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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, oh five. Here at fifty five kerc DE talk station,
Brian Thomas swishing every one in very very happy Friday
as we head on into Mother's Day weekend. On a
happy Mother's Day at all the mom's out there, and
of course most notably my mom and of course my wife.
Without my wife, our kids will not have turned out
as great as they've turned out so far. And I
give my mom all the credit in the world. Shared
a little bit with my dad, of course, But good morning, Mom,
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and happy Mother's Day. And welcome back someone who understands
Mother's Day and the value of a great wife and mother.
Welcome back Corey Boum and former Merrill Kennedy. He's a
minister over on the East End. Also has a cough
coffee shop, King's Arms Coffee. Stop on it and get
yourself a cup of Joe. Welcome back, my friend's great
having you.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
On, Brian. It's always good being on a happy Mother's
Day to all the mother's out there. If my mom,
or if my mother in law, or if my wife,
which is standing right next to me are listening, Happy
Mother's Day to all them.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Well. An intelligent, smart man, you are you married out
of your league there, brother, just like I did. That's
a sign of a brilliant man. And sorry you weren't
mayor of the city.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
State.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah, it's the best. That's a foundation for success in life,
right there.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, absolutely, so.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Without further ado, your reaction to the primary results, twenty
percent turnout, I think a little under twenty in the
Greater since or in downtown Cincinnati, I guess was the turnout,
But any particular race sticks out as a good result
or something disappointed at Corey Bauman.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, well, I mean a couple of different points that
are good, which I really am looking at the bright
side of a lot of stuff, trying to find the
good and everything. What's moving forward to one of the
biggest things, Like you said, twenty percent turnout, that's going
to be a lot more than the primaries last year.
I think last year, I don't even know if we
hit ten percent in the primaries for the city election.
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So you're seeing that people are more involved in years
like this. It kind of gradually goes up. But hey,
more people involved the better. In these Republican democratic primaries,
you know a lot of times you don't see contested races,
but I did see a lot of contested races. I mean,
obviously you have your state, and you have your Congress,
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and you have the things going on there. But primarily
what I saw was in the state in the county
central committees and a precinct executive, which if anybody doesn't
know what those are, that's your local kind of grassroots
party involvement right there. So you have precinct executives in
every precinct. I believe there's there were five hundred in
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Hamilton County, and there was a lot more contested races
or new faces that were showing up to be precinct
executives where there were none previously. So that shows that
a lot more people are getting involved locally rather than
just watching the national politics.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I'm glad to hear that as well. And I suppose
ultimately because primaries are so critically important to getting the
best possible people in there, the fact that there's so
much more interest in those positions, the question is who
who are the people feeling it and what are their
political philosophies.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, so you're definitely seeing different groups of people get involved.
You know, people have different you know, words that they use,
whether establishment or grassroots. But Ultimately, it's just people that
want to make a difference. I kind of see it
as anybody that's willing to get into this realm. It's
either you're forced into it by people, which you know
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doesn't really happen a lot, or you're you're just really
passionate about getting involved in local politics. You're seeing a
lot of people that are emphasizing, like I said, the
grassroots effort, you know, going out door to door, getting
people involved locally. And I will say this, you saw
that a lot on the Democratic side as well, a
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lot of people that were already pre sift executives. They
saw contested races from there were whole organizations on the
Democratic Party side locally here in Hamilton. Tell me that
we're trying to get more people involved and get more
people that emphasize like door knocking and grassroots efforts because
they're fed up with how the city or of the
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county is being run, even on their side as well.
So that's encouraging.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Well, it wasn't encouraged to see the capitulation from the
Republicans on the ballot in Hamilton County that they didn't
even run people in various judicial races We've got a
problem with the judiciary in Hamilton County, the woke judges
who are not hard on crime, who allow these recidivous
individuals back on the street no bonds, and when it
comes time to sentencing after either a guilty plea or
conviction beyond a reasonable doubt, very light sentences for some
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quite often heinous crimes by recidivus. That was a sorry
state of affairs from my perspective. It's just like, you know,
last person out, pull the flag, We'll bring the flag
with you, but no one willing to run for these
judicial races. Did you react in a similar way when
you saw that, Corey Bowman, Well, I.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Think I'm seeing the races where I feel what is
the most important. I'm at least seeing them, seeing contested races,
like let's talk about the Juvenile court. You know you
have Judge Bloom right now, which is going to be
going against Susan Luken. And that's probably the biggest race
that I'm pushing this year, is Judge Susan Luken. Because
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of what we're seeing.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I'm sorry, I said Voelugan.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Oh, absolutely, because the thing is is that in the
city you're seeing major problems with youth violence, kids not
being held accountable. And then even so, I was even
talking with the judge, Judge McDowell. Judge Chris McDowell is
on the ballot this year as well. Amazing man, amazing judge.
He was in my church last Sunday and as we
were talking, he said, one of the biggest issues is
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that anybody that's in the court system and the judges,
they when kids that are like just turning eighteen enter
into the court system, if they see a harsh charge
from that perspective, they're shocked because if they got convicted
or if they got arrested when they were younger, the
juvenile system really doesn't hold them accountable. Yah. So we've
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got to start from the young up. When that starts
with the Luke and race with the Juvenile Corps, I
would encourage everybody get involved with that. I still feel
that the judicial races are the most important in Hamilton County.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
This year, Well, don't worry about it, because there's not
going to be juvenile crime this year. They've expanded the
They have the Summer in City program that they just
unveiled in the city of Cincinnata to help deal with
youth violence, which includes an expanded rec night program, So
from between five and ten pm there's all kinds of
opportunities for people to engage in sports and swim. And
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I just wonder, Corey Bowman, if these rec night programs
will well stop the gang members from engaging in their
nefarious activities, because I've learned that that seems to be
a big part of the problem that they're not talking about.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
No, you're right, And what happened was what I'm encouraged
by this year is that if they were just talking
about the rec programs, if they were just talking about
the community initiatives, then I would be like, oh, wow,
here we go again. It's a merrygor round of crime
and just of your soft on all these issues. That's
actually what happened last year the Act for SINSI program,
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three point two million dollars went into it, and the
primary focus of it was these community initiatives like rec nights,
cleaning up trash, just doing things like that that didn't
really address crime. What I will say is that this
year these programs, even though they do involve the rect
nights for the youth, which I think are important, they
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are going hand in hand with it. You watch Intern Henny,
he started mentioning that they were increasing patrols and that
they were increasing the drone program, they were intituing the curfew,
So you didn't see that last year. You only saw
people talking about that last year after July, and after
all the crime was happening and the election was looming,
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so then they were forced to deal with it. But
getting ahead of the game at least more than what
they did last year. And I want to commend INTERN
Chief Henny for stepping up and putting those programs out,
and actually anybody that was involved in putting the emphasis
on police rather than just community programs.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Well, going back to your point about holding younger children
accountable for their crimes before they make it to big
boycourt and find out what real consequences might be, I
guess I was a little concerned about Henny's comments about
the giving tickets out or citations for violations of the curfew,
which kicks in at eleven pm. So if they're not
going to issue citations and just give them a ride home,
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basically boiled down my comments with my perception of his comments,
is that going to do anything. If they're not going
to hand out tickets regularly.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Well, in my mind, what it depends on is, Okay,
if they accept the ride home, that's great. What if
they don't accept the ride home. What if they resist
the force attacked with the curfew, then what happens? Because
I think what they were addressing was the first case,
the best case scenario is, hey, they're taking kids home,
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they're getting them off the streets. But what you have
to address is what happens when you meet resistance, and
that's going to be the basically the deciding factor whether
this curfew actually works, because if they accept the ride home,
if they get off the streets, that's fine. But if
they don't get off the street, if they resist any
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direction that's happening from the officers. What happened last year
was there was nothing done. It was really just like, hey,
we're gonna make this curfew, but there's no consequence, right,
So that's kind of what the police need to focus on,
is having actual consequences to disobeying the curfew.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Well, the elephant in the room goes back to our
judicial race comments about juvenile court. If they enforce it
and they engage in, you know, actively involving and you know,
citing the children or forcing them to deal with the
juvenile courts. That's the only thing the police can do.
Then it's left in the hands of a juvenile judge
who slap them on hand let them out the door again,
the revolving door of justice. So that it kind of
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seems to be that a good proposal that doesn't have
the teeth on the back end.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah, Well, one thing that they did mention, So I'm
trying to be optimistic, right, hopefully hopefully that their words
actually carry weight and they're actually going to do what
they say this time around. Who knows, but they did
mention that the police we're going to actively pursue relation
or not relationships, but conversations with the judicial system to
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make sure that these low bonds and that these low
accountability convictions actually are getting dealt with. So I'm going
to try to take them at their word and say, hey,
if they're because this is stuff we were all pushing
for last year. So if they were actually going to say, hey,
we're going to address these issues, We're going to work
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with the judicial system make sure that the low bonds
are not the deciding factor in getting the criminals off
on the streets again, Let's hope for the best and
let's hope for a safe or safer summer in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Corey Bumer was bringing back talking about this lawsuit that
was filed by former tenants of the Preservation of Affordable
Housing program about some buildings and over the Rhine that
were found to have some really toxic chemicals in the
Corey Bowman stick around, will be right back with him
after these brief words.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
The talk station.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
It's a twenty here fifty five KCD talk station, Happy Friday.
Coming up, next segment, Jack windsor fingers cross primary results
and sudden resignation of Attorney General yos So. High Pressnetwork
dot coms where you find Dave. In the meantime, we
have Corey Bowman on the program, a former mayoral candidate,
business owner and resident of the city of Cincinnati, but
he does not live in a Preservation of Affordable Housing unit. Thankfully,
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the largest low income housing providers in the city. Apparently
now they're subject to a lawsuit. They found some really
hazardous material chloroform and benzene, which some are claiming led
to the sudden infant death of two children that were
living in the Preservation affordable housing units apparently a WCPO
and props to them. They've been reporting on this and
(12:13):
I got that article that you forwarded along to me,
and thanks for bringing that. One of my attention rats
sewage build ups, mold, no hot water, inoperable stoves. They
checked out Poe's more than nine hundred residential units that
have been finding these problems that have been existing for
a long time. This is I mean chloroform and benzene,
that's just toxic. Corey Bowmen, your reaction to this revelation, Well.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
For us, unfortunately, it's not a new revelation. For the
last several years, being a pastor in the West End,
we've done many outreaches in the area where the attendees
are tenants of OHA and Preservation of affordable housing. You know,
there's a couple other different organizations in the city to
operate the same way. Unfortunately, a lot of these tenants
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face some very bad circumstances when it comes to their
conditions for their housing. Primarily, what we've heard is mold.
We've heard the lack of HVAC he and ac in
during the seasons, and this is something that when they
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actually complain to the authority. They get told either want
to just wipe up the mold, spray paint over it,
or they get threatened to be evicted because there's such
a waiting list for housing in the city that they
don't care about taking care of their tenants. Now, keep
in mind, this is organization specifically received a million dollar
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grant last year from our city manager to be able
to improve the lives of tenants. And this is something
that's not only from the past, like the lawsuits coming
from twenty twenty three. These are conditions that are currently
happening right now. And I can attest to that from
specific people I've talked to on the streets that are
in the West.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yeah. And you know what I keep hearing from all
the climate change advocacy. We need to get rid of
gasoline and everything because of the pollution it causes asthma.
It's going to cause your asthma problems. How about the
black mold. It is documentary. You can extrapolate make up
whatever thing you want about whether or not pollution in
the air generally does causes asthma. Of course it probably does,
but black mold is noted for its causing sneezing and
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coughing and irritation as well as a worsening asthma's symptoms.
So that will be a great start. Plus it would
create a habitable living environment if you got rid of
the black mold.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
No, it's so true. You got to understand too that
these organizations are well funded. Yeah, these aren't like just
struggling landlords. Do you know that, hud. I mean President
Trump tried to get it down to thirty two million,
and Congress are thirty two billion, and Congress still approved
it for seventy two billion dollars for last year for
the f all this funding is coming through not only that,
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but through the city budget as well. These are, for
lack of better words, it's slum lawns. These are people
that pocket money that do not take care of the
tenants that they have with the proper funding that we
know they receive. And this is a major issue. We're
seeing this with it with organizations like CMHA, We're seeing
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this with many organizations in the city. And I'm not
here to just bash and just say hey, not present
a solution. All I'm saying is you're well funded, your
tenants are struggling. You know, Yes, the affordable housing situation.
We got to give people a leg up to be
able to get out of poverty. We don't want them
to just stay in this type of housing for the
rest of their life. At the same time, if they're
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accepting these benefits, and if the organizations are being as
well funded as they are, I would expect ten times
better maintenance of their buildings and ten times better care of.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Their tenants, no doubt about it. And miss wildly curious
us what the salaries are for those that are responsible
for running the preservation of affordable housing just a while
and uh yeah, if I was a betting man, Corey Bowman,
that's where my money would be. Corey Bowman, I appreciate
your tireless efforts on behalf of all residents of the
city of Cincinnati and bringing this these issues to our
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attention here on the fifty five KRSE Morning Show. You're
always welcome and I hope you have a wonderful Mother's
Day weekend. And congratulations again for well out kicking your
coverage when you got married my friend, have a great
day on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Thank you, Brian. You guys have a great day.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Thank you too. We'll talk real soon. Corey Bowman stick
around Jack Wins or primary results, the resignation of Attorney
General Yost, among other topics. Coming up next from the
Ohio Press Network. Jack Wins will be right back.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
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