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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, Chris to two point zero.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
My wife, I mentioned to Joe Strecker during the break,
it's a very christ centered show this morning. I mean,
I didn't set out to preach, but for the second
guests in a row, we have another reverend on, a
pastor and a guy that I became really, really fond
(00:28):
of after meeting and talking to on the air. And
you know, it's weird that we have him on next
because we just had Reverend Jim Harden, who's the head
of Compasscare USA, which helps women who are pregnant in
their pregnancies emergency Christian crisis centers around the country that
(00:50):
give women an alternative to abortion.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
From a Christian way of helping.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
And this is one of the most pro life people
I know. Are there any more on the way Corey Funny?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
First off, Good mornings, Mary, Chris. Yes, thank you so
much for having me on Funny. You mention that I'm
actually just getting out of the gym and going to
pick up diapers right now. So a lot of people
you know that you gained ten pounds with each pregnancy,
but they didn't tell you gained twenty pounds with every campaign.
So I'm working that off before Christmas hits you.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
You got a lot of good dinners out of it,
did you?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
So first and foremost, the man you ran against for
mayor Cincinnati, and albeit you're you're here on the radio
and he's trying to explain repossess cars. The mayor who
wound up winning the re election have to have pure
vall has some problems making his bills, and you know
(01:59):
how hard it is. You've got a family, you've got
a business, you've got a congregation, and you know it's
tough out there. So I mean, we all have problems
making ends meet. In today's society, things cost a lot
more and sometimes we we go over budget. Do you
(02:19):
ever ever have a problem with having a hard time
making making ends meet?
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Corey Well, I think like many people you know in
our nation and the world, you know, you find times
where you're it's harder than normal, or you might have
an in sinuating circumstance. I believe, you know, it's crazy.
I'm actually following some very good friends of mine this morning.
I heard Christopher Smithman on your show and then offstar
(02:46):
Ken Kober on your show earlier, and they all had
valid points. You know that you know, when it comes
to repossession, and when it comes to all this, you
get multiple notifications. To be honest with you, in the
time that we're in the companies try to make it
as easy as they can because they don't want to repossess,
so they don't want to foreclose on things. And so yeah,
(03:08):
that's an important thing to try to have a hand
on your finances, especially if you're over a one point
nine billion dollar budget over the next fiscal year. And
so I think the biggest thing that I came across though,
because no matter what I found out my first campaign,
they're always going to come after anything they can find
on you, any dirt that they can find. Yeah, but
(03:30):
the reports that I'm seeing, which especially with what's gone
on recently in our city with the repossessions, or even
with the eight point one million dollar settlement that happened
with the protesters from or the alleged protesters from twenty twenty.
To my knowledge, all of this stuff was known before
the election, but somehow it didn't get report on during
(03:54):
the election. However, there was a lot of hit pieces
on me and a lot of the same publications.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
So saying essentially is that the people who were in
power before the election, who are still in power now
may have had their hands on the levers of the
information somehow that as you mentioned, people when you run
for office, I mean, Corey, there is a good reason
(04:21):
that I've never run for political office outside of the
fact I don't need to complicate my life like that.
There's a good reason I know where all the skeletons
are in my closet, and I don't particularly like airing
that out in public. I'll confess my sins, but you know,
they find stuff that you were never guilty of that
(04:43):
they dig up. And yet this is a matter of
public record, and it happened not once, but I understand
for mister Puval it's happened a couple of times that
he forgot about his auto pay or what some else.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yeah, well, I mean in this, like I said, in
these politics, they're going to come after everything. Now. A
lot of people, what I find is on the opposite side.
They take it as like, oh, I'm going to take
the moral high ground in that, like I've never had
any financial challenges. My point would be that the reporting
on it didn't come until after the election. However, you know,
(05:22):
the investigative reporters that you know had called my business
multiple times, that had called my home multiple times, that
you know, reached out to our church multiple times. I
don't I think that these documents are these types of things.
Even with the settlement that we're hearing that this could
have been fairly easily found in public records. On the
(05:43):
other side, however, that stuff was quietly put under the
rug until after November fourth.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
What have you heard from law enforcement, Corey regarding the
new policy guidelines for protests that are in included apparently
in this settlement that they're going to rubber stamp tomorrow
that they knew about before the election, you know, along
with the money obviously, But this just opens the door
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for any other group of people who want to commit
crime in the name of what they call protests. And
it not only means they got a green light to
commit those kind of crimes, breaking windows, throwing urine bottles
at officers in the like, but there might be a
(06:35):
payday in case they get arrested later on down the line.
But what have you heard from law enforcement on this settlement,
if anything, Well, I'll say this that you know you
said that this opens the doors.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
This is giving a green light. Those doors have been
opened for a long time.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Actually, it keeps them open.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
That light has been Yeah, that light has been green
for a while. That's why we ran our race on
public safety. You know, I continue to talk with officers,
and I think people people don't realize the importance of
morale within the police force. And when the morale is
already low and then you have a settlement like this
that basically says these officers put their lives on the
(07:15):
line during these times where you know, during the day
they were simply just maintaining they weren't, you know, trying
to cause any problem. And a lot of the protesters,
you know, people have the constitutional right to protest and
we shouldn't be against that. But when officers are trying
to do their job and then they get slapped on
the hand because of it, or even worse, they get
(07:36):
reprimanded or they basically get told, hey, your job doesn't
really mean anything, that morale goes low. We're seeing that
with the judges, the progressive judges in Hamilton County are
just allowing criminals to be back on the streets. And
the one of the biggest things I heard from officers
throughout the year was we don't even see the point
in arresting many times because these people are just going
(07:58):
to be right back out on the street, you know.
And when we say that, we say repeat criminals, we
know that a lot of these are repeat offenders that
keep on coming. They're always going to cause trouble and
there's no consequences to that. You know, the crime in
our city is done by a very small handful of people.
I'm telling you that right now puts a stain on
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the entire city. But it can be easily fixed by
just allowing the officers to do their jobs, the escalation tactics,
approaching properly, en forcing low level crimes to cause the escalation,
and then also putting pressure on the judges. And I
think the number one, the absolute number one thing that's
wrong with our city public safety right now is understaffing.
(08:42):
I'm going to preach that over and over and over
that any organization that is twenty percent understaffed cannot adequately
take care of its job like it should. And that's
what's happening with our CPD. They're swimming, they're trying to
gasp for air every weekend and trying to take care
of this city. They love our city, they want to
(09:03):
protect and serve and they don't feel like anybody has
their back from city Hall, from the law department, or
from any other sector of the city.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
More with Pastor Corey Bowman and unjust a moment. It's
eight fifteen at fifty five KRC, the talk station Bill Cunningham.
Here you may wonder how much money should.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
You have in your emerca? Here see the talk station.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
We're talking with Corey Bowman. Gone from candidate Bowman to
citizen Bowman again a pastor Bowman, Businessman Bowman? What did
where's your coffee shopping business in twenty twenty Corey?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Had you guys started yet?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
We had just started our church in twenty twenty and
then we start our coffee shop in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
All Right, the protests, which, like I said, we have
a constitutional right to protest in this country. It's one
of the great things about America. Don't have a constitutional
right to prohibit someone else from exercising their constitutional right
to move, to do commerce, to go to church and
(10:12):
all of that. Twenty twenty was a tough year in
many ways to start a business or a church or
anything because of some pretty insane restrictions that were put
on the population and mandates that were enclosures and all
the rest. Anyway, as a citizen of Cincinnati in twenty twenty,
(10:36):
how if it all did the rotest, the protest and
the violence that was associated with these riots as ken
Kober called them, see writing is not constitutional? But how
did they affect you as a citizen?
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Cory Well, I would say that this is actually what
started our church, Gary Jeff, because for us, many people
might not know this side of the story for our life,
but many people knew me as a coffee shop owner
in the West End and a candidate for mayor and
obviously vice president Jade Vance's brother. But what got us
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back to Sincant because I grew up in the area,
but I had gone to Tampa, Florida to study ministry,
and during that time, I always knew that I was
coming back to Cincinnati. And then what happened was that
I had a pastor that got arrested for having church.
You know, pastors these days get arrested for many things,
and you're always wondering, oh, Dear God, what they have
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their hands into. But my pastor. We were our church
that we were a part of. We fed a thousand
families a week, we were doing outreach, we were helping people,
and the local government, through the city council and through
the mayor and the county sheriff. We're trying to shut
down churches in Tampa, Florida at that time. Well, my pastor,
you know, politely respectfully refused because we couldn't shut the
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doors down to helping people. And then to make an
example out of them, they arrested them at his home,
sent a helicopter to his house and arrested them. Now
the charges were dropped because of the Constitution, and also
the governor Desantus came up and said churches are essential.
No pastors are going to be arrested. During that time,
that started something in us because my hometown, Cincinnati was
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going through many things where they were trying to shut
down businesses. All the riots were happening. And when that happened,
you know, your heartbreaks for people. I looked at my
wife and I said, we have to start our church now.
So we start our church November of twenty twenty, in
the middle of all those mandates, and within the first
week of our church. We were going out to the
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arts apartments in the West End and other areas and
distributing meals and groceries and clothes and toy giveaways. And
we've been going. We actually just celebrate our five year
anniversary and I tell people thank you, and I tell
people we started in rebellion. Know, we started by basically saying, no,
churches are essential. We've got to help people no matter what,
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and we can't bow our knees to a tyrannical government,
whether it's local or any other level.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah, render under Caesar? What is Caesar's? Render? Under God?
What is God's?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
And you guys absolutely.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
You know, demonstrated that through faith and through action both.
How do we how do we address the continued violence
in Cincinnati. I hate to call it gun violence because
you know what, I've talked to people before that our
Second Amendment enthusiast. In other words, they appreciate the fact
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that we have a god given right to carry and
to own firearms cory as citizens, as as law abiding citizens.
How do we get a handle in this violence? And
you talked about the recidivism rate of people who continue
to commit crimes because of the revolving door in the
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justice system. I think the recidivism rate on violent crime
is about eighty seven percent of the last figures I saw.
So how do more shootings to? You know, more shootings
this week and over the weekend, somebody died because of
this violence. It's really it's a cultural thing that we
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need to get a hold of. And can we stop
calling it gun violence because it's simply violence that if
they committed with a gun, it's fine. They outlawed guns
in Great Britain and there are stabbings in what they
call the Tube almost every week in London.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Well, you know what, Gary Jeff. Over the last year,
not only were we campaigning for our local race, but
we got a chance to go to a lot of
dinners and events of whether it be state or national things.
Years running for political offices as well. And at many
of these dinners and fundraisers or rallies, whatever you want
to call them, there's always a question and answer session.
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And I found it funny because I'm I'm a you know,
I'm a Christian. I'm a father and a husband first
and a pastor, and then everything that we do in
our lives is dictated by that vision for our life
of just helping people through the power of God. And
as I was at these events, I found it kind
of interesting that every question was always related to, you know,
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very key things that we're dealing with in our country
with UH, with violence, with public safety, and also with affordability,
with jobs, with a lot of things that people are
suffering with right now. And you're a lot of people.
What I say is that you're looking to when you
have a spiritual crisis going on in the country. A
lot of people, you know, try to figure out whether
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they should worship government or not. And when I say
worship government, it's like they look to the government for everything,
for their source of supply, look at that for to
fix everything. There's administrative things that every government needs to fix,
and just focus on their jobs. Stop trying to play
national politics or trying to use it as a platform
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for bigger aspirations. Just do your job and keep the
streets clean and safe, prosperous. You know, when it comes
to the violence in our savity, administrative capability is make
sure your cops are properly staffed, make sure that they
can enforce in a way to where there's de escalation.
Make sure the judges are held to accountability, and then
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make sure that the officers have a role in the
community that they're not just seen as the worst case scenario,
bad guys, but they're there to protect and serve the community.
But ultimately, all these questions that I've heard over dinners
and fundraisers, all these questions that we're asking ourselves right now,
whether people want to realize they or not, it all
comes down to a spiritual crisis, and we need a
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spiritual revival in this country. We need people to turn
back to God. We need to establish the family unit,
fathers in the home, allowing people to work for a living,
providing jobs when necessary, to be able to give people
a helping hand up, not just a handout, but a
hand up, and all that in my mind, because I've
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been at some of the lowest points, you know, throughout
my life at times, and the thing that always brought
me up, and the thing that's always brought everybody else
up that I talk to that has worth anything, all
comes back to turning your life over to Jesus Christ.
And my job isn't to force Jesus on everybody. My
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job is to tell people, hey, this is something that
has changed my life. I would encourage anybody that's listening
right now. Maybe you've never given your life to Jesus,
or maybe you've never actually taken that step to step
into a church because you think, hey, I don't I'm
not right, or I'm not ready for Jesus yet, I'm
not clean enough for Jesus. That's like me taking my
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car to a car wash and saying, oh, it's too
dirty to take it to the car wash. I got
to clean it up first. You know, coming to Christ.
Coming to Christ is coming as you are and then
allowing him to be able to make your life better
in every way. And that's what He's done for me
and my family. And I would encourage everybody I think about.
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You know, I think it was the night before the election,
Gary Jeffsen, you gave me a call and me and
you just prayed over the election, and there was so
much peace in my home at that time. And I'm
so thankful for brothers like you that are encouraging in
every way. And I think people need more of that
more than anything.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Pastor Bowman, you know what, that may be more important
than saying, mayor bowmen. Pastor Bowman Merry Christmas.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Merry Christmas to you, sir.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
All right, thank you so much. Jim Ornacy will join
us next. I'm sure it'll be a totally different conversation.
Eight twenty eight
Good morning, Chris to two point zero.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
My wife, I mentioned to Joe Strecker during the break,
it's a very christ centered show this morning. I mean,
I didn't set out to preach, but for the second
guests in a row, we have another reverend on, a
pastor and a guy that I became really, really fond
(00:28):
of after meeting and talking to on the air. And
you know, it's weird that we have him on next
because we just had Reverend Jim Harden, who's the head
of Compasscare USA, which helps women who are pregnant in
their pregnancies emergency Christian crisis centers around the country that
(00:50):
give women an alternative to abortion.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
From a Christian way of helping.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
And this is one of the most pro life people
I know. Are there any more on the way Corey Funny?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
First off, Good mornings, Mary, Chris. Yes, thank you so
much for having me on Funny. You mention that I'm
actually just getting out of the gym and going to
pick up diapers right now. So a lot of people
you know that you gained ten pounds with each pregnancy,
but they didn't tell you gained twenty pounds with every campaign.
So I'm working that off before Christmas hits you.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
You got a lot of good dinners out of it,
did you?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
So first and foremost, the man you ran against for
mayor Cincinnati, and albeit you're you're here on the radio
and he's trying to explain repossess cars. The mayor who
wound up winning the re election have to have pure
vall has some problems making his bills, and you know
(01:59):
how hard it is. You've got a family, you've got
a business, you've got a congregation, and you know it's
tough out there. So I mean, we all have problems
making ends meet. In today's society, things cost a lot
more and sometimes we we go over budget. Do you
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ever ever have a problem with having a hard time
making making ends meet?
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Corey Well, I think like many people you know in
our nation and the world, you know, you find times
where you're it's harder than normal, or you might have
an in sinuating circumstance. I believe, you know, it's crazy.
I'm actually following some very good friends of mine this morning.
I heard Christopher Smithman on your show and then offstar
(02:46):
Ken Kober on your show earlier, and they all had
valid points. You know that you know, when it comes
to repossession, and when it comes to all this, you
get multiple notifications. To be honest with you, in the
time that we're in the companies try to make it
as easy as they can because they don't want to repossess,
so they don't want to foreclose on things. And so yeah,
(03:08):
that's an important thing to try to have a hand
on your finances, especially if you're over a one point
nine billion dollar budget over the next fiscal year. And
so I think the biggest thing that I came across though,
because no matter what I found out my first campaign,
they're always going to come after anything they can find
on you, any dirt that they can find. Yeah, but
(03:30):
the reports that I'm seeing, which especially with what's gone
on recently in our city with the repossessions, or even
with the eight point one million dollar settlement that happened
with the protesters from or the alleged protesters from twenty twenty.
To my knowledge, all of this stuff was known before
the election, but somehow it didn't get report on during
(03:54):
the election. However, there was a lot of hit pieces
on me and a lot of the same publications.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
So saying essentially is that the people who were in
power before the election, who are still in power now
may have had their hands on the levers of the
information somehow that as you mentioned, people when you run
for office, I mean, Corey, there is a good reason
(04:21):
that I've never run for political office outside of the
fact I don't need to complicate my life like that.
There's a good reason I know where all the skeletons
are in my closet, and I don't particularly like airing
that out in public. I'll confess my sins, but you know,
they find stuff that you were never guilty of that
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they dig up. And yet this is a matter of
public record, and it happened not once, but I understand
for mister Puval it's happened a couple of times that
he forgot about his auto pay or what some else.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yeah, well, I mean in this, like I said, in
these politics, they're going to come after everything. Now. A
lot of people, what I find is on the opposite side.
They take it as like, oh, I'm going to take
the moral high ground in that, like I've never had
any financial challenges. My point would be that the reporting
on it didn't come until after the election. However, you know,
(05:22):
the investigative reporters that you know had called my business
multiple times, that had called my home multiple times, that
you know, reached out to our church multiple times. I
don't I think that these documents are these types of things.
Even with the settlement that we're hearing that this could
have been fairly easily found in public records. On the
(05:43):
other side, however, that stuff was quietly put under the
rug until after November fourth.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
What have you heard from law enforcement, Corey regarding the
new policy guidelines for protests that are in included apparently
in this settlement that they're going to rubber stamp tomorrow
that they knew about before the election, you know, along
with the money obviously, But this just opens the door
(06:13):
for any other group of people who want to commit
crime in the name of what they call protests. And
it not only means they got a green light to
commit those kind of crimes, breaking windows, throwing urine bottles
at officers in the like, but there might be a
(06:35):
payday in case they get arrested later on down the line.
But what have you heard from law enforcement on this settlement,
if anything, Well, I'll say this that you know you
said that this opens the doors.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
This is giving a green light. Those doors have been
opened for a long time.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Actually, it keeps them open.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
That light has been Yeah, that light has been green
for a while. That's why we ran our race on
public safety. You know, I continue to talk with officers,
and I think people people don't realize the importance of
morale within the police force. And when the morale is
already low and then you have a settlement like this
that basically says these officers put their lives on the
(07:15):
line during these times where you know, during the day
they were simply just maintaining they weren't, you know, trying
to cause any problem. And a lot of the protesters,
you know, people have the constitutional right to protest and
we shouldn't be against that. But when officers are trying
to do their job and then they get slapped on
the hand because of it, or even worse, they get
(07:36):
reprimanded or they basically get told, hey, your job doesn't
really mean anything, that morale goes low. We're seeing that
with the judges, the progressive judges in Hamilton County are
just allowing criminals to be back on the streets. And
the one of the biggest things I heard from officers
throughout the year was we don't even see the point
in arresting many times because these people are just going
(07:58):
to be right back out on the street, you know.
And when we say that, we say repeat criminals, we
know that a lot of these are repeat offenders that
keep on coming. They're always going to cause trouble and
there's no consequences to that. You know, the crime in
our city is done by a very small handful of people.
I'm telling you that right now puts a stain on
(08:20):
the entire city. But it can be easily fixed by
just allowing the officers to do their jobs, the escalation tactics,
approaching properly, en forcing low level crimes to cause the escalation,
and then also putting pressure on the judges. And I
think the number one, the absolute number one thing that's
wrong with our city public safety right now is understaffing.
(08:42):
I'm going to preach that over and over and over
that any organization that is twenty percent understaffed cannot adequately
take care of its job like it should. And that's
what's happening with our CPD. They're swimming, they're trying to
gasp for air every weekend and trying to take care
of this city. They love our city, they want to
(09:03):
protect and serve and they don't feel like anybody has
their back from city Hall, from the law department, or
from any other sector of the city.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
More with Pastor Corey Bowman and unjust a moment. It's
eight fifteen at fifty five KRC, the talk station Bill Cunningham.
Here you may wonder how much money should.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
You have in your emerca? Here see the talk station.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
We're talking with Corey Bowman. Gone from candidate Bowman to
citizen Bowman again a pastor Bowman, Businessman Bowman? What did
where's your coffee shopping business in twenty twenty Corey?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Had you guys started yet?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
We had just started our church in twenty twenty and
then we start our coffee shop in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
All Right, the protests, which, like I said, we have
a constitutional right to protest in this country. It's one
of the great things about America. Don't have a constitutional
right to prohibit someone else from exercising their constitutional right
to move, to do commerce, to go to church and
(10:12):
all of that. Twenty twenty was a tough year in
many ways to start a business or a church or
anything because of some pretty insane restrictions that were put
on the population and mandates that were enclosures and all
the rest. Anyway, as a citizen of Cincinnati in twenty twenty,
(10:36):
how if it all did the rotest, the protest and
the violence that was associated with these riots as ken
Kober called them, see writing is not constitutional? But how
did they affect you as a citizen?
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Cory Well, I would say that this is actually what
started our church, Gary Jeff, because for us, many people
might not know this side of the story for our life,
but many people knew me as a coffee shop owner
in the West End and a candidate for mayor and
obviously vice president Jade Vance's brother. But what got us
(11:16):
back to Sincant because I grew up in the area,
but I had gone to Tampa, Florida to study ministry,
and during that time, I always knew that I was
coming back to Cincinnati. And then what happened was that
I had a pastor that got arrested for having church.
You know, pastors these days get arrested for many things,
and you're always wondering, oh, Dear God, what they have
(11:39):
their hands into. But my pastor. We were our church
that we were a part of. We fed a thousand
families a week, we were doing outreach, we were helping people,
and the local government, through the city council and through
the mayor and the county sheriff. We're trying to shut
down churches in Tampa, Florida at that time. Well, my pastor,
you know, politely respectfully refused because we couldn't shut the
(12:01):
doors down to helping people. And then to make an
example out of them, they arrested them at his home,
sent a helicopter to his house and arrested them. Now
the charges were dropped because of the Constitution, and also
the governor Desantus came up and said churches are essential.
No pastors are going to be arrested. During that time,
that started something in us because my hometown, Cincinnati was
(12:24):
going through many things where they were trying to shut
down businesses. All the riots were happening. And when that happened,
you know, your heartbreaks for people. I looked at my
wife and I said, we have to start our church now.
So we start our church November of twenty twenty, in
the middle of all those mandates, and within the first
week of our church. We were going out to the
(12:44):
arts apartments in the West End and other areas and
distributing meals and groceries and clothes and toy giveaways. And
we've been going. We actually just celebrate our five year
anniversary and I tell people thank you, and I tell
people we started in rebellion. Know, we started by basically saying, no,
churches are essential. We've got to help people no matter what,
(13:05):
and we can't bow our knees to a tyrannical government,
whether it's local or any other level.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah, render under Caesar? What is Caesar's? Render? Under God?
What is God's?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
And you guys absolutely.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
You know, demonstrated that through faith and through action both.
How do we how do we address the continued violence
in Cincinnati. I hate to call it gun violence because
you know what, I've talked to people before that our
Second Amendment enthusiast. In other words, they appreciate the fact
(13:41):
that we have a god given right to carry and
to own firearms cory as citizens, as as law abiding citizens.
How do we get a handle in this violence? And
you talked about the recidivism rate of people who continue
to commit crimes because of the revolving door in the
(14:02):
justice system. I think the recidivism rate on violent crime
is about eighty seven percent of the last figures I saw.
So how do more shootings to? You know, more shootings
this week and over the weekend, somebody died because of
this violence. It's really it's a cultural thing that we
(14:26):
need to get a hold of. And can we stop
calling it gun violence because it's simply violence that if
they committed with a gun, it's fine. They outlawed guns
in Great Britain and there are stabbings in what they
call the Tube almost every week in London.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Well, you know what, Gary Jeff. Over the last year,
not only were we campaigning for our local race, but
we got a chance to go to a lot of
dinners and events of whether it be state or national things.
Years running for political offices as well. And at many
of these dinners and fundraisers or rallies, whatever you want
to call them, there's always a question and answer session.
(15:09):
And I found it funny because I'm I'm a you know,
I'm a Christian. I'm a father and a husband first
and a pastor, and then everything that we do in
our lives is dictated by that vision for our life
of just helping people through the power of God. And
as I was at these events, I found it kind
of interesting that every question was always related to, you know,
(15:32):
very key things that we're dealing with in our country
with UH, with violence, with public safety, and also with affordability,
with jobs, with a lot of things that people are
suffering with right now. And you're a lot of people.
What I say is that you're looking to when you
have a spiritual crisis going on in the country. A
lot of people, you know, try to figure out whether
(15:52):
they should worship government or not. And when I say
worship government, it's like they look to the government for everything,
for their source of supply, look at that for to
fix everything. There's administrative things that every government needs to fix,
and just focus on their jobs. Stop trying to play
national politics or trying to use it as a platform
(16:12):
for bigger aspirations. Just do your job and keep the
streets clean and safe, prosperous. You know, when it comes
to the violence in our savity, administrative capability is make
sure your cops are properly staffed, make sure that they
can enforce in a way to where there's de escalation.
Make sure the judges are held to accountability, and then
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make sure that the officers have a role in the
community that they're not just seen as the worst case scenario,
bad guys, but they're there to protect and serve the community.
But ultimately, all these questions that I've heard over dinners
and fundraisers, all these questions that we're asking ourselves right now,
whether people want to realize they or not, it all
comes down to a spiritual crisis, and we need a
(16:56):
spiritual revival in this country. We need people to turn
back to God. We need to establish the family unit,
fathers in the home, allowing people to work for a living,
providing jobs when necessary, to be able to give people
a helping hand up, not just a handout, but a
hand up, and all that in my mind, because I've
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been at some of the lowest points, you know, throughout
my life at times, and the thing that always brought
me up, and the thing that's always brought everybody else
up that I talk to that has worth anything, all
comes back to turning your life over to Jesus Christ.
And my job isn't to force Jesus on everybody. My
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job is to tell people, hey, this is something that
has changed my life. I would encourage anybody that's listening
right now. Maybe you've never given your life to Jesus,
or maybe you've never actually taken that step to step
into a church because you think, hey, I don't I'm
not right, or I'm not ready for Jesus yet, I'm
not clean enough for Jesus. That's like me taking my
(18:01):
car to a car wash and saying, oh, it's too
dirty to take it to the car wash. I got
to clean it up first. You know, coming to Christ.
Coming to Christ is coming as you are and then
allowing him to be able to make your life better
in every way. And that's what He's done for me
and my family. And I would encourage everybody I think about.
(18:21):
You know, I think it was the night before the election,
Gary Jeffsen, you gave me a call and me and
you just prayed over the election, and there was so
much peace in my home at that time. And I'm
so thankful for brothers like you that are encouraging in
every way. And I think people need more of that
more than anything.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Pastor Bowman, you know what, that may be more important
than saying, mayor bowmen. Pastor Bowman Merry Christmas.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Merry Christmas to you, sir.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
All right, thank you so much. Jim Ornacy will join
us next. I'm sure it'll be a totally different conversation.
Eight twenty eight
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