Congressman Wenstrup talks with Brian Thomas this morning

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Speaker 1 (01:01):
It's six thirty two fift about Kersey Talk station. Hey,
let's turn an hour into an hour and a half.
Congress And brad Winstroup former, I guess I have to
say now he's listening to me on the program this morning,
kept saying he was going to be in the studio.
So it's former, although you can still call him congressman,
just like you call a retired colonel colonel. And we'll
hear from lieutenant colonel retired Daniel Davis at eight thirty

(01:24):
Congressman brad Winstrup, retired colonel colonel.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
Yeah, that's right. Good to have you in the studio,
my friend. Always a real pleasure. I left early this morning,
you know, thinking armageddon, but we did clear some roads
around here. Yes, it's funny. One of the other congressmen
is from Minnesota that I talk with a lot and
actually room with. And he put out a picture of
the snow and he goes in Minnesota, we call this Monday, right.

(01:54):
I know, it's great. And you know they have a
well owed machine for snow removal in in areas where
they get regular snow. I mean, people were very critical
of the snow removal here in the Greater Cincinnati area,
and some areas better than others. I know.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
A former Anderson Township trustee, Drew Pappas, was touting how
wonderful the roads were over yesterday, But as soon as
you hit the city limits, of course, you drove into
a foot tall wall of snow. That's difference between administrations.
I suppose you can draw your own conclusions on that.
But you know, we're not used to this kind of snow.

(02:29):
And the snow I mean, as I was observing yesterday
coming in Montgomery, Road had been plowed at some point,
but by the time I got on it a quarter
to three in the morning, three or four more inches
of snow had fallen since they first plowed it.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
There's only so much you can do. There's so many
roads to cover. You've got a roll with it, you know.
I shoveled the driveway and three times the next day
like did I and sulted forget it? Yeah, I saw
it didn't work. I saw my neighbor putting it down,
and for I was really like, damn it. I really
wish I had bought myself one of those five gallon
drum of the and we shoveled the driveway. My son

(03:04):
and me, and then I got up and Jerry had
shoveled it before I got home from work yesterday, and
then he and I shoveled the driveway again with you'd
get the additional three or four inches that had fallen.
So three times over the course of basically twenty four hours,
the driveway had to be shoveled manually, I might add,
for those folks with snowblowers. And I looked over at

(03:24):
his driveway. That stuff didn't do anything, and my envy
immediately disagrees, like, well, I guess I saved myself twenty
or twenty five bucks by not buying it. Anyway, we
are going to just as a little tease, let you know,
Congressman Winster, but I are going to be diving on into,
among other things, the COVID nineteen report, as well as

(03:44):
the Democrats version of the COVID nineteen report substantially different
in terms of well their focus as well as the
number of pages and level of detail.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
But plague update. We are going to be talking about
bird flu. And I asked Congress from Winstrip I had
an article on bird flu. I said, is this going
to be a problem? And a grave look crossed his face.
So there may be something to this bird flu thing.
We'll be talking about that as well, So don't go away.
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Speaker 1 (06:21):
Six forty fifty five KRC detalk station. A very very
happy Tuesday. Hope you can join the listener lunch High
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eleven thirty. And yes, Congressman winscherp you are invited if
you can make it. But I understand I'm not putting
you on the spot. He is in studio, retired now
enjoying civilian life. I guess sort of kind of maybe

(06:41):
not trying to find a job. Okay, yeah, he's unemployed. Anyhow,
don't feel sorry for brad Winstrop. We're working on that.
We were talking about over the break before we get
to the COVID thing. You did express some measure of
concern that this sort of a growing problem with bird flu.

(07:04):
Millions of chickens have been slaughtered. It's obviously exists in
the wild bird population as well. There have been human
cases of folks that have contracted this bird flu. I
don't know that they've ever definitively determined that human to
human exposure is possible, But we can sort of see
the riding on the wall.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
Has it been you let my listeners know. Well, the
first I'm just reading right here, thirteen hours ago. First
US bird flu death is announced in Louisiana and Brian.
That's death.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
But I'm talking about like human to human if I
breathe on you, like COVID, you're gonna get it kind
of thing. Yeah, that I don't Yeah, I don't think
it's been coming from him.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
I will tell you, you know, as part of the
Pandemic subcommittee. Yeah, well yeah, I went to Cambodian laos.
We went to the wet markets. I mean, and you
got people dressed like their landing on the moon, swabbing
the birds orally rectillly look, you know, doing surveillance on
for viruses. Really yeah, you know, it's just too much

(08:05):
a part of their culture. You're not going to get
rid of these things. I mean, you don't have you
I'm surprised. I'm surprised.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
I mean, they have the wet markets, and that's part
of their culture. They're not going to go away. But
I'm surprised they have the the hazmat suit guys going
around even inspecting the web areas.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
We're helping with that, the United States USA I D
is helping with that, and they don't have Okay, yeah,
they don't have enough.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Did that make it into the Festivus report from Senator
rant Paul That might have Listen, man, we can disagree
on the propriety of US paying to do their work,
but go ahead.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
Well, the idea is one it's a little bit of
a diplomatic tool because obviously they've huge Chinese influence in
those countries. They don't even talk about COVID when we
went there, don't even want to talk about it, and
for a variety of reasons. For maybe for the same
reason the Biden administration didn't really want to talk about

(08:58):
it at least the origins, right, but they're concerned. They're
very grateful for this help because we're training people to
be able to do this work on their own. But
while we were there, there was an eleven year old
girl who died from this a rural and so able
to quarantine the area. Pretty well, let me say that

(09:18):
you mean the bird flow, yes, yes, and able to
quarantine the area pretty well, but sadly, you know, she
passed away. But you obviously the first thing you want
to do is prevent any further spread, and so learning
more about it. But it was interesting because I happened
to be talking to Robert Redfield yesterday, who was Trump's
CDC director, who was basically pushed aside during COVID by Fauci.

(09:44):
And we'll get into what the future holds for what
we should be doing. Is he's working on treatments. You know,
you talk about monoclonal antibodies, anti virals, those are the
types of things. Because what we learned, and what was
really relatively ignored, especially by the left, was that the

(10:05):
vaccine that we developed for COVID, I think it saved
a lot of lives, but I was in favor of
it for the people that were dying from COVID, yeah,
and and nots Yeah. Yeah, you knew who was dying
from it, and so that's that was the priority, but
not forcing it on everyone who doesn't didn't seem vulnerable
to death anyway. But besides that, we knew that you

(10:28):
could still get COVID with with this vaccine, and I
think the as you're investing in vaccines, which doctor Redfield
said that the Biden administration is putting more into vaccine
production for avian flu or bird flu. Uh, they're working,

(10:48):
they're working on treatments, right, and so we needed that more.
And I said that early on, we need to be
focusing on treatments like anti virals and monoclonal antibodies rather
than and just this type this type of a vaccine.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah, the whole discussion of vaccines has really been turned
on its head because of the COVID nineteen mr NA
type of vaccine.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
Correct it is? I mean, I know there are conspiracy
theories out there, there are legitimate studies out there, There's
all kinds of stuff, but it's you know, you got
RFK Junior now out there saying, you know, Nick's no vaccines.
And I've got listeners in my listening audience that think,
you know, getting a polio vaccine is a bad idea. Now,
now I'm glad we had a polio vaccine because I

(11:32):
didn't end up in an iron lung.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
You know, it worked.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
We've eradicated polio thanks to vaccines. So you know, I'm
not a no vaccine guy.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
But these new mRNA type deals, and especially since it
didn't help, I mean, you just got done pointing out
he didn't stop you from getting it, It didn't stop
you from spreading it. It may have reduced, you know,
the severity of the illness, but in the final analysis,
you get sticking something in your body that it didn't
go through clinical trials expedited. The pharmaceutical company got an

(12:04):
emergency use authorization, which frees them from any liability associated
with all of the multitude of problems that have since
surfaced because the entire planet served as one giant testing event, right,
basically real quick go ahead.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
Would the FDA have approved the COVID nineteen vaccine knowing
what we know now if they tried to bring it
to market, I'll make it even worse for you.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Okay, good?

Speaker 4 (12:33):
There was political well, we discovered there was political pressure
to move up the full FDA approval of the COVID
nineteen vaccine to where two people in the FDA left
resigned from the FDA overconcerned over concerns that this is
being sped up. And it was being sped up. And

(12:56):
if you notice, it was the military who just waited,
waited because the Secretary Austin Secretary of Austin was getting
a lot. He wanted to put that mandate in right away,
and people said, well, it's not even been fully FDA approved.
So political pressure came in and moved it up by months,

(13:16):
and that's why people resigned from the FDA. They did that.
The next day he came out with the mandate. All right, pause,
because I know my listeners are just screaming at the
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Speaker 1 (13:30):
Why how did this become political? I'm gonna ask that question.
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Sixty two fifty five here see the talk station. Brian
Thomas in studio Congressman former retired brad Winstrip. All right,
the burning question you summarized that you pointed out they
rushed the COVID nineteen vaccine. In fact, people quit the
FDA because of concerns over rushing it too and.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
Making people take it too soon. We didn't test it enough.
We're worried about it. What might the consequences be? But
political forces came to bear and they advanced it and
pushed it out too soon. How did this become political
and why would this such urgency to get this vaccine
now when they had no idea whether or not it

(16:25):
was going to be harmful to humanity. Yeah, it's it's
it's really bizarre in that way, Brian, And you're exactly right.
I mean, emergency use was put out and it was
restricted to who should get the vaccine. I mean, I
think Operation work Speed was successful, but people weren't honest
for what had been created. You know, you'd hear these

(16:46):
peel this is safe and effective. You don't know that,
you know, you know, out of those words when the
vaccine has not gone through proper clinical trials. Wear it.
It went through, It went through good clinical trials, but
what it proved was it's not one hundred percent safe
and effective. And that's what people heard, right, people heard,
you know, oh, this thing is safe and effective. I

(17:06):
went through this with the ranking member Democrat ranking member
who was a physician, and I said, you shouldn't say
that because people here one hundred percent and it's not
because we know from the trials, people still got COVID,
they were less likely to be hospitalized, they were less
likely to die, So let's use it for the most vulnerable.
We didn't go out and protect the most vulnerable. All

(17:27):
of a sudden, it's like we're pushing this on everybody.
That didn't make any sense, and so emergency use was
one thing. But the Biden administration wanted to just get
it out there. They put pressure on the FDA to
speed it up, speed it up, fully approve it. Why
I don't know, because they wanted to push it out.

(17:48):
Like the Secretary of Defense, General Austin, he was waiting,
just waiting, and the public pressure saying well, you shouldn't
put it out is a mandate. He's the American military
fighting force was pushing to hurry up and inject all
of our fighting force. And what happens? I mean, think
about it. If there was something far more devastating associated

(18:10):
with the COVID nineteen vaccine that we only learned six, eight,
ten months after the fact, our entire fighting force could
have been potentially wiped out. Why because they wanted to
rush and hurry up and oculate everyone. That doesn't make
any sense to me. Well, these look our fighting force
are healthy. People are the least likely to succomb and COVID.
I mean, for most people. I had a terrible battle

(18:32):
that we had it for six weeks. I was miserable.
It sucked. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.
And I think it's because I just got to know
with my last cancer treatment, my immune system was knocked out.
That's exactly right. I was co morbid condition at the time.
But most of the children who got it it was
like getting a cold, common cold. No one of the
vast majority people who got COVID died from it. It

(18:54):
was the very, very sick, the co morbid conditioned folks.
So why rush it out? It doesn't make sense to me.
Now I'm pushing it on children, And fortunately our pediatrician
for my kids said, I don't see where the benefits
outweigh the risk. And as I was talking to doctor
Redfield just yesterday, former CDC director, he said, there's a

(19:18):
large number of vaccine injuries out there and they haven't
been processed and bedded. You know, you don't have the
cardiomyopathy kind of stuff from the other all variety of things. Brian,
you know, we saw I mean, there was a member
of Congress and she said that from her vaccines. As
a child, she got gian Bray syndrome. You know, she

(19:39):
most people it goes away, but you know, she had that.
She had those concerns, but she did get vaccinated after
talking to her doctor. She had a choice. So she
was probably vulnerable with other medical conditions that the doctor said,
I think you should the benefits out where they're in

(20:00):
with our kids and with our military.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
No one knew.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
No one knew they they weren't they weren't vulnerable. I
was told that I needed a booster to go to Germany.
I had two doses of Pfizer and I got COVID later.
The only reason I knew I got COVID is because
I couldn't smell garlic salt. And so when they told
me I needed a booster, I said, let's check my
antibodies and tea cells. Well on the Capitol Hill, they said, oh,
we don't, we can't do tea cells. I said, okay,

(20:25):
it's check my antibodies. A strong number was forty. My
number was eight hundred and twenty one. No doctor's gonna
and I survived. And I survived COVID right didn't even
know I had it.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Well, And that's the other thing. Follow up T cell
check from me. They it was off the charts. I
mean it was like ten thousand or twelve thousand. I
mean I had more T cells that had fought off
COVID after I had a naturally occurring about of the
COVID nineteen experience. My body has a natural immunity, which
is duh, kind of the way God created us. Will

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Speaker 1 (21:47):
Well we started early, but early is better when you're
talking about the origins of COVID nineteen. With Congressman Brad
Winster now retired, he's out looking for a job. So
if you see him hanging out the home depot, be
sure and pick him up.

Speaker 4 (21:59):
He needs he needs to.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Work anyhow, Congressan Winstrip, It's been a pleasure having you
in here. We've been talking about We started with a
little bird flu, which you said does represent a bit
of a problem and could be a concern for us
as we move forward, of course, on the heels of
COVID nineteen, which is fresh in everyone's recollection. You discussed
specifically the rush to get that vaccine out before it

(22:24):
had been, in my opinion, adequately tested. The idea that
the folks in the America's military were anxious to hurriedly
bring it out and inject our military forces early. That
raised so many red flags for me. We talked about
the idea that you know, American military forces and the
age group that they're in along with children, and the

(22:46):
vast majority of humanity was not really debilitated by getting
COVID nineteen. It was like going through the flu. Yes,
there are people who got bad cases of it, but
this rush to get it out it became politicized, and
so our conversation moved over to how did this become politicized?

(23:07):
The old idea of COVID nineteen and what started in nature.
It started the Wuhan Institute of Virology. It became verboten
topic online. It was removed from social media. If you
talked about this starting from the Wuhan Institute of Technology
and a Virology and I don't understand why, what big

(23:29):
difference is there if we talk about it point we
were working with the Chinese. You want to call it
gain a Function research or you want to call it
widget research. We're there, We're at the Institute of Virology,
American scientists. We are funding it with money.

Speaker 4 (23:49):
That is a fact, Jack, How did that become a
verboten topic of conversation to even talk about it when
everyone sort of found, you know, figured out pretty quickly
early on that we have a physical presence there. This
isn't like some secret Chinese lab like the Iranians building

(24:10):
nuclear weapons underground. Man, we know they're over there, but
we don't have guys in there unless they're spies. We
have a physical presence and we got money in our hands.
Handing it over to the Chinese government, said well that
part is exactly right. We were funding gain a Function
research in Wuhan, China. And doctor Fauci can say, well,

(24:32):
that isn't the right definition, and this and that that's wordsmithing.
But everyone has a pretty good understanding of what was
taking place, especially your listeners. I would say, I'm pretty
educated as following it as best they could. You know.
Let's let me let me go back a little bit,

(24:52):
just on a lot of things. I went to China
probably eight years ago before this type of stuff ever
blew up. I can't go there now. They don't really
like me these days. But you don't want to go,
you know. I don't know about yeah, so, but you know,
I said, I talked to him. I said, look, there's
a lot of things that we can do in the
health fields together. When I get my journals, my surgical journals, right,

(25:13):
you know, there are articles written by Chinese surgeons. You know,
this is non controversial stuff, right, and you can take
a look at this. At the time, I argued, quit
sending fentanyl to the United States of America, right, but
you know, to you know, fast forward, our State Department
in two thousand and five had said publicly that China

(25:36):
was working on bioweapons. In twenty fifteen, China, their Academy
of Military Medical Science, wrote a book talking about coronaviruses
as bioweapons. There were public comments by Chinese scientists over
the years, some stating they had concerns about coronaviruses being bioweapons,

(25:59):
and others just saying yeah, they could be sure. Right,
So you see them talking about it. We've admitted that
they were working on this, and where are they doing
this in Wuhan, China. Yeah, okay, you have the Wuhan
Institute of Rology, which, once COVID became a pandemic, was
taken over by the military. You had China covering things

(26:22):
up from Vergaan, not letting the WHO in President g
telling President Trump telling that Doctor Tedrose at the WHO
saying hey, we've got this under control. It's under control.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
No it was not.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
He restricted travel, He restricted travel within the country. President
she did, yeah, but allowed it to go out internationally.
You know. So all the red flags are there. So
let's go to what you were talking about about us
doing research there. So EcoHealth Alliance is the company, if

(26:59):
you will, that was doing the gain of function research
in China. They went to DARPA Defense Advanced Research Projects
Agency to try and get the grant and they were
turned down. As we go back into their emails, and
this is doctor Peter Dazak of EcoHealth Alliance. So try

(27:20):
to follow the bouncing ball here. I know a lot
of players here and working with doctor Ralph Barrick in
North Carolina who in twenty fifteen wrote the article published
the article with doctor Zenglisi and China about how they
have created kaimera chimera. If you look it up, it's

(27:43):
the horseman right. You've taken two things and put them
together made one. The idea was you take parts of
different viruses and put them together. They showed that capability
in twenty fifteen. So here's Peter Dazik of EcoHealth Alliance
in emails with Ralph Barrack in North Carolina and Zenglishi

(28:05):
in China saying we're going to go to DARPA this
is in our Defense Advanced Research for a grant to
do this gain of function research. He goes, We're going
to tell them this is in the emails. We're going
to tell them that we're going to do all this
in North Carolina. But once we get the money, we'll

(28:28):
do this in China at a BSL two lab okay,
which is not as safe. There's three and four they're safer.
We'll do it at a BSL two and save money.
Ralph Berrick in North Carolina, to his credit, says, I'm
not doing that right, I'm not doing that. This needs

(28:49):
to be done at three or four, etc. Daazik. In
the back of my head, I'm thinking, no, this does
not need to be done. Stop doing this.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
But at all.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
If you're going to do it, though, you got to
have it at a high level lab, not a leaky lab. Yes,
so yeah, which we know yes, had leaks. So he
goes to DARPA and says, no, we're gonna spells it out.
We want to do this in China. DARPA says no, no, no, no, going.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Back to the whole idea of bio weapons, it's too
risky because you're you're creating this chimera thing which allows
the manipulation of these viruses to maybe specifically target certain
select people like exactly Jews or white people, or Northern
Europeans or black people or I mean our DNA is

(29:39):
broken down differently.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
I mean they're doing cancer research. It's mind blowing tailor
made to attack your specific cancer. And if they can
do that, they can tailor make one of these these
biologic weapons to kill a certain segment of society while
freeing everybody else. So DARPA under defense says, no, too risky,
We're not funding a grant like that. So now he

(30:03):
goes over to NIH National Institute's Health who runs that,
Francis Collins, and this would come through NIAI D who
runs that, Tony Falci, Tony Fauci.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
All right, So.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
In twenty eleven, Collins and Fauci had written articles saying,
therefore gain of function research and why do they want
to do that? Their basic premise, if I can break
it down for the listeners, is that if we can
create a virus that may arrive from nature, that may

(30:40):
arrive from nature, and have the cure for it, then
there's nothing we can't cure if it aris okay. Twenty twelve,
in an interview with Tony Fauci, someone I asks, after
understanding more about gain of function research, says, well, aren't
you concerned that it might get out of a lab
create a pandemic. Doctor Fauci's response was, and I'm paraphrasing, well,

(31:06):
I think the benefits out weigh the risk. I think
it's very low risk that it would get out of
the lab, and the benefits out weigh the risk. He's
never contradicted that he's never gone back and said, well,
maybe I should have thought differently about this. No whoops moment,
No no, no, no, I had no not allowed to
go that and condemn yourself. But anyway, so here we are,

(31:31):
so the money goes out. What's even worse, Brian, and
this is what we discovered through this report period, is
how did this grant get out? What's the process? Doctor
Fauci tells us in this transcribed interview. He said, well,
you know, people propose these things, they go to a
committee here at NIAI D Advisory committee if you will,

(31:55):
they review it, and boy, once they approve it, I
just sign it. At one point he said, he said,
we have billions of dollars of grants coming through here.
I can't know what they all are. So who's responsible?
So he said, but look, EcoHealth Alliance wasn't complying with
the grant. They were supposed to do periodic reporting of

(32:17):
what they were doing and especially if they created something
that increased in pathogenicity in other words, became more dangerous.
That happened, and they didn't do it. They were two
years late with their report. All kinds of excuses. Well,
in a world in.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
A government that is this big and fishing out this
much money and has no idea where the money is
coming from, or where it's going or what it's being
used for. That's how we end up with shrimp on
treadmill studies. And that's how we end up with a
Department of Defense that can't even pass an audit eight
times in a row. How the hell is anyone expected

(32:54):
EcoHealth Alliance the report on its own oversight?

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Where is it?

Speaker 4 (32:59):
Is there someone saying around tapping their fingers, going, hey,
you got health as the Lions, but is behind it's
supposed to be a report to us by now? And
that was that person doesn't exist. That was my exact
question to doctor Fauci. I said, does a red flag
go up when they're not adhering to the tenants of
the of the grant? And he said, oh, that's over
in compliance. I don't have anything to do with that. Yeah,

(33:21):
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a lab of the lab in an adversarial country that's
doing dangerous research? Who has oversight over that? And he said, oh,
I wouldn't even know how to do that. Let's continue
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Speaker 1 (36:14):
Knee deep in the COVID report, Congressman retired brad winster
Benz Studio, And of course he's sitting in front of
the how many pages five hundred.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
Five hundred and twenty pages report and seventeen pages or
recommendations for the future, which I hope the next Congress
takes up.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Okay, because we got bird flue of fairness in the
face and that may or may not be you know,
need these recommendations, but we are learning a whole lot
in the aftermath of the lies that have been spread
on its probably more lies than COVID nineteen cases out
in the world. They rushed the vaccine, They denied that
this was a lab created phenomenon, and in fact, there

(36:54):
were people that did the research you mentioned off air,
the FBI. They did, they looked into this extentensively, and
there were many people who concluded this was at least potentially,
if not likely, created in a lab. Now, with given
the history of what you've explained to my listening audience
and me about working with and these chimeras and the

(37:15):
creation of things that make them more communicable for the
purposes of bioweapons, scary who came up with the whole
idea this came out of a wet market? And why
given the viability and the reality of all the prior
reporting and the admission that this work.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
Is being done and has been done in the name
of looking for bioweapons, why the absolute outright denial and
why the ignoring of what the FBI concluded, which this
this came out of the one in studibrology. Yeah, and
the confidence in that from the Intelligence Committee, which I've
served on for ten years, has increased with things we find.

(37:55):
So keep in mind that our report as we put
it out is unclass I hope that there's other things
that will be declassified in the next because you know
they exist, you just can't talk about correct. Yeah, that
I think that, you know, more compelling and help make
the case that perfect came from the lab. Yeah, but
let's let's talk about motive for a second, please you.

(38:18):
So China has every motive to say this came from nature.
They don't want to They don't want to be responsible
for these millions and millions of deaths, right and you know,
you know, first of all, no country wants to say, hey,
come visit China, spend your money here. Guess what, We've
got a virus that's killing people by the millions, Right,

(38:40):
So they they have all kinds of motives to cover
it up because they don't want to talk about their
buy a weapons program. They wouldn't want to do that.
Then they don't want to be at fault for any
of this. Right. Then you have in the United States,
you know, what's the motive here, Well, we were funding
gain function research in China, and we have top level

(39:04):
government scientists who were in favor of this type of research,
and so it behooves them to say that it came
from nature. Now you can go further into what we
discovered in the report is those that came out and
wrote what's known as proximal origins, where a group of
international scientists who do gain a function research or invested

(39:27):
in this type of research, so they write an article
that says it came from nature. They were put together
and assembled by, amongst others, doctor Fauci and doctor Collins,
and a gentleman named Jeremy Farrar, which I won't get
into his background, but they put this group together. When
we get their internal messages, whether it's slack messages or

(39:50):
their emails, they're saying that this thing looks engineered. They're
saying it looks engineered.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
And they find the scenes are saying it looks engineers
among themselves are saying it looks engineered out loud. Though
they're saying it came from that we market, they.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
Say, we can't rule out it's engineered. They're saying all
these things, and they said Christian Anderson said in his
internal messaging, said, my focus is to disprove the lab
leak theory. They say, imagine what this will do to
international harmony if someone of credibility says that this came

(40:28):
from the lab. These are the things they're saying. These
are the things that they were saying in their internal emails.
So they have a lot of motive to say that
it came from nature, so they write proximal origins. Doctor Fauci,
probably without the president or vice president even knowing, suddenly

(40:50):
steps up on the White House lawn and says, I've
got this report just in and by the way, it
wasn't peer reviewed, and it was full of assumptions, and
it says this this came from nature, and you know,
here's how, and a bunch of scientific gobbledy goop. But
they completely ignored the idea that it could have come
from the lab. And doctor Fauci said, this is definitive.

(41:14):
These are brilliant evolutionary virologists, et cetera. And so trying
to make it case closed. And that's only after doctor
Collins said to doctor Fauci in an email, can't you
do more to put down this lab leak my word,
And the very same day that he says this on
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(41:38):
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That's how I described this conversation with now retired Congressman
Brian Winsterrip going over the report that was released, the
declassified report, and without giving me any specifics, I don't
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(44:27):
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(44:50):
after interviewing all these people and going through this whole
chain of events.

Speaker 4 (44:57):
That, given.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
The bio weapons research that's being done in China and
this is a component of it, that this virus may
have been released intentionally, recognizing as we must if you
look at the statistics, you know, global population is seven
plus billion people. A lot of people got sick with coronavirus,

(45:23):
me included, but a tiny like flu like percentage died
from it. That they would release it intentionally to see
how quickly it spread, to see what kind of you know,
reaction the world had, just to see, you know, if
it sort of kind of worked, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, no,
I do.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
And and they're sick minded enough, remember they you know,
they promote and demand abortion. They don't know, I know,
respect for human life. Adolf Hitler is a great example.
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right right, Yeah, so no, I think I don't think

(46:06):
that's the case. I do. I do think from everything
I've seen that the lab leak theory is most likely
and it was an accidental leak, and I'll just leave
it at that, But I tend to go with that.
But the wet Market, for example, I think was the
first super spread spreader. There were cases before the Wet Market,

(46:30):
and you even had well.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
Once it gets released from the lab, if it's out
in humanity and there's one person maybe that worked at
the Institute of Virology, that went over to the Wet
Market gets some dinner, that's where the heavy concentration of
people in closed quarters are, right. Yeah, It's like it'd
be like going to a concert and standing around breathing
on everybody. Yeah, no, exactly right. And you never found

(46:53):
an animal that had well. Yeah, so you know, you
can go through all those animals, you'd think you'd find
it in one of them. And I'm sure China would
love it. Early on, I thought I wouldn't be surprised
if China injects some animals with COVID. Well, the panglin,
that's a whole nother story because it's the receptor binding domain.
I'm gonna start talking over the Lord. It's a receptor

(47:15):
binding domain of COVID nineteen that matches that of a
of a pangolin corona virus. The backbone of COVID nineteen
matches largely that of certain bat viruses. But the key,
the key to make it more infectious was adding a

(47:36):
furein cleavage site. Fure and cleavage site is kind of
like R two D two's arm right, when R two
D two can stick that arm at and get into
any system. Okay, The fure and cleavage site is what
the receptor binding momone, It sticks to your cell, but
the fure and cleavage site penetrates yourself.

Speaker 4 (47:55):
Okay, that's what made it infectious to use. Yes, made
it much more infectious to you, especially cells in our
respiratory system. Okay, So that was the Eco Health Alliance
proposal they wanted to do. To do that, hey, let's
put a cleavage site in there. Yes, like, hey, what's this?
You know it's it's Lord Almighty. It's really dangerous and

(48:18):
you know, look good intentions or not by anybody, I
think the fright should have been there and I will
tell you today and people will agree with me. Gain
a function research can be done through AI. You can
take the sequences the viruses that were getting from animals
through surveillance and through wastewater, et cetera, and take a

(48:42):
look at them, and AI can then put it supplant
different receptor binding domains or if you're in cleavage site
and have a good idea of predictability of whether this
may emerge from nature and how infectious it may be.
We don't need to be truly making the virus. Okay,
you know what? And I just one great positive thumbs

(49:05):
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Congress from Winstrop in studio talking COVID nineteen. The report
is out, the declassified version. We seem to have almost
one hundred percent definitively proven that it was the Wuhuan.
In pseudivirology, gain of function. Research was being done, we
were paying for it.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
All.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
This is well documented in the emails of exchange between
the principles behind the scenes, even though they denied it outright.
The main reason I have come away with, and this
is kind of where I want to boil it down,
Congress from Winstrom. This is really kind of all about money.
If you find out or if we the American people
or the world finds out there doing gain of function research.
Then the grants might stop. If COVID nineteen would spread

(51:37):
globally and did kill millions of people, I will grant
you been sick in hundreds of millions of people, and
it was created in a lab, we might be.

Speaker 4 (51:46):
Inclined to say, you know what, stop that. I'm sorry,
no more grant money for you. This is that? Can
I boil it down to that sort of minimalist conclusion, Well,
it's it's not just grant money, you know What's what's
China's motive. They don't want to be blamed for this,
even if it came from nature, because they want people
to come and visit China. So it's their tourist industry. Sure,

(52:09):
and it's and it's it's hurt their economy, you know.
So then you get to our government. We've been funding
gain of function research. So you don't want to say
it came from from no connection with it, from all
ad we were there, Oh my god? Right, right, So
you want to back away from it, you'd rather say
it came from nature. The international scientists that are doing
this type of research, as well as our funding of it,

(52:32):
as we have have, have a motive because they get
their money through grants, and so you know, look, we
just found so many things, Brian, through this whole process.
You have doctor doctor Morins, who's Fauci's deputy, talking to
doctor Dazik, who runs EcoHealth Alliance, who's doing the gain
of function research in China. We found in his emails

(52:54):
his official email. He says, start emailing me on my
Gmail because these think it he blanks, are FOI me
Freedom of Information Act where we can get his official documents.
And he said, and I'll and I'll delete anything I
don't want In the New York Times, I mean, and
then you dig further. I mean, every rock we looked under,

(53:14):
we found another rock to look under. And it's just
really disappointing that this is our government today and our
agencies need to be brought under control in a big way.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Well, and that is a tough row to ho. It's
certainly something worth trying at least, because right now there
is zero accountability. Very quickly here, before we go to
the break, we just identified in a sort of summary form,
various reasons why we were all collectively lied to and
the motivations behind it. How about corruption, we know the

(53:48):
Biden administration has been paid handsomely millions of dollars by
the Chinese Communist Party, funneled through Hunter Biden. For example,
remember this, you know, this whole discussion reminds me the
fifty one, you know, CIA operating for intelligence intelligence that
oh this has all the year marks of Russian inclusion.
We knew that was a lie, and they knew that
was a lie when they wrote it. This sounds a

(54:09):
lot like that. But in terms of one other motivation,
not wanting to blame the Chinese regardless of our fingerprints
being on and connected with the research, is I mean
any thought that maybe certain members of Congress or the
president is corrupt and the Chinese had the goods on
them for example.

Speaker 4 (54:28):
Well, this is brad Winstrop talking now, Brian. I mean
just by looking at the things that we do know,
you know, Hunter Biden was getting money from people all
around the world, you know, through his using his father's
name and influence through that, and you know we got
information and how much for the big guy? Well who's
the big guy? You know, it's you know everyone can

(54:48):
you know know it's Joe Biden. Now he's gone and
pardoned his son for the last century. Perhaps I'm exaggerating there,
but you know, anything he's done, you know, but that
doesn't mean you still can't investigate, and you still can't
get him under oath for things you just may not
be able to prosecute him for him, is what I understand.
But certainly there's they're they're compromised. They're compromised in so

(55:12):
many ways. The family is at least and so whether
it's the whole administration or an administration is protecting the
compromise President. You know, it's it's interesting that Joe Biden
met with President she not that long ago and there
was no reporting that they he even brought up COVID.
He didn't even say, like, you know how your people doing,

(55:33):
you know how how you guys you know, managing with
COVID and and the fallout of COVID. Still at this
point you don't you don't even talk about about COVID.
So you know, there's there's is the notion that the
Biden family is compromised and so let's just let but
let this be water under the bridge. Those were Adam

(55:53):
shiftsword two years ago with their report two years ago
from the intelligence many was that well, let's just not
look for the origins of COVID. It's water under the bridge,
and it's like, come on, you know, this is not
this is not how it works in America. You know
the American people, you know, are the government. They are

(56:15):
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those who do not study the mistakes of the past
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Speaker 1 (58:22):
You could talk for hours and hours with the tire
congressman Wednesday about this COVID report which just came out. Uh,
he's going to give you the details on it because
you can read it for yourself. It's broken down, it's
got footnotes, it's got references. But real quickly, before we
get to that information, which I know you want to
pass along to the listeners in summary fashion, why the

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reluctance to allow different treatment methodologies. We have a new
virus that's exploded in the planet. It's COVID nineteen. I
know they came out with this emergency use authorization, you know,
a pharmaceutical which the pharmaceutical company was paid handsomely for.
But why not all these options? I mean, we've been
using holistic medicine and other forms of medicine, off label

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use medicines forever, as long as they've been around. We've
been trying different things. But you mentioned using ivermectin out
loud or mentioned it on social media.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
Oh my god. It was as if you uttered the
N word or something. You were banned. You were dismissed
as a crack and a quack horse medicine. But as
it turns out, it actually worked. It worked for a
lot of people, and there are scientific paths to explain

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how this may have had some benefit for people with
both of those and I can't recite it offhand, but
I looked it up. You know, you could see that
there was a potential there. Doctors were doing no harm.
These were FDA approved drugs, and yeah, they were using
it off label. Well, we did a lot of things
off label all the time, right. I used nitroglycerine, you know,

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for the for the lower extremity, why to increase circulation,
which is what nitroglacian does for the heart, So i'd
use patches or people have diminish circulation and it's not
approved for that, but I know scientifically it has an effect, yes,
and no one ever questioned me on it. And all
of a sudden, we're doing these things when people are desperate.

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And here's the problem, Brian, And this is what really
bothers me as a physician is you have these people.
They may be MD, but they haven't stood over a
patient in years.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Yeah, off air, you mentioned Fauci specifically, and he tried
to suggest he had some connection with patient care.

Speaker 4 (01:00:34):
Zero, he wasn't. He wasn't treating patients. You know, he's
not a diagnosed diation. H Rich McCormick, freshman member of
Congress who emergency physician, and he was standing over patients
trying to save their lives. And so, you know, if
you have something that's not going to do any harm
but may bring people around and help them, why would
you not use that, especially when you have nothing else

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exactly and you know, again, do no harm. But you know,
and there's also we've got laws on right to try.
Patients can say no, you know, but if the doctor
explains to you. But you know what, we were eliminating
the doctor from the equation. Yeah, think about that. The
mandate totally takes the doctor out of the equation and
the pharmacies too. They were told they were not a

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lot of fill prescriptions for certain medications. Oh, and it
was pharmacy. But I had doctors I've known and worked
with for years, primary care doctors mostly called me and said,
you know, I can't afford to lose my license right now,
and I'm getting these threatening calls. I still have a
couple more kids to get through college, and this is
what's happening. You know. I called the governor because you

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know a lot of these things are state controlled. Well,
they are state controlled, and we got to be careful
that we're not in Ohio not doing this to our providers.
It's so bizarre. I can't, for the life of me
understand where someone would have the nerve to stand up
and say you can't prescribe that off label. You know,

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and doctor Fauci, you know, he compared it, if you
take the horse dose of ivermectin, yes, it's going to
be a problem. You take the horse dose of anything.
It's there the specific drug that's hurting you. It's the quantity.
It's the quantity. And if you prescribe a human dose
that's safe and can be effective, certainly for parasites, then

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you should be able to prescribe it and hope for
the best. And many people claim, you know, the thing
we're talking about was convalescent plasma. You know, we people
who got COVID and recovered had antibodies like me. Yeah,
and you know, so you take the plasma, you spin
down the antibodies, and you have to have a blood
tyed match like a traditional vaccine in many respects. Yeah, well,

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or treatment or therapeutic right, So we were given that
to people. I remember somebody being written up in the
end choir said, oh my gosh, I thought I was
going to die, and then I got this. I was
better the next day. Granted it wasn't. The monoclonal antibodies
are better, but we didn't have them at the time.
I understand.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Well, Congress Wonster, it has been a distinct pleasure having
you in here. Disturbing and frightening and and nefarious.

Speaker 4 (01:03:14):
All. I just it's got all the intrigue of some
kind of crazy novel that's all been made up. But
go ahead and give our report. You know, you can
look it up online. Just go to Majority Report Coronavirus Pandemic.
It'll come out and it's got all the categories. I mean,
we looked at the nursing home deal in New York

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and had Governor Cuomo in. We looked at the effects
of the bills that we passed. This was you know,
we uncovered a lot of nefarious behavior, but you can
break it down by category. Read the parts that you're
interested in. We tried to make it easy reading. Everything
is documented. We have all the footnotes, and even when
we have parts of emails were not cherry picking. You

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can you can find the entire chain of emails, as
I would expect from someone like you. It's been a
real pleasure.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
You know, I have always told you just because you're
not in congressman anymore, doesn't mean you're not welcome here
to talk about things like this. I know you'll keep
your finger on the pulse that matters in Washington. I
know you're off the bigger and better things in your world.
And you know, God bless you for being around all
these years for me and my listening audience, and again
you have a welcome invitation here in the fifty five
Carsey Morning Show.

Speaker 4 (01:04:26):
My friend, it's been an honor and I can't thank
you enough, because part of this job is to be
a messenger.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
You know you are.

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We put out our emails, you know we embrace the media.
I was never afraid to go on CNN either, because
facts are stubborn things. They are indeed seven fifty seven
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Gonna be talking to Oliver Lane, the London bureau chief
about the UK, plus Daniel Davis deep dives. Stick around.
It's a new year, new resolutions, new promises.

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