Congressman Massie joined Brian this morning

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morning and I see Congressman Thomas Massy, followed by Judge Annapolitana.

(00:24):
Welcome back, Congressman MASSI it's always a distinct pleasure to
have you on my program.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Oh, it's great to be on your program.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Well, I know you want to talk about national debt
and continuing continuing resolutions and elect You have to ask
you at the outset, considering we are going to be
hearing from Judgment Poltano, not necessarily on this topic, but
I am going to approach the subject with him. Obviously,
Iran launched missiles at Israel. Now there's all this talk
about whether Israel is going to basically enter into a
you know, a shooting war with the Iranians, go after

(00:52):
the nuclear bases, whatever, whatever the military strategy happens to be.
But Iran did go after Israel directly. So if the
United States were to somehow become a part of this
shooting war, would they not need maybe a declaration of
war or an authorization at least an authorization for use
of military force. Are they going to dust that one
off from back in ninety one?

Speaker 2 (01:12):
What are we playing t ball here?

Speaker 3 (01:14):
This?

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yes we are.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Okay, I'm going to hit that one on. I know
you will listen.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
The administration said, and this is Sullivan. He said, We've
made it clear there will be consequences, severe consequences for
this attack on Israel, and we will work with Israel
to make that case.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
What the heck work with Israel? Excuse me?

Speaker 3 (01:37):
The Constitution requires the administration to work with Congress. Yeah, like,
you can't just launch an attack on a sovereign country.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
That's an act of war.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Now, some people say, oh, well, they can do whatever
they want as long as they don't declare war. No,
that's an act of war. And we haven't been attacked there.
You know, there are accommodation in the nineteen seventy three
War Powers Act to respond to a direct attack on
America if they can't get a hold of Congress in
that period of time.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
But there is no And some people wonder if that's
even concert.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
I know I was going to interject, but go ahead,
I need to cover it.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
I'm in the same spot there on that one, and
probably judge to Politano is well, but.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
We're of like mind on this subject matter.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
But let's say you go along with the premise of
the seventy three or seventy four War Powers Act. It's
even that acknowledges you can't respond to this with an
act of war from the United States. So, and here's
the thing. Congress is on recess right now. Everybody knows
Congress gets an August recess. I'm about to tell you

(02:45):
a dirty little secret. Every other year we get an
August recess and an October recess.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
And we're not supposed to call it recess.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
We're supposed to call it district work period. Let's face it,
it's October recess. And the reason you get it every
other year is the incumbents don't want to be stuck
in Washington, DC while the challengers.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Are running against them in the election.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
True, so it's part of the incumbent protection package that
everybody gets in Washington, DC.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
As you get October off to go campaign. And of
course we still get paid for October.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Well, I mean having even on our books whether or
not it's constitutional that War Powers Act allows us to
immediately respond to attack on us. Doesn't that sort of
support exactly what Israel's doing, which is defending itself immediately
when they get attacked. I mean that you're supposed to
be able to do that.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Right, They're able to do that, and they need to
judge whether or not they need to get into some
kind of diplomacy with their neighbors. I mean, but here's
the thing. We don't need to be sending soldiers over there.
We don't need to be launching an attack on a
sovereign country if we're not attacked, and we don't need

(03:58):
to be spending money over there either. We're co combatants
honestly right now in a war with Russia from Ukraine.
If any other country, for instance, had supported let's say
al Qaeda to the extent, well, al Qaeda is not
a good example, but I'll use it. If any other
country supported a country that attacks the United States, we

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would call them co combatants, and we are by that measure.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
We are co combatants right now in a war with Russia.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yes we are.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
And we should not become co combatants in a war
with Iran, either through financial and military support or through
boots on the ground.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Fair enough, and that idea of funding leads us over
to the national debt and the continuing resolutions. You had
a brilliant plan to deal with this, which is due
a one year continuing resolution which would result in an
automatic one percent across the board cut com April. I
thought it was a brilliant strategy. Obviously they didn't go
down that road.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Yeah, it's not only a strategy, it's signed into lawaw Yes, Yeah,
I got them to put in law that if we
go past April thirtieth with the CR and I got
them put that in last year when they weren't thinking
about this year, then you get a one percent cut
to every discretionary program in the United States. So instead
of having a shutdown fight, you have a cut down fight,

(05:17):
a one percent cut down fight. On April thirtieth, well,
the Speaker of the House proposed, no, let's go to
March thirty.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Right.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
The reason they chose March is they didn't want to
go past the Massy cut and his little clever little thing.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
They do this every year, Brian.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
They were going to attach this bright shiny object to
get conservatives excited so they could get their hands dirty
and vote for this thing, and then they were going
to take the bright shiny object off. The bright shiny
object was something called the Save Act. And I've voted
for the Save Act. By the way, the House has
already voted for the Save Act. It's sitting over the Senate.
It keeps illegals from registering to vote and voting. It's

(05:56):
got strict penalties if they tried to vote. Okay, well,
it's already illegal form to vote. But this is sort
of a belts and suspender's approach and nothing wrong with it.
But they were going to attach that to the cr
which is all twelve appropriations bills and one steaming pile
of pooh. They were going to attach it to that
and make the steaming pile of pooh a good pile

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of pooh. Well, the problem is they had no intention
to ever fight. And I called him out on it
about a month ago in a speech in Congress, and
I said, I refuse to be a Thespian in this
failure theater because they planned to fail, and there were
even conservatives going along with this plan that knew it
was going to fail. They there are rumors that Mike

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Johnson had already told the senators, the Republican senators, that
they could strip off the Save Act when it got
over there, and that was their plan all along. I
called him out on it. They still tried to snap
the ball and run the play. But after I had
called him out on it enough, other Republicans joined me
to say, we're not going to be actors in.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
This political theater.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
And so that failed, and then what happened is exactly
what I predicted would happen. By the way, Elon Musk
retweeted or reposted my speech calling this all theater in
my predictions, and he said, I hope you're not right.
So to respond to Elon Musk, I went to Grok,
which is his AI system, and I said, is Thomas

(07:25):
Massey Wright about to Save Act on the CR? And
Grok gives like a five paragraph dissertation on why Thomas
Massey is probably going to be right about this theater,
and so I put that on my reply to Elon. Well,
at what's happened, As I turned out to be right,
We got a clean CR. By the way that I

(07:45):
made another prediction that it would end right before Christmas,
that it wouldn't go till next spring because we've talked
about this.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
On your show, Brian.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
For as long as I've been coming on your show,
which is at least twelve years.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Every year, every year, every year.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
They do the same play Christmas, Christmas, Christmas Eves, shut
Down Panic because here's what they're doing. They're taking our
famili's hostage, the hot of the families of congressmen congressmen
in Washington, d C. On December twentieth, which is when
this CR expires, and they're gonna either put another worst

(08:20):
CR that's probably gonna have Ukraine and everything else attached
to it, or they're gonna do the full on omnibus,
depending on how the election comes out. They're gonna do
that on December twentieth, and the Congressmen they're gonna smell
that those jet fumes from DCA, the Ronald BrigGen Airport
and the combination of the fumes from those airplanes wafting

(08:41):
over to the Capitol and this CR expiring, then they're
gonna start chanting vote, vote, vote, and they will vote
for anything you put in front of them, because the
speaker always comes and says, doesn't matter who the speaker is,
they always say, if you vote for this, you can
go home and open presence with your family, and if
you don't vote for this, we're going to be here

(09:02):
over Christmas because the optics are bad. And just go
ahead and tell your families pack up those presents and
bring in Washington, d C.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
If they want to be with you at Christmas.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
No, nobody's going to bring their family to DC over Christmas.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
So there, you're basically they're like the Grinch.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah. Well, when I read that, the first person I
thought it was you. I saw that. Oh no, late
December cut off that. You gotta be kidding me. This
is so obvious. It's a setup for the inevitable.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Some people call me, yeah, some people call me no
stratomis for predicting this.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
But the reality is, Brian, we could go back.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
It's a lot of work. God, yeah, we could go
back on your radio show. We could find clips of
me predicting this every year. It's not a prediction, it's
just how the swamp works and the uniparty works.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
And guess what, They'll have twelve spending bills to do
next year with the deadline in the fall, and they
know that now, but they'll kick it around until late
September and then push back for a cr.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Listen, Congress being surprised by the fiscal deadline of September
thirtieth is like a florist being surprised by Valentine's Day.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
It happens every year. Prepare for it.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Read for it. College will bring Congressmanassy back. Apparently he
has some insight into the Fed's role in January sixth,
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Speaker 1 (11:23):
Thomas with Nostra Thomas. That'd be Congressman Thomas. I just
love that. That is so funny. Anyway, probably not funny,
but here's the information, or provide the information of my
listeners and me. Congressman Massy, what were the Fed's role
in the January sixth drunken fraternity party?

Speaker 3 (11:41):
Huh, Well, there were a lot of FEDS there on
January sixth, and they and they're call them confidential human sources.
I think we should call some of them agent provocateurs.
The Inspector General Horwitz, we had him in front of
our Judiciary Committee, and I asked him when this report
was going to come out, because it was three and
a half years ago. He announced he was going to

(12:03):
do a report on the DOJ slash FBI's role at
January six preparing for it, and the day of it's
been three and a half years. It's become obvious they
are slow walking this whole report until after the election.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
He admitted as much in the questioning.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
And if you know, I didn't say this in the hearing,
but I'm going to say this now. I think they're
probably about two hundred Feds there on January sixth.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Oh my word.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Well, there's two ways to get at that estimate. Representative
Clay Higgins agrees with me. He got to that estimate
from a different direction there. You know, there's a lot
of trials, a lot of cases where people are being
tried and put in prison for protesting that day and
maybe going into the Capitol. Well in their sealed cases,
but you can know some of this stuff sort of

(12:51):
in each little vignette they have to disclose how many
of those people were Feds. Well, you can take, let's say,
if there's an incident that involves the people, and three
of them are FEDS. You can extrapolate from the entire
crowd to get to two hundred people.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Right.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
The other way you get to a large number is
every every field office, every FBI field office in the
United States had people in chat rooms in every region
of the country trying to infiltrate and in some cases,
like if you follow what happened with the Governor Whitmer kidnapping,
fed napping, let's call it, where they there were more

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there were more FBI people than there were actual you know.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Defendants, like engaging in entrapment effort correct entrapment.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Half of the people in the Governor Whitmer case got
off for entrapment, and I think that should be that
should be of defense for some of these people in
January sixth, But every field office had people already in
you know, November, December working on.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
This, and they sent those people to DC. So every
field office sent somebody.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
So this was a core ordinated effort to create the
response that they obviously got. That's what they wanted to happen.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
I believe so. And then here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
I was trying to get Inspector General in the hearing
to admit that his report is going to show there
are quite a few of these folks. And so one
of the questions I asked him was what's the total
amount of travel reimbursement for these informants.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
That showed up?

Speaker 3 (14:26):
Now the answer I think he was a little off
guard when I asked that.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
He said, I don't know the exact number. I don't.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah, but yes, there was reimbursements that I just don't
have to figure with.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Right.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
So for him to admit there were travel reimbursements for
those people tells you two things. Number one, they were there, yes,
But number two, the defense that some people have put
out there that oh, of course there were informants, but
they were turned after the event, like after the event
in order to do a plea deal, they became informants, right,

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But no, you don't if you're paying their travel to
get there.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
These are not people that did a plea deal, a.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Plea bargain, uh pre existing relationship.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Yes they were. They were full in the employee of
the government. Now the question is is who is slow
walking this thing until after the election. And you know,
I believe that Attorney General Garland has a hand in
this and I'm gonna you know, we're we're pushing him.
There's no there's no way they're going to release this

(15:32):
before the election. Yet, you know, I know certain things,
and I tried to elucidate that in this hearing, UH
to get it in a formal setting, and people are
starting to see that that's what's that's what's going on now.
If Kamala wins the election, I don't know if this
report ever comes.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Out, I don't think we'll see it'll ever see the
light of day if that scenario unfolds.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
And by the way, why does why do Inspectors General?
They're about I think they are about sixty of them.
There's one for every department. There's one for the Post office,
for instance. We're trying to get one for Ukraine, but
there was one for Afghanistan. Why do they do these
reports so you can learn and you can do things
differently next time. But I pointed out to Inspector General Horwitz,

(16:17):
it's one inauguration ago. It's been four years, and he's
not even going to have this out before the election,
and possibly not before the inauguration. So even in the
most benign a charitable interpretation of what the FEDS were doing.
They messed up, and we need to know how to
do something better because you could have something similar going
on this next January.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Well, it's coming chain.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
You're responsible to hold them accountable. You're a representative, you're
one of the people's representatives, and that they refuse to
give information to the people who are responsible for oversight
is just to me baffling angering. I don't know what
FCC compliant way I can put it, pretty damn frustrating.
And it happens time and time again. And the other
component of this was like the attempted assassination hearings. You're

(17:03):
talking with someone who's got information. He has information. I'm sorry,
but it's just not in a final report yet. Well,
how about just giving us what you got subject to
revision when the damn report comes out.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
I just m he says.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
He says he's still waiting to see what can be
declassified and what can't. But the reality is probably he
already knows ninety five percent of his report can be
published in its form, So we should get that information now,
but we're not getting.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
It well for obvious political reasons.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
I will conclude, and here's the answer. Here's here's how
you would cut through all of this. We have the
power of the purse.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
I have said time and again, if we would just
withhold funding for one toner cartridge at the FBI, if
one of their copiers went down because we cut the
funding for that copier, they would come to heal. But
instead we're building a brand new building. Why would they
answer us if we if we just keep funding them
and they can with impunity, you know thumb their no.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yep, there's no repercussions. Why would they give you the
information if it's bad for their political side of the
Ledger Congressman Thomas Massey judging and A Polton is probably
listening right now. Joe gave me advance notices.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
You be on.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
You know he's a big fan of yours. I know
you're a big fan of his. He'll be on next.
Thank you so much for what you do.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
Hey, thanks to the judge. Look forward to him coming on.
I am going to do a tea party meeting tonight
and I'm going to a place called Bob's Service Center.
These people in Florence, Kentucky today just I'm visiting a
little business.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
It's going to be fun. They've been in business forever.
They're in Florence.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Well, I hope you have a nice time there and
give them all my best and all right, what is
it again, Master Thomas Nostra, Thomas Noster, Thomas, Well, there's
two ways of slicing it on that one until we
talk again. It's been great talking. Keep up the great work,
my friend. All right, thanks Brian folks, stick around, Judge
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