm not. I'm
a Catholic Christian. Okay, fine, I'll acknowledge that. But if

(40:40):
you pull the Jewish community, you will find the majority
in all cases, over and over and over again are Democrats,
which I think kind of flies in the face of
the you know, maybe the Orthodox community taking them with
the mindset that I a moment ago had about them
helping theirselves, which is again flies in the face of
this liberal mentality.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
Well, you know, just like we have over here Jews
for Palestine or Queers for Pellas, they have Jews for Pelstine.
We do we do.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
There are Jews for Jesus too, my Jewish I asked
about that one time, what about Jews for Jesus. He said,
you mean Christians.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
Well, they actually do have Jews for Jesus. That's uh, well,
they call him Meta. There's a name.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Yeah, I wouldn't know. I just know there's an organization
out there, at least it used to be called Jews
for Jesus. So okay. There that we live in a
confusing world. Gary again, moving back from the the the
you know, the parsing out of individual types of individuals
under any given umbrella. You know, there's a big range
in there. I just am still puzzling, puzzling over this

(41:48):
embracing of what seems to me an anti Semitic. Well,
maybe it's a platform for the Democratic Party. That's what's
I that's what I see emerging here, a platform position.
Yet maybe you don't put it down as being anti
Israel or anti Jewish or simply pro Palestine, which many

(42:08):
Democrats will say out loud that they are. But that's
what's emerging. I look at New York with Mom Damia,
look at the riots and the and the and the
lack and these, I mean, the silence is deafening from
the left on these anti are the these protests that
show up outside of synagogues for example, or the from
the River to the Sea. The eradication of Israel. I mean,
isn't that something that we should condemn conceptually because it

(42:31):
means the literal eradication of humanity in the in the
process silence deafening, which means suggest support for that ideology.
And it seems to becoming exclusively or at least not
really primarily from the Democrats and the left.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
Yeah, they are stiff necked people. According to the Bible,
like I think Tom really had it is, this is
mostly a rebellion against God.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
It perhaps is may be right, And I saw an
article in New Hampshire to that point. All of the
Christian churches, like in Canada there's there like one hundred
and fifty of them have been burned to the ground.
What really, Hm, that's not just black churches in the South.
If you look back at history, you got to go
back a little bit farther for that one. But it's
currently going on all over the globe, this hatred toward Christianity,

(43:18):
no question about it. Gary, thank you so much for
the call. Let's pivot over to Jeff. Jeff, thanks for
holding onto during the discussion there and welcome to the
Morning show. Appreciate you calling in.

Speaker 7 (43:28):
Hey, good morning Brian, Happy Friday, Age and to you
and prayers for your chemo.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Thanks man, I appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (43:36):
Yes, Sir, as I told Joe, I was wondering if
the gal with the sword at the city council meeting.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
Bailed out the gal with the sword of the city
council meeting. Am I missing something?

Speaker 7 (43:55):
She tried to sneak a sword into the Cincinnati City
Council meeting. They tackled her to the ground, they arrested
and oh oh oh.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Joe just just pointed out reminded me that story isn't
my Stack as Stupid. But I didn't read it. I
haven't right, I have it in front.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
Yeah, I mentioned it to Joe. I said, I wonder
if that's going to make your Stack of Stupid list today?

Speaker 1 (44:22):
It is, you know what, I will take your call
as an opportunity to dive on into that since I
didn't do any Stack of Stupid stories this morning, Jeff,
because of course, phone calls take preference. I'm staring at
it right now. You're talking about Alexandria Dalton aka Big Owls.

Speaker 7 (44:38):
As bill ing Bello always said, can't fix stupid.

Speaker 5 (44:42):
Here's your sign.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Thank you Jeff Franks for bringing that one to my attention.
I appreciate it very much. You have a wonderful day,
my friends.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
Sorry for mistening listener lunch yesterday's lake.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
There's always another opportunity, Jeff. That's okay. We'll be at
Anderson Pub and Girl in June and a lot. We're
jumping all over the place between now and the end
of the year, and I think for those folks looking
forward to the final listener lunch before the election in November,
I've suggested the Debbie who lines these up, we need
to go back to Jim and Jacks, which is ultimately
the greatest spot to go before the election. But I'll

(45:14):
give you the full rundown. We get all the places
lined up, but right now it's Anderson Pub and Grill
the first Wednesday in June. Thanks for the call. Brothers sick.

Speaker 5 (45:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (45:22):
I think the last time I was I was there
it was over at Ron's for his roost on Race Rit.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
I love that spot. That's become my mom and my
favorite spot for lunches. Good morning.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
I grew up on I grew up on the West Side,
West side best side.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Yes, thank you for and that's also where the biggest
turnout for listener to lunches always shows up. Thanks. Yeah,
I have a wonderful day, folks. You can feel free
to call five on three seven four fifty eight two
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You're gonna get valuable points at the same time, So
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phone before I get to the Sword, sword Wheeling, Big

(46:20):
Owl story, Jamie, thanks for calling this morning, Happy Friday Eve.

Speaker 8 (46:24):
Thanks Brian, good morning. I love the conversation around Thomas
Massey and I was just thinking, you know, it's not
about finding one or two favorite politicians. It's really about
the people understanding the bigger picture and the founding Fathers
meant for us to be paying attention to that and
speaking out, running for local government, and being responsible for

(46:46):
the freedom that we get. I just wanted to throw
out a book. Doctrine of the Lesser Magistrate changed mine
and my husband's life around COVID. It's a short, easy read,
and it talks about, well, you know, how the local
governments can stand in the constitution and protect the people
from higher level mandates such is what the governor Dwine did.

(47:12):
And in reality, local governments can protect the people from
the bigger entities who are crossing the line. And the
people need to understand that and get involved in you know,
wherever they live, central committee, townships, county commissioners, there's a
lot of powerful positions where they can protect the people
from all of this pyranny. Basically, I agree with you.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
You know, local is where it all happens. Local, local, local.
But Joe Strecker just interjected, you gotta remember you got
to throw any actin in there. So yes, Dwine and
acting working in concert to shut down basically our entire lives.
Keep that in mind when you go to the polls
in November, right, Jamie. Yeah, absolutely, thanks for the call.
I appreciate hearing from you. Back over to a story

(47:57):
that made of the status. It could also be a
local story and thanks a prior caller for bringing this
to my attention. Yes, yesterday's council meeting was interrupted because
Big Awl brought a sword that was hidden insign a
cane into the city council meeting into City Hall. Mayor
Aftab Purval did confirm this Fox nineteen reporting snuck it
into council chambers. Alexandria Dalton I guess refers to herself

(48:23):
as Big Owl. At least that's the way Fox nineteen reporting.
Apparently she's known to since a city council she has
been there right a few times during public comment periods,
and advocates a lot for apparently Piot Park. Anyway, Yesterday,
she told city council that her recent issues with several
Cincinni police officers alleging sexual and physical assault and police misconduct.

(48:44):
Quote from big Al, I am scared of what the
police will do to me in this city. They are
the biggest gang m Someone wrote, isn't this an unrealistic fear?
Next to that quote, Oh, that would have been me.
She also said one of the officers at city Hall
took her cane, but didn't say why. I think we

(49:05):
can all figure that one out anyway. They took her
out in handcuffs, She said while she was being arrested,
I guess, can someone tell me why I'm being arrested?
Can someone please tell me? Please? Don't let them take me.
I didn't do anything wrong. What are my charges? What
are my charges? I have a right to know what
my charges are. Stop. While she was being arrested, again,
this is what they do to citizens who speak out.

(49:27):
I guess it's what they do to citizens to bring
a weapon into city council meetings. Some would argue that, well,
why can't you have a weapon in city council meetings?
We have a second amended right to keeping bare arms. Yeah,
I know, but there are areas where those that does
not apply. Argue amongst yourself on whether you want to
defend this woman or not. But as of right now,
you can't bring a weapon into city council chambers, which
is why she got arrested. Courted the police she was

(49:48):
able to and I'm reading mislead security. She claimed the
cane was for disability purposes. So she's facing four charges
now resisting arrest, inducing panic care, and concealed weapons, interrupting
a lawful meeting. And they say the investigation is ongoing.
There you have it. That's why it's in the stack.

(50:08):
Is stupid local stories coming up or your phone calls
whatever be the talk station six thirty actually fifty five
KERCD talk station got local stories here, take phone calls
if you want to make them. Five one three seven
fifty eight hundred eight two three talk Joe Strekker filmed
me on an additional details about big Al, the sword
wielding woman who interrupted Cincinni City council meeting the other

(50:29):
day and was arrested as a consequence of bring a
sword in. Apparently she's got an Instagram page, and prior
to the meeting, when she got arrested for hiding bringing
the hidden sword in a cane into the meeting, she
bragged on Instagram that she was gonna do it. Joe
said she's got a video on there wielding the sword.
She actually unsheathed it and said she was taking it
to city council meeting. Joe also said she is a

(50:52):
self professed communist. She self labeled Joe right. I mean
she pas that on her site, Yeah yeah, which Joe
astutely observed suggests that she probably voted for the entire
makeup of Cincinnati City Council. Strange world we live in.

(51:16):
Police strategies. Yesterday, Interim Police Chief Adam Henny rolled out
Cincinni Police Department Summer Safety strategy, which has four pillars Visibility, Technology, investigations,
and collaboration, which accorded reporting from WCPO, that's identical to
last year's are nearly identical to last year's summer safety plan.
How that work out? Well? Well, I guess we're going

(51:36):
to find out this year in the second round of it,
Heny said summer activities, police strategies expanding summer expanding this
summer in hopes of curbing crime hops being the operative
word there. I believe to ensure that we provide the
best services we can throughout the summer. Anyway, CPD expanding
its bicycle unit to sixteen officers. They say the bikes

(51:58):
will focus on over the Ryan in the Central Business District.
Isn't that where all the focus is? Some neighborhoods get
overlooked by this current council, don't they? And prior councils.
I suppose what else is going on? More walking patrols,
Henny said, Compared to last year, the number of walking

(52:18):
patrols has increased, at least in April more than four
hundred and forty percent. But they know he didn't provide
an actual figure. He said, this is this unit is
obviously very mobile. We're able to utilize them in different ways,
different neghborods throughout the city. We're able to deploy them
very quickly. This is not if it sounds like I'm
being critical of this, this is not. I'm certain Interim

(52:39):
Chief Henny's ideas. Maybe he's got different ones if he
was let go and was allowed to assign police officers
and police crime the way he would like to do.
I am certain this is a director from Iris Rolli,
which means probably was a director and not I meant
City Manager Shara Long, a director from City Manager Shara Long,
which meant it's a director from IRUs Rowley. Anyway, technology,

(53:04):
they got drones, of course all over the place now,
and of course the curfew, which is funny if you
go to Signal ninety nine, which I regularly suggest people
follow her on Facebook. City of Cincinnati Youth Curfew ordnance,
big Cincinnati Police Department patch logo on top of it
with four bullet points, And I gotta imagine this came

(53:25):
from the City of Cincinnati or the police Department. So
let's read through it together, Shaomi. It is a violation
of curfew for unaccompanied miners that will be children under
the age of eighteen to be in a public place
between the hours of eleven PM and five am. It
is a violation bullet point number two. Public place refers
to anywhere which the public or a substantial group of

(53:46):
the public has access. That's a pretty large swath of
downtown Cincinnati, is it not. Any miner found violating this
curfew operative word may be found guilty of committing a
curfew violation. May a lot of folks focusing on that
may word, which suggests perhaps that they may not be
enforcing it very strictly in terms of issuing citations. More

(54:08):
on that in the moment. Oh and I've glossed over.
I think this flyer this was just that was distributed
and signal ninety nine has posted up came from the
Minneapolis Leering Center because substantial is misspelled. Substantial is the
word that's in the in the release anyway, moving over
that comedy, so may if a miner is found violating

(54:30):
the curfew, they may but probably won't, be found guilty
of committing a curfew violation. And finally, any parent, guardian,
or other adult having the care, custody or supervision of
a miner who violates this curfew here's that word again,
may be found guilty of a minor at misdemeanor. Now,
I did hear Henny in the PLAS conference yesterday suggests that,
you know, it is not our I goal to issue citations.

(54:52):
We do not want to issue citations. And it was
funny because he said, you know, we don't want to
issue a ticket to a miner who maybe got stuck
in an event, is just trying to get home. Our
goal is to get them home safely. Well, that sounds
laudable and admirable. But if the youths that you're just
simply trying to escort home and not issue a citation,

(55:15):
are out running amuck and doing violent street takeovers and
scaring the living crap out of humanity doing what they're doing,
then I think you should probably have them issue of citation.
Maybe that would curb that kind of thing from happening.
Isn't law enforcement supposed to be a deterrence to crime.
Aren't the people who get citations supposed to be the
poster child and the cautionary tale for the others who

(55:37):
might engage in similar behavior. Yes, I know the answer
to these questions are all yes. That's why they're rhetorical.
Where's that philosophy coming from downtown Cincinnati, he asked. Dick
is on the phone. That would be Dick from Tennessee.
I will take your call there if you don't mind
hold for a moment. It's hard to see the talk
station six forty here. I fIF you about KRCITY talk station.
After the top of the our new is Congressman Warren

(55:58):
that Davidson would get the latest on the situation with Ron.
The primary is over, he says, the real work needs
to start now. We've got to get eybody up and
voting in November, without question, without question, voter turnout is
going to be critical to the November election. Sorry, I'm
going to be repetitive on that point from now until November. Dick.
Welcome to the program. Thanks for holding with the break, Dick.
It's good to hear from you from Tennessee.

Speaker 9 (56:18):
Huh yeah, I'm glad he's back. Glad he's healthy.

Speaker 5 (56:24):
But you need to be a good patient and we
wish you the best.

Speaker 9 (56:29):
Thank you very Having said that, I want to say
that I worked as a poll worker in Hamilton County
for ten fifteen years.

Speaker 10 (56:36):
I don't even remember how long, but it was during.

Speaker 9 (56:39):
The transition as we went from the paper signature books
to now what they have the E pold books, which
is kind of useful. It's kind of fast. Checking process
is much easier. But one of the issues that I
always had was after you did your registration, they would
pick up the ballot and they would put the bar
code and scan it. It would be part of your registration,

(57:00):
so that very act right there tied whatever ballot you
marked and was subsequently scanned to the fact that you
had registered at that time. So the concept of a
secret ballot was always in my mind a little bit suspect.
So having now moved down to Tennessee, we just now

(57:22):
use e poll books. But unlike the ones in Ohio,
there is no AT and TU wireless network here. The
poll book stands alone. It was loaded preloaded with the
precinct participants and the people that are registered, and it's
up to date. And I know that because I had
to vote early because I was working, and so I

(57:43):
checked and when I checked, it said I had voted early,
So that was only five days ago, so it's up
to date. The last thing is, as I registered and
I went back to place my vote, there is no connection,
no input, no piece of paper that is inputed into

(58:05):
the voting device. It draws a connection between my voter
ID and how I voted.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
It doesn't go out into the ether. Is basically what
you're saying, Dick, right.

Speaker 9 (58:20):
There is no connection to my registration event and how
I voted.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
So if I can put it in tech Friday Day
of Hatter terms, it's not an Internet of Things device,
then hell no, there you can see I like that. Well, no,
I bring that out because you have to have a
whole lot of faith. If it is connected to the internet,
what's being communicated back and forth. No one should know

(58:46):
who we voted for, how we voted for. But it
raises suspicions that someone is keeping tabs on that because
well you're scanning comment. It goes out into the world somehow,
some way, it's connected to some broader network out there,
so you really don't quite know. So that it requires
a level of faith. It's like a leap of faith,
and quite a few of us don't have that and
can't relate. So disconnect it, I guess, is your advice, Dick,

(59:08):
because that's what they do in Tennessee.

Speaker 9 (59:12):
Yeah, they're completely disconnected, as were the old paper ballots.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
Yes, they were to use. Yeah, in the days before
the Internet, there was no need to cook things up
to the Internet, and yet we were able to make
it as a country now two hundred and fifty years
this year without that, Dick. It's amazing.

Speaker 9 (59:26):
And so France still uses paper ballots and they can
turn around their election results that evening as well. So
there's a boatload of people, including the Election Assistance Commission
at the federal government level. It all has their hands
in making us slaves to this stuff. And what it
requires is public participation and knowledge in this process.

Speaker 3 (59:50):
That's what's important.

Speaker 9 (59:51):
And it also boils down to the other conversation about
Thomas Massey. I listen to those advertisements on your radio
station all day long.

Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
I've met Thomas.

Speaker 5 (01:00:01):
I know Thomas.

Speaker 9 (01:00:03):
Bottom line is he is a good man, knows the Constitution,
and the fact that he had to get into that
deal with ro Connor on the Epstein files and the
law just illustrates once again there are parts of the
executive branch that ignore what Congress does and says. Thomas

(01:00:23):
Massey understands that a lot of people don't.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Correct good points, Dick, And for those want to get
a little bit more enlightenment on the conversation about Congress
and Massey, check out the five o'clock hour. We had
a lot of calls on that some people like Gallering
for whatever reason. Joe pointed out, well, Gallery won't even
debate anyone. He won't come on the morning show and
talk about it. More fundamentally, the one person that always
and regularly stands up and does support out loud the
Constitution and the need for fiscal responsibilities. Sometimes he's the

(01:00:50):
only one. Congressman Massy, we need that voice out there.
I think the reason he's so hated by so many
folks they're elected is because he's calling them out for
what they are. You know, wait a second, it's like
hold on, no, no, no, we are already forty trillion
dollars in debt, we're on a trajectory for fifty or
sixty or seventy. No, your bill, whatever is in it,

(01:01:12):
raises the debt higher and higher, So I can't abide.
You've got to if you want me to vote for
that cut spending elsewhere to pay for it. It's a
great point. He's the only one advocating for that. That's
why we're riding the train wreck to hell right now
with our national debt. No one of any political subscribe
has the will, the backbone, with the exception of commerce

(01:01:32):
from Massing and maybe Senator Ran Paul to speak to
this issue regularly. It's uncomfortable for a president who wants
to ramp up the debt in very large ways. You know,
I can be critical of Trump along those lines. You
know he is not a fiscal hawk at all. Look
at his first term and how much money we spent.
Look at this current term and the trajectory we're on
right now. No one except Massing and maybe Senator Paul

(01:01:54):
care about it. It's the one thing that will certainly
kill our country like it has so much more. Keep
running that printing press. Dick from Tennessee, thank you for
the call this morning, six forty six I fifty five
kersee talk station cover since he do a show with
a genre six fifty one IF fifty five kr cite
talk station right eight eve Congressman Morton Davison at the
top of the Aaron is I think he's a deficit hawk.

(01:02:16):
Congressrom Davidson probably listen to right now. I don't mean
to overlook you, at least in so far as my
praise of Congress from Massey for being a deficit hawk.
And I just wish we had more of them standing
up and out loud, refusing to vote for things that
ramp up our deficit. It's it's tough, so you've got
to be that guy. Got to be that person. Pay
to go over to California where they're all vying to
be the next governor in California. This is crazy. One

(01:02:39):
of them made a mistake and said the quiet part
out loud. It's not even the quiet part. I think
anybody who pays attention to the population California knows they're
hemorrhaging citizen. They leave and go elsewhere where the climate
is better across the board for many reason. So we
have Katie Porter candidate. Well, these California referring to the
sanctuary state policy, which California is. The sanctuary state policy

(01:03:01):
is designed to make sure that our state resources the
tax payer dollars, the public servants that we have are
focusing on doing their jobs, which is not cooperating with
the federal immigration authorities. And here it comes. These are
Californians referring to the immigrant population. They contribute to our
economy broad brush. There not all of them do. Of course,
they pay taxes. Well, yeah, and there's that too, not

(01:03:23):
all of them do. But then you can say the
same thing about American citizens that are here and maybe
born here and live their whole lives here generation after generation,
not paying taxes, wb generational welfare problem we have in
this country. Anyway, moving back to her quote, and they're
one of the only ways that our state has been
growing in recent years. Uh, it's the House of Representatives issue.

(01:03:46):
More people you have, the more likely daers you're going
to have more representatives in Congress. And if your state
has lost a net total of twenty thousand people, if
you don't count the illegal immigrant population, Okay, that's what
they say. Between July twenty twenty one and July twenty
twenty three Californians overall population only grew by twenty thousand
people period of story. And now I bet if you
factor in the following county years, it'd be even fewer

(01:04:09):
people total, because more and more left. All of the
billionaires and millionaires are contemplating leaving if they haven't left already.
But that's a financial issue they have. Back to her
comment population growth driven by illegal immigrants, and then pivot
over to providing health care coverage for illegal immigrants. That
was a topic they talked about as well, and they

(01:04:31):
all basically raise their hands, even though California's healthcare system
is well hemorrhaging and has blown up the state budgets.
Katie Porter, Democrat and former congresswoman same woman, asked the
point blank about the concerns relating to providing illegal immigrants
with free health care coverage. All of these illegal immigrants, who,

(01:04:53):
in a broad breast statement she says, are all paying
taxes and are all working, hard working Californians. Porter, we
can't afford to have people who are sick, who are
making the rest of us sick, She said they should,
before her Republican opponent pointed something out riverside County Sheriff

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Chad Bianco was running as a Republican. They shouldn't be here,
he said. She paused and apparently like looked a bit bewildered,
and said, when anyone doesn't have care, the rest of
us are at risk. When people don't get vaccinations. Now
pause in the middle of her comment on that, isn't
that a COVID nineteen argument. I suppose if you are
a person who doesn't get a vaccination, you are at risk.

(01:05:38):
You have a choice to do that if you want,
should be the obligation of someone else to get the vaccination,
so you don't get whatever it is you're being vaccinated for. No,
that option exists for everyone. So whatever she's suggesting, if
you don't give them all free health care, they won't
get vaccinated, which will make us all sick. That's again
the COVID argument, she continued. When they don't go to

(01:05:59):
the doctor, they wind up in the emergency room. Pause
from Roman and analyze that. Perhaps, but they'll go to
the emergency room if they're in an emergent situation, just
like anyone else, even those with healthcare. They cause longer
lines for the rest of us. Those emergency room visits
by the illegal immigrant population who don't enjoy the benefits

(01:06:21):
of health insurance. Well, ask Joe Strecker about long lines
of the emergency room, and she said, they make our
health care system. They push it to the brink. Again.
I will go to the point is a lot of
people in this country will go to the emergency room
for general healthcare. The immigrant population, the illegal immigrant population,
one of the group that does that. But boy, going

(01:06:41):
back to Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco's point, the broader
point is, well, those problems can be avoided if we
don't allow them into our country. Because they have entered
without authorization, we cannot account for them. We cannot plan
ahead of time to deal with an unchecked, unre regulated
flow of humanity over our southern border. That is the

(01:07:01):
real problem here. We were overwhelmed with twenty million additional
human beings. Say what you want about your humanitarian issues,
but you know what, how can you account for that?
How can you plan ahead of it? Almost with a
light switch, you've thrown that level of population into the
general population, and we already can't afford to pay for
the social welfare programs we got here, Going back to

(01:07:22):
my problem with the national debt. Jeez Louise insanity six
fifty six Right now, if you have Krcdtalk station, Congressman
Warren Davidson after the top of the UR News, stick around,
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six fifty five krs detalk station. Bryan Thomas, wishing her
on a very happy Friday Eve and welcoming as I

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always do, with a big smile on my face and
with great thanks. Congressman Warren Davidson. It's great to have
you back on the morning show, sir, welcome.

Speaker 11 (01:07:51):
Back, definitely, my honor.

Speaker 5 (01:07:54):
Always great to talk with you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
Brian.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
Let us pivot over to the primary. I'm sad to
point out that hardly anybody shows up to vote in
that and that's I mean, obviously the primaries are not
as big of a draw as a general election. But
I think as we look toward November, Wo's emerged for me,
and I think this sort of goes with that, saying
we have to have massive voter turnout on the Republican
side of the Ledger. You know, if you look at

(01:08:16):
the Democrats, a lot of them don't vote and a
lot of Republicans don't vote, What do you get a
fifty percent turnout and a big in a big election.
You're maybe that means fifty percent of the registered voters
don't show up, So it becomes a voting numbers game
question for you, Congressman Davidson. If these high gas prices
and the inflationary reality that this war has caused people
are going to blame Donald Trump for that? Is that

(01:08:38):
going to cause people to vote against their best interests
folks who are traditionally Republican. Are they going to turn
their backs on everything that they believe in and vote
for the other party merely because they're angry about five
dollars gas? Or might they not show up? Because I
suppose both sides of the political ledger are struggling with
that idea. How do you see this plan out in November,
Congressman Davidson.

Speaker 11 (01:08:58):
Well, the scary thing is that people might just withdraw
and not show up. So you think, like, you know,
the people that don't vote in general. You know a
lot of times the political scientists people say, well, that's
because things are good and people are relatively happy. Well
that might be the case for some folks, but I
think what you're seeing from a lot of people is
they just don't trust the system is going to fix

(01:09:18):
it at all, or they don't like what's on the menu.
They're like, no, why would I eat? There's nothing on
the menu I want. And they're frustrated with both parties
because the results haven't been produced that frankly, even when
you go out and elect the majority that you say, oh,
these guys are going to go do the things that
we said we believed in the campaign, rhetoric was so good.

(01:09:39):
You're like, but the doing part. Why are these elected
people that we elected to do things sometimes not just
not getting those things done, but occasionally doing things that
are completely contrary to what was promised in the election.
So I think people are pretty disgusted by that on
some fronts, and at some level, I think even though

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it's the primary instead of the general, there's some warning
signs out there. I mean, there were like twenty two
thousand more people Democrats voted in this primary than Republicans,
and you know, Republicans outnumber Democrats right now, so that's
not a great sign for Republican morale.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
I agree with you completely on that. It isn't And
of course I mean Republicans Democrats suffer equally under five
dollars plus a gallon gasoline pivoting over to Iran. Is
that situation going to be resolved in time for the election?
I mean, assuming that this is that's a get people
up off their butt to go vote issue, high prices.
I worry about that because it's certainly going to generate

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Democrat enthusiasm in November.

Speaker 11 (01:10:42):
Yeah, there's no question that's one of the challenges. A
lot of people are demoralized as Republicans because they didn't
want this, and broadly the country doesn't really like it. It's
not a popular war. And then the results are there's
no free wars, right, I mean, there's a trade off there,
and you can look to it and say, well, it's
great that Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapon. I guess

(01:11:05):
I'm happy about that. But you know, I got an
F one fifty. It costs like one hundred and thirty
bucks to fill that sucker up Man's that's that hits
the bank account for people, and that's a that's a
legit drag on the economy. You see, you know, six
dollars diesel before long, that's going to show up on
shelves and stores. You know, right now it's squeezing lots

(01:11:26):
of things. They're still high demand, and you're seeing some
of the stock market hold strong because the demand is
staying high and people look at it as something that
isn't going to necessarily be enduring. But but you know,
I'm afraid that it may be enduring enough to ripple
even if it was resolved, you know by this weekend,
that there could be some implications even between now and

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the election.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
Indeed, you know, and then the longer term forecast. The
thing that I'm worried about is the fertilizer being held
up because you know, it's crop season. You need the
fertilizer out there to keep cropper eye up. And we're
going to feel an inflationary effect of that if we
don't get that straight open back up and that fertilizer
out into the world.

Speaker 11 (01:12:08):
Yeah, I mean, so there are a lot of concerns.
I mean, this goes back to a lot of things though,
you know, people, I'm a free trade guy. I would
love that we don't have tariffs, but I do think
the right leverage was applied to set things in shape
for a negotiation with China. Because China is really, you know,
the interpound gorilla in the room, and people want to
pretend like everything's fine. We're just trading with them. We're

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trading with them under framework that Bill Clinton spent the
nineties putting together that treated China as a developing economy,
and in the nineties essentially they were. But today there's
the second largest economy in the world. They've got phenomenal
capabilities with their technology, the resources, they growing and strong
middle class, and they're abusing the rules of the trade

(01:12:52):
game to steal intellectual property with their government, like a
whole of government. Their intelligence agencies are targeting and stealing
intellectual property from you know, companies like Cleveland Cliffs, like
how are they making this greatest steel? They'll block it
and shape market access to even get into their country.
Then they'll subsidize and dump and steal market share around

(01:13:12):
the world. And they've done that very strategically. We'll steal
for one. But if you look on pharmaceuticals, we can't
even make our own drugs at scale without China. You
look at fertilizer is a dependency that we have from
a lot of places. But if you want feed for animals,
the vitamins that are enriched, the rare earth minerals and

(01:13:33):
critical minerals. It's not just the mining rights. We've got
a lot of things that we mind. The processing of
it is done in China, so we are very dependent
upon China's supply chain right now. That's with no shocks.
Chips are getting a lot of attention over the past
few years, and the question is what are we going
to do about it? And there may be some temporary

(01:13:55):
suffering to produce a better outcome, but that doesn't mean
that everyone's going to take that into account when they
go vote.

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
Well, and it's going to take a long time to
unravel that. To the extent we try to unravel that
relationship with China, I just find it odd and what
to start contrast to how we treated the Soviet Union
back during the Cold War and how we treated China.
We developed this relationship with China, and you look at
China and you pointed out to the second largest economy
in the world. We built that. How is it that
American taxpayer dollars and the billions and billions of dollars,

(01:14:24):
if not ultimately trillions of dollars we spent in China
building China's infrastructure and offshoring our manufacturing to the communists
in China. I mean, how do we ever view that
as being in our best interest?

Speaker 12 (01:14:35):
Congressman Davidson, Well, look, this was the debate, and both
the Republicans and Democrats and the nineteen ninety two elections
said oh yeah, we're going to make this work.

Speaker 11 (01:14:46):
And Ross Perot was the third party candidate who said,
there's going to be a giant sucking sound of your
jobs leaving the country, and people, you know, discounted Ross Perot,
you know, sad. He's kind of a nutty guys in
a centric billionaire or whatever, and maybe that was a
debatable thing in the nineties. You know, I was in

(01:15:07):
the Army House, focused on army stuff, but I paid
attention to the debate and we look back at the pass.
He's been right, right, he's been vindicated. And it took
really into President Trump in twenty sixteen to have a
presidential level candidate say we're going the wrong way. We
have to change course. And now people are broadly he's
supporting the direction, but they don't want to take the

(01:15:29):
steps necessary to fix it. They're like, oh, yeah, we
are two dependent on China, So what are you gonna
do with it? Well, I'm just going to drop this
order right now because I can get it tomorrow and
it's going to come whereas it Well, it was shipped
to a warehouse. It's sitting here close to me, and
they'll deliver it. The convenience is great, and people don't
want to deal with the changes in the trade regimes.

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I mean, I even talked with talked with law enforcement
who are buying drones to use, and drone technology is
shaping lots of things in the world and they use it.
Or let's just say you're missing a missing person. They
want to go up and find that person. Drones can
do it. They can do it more safely than a
police chase, for example. But you're getting these things for

(01:16:10):
a third of the cost from China, and they're like, well,
there's no American that's equivalent. I'm like, well, the Chinese
are subsidizing this, and they're just amazed that American law
enforcement is putting their tech all throughout the country, I think,
And at the end of the day, that's what we're
up against. It's hard to go against the subsidized price.
And you're like, well, how in the long run does

(01:16:31):
this work out for China. And when you look at
the results, it seems to be working out pretty well.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
Damn well, they're growing pretty strong.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
Yeah, and it is an interesting Trump's first term, he
was warning about this and wanting to write the ship
of our relationship with China for all the reasons you're
talking about that and all the reasons we woke up
to because of COVID nineteen, right, I mean, COVID nineteen
showed up many years after Trump was elected, and lo
and behold, what he was saying is true. We don't
make our own stuff. We find ourselves in a world

(01:16:58):
of hurt. Right now, I think I got more people
on the break the relationship or whittle it down relationship
with China bandwagon Congressman Davidson.

Speaker 11 (01:17:07):
Yeah, definitely. And you know he's headed to China here
later this month. I think this is going to be
a really high stakes situation. I do think China's in
a position to give leverage with Iran. They need the oil,
they want trade to resume. That's why I think that
the navy blockade is smart and strategic and a better
use of resources than getting into a ground war in
Iran more likely to succeed, and China can be useful

(01:17:32):
in that because they want the oil, they want the trade,
and frankly, their economy depends on the trade at this point.
So I think it's a really high stakes negotiation for
President Trump in May. It is, and it shapes the
real superpowers of today, you know, landscape going forward, the
United States and China.

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
Well, I suppose one has to balance. China wants the
straight of Horror moves open for its own economy. Basically,
they need the resources that are coming from from the
Strait of Hormos. Do they need that more than they
need the Iranian thorn in America's side that they have
been enjoying and supporting for so long? What's more important
to the Chinese government?

Speaker 11 (01:18:10):
Congressman Davidson, Well, there's no question having the United States
blogged down in the Middle East has been good for China.

Speaker 1 (01:18:17):
Yeah, I mean we've you.

Speaker 11 (01:18:18):
Know, squandered our wealth. We've made Central Command the focus
all of our effort is heavily focused in the Middle East.
That China is definitely the big beneficiary of the Ukraine War.
You know, great, Well, we can't keep you bogged down.
And then the least, stay focused over here in Ukraine,
keep depleting your treasury doing all this stuff. And you know,

(01:18:40):
at some level, China's worst nightmare is getting you know,
Donald Trump elected president and somebody like peg Seth leaving
the Department of War because now the military is focused
on you know, fighting and winning wars and extreme confidence
rather than you know, pronouns and you know, purple hair
pronoun people and all this nonsense that was going on
under the Bidend Ministry. Isn't that, you know, the direction

(01:19:02):
is the right way for our country. But yeah, to
your point, China would be happy to see us continue
bogged down because we're not paying attention to the Pacific.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
No, we're not. And as you pointed out a moment ago,
we're going through all of our munitions at a very
very rapid pace. Those are costly and they take a
long time to replenish. Pause. We'll bring Congressman Davidson back,
maybe talk a moment about reconciliation, which is on the
plate right now, what that might bring about seventeen right now,
if you have KCD talk station fastened pro I'm sorry, yeah,

(01:19:30):
seven twenty two. If you have KRCD talk station Ryan
Thomas with Congressman Warren Davidson pivoting over to reconciliation process.
I guess my understanding is the House and Senate both
officially pass budget resolution that initiated the reconciliation process, which
means that we don't need sixty votes in the Senate
to get something done. Enter res reconciliation, which right now,

(01:19:53):
the current bill is seventy two billion dollars and it's
primarily to fund ice and and homeland security. So I've
already seen rumblings that people want a third reconciliation build.
Does this one not take on enough? Congressman Davidson, are
you behind this reconciliation process? Where are we on this one? Congressman?

Speaker 11 (01:20:14):
Yeah, This is known as a skinny budget and reconciliations
like think of the Senate as say, running a blockade
on the straight at Hormes, and this the reconciliation is
a complicated process. To break the Senate's blockade. You see
the magic word reconciliation, they go, oh, we don't have
to have sixty votes. We can actually go to the floor.

(01:20:35):
And but and then a simple majority passes the Senate.
There's some strings attached. You can't really do policy. You
can just do spending or more or less spending, more
or less revenue, tax policy, and spending policy. So this
is this is a different because most of the money
has strings attached. A lot of times, you can't really

(01:20:56):
put very many strings attached to this. This is why
it's sort of gas allotting to say, well, we can
attach Save America Act to that. Well, it would be
stripped out because it's purely a policy thing.

Speaker 5 (01:21:06):
You could put some.

Speaker 11 (01:21:08):
Spending on election integrity or something and try to get
a small string attachment. You're not going to get a
major policy through with this magic word reconciliation. The reason
it's inadequate is it accepts the Democrats' terms. You know,
they said, we can fund homeland security, but we're not
going to vote to fund ice and border patrol, so
we're not going to allow you to have the federal government.

(01:21:29):
This is basically the Democrats sanctuary city policy is really
open rebellion to the United States authority. They're basically saying
each city and state around the country is going to
decide the lawful presence or process of removal for foreign
nationals in the United States. I was like, no, that's
clearly a federal role. The federal government decides, you know,

(01:21:51):
this path, and Democrats have locked that in by literally
defunding ice in border patrol. Unfortunately, Senate Republicans accepted that
term and they strung out this shutdown all year. So
recently we voted to fund homeland security. We only funded
homeland security without funding ice in Bortatrol. So this seventy

(01:22:12):
two billion dollars skinny budget. Started to think of seventy
two billion as skinny, but in a one point seven
trillion dollars spending level, that seventy two is a small
small number. So you get one thousand, seven hundred billion
that we spend it in a normal year through the
regular appropriations process. So this just funds three years worth

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of ice in border patrol. It gets us into twenty
twenty nine, so we don't have to keep dealing with
this and funds ICE in Bortrol. But it accepts the
terms of their debate. And that's why the Republicans are
talking about doing a third reconciliation path, because we want
to disarm the Democrats up front as we go into appropriations.
Remember the government's only supposed to be funded until September thirtieth,

(01:22:56):
that's the start of the fiscal year. So we know
Democrats want all of concessions in order to vote for that,
and we don't want another shutdown right before the election.
So the way that you have leverage on that, I
mean to me, the maximum way is you just appropriate
the top line number, all one point seven trillion to
the executive branch and no strings attached, no departments, nothing,

(01:23:18):
just put it all to President Trump and the team there.
And Democrats would lose their minds, right because, like what,
you're going to let them go do whatever?

Speaker 5 (01:23:29):
Yep.

Speaker 11 (01:23:30):
And now I don't think we get the votes in
the House to do that, but you would get Democrats
ready to negotiate, because that would give complete control and
leverage to the president in terms of deciding which department
gets what, how they spend it. Everything would be sent
over as a single line item in appropriations. So they
would lose their mind and of course don't want that,

(01:23:52):
and broadly Republicans don't either. We do want a negotiation,
and Democrats said, oh, it is a negotiation. Now you're
literally shut down our border patrol and our immigration enforcement
in exchange for all kinds of other concessions, and so
they say, oh, but you're not negotiating, which means you're
not surrendering to our demands. And so the only way

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you change that is you set the terms of the
fight instead of the Democrats setting the terms.

Speaker 5 (01:24:19):
Of the fight.

Speaker 11 (01:24:20):
And that's why we want reconsilation.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
Three understood now, question mark, because me being the fiscal
hawk that I am, deficit hawk I am. Can you
defund partners of the government in a reconciliation bill that's
dollars and cents? Why don't throwse some sections in there?
Just pull the plug on a lot of this money.

Speaker 11 (01:24:38):
Yeah, that's exactly what we should be doing. I mean,
those just highlighted a lot of these things, right, and
you know we can we can spend less money on
certain things. We can you know, have offsets to pay
for spending on say three years.

Speaker 5 (01:24:50):
Worth of ice.

Speaker 11 (01:24:52):
We could cut any number of things. I mean I've
proposed I think I proposed like one point two trillion
dollars worth of cuts last last year when we were
doing the big beautiful bill that was reconciliation one point
zero for this Congress. Not the first time it's been done.
I mean, Democrats did it twice under Joe Biden. That
was their Build Back Better initiative and their Inflation Reduction

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Act or Green.

Speaker 5 (01:25:15):
New Deal as they called it.

Speaker 11 (01:25:18):
But they did reconciliation as well. We were doing one.
We want to catch up to them and do at
least two.

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
Well, I guess I'll like can say, is what popcorns out,
Congressman Davidson, and I like your idea, Well, my idea,
your idea stick some defunding in that reconciliation bill, although
I don't see that happening. It's already locked in stone
that it's seventy two billion. There's no more room for
leverage and negotiation at this point.

Speaker 11 (01:25:40):
I I sort of am concluding, yeah, once we passed
the budget that mocks in this two point zero, but
there's so much appetite to do more. Yeah, that that's
why they had to start promising, well, we're going to
do another one, and honestly, that's it would be surprising
if we get it done before the election, honest league.

(01:26:00):
The hope is that we at least get it teed
up so that we can you know, finish the job
in the lame duck period between the election and January third.
So they'll be like the wrap up phase of this Congress,
and then you'll set the next Congress will be the
one hundred nineteenth. We're in one hundred and nineteenth Congress now,
will be in one hundred and twentieth January third, twenty
twenty seven. That's when the new maps take effect and

(01:26:21):
all that. But in this one here, even though the
number is seventy two billion, we could cut spending in
certain other areas in order to do it. The hard
thing is that we just appropriated money for a lot
of other things. So we're fighting against colleagues to say, well,
you can't cut that, Well.

Speaker 1 (01:26:38):
You can't cut that idea.

Speaker 11 (01:26:40):
Yeah, that's going to be the challenge over the next
few weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:26:43):
Indeed, and you know, I saw this article from the
Hill about the Republican infighting over the possibility of a
third Reconciliation Bill, which sounds like a pretty good idea,
especially among opposition, especially among members of the Senate Appropriations Panel,
who believe it's our job, in the words of one lawmaker,
to pass funding for Pentagon and to regular order. So
even Republicans have an opposition this because it sounds like

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they're trying to protect their own turf, which means they're
trying to protect vested interest groups and things like that,
so they can pack their their well advanced, their particular
personal goals in a big broad bill, which means we'll
have to make concessions to the Democrats and a regular order.
That's a problem, Congressman Davidson, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:27:21):
That is.

Speaker 11 (01:27:22):
Unfortunately, when people say you want more by partisanship, you'll
be careful what you ask for because the most bipartisan
thing in Congress is appropriation.

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
Thank you.

Speaker 11 (01:27:30):
The appropriators have been the roadblock. I mean, we didn't
get thirty nine trillion in debt because it's a one
party problem both parties, and they dominate the appropriations committees
in the House and Senate, and that has been the
barrier to getting this magic path through the blockade across
the finish line. Reconciliation undermines the power.

Speaker 5 (01:27:51):
Of the appropriators.

Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
See, we are our own worst enemies sometimes. Congressman Davidson,
thank you so much for your time here on the
fifty five KC Morning. Shaw'll look forward to having you
on again real soon and keep fighting to fight, my friend, Please.
Station seven forty fifty KRC DE talk station that'd be
Friday Eve. It's interesting Congress Moore and Davids, I'm talking
about that third Reconciliation bill, and the Republicans won't even

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embrace the concept. This is really a workaround of the filibuster.
But you can only do dollars in reconciliation, as he
pointed out, you can't do policy changes, which is why
the Save Act isn't attacked. Would the Rules Committee, the
person that lords over what is and what is lawfully
allowed in a budget reconciliation, would just strike it out
of the bill. It's a valid point. But you have

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the option of the nuclear option, which is getting rid
of the Senate rules, which requires sixty votes to prove something.
So's swirling around that. But this idea of going with
the third bucket budget reconciliation really kind of focuses our
attention on the Republicans who are against it. This turf battle.
These are all children fighting over their control over the

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And if you want to keep the control over the
flow of dollars, and so your people in your state
or your fun favorite outside entity gets what you are
advocating on their behalf for well, you got to make
concessions to the Democrats do the same thing. That's regular order.
That's the sausage making we talk about. It's kind of
an eye opening article on the Hill. The decision to

(01:29:21):
advance and nearly focused budget reconciliation build a fund immigration
enforcement operations in later this month has sparked a battle
among Senate Republicans over whether to pass the third Reconciliation
Bill before the election. Some Senators Republican want to advance
this third re budget Reconciliation bill. Ted Cruise, for example,
is one of them. Okay. Senior GOP colleagues on the

(01:29:43):
Senate Appropriations Committee, though, aren't liking it. Well, that's their turf.
They're worried it may further diminish their power and the
regular appropriations process. GOP senators growing increasingly pessimistic about achieving
it many partisan legislative accomplishments after they enact this most
recent one funding ice and border patrol. Republicans say the

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growing opposition within their conference about this third Budget Reconciliation bill,
especially those on the Senate Appropriation Panel, who claim it's
our job, said one mone maker. One lawmaker out loud
to pass the funding for the Pentagon in a regular order.
According to one GOP senator, who spoke on a condition
of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of attacking his colleagues. Quote,

(01:30:30):
there are some who are saying, look, we know the
House is gonna flip, and so this is basically our
last opportunity to really do anything. So we've got to
go for the gold ring. We've got to put everything
that we want into a reconciliation, built the third one,
because we're not gonna be able to legislate. We're not
going to be legislating anymore. But the lawmaker pointed out
there's a group of GOP colleagues pushing back on that

(01:30:53):
very argument, saying Republicans need to rely on budget regular
budget reconciliation to get the funding and other legislative priorities
around democratic filibusters. I refuse to accept that, the senator said,
pushing back on the claim that Republicans need to pass
this third reconciliation, build a fund military priorities. Second senator

(01:31:14):
confirmed there is strong opposition to that third option within
the Senate Republican conference, especially among appropriators who fear it
would undermine efforts to work on a bipartisan basis to
pass regular appropriations bill. The GOP Center, arguing that repeatedly
arguing relying on budget reconciliation to circumvent the filibuster has

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undermined the Senate's tradition of working on a bipartisan basis
to get things done. Sausage making, that's the tradition. We're
supposed to sit down and make concessions to the Democrats
so we can get them to make concessions to us,
so we can pat the backs of our favorite friends,
and we'll overlook the fact that you know, they got

(01:31:57):
what they want. This is sausage making. I don't know,
it's quite revealing. You would think, you know, in the
interest of America, that they could all sit down and
accomplish something together and give up on their personal bright
and shiny objects the payback they got for getting the
votes and getting the campaign contributions. Isn't that what It

(01:32:20):
all comes down to, the power and control of any
individual senator to give their any given sex segment of constituents,
I might point out, not to us collectively, but give
his favorite handouts from our labor in the form of
taxpayer dollars to their best friends out in the world.
That's the sausage making and that's the regular order that

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they insist on going through rather than taking the easy
path and getting something actually accomplished before the election, when yeah,
the Republicans may no longer be in power and may
not even have the option of doing reconciliation in the
first place. Seven four nine fifty five hundred, eight hundred
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Happy Friday Eve coming up after top of the hour,
looking forward to this. The trades are the way to go.
I don't pay for a two hundred gajillion thousand dollars

(01:33:25):
for a college education unless you're getting a real degree.
Even that's going to come with a heapload of baggage.
But you know, to get an engineering degree, for example,
I guess you got to go to a university and
spend four years that or y you take courses like oh,
music appreciation to get your humanities under your belt, even
though there's no real point at all in having to
take classes like that. That well, if you want to

(01:33:46):
avoid the headache and hassle of a very expensive college
degree and you want a really good living and a career,
career is a good word. Trades are the way to
go these days, and more and more people embracing the concept,
and someone who definitely embraces that concept. For the top
of the air news, Mike Tripple's going to join the program.
He's with the Southern Ohio Tech Institute. There are tech
schools out there you can earn while you learn. You

(01:34:08):
can be an apprentice to a journeyman and become a journeyman.
You can be a union member if you want, and
you'll have a job that artificial intelligence if you're worried
about that can't replace, like HVAC. And that's what he
wants to talk about after the top of the news.
The Southern Technical Institute HVAC program just one option for
folks out there that are kind of worried about AI
or want a career that will satisfy them without the

(01:34:32):
baggage and the debt that a four year college degree
will bring about. I started off this morning on a rant,
and I just want to go back to it a
little bit. I'm just so I'm incensed by all this,
and I don't know that anyone's getting away with anything,
at least in the sense like when a loon leftists
runs around and screams about Trump being a Nazi, I

(01:34:53):
know that they're crazy. There is nothing in Donald Trump's
record or history that suggests he's a Nazi, although they
regularly refer to him as the embodiment of Hitler, which
you know might lead some people to want to assassinate him,
because lord knows, we don't want any more Hitlers around.
But what evidence do you have that suggests that he
is in lockstep with Hitler? Huh? I mean the Democrats

(01:35:15):
seem to be the ones that are anti Semites out
in the world. I went on a round about that
in the five o'clock hour as well. But this Graham Platner,
guy senate candidate and the leader. Right now, there's only
one challenger left to this guy in Maine Senate candidate
in Maine. The challenger is David Costello, and apparently a
pretty decent guy. He was the States the Party's nominee

(01:35:38):
for Senate back in twenty twenty four. They say he's
got all the liberal check marks. He's born and raised
in Maine. He doesn't have a Nazi tattoo on his
chest either. That's right. The toten cof the Grand Plantner
had proudly displayed on his chest until we found out
about it when he started running for Senate the Senate,
and I guess he got it, you know, painted over
or tattooed over, so it doesn't look like a toten
coff anymore. Anyway, it's synonymous with Nazis. You don't get

(01:36:01):
that tattoo unless, well, you're a sympathetic person to the
Nazi cause. So you could more properly call this Graham
Platner guy a Nazi than you could Donald Trump. Why, well,
there's evidence he's sympathetic to the Nazis right there on
his chest, now covered up. And some of the comments
he's made are pretty crazy when especially when they come
from a self professed Democrat calling people gay and using

(01:36:24):
the word gayest as putdowns. Yeah he did that, and
yet that's where people are leaning. There's no outrage from
the Democrats about this, and probably not enough outrage from
the Republicans. Although you may hear it before November. It
was an op ed guy in the New York Times,

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of all place, is one of the more left leaning
papers out in the world. Graham Platiner isn't my ideal
Senate candidate, not even close. I'm deeply troubled by the
thinness of his political experience, oh lacking experience. He is too,
by the primacy of raw anger in his appeal to voters,
and the oddities and ugliness from the Nazi tattoo to
a fondness for gay and gayest as put downs. It

(01:37:05):
is not too distant past. It's a lot to overlook. Well,
you would think that would be the setup for No,
We've got to vote for and push for the alternative
we have in Maine as Democrats. David Costello, the guy
just mentioned. But what does he conclude? But if I
lived in Maine, I'd vote for him in November. Huh

(01:37:29):
how about that? So where's the outrage from the left
And there wouldn't be any wood there. But this is
the kind of world we're living in now. That evil
Orange man is a Nazi gets traction and you can't
escape the accusations. It's almost baked into the cake. Anytime

(01:37:49):
a Democrat talking heads on any form of media, it's
blah blah blah blah, Donald Trump, Nazi, evil Orange man,
pedophile and rapist. And here they got one of their
own camp and he's leading. You might have a Nazi
sympathizer in the Senate, and that might work well for

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the Democrats, who, again on my rant this morning, the
five o'clock I was, seem to be rather anti Semitic
in their pronouncements about Israel and their protests against Israel
and their well support of October seventh, for example. Eh, well,
you know you can have them, Democrats, you want to
be the party of anti Semitism. I was a plea
for all my Jewish friends out there with a scratching

(01:38:31):
my head question this morning, sort of wondering why it
is that on a percentage basis, the Jewish people are
predominantly Democrats. And if you had to sort of step
back and boil things down, which party seems to be
representing or at least somewhat sympathetic to the anti Semitic
cause these days? Yep? I think you can only have

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my perception. I love talking to him. But in the meantime,
I'm gonna love talk having this conversation because I am
concerned about AI, and I know there's a concern from
people out there that artificial intelligence might eliminate their job.
That's a legitimate concern. Some people are already losing their jobs.
Mike Troubles on the phone. He's with the Southern Ohio
Technical Institute. Mike, good to have you on the show
this morning. Welcome sir. And will artificial intelligence remove HVAC

(01:39:37):
text from the job from their jobs?

Speaker 10 (01:39:39):
Mike, No, I don't think that's gonna happen in the
very your future are ever at all. You know, we're
always gonna need that cold can of Coca cola, and
we're always gonna need to be kept warm when it's
zero outside. We're gonna be need to be kept cool
when it's ninety outside.

Speaker 1 (01:39:58):
Amen. For sure, the trades are a great option. I mean,
what do you want to do spend two hundred thousand
dollars four years, get a woke degree that no one
wants to hire you for that might be eliminated by AI,
or do you want to go to work? I guess
in as short as ten weeks, Mike, I mean in
a career, in ten weeks. Have I got the time
frame rate to learn how to be an HVAC tech?

Speaker 10 (01:40:17):
Absolutely? I mean it's ten weeks. It's ten weeks. We
give you the basic essentials that you need to get
started in the trades, and you get all your certifications
you need to be able to work in the HVAC industry.
So that's a very very important thing. We basically we
can take you from a classroom to pay check in

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ten weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:40:39):
That's truly amazing, not four years, ten weeks, and not
with a couple hundred thousand dollars even one hundred thousand
dollars in debt for a four year degree. If you
had to pay out a pocket and I know they're
financing options. I mean we can dive onto this a
little bit, but tuition is very reasonable for a ten
week program, sixty five hundred bucks. Have I got that right?

Speaker 5 (01:40:58):
Yes, it is sixty five hundred dollars. That is correct.

Speaker 10 (01:41:01):
And by the way, Bryan, the certifications that you get
in that ten week program are more aggressive and you
get actually five certifications in the ten weeks, where a
lot of the other six hundred hour programs only give
you two certifications.

Speaker 1 (01:41:19):
Wow. So you're more qualified to get one of the
open jobs that are out in the world than someone
who took the longer program. And question Mike, and I
think I know the answer this one because I'm at
your website, which my listeners can find at s O
t I h HVAC. Sohow technical uit s O t
I soddh HVAC dot com. Are there job opportunities out

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there for folks in the hva C business there?

Speaker 5 (01:41:43):
Mike, Oh, are you kidding me? It's growing so fast
it's just unbelievable.

Speaker 10 (01:41:51):
You know, we're gonna need We're going to be facing
a shortage of around one hundred thousand technicians coming up
here in the next five to six years, Okay, and
you know we just don't have those technicians to uh, Uh,
to fill the spaces. Uh, we're having what we call
in the industry a h the silver tsunami. That means

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all the silver haired guys like myself and you're the
other guys that are in their fifties and going in
their sixties, they're retiring, okay, and there's nobody do to
take their place.

Speaker 5 (01:42:22):
We need these young people. We need this young.

Speaker 10 (01:42:25):
Blood h in there and and pitching in and and
taking over.

Speaker 3 (01:42:29):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:42:29):
Given the demand for HVAC career opportunities out in the world,
the fact that there is a great opportunity to get
employment and there aren't enough bodies there to to take
those jobs, there might sounds to me like the opportunity
for an increase in pay might exist. The laws of
economics suggest supply and demand. If there's a limited supply,
then then the money might even get better than it

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already is.

Speaker 5 (01:42:52):
Absolutely it's uh, you know, I'm glad you brought that up. Mind.

Speaker 10 (01:42:55):
You know, the the money in the trades had really
gone up and in the past few years, and the
opportunities okay that you can do in the trades have
gone up simply because the HVAC industry, the technology that's
going into the equipment is course is a lot more advanced.
So the skill level of these young technicians coming into

(01:43:18):
the field, they have to become more advanced, and we
have to training to do that. Therefore, it's like a
you know, a regular family doctor or a heart surgeon. Okay,
we have to specialize them and get them prepared for
this new equipment that's coming in in this new technology.

Speaker 1 (01:43:36):
Well, it is indeed new equiping, new technology. I've had
a geothermal system now for all maybe ten years, and
it's just basically a computer. I opened that thing up
and it's just all electronics in there. So you'll train
folks how to work on that kind of thing, and
that's that's the way everything's going, right.

Speaker 10 (01:43:52):
Yeah, Yeah, Well that and you know we got all
the new stuff that's that's coming in. All the new
technology is is really becoming a lot more advanced. For example,
you know the new heat bumps that are out on
the market. A few of those things they're capable of
extracting heat down in minus ten. Now, so that you
didn't have that technology ten fifteen years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:44:13):
Well, what kind of money are we talking about? Big
elephant in the room, is okay, sounds good? Jobs there,
it's a quick course. I can get on my feet
and earning money in a very short period of time.
What kind of money were talking about, Mike.

Speaker 5 (01:44:26):
We're usually talking entry level.

Speaker 13 (01:44:28):
Why they're being trained around the twenty dollars an hour
level while they're being trained, or eight hundred dollars a week,
or if you want to look at it on an
annual basis, about forty thousand a year while you're being trained.

Speaker 10 (01:44:42):
That's a base salary, not including your overtime. So I
would say by the time you would lead, you actually
get settled into your job, trained and doing what you
need to be and they can actually the company that
you're working for can actually start doing their charge out
timed against you. You should be up to the seventy
five eighty thousand dollars a year, I mean somewhere in

(01:45:03):
the next three to five years, Mike.

Speaker 1 (01:45:07):
Joe Strecker is filling out the application now, he said,
but that's eighty grand, you know, for ten weeks of education,
and no doubt. I'm sorry, there's no downside risk on
this one. What's it like being in the HVAC trade
on a day to day basis, I mean, what are
you kind of doing day to day.

Speaker 10 (01:45:28):
Well, you know, I'm glad you brought that up, and
I want to bring another thing of just bring it
to your attention real quick, Bryd. You know, we're actually
celebrating what we call a National Skilled Trades Day, which
was yesterday. The skilled trades have been basically swept under
the rug and we haven't been It hasn't been pitched
by the.

Speaker 5 (01:45:49):
High school counselors or any name. But let me tell you.

Speaker 10 (01:45:52):
You know, the skilled trades, okay, basically keep everything all
the every aspect of the building facets, every aspect of
the building industry. Uh, everything from maintenance to new construction. Uh,
we keep everything hitting on a from keeping hitting on
all eight I should say, yeah, we keep your food cold,

(01:46:14):
we keep your environment clean and uh and your air
clean to breathe.

Speaker 5 (01:46:19):
I mean, it's it just goes on and on and on.

Speaker 10 (01:46:21):
So we're finally getting recognized, okay that you know, Hey, listen,
this is a very viable trade. And now the all
that not just the HVAC trade, all of them, the plumbers,
the electricians, Listen, we've been swept under the rug for
a long time and it's about time, you know, that
everybody understands that. You know, we are an essential part

(01:46:42):
of this society too. Okay, we need to be recognized
and uh and I think that's that's all making a
full circle now, Brian.

Speaker 1 (01:46:49):
Amen. You know absolutely there's no argument against that at all.
And we rely on so many people doing this type
of work, and I think so many people take it
for granted. You know, I'm again, I refrigerators broken. I
don't know what to do and just call somebody. Okay,
you're calling somebody who's keeping the world running. And that's
the trades and the jobs that aren't going to be eliminated.

Speaker 5 (01:47:09):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:47:10):
Is this commercial as well as residential that you train
people for, Mike.

Speaker 10 (01:47:14):
Actually, what we do is we do we really hit
on a couple of key things. The refrigeration cycle, temperature
pressure relationships. We hit heavy on that so they understand
what they're doing, and then we also hit heavy on electrical.

Speaker 5 (01:47:31):
Those two key things is what our school.

Speaker 10 (01:47:34):
Really zero ends on, zero ends on because that is
what they need, the boots on the ground that they
need to really make their career grow, whether they decide
to go with install part of it or whether they
decide to go with the servicing end of it. We
given the boots on the ground train they need to
get started, and of course the certifications they.

Speaker 1 (01:47:55):
Need, so you have the core information you need. And
then presumably if if a person graduates from from the
Southern Ohio I'm sorry, I stumbled here, Southern Technical Institute,
they would go to let's say a commercial manufacturer, a
commercial HVAC and that's where they would learn the specific
skills for that particular company, like a journeyman apprentice kind

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of relationship. They get the extra skills, the icing on
the cake when they're on the ground, working and earning.

Speaker 10 (01:48:24):
Yes, because here's the thing. Every company is different, okay,
every company has a different job approach. So they they
would like to they like to get these guys okay,
out of our school that are all licensed, they all
have their certifications in the and they like to break
them in and train them, okay, to be applicable to
their company and their job approach.

Speaker 1 (01:48:46):
Well, I was thinking the reason, I guess kind of
the reason I asked that I was involved in a
litigation involving a very very large food manufacturer was a
Kannager facility out in Nebraska, and it had an anhydrous
refrigeration system that blew up. So obviously they need help
fixing that thing. But that's a that is a horse
of a different color. Those anhider's simmonia systems.

Speaker 5 (01:49:09):
Yes, let me tell you something. I can go way back.

Speaker 10 (01:49:12):
Of course, I've been doing this since nineteen seventy one
seventy two.

Speaker 5 (01:49:16):
But I went to work.

Speaker 10 (01:49:17):
I did work for a company in the local piper resunion, L. J. Quinn,
back in the late seventies, and we worked on a
few of those ammonium systems. And I'm here to tell
you when those spring of the league, okay, it clears
it out of We could always tell how serious it
was by the For an example, one of the old.

Speaker 5 (01:49:36):
Companies here was Hutting Bowner Meets and we got over there.

Speaker 10 (01:49:39):
They had that old frack commonia system in there, and
when by the time we got there, all.

Speaker 5 (01:49:43):
The all the help was out in the parking lot. Yeah, okay,
it clears you out quick.

Speaker 1 (01:49:48):
Yes it does. And we'll also ruin all the product
in the refrigerator facilities, notably like a one point five
million pounds of mint.

Speaker 5 (01:49:57):
Throw it out absolutely, But you know, as bad as
it stinks.

Speaker 10 (01:50:01):
Brian you know, it's not the the aquamony and stuff
that's not It doesn't hurt the actually it dissolves into
the atmosphere. But yeah, it's bad. It's a bad one,
that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:50:13):
That's why they need experts that know the HVAC world
and the experience and have it. You start at the
Southern Ohio Technical Institute sod dosh eight dot hvac dot com.
Just Trekker will add the link to your site up
on my blog page fifty five cars dot com. There's
opportunities out there and great pay and you know, I
still reel of the fact that you're ready to hit
the ground working in ten weeks. That's just phenomenal for

(01:50:35):
the low low price of sixty five. And I understand
you can get help with paying the tuition costs.

Speaker 5 (01:50:41):
Yes you can.

Speaker 10 (01:50:42):
Yeah, we do have We do have in house financing,
okay that we have at school. So you know, you
can basically come in and you can make a reasonable
down payment if you don't have it all, and we
can actually take you over a two year period and
you can finish off.

Speaker 5 (01:51:02):
You're dead.

Speaker 10 (01:51:03):
And it's usually it's under one hundred and fifty bucks
a month.

Speaker 1 (01:51:06):
Fantastic, and you'll be working so you have money to
make the payment back to the Southern Ohio Technical Institute.
Mike Trible, as there is no bad news in our conversation,
and I know that the trades are in desperate need
of young people. Don't go to college, get in the trades,
enjoy life, start working, and you'll have a career and
it'll serve you well throughout your life. Mike Trible, Thanks
for the great work you're doing over there, the people

(01:51:27):
you're employing, and I'll hope that some of my listeners
pass the information along to the young people out there
and you get the phone ringing today. Mike.

Speaker 10 (01:51:34):
Yeah, absolutely, Thank you so much, and I'm glad that
everybody is coming on board with the trades. And yeah,
we look forward to getting a lot of young people
out there and working for sure, I know you do.

Speaker 1 (01:51:46):
Mike. Thanks again, we'll talk again down the road. Take
care and have a wonderful weekend eight nineteen at fifty
five care see the talk station five care, see the
talk station Hey twenty two. If you have care, see
thee talk station. Ryan Thomas right here, wish nermand a
very happy Friday Eve, looking forward to the next segment
because we get iHeartMedia aviation expert Jay Rattliff. And speaking

(01:52:06):
of the trading, I'm so proud of my future son
in law. He's in the trades. He's doing great. I'm
happy my daughter is marrying Eric. He's up on roofs
doing roof inspections and doing quotes for Fast and Pro
and he makes a very nice living doing that. And
he's an outdoorsman too, so that job fits in perfectly. Now.
My daughter took a different trade pass She got the

(01:52:26):
four year degree and then a master's. She got a
horticulture degree and I have stayed in a master's in
plant genetics. But she's using those degrees in the trade.
She works for commercial greenhouse. Good morning to my friends
at Burns and my daughter who works in these massive,
massive greenhouses. You know, she's responsible for nutrients and the
air quality and knows all there is that what the
chemicals and diseases. But she's outdoors all the time. She's

(01:52:51):
in this great environment. She just absolutely loves it. And
I can imagine, you know, working at a big commercial
greenhouse like that, it's got to be a lot better
than working in an office building and sitting in a cube.
Just the thought, just throwing it out there. And tomorrow's
Tech Friday with Dave Hatter, I had this really funny
article since I just an opportunity to mention to remind

(01:53:11):
everyone six point thirty every Friday Tech Friday with Dave Hatter.
He eat his warnings. This is really funny. The United
Kingdom has something called the Online Safety Act. It's a
safeguard to keep children away from dangerous content on the internet.
So what do you need to do? You need to
prove your age. So what are they doing? Well, they've
done a workaround. The children in the United Kingdom are

(01:53:32):
as smart as children everywhere. Hmm. I got an impediment
to get an online here. I want to serve porn.

Speaker 10 (01:53:36):
What do I do?

Speaker 1 (01:53:37):
Simply enter a fake birthday, borrow someone else's log in,
or comically, this is the funny pot use fake mustaches
or draw fake mustaches in order to fool the facial
age estimation technology which is built into this Online Safety Act.

(01:53:59):
That's right, go to the novelty shop, get yourself a
fake mustache, sit in front of the computer, and it
will think you're an adult. They said, Actually one parent
actually admitted to catching her son using an eyebrow pencil
to draw a fake mustache on his lip and watch
the system promptly verify him. Hmm. Some suggest this is

(01:54:22):
all a ruse. It never was intended to be able
to properly verify a child's age, and the revelations of
the ability of people to circumvent the age verification we'll
draw us ever closer too. Are you ready? You know
it's coming mandatory digital ID for see the talk station

(01:54:43):
Hey thirty on a Thursday. It is that time. I
always look forward to this. Talking with Jay Rath is
always an enjoyable experience, regardless of what you're talking about
with them, but on this show, it is almost always
focused on aviation because he is iHeartMedia's aviation expert. Welcome back,
my friend, Jay. It's always great having you on the show.

Speaker 3 (01:55:03):
Were your morning and it was good to hear Joe's
voice this morning.

Speaker 1 (01:55:06):
I know, and I reminded my listen. I want to
thank everyone for the prayers they sent out to Joe.
He got a clean bill of health after a little
medical emergency scarey yesterday and it frightened the crap out
of me. Jay Ratlift because you know about Shoe Man,
it just does not work without Joe. In spite of
the fact that Danny did a really good job, I
don't want to discount the Danny's affterrom. Now, Joe's the
machine that makes things work around here. So that's the

(01:55:26):
challenge Show Prayers work up. Latest on the United Airline
flight to hit a truck. This was the in Newark, right.

Speaker 5 (01:55:34):
It was.

Speaker 3 (01:55:34):
It was on final approach coming in from Italy and
as it came down, it hit a light pole and
then impacted apparently a bakery truck that was just mining
its own business, tooling down the expressway there in New Jersey. Now,
the video that was inside the cab of the truck,
the video that they had was horrific. Thankfully, we knew

(01:55:59):
the driver survived because you actually hear the airplane coming in,
and you hear louder, louder, louder, and then you see
the tire out his left window and then the camera
goes static. So immediately we had everybody from Sean Duffy
to others talking about pot pilot air and other types

(01:56:21):
of things, and I was just like time out here.

Speaker 4 (01:56:24):
No no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (01:56:24):
We got the National Transportation Safety Board that's coming in
to do their usual outstanding all star effort, and it
could be pilot air. We don't know that. There could
have been some computer issues on the flight deck that
was providing faulty, faulty data to the crew. There could
have been a mechanical issue at play.

Speaker 1 (01:56:43):
Now, it could have been a software upgrade. They didn't
bother telling the pilots about that. I'm bumped.

Speaker 3 (01:56:49):
Yeah, let's hope not right. So, but you know, and
you know this, the light pole hit a jeep and
then the plane apparently hit the truck, and I have
a lot of people that are, oh, you know, he's
set for life. And I'm thinking I've been around people
that have been one of the few or only survivors
of a plane crash, and when you talk with them

(01:57:11):
and you see what they go through, I'm sorry, no
amount of money in the world with some of this
serious PTSD that people have to suffer through for the
rest of their life is worth it. And sometimes I
grow really tired of people that are looking for a
quick payday at any expense. And this poor guy you
talk about praying for him, I mean, he may be okay,

(01:57:33):
you know, physically eventually, but mentally, I mean, you just
hear that engine coming down on top of you, because
that's what you were hearing. That video is just again,
just absolutely horrific. But I am very confident that the
NTSB will find out exactly what took place. They'll give
us a preliminary report thirty days after and the final

(01:57:53):
report eight to ten, maybe twelve months from now, and
they'll outline exactly what happened. We'll learn and we'll commercial
aviation safer as we're also result thankfully, everybody on the
plane safe, the poor guy on the truck safe, and
everybody else on the undert I mean, can you imagine being.

Speaker 1 (01:58:08):
The car behind the truck, Oh lord, I seeing it happened,
I mean, anywhere in the area Jay. And of course
compensation won't cover his PTS, but it will at least
reimburse them for the shorts that he ruined.

Speaker 3 (01:58:21):
Well, well, and you've been around people that have had
to go through these things where you know they've had
to sue for damages in this regard, and it's it's
not a big party that everybody else thinks it is.
So again, I just I'm just praying he's gonna be okay,
because that looked like a young guy. But you know,
with any luck, he's scared to fly, so that's why

(01:58:42):
he just drives right. Yeah, So.

Speaker 1 (01:58:46):
That I'll come back with, well, yeah, that's the other
element of damages. Not only you have post traumatic stress
if money can't pay you for but you probably will
never get on an airplane again because look what can happen.
You scare the hell out of me every week on
this program, Jay Ratliffe, and I've never been a real
big fan of flying. Anyway, we'll bring Jay back. We'll
talk about some actually some really nice gestures in the
airline community about Spirit Airlines employees losing their job and sorry,

(01:59:11):
distance means service sucks to beu if you're on a
short flight apparently on Delta. More with Jay Radliffe coming
up fifty five karc Hey get me talls station. Have
you ever been in a cockpit before?

Speaker 12 (01:59:23):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (01:59:23):
Thirty agent about fair Cee Talk Station, Jay Radliff, Haancys
I heard media aviation expert. We are enjoying the pleasure
of Jay every Thursday, beginning at a thirty through the
end of the show, which I dearly love. Pivoting over
here Before we get to Spirit Airlines, I I saw
your note here. British Airways is paying pilots one hundred
thousand dollars a year to not fly. How can we

(01:59:46):
get at jus Jrekcker wants to apply for that job.

Speaker 3 (01:59:49):
Well, you have to be qualified to not fly. And
let me explain why they have flights coming into Chicago's
O'Hare airport. Where you're coming in from let's say London.
He throw your You're landing at Chicago, you go to
the international arrival terminal, your gate, you're dropping passengers off.
The passengers have to get off the bags and prey

(02:00:09):
to have to get off. You've got the aircraft inspection
that takes place, and then once customs is finished with you,
that crew then taxis the airplane back over to the
other side of the field where it's needed for the
next flight. Now, the delay and the time you arrived
in the time everything gets off the plane and the
inspections are done, to the time that you're able to
slowly taxi that aircraft all the way over to the

(02:00:32):
outside of the airpor where it needs to go is considerable.
Sometimes it can be several hours in duration. A lot
of these pilots are timing out because they're on continuous
duty once they land and the clock is running. So
British Airway says, wouldn't it be better if we positioned
pilots at O'Hare simply to taxi that aircraft once it's
finished from the international arrival point over to where we

(02:00:56):
need it for the next time. They did the math
and said, this is going to be good for customers,
it's going to be good for the pilots. One hundred
thousand dollars sounds like a lot. Well one year in Chicago,
you live there, you know what.

Speaker 1 (02:01:07):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's not as it is. It
sounds like.

Speaker 3 (02:01:11):
Pilots who actually leave the ground get a lot more
money than that. But you know, for somebody that wants
to be home every day that you know, you know,
just you know what, you know, it's there, so it's
but what a fun headline is though to see that,
or you know, maybe they could use that as kind
of the Siberia joke. You know, you mess up on

(02:01:32):
the line and we're going to put you on the
ground taxing airplanes at Chicago instead of making two hundred
and eighty thousand year. You'll be making a hundred thousand
a year. But yeah, most pilots want to fly, but
for those that want to stay on the ground and taxi,
yeah they can do it.

Speaker 1 (02:01:45):
Well, it's couldn't there be sort of a sub license
for that. You're not taking off, you're not landing, So
maybe we just have like a truck driver's certifications, which
allows you to move in aircraft while it's still on
the ground.

Speaker 13 (02:01:57):
You can't have.

Speaker 3 (02:01:57):
In fact, there's several maintenance people that are qualified to
taxian aircraft, so you could go that route. But again
you're still talking about somebody that gets paid a great
deal of money to work on planes, get them back
in service and things of this nature, versus here you're
paying somebody to patiently taxi at a very very slow
speed that aircraft over to the other side of the airport.

(02:02:20):
So they feel like the pilots are the best way
to go about that, And yeah, it's it's gonna be
interesting to see if this experiment works for him, because Brian,
if it does, they're going to end up using this
same sort of a system at some of their other
international airports around the world. So it's gonna be interesting
to see and I've rarely seen anyone do that. I

(02:02:42):
was going to ask, with your permission, to pivot from
this story to another one that.

Speaker 1 (02:02:46):
We had, the one eighteen thousand flights have been canceled.

Speaker 5 (02:02:50):
Ah.

Speaker 3 (02:02:51):
No, I was going to actually go to a hero
on a flight. There was a Jet two flight. This
is a flight from Turkey to England that was delayed
for more than an hour was airborne. One of the
passengers decided to drink some alcohol she brought on board
the flight, definitely against the rules. She was confronted. She
starts making just a ruck as she starts screaming, the

(02:03:11):
crews preparing for an emergency landing so they can offload
this problem. And that's when a fellow passenger came to
the rescue, actually came over started talking to the woman
in a very calm voice, Brian. She actually calmed down
and the flight was able to continue without an unscheduled stop.
Now needless to save this passenger was the plane's hero.
But he was also eight years old, so wow, what

(02:03:36):
a great story. His name is Phoenix, which I think
is a cool aviation name, and he and his father,
once they finally got home, they started being showered with
gifts from the airline, passengers and people around the world
that have heard the story. No idea says how they
got our address. But my son is continuing to get
gifts from all over the world. But an eight year

(02:03:57):
old came.

Speaker 2 (02:03:58):
To the rescue.

Speaker 1 (02:03:59):
That is amazing. Maybe we need more eight year olds
out of the world to de escalate these crazy people
we deal with day in and day.

Speaker 3 (02:04:05):
Yeah, don't be a Karen, be a Phoenix. I think
that's a very good thought of the day.

Speaker 1 (02:04:10):
Need a T shirt for that with that audience. And
just speaking of Chicago, I saw United Airlines is cutting
a lot of flights. Is eighteen thousand? Is this from Chicago?

Speaker 3 (02:04:19):
Hair only only eighteeny two hundred to be exact, And Brian,
when you see they're cutting that from their schedule in June, July,
and August, that's when you're adding flights, That's when you're
adding service. That's when nobody goes on vacation because the
demand is high, the profit is high, the fares are high.
You want as many of those silver revenue tubes rolling

(02:04:40):
as you can get, and for them to come in
and say we're going to have to because of the
cost of fuel that's increased, and the challenge is associated
with that, We've got to cut eighteen thousand, two hundred flights.
We're seeing airlines around the world do this, and the
last thing they want to do is do this in
the summer. But you have some markets that you operate

(02:05:00):
that the profit is minimal, but it's still a profit.
But when you are starting to pay fifty sixty seventy
percent more in fuel, that minor profit now becomes a loss.
And some airlines are saying, I'm not going to run
this route. I'm going to take that airplane to another
route where our profit are yield for passengers higher and
do that. So they've been moving things all over the place,
trying to adjust on the fly as they can. And yeah,

(02:05:25):
it's not impacting the United Chicago, but Delta's canceling flights.
We're seeing Americans do the same Southwest. Even the low
cost carriers are doing what they can to adjust as
they need to because again, they don't have many of
these in the United States don't have hedge contracts where
you've locked in the price of fuel for an extended
period of time. Now, this practice of hedging is used

(02:05:48):
to be something here that airlines did all the time
until we rolled into the pandemic and then it just
burned too many carriers and they never did it again.
Hedging is fuel Hedging is popular still in Europe. A
lot of the low cost carriers there do it, and
they are really benefiting right now from the idea of
being locked in for some time at a predetermined price

(02:06:09):
of fuel that was no negotiated before all this happened.
And yeah, they're able to weather this storm much much
easier and making money along the way.

Speaker 1 (02:06:18):
Boy cutting eighteen thousand flights on just as several months
one airline that certainly speaks volumes about the volume of
flights in and out of Chicago, though, doesn't it.

Speaker 3 (02:06:27):
May Oh yeah, well, well American in United had I
think eighty percent of the flights between them. But you know,
you're talking about eighteen thousand flights, You're talking three million seats.
So when you're talking about revenue from three million seats,
it adds up. And it's going to impact the United's

(02:06:47):
bottom line for sure. It's going to impact every airline's
bottom line obviously. And I tell you this is not
a summer thing. We're seeing this even if things started resuming,
it's you know, it's going to take a while to
get that flow going where the fuel can start to
drop and cost for aviation needs, and this could be
a you know, summer, fall, even winter thing. So it's
going to be interesting to see where it goes.

Speaker 5 (02:07:08):
Well.

Speaker 1 (02:07:08):
Real briefly, since we're at a time of the segment,
you being the trader guy that you are at daytrade
fund dot com, I know you don't trade in long
term stocks, but has this already impacted the airline stock
prices this.

Speaker 3 (02:07:21):
Yeah, we've seen some overreactions in some things, and obviously
certain people becoming a little bit more concerned. Most people
are looking at it as a temporary problem. So if
you're buying shares of whatever airline you're keep, you're continuing
to do that. You're just doing it at lower prices
in some regards. But look, the bottom line is they're
not most most people in the world, including Wall Street,

(02:07:41):
because yesterday, you know, we hit fifty thousand on the dial.
It was It's not looked at something that's going to
be a forever type problem. And lets things escalate and
as things continue hopefully to calm down in that part
of the world, hopefully the fuel prices will start to
drop a bit as well. I feel for the truck drivers,
those independent owners and operators that I mean, good lord,

(02:08:03):
fifty bucks a gallon? What yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:08:05):
And rising and rising more with the Art mediavs. Next
where Jay ratleffs some interesting story spirit as well as
wait a second, American and merging with United? Can that happen?
Don't go away? The right back fifty five nine fifty
five Kers the talk station, Right Times with Jay Ratleffel
Art media Aviation expert AM I reading this correctly, American
and United might merge?

Speaker 3 (02:08:28):
Well, it was floated out weeks ago by United CEO
Jeff Scott Kirby, and Kirby said that yeah, he wouldn't
it be interesting if United, you and American got together
and merge, And of course that set off kind of
a media firestorm that went everywhere. American quickly came out
and said look, we're not interested, no, thank you, and

(02:08:48):
the it was pretty well a done deal where it
was kind of like, Okay, that's parked, but we've got
the pilots for American airlines that are coming in saying
wait a minute, time out. Not a bad idea that
this could actually works. So I've been speculating for the
last couple of weeks that it's easy for American Airlines
to say no, thank you, But American Airlines is not

(02:09:09):
making but maybe twenty five percent of the profit that
United is.

Speaker 1 (02:09:12):
That answers the question. I literally just looked at the
stock price United is trading at one hundred and American
Airlines is a thirteen dollars stock.

Speaker 3 (02:09:20):
You've got it, and it's there for a reason in
both cases. So you've got shareholders that are like, hey,
I like the United price of stock a lot better
than here. They're doing a lot of things right. They
reported quarters of profit a billion with a B dollars
and more, and American, you know, a couple hundred million

(02:09:41):
if they can make that happen. So the pilots are
saying it may not be a bad idea, and then
you've got shareholders. I guarantee you there's some internal pressure
now that that's been floated out there is hey, this
might not be a bad idea. So the more that
people say there's nothing to see here, dead story, I'm like, yeah, right,
it may come to pass. Now if American and merger

(02:10:06):
American in United went skipping down the road in a
merger attempt. What would the Trump administration do? Now, keep
in mind, this is the same administration that has been
blasting the Biden administration for not allowing Jet Blue and
Spirit to merge. I'm glad that merger didn't go through,

(02:10:27):
by the way, because it wasn't good for consumers. But
the bottom line is, I think of American in United
went forward with this, the Trump administration would allow it.
I don't think it would be a good idea because
it would give them collectively eighty some percent of the
you know, the Chicago o'harea presence would own it, and

(02:10:47):
you would see so few levels of competition, a lot
of different markets for your seats, higher fares. It would
not be good for consumers. But that's not saying it
wouldn't be allowed.

Speaker 1 (02:10:57):
Fair enough on that one. And since you mentioned you're
it some love being shown by the airline folks out
there for the employees lost their jobs at Spirit Airlines.

Speaker 3 (02:11:07):
We're seeing so many stories, so many pictures. There's a
picture on a frontier flight of some Spirit people that
were flying home. I don't know if they were crew
members or employees. And you see the frontier flight attendants
standing around and praying over them, and it was just
such a I mean, and you've got Jet Blue that's
coming out saying, look, if for all the Spirit passengers

(02:11:28):
that are stranded, we're gonna give you a ninety some
dollars fare to get home. So just prove to us,
show us that your copy of the your itinerary on
Spirit will give you these discount of tickets to get
you home. You've got other airlines that are setting up
preferential employment screening if somebody wants to apply for a job.
So you've got all of this stuff that's happening in

(02:11:48):
an industry where it's coming together. And Brian, I tell you,
it really warms my heart to see because you know, yes,
we have thousands of stranded passengers, absolutely, and airlines are
doing what they can do assist those people, in essence
airlift them out of where they're at to get them home.
But you also have seventeen thousand current employees, many of
which who already agreed to take a pay cut to

(02:12:10):
try to help their airlines stick around. And you know
they did everything they could, but you know, the clock
simply ran out. They were just a victim of a
lot of unffortunate circumstances. I think you remember you and
I talking that they had twenty percent of their fleet
Spirit did before the pandemic that was parked. They couldn't
use it because they had Pratt and Whitney engines that

(02:12:30):
had problems, and Pratt and Whitney couldn't figure it out,
so they could not use twenty percent of their fleet.
Pandemic hits. Obviously all the wheels come off of everything. There,
we come out of it, the demand for travels a
little bit sluggish. Everybody gets up and rolling full steams
to an extent, and then we have this fuel situation hit.
So it's been one bad thing after another, which is

(02:12:52):
why Spirit had to file bankruptcy twice in seventeen months.
But you know, as the community, people are coming together
and I'm really glad to see it.

Speaker 1 (02:12:58):
Well, you know, you look at that whole COVID thing
with a twenty twenty perspective, You think, Wow, how much
industry and business was destroyed as a consequence of our
overreaction and Covidly wouldn't we be able to do it
over again? How much different it would be? You really,
you think so Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (02:13:14):
I mean, I want to say, I would love to think, Brian,
if anything, that trip taught me that this group would
do the exact same thing. I mean, people would just
shut down and look for somebody to take care of them.

Speaker 2 (02:13:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:13:26):
I know.

Speaker 1 (02:13:26):
That's the frightening reality of the world these days. Oh
my god, the government's going away? What anyhow, Jay ratl
If you always end on hub delays. What's going on
with air travel out there right now?

Speaker 3 (02:13:35):
Head morning issues Charlotte and Atlanta bad news, good news
that weather's getting out of the way. And yesterday was
a mess. But this isn't yesterday. Today it looks pretty good.
Atlanta and Charlotte could still see some minor delays, dimper
maybe a few. All in all, it should be a
pretty good day to fly today, and hopefully the conditions
will only improve as the day progresses.

Speaker 1 (02:13:55):
Jay Radlf, I will be looking patiently waiting for your
report about how much money you made while we were
talking this morning, Jay Ratliffe, I love only three hundred dollars.

Speaker 3 (02:14:02):
It was a It was a sim slow. I got
to pay attention to us, not you know, not the
other stuff going on there.

Speaker 1 (02:14:08):
Enough, Hey, you made more money. It's twenty five minutes
than most people make working a full day or a week.
Jay Ratliffe, we'll talk next Thursday. Best of health and
love to you and your better half, my friend eight
fifty five right now