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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Fifty five KRC at each talk station seven o five
on this Tuesday morning. Day girl, I'll sitting for Brian
Thomas who is getting a little getting a little R
and R today, so uh good for him and we
uh we'll see what happens tomorrow. In the meantime, we
have my first time meeting brother Andre Ewing, who has
(00:32):
graced us with his presence in studio this morning. And
Andre Ewing, welcome to fifty five KRC. It's good to
meet you, sir.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Good to meet you as well.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Bardin everything going, everything is.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Beautiful this morning.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
You are you are bundled up, my friend. Yes, sir,
you're free to take that jacket and that if you
if you feel.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I'm prepared this how this is how I work out
in the jail. I work out to be hot. I'm not.
I'm not here to just show off the muscularity. I
need to be hot when I'm in the jails.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
All right, Well, it's great to media. Former Cincinnati police Yes, sir.
How long on the job?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Close to thirty years? Just shot thirty years? Yes, sir,
yes sir.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
How hard is it to walk away?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Oh, it wasn't hard at all. It wasn't hard at
all for you, not at all. I checked all the boxes,
did exactly what I needed to do, serve to the
best of my ability, and just had an awesome time
serving the community and doing what was necessary. And it
was time to finally just move on to better things.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
So thirty years on the job, what the things that
you do now? You do a lot on social media,
You comment a lot on what is happening in and
around Cincinnati as it relates to police issues, safety issues.
What kind of perspective has that given you? What was
(02:00):
giving me now now that you were on the inside
and that now you're outside looking.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
At I would give me a lot of perspective. And
I've tried, even in my lengthy career to what I say,
exercise my gifts to the command staffs, give them the
knowledge of interacting with communities, and it's really giving me
a true focus on what is happening today. And when
(02:25):
I was on here last time talking to Brian, I'm
just disappointed in a lot of the community activities and
involvement that the police is not being able to do
and implement at this pretty time. And we always see
that they're always late. When I mean late is is
we should have done this, but we didn't do this.
(02:45):
The police is not in line with council. Council is
not in line with the mayor. The mayor is not
aligned with the chief. The chief is not aligned with
the city manager. And what I call it is one
big hot mess.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
It is a hot mess. And uh, I don't know
if you heard Chris Chris Smithman yesterday, but I I
was trying to check myself after the most recent election,
and there was a there was a shooting that happened.
And this is not the one that was in the
(03:19):
West End where the eleven year old girl was killed.
This was one that happened and and it was it
was just a day or two after the election, and
there and and and I said, you know what, this
is what the people of Cincinnati voted for. The people
of Cincinnati voted for a city council that does not
feel the need to address crime in a serious way.
(03:41):
We have a mayor who talks about it and says
he's got a plan for this, that and the other thing,
and then comes out on his inauguration day and says, hey, uh,
we're going to have public we need public safety. We're
going to have to ask you to dig a little
bit deeper, caugh up a little bit more money. Well,
I think we have a city manage who is in
(04:01):
over her head when it comes with dealing comes to
dealing with serious issues like this. And so I asked
Chris Smith, and I said, am I off base here?
Suggesting that this is what the voters, the small amount
of voters who turned out in this last election cycle.
I said, is this what representative of what they voted
(04:23):
for to continue these kind of policies? And he said, yeah,
I'll ask you the same question. Is this what the
majority of voters said? We're fine with the way things
are going at city Hall because everything that's going on
right now was going on before. And I don't see
anything to indicate that there's going to be any sort
(04:45):
of meaningful change or this will be addressed in a
meaningful way.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Correct, to make it straight and simple, Yes, you get
what you want. It looked like a duck. Quite like
a duck. Walk like a duck. It's a duck. Aftad
was very clear. He said that he was gonna raise taxes,
whether it's through the public safety or whether it's through housing.
He told everybody he was gonna raise taxes. So at
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this point, are you surprised, And my surprise, absolutely not,
because we've already seen the body of work. So to
be honest with you, at this point, no one should
be shocked. No one should be surprised because we've seen
how the administration operates and this is what you get
when you deal with this type of process in this
(05:31):
type of system. So I keep things straight to the point,
brother dan I'm not surprised, and it's gonna continue to
get worse. The taxpayers are gonna get slammed, and this
is going to be one of the worst summers that
is going to happen here in Cincinnati. I've predicted it
several times on my pages, and everything I've predicted has
(05:52):
come to pass. Dealing whether it's city issues, whether it's
being homicized, whether it's being crime constantly going up within
the community, it all has been predicted and come to pass.
Just like with the issues that went on with Captain
Danita Pettis, I predicted she was going to get everything back,
all back paying benefits, and when she was terminated, I
(06:15):
immediately came out with a post and told her to
hold your hell up how Why Because I knew the system,
I knew how vicious the system could be. I knew
she was a target. And here we are today she
is a one hundred percent winner and has been awarded
everything back, paying all benefits.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah. I'll be honest. I did not follow the Denita
Pettest story all that closely when it was rolling out
in real time. But when I saw the statement that
Ken Kober put out on this a couple of days ago,
I read that and it just it just smacked to
(06:56):
me of that there was heavy handed political influence in
everything that surrounded her. Correct. Correct, And that, to my
way of thinking, that is not what the Cincinnati Police
Department should be about. I think we had a long
history with the Cincinnati Police Department where they were in
(07:18):
a position to resist that sort of thing. I mean,
there's stories about Tom Striker when he was the police chief.
You know, he would have you know, the mayor or
other political figures would walk into his office and say Chief,
I need you to do this, that and the other thing,
and he would say, there's the door, get the hell
out of my office. So I think the way that
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we have things set up now that the chief doesn't
have that same ability. And I say resist because I'm
not naive enough to believe that there's never any political
influence in the police department. But I think it's gotten
to such a point now to where it's sort of
part and parcel of the everyday activity.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Right But I'm gonna ask you, brother Dan, what's the
truth right now? What is actually the truth? What everybody
is putting blame on everybody when I've been very consistent.
I've actually said from the mayor, from the city manager,
from the chief, get rid of all of them. See,
I'm not just gonna point the finger at one person,
because this is an entire body of work. And when
(08:21):
you have an entire body of work like this, no
one gets a pass from me, not one particular person.
And this is where we have to be honest and
real about the situations. And I have proof just looking
at the report, even from the decision from the arbitrators
and Attorney Kimberly Rotowski is clear and she said it
(08:43):
not in her twenty plus years has she ever seen
anything as egregious as this particular arbitration filing and what
the city did to captain Denita Pettis.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
So and you know what. You asked me, what is
the true truth right now? And and we got we
got a break coming up here. So I will tell
you what I what my perception of the true and
look what my perception of the truth is may not
be actually true, but I I can, I can, I
can read, I can look, I can see what's going on,
(09:16):
and I know, I know the message that I think
that is being sent forth and it's it's it's not
one that that we should be proud of.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
That's right. So that's right.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, So I'll expound that. We got to get to
a quick little break here and we will continue with
brother Andre Ewing on the other side of this, Dan
Carroll and for Brian Thomas on fifty five KRC. The
talk station Experience, Comfort and Reliability was zimmer HVAC for
over seventy five years. Immensure the talk station. It's all
(09:49):
about being an individual.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Come on, let's go.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
You know what I'm saying, Yes, sir, you know did
you hear Chris Smithaman yesterday talking about his thoughts on
MLK now that he had an hour on with Brian
Thomas yesterday? Was that was just a great hour of radio.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
He is so passionate. Shout out to Christopher Smitherman. He
is amazing. He's passionate, extremely intelligent, and the city passed
up on a very very educated and reasonable man. And
I just want to give him a shout out. All
some father and all SOMEO just mentor and I appreciate
(10:26):
him in every way.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah, he loves the city, He loves Hamilton County. He
wants only the best for this city and it pains
him to see the path that we are taking as
a city right now. So you asked me before, you know,
what's the truth. Well, the truth as I see it,
is that the message that is going out right now
(10:50):
is that crime pays in the city of Cincinnati. When
I see a settlement of eight point one million dollars,
that is going to be a final answer windfall for
hundreds of individuals who came into our city, that that
broke curfew, that damaged property. There was a Cincinnati police
officer who, thank god, he had a kevlar helmet on
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it was hit with a bullet. The notion that because
you had and I remember saying this at the time
back in twenty twenty, and I would go to my
TV every night and my wife would say, what do
you want to watch on TV? I say, well, I'm
gonna I'm gonna watch the riots tonight. See. You know,
(11:35):
is it Philadelphia? Is it Chicago? Is it some other
city that has cars overturned and things are burning and
all the rest of it. You know, we it was
going on in Minneapolis, and so you had all these
riots that were spreading all across the country, all these
different cities, right, and then it tried to come to Cincinnati,
and I said, Cincinnati police did the right They nipped
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this in the butt. We had some stort, We had
what there was like forty different businesses had their windows
broken out, damage, all kinds of just terrible things that
was going on. And the Cincinnati police nipped it in
the butt and did what they could. Then John Cranley
comes out, the mayor, and says, purfew, We're not tolerating this.
We're going to shut it down. People go out. The
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next night, they get arrested, hundreds of people. The only
place they can go is to the Hamilton County Justice Center.
Takes a while to get them all into the justice center.
And so based on that that they were you know,
they had to sit outside for a little while, or
maybe they didn't get a bottle of water, or they
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you know, maybe they didn't have their medication with So
they sue, and then we turn around and say we're
going to pay these people eight point one million dollars.
Then Ken Kober comes out a couple of weeks ago
and says he's caught wind of that there could possibly
be a settlement in the works, or the Hinton family
(13:02):
a terrible tragedy with that young man who decided to
boost some cars with some buddies of his. They get
caught by police, they run, he's got a gun, turns
toward police, and all those sort of facts get blurred
that they're talking about a settlement with him. Then we
have the settlement that gets announced with the other young
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man whose name escapes me at the moment, who also
pointed a gun at police. Was there some question there, possibly,
but the police were cleared. We don't stand behind them.
So the message that is going out is that crime
pays in the city of Cincinnati. And I think those
who are of such a mind look at that, see
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what's happening, and the results are what they are.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Well, the bottom line, Dan is that there's no trust
in this city. Zero trust and crime does pay excuse me,
from what we see on a daily basis, and there's
no real structure of what we see. And that's why
I said that the city is broken. The structure is broken,
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and something needs to pull back this entire process. And
of course, since we have four more years of administration
and council, we're going to get the exact same results.
There's something that's going on with the city manager writing
all these checks, feeling very very passionate about giving individuals
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large sums of money regardless of the facts or even
how the information comes out. And this is where we
have to really look at what is going on with
our city leaders. That none of them are on the
same page. And when you lose trust, you lose the community.
When you lose the community, you are in trouble. And
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this is a clear fact of how these situations go.
But even taken from when we talk about, say the
collaborative agreement that everybody brings up. But what's interesting, within
like a twenty four to forty eight hour period, they
have to show the family the videotape of what the
shooting and what has occurred immediately. Now, really that is
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backfired because emotionally, you bring in a father and that's
what they're claiming now that he witnessed his son being
a shot and killed writing on a video. But now
there was no structure in place, and they just allow
him to leave without proper council, proper care, proper prep
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to show you what's going on. And he leaves this
situation and then goes kills Officer Henderson. So now they
need to re evaluate the entire collaborative agreement. And what
does it look like for someone to review your child
or your loved one being murdered. Yeah, that would shock anybody.
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I don't care who you are. That will shock anybody.
But now what do we do when we just allow
a system to just tell you and demand I never
liked the situation of just releasing information immediately within like
twenty four hours, because there's so much deeptail that needs
to be expressed. And so what do you get? You
get emotion versus reason. And when you deal with that,
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brother Dan, you get a hot mess once again is
what you have in this city. But you know, I
know that with all that being said, I wanted to
get on the situation, which you know, Captain Pettis and
how she scored super super high on all these exams.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Yeah, you brought the brought the receipts right here.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
I brought the receipts second highest lieutenant score when she
was twenty twenty fourteen to twenty fifteen, second highest captain score.
So there was no DEI for Captain Pettis. This woman
is brilliant. She has skills. I mean, her her resume
is incredible. She was she served in the Records commander.
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She was a Special Service Section Commander, Guns Crime Tour
Task Force Commander, Planning Section Commander, Civil Disturbance Response Team Commander,
and a subject matter specialist when it comes to promotional exams.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
This minute, that was something. Yeah, that was something you
mentioned to me when you walked in this morning, that
that she is not a DEI higher. And I have
not seen individuals who are criticizing her in that sort
of way, but you're telling me that there's a I
guess there's a faction out there that is suggesting that
Captain Pettis was a DEI higher.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Absolutely absolutely on social media pages that that we always
see that they're saying, because she's a black woman, she
must have just didn't earn it. But I'm here to
sit back and say it's clear that it's obvious that
she earned it. And obviously when the arbitrators, three of them, mind.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
You, well, they are clearly mistaken and don't know what
the hell they're talking about.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Absolutely, yes, sir, And that's why I said that Chief
Fiji doesn't get a pass. We can't just put this
on the city manager. Because even in the Chief Thiji's
own writing, she said, I'm disapproving Chief McKinley's recommendation he's
a fire chief and recommending Captain Pettis be dismissed from
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the CPD. So don't put it on Cheryl Long. Shrel
Long messed up by just taking a piece of paper
and just signing it. You don't sign anything or concur
with anything until you read the fine print. And this
is where a counsel and everyone else instead of making
all these payoffs, even with Michael Washington, I give him
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a shout out. People better start sitting back and reevaluating
the whole charter on the power of the city manager
because she is making a wreck of this entire city.
And how much money do the taxpayers have?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Well, it seems that and we got to run. But
it seems to me that her way of doing business
is to reach into the treasury and write write a
check in order to address an issue.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
And I will never ever solve anything.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Absolutely, Pastor, you're also a pastor. Leave us with before
we let you go, leave us with a good word
that we can we can think about during the course
of the day time.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
What a good word is out of the abundance of
the heart. The mouth speaks, and you have to be
careful what is in your heart. And so when you
see somebody today, don't judge them. Go into them, look
them in an eye, tell them you love them, tell
them God bless them. And won't you actually pray with them,
talk with them just for a moment. You might be
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surprised what you both have in common.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Andre Ewing, great to meet you, my friend. Likewise, I
hope you get a chance to do this again.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yes, sir, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
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on this Tuesday morning. Day girl, I'll sitting for Brian
Thomas who is getting a little getting a little R
and R today, so uh good for him and we
uh we'll see what happens tomorrow. In the meantime, we
have my first time meeting brother Andre Ewing, who has
(00:32):
graced us with his presence in studio this morning. And
Andre Ewing, welcome to fifty five KRC. It's good to
meet you, sir.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Good to meet you as well.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Bardin everything going, everything is.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Beautiful this morning.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
You are you are bundled up, my friend. Yes, sir,
you're free to take that jacket and that if you
if you feel.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I'm prepared this how this is how I work out
in the jail. I work out to be hot. I'm not.
I'm not here to just show off the muscularity. I
need to be hot when I'm in the jails.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
All right, Well, it's great to media. Former Cincinnati police Yes, sir.
How long on the job?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Close to thirty years? Just shot thirty years? Yes, sir,
yes sir.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
How hard is it to walk away?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Oh, it wasn't hard at all. It wasn't hard at
all for you, not at all. I checked all the boxes,
did exactly what I needed to do, serve to the
best of my ability, and just had an awesome time
serving the community and doing what was necessary. And it
was time to finally just move on to better things.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
So thirty years on the job, what the things that
you do now? You do a lot on social media,
You comment a lot on what is happening in and
around Cincinnati as it relates to police issues, safety issues.
What kind of perspective has that given you? What was
(02:00):
giving me now now that you were on the inside
and that now you're outside looking.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
At I would give me a lot of perspective. And
I've tried, even in my lengthy career to what I say,
exercise my gifts to the command staffs, give them the
knowledge of interacting with communities, and it's really giving me
a true focus on what is happening today. And when
(02:25):
I was on here last time talking to Brian, I'm
just disappointed in a lot of the community activities and
involvement that the police is not being able to do
and implement at this pretty time. And we always see
that they're always late. When I mean late is is
we should have done this, but we didn't do this.
(02:45):
The police is not in line with council. Council is
not in line with the mayor. The mayor is not
aligned with the chief. The chief is not aligned with
the city manager. And what I call it is one
big hot mess.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
It is a hot mess. And uh, I don't know
if you heard Chris Chris Smithman yesterday, but I I
was trying to check myself after the most recent election,
and there was a there was a shooting that happened.
And this is not the one that was in the
(03:19):
West End where the eleven year old girl was killed.
This was one that happened and and it was it
was just a day or two after the election, and
there and and and I said, you know what, this
is what the people of Cincinnati voted for. The people
of Cincinnati voted for a city council that does not
feel the need to address crime in a serious way.
(03:41):
We have a mayor who talks about it and says
he's got a plan for this, that and the other thing,
and then comes out on his inauguration day and says, hey, uh,
we're going to have public we need public safety. We're
going to have to ask you to dig a little
bit deeper, caugh up a little bit more money. Well,
I think we have a city manage who is in
(04:01):
over her head when it comes with dealing comes to
dealing with serious issues like this. And so I asked
Chris Smith, and I said, am I off base here?
Suggesting that this is what the voters, the small amount
of voters who turned out in this last election cycle.
I said, is this what representative of what they voted
(04:23):
for to continue these kind of policies? And he said, yeah,
I'll ask you the same question. Is this what the
majority of voters said? We're fine with the way things
are going at city Hall because everything that's going on
right now was going on before. And I don't see
anything to indicate that there's going to be any sort
(04:45):
of meaningful change or this will be addressed in a
meaningful way.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Correct, to make it straight and simple, Yes, you get
what you want. It looked like a duck. Quite like
a duck. Walk like a duck. It's a duck. Aftad
was very clear. He said that he was gonna raise taxes,
whether it's through the public safety or whether it's through housing.
He told everybody he was gonna raise taxes. So at
(05:10):
this point, are you surprised, And my surprise, absolutely not,
because we've already seen the body of work. So to
be honest with you, at this point, no one should
be shocked. No one should be surprised because we've seen
how the administration operates and this is what you get
when you deal with this type of process in this
(05:31):
type of system. So I keep things straight to the point,
brother dan I'm not surprised, and it's gonna continue to
get worse. The taxpayers are gonna get slammed, and this
is going to be one of the worst summers that
is going to happen here in Cincinnati. I've predicted it
several times on my pages, and everything I've predicted has
(05:52):
come to pass. Dealing whether it's city issues, whether it's
being homicized, whether it's being crime constantly going up within
the community, it all has been predicted and come to pass.
Just like with the issues that went on with Captain
Danita Pettis, I predicted she was going to get everything back,
all back paying benefits, and when she was terminated, I
(06:15):
immediately came out with a post and told her to
hold your hell up how Why Because I knew the system,
I knew how vicious the system could be. I knew
she was a target. And here we are today she
is a one hundred percent winner and has been awarded
everything back, paying all benefits.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah. I'll be honest. I did not follow the Denita
Pettest story all that closely when it was rolling out
in real time. But when I saw the statement that
Ken Kober put out on this a couple of days ago,
I read that and it just it just smacked to
(06:56):
me of that there was heavy handed political influence in
everything that surrounded her. Correct. Correct, And that, to my
way of thinking, that is not what the Cincinnati Police
Department should be about. I think we had a long
history with the Cincinnati Police Department where they were in
(07:18):
a position to resist that sort of thing. I mean,
there's stories about Tom Striker when he was the police chief.
You know, he would have you know, the mayor or
other political figures would walk into his office and say Chief,
I need you to do this, that and the other thing,
and he would say, there's the door, get the hell
out of my office. So I think the way that
(07:41):
we have things set up now that the chief doesn't
have that same ability. And I say resist because I'm
not naive enough to believe that there's never any political
influence in the police department. But I think it's gotten
to such a point now to where it's sort of
part and parcel of the everyday activity.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Right But I'm gonna ask you, brother Dan, what's the
truth right now? What is actually the truth? What everybody
is putting blame on everybody when I've been very consistent.
I've actually said from the mayor, from the city manager,
from the chief, get rid of all of them. See,
I'm not just gonna point the finger at one person,
because this is an entire body of work. And when
(08:21):
you have an entire body of work like this, no
one gets a pass from me, not one particular person.
And this is where we have to be honest and
real about the situations. And I have proof just looking
at the report, even from the decision from the arbitrators
and Attorney Kimberly Rotowski is clear and she said it
(08:43):
not in her twenty plus years has she ever seen
anything as egregious as this particular arbitration filing and what
the city did to captain Denita Pettis.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
So and you know what. You asked me, what is
the true truth right now? And and we got we
got a break coming up here. So I will tell
you what I what my perception of the true and
look what my perception of the truth is may not
be actually true, but I I can, I can, I
can read, I can look, I can see what's going on,
(09:16):
and I know, I know the message that I think
that is being sent forth and it's it's it's not
one that that we should be proud of.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
That's right. So that's right.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, So I'll expound that. We got to get to
a quick little break here and we will continue with
brother Andre Ewing on the other side of this, Dan
Carroll and for Brian Thomas on fifty five KRC. The
talk station Experience, Comfort and Reliability was zimmer HVAC for
over seventy five years. Immensure the talk station. It's all
(09:49):
about being an individual.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Come on, let's go.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
You know what I'm saying, Yes, sir, you know did
you hear Chris Smithaman yesterday talking about his thoughts on
MLK now that he had an hour on with Brian
Thomas yesterday? Was that was just a great hour of radio.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
He is so passionate. Shout out to Christopher Smitherman. He
is amazing. He's passionate, extremely intelligent, and the city passed
up on a very very educated and reasonable man. And
I just want to give him a shout out. All
some father and all SOMEO just mentor and I appreciate
(10:26):
him in every way.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah, he loves the city, He loves Hamilton County. He
wants only the best for this city and it pains
him to see the path that we are taking as
a city right now. So you asked me before, you know,
what's the truth. Well, the truth as I see it,
is that the message that is going out right now
(10:50):
is that crime pays in the city of Cincinnati. When
I see a settlement of eight point one million dollars,
that is going to be a final answer windfall for
hundreds of individuals who came into our city, that that
broke curfew, that damaged property. There was a Cincinnati police
officer who, thank god, he had a kevlar helmet on
(11:13):
it was hit with a bullet. The notion that because
you had and I remember saying this at the time
back in twenty twenty, and I would go to my
TV every night and my wife would say, what do
you want to watch on TV? I say, well, I'm
gonna I'm gonna watch the riots tonight. See. You know,
(11:35):
is it Philadelphia? Is it Chicago? Is it some other
city that has cars overturned and things are burning and
all the rest of it. You know, we it was
going on in Minneapolis, and so you had all these
riots that were spreading all across the country, all these
different cities, right, and then it tried to come to Cincinnati,
and I said, Cincinnati police did the right They nipped
(11:57):
this in the butt. We had some stort, We had
what there was like forty different businesses had their windows
broken out, damage, all kinds of just terrible things that
was going on. And the Cincinnati police nipped it in
the butt and did what they could. Then John Cranley
comes out, the mayor, and says, purfew, We're not tolerating this.
We're going to shut it down. People go out. The
(12:19):
next night, they get arrested, hundreds of people. The only
place they can go is to the Hamilton County Justice Center.
Takes a while to get them all into the justice center.
And so based on that that they were you know,
they had to sit outside for a little while, or
maybe they didn't get a bottle of water, or they
(12:41):
you know, maybe they didn't have their medication with So
they sue, and then we turn around and say we're
going to pay these people eight point one million dollars.
Then Ken Kober comes out a couple of weeks ago
and says he's caught wind of that there could possibly
be a settlement in the works, or the Hinton family
(13:02):
a terrible tragedy with that young man who decided to
boost some cars with some buddies of his. They get
caught by police, they run, he's got a gun, turns
toward police, and all those sort of facts get blurred
that they're talking about a settlement with him. Then we
have the settlement that gets announced with the other young
(13:23):
man whose name escapes me at the moment, who also
pointed a gun at police. Was there some question there, possibly,
but the police were cleared. We don't stand behind them.
So the message that is going out is that crime
pays in the city of Cincinnati. And I think those
who are of such a mind look at that, see
(13:44):
what's happening, and the results are what they are.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Well, the bottom line, Dan is that there's no trust
in this city. Zero trust and crime does pay excuse me,
from what we see on a daily basis, and there's
no real structure of what we see. And that's why
I said that the city is broken. The structure is broken,
(14:10):
and something needs to pull back this entire process. And
of course, since we have four more years of administration
and council, we're going to get the exact same results.
There's something that's going on with the city manager writing
all these checks, feeling very very passionate about giving individuals
(14:33):
large sums of money regardless of the facts or even
how the information comes out. And this is where we
have to really look at what is going on with
our city leaders. That none of them are on the
same page. And when you lose trust, you lose the community.
When you lose the community, you are in trouble. And
(14:55):
this is a clear fact of how these situations go.
But even taken from when we talk about, say the
collaborative agreement that everybody brings up. But what's interesting, within
like a twenty four to forty eight hour period, they
have to show the family the videotape of what the
shooting and what has occurred immediately. Now, really that is
(15:16):
backfired because emotionally, you bring in a father and that's
what they're claiming now that he witnessed his son being
a shot and killed writing on a video. But now
there was no structure in place, and they just allow
him to leave without proper council, proper care, proper prep
(15:38):
to show you what's going on. And he leaves this
situation and then goes kills Officer Henderson. So now they
need to re evaluate the entire collaborative agreement. And what
does it look like for someone to review your child
or your loved one being murdered. Yeah, that would shock anybody.
(15:59):
I don't care who you are. That will shock anybody.
But now what do we do when we just allow
a system to just tell you and demand I never
liked the situation of just releasing information immediately within like
twenty four hours, because there's so much deeptail that needs
to be expressed. And so what do you get? You
get emotion versus reason. And when you deal with that,
(16:22):
brother Dan, you get a hot mess once again is
what you have in this city. But you know, I
know that with all that being said, I wanted to
get on the situation, which you know, Captain Pettis and
how she scored super super high on all these exams.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Yeah, you brought the brought the receipts right here.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
I brought the receipts second highest lieutenant score when she
was twenty twenty fourteen to twenty fifteen, second highest captain score.
So there was no DEI for Captain Pettis. This woman
is brilliant. She has skills. I mean, her her resume
is incredible. She was she served in the Records commander.
(17:01):
She was a Special Service Section Commander, Guns Crime Tour
Task Force Commander, Planning Section Commander, Civil Disturbance Response Team Commander,
and a subject matter specialist when it comes to promotional exams.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
This minute, that was something. Yeah, that was something you
mentioned to me when you walked in this morning, that
that she is not a DEI higher. And I have
not seen individuals who are criticizing her in that sort
of way, but you're telling me that there's a I
guess there's a faction out there that is suggesting that
Captain Pettis was a DEI higher.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Absolutely absolutely on social media pages that that we always
see that they're saying, because she's a black woman, she
must have just didn't earn it. But I'm here to
sit back and say it's clear that it's obvious that
she earned it. And obviously when the arbitrators, three of them, mind.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
You, well, they are clearly mistaken and don't know what
the hell they're talking about.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Absolutely, yes, sir, And that's why I said that Chief
Fiji doesn't get a pass. We can't just put this
on the city manager. Because even in the Chief Thiji's
own writing, she said, I'm disapproving Chief McKinley's recommendation he's
a fire chief and recommending Captain Pettis be dismissed from
(18:20):
the CPD. So don't put it on Cheryl Long. Shrel
Long messed up by just taking a piece of paper
and just signing it. You don't sign anything or concur
with anything until you read the fine print. And this
is where a counsel and everyone else instead of making
all these payoffs, even with Michael Washington, I give him
(18:42):
a shout out. People better start sitting back and reevaluating
the whole charter on the power of the city manager
because she is making a wreck of this entire city.
And how much money do the taxpayers have?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Well, it seems that and we got to run. But
it seems to me that her way of doing business
is to reach into the treasury and write write a
check in order to address an issue.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
And I will never ever solve anything.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Absolutely, Pastor, you're also a pastor. Leave us with before
we let you go, leave us with a good word
that we can we can think about during the course
of the day time.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
What a good word is out of the abundance of
the heart. The mouth speaks, and you have to be
careful what is in your heart. And so when you
see somebody today, don't judge them. Go into them, look
them in an eye, tell them you love them, tell
them God bless them. And won't you actually pray with them,
talk with them just for a moment. You might be
(19:45):
surprised what you both have in common.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Andre Ewing, great to meet you, my friend. Likewise, I
hope you get a chance to do this again.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yes, sir, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
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