55KRC Wednesday Show - Jack Atherton, AFP, CCVS, Napolitano

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A listener to lunch, enjoy, meets some new people and
have some fun, make some friends, some real human connections.
Just a nice thing. And that's why I enjoy listener lunch.
But the extent you know you're there, you want to
say hi to me, listen, I'm the most open available person.
Just walk up, reach out your handshake hands, say hi.
I try to go around the room and say hi
to everybody, and quite often I don't get to do that,
and you know, somebody will be walking out after having

(00:22):
lunch like, oh, I wanted to talk to you. It's like, well,
you got to come over and say hi to me.
So that's all I want to interject on that listener
lunch Anderson Pub and Girls the place to be. So
I hope to see you there. Big Picture with Jack Atherdan,
I dearly love a Wednesday because at seven oh five
we get the brilliance of Jack Atherden weaving history and
modern political topics together and making tremendous sense every Wednesday,

(00:46):
with notable exceptions. Today, I don't know where he's going
to go. This is why we get enjoy the whole all.
We enjoy the fun together and discover what jack'skind has
on his mind together at the same time, clothes make
the man all right. I can't unfold that one. That's
why we have Jack seven oh five for that, follow
by Donald and Neil. It is Wednesday, Donald and Neil
Americans for Prosperity. We're talking about that one small step
campaign and get some information on how you and I

(01:09):
can help out. The AFP makes it so easy to
get involved politically here in the state of Ohioan Lord
knows we need it. I saw we have some interesting
information about the budget, the capital budget. Get to that
in a moment, you know. And honestly, I was looking
a Joe Internet research guru, Joe Stracker. I didn't see
any reference to the Cleveland Browns money if that was

(01:30):
in the capitol budget, the six hundred million dollars which
is supposedly in there. Now there's a whole lot of
money that's going to other projects in the Cleveland area.
Why because well, the Cleveland Browns are moving to Brook
Park and apparently leaving a hole in the attractions that
I guess folks otherwise would have gone to Cleveland to
see the Cleveland Browns. So other money from the taxpayers

(01:52):
going to other projects. In Cleveland, but I guess all
eighty eight communities are going to get some slice of
the taxpayer dollars in the capitol budget. So we'll talk
a little bit about that, perhaps with Donovan and Neil.
See what we got the flag retirement ceremony.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Is Ken Williamson going to join us for that one, Joe.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Claremont County Veterans Services, I'm gonna be talking about the
club the flag retirement ceremony. It's the sixteenth annual Vietnam
Veterans of America Flagg Retirement Ceremony. And I get the
joy and privilege of just sort of facilitating And it's
not a whole lot for Brian Thomas to do the
flag retirement serremony except enjoy the amazing respect that the

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veterans have for the American flag. Steve Ham's out there
and he's been at this for years and years. Steve
knows about etiquette, and you learn about the flag, what
the stars and stripes mean. The Boy Scouts are going
to be there, which is always a great thing. I
like the fact that there are still Boy Scout troops
out there. So we hear from the Vietnam Veterans Association
we'll hear from the couple of speakers see the ceremony

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and the proper way to retire a flag, of course,
separating it and then properly destroying it by burning it.
And the first eighteen people who bring a flag to
the flag retirement ceremony Saturday, June sixth, we'll receive a
free three foot by five foot flag. If your flag
is tattered, if your flag is not you know, up

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to snuff, it needs to be taken down. That's where
Steve Tam came in. Veteran Steve Tam and he he
would drive around and when he would see a tattered
flag somebody's house, somebody's business, just pull over his car,
knock on the door and explain to the homeowner a
business owner that flag needs to be taken down. It's
a sign of respect to only fly a non tattered,

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appropriate looking American flag. I think that's what started this
all off. So the whole event's coming up again Saturday
to get all the details at seven forty on morning
s today plus Judge in a Naponocano a nation of
suspects that is the subject matter of today's conversation with
the judge. So oh one PM is the Star time,

(04:09):
by the way, for the flag retirement ceremony at the
Union Township Civic Center Amphitheater. Again, we'll hear more about
it later on the program. I'd love to hear from you.
Five one, three, seven, nine, fifty five hundred, eight hundred
and eighty to two three talk found by fifty on
AT and T funds real quick here house three point
seven billion dollar capital fund. They are proud that it

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funds well projects in all eighty eight counties here in
the state of Ohio. Arts and Infrastructure is where a
lot of it's going. And uh, I you know, WCPU
is Morgan true who loves to talk about himself and
his reporting on information that we all need. I try
to leave yourself out of it, Morgan. It's not about
you asked the question. Just say when asked, so and

(04:53):
so said, don't say I asked. This is me And
I'm sorry being critical of you, man, but it it's
a distraction anyway. As he reports talking to Representative Jamie
Klender in an interview, I suppose both the Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame and the Museum of Art and

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Cleveland set to receive two million dollars each and I
scratch my head over why is the Rock and Roll
Hall of Fame getting public taxpayer dollars?

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Right? Okay?

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Uh, Cleveland Metro Parks gets three quarter of a million
dollars for already a sailing center. Joe, when was the
last time you took your yacht out of your your
your sailboat out? Christopher crossed for more. You're going well
way way back. Sailing takes me away, Joe. I guess

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if you're you know, a boat enthusiast, you got a
new center or we'll get one.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah, yeah, A good point show.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Thanks to the earworm, I probably will be hearing that
song for the rest of the blank. And and don't
suggest alternative earwarm songs. I'm gonna run around in that
office or in that in that studio production booth years
and and and and meet you to.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
A paulp Not that I would really do that.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
So Calendar, when asked about these projects, I guess Morgan
specifically said, ah, yeah, these projects, all these projects up
in northeast Ohio are are really to replace the hole
that the Browns Stadium would leave now that it's moving
to Brook Park. Response from a representative Calendar, I think
a lot of it is. So wait a second, and

(06:37):
again the mystery surrounding the six hundred million dollars that
they were going to give to the Cleveland Browns. I
assumed that, you know, since it was coming out of
the unclaimed funds pot of slush fund money they got,
that's still gonna happen. So if that's looming the background,
still they give money to the Browns so they can
improve their brook Park facility and whatever they're going to
do with it. And then gee, the whole left in
the Cleveland area because the Browns are gone, requires now

(06:59):
more xpayer dollars so they can put stuff and things
there to try to bring people into the greater Cleveland area. Okay,
question how many people?

Speaker 2 (07:12):
What is?

Speaker 1 (07:13):
What do you think that they do a study on
the return on investment, like how much money will be
generated from a sailing center. I don't even know anybody
that sales. I mean, I know people have boats, but
you know they have motors on them. So too many
questions swirling around on that one. But everybody's got his

(07:34):
hand in the cookie jar. Everyone's promised something, and of
course schools are going to get a lot of this.
We eliminate property that acause I guess these schools will
still get money's because in the capital budget from Ohio.
But apparently six hundred million dollars has been earmarked for
K through twelve classrooms facilitated through the Ohio Facilities Construction Commission.

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This massive funding injection is aimed at direct name directly
at building assistance and modernization for local school districts. So
maybe that is where the money will ultimately come from.
The representatives will have to sit down pen in hand
and break down how much money each and every school
district in various counties are going to get for their
various construction projects. Will we eliminate property tax in the

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state of Ohio. That's still a swirling question as well,
and it is a very complicating thing.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
So all right, priorities, priorities.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
That's why we have elections and maybe people who can
make better the choices when it comes to the prioritization
and the spending of taxpayer dollars. A lot's going on
in the world, including we won't know actually about the
governor's race in California. I suppose and I batcrap in
Sanity Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass has now advanced to
the runoff election. Karen, let it all burn down and

(08:50):
die while I'm on vacation, Bass, Karen incompetent, Bass, idiot
when you hear talk, I'm sorry. I'm just being a
realist and stating the truth. But the voters of LA
have spoken. It's kind of like Cincinnati, isn't it. Joe

(09:16):
five sixteen, Feel free to call five one three, seven
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two three talker with pound five fifty on AT and
T phone. Oh look, more shooting and fighting. But it
is fove twenty one. Hey fifty five KRC talk station. Okay,
second fish stay Mark are yesterday, speaking to UH Congressional

(09:39):
Committee about the whole situation with Iran, suggested the war's over.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
This was yesterday. Hold that thought.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
First public congressional testimony since the launch of Operation Epic Fury.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Quote.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
There is the prospect prospect before us which could happen today,
That will be yesterday. It could happen tomorrow today it didn't.
It can happen next week. Hold your breath. For the
first time, certainly in my memory, they the Iranians have
agreed to negotiate aspects of their nuclear program that just
a month ago, that just a year ago, they were

(10:12):
refusing to even mention. They have to announce very clearly
the straits are now open. They're not charging a toll.
These are again our list of demands. As he's telling
the Iridians what they must do in order to resolve
this conflict, which the Iranians aren't going to do. We
will help remove the minds that they put there and
they will not fire on ships. Ruby arguing that any

(10:38):
future agreement would have to address both Irons and Richmond
infrastructure in the stockpile of highly rich uranium. It would
have to deal with that question, Ruby has said, referring
to the Richmond capabilities, and would have to deal with
the highly enriched uranium that they currently are in possession of.
Does that sound familiar to anybody? How many times have
you heard that over the past. I don't know. Since
Operation Epic Fury began and Rubio's remarks just after Trump

(11:04):
was pushing backed against the Irani media reports that said
that the negotiations were over. Trump referred to that as
fake news. Reports from the Islamic Republic i e. That
the US has stopped speaking, and a few days ago
they're false and erroneous. The conversations between us have been
going on continuously, including four days ago, three days ago,
two days ago, one day ago, and today being yesterday.

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Where they lead one never knows, he said, as I
told Iran it's time, one way or another for you
to make a deal. That you've been doing this for
forty seven years and it cannot be allowed to go
on any longer. Headlines This morning, US Iran trade heavy
fire in Persian Gulf, testing fragiles ceasefire. Apparently we were

(11:48):
added again exchanging fire. We struck an empty oil tanker
that was attempting to breach the blockade. See, we've got
their ports shut down and they can't use them. They
of course have the Strait of Hormus shut down, so
both sides have really the capability of doing that. So
this ship was attempting to deal with Iranian ports in
one way or another, transferring oil.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
We shot it.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
We told them we were going to do that much
in the same way they say, if you try to
get boats of the straight of horror moves, we're going
to blow them up or shoot them, which they have
been doing. Latest episode among the most intense fighting. This
is from this morning. Today's fighting in months came after
as diplomatic efforts have stalled, which flies right in the
face of what Marco Rubio and Donald Trump are saying yesterday,

(12:33):
despite the heavy fire at US Central Commands said yesterday
evening or last night that the tenuous ceasefire was still ongoing. Sorry,
I've got to remark again, if you're shooting at each other,
it just seems to me definitionally that you cannot say
you're in the middle of a ceasefire. We disabled the
empty oil tanker that was attempting to breach the blockade
and load oil at Iran's carg Island. That's the port shutdown.

(12:57):
Iran then launched an attack at Seville. Mariners see this
is them shutting down the Strait of horm moves are
making good on their claim that they keep it shut down,
that we're trying to transit to Persian golf. So here
we've enforcing our blockade, they're forcing their blockade. Apparently, we
shot down three of the drones and conducted what Sencom

(13:17):
called self defense strikes on the Iranian military ground control
stations at Kashem Island. Which is right there at the
mouth of the Straight of horm Moves, giving Tehran control
over ship's movement through the crucial waterway. So one of
the points at which Iran can launch missiles, but not
the only one. And we learned from Daniel Davis yesterday.
I mean, he's at the point where we just need

(13:38):
to pull the plug and put it in an l column.
And if you don't believe your ears that that's his conclusion,
just listen to how he lays that out. Go to
the podcast page fifty five Karsey dot com. And for
everyone who said, you know, he's a terrible guest, I
can't believe he's saying what he's saying early on when
he was predicting exactly what is going on now, In

(13:59):
other words, that the Iranians maintain enough missiles and enough
hardware and enough drones to really effectively keep the Straight
of Horror mouves shut down.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
They are.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Now apparently we've been able to stealthily bring some of
these ships through the Strait of Horror moves wide reporting
on that just the other day, I guess we're able
to do it. The ships go dark and we're able
to scoot them through somehow, but it's not open in
the sense you can get a regular, regular order of
business traffic back and forth. Again, the Iranians maintain a

(14:31):
significant stranglehold on that area. So but definitely check it out.
I hate to, you know, I even asked him. You know,
it's this whole idea. We have the biggest damn military ever,
overwhelmingly bigger than the Iranians. And I asked him out loud,

(14:52):
I said, do the Iranians take inspiration again? When you're
talking about the religious conviction of the Iranians? This is
beyond their perception of relative military might, and whether if
we got into a shooting war, boots on the ground
back and forth, whether they could actually defend themselves against
the United States. That's not what we're at right now.
Of course, we don't have the will to do that
right now, and if we did, we're gonna be there forever.

(15:13):
Thinking then about Afghanistan, the Russians tried it. We tried it,
and effectively, after decades of money, treasure, lives lost, nothing
was ultimately accomplished. I said, Daniel, do the Iranians take
inspiration from the fact that Afghanistan and these crazy Muslim
fanatics were able to fend off attacks from both two

(15:33):
of the world's biggest military powers. Boiled down. Yes they do.
Five twenty seven fifty five Kcity Talk Station, Bobby hang on,
get your call after we get back.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
I want to mention no.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Karma five one three, seven hundred, eight hundred and eighty
two to three talk on five fifty on eight and
T Phondes Tom Holder on a second. Bobby was in
front of you. Bobby, welcome on the program. You're reverend under.
It was under and that's a good thing because a
lot of less people got shot than you anticipated.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Happy Wednesday.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
You we uh, we forgot to mention last Thursday that
these street takeovers they count for three.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Oh okay, yeah, go ahead, retroactively change the rules so
you come up with a better number.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Three. No, I'm kidding.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
We had We had some of our bidding patrons and
they say said, well, what about these takeovers and street takeovers?
He'll they just had one down pay Course Stadium the
other day.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
Oh, I know.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
We made national headlines. We along with Charlotte, North Carolina, Clearwater, Florida,
and Naperville, Illinois. Fox News national reporting. So we're along
in there. With the rest of these the street takeovers
and becoming a growing phenomenon across this country. What is
it all about clicks on social media? These idiots just
wanted to film their antics and put them up on
social media because I don't know, it makes them cool

(16:52):
or something. Anyhow, go ahead, Bobby, what's your point?

Speaker 3 (16:55):
Well, my only point is brother, faith, like family, just
be prepared for what's.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Going on around you.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
I've prayed all I could kill you.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
That's exactly what gota wait till, wait till eight fifteen,
and I'll be doing a spot for twenty two to
three firearms located on Route four between Mason and Lebanon.
To Bobby's point, appreciated Bobby, Tom, Welcome to the morning
show and a happy Wednesday to usar.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
Oh yeah, good morning. And it sounds like if Joe
were to switch the bumper music to yacht rock, you
get a little hostile very you you have an allergic reaction
to yacht rock music.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, but he does.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
That timing on that commercial was really good.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
It was hilarious.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
I'm serious. I thought you'd put it in there, but
he told me. What was that commercial? Identified as in
the data iHeart podcast number one.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
He had no idea what that even meant.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
And yet of course he's got a rundown that he
must play the commercials at the appropriate time. So I guess, right,
maybe a little life comedic miracle happening, good stuff.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
Yeah, you got all these uh, all these idiots or
we're we're here in Ohio. Got all these guys are well,
we live in Ohio, okay, and you got basically Republicans
running that state, and we're out of viewed from idiots
either way. They spend money, throw money around and stuff,
and uh, you know, of course a lot of these
are a little smaller municipalities cities or counties or whatever,

(18:26):
and a lot of those are run by Democrats. But yeah,
what do you what do you do to get people
to start spending money properly? And the only thing we
can do is as common everyday people and voters is
is make noise about it, you know. And I don't
mean do it violently, of course, I'm just talking about
you know, writing people, calling people up, you know, whatever,

(18:47):
something you gotta you gotta gotta make your voice hurt.
Of course, the best way to make your voice hers
at the ballot box. And uh, you know, we're we're
just talking about vote for people who are gonna, you know,
do something sensible with your money. That's your money they're using, Uh,
it's not their money. So that's just a big pot
of money. You know, let's just throw it at this,
Let's just throw it at that. You know, let's gives
one hundred million dollars away to a billion dollar organization,

(19:10):
you know, stuff like that. So, you know, it's it
seems like we all have stuff better to do with
our lives. But they're taking your money and they're they're
spending to do what they want with it. And the
only way they were doing it is because we're letting
them get away with it. So true, First of all,
make some noise, figure out a way to make your
voice heard, and of course, most importantly, don't vote Democrats.
Have a great dub.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Thanks Tom, appreciate the message as always. Five one three seven,
eight hundred and eighty two to three dogs quote Tome
five fifty five forty one here if you have krc
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the podcast page when you can't listen live, for example,
I recommend it earlier. The Daniel Davis Deep Dive get
his breakdown. Maybe it's time for check one in thet
L column. He have to say that out loud, but

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it maybe we are there inside Scoop at Bride Part News,
John Hayward, he didn't have a whole lot of positive
things to say about the status with the Iran US war.
Tom Zaustawski we the People Convention. Also there fifty five
cares dot com, so check it out. Tom was talking
about artificial intelligence and don't believe the lies about it.
There are some terrible things that go along with AI,
like the chat GPT reality and people go nuts thinking

(20:14):
they're actually talking with a real human being and allow
the chat GPT to influence them and getting them to
do terrible things themselves, like committing suicide, which reminds me
it's Male Suicide Prevention Month or its awareness month for
mental health from men.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Get some help.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
If you were struggling suicide hotline, what is that nine
eight h oh National Suicide Hotline. Keep that in the
back of your mind. There is legitimate help out there
for folks who are struggling with that. And my buddy
Eric had posted a meme about the celebrities that we
know that took their own lives. And I was always
a huge and I still am a huge Chris Cornell fan,
and the idea he had two concerts back to back

(20:55):
one I can't remember what night of the week. Let's
just say Friday night he did the concert and he
was going to have another one the following night. I
think the last thing you said to the crowd, if
I recall it correctly, was you know, the people, the
people for tomorrow night's show are going to really wish
they were here.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Tonight.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
And then he went home and took his life. That
is a struggle right there, planning that that foreign advance anyway,
while trying to pivot over to something a little bit
more light harder.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
These stack is stupid.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
A woman facing two felony charges in connection with a
late night road rage incident happened at a Cane's Chicken
Fingers in Homestead, Florida. Thirty said the incident happened Sunday.
It changed the location on Eighth Street involved a crash
into both person and a pickup truck. Homestead police said
a woman was in the restaurant's drive through just before

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one forty five am when Amber Nicole Collier, who's thirty two,
drove recklessly, in the report, through the parking lot. It
went the wrong way through the through the line, almost
hitting the victims car, said. The victim drove to the
stop sign told Collier to drive more carefully, which enraged Collier.
Courted police eventually say the woman quote, you're a rapist

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and a cracker. I'm going to kill you close quote
while trying to hit the victim with her vehicle. Please
send another woman in the passenger see the victim's car
got out, Collier, accord to the report, take a look
at her and then rammed into her. Fortunately, I guess
only bruising her elbow.

Speaker 5 (22:29):
Do what the hell?

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Collier then took off and hit a pickup truck in
the process. Report states that Collier took off and Mi
mid aid Sheriff's office deputy eventually pulled her over about
six miles away from the restaurant. Collier previous arrested in
April sixth after another traffic incident. Records indicate the rest
report that she steed through a school zone just outside

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Miami Gardens. Told the deputy trying to pull her over, quote,
I'm not pulling over clothes quote, although she eventually did.
Thorida said the stop was short lived. After tolling the deputy,
I'm dropping my kids off. She then took off again
and the motorcycle deputy had to try to stop her again. Apparently,
she eventually stopped outside of the school and the deputy
took her into custody. Thorty said during that incident, she

(23:16):
yelled f U.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
N word.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
And said when she gets out of jail, she was
going to kill the officer. In the most recent case,
she's now facing charge of attempt aggravated battery with a
deadly weapon, aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, and leaving
the scene of a crash causing property damage. As of Monday,
she was being held in the Turner Guildford Night Correctional

(23:44):
Center on a seventy five hundred dollars bond, which seems
awfully low, although since she was still being held, apparently
that was outside of her financial means.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
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Speaker 1 (24:06):
One fifty five ker City Talk Station listener Lunch Today
reminder Anderson pub and Grow also a reminder and thank you,
Christopher Smithman and doing what I asked him to do
yesterday to remind me. To remind you, if you're a
resident of the City of Cincinnati, registered voter, get on
over to Jim and Jackson signed the petition to bring
about some reform in connection with the hiring and firing

(24:29):
a police and fire chiefs. The argument from some of
the council members apparently is that it will bring too
much politics into the equation if we take the responsibility
away from where it lays right now, solely in the
hands of the city manager who makes these decisions with
I guess only the input of mayraft have pro ball,
but God knows, we have no idea, leaving everyone to

(24:51):
speculate on why it is someone was hired for the
position or fired from the position, which we all know
former fire chief Washington sitting around with his popcorn out
waiting to get a big fat paycheck because he was
well wrongfully terminated. Huh what predicate? What basis did they
have or did she sherlong have to fire the fire chief?

(25:12):
Apparently none, which is why a judge said he was
wrongfully terminated and that he could go after her individually.
Very rare occurrence that So it isn't more political, it's less.
It brings out into the open the reasons why any
particular individual is hired or fired. That's transparency, is what
that is. So sign the petition. Let's bring that reality.

(25:32):
Seven of the council members must approve or disapprove of
the hiring and firing. I think that's a great development.
Good morning, Christopher. Back to the stack is stupid. We
got local boy here, Cincinnati man accused of breaking into
a victim's home, taking a shower and eating food, and
then stealing a pair of pants.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Why are you doing that?

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Don't know if we'll find out me ten thousand block A,
Leghurst Court Monday. According to the court documents, Travis Deaton
went into the victims home by quote stealth clothes quote
before making use of their shower and hygiene products without permission.
Court to documents, he stole a pair of pants and

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a belt belonging to the victim, and eate prepackaged eight
a pre packaged.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Meal from the home.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Court documents so they showed that all the accusations are
based on a witness statement, video evidence, and the fact
that Deton was found wearing the victim's clothes.

Speaker 6 (26:37):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Husband and wife facing child neglect charges after Broward County
Sheriff's Office, Florida, of Course, said one of the young
daughters tested positive for cocaine. Authorities took Charles Bernard Adams
forty two, and Alexander Shane Adams, thirty four, both a
Pamado Beach, into custody court to the sheriff report, the
parents of two they were parents of two daughters or

(26:58):
are two and fourty years old. Report didn't stay which
of the two girls tested positive for the drug, but
deputies were called to the homes last Thursday after medics
took one of the girls of the hospital when she
was found unresponsive. Corded investigators. Charles Adams told them he
had put the girl to bed for a nap around
noon and the couple took a nap as well. Charles
Adams told deputies he was awoken by the girl and

(27:20):
her shallow breathing, which led him to call nine to
one one. Medics took the girl to the hospital and
test that's where she tested positive for cocaine. Thority said
both Charles and Alexandra Adams tested positive for multiple drugs,
including a fetamines, benzo diazepines and cratom. How do you

(27:43):
sleep with all that crap in your system?

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Joe?

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Do you have any idea anyway? Workers with the Florida
Department of Child and Family Service girl custody parents are
now facing two counts of child neglect Judge Jordan. Both
held on a thirty thousand bond a dollar bond. If
they bond out, they're not to have contact with their
daughters and must be submitted to a drug test as
well as GPS monitoring. Apparently Charles couldn't make bail. As

(28:09):
of the other day, he was still locked up in
the facilities and in badcrap global warming or climate change
insanity and with a wash in excess wine. Apparently nobody's
drinking anymore, according to the officials in Australia, where they

(28:29):
have two hundred and sixty three million liters of glut wine,
meaning it's wine ready to drink, but can't sell it
on the open market. But it was an interesting reality
according to the authorities. They are quoted in the news source.
The amount of wine consumed globally last year dropped to
nineteen sixty one levels when the world population was forty
percent of its current size. So what are they planning

(28:51):
on doing with the extra wine in Australia? Use it
as a source of ethanol so you can burn it
in your gas tank. They say this, two hundred and
sixty three million leaders of wine could produce thirty million
leaders of ethanol. Great, I guess how much money will
it take to turn the wine into ethanol? How much

(29:12):
money did it take to create the wine in the
first instance? Whatever, drink more, we won't have that problem.
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Speaker 1 (29:45):
Are gonna remind folks throughout them this morning. I'm gonna
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(30:06):
job done. Good morning, Christopher Smithman. Morning to everybody listening audience.
I appreciate you tuning in number fifty five carse dot
com so you can check the podcast now when you
can't listen live. I mentioned a couple of times the
discussion I had yesterday with Daniel Davis Deep Dive, and
we did talk about oil because I keep hearing from
the administration we're washing oil, we got all the oil
we need, blah blah blah. And he said, no, no,
we're in that importer of oil. And of course the

(30:28):
event is oil and oil is different from the Sweet
Texas crew, different refining operations. We can refine some we can't.
That's our own problem that we don't build more refineries
or have the ability to create more gasoline and diesel
fuel here in the United States and then be lawsuits,
environmental regulations and like a huge impediment to our own
national security, of course, the ability to have enough gasoline
for our at least our own country. But the problem

(30:50):
is of course one of a global market with oil
straight of horn Moo's still closed. In spite of the
fact that Marco Ribio said yesterday it looks like it's
all over. The war over now SCE to the Congress,
and then we find out in a wake this morning
to the realization that no, we're shooting missiles and bombs
at each other, heavy fire in the Persian Gulf. You know,

(31:10):
we thought we shooted boats that are trying to you know,
get into the Iranian boards, Iranian shoot it ships that
are trying to grow through the Strait of horn Moves.
They're launching missiles at Kuwait and boh Rain this morning.
It ain't over. It ain't over, and really a bleak
outlook from Daniel Davis. Just listen to what he had

(31:31):
to say if you have cares dot.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Com for that.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
We're still waiting and we're probably gonna be waiting for
a while. California Governor's Way, Republican Steve Hilton, and Democrats
Zavi Orbisara. Now we're leading the unofficial early returns this
morning again, all the votes haven't been tabulated. California widely
criticized because it'll probably be next year, maybe about June,
before we figure out the outcome of the election. Given it,
you can pretty much vote anytime you damn well please.

(31:55):
And Hilton was a Trump supported but a Republican. And
remember this is a jungle primary, so the top two
candidates get to go into a runoff in the general election.
So it's nice to see a Republican in the top
two positions, right. Let's hope he maintains that kind of

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lead after the voting is finally tabulated. Now they had
everybody that's a citizen of the state of California, I
think running for governor. You may be called Tom Steyer,
billionaire Hedge fund founder, environmental activists. He's in third place
at least as of this morning. Again, the ballots will
continued to be cap tabulated. But get a load of this.
Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco, Republican Democrat candidate's former Democratic

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Representative Katie Porter, San Jose Mayor Matt Mayhan, former Los
Angeles mayor Antonio Villa Gurosa State Superintendent Public Instruction Tony
Thurman just a few examples cited by Fox News among
the sixty one candidates that.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Were on the ballot.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
So, if Helton actually becomes governor, he'll be the first
one since Schwarzenegger back in two thousand and six when
he got reelected. Can we even hope that that's going
to happen for the state of California? Or is it
too late for the State of California to turn and
to write to the ship, the sinking ship that is California.
And speaking of representation, we've get a lot of screaming
and wailing and gnashing the teeth from individuals, Black individuals, notably,

(33:25):
thinking they've been disenfranchised with this redistricting. And the suggestion
is that you've deprived black voters of the opportunity to
be represented by a black candidate. And I always scratch
my head and think, no, this is all about Democrats.
It has nothing to do with the color of the skin,
in spite of the fact that Democrats believe they have
an earned monopoly on black votes. Scary as that may be,
of course, history demonstrates that it's the Democrat Party that

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was responsible for the KKK, Jim Crow and all the
other evils that many people in the black community struggled under.
But I say, you can be represented by anybody. Barack
Obama got elected to Vice largely in because a lot
of white people voted for Barack Obama. And I look
at this rancho rio a rio rancho pharmacist, Republican into Damka.

(34:12):
They call a d D for short, because people like
me find it difficult to pronounce a name that begins
with nd D d Amaca anyway, d d ak powrek.

Speaker 7 (34:24):
She is.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
There's a photograph for her. A black woman, conservative pharmacist
and business owner won the GOP nomination for New Mexico
Congressional District one. Described as the child of Nigerian immigrants,
the first generation Nigerian American has lived in New Mexico
since the nineteen nineties. She founded something called Olive Tree
Compounding Pharmacy. Focus on her campaign message on look at

(34:47):
this economic growth, opportunity, cutting waste and abuse. That sounds
like solid platform to run on. I'll vote for a
candidate with that solid platform to vote on, as opposed
to someone who thinks there's forty seven genders and wants
to throw all kinds of money at ridiculous, nonsensical welfare
programs and not be interested in referring out fraud, waste,
and abuse, just merely growing the size of government. Hm,

(35:09):
a conservative policy got her the win.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
So white people can actually go out and support and
vote for a black person to represent them. Why not
because of the color of her skin, because of what
she is running on? And isn't that the point That
stuff drives me out.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Of my mind.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Oh and something that may put a smile on your face,
as it has put a smile on mine. Before I
get back to oil. The United Nations, which I have
struggled to figure out what in the hell value the
United Nations actually has. It is now dealing with a
what they are calling a severe financial crisis, its worst

(35:53):
financial crisis in history. UN officials are warning that the
organization could run out of cash by mid August. Why
because China and the United States are withholding billions of
dollars to the United Nations. US Secretary General Antonio Guteraris
warning that the organization, in his words, is in a

(36:14):
race to bankruptcy. So I need the very real prospect
of the financial collapse of our organization. Why because member
states are delaying contributions. Humm, we the United States, oh,
more than four billion dollars in unpaid assessments and peacekeeping contributions.
Someone circled that and put a question mark there. There's

(36:37):
so many conflicts in the world. I don't know what
the UN has by way of involvement or input or
insight or maybe solutions to offer. As have you ever
heard about the UN being involved in the war we've
got going on with the Iranians? Joe, did I miss
reporting on that. I'm sure someone's chimed in on that,
but not actually a huge force in dealing with a
global peace or peace keeping anyway. China, for its part, oh,

(36:59):
was about five hundred million, little bit less than that. Washington, Beijing,
two countries are responsible for forty two percent of the
United Nations funding. Someone wrote wtf after that? How was
it that we became on the hook for I think
it's twenty one or so percent of all of the
UN funding. Trump administration has been withholding this money, pushing

(37:25):
for changes at the United Nation, calling it bloated, inefficient,
and resistant to reform. I think that accurately sums it up.
And when you have nations that actually run around murdering
people because they're homosexuals, or murdering people because they disagree
with the regime, throwing them off buildings, and those folks
end up on the Human Rights Commissions at the United Nations.

(37:45):
You know, you have a real problem on your hands now. We,
of course, were withdrawn from a variety of un affiliated
agencies and programs like the World Health Organization, which came
under fire during COVID nineteen. Do you feel like you've
been lied to on that one? This in a broader
effort to reduce four and spending and redirect taxpayer dollars
toward it domestic priorities. I guess we are keeping ourselves
at the forefront of our own best interest, at least

(38:06):
under the Trump administration. See, you know that's why people
got Congress and Massy right. He was against all funding
for foreign nations. This wasn't him being anti Semitic. And
they have been charges thrown around about some more claims
of anti semitism, but not regarding Congressman Massy. But he's
against foreign aid funding. Why we got problems in our
own country. We can't pay our own bills, Why would

(38:28):
we want to go fund the rest of the World.
Good point, US officials over as far as the UN
are concerned, said future funding got to be tied to
deeper cost cutting measures, workforce reductions, travel restrictions, and greater
reliance on technology to reduce expenses. Good They have done
some pairing. They threw out three thousand secretary positions, closed

(38:50):
some offices, shortened interpreters schedules, and reduced to operating expenses
at the New York headquarters. Also delayed maintenance projects, implemented
energy saving measures throughout UN facilities. This is a consequence
of the austerity measures they've done at the UN because
we're not paying our bill, China joining us in that
that that that refusal to pay. I honestly, I really

(39:13):
don't think i'd weep if you in close those doors,
because I haven't seen any return on our investment. And
you know what, if we didn't have to shoulder the
burden of the vast majority of these expenses there, I
would at least appreciate it being a little bit more fair.
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Sailors out there, Cleveland, Now, welcome back to the Morning show.
Good to hear from you. Gotta go sailing with your
new center when it gets built.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Play low.

Speaker 8 (39:44):
No, I've never been on a sail boat, and I
don't think I have any idea how to run one.
So does that seem like I will I will stay
on shore?

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (39:55):
And does that seem like an everyday common man kind
of allocation of state tax fair dollar resources? You know
how many people have sailboats? If that's assuming it it's
limited to sailboats, why else would you call it a
sailing center?

Speaker 2 (40:07):
But okay, whatever, Yeah.

Speaker 8 (40:10):
Yeah, absolutely, Well, I apologize, but I'm going to be
the petty that guy I'm calling as a grammar nazi.
I was beaten over the head with grammar by my
freshman English professor, and you know, he has basically been

(40:32):
in my head for the last forty five years. And
I heard your spot for the fireplace company, and I said, said, okay,
he just mentioned you need to stop too, and I
think it's supposed to be stop at somebody needs to
talk together.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Now now, now you know that's a live spot. I
am reading copy on the fly, and I admit to
being grammatically incorrect when I'm trying to do is stream
of consciousness push from my friends at Chimneycare fireplace and stuff.
And I also admit to not being perfect, although I
never mind being corrected when I'm wrong. But listen, you know,

(41:14):
go ahead, get a sit here behind the microphone and
try to keep your thoughts organized about the topics you
want to go over on the morning show and segue
into a live spot where you're staring at a page
and a half of copy points and you're trying to
convey information to the listening audience while also maintaining perfect grammar.
Not gonna happen when it's Brian Thomas, somebody else fill
the role.

Speaker 8 (41:36):
Understood, well, again, I apologize for being that guy.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
That's okay, man, I know it's in good faith and comedy. Okay,
enjoy your sailing center out, go on your dinghy Joes,
and no, I don't want Christopher Cross incorporated into the
bumper music. Let that one sit there, Doobie Brothers. Where'd

(42:04):
that come from? Jesus throws his hand up. He just
pull that out of your head, it's the first thing
that came in your mind. Oh, because they're in the
yacht rock commercial. Now, I was thinking of sailing because
it applies obviously directly to a sailing center. And go
ahead and run through the capital budget for the state
of Ohio and see who's getting the money. Lots of
arts projects, you know, And I have to observe.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
With money that flows in.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
It's one thing if money is flowing into something that
we all can use, like the highway systems or roads
and you know, infrastructure and bridges and things like that.
When they start hand selecting items that again, like the
Cleveland brown Stadium or a sailing center, clearly that is
not designed for the masses generally speaking. And when private

(42:50):
institutions and entities start getting the money, that really bothers
me too. But don't sweat at folks. The Farmer Music
Center in Hamilton County, you know, the new one, the
one that's also going to be relying presumably on city
taxpayer dollars that were never asked for. Farmer Music Center
is set to get two point five million dollars. How

(43:14):
many music venues do we have in the greater Cincinnati
area and how many do we need and I know
there were two music venues out at the site where
the Farmer Music Center's going to go. We have P
and C Pavilion in Riverbedd right, God knows we need
a third. Anybody missed the sunlight pool that was available

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Speaker 1 (44:01):
Yes, listener to lunch Lench Wednesday Wednesday, Anderson Public Girls
where I'm going to be seeing Mike submar Submarine or
Mike aka Cribbage Mike who just sent me a text
because he's a security expert at the hard Rock casino.
When you heard me mention or just sort of jokingly
refer to the multitude of music venues we have in
the greater Cincinnati area, including Northern Kentucky of course, the
Brady Center. We've got Riverbam, we got PNC, and now

(44:22):
millions and millions of dollars going over to the Farmer
Music Center. Okay, fine, plus the taft and uh I I.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Could go on.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
And I could have mentioned the concerts they have next
to the hard Rock Casino, but apparently not. When you
heard me talk about the concert venues, he said, hard
Rock Casino for the first time in thirteen years is
having no outdoor concerts and according to Mike, because of
the oversaturations of outdoor concert venues see it apg yues.

(44:53):
I'll see at Anderson pubc grill this morning, Mike, and
thank you for that. One uh five on three seven
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over to local stories. One person dead and another in custody,
this because of a stabbing Tuesday night at Skyline in Norwood.
Norwood Police Department said the stabbing happened inside the Skyline

(45:15):
of Montgomery Road. Multiple people in the area speaking with
Fox nineteen Good Morning so the victim was a woman
who worked at Skyline, but nor Would police have not
provided any information about the victims. Suspect, identified in court
documents as thirty seven year old Rick Wright, charged with
one count of murder. Some video that a local person

(45:38):
took shows a man being taken out of the nearby
bank and handcuffs. Man's faces blurred because police said they
are not certain that he was connected with the issue.
Norwood Skyline was close at least as the reporting not
clear if the restaurant will reopen it yesterday afternoon. I
guess if you drive on over today and find out,
I presume it's back open Skyline, that's exactly where you

(45:59):
think someone might get it stabbed. Go to Lawrenceburg, Indiana,
man fired multiple rounds from an AR fifteen rifle from
his second floor apartment. This happened early Saturday morning, leaving
bullet holes throughout a Lawrenceburg apartment complex and fortunately missing

(46:20):
a sleeping five year old, although the reporting from Ali
Lenard again Fox nineteen said narrowly missing the child, No
one was injured. At nol Park Apartments, which is the
recipient of the bullet holes. Three o'clock in the morning
on Sunday, police said Jared Rezzo fired multiple rounds from
that second floor apartment, ring camera video capturing the gunfire,
neighbors yelling to others to get down. One round went

(46:43):
through the wall of an apartment, stopping just above the
bed of this five year old girl. According to resident
Taylor Richmond, my heart definitely sank. I didn't expect to
see all those my children. That's the only thing that
was going through my mind.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Of course.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Maintenance manager of the complex sleeping in his apartment near
his wife and young children when he was walking by
the gunfire, he said from the window, there's five holes
in the windows, another one through the door. Not sure
if there were any others fired, but right now we
have fifteen or sixteen holes in are sighting from shrapnel
or bullets. Property manager Michelle Auckland showed the bullet holes
to Fox nineteen. So someone getting all shooty Rezo now

(47:28):
in the Deyborn County jail charged with criminal recklessness and intimidation.
Appeared in court Monday morning. Is still in the jail
on a two undred and fifty thousand dollars surety bond
plus a fifty thousand dollars cash Crazy world we live in,
isn't it? And finally this is an interesting one. On

(47:51):
the heels of that story, a House Supreme Court said
a man with a criminal history of domestic violence can
petition a state court to get his gun rights restored.
Six to one majority opinion authored by Justice Pat DeWine.
He was convicted of domestic violence twenty years ago lost
his gun rights under state and federal law. In twenty

(48:11):
twenty three, this man, Patrick Heffley, tried to get his
rights restored through the state courts. Chilcourt denied the restoration,
saying Heffley is blocked by federal law from possessing firearms
because he was convicted of a felony domestic violence charge.
State and federal law puts him in a buying clenty.
He can't get his gun right back until the federal
prohibition is removed, and he can't get the federal prohibition

(48:32):
removed until the state restores his rights. He lost to
the trial court, it was reversed on appeal, and of
course you know that it was ultimately the decision from
the Hio Supreme Court. Ohio Supreme Court said state law
gives the court the discretionary authority to restore this guy's
gun rights if he has led a law abiding life
and appears likely to continue to do so. He was

(48:55):
convicted a fourth degree felony domestic violence in two thousand
and six, served a year in prison for that, and
had two miss or domestic violence convictions in two thousand
and two thousand and four. Under federal law, people lose
the rights when they're convicted of misdemeanor domestic violence or
subject or protection or state law often doesn't even deal
with that. So he's able to try to get it back,

(49:18):
at least according to the House Supreme Court, he can try.
Someone's going to render a decision based upon that effort.
Six thirty six Here ififtyvice.

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At six forty here fifty five ker Ce talk Station
Big Picture with Jack Addaton.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
That takes place after the top of the.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Our News every Wednesday at that time, and that is
something really worth listening to. He's brilliant, puts a lot
of thought and energy into his commentary, always weaving history
in with modern events. And well, it can only presume
that's what he's going to be doing today. But I'm
guessing right now what the subject matter is. Clothes make
the man. We'll find out together after the top of
the UR News. Fast forward a little less than an hour.

(49:57):
At seven thirty, Donald and Neil returns the State tre
for Americans for Prosperity. One small step campaign. Please get
involved in the election. We need to have a huge turnout. We,
of course, conservative minded people or little el libertarian minded
people in my case, need to get out in big
force this November, Lord Almighty, we do not need Amy lockdown.
Acting as the next governor of the state of Ohio.

(50:19):
Flag retirement ceremonies coming up. I will be there Saturday
at a Union I Colts Partner I Colts Road is
the is the is the address. It's the Sorry the
Veterans Vietnam Veterans of America six forty nine flag Retirement
ceremony starting at one pm. Union Township Civic Center Amphitheater

(50:42):
is the venue. I was struggling with. It's on I
Colts Road, but anyway, that's the place to be Saturday.
We're going to hear from the Climate Couty Veterans Services
about that. I've been blessed to be a part of
that wonderful ceremony for the I don't know for how
long it's been. This is the sixteenth annual. Have I
been doing it that long? Maybe find out from them.
At seven point forty judgent of time on at eight
thirty the subject matter Gitmo and torture revisited. Frightening stuff

(51:05):
down there going on at getmo anyway, how do you
feel about this? I know I was really upset when
Joe Biden released oil from the Strategic Petroleum Oil Reserve,
hanging his hat on the Russian invasion of Ukraine back
in twenty twenty two, but really was designed to well
lower the price of gasoline to make his administration look better.
The largest single drawl down in the reserves fifty year

(51:28):
history under Joe Biden one hundred and eighty million barrels. Frightening, though,
go ahead and say you're right, Yeah, damnit. He shouldn't
have done that. Well, apparently Donald Trump's doe at two
and we now are finally coming to realize here as
I see the Newsweek reporting on this, the United States
is draining the Strategic Petroleum Oil Reserve to stabilize the
global energy markets because of the war in Iran. And

(51:51):
then the amount is getting pretty low. Three hundred and
sixty five point one million barrel of barrels of oil
in the SPR that'd be the end of May three
hundred and seventy four point two million, one week prior,
down over fifty million barrels since the conflict began, and
at the lowest level since April of twenty four and

(52:11):
at the current pace, according to gas Buddy analyst Patrick Dehan,
days away from reaching levels that we haven't seen since
August of nineteen eighty three when it was in the
initial fill up stage. Donald Trump also was a critic
of Joe Biden, calling it he saying he recklessly drained

(52:33):
the SPR during the twenty twenty two energy crisis and
pledged during the inauguration to bring America's energy reserves right
to the top, in other words, refill the SPR. And
that's when you do it when the price of oil
is really low, right, Well, it's not. It's called an
emergency response tool. The Department of Energy dubs it. Such

(52:53):
supplies have been in the past used the increased amounts
of available crud on the market and put downward pressure
on prices during what they call significant disruptions and oil
supplies that threaten the US economy. Well, I know Donald
Trump has said we are a washing in oil, and
that's a common I made to Daniel Davis Yester, and
I was talking to him about it, and he kind
of bursts that bubble and interjected a bit of reality.
And this sort of confirms that. So when do we

(53:16):
have releases Operation Desert Storm in nineteen ninety one after
Hurricane Katrina damaged facilities in the Gulf. You know five
the Libyan Civil War and the disruptions were caused by that,
caused by that, and of course the one I just mentioned,
most recently the twenty twenty two Russian invasion of Ukraine
that Joe Biden. Joe Biden used as a predicate and

(53:37):
when he launched his campaign at twenty twenty four, Donald
Trump said the Strategic National Reserves which I filled up,
had been virtually drained in order to keep gasoline prices
lowered just prior to the election. Prior to the Iran war,
the administration said was successfully refilling and repairing the SBR
after Biden's draining a lot of it. Yet in March
of this year, this one flew underneath my radar, Trump

(53:59):
and now that it was re releasing one hundred and
seventy two million barrels from the spr over one hundred
and twenty days as part of the global push to
lower energy prices brought about by the disruptions from the
Gulf or the Straight of Horror Moose situation. Bob McNally,
President of repeating. An energy group consulting firm the SPR
was irresponsibly depleted for many years prior to the horror

(54:22):
moose crisis, and refilling it will also take many years
and require congressional appropriations. One market analyst talking about the
drawdown said, well, it may listed lots of criticism and
prove a political liability for Trump. This has been a
key factor in keeping crude oil prices suppressed well, pivoting

(54:43):
back to the idea that we're washing oil. If we're
a washing oil, why would be we touching the SPR
in the first place. If we're drilling more oil than
we can manage, if we are a net exporter of oil,
which apparently maybe not true, why do we need to
rely on this? And I'm going to go back and
move away from the obvious disruptions in the oil supply

(55:03):
because of the straight of horror moves, closure and the
violence in the war going on between the United States,
Israel and the Iranians. Aren't we supposed to want high
gasoline prices?

Speaker 2 (55:14):
Huh?

Speaker 1 (55:15):
I thought the green global warming climate change alarmists said
we need high gas prices to push people over to
electric vehicles. Huh what happened to that. Why is it
a bad thing?

Speaker 4 (55:26):
Now?

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Why is it a terrible thing for Americans to have
to pay I don't know, four fifty five bucks a
gallon for gas when that's exactly what the protocol, the plans,
and the and the desire of the global warming climate
change folks wanted. This is obviously bringing about a reality
that they were pushing for through regulation, manipulation, tax incentives.

(55:51):
Telling you that your exhalation was killing the planet. Crazy.
So I'm going to be critical of this, and I
think I'm in tied to do that. It's a two
way street when it comes to this kind of argument
in conversations six forty seven. Maybe you disagree with me,
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Speaker 2 (56:14):
Happy Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
A couple of head scratchers over here in front of me.
As we have a few minutes left in this hour
before we get to the big picture with Jack Evan
and I got it lefting at this The Texas Department
of Public Safety will be giving commercial driver's license knowledge
tests only in English. See this is the Department of
Transportation's effort to ensure that people are safe on the road.

(56:40):
We have a lot of perhaps illegal immigrants, but people
who are not fluent in English and can't read road signs,
which obviously creates a hazard on the roads. Is so
Department of Transportations effort under the Trump administration ensure that
all new licensed commercial drivers had the communication skills necessary
to operate the vehicle safely on well Texas road. That's

(57:02):
the announcement from the Texas Department of Public Safety. So yeah,
we're going to follow the Trump administration's lead on this.
We are going to ensure that our drivers can speak English.
Apparently one of the developments just happened banning interpreters, which
suggests me that you could bring an interpreter into the
English language commercial driver's licensed test. What's the point of

(57:24):
the test? Then, well they closed that loophole and another
head scratcher. Oh and yes, Eric, I know Donald Trump
did try to refill the Strategic Petroleum oil Reserve during
his first term, and maybe Congress did try to stop them.
But Donald Trump is the one that's been running around

(57:45):
saying about how we are a washing oil and a
net exporter. If the latter point is true. We are
a net exporter, and noting that we are pulling oil
out of the strategic petroleum oil reserves, are we exporting
strategic petroleum.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
Oil reserve oil?

Speaker 1 (58:01):
I thought that was therefore national emergency or you know, conflict. Anyhow,
moving over to the head scratcher. I don't know if
you're familiar with James Talerico. He is a Democratic Senate
candidate from Texas, and he is previously on record for believing,
or at least saying out loud, he believed that there
were six genders, six biological sexes. I've heard some people

(58:24):
say more than that, and you know it's comical if
you read it on the internet, it's true. Anyway, he
was asked the other day if he still believed that
there are six biological sexes. He has now backed off
since he has won the nominee to be the Democratic
Senate candidate in Texas.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Quote.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
I know there are two sexes, men and women. I
also know there's a very small percentage of people who
have these chromosomal abnormalities, and I believe they deserve to
be treated with dignity and respect. Well, I think all
people to get deserve to be treated with dignity in respect,
I don't believe that someone can tell me that there
are more than two sexes.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
Apparently he's now on board.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
Why because he's running for Senate in Texas, and I'm
certain that the vast majority of Texans also believe that
there are only two sexes.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
Now.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
In so far as chromosomal abnormalities are, I don't think
the LGBT movement is all about at least the T
movement is about people with legitimate chromosomal abnormalities like the
xx y Y or the double x Y or however
that works. No scientists am I, But I do know
there are things like hermaphrodites, people have mixed genitalia, that

(59:34):
kind of thing that's a legitimate biological problem if I
can summarize it or stated as a problem. Abnormality most definitely,
but is an infinitesimal fraction. And the people running around
telling you that you can say what sex you are
are not talking about folks the chromosomal abnormalities. They're trying
to tell you that you need to take them at

(59:55):
their word and believe that a man can actually be
a biological woman, because they say seven of six here
I figure out canosy do you talk station being a
Wednesday which is also a listener Lunch Wednesday and Midicine
Pub and girl hope to see you there. It is
that time of week when we are blessed with the
brilliance of Jack Atherden with the big pictures. What we'd

(01:00:17):
like to call this segment Welcome back Jack Avid and
it's just always a thrill to heavy on my show.

Speaker 9 (01:00:22):
Thanks so much, friend. Most of the guys listening are
not the biggest fans of chick flicks, but inspired by
one of the most stylish and fun movies Amesley and
I have seen in a long time, The Devil Wears
Prada too. Let's talk Brian about fashion and society. I

(01:00:43):
don't mean high society, and forgive the bad pun, we're
gonna skirt the question of women's fashion. I haven't managed
to stay married forty three years by critiquing women's fashion,
although as you know, both our wives always look marvelous.
My outfit of choice and retirement is a T shirt

(01:01:03):
and jim shorts, not because I'm a bodybuilder, as you know,
just following the trend of guys today looking casual.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Do you have a lot you have tube socks and
are you wearing tubes of always looked kids?

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Hey, Jack can't wear me?

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
Oh I just had to interject and inquire whether that
T shirt and short comba was also including tube socks
and sandals at the same time.

Speaker 9 (01:01:27):
No no, I managed to get in a pair of stinkers,
old fashioned sneakers. You know me?

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
Okay, now, kids, Kids have.

Speaker 9 (01:01:37):
Always looked like kids, whether they were ductailed greasers in
the nineteen fifties or hippies who grew their hair longer
than rapunzels, right down to the grunge kids of today
who make homeless guys look like beau Brummel. Does anybody
remember bau Brummel. He invented what came to be proper

(01:01:57):
clothing for husbands, father office workers, what used to be
called grown ups. He also invented democracy when it came
to modern clothing. Because fashion history Brian reflects political history.
You knew we'd get there. When society was run by aristocrats,

(01:02:18):
the nobility unfurled its feathers like peacocks. In Shakespeare's time,
courtiers sported bejeweled doublets. They displayed their legs in silk hothes.
Louis the fourteenth of France went a mincing step further,
decreeing that only noblemen were permitted to wear get this
ruby red high heels, and King Louis wore wigs that

(01:02:42):
made shares look like a buzz cut. Through the first
decades of American independence, dandies in France and Britain replaced
bathing with perfume and makeup. Aau Brummel changed all that
he didn't have the money for jewels and embroidered gold vests,
So the Beau convinces society, including the Prince of Wales,

(01:03:05):
that ornate clothes are vulgar. Instead, this new arbiter of
fashion insisted that a gentleman be clean and simply elegant,
never join attention to himself. The bou invented modern suits.
Think of the way mister Darcy dresses in pride and prejudice.
Contrast our founding fathers, who were tough guys, but still

(01:03:27):
they had powdered wigs, and they wore silken doublets and
things like that. And think of President Lincoln just a
few decades later, with his simple black suit and stove
pipe hat. Speaking of presidents, how about Ronald Reagan, who
like President Trump never entered the Oval Office without a
suit and tie out of respect for the office. Counterculture

(01:03:51):
Marxists protested all of that, and not just presidents. They
mocked anyone who dressed like a capitalist tool inspired by
beau Brummel. Hippies really were rebelling against their buttoned down fathers.
They were attacking the greatest generation that won World War II.
We built the free world and spoiled their kids. We're

(01:04:14):
still living with that, with socialists down for the struggle.
Forget is that the beau Brummel business suit gave every
man a chance to improve his lot in life. It
let the growing middle class dress like the upper class.
Of course, the rich could order suits from Italy Savile Row.

(01:04:34):
Carrie Grant had the suits he wore in movies tailored
for him in London. A Hollywood film crew Brian, as
a practical joke, ordered an identical suit as the one
he got from Savile Row, and they gave it to
a monkey. Carrie Grant was not amused. But even if
you couldn't afford a London tailor, dressing in a suit

(01:04:54):
in time meant you were a proud member of America's
fluid up mobile, free market economy, a breadwinner, a man
with a family and civic responsibilities. Now, don't get me wrong, friends,
somebody gave me Fred Hauser. Thank you for this an
autographed photo of Elon Musk, who is no less a

(01:05:18):
visionary entrepreneur because he prefers T shirts and sneakers. But
many other guys today who post COVID work from home,
if they work at all. The number of people not
looking for work is another thing we can talk about.
Sometime they dress like arrested adolescents, and too often they
vote like arrested adolescents. They're taught by leftist media and

(01:05:42):
social media that America is and always has been unjust.
They dress like pro hamas protesters at Columbia and Harvard.
Americans used to say, clothes make demand, and back when
we had men who dressed for the next job they wanted,
they did so once in a while for a business meeting.

(01:06:04):
We're just for a date night with your wife, why
not dress in your Sunday best now, Brian, I can
hear my wife saying, stop talking and get your good
suit back from the dry cleaners. But one last thing,
and I know you will agree with me. My friend
there's no more honorable suit of clothes than a military
or police uniform or the ordinary work clothes worn on

(01:06:28):
the job by the men and women who make our
country run. So what do you say?

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
I agree with you absolutely in that last point. I
guess the interesting question is, isn't it sort of a
societal creation what constitutes appropriate dress at any given moment
in history? How is it that red high heeled shoes
were once the approved sophisticated You know, who in the
hell came up with that rule that was widely accepted?

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
I mean, come on, who whose idea was that?

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
And how did it become the norm to have that
respectability meant wearing a suit? Not any problem with the concept,
but you know, if if I'm wearing a suit and
tied to a Reds game when it's ninety degrees out,
I think that's a stupid choice. But that's what people did.
Part of the reason why is because you could only
afford one suit, and many people wore that suit day

(01:07:17):
in and day out. And I'm sure it got kind
of gaming back in the nineteen twenties when you had
your same suit over and over again, probably made of wool,
But that was the society accepted and expected clothing wear.
I'm sure a lot of guys would rather have been
in T shirts and shorts or whatever the modern version
of it was back then. I know I would. I
remember casual Fridays. I wore a suit every single day
of the week, suit and time when I was practicing

(01:07:38):
law in Chicago, along came casual Fridays. To the delight
of all the you know, sophisticated, well healed lawyers who
were representing multi millionaire clients. We couldn't wait for Fridays.
And then it became the well you can dress casually business.
Casual was always a business in front of it, So
you couldn't wear you know, tube tops or whatever, but
casual unless you were going to court. Court, there was

(01:08:00):
an expectation you show up in a suit. I know
that's gone by the wayside, and I know that seems
disrespectful to the court and quite often perceive to be
so when people show up in shorts and T shirts.
But not everybody can afford a suit and the laundry
bill that goes along with it. And I think that's
the reason we kind of gravitated over toward this more
relaxed approach to business where people who can't afford the
laundry bill and the suits and the shirts that go

(01:08:21):
along with it. I remember having shirts starched and dry
clean a buck fifty a pop back in the nineties,
and that was rather expensive, but it was something that
we all took care of and paid for. My wife
had to wear suits to work every single day. So
there seems to be a real weird balance here. But
it's whatever society perceives to be appropriate is what is acceptable.

(01:08:42):
And I think we have gone a little bit more
way over over the line when it comes to wearing
yoga pants literally everywhere. I roll my eyes at that,
but you know, I'm not the one making society's rules.
Jack your retort to those observations, I have no retort.

Speaker 9 (01:08:58):
It's a free country, a nudist colony, if you like.
I'm just certain the way that we dress is a
reflection of the kind of society we have. And of
course I'm not suggesting that big government ought to mandate
the way people do. That's the leftis. After the Communist Revolution,
Malse Tung ordered men to wear his signature mausuit if

(01:09:20):
they weren't in a military uniform. That order was relaxed
only after Joan Lai and Dungshaoping opened China up to
some measure of capitalism, and American multinationals move their factories
and jobs to China, which Trump is trying to reverse. Today,
Jijiungping is less interested in building up a red Chinese
middle class. So who knows. Maybe those common uniforms are

(01:09:43):
going to come back. But yes, people can do what
they like, they can speak the way they like. We've
got a segment on profanity coming up soon. Of course,
we've talked about music and the quality of movies today.
Free society, but not necessarily the society that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
Works best for us, right, and I listen dictates from government,
of course I'm going to reject, and most notably if
it comes to something as individual as clothing choices. But again,
what is accepted broadly by any given society really is
ultimately what dictates what is appropriate and inappropriate. And I
look over the globe and see different societies with different
garb and wear, and I scratch my head over their choices.

(01:10:21):
But then again, I don't live in their particular culture.
I'm not advocating running around looking like a slob jack.
It's just that you know, over time, things dramatically change,
and I sure as hell don't want to go back
to a time when society has an expectation that we
all wear wigs and high heeled shoes, because if we
go in that direction, then I'm going to be the
one people are looking at, going that guy doesn't know
how to dress it appropriately, and I'll be going, Yep,

(01:10:43):
I guess I'm the modern day of a modern day
hippie because I'm walking around in my old business casual attire,
which at one point in time used to be societally acceptable.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:10:52):
Well, the whole point of my talk was that the
way we dressed used to reflect the fact that you
had to be an aristocrat to be respect When we
got to the point where men dressed in what was
considered a respectable fashion and one that allowed them to
move up the social ladder, America was doing quite well.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
And then you can always think of Fetterman, who I
don't think did the senator service by walking around in
sweatpants and T shirts. So there's always that kind of guy. Oh,
and I got to make a quick comment on hats, Jack.
His hats always drive me crazy. If it's a functional hat. Fine,
it keeps the rain off you, it keeps the sun
from beaten down. But stupid hats have always been a
problem for me, you know, like the bobbies that stand

(01:11:31):
outside and guard the London with those giant fur hats.
I mean, what point do those things serve other than
some sort of connection with history? And when did it
become a functional hat? When did that type of hat?
Why was it designated for the military wear under that
circumstance when I think some other form of hat would
be far more functional and a lot more comfortable and

(01:11:53):
of course less expensive.

Speaker 9 (01:11:55):
Britain is making a lot of money off tourists and
then a lot of tourists take pictures of themselves now
to those guys. Yeah, speaking of hats, you know, it's
interesting how fashion does change. Clark Gable is the one
who got a lot of men stopping wearing undershirts rights
and the movie had happened one night. Yeah you took
off your shirt and he was just Clark Gable JFK

(01:12:18):
at his inauguration didn't want to wear a hat. And
the hat business really went downhill after that because people said,
look at that guy with his full head of hair.
I don't need a hat.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
So what we need is modern social media influencers who
will bring brack a, bring back a higher expectation of
clothing wear so we all do look at least a
little more respectable, not like we're off to a gym.
Jack evident, always fun, always brilliant. Appreciate our banter back
and forth. And I appreciate you and you're being on
the program as always. I wish you and you better

(01:12:49):
have Amsley a wonderful week. Much health and love to
both of you. And we'll do this again, Actually not
next Wednesday. I'm off from my cancer recovery week, but
we'll do it again in two weeks. Yeah, and take
care of your hey, Thanks, I appreciate that very much,
Love you brother. Have a great week, seven nineteen if
you Kashan, Happy Wednesday, listener lunch Anderson Pub and Grill.

(01:13:10):
Someday maybe we'll see Donovan Meil from Americans for Prosperity
and a listener lunch. I don't know that it's going
to be today, and I'm not putting them on the spot,
but welcome back Donovan Meil from Americans for Prosperity talking
about the Ohio Small One Small Step campaign. Could you
have you back on the show as always, Welcome back, Brian.

Speaker 7 (01:13:26):
Glad to be back, and I'd love to do one
of those listener lunches.

Speaker 3 (01:13:29):
That would be awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
First Wednesday I absent a holiday interruption or sickness or illness,
but you can always count on the first Wednesday of
the month for the listener lunch. We go all over
town and the whole point of it was to support,
you know, local restaurants, mom and pop restaurants, but also
just to get people out of whatever the rut they're in,
because that's what I used to be in when I
was working at Anthem, you know in cube Land, and
every six weeks or so, we just like, let's just

(01:13:52):
go out of the building and have lunch sometime and
get the crew out and we'd always enjoy it was
really lighthearted. We'd all, you know, joke around. You weren't
in a business environm so you could be a little
looser with your language, and you know, it was just fun.
It's like, we need to do that, so everybody's invited.
It's not about me, It's about getting out of your
rut and supporting a local restaurant that probably can't afford
advertising dollars, but maybe going to a place you've never

(01:14:14):
been to. And you know what, man, I've been I've
been on radio twenty years in December, and we've been
doing listener lunches here in the morning show for nineteen
of those years. I have just been blessed with making
so many friends, but also seeing friendships made. I walk
into the room and there are tables filled with the
same groups of people that they didn't know each other
before listener Lunch came along, and now they're just like

(01:14:35):
great friends. They make a point of meeting each other,
and everyone has smiles on their faces. It just is
really it's one of the highlights of my day and
month and year because it gives me a boost of
I don't know, not confidence or anything, but it makes
me feel better about life. So I can walk into
one of those things feeling really blue and down about
the state of affairs in the world. I come out
feeling energized just because of the fellowship that goes on. So, yeah,

(01:14:56):
you're always everybody's welcome at a listener lunch.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
Donovan, Oh, that's awesome. I love it. Thanks, Thanks great.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
That's the point of the concept has nothing to do
with me. I can't imagine anybody driving anywhere to see me.
But boyd you have a great meal and great fellowship.
That's what it's about. So maybe someday, Donovan. But you
didn't call to talk about lunch. You called talk about
the once a Small Step campaign we talked about this
last week. Got any updates from my listening audience?

Speaker 7 (01:15:21):
Yeah, this is you know, this is sort of what
our team's focused on right now, because what's more important
We're going It all boils down to it, other than
listener lunch. What's more important than celebrating our nation's two
hundred and fiftieth birthday. And as I mentioned last week
to you and your listeners, our national tourists coming to
Ohio June twenty second. We've actually locked in a few speakers.

(01:15:43):
I was I wanted to debut them actually announcing them
on your show. Here was on the final list. But
the initial slate of folks includes moms on a mom
on a mission, some Hispanic leaders here in the state
of Ohio, a veteran, and a veteran who has sacrificed lot.
It's going to be a big event, Brian, and we're
just really excited to have folks be able to come

(01:16:04):
out and join us.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
You're gonna have any musical acts, Donovan. Of course, my
tongue is in my cheek thinking about the whole Donald
Trump effort to get musical acts together, and nobody's sort
of pulling the plug on it. Although the musical acts
that the plug was pulled on, I didn't realize those
folks were still alive or even still artists.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
But whatever, we so we.

Speaker 7 (01:16:24):
Ese have been different in every state. Actually, in all seriousness, well,
what we found is people are really there to celebrate America.
In fact, you know, one of the things we found
is some of the programming actually sort of slows down
the overall vibe of the the the the experience, and
so you know, there'll be some tunes of course playing there,

(01:16:45):
and I think the speakers we've got are going to
do a great job of inspiring folks. But what we found,
you know, I think this will be the seventh event
when it comes to Ohio. They've done so far this year.
It's actually really just been about people showing up in
patriotic garb, celebrating America, signing the declaration of independence that
we have on display there. We have a booth set

(01:17:07):
up where people talk about what it is that they
love about America. You believe that Brian people actually going
on camera testifying about what it is that they love
about this great nation. And it just you get that
and you get that energy, and you know, you refill
that cup that is you know, patriotism, and you leave
there we're renewed with it, like a renewed commitment to

(01:17:28):
go out and help, you know, either achieve your own
American dream or help make it possible for others to
achieve that. It's it's powerful stuff and I'm honored that
our state's one of twelve that gets to have this happen.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
It just just breaks my heart so much. Donin and
I know see people just disparaging America and never ever
focusing on all of the wonderful accomplishments that this the
most wildly successful nation the planet has ever seen, has
been able to bring to the world. Instead, we focus
on the warts and the scabs, and and and the
the ills and evils that, yes, we the United States

(01:18:02):
of America, have engaged in. But I'd like to think
we've evolved a lot and that we are a better
nation each and every day, and you can point to
all of those improvements in our nation from its founding
two hundred and fifty years ago to today. We're not
the same place, but it was the founding principles that
allowed us to achieve this level of greatness and evolve
and become better. You know, people don't want to focus

(01:18:24):
on the fact that we have corrected so many of
the ills of the past. They just cling to them.
And what is the nefarious reason for that? I mean,
why do we want to dwell on something that happened
so long ago when we have so much success and
improvement that we can point to and say, see, we're
better than we can point to a million countries around
the world overstatement, I know, and talk about how they've
never improved their situation and things are still miserable for

(01:18:45):
their own populations. It's heartbreaking to me.

Speaker 7 (01:18:47):
Donovant, Well, you can't make everybody happy, I liken it
to you know, I don't want to get confusings here
with faith, and not all your listeners I know are
probably people of faith, but to me, it's a faith element,
right you. You know, if you're like me, I've had
experiences where I get closer to my faith and further
from my faith right. But I think when you for me,

(01:19:10):
at least going to church, recommitting to my faith and
reconnecting to some of those core tenants, you know, have
an impact on me in a positive way and moves
me closer to where I think, not only do my
does my mom want me to be, but probably where
I know as a person that I need to be right,
same thing with our same thing with our country right,
and that you can fall away from it. You can

(01:19:31):
you feel this distance or you see something or hear
something in the news, or God forbid to read something
on social media and says I, I grasses greener on the.

Speaker 8 (01:19:39):
Other side, I just don't.

Speaker 7 (01:19:41):
You know, maybe I'm not as proud as I think
I am of the nation that I'm blessed to be
born in. But you know, when you come to again
a plug in this event, you come to an event
like this, or you know, you get involved, like we
see volunteers and activists do every day at AFP. They
come out of that experience knocking doors, going to a rally,
attending and event like this with that sort of renewed

(01:20:02):
spirit for civic duty, for being involved and so I
would challenge folks to use this opportunity because they're feeling
that way weeks out from our nation's birthday, to make
that commitment drive an hour and a half north of that.
In fact, we have a bus that we're putting together
for southwest Ohio to even bring you up if you
can't drive up, but gives you an event, can give
you that opportunity to feel that we're an in spirit

(01:20:24):
for our nation and we'd love to be that, you know,
be able to have many of your listeners join us
up there June twenty second.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
It's that shot of patriotism you get when you go
to the honor fly tri State return Home celebration. That's
one of those kind of things, renewed sense of patriotism,
and Lord knows we could all use it, and it's
something we should regularly try to find in our lives
because we do have the best country in the world
has ever seen. Well, you talked about the what, which
is the two hundre and fiftieth? What about the where
and the when? Don it Than and Neil?

Speaker 7 (01:20:51):
Yeah, it's going to be in Columbus at Scott's Miracle
Grow Turf Field. That's the Columbus Crew Soccer Stadium in Columbus, Ohio,
five o'clock Monday June twenty second, five pm Monday June
twenty second. We'll have it an event up there. We
do have buses coming in. In fact, George Brunneman for
more Store Liberty started promoting some of that.

Speaker 4 (01:21:11):
So if you need, your listeners know.

Speaker 7 (01:21:13):
George, reach out to George Brunnman, reach out to your
friends at Restore Liberty. Let them know you want to
get on the bus to the AFP of America to
fifty event. We're putting it together. We'll have about fifty
five seats available for that for that group out of
southwest Ohio, so we can make it easy for you
to get there.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
Even fantastic and I appreciate you doing that, and shout
out to George. He's an outstanding guy. And let us
remind my listening audience, Donovan, how important it is to
rally the troops to get into the polls in November.

Speaker 7 (01:21:43):
Oh without a staff. I mean that is so you know,
you renew that spirit for America and then do your
American duty, get out and vote better. Yet, we know
your listeners are going to vote. Brian they need to
get involved in the campaign alongside AFP Action inside our
team to make sure to remind people, their friends and
neighbors in the community to go vote. It's this country's

(01:22:04):
too important to let it slip through and not put
an hour of your own time into your civic duty.

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
Here Lord knows it's worth getting off your bottom and
get into the polls just to keep Amy Acting from
being run next governor, because I don't want to go
through another lockdown. Donovan and the Americans for Prosperity, mister
patriot himself get a renewed sense of patriotism June twenty second.
Get the details at AFP Action, correct.

Speaker 7 (01:22:24):
Donovan, actually a too fifty Ohio like America to fifty
Ohio atoo fifty Ohio dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
A two fifty Ohio dot com. But e the talk station.

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
Seven if you're about KCD talk station or the Happy
Wednesday to you in studio, the return of Clima County
Veteran Service Commission Steve Belzo, who's got to be talking
about Flag Day? Steve Bells. It's always great having you
in the studio. And I see that I guess Ken
Williamson handed off the flag retirement ceremony announcement to you,
and that's a okay. It's at Union Township Civic Amphitheater

(01:23:03):
on this Saturday, June sixth, one pm along with the
Boy Scout Scot Troop four fifty two. I've been doing
this for years. They've always invited me over. It is
such a I wish it was more well attended, and
that's one of the reasons you're here to talk about it.
But it's just such a neat ceremony. You learn about
the having respect for the flag, and it was a

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Steve tam is just a beautiful guy. I mean, he's
gonna kick this thing off.

Speaker 2 (01:23:27):
He would drive.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
Around and if he saw a tattered flag one should
have been retired in a home or a business, he
pulled right on over and just knocking the door and say, hey, hey,
it's time to get that flag down. You know, if
you don't have one, I'll give you one.

Speaker 10 (01:23:41):
I have commissioners that carry them in their vehicles and
they'll stop and just change them out. I think that's right,
that's great exactly. But it's part of the patriotic bone.

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
It is, you know, the symbol of our country. It is,
you know, and I always feel so proud of what
it represents. And to me, I always boil it down. Freedom.
I mean, it's one thing I truly believe in his freedom.
You have your own version of what you perceive freedom
to be. You can be your own person. In the
United States of America, you worship whatever religion you want.
You can speak your mind with our free speech freedom.

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There's no other country in the world.

Speaker 10 (01:24:15):
Well, I'll tell you, being around this world many times,
there are few symbols that are globally recognized, and our
American flag is one of them.

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
Amen.

Speaker 1 (01:24:28):
And so many people trying to tear it down and
turn it into something that it's not a symbol of,
you know, anger, division, you know, evil and.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
Stopping on it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
And you know, I don't want a loss thing. You
can't burn it up because that's part of freedom and speech.
But you know what, I have such a profound level
of respect. It always breaks my heart to see that
people would do that.

Speaker 6 (01:24:47):
Yeah, man, desecrating the flag.

Speaker 10 (01:24:50):
You're yeah, there wasn't a band aid you pulled off.
I hapen to have an arm removed there where the
bad aid says. But nonetheless, it's one of those the
p event to retire and dispose of a flag. It
is discreet, It is not a celebration. No, it is
meant to be honored the way we would a loved one.

Speaker 6 (01:25:13):
In a cemetery.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
Exactly. That's what it's all about.

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
Yes, sir, there is a way to properly dispose of
a flag when it's end of its useful life. You're
supposed to celebrate it and honor it by placing it
in you know, And we'll walk through all of the
steps on Saturday and how that's properly done. But it
is an event much like a funeral.

Speaker 10 (01:25:32):
Because we live in this What it represents the democracy
of this nation. However, you you look at our democracy,
we are still the most democratic, fair based country on
the face of this earth.

Speaker 1 (01:25:50):
A man or with Steve Belzow, we'll talk about the
flag retirement ceremony. After the brief words of USA insulation
and taking the name in a patriotic way USA Premium
Foam in the xtree Walls vire seven forty eight te
forty nine actually fifty five KCD talk station Flag Retirement
Ceremony this Saturday, one pm be at the Union Township
Civic Center Amphitheater. First eighteen people who show up and

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bring a flag that needs to be retired are going
to receive a brand new and four free three foot
by five foot flag at the end of the ceremony
because you need to take down your old tatter flag.
They call them unserviceable and they need to be retired.
Steve Belzo, Clement County Veteran Services. Before we get to
the reason for Flag Day and what it is unserviceable,
what does it mean to be unserviceable? I mean there's

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degrees of flag age out.

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
There in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
When at what point would Steve Tams start knocking on
your door and telling you to get the thing down
and properly, properly retire it.

Speaker 10 (01:26:42):
Yeah, absolutely, there is a I don't want to say
a militaristic, draconian look at the flag, but yet there
is right so unserviceable. Does the flag without rip or
tear look exceedingly weathered? Are the are the colors faded?
It's time to replace the flag. Aside from that, as

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soon as the flag starts to tearing right and you've
got these frayed ends flying off, or how many have
we seen driving down a road that there's like thirteen
streamers because the flags coming apart, it's like, bring the
thing down. And that's when it's unserviceable, is when it
does not look new anymore. Basically, right, it's starting to

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tear their weather rised. Right, they're made out of a
nylon now that they're supposed to take the higher winds
and the rain. But after about two years, the sun
degrades anything that it had for some sort of construction
that it just starts to come apart.

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
Yeah, or sooner.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
In the case, we fly our flag every single day
at the Thomas Household in the sun and you know,
sometimes the rain. I know you're supposed to be taking
them down at appropriate times and not fly them at
night unless they're illuminated too.

Speaker 6 (01:27:50):
Oh, thank you very much, Chitching, Brian, got it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:53):
I know the rules.

Speaker 1 (01:27:54):
Yeah, why because I've been doing the flag retirement ceremony
for a lot of years.

Speaker 10 (01:27:59):
I've got boy scouts my head.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
I got it down.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
At least go back to what is flag Day and
what is the history behind flag days?

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
Deep?

Speaker 10 (01:28:05):
Oh, my gosh, flag Day It is from seventeen seventy seven.
I mean, if you can think about seventeen seventy seven
and the recognition of our American flag extends all the
way back to then of just the liberty. If you
can put yourself in the revolutionary soldiers and community members

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of this new nation and what that flag represented to them.
Oh yeah, right, yeah, today we're taking it for granted.
But let's go back to the beginning and what did
it mean to those beginning settlers to have their first
flag approved by the Second Continental Congress, the thirteen red

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and white stripes, the blue field, and the thirteen circling stars.

Speaker 1 (01:28:53):
And still within memory of the Revolutionary War which brought
about the creation of the flag.

Speaker 10 (01:28:59):
In seventeen seventy seven, the war still going on. Well,
valid point on that right, seventy six we wrote the independence, Well,
what didn't mean we were independent? We were still fighting
for it until seventy eight.

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
Valid point.

Speaker 10 (01:29:09):
So there's to raise old glory then young glory in
seventeen seventy seven. That was a a rallying cry. Right,
when you bring a country together behind a single symbol
like that, it's huge.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
Well, going back, and you said, I hit the nail
on the head about taking the flag down at night
unless it's illuminated. But are there other rules for flying
a flag outside.

Speaker 10 (01:29:34):
There is so when when the United States flag should
never touch the ground, right that I know? So when
you see people bringing a flag down, it is meant
to be caught at the bottom and not be draped
on the ground until you can unhook it from the
morning points. Secondly, some people pull it down and then
they there's a proper folding technique to retire it for

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the evening. So flying it outside, it's should never be
so large that it's hitting the ground. It should be
illuminated from sunset till sunrise, or take it down at night.
There's so many automatic battery charged lights that are out
there now.

Speaker 6 (01:30:15):
That are solar powered.

Speaker 10 (01:30:16):
It's it's so easy to just have a spotlight on
the flag if it's inconvenient at sunrise or sundown. Even
the branches don't agree when we raise colors or retire
them in the evening. The Marine Corps in the Army
do it at different times, Is that right?

Speaker 6 (01:30:32):
It is?

Speaker 10 (01:30:32):
Yeah, So the Marine Corps does it at zero seven,
but we take it down at sunset. I think the
Army does it at sunrise and takes it down at
like seventeen hundred. Right, So you guys fight right. Well, absolutely,
it's no different than you and your brothers. Right, No,
Mom had two left feet. No, it was that right,
So it's it's the same type of thing. But yet
it's it's a it's a good argument over how do

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we respect this thing and the fact that we are
respecting our flag. So there's a certain premers are coming
to flying the flag respectively outside, and then it should
always be at the utmost highest peak if you're flying
it with other flags, if another flag pole is next
to it, the American flag should be at the right.

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Now whose perspective? Now, if it's the homeowner, the flag
should be on the right, and the other state or
federal flag should be on the left. But if I'm
in a church and I walk in and I see
a church flag and I see the American flag, well
where do they go?

Speaker 6 (01:31:31):
Which side? Do I wear them on or do I
post them on?

Speaker 10 (01:31:35):
Well, if it's on the stage with the pastor, the
American flag is to the pastor's right, the church flag
is to his left. But if they're forward of the pastor,
the colors now represent the congregation. And now I have
to flip the flags that the American flags to the
right and the church flag is on the left.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
Have to start writing things down.

Speaker 10 (01:31:57):
But this is to give it proper respet act of
who it is representing as a group, So as a
pastor on the stage, supporting the pastor and the church.

Speaker 6 (01:32:11):
The only time.

Speaker 10 (01:32:12):
A flag flies higher than the American flag is during
church services aboard a naval vessel.

Speaker 1 (01:32:21):
Okay, And how does that have a How did they
come about with that different rule?

Speaker 6 (01:32:26):
That is a great question when you don't ask the navy.

Speaker 1 (01:32:30):
And then here's the swirling question, and maybe a little
too wead dwelling for the purposes of this general discussion
about just having respect for the flag, when do you
fly it at half mass? My wife and I be
driving around and that big flag at half mass, I'm like, well,
maybe somebody in the business that the business owner died,
or someone within the business, because not all the flags
are being flown at half mass?

Speaker 2 (01:32:51):
Is there some general set of rules for that.

Speaker 10 (01:32:52):
So there's both federal and state So the state can
ask right that everybody fly their flag at half mass.
A state senator passes, a former governor passes, it's typically
someone of previous prominence within the state, right that the
governor wants to recognize maybe it was a state trooper
that was killed over a rodent cent or something, and

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so they'll half mast a flag. And business owners who
are flying the American flag, and we see large construction
companies just have like TQL has just mammos. We call
it a holiday flag. That's the size of a flag
they're flying. Right, So you would monitor a state website
to know when to half mass. The state's not going
to publish to everybody.

Speaker 6 (01:33:36):
Oh, by the.

Speaker 10 (01:33:36):
Way, Joey Johnson down on this road, did you know
if you have a flag, right, But the state has
a website that you can go to to view their
directions over flying half mass. And then federally, we know
the federal holidays, and a US senator passes, a former
president passes, there will be a proclamation to fly the
flags at half mass for determined amount of period.

Speaker 1 (01:33:57):
All right, Oh that makes sense to me. Still can
fused about the whole pastor situation in the church, But
you know, I'm not going to be responsible for that
decision making. Just fly a flag, respect it, take care
of it, retire it when it's appropriate. And I think
any casual observer could look at a flag and know
one way or another whether it's ready to retire, and
if it is, bring it to the flag retirement ceremony

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Union Townships ASATO.

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
Six fifty five krc DE talk station. Happy Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
Yes, it is. Listening to Lunch Wednesday. We'll be at
Anderson Pub and Grill had up to see you there.
I know I'm going to be seeing my summary inter
friend Mike. He just chimed in Navy morning colors, eight
o'clock evening colors sunset.

Speaker 2 (01:34:41):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:34:41):
Everybody's got their own rule, which gives our service members
something to fight about. And speaking of service members, I
did want to bring up the fact that it is
a men's mental health Awareness month, and I was talking
with Steve Belzer from the Klement County Veteran Services about
that and kind of wanted to bring it up. But
since the topic in the subject matter was of course
flag etiquette, the Flag Day and the flag retire ironment
ceremony that's taking place on Saturday, I wanted to keep

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it out of the equation. I'm pleased to pass along
considering and the sad realities. Of course, veterans commit suicide
at a much higher rate than the general population, A
little suicide is too much. But in terms of the statistics,
it's just it's frightening and I don't understand the reason
behind it. It's not for me to understand, but I'm
just passing a lot. That's reality. But what was twenty

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two veteran service A veteran or I guess maybe even
active duty service members committing suicide on a daily basis
is down about twenty five percent to seventeen. So it
may be that veterans are seeking more and more help
that is out there and available. I always support the VA,
and the VA has absolutely outstanding mental health benefits for

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the veteran community, So you know, it's really important to
get a grip on that. And if you are struggling
with suicidal ideation, please, for everyone in your life and
obviously for yourself, there's help out there. Just make sure
you know about this. The National Suicide Hotline, which is
nine eight eight nine eight eight.

Speaker 2 (01:36:10):
Think about it like that.

Speaker 1 (01:36:10):
You think about nine to one one, so suicidal ideation'
let's get that number down a lot, please and do
what you can along those lines. Let us see here
I talked about this a little bit earlier at the
top of the our news that I guess we're at
it again in terms of fighting. And oddly enough, on
the heels of yesterday's comments from Marco Ruby as well

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as Donald Trump. You thought yesterday things were going to
be over, because he did say the war is over.
Marco Ruby, Rubya did his first congressional testimony since the
launch of Operation Epic Fury. So as of yesterday, there
is a prospect, he said, which could happen today. It
could happen to Mark, could happened next week. For the
first time, certainly in my memory, they the Iridians have
agreed to negotiate aspects of the nuclear program, which over

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just over a month ago, and of course all the
way into last year and prior they were refused to
even mention his words. And of course he's sticking to
the terms that Donald Trump has been demanding for a
long time. Open up the straits of horror, moves, remove
the minds. We'll help do it, and of course limit
the nuclear enrichment program, things that the Iranians have refused
to do. Well, it ain't over, because, of course we

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were trading fire into this morning, exchange heavy fire, as
it's been described. We have the Iranians launching attack drones
at civilian watercraft. Going back to the keeping the strait
of horror moves close, which I know people will kind

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of Daniel Davis can rub you the wrong way in
terms of his outlook on the war, but I think
he's a very pragmatic and practical guy. I we have
not opened the strait of horror moves because apparently we
can't do that. If American military can't do it, then
how could anybody. It's too easy with modern military. Well,
I guess with modern warfare generally, we're relying on inexpensive

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little drones. They're hard to catch, they're hard to see,
and if you want to see what it's like to
be a Ukrainian soldier, for example, pivoting over to that
field of combat. Grand Thumb like the M one. Grand
Grand Thumb is a YouTube. He's a firearms expert, ex
military and he does all kinds of gun reviews and everything.
He did a show with some Ukrainian soldiers sort of

(01:38:29):
simulating what it's like to be in a situation with
drones flying around. They explain how the drones are used,
they explain how difficult it is and how you basically
have to not move when these drones are flying around.
But when you encounter them, I used to think that, oh,
come on, if you had a shotgun and you were
decent on the skie trap or five stand or sporting

(01:38:50):
clay realm, if you're a hunter generally speaking, oh I
could hit that.

Speaker 2 (01:38:53):
I could hit that. Oh my god, No.

Speaker 1 (01:38:57):
It's a hell of a lot more difficult. You have
these experience guys who are marksmen having a struggle trying
to knock one of those babies out of the sky.
They fly at an unbelievably fast pace and they zip
around like nobody's business. So grand thumb. Search for that.
You can see it for yourself and then you have
a sort of a realistic picture. But that's the kind
of thing we're facing over there. And they're easy to manufacture,

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and they're cheap, and I imagine the Chinese Communist Party
is more than happy to ferry some of those drones
on an unlimited basis into the Iranian So it's a constant.
You can't overcome that struggle, which is why the strait
of horror mouves can remain closed in the face of
the world's most powerful navy and military, but of course
it's streets run in two ways because we're keeping the
Iranian ports closed, and it becomes a battle of attrition.

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Who's going to be able to hold out longer. So
we blew up a boat that was trying to get
to or at least from the Iranian ports. Of course,
that's us upholding the port closure. They're of course shooting
ats civilian boats that are trying to make it through
the Strait of Horrmus because they've got it closed. And
the Iranians all so, responding to our strikes, shot ballistic

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missiles at Kuwait and Bahrain. We have military bases in
both places. They were successfully shot down. At least two
of the missiles that fired at Kuwait fell short or
alternatively broke apart in the air. Three missiles launched a
Bahrain intercepted by the United States as well as the
Bahrain air defenses, but apparently one of the airports got

(01:40:27):
hit and some people were injured. So there's that threat
that continues to remain. But on the heels of just
yesterday in the comments that sounded so positive, we seem
to be added again, and I struggled to kind of
come to grips with the idea that they're still saying
that this is in a ceasefire. If people are shooting
missiles at each other, how could we be in a ceasefire?

(01:40:51):
So five three, seven, four, nine fifty, five hundred, eight
hundred and eighty two to three talk pound five to
fifty on AT and T phones, love to hear from you.
And Jack Avan had made a comment about job openings
and why young I guess men aren't interested in going
out and getting jobs anymore these days. Some interesting information
sort of confirming what he had to say about that

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job openings hit their highest level. Openings available positions for
you and me highest level nearly a couple of years.
According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, seven seven point
six million jobs are available out there. That's a lot,
a surge of almost a little over three quarters of
a million jobs from the prior month and the highest

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level since May of twenty twenty four. Jumping openings puts
the available jobs above the total number of unemployed workers.
And I can hear those open border fans out there going, see,
that's what you need illegal immigrants for. We need more
immigrant forces in here. But the fact remains there are
more jobs available and apparently people who aren't employed. But

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I also remember that we now have a work obligation
for social welfare. Yeah, if you want to get some,
you got to at least step up to the plate
and try. If you are an able bodied human being
of working age, you need to try and get a job.
And apparently there's no excuse for not trying to get one,
because the whole bunch of them out there waiting for you.

(01:42:16):
Join the system, Join the growing well the ranks of taxpayers.
Taxpayers who complain about the taxation being too high because
they're working for a living, only to have the federal
government liberate a large chunk of their labor from the
paycheck to pay for what stupid things.

Speaker 2 (01:42:35):
And maybe if you.

Speaker 1 (01:42:35):
Were paying into the taxation system, you might pay closer
attention why you're working, and you also might want to
consider where the money's going and make a comment or
two about it. Enjoy the growing ranks of critics of
the bloated, insane federal government and in many cases state governments.
I'm not going to let them be excused, but growing

(01:42:55):
ranks of unhappy taxpayers because you see how much fraud
wark and abuses going out in the world, and that
represents your going to work and getting up and participating
and trying to put food on the table for your family.
We need more people like that. And something I alluded
to earlier in the program when Bobby called and I said,

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you know what, Bobby, I'll be doing a commercial for
twenty two to three a little bit later, twenty two
to three firearms of Route forty two between Mason and eleven.

Speaker 2 (01:43:22):
And talk station. It's eight nineteen.

Speaker 1 (01:43:25):
Ifify about Kercity talk Station at a Wednesday listener lunch
Anderson Pub and grow And before I get to the
phones and you can call too. I got more into
line one moment Marie five one, three, seven, four, nine, fifty,
five hundred and eight hundred eight two three talks found
five fifty on eight and t funds. Just to conclude
my thoughts, one more thing you want to complain about
if you are a taxpayer in the state of Ohio anyway,
how about the capital budget they dis released yesterday, including

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here great two point five million for the Farmer Music Center. Yeah,
that's the one the city of Cincinnati might be contributing
to as well, even though they didn't need the city's
money to build it, and it's by to the fact
that we already have more music venues than we need.

Speaker 2 (01:43:59):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:43:59):
But take comfort in knowing that they allocated two million
dollars to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame up
in Cleveland, and Cleveland will also be the beneficiary of
seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars which we're going to
put to build a sailing center at Cleveland Metro Parks.
I know sailing is a wildly popular thing. People of
all socioeconomic places get down their sailboats and they go sailing.

(01:44:25):
So of course that is an appropriate use of tax
payer dollars. Jumping over to the phone, Hey, Mareene, thanks
for calling this morning. It's always a pleasure hearing from you.

Speaker 11 (01:44:34):
Good morning, Brian. I just wanted to cover three top
stories that are kind of percolating behind the scenes. One
of them Tina Peters, who I've called in a few
times about. She's a county clerk from the Say Arizona.
She was arrested for doing what's called a trusted build
of the Dominion machines in Colorado. During the twenty twenty election.
The release of her from prison, Trump gave her a

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pardon and then the governor Polis ignored it until just
June first, she just got out, and that's said to
maybe trigger a lot of exposure about the twenty twenty
election fraught.

Speaker 2 (01:45:09):
It was real quick ont June.

Speaker 1 (01:45:11):
First, real quick on that. The reason she was incarcerated, well.

Speaker 11 (01:45:16):
It's kind of vague. They're trying to say that she
had an unauthorized person come in. Okay, she suspected something
was wrong. She knew that the dominion representatives were coming
in to do some updating to the machines, and she
wanted to get a picture, a snapshot of it ahead
of time to see if anything was changed later or
just to have, you know, kind of a ground zero

(01:45:39):
of what was occurring when she was on there, you know,
when she was on watch. Okay, well, they came in,
but she took pictures at a time she brought up
per Verson that supposedly very you know, authorized to do that,
and then she then they came in and they took
pictures or they did what they had to do and
updated it or whatever, and there was a discrepancy in

(01:46:02):
what she had at the time of her being county
clerk at the time of the twenty prection and when
they came in to do what they had to do,
and therefore they said she I don't know if they
said I don't know if tampered is the word, or
had an unauthorized person not the correct credentials doing what
The part where she wanted to verify what was She.

Speaker 1 (01:46:24):
Was convicted in Guelpy on a reasonable doubt for going
in and taking.

Speaker 11 (01:46:27):
A picture, yeah, or something about doing something with the machines.

Speaker 1 (01:46:32):
Well in a world where we had murderers out after
a moment in time, and it's kind of interesting that
they actually even bothered to incarceraate her for that. But
she's out pardoned by Trump and you're arguing, or you're
suggesting that we're going to get some information finally about this.

Speaker 11 (01:46:45):
Yes, yes, she's filed a suit against them.

Speaker 2 (01:46:48):
Oh yeah, I imagine.

Speaker 11 (01:46:49):
She was in for two over two years. Yeah, and
she was subjected to nine which is crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:46:56):
They let child rape this out in parole. Go ahead, Maureene,
I'm sorry. Another couple of the topics.

Speaker 11 (01:47:02):
Yeah, that'll be coming to the surface, pricing, and I
think you'll be starting to hear her name a little
bit more. The other one, I think is important. Was
Trump just signed an executive order called the Restoring Integrity
to America's Financial System, and that's targeting back accounts some
financial networks connected to legal immigration. So he's saying in
his true social post that he's going to be returning

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a lot of that money to the taxpayer. So we'll
keep our popcorn out on that one. And then the
third third story was just the other day. Well, the
rest happened in January, but the information didn't come out
till yesterday about an arrest in Detroit or recent foreign
then were found carrying vials of the monkey pox virus

(01:47:43):
oh no, deactivated, seventeen bials of deactivated monkey pox files
and one vial of the chicken pox virus and two
vials of human DNA. So I keep an eye out
for that story because that's about to hit the van
with the monkey pox and another person got bit by
a monkey in the lab. It's all unlinding before the election.

(01:48:07):
But one other thing, I know you're going to have
your guests on about GIPMO. I'm very interested in that subject,
as you know that. I bring it up a lot.
If you could get a chance, maybe ask them if
it's true. That they did an expansion of a geriatric
wing on Guantanamo Bay. I'm wondering if that'll tie to
the Fort Pierce, Florida investigations and grand jury that's going
on right now with some high level politicians.

Speaker 2 (01:48:29):
Yeah, he is.

Speaker 1 (01:48:30):
This is a judge Anapaultan are revisiting the well a
prosecution that is in its fifteenth year, including colleague Shaik Mohammed,
as well as a graphic description of what we put
that man through. And I'm not defending colleague Shake Mohammed,
and I know a lot of people out there. We'll
screw that guy. He's a terrorist. But the horror that

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this man went through and the torture that they put
him through in order to exact confessions is just it's
beyond my comprehension. And I would, honestly, I would say
anything that my torturer would want me to say if
I had gone through what this man went through. This
all goes down to the credibility of any statement that

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is given under torture. And I was quick to think
about Apostle Peter, who denied Christ three times, because of
course the Romans probably would have dispatched his life, you know,
taking his life from him if he had admitted to
being friends with and hanging out with Jesus Christ. Depends
on what you're facing, whether or not you're going to
say something it's true or not true. So that's what
the subject matters about. I don't know that it's okay.

Speaker 11 (01:49:34):
I'm misunderstood. I didn't really judge on him every Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (01:49:38):
Come on, Maureen, you know judge on everyone. I knew.

Speaker 11 (01:49:41):
I know you have him, but I thought you had
somebody that was going to talk more on my concerns
at that one time.

Speaker 1 (01:49:47):
No, your concerns are always welcome here in the morning show.
And thanks for giving us something to watch, Maureen. We'll
call her the pattern observer. Maureen, you know I love you,
and thanks for listening to the program, for calling in
this morning, and you too can stick around to hear
Judge Napolitana talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:49:59):
Get and Torture the talk station.

Speaker 1 (01:50:05):
Hey thirty one fifty five care see de talk station
Love this time of the week. Get to hear from
Judge Annapolitano. Judging Freedom is his podcast, follow him where
you get your podcasts. We'll deal with his subject matter
on today's Judging Freedom. Late at the end of the segment,
as we always do, but in the meantime, welcome back,
Judge Ennita Polatano. Always a pleasure of having you on
the program. And it was with great horror I read

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your column get mo and torture revisited, sort of a
painful to deal with recap of the fifteenth year of
the prosecution of colleague Sheik Muhammed and going into this, Judge,
it's kind of my response to you, and my emails suggested.
You know, I know there are people out in the
world because I've talked to so many of them. Screw
that guy. He's a terrorist, he hates America. I don't

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care what they did to him. He deserves whatever he got.
But it's bigger and more more important than that. And
who among us would not say whatever our torturers wanted
us to say if we were being subject to the
kind of violence this man was subjected to. I just
sign up to unaform whatever the look, Brian, this is
what we're going to do to you over the next

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several years. If you don't tell us what we want
I find tell me what you want me to tell you,
I'll sign this is That's what happens. With torture. I mean,
apostle Peter denied Jesus Christ three times and they didn't
even torture him. He just knew his life was in
jeopardy because of the Romans.

Speaker 5 (01:51:24):
The ex CIA agents and other government officials who have
participated in and orchestrated torture, as well as some of
the psychologists who have devised it, have said the exact
same thing that you did. After a while, the victim
tells the tortures whatever he or she thinks they want

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to hear, and it often doesn't correspond with reality. In
this case, the torture went on for three years, and
then there were admissions. Then there was in Guantanamo Bay
a second of interrogators who did not torture FBI, as
well as military and US intelligence, and again there were admissions.

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So the argument is, was his personal will so attenuated,
was his fear of the power of interrogators so extraordinary
that he would tell the second set what he thought
they wanted to hear. That's the issue before this judge.
The whole prosecution is a serious stain on the American

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judicial system because Lindsey Graham talked George W. Bush into
making this a military prosecution. If this had been a
criminal prosecution in Lower Manhattan, in Federal Court, which is
the principal place where the attacks occurred, where the world
trade towers were, this case would have been resolved many,
many years ago. But here we are fifteen years of litigation,

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five judges, forty four thousand pages of documents for the
newest judge to review, and no trial dates set yet
where he's on his sixth set of prosecutors. I mean,
this is just a monstrosity from the point of view
of American justice. And I understand the argument of your

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great listeners, who have such antipathy towards anybody that would
do what he admitted to doing. But if you allow
the government the slightest opening, if you allow the government
to get away with torture and denying due process, in
one instance, they'll drive a truck through it, and you

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never know who that truck will hit.

Speaker 1 (01:53:50):
Right going back to you know again, if I was
arrested by some government who headed out for me and
let me just put ourselves in the en the situation
of maybe a January six protester, Oh, they weren't prea
they were just doing whatever, the point being a lot
of them got arrested, a lot of them. People feel
that they were ill treated. But if they subjected the
January sixth protester to this type of torture, which I

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think needs to be explained, because the original torture, as
you boy, as you as you explained, waterboard one hundred
and eighty three times, hung by his wrist while naked
in a well lit walk in refrigerator where he was
freezing and couldn't sleep for days, head smashed repeatedly against
wooden walls, his rectum through which he was fed so
brutalized that he bled for months, often ingesting into his intestines,

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his own blood and fecal material.

Speaker 2 (01:54:37):
That's round one. And then they bring.

Speaker 1 (01:54:39):
About and they say, well, you're gonna get round two
unless you tell the judge that you weren't tortured.

Speaker 2 (01:54:47):
Is that the setup for.

Speaker 5 (01:54:48):
This, Yes, you bet, it's a setup for this. It
was so repellent that two sets of prosecutors ago not
the current prosecutors, but their predecessors, initiated plea agreements. The
prosecutors said the defense council, now that we know everything
that happened to this guy, we can't ethically defend this

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in a public courtroom, or when we go back to
the US, we won't have our because this is happening
in Cuba. We won't have our licenses to practice law.
So the government initiates plea agreements. A plea agreement is
entered into, it's agreed to by defense counsel, it's agreed
to by the defendants. It's agreed to by the prosecutors.
It's agreed to by the General and the Pentagon supervising

(01:55:31):
all the prosecutions. There are many prosecutions going on at Gittmo.
This is just the most notorious one, and it's agreed
to by the trial judge. Then the Secretary of Defense says,
I don't agree, fires the General who agreed. He withdraws
the Pentagon's approval. The trial judge says, too little, too late,
Secretary of Austin. The trial judge is reversed by an

(01:55:54):
appellate court, which says Austin has the final say it's
not too little, too late. The trial judge resigns, the
prosecutors resigned, A new prosecutorial team comes in, a new
trial judge comes in. That judge spends a year reading
forty four thousand pages of documents.

Speaker 3 (01:56:11):
You can't make this up.

Speaker 5 (01:56:12):
Brian and announced this week he's going to rule this
summer on whether the confession made to the second team
of interrogators, the ones that threatened a torture but didn't
actually torture, can be read to the jury. Can That's
where we.

Speaker 1 (01:56:31):
Are in that particular hearing and in considering that ruling
ken the court. Is the court going to be privy
to the torture he went through in the first round,
which certainly had an influence on this man in dealing
with the second inquiry because he knew what was coming
his way if he didn't concede.

Speaker 5 (01:56:48):
Yes, Yes, this trial judge before he can rule, has
to read everything. His predecessor is immediate predecessor, the one
who signed off on the guilty Plea held hours an
hour of testimony from the defendants themselves, from government psychiatrists
and from a defense psychiatrists about the effect of torture.

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Even the government psychiatrists admitted that the effect of brutalizing
torture can be so extreme that the victim will tell
anybody from his cellmate to the person bringing him food,
to his wife on the phone, anybody what he thinks
they want to hear because of the horrific fear of

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going through the torture.

Speaker 6 (01:57:33):
Again.

Speaker 5 (01:57:33):
What's interesting here is the second set of interrogators was
led by an FBI agent with thirty years experience. Did
he read these people? They're Miranda warnings? He forgot now
in a police station. That's the end of it.

Speaker 2 (01:57:53):
It is you don't read the Miranda warnings.

Speaker 5 (01:57:55):
No matter what the defendant says, that jury doesn't hear it.

Speaker 1 (01:58:00):
None of this evidence would be introduced in a criminal
court in the United States because it's you know that
old the way you boiled inns like fruit of the
poisonous tree. You can't beat a confession out of a
person and have that confession be admissible, Like you can't
kick in a door without a warrant, grab evidence and
present it in court because it will be suppressed because
you violated the constitutional rights of the owner of the
home whose door you kicked in. None of this would

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be admissible, meaning they wouldn't have a case.

Speaker 3 (01:58:24):
Correct.

Speaker 5 (01:58:24):
Theoretically, the same laws are applying here. But you know,
military justice is to justices, military music is to music.
This is just taking forever, in part because of the
military procedure that no judge can stay for longer than
three years. It's time for him to get promoted or retired.

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Great Lindsey Graham forgot to tell that to George Bush
when they set up this system.

Speaker 1 (01:58:51):
What a bizarre law of course. That sounds like something
was created in order to allow this to happen. It's
like people over at the CIA who won't produce documents
even though they've been ordered by law to produce them.
They wait around for another administration and then the issue
sort of goes away. Just wait for the next administration,
and we won't have to deal with the problem we're
presented with right now.

Speaker 2 (01:59:10):
It's like waiting around.

Speaker 1 (01:59:11):
It's like a battle of attrition three years for a
judge in a complex case like this, when it takes
about three years to get up to speed in order
to even hear the case, there's something fundamentally wrong with that,
your honor, I'll make.

Speaker 5 (01:59:22):
To make matters even worse. When the defendants told their
lawyers that they believed the torture was videotape, the defendants
subpoened the tapes. They disappeared, They disappeared.

Speaker 2 (01:59:39):
That never happens. That never happens, your honor. Nothing to
see here.

Speaker 1 (01:59:44):
So if you had to guess, I know how Judge
Enna Paula Tana would rule in that case if you're
the military tribunal judge. But what do you anticipate this
judge is going to do in resolving this just a
tea lea freeing ask.

Speaker 5 (01:59:55):
I think he's going to suppress the evidence. And before
you're viewers start throwing eggs at the screen, there is
much evidence of his guilt lawfully obtained. The government doesn't
even need these confessions in order to convict, but the

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government wants to use them just because that's the way
the government is.

Speaker 1 (02:00:21):
Okay, and I appreciate you bringing that back up because
that point serves as the predicate for why so many
people would say, well, screw this guy, he's a terrorist.
I don't care what they do to him. But again,
we're talking about torture here, and when you put it
out and beyond its confines in this situation, any government
would do it like they play fast and loose with
everything anymore. We don't want this going on, so we

(02:00:42):
will figure out only fifteen years later to finally going
me get an answer to the question Judgennapolitano, Judging Freedom
is your podcast. Who are you going to be speaking
with today?

Speaker 5 (02:00:52):
I have Aaron mante Pepe Escobar from the Saint Petersburg
Economic Forum in Saint Petersburg Mosque, Larry Johnson, who says
Pakistani intel told him Iran does have a new clear weapon.

Speaker 2 (02:01:11):
Oh jeez.

Speaker 5 (02:01:12):
And Phil Giraldi complaining quite properly about section two two
four of the National Defense Authorization Act, which would automatically
give Israeli officials access to American top secret information as.

Speaker 6 (02:01:27):
A matter of law.

Speaker 5 (02:01:30):
Oh, would you know that that is in the legislation.

Speaker 1 (02:01:34):
No, I did not, which is why I reacted exactly
the way I did. I'm in a state of disbelief
on that one, Judging a Polaitano. We will listen to
Judging Freedom today. Find the podcast where you get your podcasts,
and tune in every Wednesday at eight thirty here on
the fifty five Case Morning Show and enjoy the analysis
from Judging and Apolitano. Have a great week, my friend.
I won't be around next week. I'm getting my cancer

(02:01:55):
treatment Thursday Friday, So the next week I'm going to
be recovering from chemo. I got chemo brain and it
I just two weeks from today, Sir, I'll look

Speaker 5 (02:02:02):
Forward to the best, best of luck to you.