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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The talk station.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Eight thirty on this Wednesday morning, Dan Carroll in for
Brian Thomas. Brian is back tomorrow. Glad to be here,
Glad you are here as well, and always glad when
I get a chance to talk with Corey Bowman, the
man who would have been mayor should have been mayor,
and the man I like to call the man in
the arena, Cory Bowman. How you doing today?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Hey, good morning, Dan, Great to be on. I'm still
trying to be in the arena.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
You do what you can, my friend, and you're doing
You're doing great. How's everything at the church.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
It's going great.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
We are going to be celebrating our Father's Day Sunday
this week. We usually give a free gift to all
fathers coming in. And yes, it's gonna be a great
It's gonna be a great time.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
That is fantastic. Let me let me get your take
on the report that came out about racial disparity. I mean,
and Joe has got Joe put the whole report in
front of me today and I've got all what forty
five pages right here and campaign zero that we can
live in a world beyond policing. What is that when
(01:11):
you see that that notion that we can live in
a world beyond policing. What does that say to you?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I believe it's just you know, from my opinion, it
sounds like something my toddler would say if he didn't
if you want to play his video games all day.
You know, I've got an eight year old, a six
year old, a four year old, and a about one
year old, and you know they don't like the dad
(01:40):
policing that happens in the house, but it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
It's got to happen to create some order in the house.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
So the biggest thing I.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Would probably say about this report.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
We were actually at a roundtable yesterday with Thomaston, Warren
Davidson and several other representatives from public safety, which I
mean people on both sides. We were just kind of
talking and you know, there's there's a lot of different
things to consider when it comes of public safety, but
I think the ultimate thing is you got to get
(02:11):
criminals off the streets and you've got to support your
local policing. Obviously, there's things that need to happen to
create accountability. That's why we have accrediting when it comes
to the police force. The Ohio State Public Safety offers
a free accrediting to all state law enforcement officers or
all agencies, and then nationally you've got accreditation through KALIA
(02:36):
and other organizations as well. This accreditation helps keep accountability
and transparency a lot of the things that are included
in you know, things that in Cincinnati we say, like
the Collaborative Agreement and other things that prevent racial bias
and things that are happening this organization that came in
(02:56):
the first thing I did was look at the background
of it, because if somebody comes in says, hey, this
is what's happening, is there going to be political motives
to it? And when I looked at it, it says
that they're tied in with Black Lives Matter, which we've
seen in retrospect that the organizers of this organization they've
wasted donations on their own million dollar mansions and they
(03:17):
haven't put the money toward the community that they said
they represent. And I'll tell you this right now, pastoring
the inner city, inner city residents are very frustrated with
organizations like this. But then also looking at the motives
of the report, I mean, I would ask you if
the KKK came out with the report, and that report
(03:37):
said that all black people are criminals. How much credibility
would you give that report? And that's what I'm seeing
right now is there's a lot of bias, and if
they look for something, they're going to cherry pick a
lot of things in order to find whatever results they want.
I think that ultimately, the police, when it comes to accreditation,
(03:58):
when it comes to all the third party accounts ability
that they already have in place, obviously, always look at
those situations. Always look at those things to make sure
that your officers are adhering to that and making it better.
But I would be very hesitant to look at this
report and see it as a completely unbiased report.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah. I was talking to Ken Kober about this a
little while ago, and and he, like I, we're both
glad to see that. Apparently there doesn't seem much of
an appetite on behalf of city council to to bite
on this report, to take this and run with it
and talk about, hey, we need to you know, we
(04:37):
need to start having meetings, we got to have reforms,
we got to start firing people. Nothing like that has happened,
so thankfully, it appears Corey Bowman that that there's not
an overreaction to this, which I quite frankly find a
little refreshing that that has that he really has not developed.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah, and I think that that all said from where
the report came from, and if you go back to
the background of this organization, then you kind of realize, Hey,
there's a lot of bias to this. Doesn't mean that
we don't need to be accountable, doesn't mean that we
don't need to keep officers accountable toward issues such as this.
But this report itself, I think it's just falling flat
(05:19):
because of the background of where it's coming from.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Very good. I love that response, Corey Bowman, stay right there.
We got to get to a quick break and we'll
have more with Corey Bowman, the man in the arena
on the other side of this. On fifty five KRC,
the talk station Father's Day Weekend, Dad's shoot Station fifty
(05:42):
five KRC, the talk station eight forty on this Wednesday morning,
we are chatting with Corey Bowman, the man who would
have been mayor, and Corey Bowman. Cincinnati City Council is
going to take its final vote today on the budget
that includes two million dollars for the Farmer Music Center. Well,
I guess you're you're glad about that that we're we
(06:03):
found two million dollars to send to the new music
venue down there at Coney Island.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah, just trying to figure out where they found it from.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Still, you know, there's a lot of drawers down there
at City Hall and people stuff money in them. You know,
they look they you know, they they look in a
dword and say, oh, look at what's in here. They
found some money. It's amazing how that worked.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah. I mean, obviously, we ran a race for mayor
of Cincinnati and one of the biggest things that we
had to run on was the budget. And you know,
I'd like to tell people that when it comes to
whether it be personal finances, business find finances, nonprofit finances,
no budget is perfect. It's about reworking and making sure
that your principles and your priorities are first. And you know,
(06:52):
am I extremely mad that there's a music center going in,
or that they're considering new stadiums, or they're considering all
this new improvement to absolutely not. We love Cincinnati, it's
our home. But when it comes to the city budget,
the more that we dived into we realized that the.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Principles and the priorities need to be readjusted.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
What I mean by that is that when you look
at your let's say your family budget, and you're saying, hey,
we have the opportunity to go bungee jumping this Saturday,
but we won't have food on.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
The table for the next three days.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Well, yeah, it'd be nice to go bungee jumping, but
the kids need food for the next three days. So
your priorities is what keeps you in line and making
sure that you're not spending money in areas that you
shouldn't before you reach things like let's say infrastructure like roads,
like when it comes to making sure that the money
is going to the right places. With law enforcement and
(07:46):
the fire department, you know, we're still if the numbers
are still the same, we're at sixty four percent of
our fire trucks either need replaced or repaired. When it
comes to a lot of different equipment issues. When it
comes to our tactical teams with Cincinnati Police, we've seen
that they get denied for a lot of requests. So
(08:07):
these are just things that I feel like the priorities
of the budget need to be there first, and I
don't believe a lot of people at city Hall have
those priorities. Their priorities kind of lie in a lot
of other areas, whether it be with affordable housing or
whether it be with other things that I think that
your city services need to kind of be reprioritized.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, and I believe there's about a thirty million dollars
shortfall that the city has as well, and I don't
see that really being addressed in a meaningful way here.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah, You've got a lot of things that from a
long term perspective, we need to figure out.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
You know, let's look at the pension fund, let's look
at and then also the way that the railroad funds are.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Being spent is a full never debacle.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
There, because the thing is that everybody voted under the
guise of, hey, we have the capacity of using these
funds through the trust which they're investing.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
We get dividends from that, we're going to get payments
from the.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Interest on that to be able to spend to fix
our roads at a rapid pace. This was never meant
to be a shell game to where we use those
funds out instead of certain allocated funds for the budget.
And then also what we're seeing is that we don't
have the capacity to spend it. If you gave city
council one hundred and fifty million dollars a day in
(09:25):
say coads, they couldn't do it because they don't have
the capacity. They don't have the right contracts in place,
they don't have the right relationships in place. If you're
looking long term, you've got to set stuff like that
up to be able to be ready to take care
of your city properly. And that's not what's happening.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yeah, it certainly seems that way. Corey Bowman, tell me,
tell me again what events you have going on this
weekend for Father's Day.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Well, we simply just have our Father's Day Sunday, which.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
At ten thirty we start. We're at five oh three
Clark Street right in the shadow of TQL Stadium there,
and yeah, we have a gift for fathers and we started,
like I said, ten thirty. We go into prayer time
and worship and then go into the Word. We usually
get out about twelve thirty one o'clock and.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Gifts for every father.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
So we always always base it on the Word of God,
based on community. You know, the more and more that
I dive into politics, the more I realize the foundation
of my life of Jesus is more important than ever before.
And you know, when you have all these issues, a
lot of people just want to blame the government for everything,
but you know, the foundation of our hope is a
(10:35):
relationship with Jesus Christ. And I would, you know, want
to encourage anybody watching that that is something that will
dramatically improve your life in every area.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Corey Bowman, always great to have you on. Always appreciate
your message, and keep up the great work, my friend,
and we'll be talking again before too long.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Corey Bowman, thank you, Dan, thank you so much for
having me all.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Right, Corey Bowman. It's my way of thinking the man
who should have been mayor
The talk station.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Eight thirty on this Wednesday morning, Dan Carroll in for
Brian Thomas. Brian is back tomorrow. Glad to be here,
Glad you are here as well, and always glad when
I get a chance to talk with Corey Bowman, the
man who would have been mayor should have been mayor,
and the man I like to call the man in
the arena, Cory Bowman. How you doing today?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Hey, good morning, Dan, Great to be on. I'm still
trying to be in the arena.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
You do what you can, my friend, and you're doing
You're doing great. How's everything at the church.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
It's going great.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
We are going to be celebrating our Father's Day Sunday
this week. We usually give a free gift to all
fathers coming in. And yes, it's gonna be a great
It's gonna be a great time.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
That is fantastic. Let me let me get your take
on the report that came out about racial disparity. I mean,
and Joe has got Joe put the whole report in
front of me today and I've got all what forty
five pages right here and campaign zero that we can
live in a world beyond policing. What is that when
(01:11):
you see that that notion that we can live in
a world beyond policing. What does that say to you?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I believe it's just you know, from my opinion, it
sounds like something my toddler would say if he didn't
if you want to play his video games all day.
You know, I've got an eight year old, a six
year old, a four year old, and a about one
year old, and you know they don't like the dad
(01:40):
policing that happens in the house, but it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
It's got to happen to create some order in the house.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
So the biggest thing I.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Would probably say about this report.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
We were actually at a roundtable yesterday with Thomaston, Warren
Davidson and several other representatives from public safety, which I
mean people on both sides. We were just kind of
talking and you know, there's there's a lot of different
things to consider when it comes of public safety, but
I think the ultimate thing is you got to get
(02:11):
criminals off the streets and you've got to support your
local policing. Obviously, there's things that need to happen to
create accountability. That's why we have accrediting when it comes
to the police force. The Ohio State Public Safety offers
a free accrediting to all state law enforcement officers or
all agencies, and then nationally you've got accreditation through KALIA
(02:36):
and other organizations as well. This accreditation helps keep accountability
and transparency a lot of the things that are included
in you know, things that in Cincinnati we say, like
the Collaborative Agreement and other things that prevent racial bias
and things that are happening this organization that came in
(02:56):
the first thing I did was look at the background
of it, because if somebody comes in says, hey, this
is what's happening, is there going to be political motives
to it? And when I looked at it, it says
that they're tied in with Black Lives Matter, which we've
seen in retrospect that the organizers of this organization they've
wasted donations on their own million dollar mansions and they
(03:17):
haven't put the money toward the community that they said
they represent. And I'll tell you this right now, pastoring
the inner city, inner city residents are very frustrated with
organizations like this. But then also looking at the motives
of the report, I mean, I would ask you if
the KKK came out with the report, and that report
(03:37):
said that all black people are criminals. How much credibility
would you give that report? And that's what I'm seeing
right now is there's a lot of bias, and if
they look for something, they're going to cherry pick a
lot of things in order to find whatever results they want.
I think that ultimately, the police, when it comes to accreditation,
(03:58):
when it comes to all the third party accounts ability
that they already have in place, obviously, always look at
those situations. Always look at those things to make sure
that your officers are adhering to that and making it better.
But I would be very hesitant to look at this
report and see it as a completely unbiased report.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah. I was talking to Ken Kober about this a
little while ago, and and he, like I, we're both
glad to see that. Apparently there doesn't seem much of
an appetite on behalf of city council to to bite
on this report, to take this and run with it
and talk about, hey, we need to you know, we
(04:37):
need to start having meetings, we got to have reforms,
we got to start firing people. Nothing like that has happened,
so thankfully, it appears Corey Bowman that that there's not
an overreaction to this, which I quite frankly find a
little refreshing that that has that he really has not developed.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah, and I think that that all said from where
the report came from, and if you go back to
the background of this organization, then you kind of realize, Hey,
there's a lot of bias to this. Doesn't mean that
we don't need to be accountable, doesn't mean that we
don't need to keep officers accountable toward issues such as this.
But this report itself, I think it's just falling flat
(05:19):
because of the background of where it's coming from.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Very good. I love that response, Corey Bowman, stay right there.
We got to get to a quick break and we'll
have more with Corey Bowman, the man in the arena
on the other side of this. On fifty five KRC,
the talk station Father's Day Weekend, Dad's shoot Station fifty
(05:42):
five KRC, the talk station eight forty on this Wednesday morning,
we are chatting with Corey Bowman, the man who would
have been mayor, and Corey Bowman. Cincinnati City Council is
going to take its final vote today on the budget
that includes two million dollars for the Farmer Music Center. Well,
I guess you're you're glad about that that we're we
(06:03):
found two million dollars to send to the new music
venue down there at Coney Island.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah, just trying to figure out where they found it from.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Still, you know, there's a lot of drawers down there
at City Hall and people stuff money in them. You know,
they look they you know, they they look in a
dword and say, oh, look at what's in here. They
found some money. It's amazing how that worked.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah. I mean, obviously, we ran a race for mayor
of Cincinnati and one of the biggest things that we
had to run on was the budget. And you know,
I'd like to tell people that when it comes to
whether it be personal finances, business find finances, nonprofit finances,
no budget is perfect. It's about reworking and making sure
that your principles and your priorities are first. And you know,
(06:52):
am I extremely mad that there's a music center going in,
or that they're considering new stadiums, or they're considering all
this new improvement to absolutely not. We love Cincinnati, it's
our home. But when it comes to the city budget,
the more that we dived into we realized that the.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Principles and the priorities need to be readjusted.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
What I mean by that is that when you look
at your let's say your family budget, and you're saying, hey,
we have the opportunity to go bungee jumping this Saturday,
but we won't have food on.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
The table for the next three days.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Well, yeah, it'd be nice to go bungee jumping, but
the kids need food for the next three days. So
your priorities is what keeps you in line and making
sure that you're not spending money in areas that you
shouldn't before you reach things like let's say infrastructure like roads,
like when it comes to making sure that the money
is going to the right places. With law enforcement and
(07:46):
the fire department, you know, we're still if the numbers
are still the same, we're at sixty four percent of
our fire trucks either need replaced or repaired. When it
comes to a lot of different equipment issues. When it
comes to our tactical teams with Cincinnati Police, we've seen
that they get denied for a lot of requests. So
(08:07):
these are just things that I feel like the priorities
of the budget need to be there first, and I
don't believe a lot of people at city Hall have
those priorities. Their priorities kind of lie in a lot
of other areas, whether it be with affordable housing or
whether it be with other things that I think that
your city services need to kind of be reprioritized.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, and I believe there's about a thirty million dollars
shortfall that the city has as well, and I don't
see that really being addressed in a meaningful way here.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah, You've got a lot of things that from a
long term perspective, we need to figure out.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
You know, let's look at the pension fund, let's look
at and then also the way that the railroad funds are.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Being spent is a full never debacle.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
There, because the thing is that everybody voted under the
guise of, hey, we have the capacity of using these
funds through the trust which they're investing.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
We get dividends from that, we're going to get payments
from the.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Interest on that to be able to spend to fix
our roads at a rapid pace. This was never meant
to be a shell game to where we use those
funds out instead of certain allocated funds for the budget.
And then also what we're seeing is that we don't
have the capacity to spend it. If you gave city
council one hundred and fifty million dollars a day in
(09:25):
say coads, they couldn't do it because they don't have
the capacity. They don't have the right contracts in place,
they don't have the right relationships in place. If you're
looking long term, you've got to set stuff like that
up to be able to be ready to take care
of your city properly. And that's not what's happening.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yeah, it certainly seems that way. Corey Bowman, tell me,
tell me again what events you have going on this
weekend for Father's Day.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Well, we simply just have our Father's Day Sunday, which.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
At ten thirty we start. We're at five oh three
Clark Street right in the shadow of TQL Stadium there,
and yeah, we have a gift for fathers and we started,
like I said, ten thirty. We go into prayer time
and worship and then go into the Word. We usually
get out about twelve thirty one o'clock and.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Gifts for every father.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
So we always always base it on the Word of God,
based on community. You know, the more and more that
I dive into politics, the more I realize the foundation
of my life of Jesus is more important than ever before.
And you know, when you have all these issues, a
lot of people just want to blame the government for everything,
but you know, the foundation of our hope is a
(10:35):
relationship with Jesus Christ. And I would, you know, want
to encourage anybody watching that that is something that will
dramatically improve your life in every area.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Corey Bowman, always great to have you on. Always appreciate
your message, and keep up the great work, my friend,
and we'll be talking again before too long.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Corey Bowman, thank you, Dan, thank you so much for
having me all.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Right, Corey Bowman. It's my way of thinking the man
who should have been mayor
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