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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Eighth five. Here fifty five KRC Detalk Station, A very
very happy Monday for you, despite of the fact we
don't get Brian James this morning Money Monday's Brian James
taking a day off. I am so pleased bring back
to the fifty five KRC Morning Show. Something I learned
from this man, Gary Walton, that we do have a
Cincinnati type in print museum, and it's way more than
the museum. Gary Walton, welcome back man. I understand you

(00:26):
got a big event going on this weekend. It's good
to have you back on the show.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Oh it's crazy to be back on the show. And
I do want to talk about the event. But the
most important thing I want to talk about is the
last time we were together, we were mentioning about how
we are training adults with disabilities. I'm happy to say
that we have three individuals who have done extremely well
and our goal in this coming January twenty twenty six
is placing them on a real job in the printing industry.

(00:53):
And this is just the beginning of many, many, many
adults of disability actually finding real work and be able
to make a living for their family. So that's the
first thing I want to tell you back, that's just
really exciting. We're having a great time with that, and
so that's crazy. But the second thing I'd like to
bring to your attention is December fourth, fifth, and sixth
at the Museum, totally free from ten am to three pm.

(01:16):
We're going to celebrate Charles Dickens the Christmas Carol and
make people were this book was really incredible. Up to
that time, nobody really celebrated Christmas. But when this book
comes out, all of a sudden, the whole Christmas tradition
starts generosity and then giving of gifts multiplied by a
factor of ten after this book's come out. So this

(01:37):
book is really important for our society and realizing where
we have come today and how we celebrate Christmas today
and so forth.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
You know, it's really interesting the concept that you just
brought up. Now, I think everyone's familiar with a Christmas Carol,
Charles Dickens book, you know, and if you aren't a
good person in life, and you don't, you know, take
advantage of your resources and help those in need, you're
going to eternal damnation. I was like, holy cow, I
didn't realize that was in store for me. So Dickens

(02:06):
applied sort of Christian principles about helping fellow man and
turn it into a it's not a consequence free environment.
You got some serious consequences headed your way. You don't
act that way. So did it transform Christmas in a
positive way in the sense that, oh, that's right, I'm
supposed to give to those in need, and you know,
tithe or do my fair share. Don't rely on the

(02:29):
state and its workhouses. No, you have to personally engage
in that conduct. But then coupling it with the idea
that you're going to be saddled with the chains and
the and the peril forever, really did an effective job
of marketing for charity.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yes, yes, absolutely. And when you come to the museum,
you're gonna actually print chapter five, what he called Stage
five of the Christmas Card, which is the best chapter.
I think it's the ending. Yeah, so you actually print
as any doom and I'll take that home with you.
You're gonna print Marley's speech that he gives about how
he should have been more involved with the community and
so forth. And then you also print some Christmas wrapping paper.

(03:06):
We got to press set up where you print this
big piece of Christmas wrapping paper. So it's a fun event.
They'll be cookies, beat and so forth, and just make
peopleware again of how important printing is to this city.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Printing. And this is what I learned from you, my friend,
because I was not aware that Cincinnati is like the
epicenter for the printing industry, an industry that is still flourishing.
And whether or not you're in those that he helped
out from the disabled category, there are jobs in the
printing industry. And I wasn't even aware of the need

(03:39):
for printing in the electronic or the electronics business with
these circuit board printing that you do. Yes, that was
an eye opener.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
We're actually working on getting a printing press out of
Denmark where you'll be able to come to the museum
and we'll be actually printing solar anals right there in
front of you, so you can take them home and
hook them up to electric wires and actually start collecting
solar energy for free.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
That's wild. So obviously in the future there's a special
kind of paper those have to be printed on it.
I presume you're not going to strow a piece of construction.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
No, no, just we're gonna be printing on a thin plastic,
but can literally printed on anything paper, plastic, would metal,
The substrate doesn't really matter. The important thing is the ink.
All the magic is in the ink, and the ink
is would have all the magic. And so that's why
we can actually print this on a traditional printing press.
These are not super duper modern presses. These are traditional presses.

(04:37):
So anybody in Cincinnati who has a printing press can
print electronic devices.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Now that is amazing. With the magic ink, that's amazing.
So the keys the ink. How about learn something else
today in the morning show. Since a type in print museum,
you're open throughout the year though, so visitors can make
arrangements to go. And I know you love to have
like tour groups with you, maybe senior groups or school
children groups of schoolture to come in and see the museum.

(05:02):
That can easily be arranged.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Correct, correct, And you do want to go on our
website and make an appointment because we have to get
things set up. But we now are official merit badge
for the Boy Scouts. You can learn your get your
graphic arts Merit bad but coming a museum in one day.
We do have homeschoolers lots of homeschoolers come and then
we try to where they are in their training, try

(05:24):
to bring the lesson that we're going to be teaching
that day towards what they're doing. So if they're into
writing books, you know, we'll actually print a book. If
they're into packaging, we'll actually have them create a package
and actually make the package themselves right there, So we
tailor make each tour for the group that's coming.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Fantastic, And I see that you have an internship program
there at the at the type of pri museum. Tell
my listeners about that, because I keep going back to
the whole idea that there are jobs out there that
don't involve a four year college degree and they're good
paying jobs and their career opportunities, and right there, you
have an intern ship program to help you achieve your
career goals. Correct.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
So the interim program that we have is for working
at the museum. However, starting next year, I'm going to
be working with a few of my printing bodies and
saying would you like to stay, and I know they're
going to jump at it, have an inter and come
work for you, because, like I said, there's a shortage
of graphic ards people, so I know they're going to
be up for it. So yes, we do this thing

(06:24):
now called walkings, where people can walk in after they
have the chores, say you know, I want to work
in the industry, and then we connect them up with
a company, and I try to connect them a company
close to where they live, because I don't believe they
should be traveling forever, and then get them place. And
so this year four individuals who walk in the door
are now working in the printing industry.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
That's all outstanding. Any possibility of working with vocational schools,
I know that seems to be a big push going
to vocate as opposed to traditional high schools. You can
go to one of like the Diamond Oaks or the
Scarlett Oakes types of schools they had when I was
a kid, and a lot of people chose that as
a career path. And we're working a long time before
I was because I went to a four year college.
But can you partner up with maybe that as like

(07:04):
a class course that high school kids could take.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Already done, already done. Dimonos and yes, both Dominoes and Carlos.
I've been to the museum, both of them have offered
that when they're ready to graduate in the spring of
twenty twenty six, that we'd helped get them jobs. So
and I'm good friends with the instructors of those two schools,
so yeah, that's you know, I taught printing for twenty
five years, so I have those connections with the education community,

(07:32):
but also with the business community, and so it just
all works out really well.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Fantastic. Now going back to I had two follow up questions.
When people show up this weekend for the Christmas themed
event in print chapter five of the Christmas Carol, which
printer are they going to be using? Guys, you have
a Gutenberg original type print press? Correct?

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yes, yes, so Marley's speech. They will that on the
wooden Gutenberg press, a replica of the of the fourteen
to fifty press. Then they'll go in the back room
and something called a show car press. They'll print the
wrapping paper and then all the book. The book. They
will actually print that on another type of a smaller

(08:18):
version of a show card press. But we will also
have the ability to show folks how type was actually created.
So they will be given these molds and using our
machine called the Ladlow and the inner type actually cash
from hot metal type that before the MACS invented, everything
was done with what we call hot type, which is

(08:39):
a molten lead and then cooled down to actually make
a type character.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Is that the little individual letters of the alphabet that
had to be stacked in a row in order to
concrete the create the plate that was used in the
printing press. I trying to get this a better understanding
of what you were talking about with this molten metal.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
So all the way back to fourteen fifty, Yuhungberg invents
mobile type. So you had individual individual letters, individual lets
that be put together, yeah, and then tied together so
they don't move. And then Upmartin Murgenthaler and William Ludlow said,
why are we casting one letter at a time, Why
don't we cast a line of type. So they made

(09:18):
machines that you put the moles all together just like
you're lining up the type. Now you're lining up the
molds and you cast one line of type. So if
you had a heading going across, that would be one
piece of metal that you'd cast. And the beauty Beauty
also is fresh brand new type so to print really
well when you're using foundry type attendens to wear down
a little bit and get old, and this is always

(09:39):
fresh type. So the printing quality is much better when
you're casting your own type.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Now rather than for demonstrative purposes and historical purposes like
what's going to happen when you're printing to Charles Dickens
Chapter five and the speech. Is that still a process
that's used today, because it sounds very labor intensive? Is
it still a very labor intensive process when I think
about modern printers? I mean I go back to dot
matrix and the current modern printers we have now it

(10:04):
just zips things out. So is there still a lot
of labor involved in the print industry.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yes, there's still a lot of labor, even though AI
has come into the printing industry, and so our presses
today have a lot of AI technology and robotic technology,
but you still need a human to run those machines.
There's still a lot of handwork. Once it's printed, things
have to be cut, folded, stapled, and so there's still

(10:30):
a lot of handwork on that. And then also the
Mac computer when it comes out and it makes it
available to anybody to create images. Now, you'd think it
would hurt the industry, but it did just the opposite.
Not everybody can create a green card, everybody can create
a newsletter. So the volume of printing has actually gone
up because of the computer. So we still and for

(10:51):
every press that's running, there's got to be at least
five computers feeding it with artwork and so forth, because
the press is the day are so fast. I mean
I just saw a video other day that I think
Heidelberg has won that's going twenty two thousand copies in
that hour. Oh that's just mind boggling. Yeah, I mean,
so they can really crank out the work really fast.
So we need more and more people creating the work

(11:13):
to feed these machines.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
And keep them going, and the program be pivoting over
to the other question. I have the program that you
have helped these three men with I suppose flack of
a better word, disabilities. They were autistic, correct.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
They're autistic men.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yes, So there are career opportunities for folks out there
who might think that there's not a career opportunity. I
have a friend who's on an autistic spectrum. He's been
working for a decade or more. I mean, he lives
by himself self, sufficient's got a good job. I mean
he's on a higher spectrum and the autism scale, but
definitely autistic he is. But I think it's so nice

(11:48):
to know that there are industries out there that in
spite of some struggles people may have, are still have
that they still have career opportunities.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Right. And the thing that I just love about these
three guys, they're the happiest people in the face the earth.
I mean, we go into work, they're smiling, They're always
thanking me for everything. It's just a joy. I didn't
realize going into this, and I would have so much
fun training them. I'm gonna be sad then they leave
the ogs with you. Except with that, I think fab

(12:15):
we're gonna keep on permanently. He's just he gives a
lot of the tours now and we just love that.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Not gonna let that.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
But the other I let that dad go. I love
him too much. So yes, so very very rewarding. What
I did, you know? Working at Cincinnati State, I trained
over three thousand, five hundred people and that was great.
But I find this way more rewarding to be helping
the young man have a fulfilling career.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah, going back to the point about Charles Dickens or
Christmas Carol. I think you're in the right wheelhouse there,
my friend.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yes, oh yes, yeah, think about that.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yes, uh huh. Try to put it all together. Gary. Now,
is that type of program continue throughout the year. Maybe
someone's out there going, oh, you know, my son, my daughter,
I think they'd be great at this, or are you
going to continue offering it is on a sporadic basis?

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Oh no, No, We're into educating the world and we're
into creating people to go in the printing industry twenty
four to seven. So anybody interested, give us a call,
we'll sit down with you. Definitely. This is an ongoing thing,
that is, and we're actually expanding. I'm hoping this year
to build building number three and Building number four to

(13:23):
give us more space to be able to do more training.
You know. So my goal is some day to be
able to have as many as forty individuals at one
time being trained for the printing industry.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Well to that end, there are opportunities for memberships and
opportunity to well maybe support them Cincinnati type in Print
Museum by maybe a little financial contribution this type of year,
go to Cincinnati Print or type Print Museum, Cincinnati, Typeprint
Museum dot org for all the details about the event

(13:52):
this week and all that they do throughout the year
to schedule deployment to do a tour that make it
really easy for you. There's a little request for him
you can fill out. Gary Walton Man. It's so great
hearing from you again, and thanks for continuing the historic
journey through the print industry and reminding my listeners it's
alive and well and there are career opportunities out there.
Keep up the great work. Gary. We'll have you again

(14:12):
on the program again soon, I hope.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Yes in January, when I tell you it's as story
of those two men.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yes, you already got an appointment here in the Morning Show.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Gary.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Hey, between now and then, if I don't see you
or hear from you, have a very merry Christmas, and
keep up the great work you and all the crew
at the Type in Print Museum

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