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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Fifty five KRC the talk station. Good morning, five o
five on this Tuesday morning, June the ninth. Allready, well
see that I can't believe that the year is already
halfway over? Where does time? God? But another day of

(00:32):
living a dream, A great day to be here. Fifty
five KRC hanging out with Joe Strucker and sitting in
for Brian Thomas. I'm Dan Carroll. Thank you so much
for being here this morning. Lots lots to get to
this morning, including uh, a little conversation about the latest
shooting in Cincinnati, which happened early early this morning. Homicide

(00:54):
investigation is underway. A person found dead across the street
from a Cincinnati park overnight, reported on Yarmouth Avenue near
Bondhill Bondhill Park. The victim pronounced dead at the scene.
Investigators Hamilton County Corner is there. No arrests been made.
Police confirm no suspect information has been released. Fatal shootings

(01:22):
are up just a bit to sixty seven and twenty.
Let's see. Last year, gun violence in Cincinnati dropped to
its lowest level in three years, with two hundred and
forty one shootings recorded compared to three hundred and thirteen
and twenty twenty three, fatal shootings wore up to sixty
seven and twenty twenty four after well, this doesn't make

(01:47):
any sense. Fatal shootings were up just a bit into
sixty seven and twenty twenty four after sixty six in
twenty twenty four, So I think that might be that
that's from the Fox nineteen website. So I think they
they hurriedly put that one out there. I'm sure they'll
have an update on that a little bit later on.
But as luck would have it, we're going to speak
with Adam Taylor today from the Cincinnati Exchange. I mentioned

(02:11):
this yesterday, and Adam Taylor has an analytical piece that
is in the Cincinnati Exchange, posted a couple of days ago,
and the headline is this is crime down in Cincinnati?
Or have we simply stopped reporting? And so the piece
goes on to talk about what's happening at the library,

(02:33):
talk about people most likely to report often leave a
cycle hidden inside the numbers. Just and this is what
Adam Taylor does. He did an analytical piece. Joe, did
you see that piece that Adam Kaylor did when he
talked about the street not the streetcar, but the funding

(02:55):
from the railroad. Yeah, and I thought that was just
excellent nownalysis where he talked about the construction costs of
things that the railroad money is supposed to pay for,
and he talked about how the construction costs are expanding
exponentially and yet the interest that is going to be

(03:21):
gained from where the money the one point six billion
dollars is invested is not keeping up with that. So Cincinnati,
when it comes to building roads or infrastructure, or whatever
the case may be with I guess they're mandated too
to use that money in a certain way that that

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they're actually losing ground with every passing day and the
way construction costs are going, so they're essentially getting a
lot less bang for the buck. Yes, that money is growing,
but it's not growing at the same rate in which
construction costs are expand so kaylor Adam Taylor just does

(04:04):
a great job at analyzing all that and looking at
those different aspects of the subject. So we'll talk with him.
That'll be at eight thirty this morning, And I know
we're a long way away from that right now, but
maybe you can hang around till eight thirty. That'll be great. Also,
some other We're a little guests heavy today starting from
the seven o'clock hour, and a couple of my favorite

(04:26):
all time guests are going to be here. One is
Daniel Turner from Power the Future, and Daniel Turner runs
that website. He is an expert on excuse me and that.
He is an expert on matters of energy. He's an
expert on economic issues. You see him all the time
on Fox a lot of times, mostly on Fox Business News,

(04:51):
but he appears on Fox, and he appears on Newsmax
and One America's Voice and a bunch of other different places.
But just a great commentator on all things. Tom z
Owastowski is going to be here, Joe, I can never
remember the name of his website, We the People Convention.

(05:12):
I'm gonna write that down, We the People Convention. Tom's Oastowski,
who's a regular guest here on the fifty five Karsne
Morning Show. Just terrific when it comes to talking about
Ohio and the property tax and things like that. And
I saw a piece Channel four in Columbus did a

(05:34):
investigative piece on Viveake Ramaswami. Joe, did you catch any
of that? Yeah, I caught it. Last night as I
and I didn't have time to really maybe all I
don't know. I'm gonna put a message out see if
I can get Vivec on the show to answer this.
Maybe tomorrow. We've got time for vivike Ramaswami tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
But they.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
The piece from Columbus and Channel four. They found some
They went back to the Wuhan days twenty twenty and
they claim at that time Viveke was I guess that's
when he was in charge of his biotech company, and
they go on to talk about how he was a
proponent of keeping people locked down, separating people by those

(06:27):
who got the vaccine those who didn't. But as I
looked at the report, they were trying to make that case,
and they had some somehow they got a recording of
a phone call or maybe multiple phone calls that Viveke
was on discussing the issue, and the soundbites that they

(06:49):
played didn't really match up with it. So, at least
to my way of thinking, the soundbites that they played
during the course of the report really didn't match up
with the case that they were trying to make and
essentially saying that he and Amy acting we're saying the
same thing back in the Wuhan days, and that's what

(07:13):
I had. Look that they call it COVID nineteen. I
call it the Wuhan. I've always called it the Wuhan,
and I will continue to call it the Wuhan. So
when I say Wuhan, you know exactly what I'm talking about.
I think most Joe, I think most people in this
audience understand that, do you yeah, I think so. So
they're trying to make the case that and that is

(07:35):
what I gleaned from the report. It was a hit
piece on Ramaswami. They were trying to make the case
that he and Amy acting when it went And of
course much of the campaign is going to, at least
from the Republican perspective, is going to be reminding people
of what Amy Acton did during the during the Wuhan

(08:00):
when she was the top medical advisor for Mike the Wine. Joe,
do you remember exactly what her title was at that time?
I don't remember, but she was essentially, you know, the
surgeon General of the state of Ohio. Whatever the name
of that office, I don't. I should have looked it up,

(08:22):
but I did. But you know what I'm saying. But again,
the one SoundBite that I heard that they played of
the veak Ramaswami, he was essentially saying he was talking
about people who and I and and I remember during
the Wuhan when we were trying to make the case,

(08:46):
or at least people who were trying to be reasonable
about the whole thing. We're trying to make the case
that if you have contracted and came down with the virus,
the sickness, the illness, whatever the case may be, then
we know that your body produces antibodies and you achieve

(09:09):
a degree of immunity to further infection, further recurrence of
the illness. And the SoundBite that I heard from Vivak
is essentially that's what he was saying. He was talking
and most of the sound bites he's talking about testing,
and he's talking about, well, you know, we should do testing,

(09:32):
and people that have the antibodies, people that have already
come in contact with the illness, have the illness and
have come out on the other side of the illness,
they shouldn't be discriminated against it in any way. And if
memory serves, that was a big point of contention about
people getting the vaccine at that time, even though they

(09:55):
were saying, even though you've already had it, they were
saying that you still need the vaccine. And Joe, am
I remembering that right? Does that sound right to you? Yeah?
And and it sounds to me like le Vik was
arguing the exact opposite. And so I don't want to
put words in his mouth. I don't want to mischaracterize

(10:16):
his motivations or whatever he was saying. But I'm gonna
I'm gonna reach out to him today and see if
we can't get him on the show tomorrow and respond
to this piece. That's i'll, I'll And I did not,
for whatever reason, I don't know, I had a ire
drew a blank. Didn't send that to Joe. I should have,

(10:36):
but there's so much stuff on to get to today.
I'll try to fit into the tomorrow's show and have
maybe some more intelligent commentary on it. I just start
running off with the mouth. The city council members have
come out with their budget items. We'll touch on that
this morning. Also, Ryl Chumley from the Washington Times, just

(10:59):
a great commentator on all things political. She will be
here at eight o'clock and I can't wait. I love
talking to her. So it's a big day with some
great guests and hopefully some of your phone calls as well.
Five to one to three h seven fifty five hundred
if you want to get on board five sixteen. We
got to get to a break. We'll tell you what's
going on with the weather. It's Dan carrollin for Brian

(11:20):
Thomas on fifty five krc V talk stay and continues
for another couple of days. It is seventy two. We
have fifty five KRCV talk station. You just gotta love

(11:40):
the New York Post with the NBA Finals happening at
Madison Square Gardens last night, got the Knicks and the
Spurs plane the Spurs won by the way, and then
of course he had Donald Trump going to the going
to the game last night, they had to move. I
guess they'd a watch party right outside on a regular basis,

(12:03):
right outside Madison Square Gardens, but the Secret Service said
nah blah blahnah, and so they had to move it
to Bryant Park for the watch party, where, of course
Knicks fans clashed with police and a chaotic scene outside
Bryant Park during the watch party, and of course there's
video of that and people, for whatever reason, it's supposed

(12:25):
to be a watch party, right, you get together your
cheer on your team, and you fight with police. So
I don't know what people in New York are thinking,
but the New York Post is just great. Their headline
is from broom to bust. Everyone was expecting a sweep
in me in the NBA Finals, but of course the

(12:49):
Spurs won last night, so that it means it is
not going to be a sweep. Whatever happens there, I
think I I think I had maybe about two minutes
of the game on TV before I was out, and
I did not see any of the game, so all
I know is at the Spurs one. And of course

(13:10):
a lot of people in New York are having a
conniption because the Knicks did not win last night. So
fun times, great times in New York City today. But
the New York Post is just terrific. There is also
audio and you're going to see a lot of this
on social media today that Trump was booed when they

(13:34):
showed him on camera, and I know at least and
again I didn't watch the whole broadcast, so I don't know,
but at least At one point, they showed him on
camera during the national anthem, and it sounded like this,
you judge for yourself. Joe cut number one, pleasees and.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
B the world parts.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
We was.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
We're so good that Lee.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
She cackets see it again through the night that a

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flag was see say does that star spangled bed?

Speaker 1 (14:49):
And so right now, I don't know what happens later
on there, but in the very beginning, when you hear
the booze come up, that's when they showed President Trump.
He's there, he's saluting. He's standing next to the guy
that owns the Knicks and owns the Madison Square gardens.
Kai Trump was there, So you heard some booing there,

(15:11):
but then later on there's cheers. It sounded like a
perfectly fine rendition of the national anthem. So you decide
for yourself. And again, look, it's New York City. These
are people that voted in Zorhan Mandani, the Communist, to
be their mayor. So does it make sense that these

(15:34):
morons who vote for this sort of thing would maybe
not be huge Trump fans in a political sense. But
it was so funny because there are so many talking
heads on CNN and MSNBC and all the rest of
it where they were criticizing Trump because he wanted to
go to the basketball game. And I think even Kathy

(15:54):
Hokeel said, well, I'm not even sure he's a Knicks fan.
I know Hakim Jeffreys was talking about it the other
day or not the other day, but actually yesterday because
Trump was would dare show his face at the next game?
And there is all kinds of video out there of

(16:16):
Trump being at the next game, Trump being a sports fan.
The different media outlets have done stories about it. There
was one there was one shot I saw of Trump
and in his younger days when he when he was
in New York City, he was at Madison Square Gardens
all the time. So Trump has spent a lot more

(16:37):
time at Madison Square Gardens than I would wager most
of the celebrities or most of the people who were
attending that game. So he was there. And there's actually
a shot I saw video yesterday of Trump actually running
a camera right there. He's he's looking, he's whatever the
event was, and I'm guessing it was a Knicks basketball game.

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But Trump is behind the camera and he's running the
camera and the guys are talking to him, He's like, oh,
this is a great job running the camera here at
they did the basketball game, so so they you know,
they act like, oh, well, he's just going there because
he wants pub and he but no, Trump has been
to multiple events, multiple games, and he was, you know,

(17:22):
when his younger days, when he was the King of
New York, he was at the gardens all the time
and going to the basketball gain. Celebrities love to go
to basketball games for some reason. Five point twenty five,
we got to get to a break and we'll talk
about some of the some of the wish list of
some of the city council members coming up on fifty
five KRC the talk stations. Just don't do it, Just

(17:45):
don't go another day class. Let me dial this up
right here seventy two at fifty five KRCV Talkstation. I

(18:08):
could just let that play for a little while there.
Joe Strecker, fifty five KRC the Talk Station, Dan Carroll
Fort Bryan Thomas touched on this yesterday when our in
our chat with Chris Smithman, who, by the way, if
you met Joe, is that hour with Chris Smithman up
on the fifty five KRC website. The I want to

(18:33):
say the blog. Is it the blog page, the podcast page.
I don't know why the word blog just jumped in.
Does anyone still do blogging? Is that still a thing?
Or's everything? I think everything's podcasting, but it's on the
podcast page. Chris smithment just on fire yesterday for the
entire hour, and I mean he he started off at

(18:53):
about at about eighty miles an hour and didn't slow down.
It was one of his finest, I thought, performances on
fifty five KRC. So we always appreciate him being here.
City council and we did talk. We talked about city
council members. They were going to have their budget meeting yesterday,

(19:14):
so what do they want money for? According to the
Cincinnati Enquirer, five council members want money for Artsville. Three
council members Jan Michelle McCarney, Jeff Kramerding, and Scottie Johnson
want the city to spend two hundred and fifty grand
on Madisonville's Artsville. Council member Mark Jeffries and Anna Albi

(19:38):
only want two hundred thousand. The ten year old nonprofit
runs a performing arts center from a city owned building
on the neighborhood on Madisonville's Wetzel Avenue Executive director Kathy
Garrison said she'd lobby the council member for funds to
buy professional lighting, improved sound equipment, and replace on It's

(20:02):
not an easy task, she said, but that upgrades to
the building will help it attract more professional performances. Without
essential equipment, we are losing them. So is that a
good expenditure there of city funds? Two hundred and fifty
thousand dollars for Madison's Artsville. I don't know much about Artsville,

(20:28):
but that's what they are suggesting. Five members of city council.
One additional money for Boots on the Ground. Joe Orry,
are you familiar with Boots on the ground. They went
between two hundred and another two hundred and fifty fifty.
That figure right there, between two hundred and two hundred
fifty thousand dollars seem to be very popular. The proposed

(20:51):
budget as written already specifies two hundred and forty two
thousand for the group, so why not round it up
to two fifty The city career we add Boots on
the Ground in twenty twenty two, in partnership with the
Greater Cincinnati Foundation to make grants of up to twenty
five thousand dollars to groups working on homelessness, food access,

(21:13):
youth violence, workforce development, and other causes. Yeah, I mean,
how are those things working out? What kind of do
we have? Do we have any progress reports from boots
on the ground. Have we seen? Maybe all ask Adam
Kaylor that if they want to give more money to

(21:36):
these groups, can we maybe get some some information, maybe
some hard numbers on how effective they are in doing
what they propose to do? Is that asking too much?
Is that unreasonable? Look, you're going to go out and
address these issues of food access, homelessness, and workforce development.

(22:02):
Can you show us some progress in that area? Can
we see some success stories? Can we hear from individuals
who have benefited from this large s from the city
among similar advocacy groups winning support from more than one
council member safe, including in neighborhoods fun he keeps Cincinnati

(22:25):
Beautiful program to fight crime by beautifying neighborhoods. All right, Look,
I don't know about you, but as I drive around
the city, I wouldn't say there's a lot of beautification
going on. I see a lot of garbage. I see

(22:47):
ample supplies of garbage, filth, litter, junk on the streets,
and now we want to spend more money on that.
Are we really making and from Tome? I'll be honest.
From time to time, I do see people out there.
I don't know if they're inmates. I don't know if

(23:07):
they're city employees. I don't know who they are. But
every once in a while I see people out there
and they're walking around. They've got the bags, they've got
the reflective vests on, and they're picking stuff up. So
I guess that's good. I guess that costs a certain
amount of money. But again, can we see some progress reports?

(23:31):
Can we see you know, and make sure we're getting
some bang for the buck there, It's all I'm asking.
Let's see. Here's another Mortar m O R T a
R a nonprofit that supports black entrepreneurship in Cincinnati. I
don't know much about Mortar, a nonprofit that supports black

(23:52):
entrepreneurship in Cincinnati. Is there a group that supports non
black or white entrepreneurship? How would that go over? Would
would anyone be advocating money for that? I don't know.
It sounds a little exclusive to me since E Tech
a venture capital firm focusing on tackling the world's complex challenges,

(24:16):
since ey Tech a venture capital firm focused on tackling
the world's complex challenges. So, I again, I don't know
much about Sincy Tech. It sounds like to me, it
sounds like a commercial enterprise if they're a venture capital Joe.

(24:40):
When you hear people talk about venture capital, doesn't that
normally suggest a commercial enterprise a business enterprise?

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yeah? I don't know why public money would come into
play on that centrifuse, which supports startup seeking transitional outcomes,
I'm sorry, transformational outcomes in our region. So these are
things that council members propose spending money on. They want

(25:10):
more money for programs that help younger Cincinnatians find jobs
and stay out of trouble. Seems to me that that
sort of overlaps with the other things. Councilmember Ryan James
wants three hundred and fifty thousand dollars for the Boys
and Girls Clubs. Mika Owens and Seth Walsh suggested dollars
to send kids to Cincinnati Recreation summer camps. For free

(25:34):
Cincinnati Recreation summer camps. I don't know when I was
a kid, I never got to go to camp. I
had all these friends that would go to camp. I
never went to camp when I was a kid. I
always felt like I was left out. Tom is on
the line. Let's we'll find out what Tom has to say.
We got to get to a quick break here, and
then we'll do that and check in and maybe run

(25:55):
down some more of the council members wish lists. On
fifty five KRCV talks there's a new by forty one
on this Tuesday morning, Dan Carol from Brian Thomas fifty
five kr CV talk station. And Tom has been on
hold for a while. And Tom, how are you this morning?

(26:18):
What's going on?

Speaker 5 (26:20):
Oh? I'm just getting ready to go into work. Uh
you I'm working out here in in Indianapolis listening to
it on the iHeartMedia app. So, yep, yep, doing a
good job, doing.

Speaker 6 (26:34):
A good job.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Dan, I appreciate you listening.

Speaker 5 (26:37):
Just want a couple of public service announcements. Mocas Hot
MOCAC Eason is officially over with.

Speaker 7 (26:43):
All this heat.

Speaker 5 (26:44):
Can I cannot do I usually do a I usually
do a single hot moke in the morning. I just
cannot do it.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Anymore.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
You gotta go with the with the iced offerings.

Speaker 7 (26:54):
Now.

Speaker 5 (26:56):
I can't do cold coffee drinks. I don't know what
it is. I've never did.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
I actually, I actually would. I guess. I guess McDonald
says some now, and I thought, you know what, just
for just for the heck of it, I'll try one.
And I think my son was in the car with
me and he got one. I said, you know what,
I'll try one of those. And it was actually pretty good.

Speaker 5 (27:14):
So there, I'll take I'll take your word. Well, I
just never developed to take you. If it's going to
be coffee, it's gotta be hot. If I can't take
the heat, then I'll just leave it. But on the
flip side, uh, peach milkshake season has begun, so you
know what.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
My wife asked me. My wife asked me that the
other day. She said, is it too early for peach yet?
And I don't know. I know it starts in the summertime,
but I thought, you know, beginning of June, it might
be a little bit too early. But you're saying, peach
is here. I love it.

Speaker 7 (27:42):
Peach.

Speaker 5 (27:42):
Peach is here all over the place, but especially at
Chick fil A. Milkshakes are phenomenal. So anyway, so there's
our public.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
Service now sounds more like a plug to me, not
public service.

Speaker 5 (27:59):
Call it whatever you want. The uh you talked about
construction costs earlier and being and being being in construction.
I'm I'm very aware of all the things that go
into to what costs money, and I just want to
make sure you keep in mind that for every guy
you see working, there has to be a minimum of
three people watching him work, especially on a government contract,

(28:22):
and I think the number goes up to five. Five guys.

Speaker 8 (28:26):
Safety, Gotta have a right, gotta have a fodder, Gotta
have somebody watch and make sure that you're not you're
not being safe.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
It is.

Speaker 5 (28:37):
It is crazy how much the price of construction goes
up as soon as the government entity gets involved. Money.
Oh we can, Yeah, it's there's an old there's an
old joke about a guy.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
You know.

Speaker 5 (28:50):
I'm not gonna do the whole thing, but basically it
turns out the guy that gave the highest bid he
got he won the job, and he hired the guy
that gave the lowest bid to do the job. And
maybe what the profits.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Well, it's like college tuition right. Once government money got
involved in sending people to college, It's amazing how those
tuitions just shot right up there.

Speaker 5 (29:13):
Yeah, the government putting money into things is pretty much
anti capitalism because you're just basically giving people free or
reign to charge whatever they want and there's no competition
for it. It's well, maybe there is who can charge
the most, because then the people actually paying the bill
can get a little kickback or something. It's insane.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Well, Counsel Council Member Albi would like an unspecified amount
of money to go to the film Cincinnati and a
save a lot of grocery store in Roselawn.

Speaker 5 (29:45):
Well, and you're also you're asking about accountability and how
dare you how dare you ask to be accountable for
the money they're wanting to spend. I don't know who
you think you are, but it's crazy. Hey, hey, everybody,
don't vote Democrat. I haven't hit that.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Tom As always words to live. Don't vote Democrat. Full
voice for street paving, lead paints and storm water mark
jeffries On's four point five million for street paving, one
million for lend paid removal, and seven hundred and fifty
thousand dollars to combat stormwater damage. Joe, it seems to

(30:23):
me that when you talk about street paving, storm water
and things like that, shouldn't those things be covered under
the railroad deal. Isn't that the kind of stuff that
money like that is supposed to be used for it?
Maybe it's just me, Uh yeah. Seth Walls wants three
hundred grand for an engineering study for the Purple People Bridge.

(30:45):
Huh an engineering study for the Purple People Bridge. And
Mika Owens wants money for gun violence victims memorial. What
that's going to be a big memorial, Not me to
stop gun violence, but memorial for those who are victims
of it. Five forty fifty five KRCV talks Days.

Speaker 7 (31:08):
There's a new and exciting way to start your dri.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
If you were listening yesterday, I came in here and
I was talking about how I forgot my cell phone yesterday.
I had my cell phone today, but I forgot my
coffee cup. So I'm drinking out of one of the
one of the uh compostable coffee cups that we have

(31:39):
over there in the little kitchenette, which I mean, it's
perfectly fine, but the coffee doesn't stay hot very long.
So you got to drink it fast. What's the old saying,
Joe that if you subsidize something, you get more of it,
If you tax something, you get less of it. So
Council member Owens wants money for a gun violence victims memorial,

(32:06):
a gun violence victims memorial. Do we really want more
people in the gun violence memorial if we subsidize that?
I just I don't get it. Several council members suggested

(32:26):
money for programs that helped Cincinnatians repair homes, prevent evictions,
and cover utility bills. Council members Kennie and Johnson specified
five hundred thousand dollars for the Cincinnati Real Property Reparations program.
Now is the time to repair the damage done by

(32:47):
racial and income based discriminatory policies. They said, then that
initial allocation would go for emergency home repairs. Kearney indicated
their worry measure said the program needs five million dollars overall?

Speaker 4 (33:07):
Is that it is that all?

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Is that all on reparations? Hmm? It doesn't seem that,
depending on how you split it up, that five million
dollars for reparations is really going to go all that far,
And that just it just sounds like one of the
worst ideas that you could possibly have. Jeffrey has made

(33:31):
clear he does not support city dollars for Farmer, saying
the two million that may have to purval endorse for
the center should instead go to the streets. Again with
the streets, I thought we had streets covered. It wasn't
that the deal when we sold the railroad. That's and

(33:56):
I'm gonna I'm when when I have Adam kaylor on
in the eight o'clock hour. I mean, this guy has
done a deep dive in all of this. But wasn't
that the money that the Railroad Fund brought in. Wasn't
that supposed to be used for infrastructure project? What is infrastructure? Streets, sewers, bridges, roads, overpasses,

(34:29):
things like that. Isn't that what that money's supposed to
be used for. Shouldn't that relieve that one point six
billion dollars you tap into into that, you allocate some
of that. Shouldn't that relieve some of the pressure on
the city budget, of which we have a thirty million

(34:50):
dollar deficit? This piece in the end Quirre And again
I was not at the meeting yesterday, so I don't
know if this came up. I don't know if any
of these council members address the issue of the thirty
million dollar deficit, and then again the unfunded liabilities that

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the City of Cincinnati has that any I don't know
if any of that was addressed in a meaningful way.
I'll have to read more into what happened at the
meeting yesterday. But according to this this was and again
this was just a chance to them to get their
wish list out there. But why are we engaged in
this exercise at all? Is this if you're a voter.

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I don't live in the City of Cincinnati. I don't
vote in the City of Cincinnati, but if I did,
I would look at this exercise of council members. We
got they spent a few hundred thousand dollars over here,
three hundred thousand dollars for this project, two one hundred
and fifty thousand dollars for the arts in Madisonville. I

(35:58):
would just look at this exercise as a complete and
total waste of time. We have a normal budget process
in the City of Cincinnati. Why can't we adhere to that,
mister and missus council member instead of this exercise where
you get to come out and say, man, things are
fine and dandy. We can spend money on reparations home repairs. People.

(36:24):
You know a grocery store in Mount Auburn or whatever,
that Rose Lawn, Save a Lot grocery store in Roseland
last time I checked Save a Lot, is is Stave
a Lot of a government run entity? That is that
a government run food store like Mandannie has in New York?
Or is that a commercial enterprise? I don't know, just
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going to have some tomorrow morning as well, but that's
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Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas five point three seven four
nine fifty five hundred. In case he missed it, Joe,

(37:37):
the Mayor's racing Los Angeles is over now. Yesterday we
weren't so sure. Votes weren't finalized, so yesterday morning at
this time, I was talking about the mayor's race in
Los Angeles. I think they were only a little over
fifty percent of the way there. But lo and behold,

(37:58):
the Democrat Canadate eight has crept up. Nythia Rahman has
crept up and surpassed Spencer Pratt, and therefore the election
has now been called.

Speaker 7 (38:10):
It is over.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Spencer Pratt is out, even though there's still I don't know,
twenty five thirty percent of the vote left account that.
I guess that's how it works in Los Angeles. Now
the governor's race, that one is not done yet. So
Steve Hilton is still in second place, and he got
Styre out there. Who you got, you know, Zave Haxavier,

(38:34):
Hobby aer Barseia, the guy who worked for Joe Biden
is I guess he's in. He's the number one guy,
and then number two is Steve Hilton. But there's still
votes to count, so so that race isn't over yet.
But even though there's still votes account now that the
Democrat is ahead in Los Angeles, then the vote is

(38:55):
now being declared over.

Speaker 7 (38:56):
Even though.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
This gal nith Ramen gave a if you've seen the
concession speech that she gave on election night. She's in tears,
absolutely crying. She can't believe it. So Spencer Pratt was
talking about this. Ramen was trailing Pratt by about forty
thousand votes on election night, but thanks to mail in
ballots that were inserted after election day, she closed the gap.

(39:23):
Nobody thought it was possible. Didn't even think it was possed.
She didn't even think it was possible. It can be
called that Ramen broke down in tears on election night,
but Spencer Pratt pointed out that anything is possible when
you gain the system. Fox Los Angeles. Fox Los Angeles

(39:48):
Matthew Seeroff noted that Ramen had a net swing of
more than forty three thousand votes since Tuesday. Pratt highlighted
the stunning similarity and the number of votes that Pratt
gained and the Los Angeles homeless population in twenty twenty five.
Forty three thousand. Huh, this is Pratt speaking. Where have
I seen that number before? He said, sharing from the

(40:11):
website for the Los Angeles Homeless Service Authority, the lead
agency and homelessness serving in Los Angeles. According to the page,
forty three thousand, six hundred and ninety nine people have
experienced homelessness on any given night in the city of
Los Angeles. So she got forty three thousand votes to

(40:32):
swing the difference. There's forty three thousand homeless people in
the city of Los Angeles, and so you've got Spencer
Pratt who's looking at that and saying coincidence. I don't
think so. The Washington Times are not the Washington Time. Yeah,
the Washington Times. I put it this way, chat GPT

(40:54):
could not find one example in American history of a
third place candidates urging days after an election to overtake
second place. Yet that is what we are seeing in
Los Angeles, with the Democrat socialist Nathia Rahman besting reality
TV star Spencer Pratt, possibly edging him out of the runoff. Well,

(41:16):
according to the AP, now that race is called, and
that's exactly what happened. For mail in ballots arriving before
the election, Karen Basset, Democrat received thirty eight percent of
the vote, mister Pratt received twenty eight percent, and Ramen
received only twenty percent. Voter turnout for Ramen on June second,

(41:37):
the day of the election, was so tepid she gave
a concessant speech in which she sobbed to her family
and friends for having failed. Then something miraculous happened to
surge in Ms Raman's popularity that was not observable before
or On June second. She collected thirty seven percent of

(41:59):
the mail in ballots that arrived after the election, a
seventeen percent surge, besting missus Bass's thirty five percent and
mister Pratt's nineteen percent. That was a nine percent drop.
So the mayor Karen Bass when all when the mail

(42:19):
in ballots started coming in, Karen Bass, who overwhelmingly won
the election, experienced a three percent drop in the mail
in votes. Pratt experienced a nine percent drop in those votes.
But somehow Ms Rahman went up seventeen percent. So you've

(42:44):
got seventeen percent and a three percent. That's a twenty
point swing. And then the nine percent with the seventeen percent,
that is a what is that? That is a twenty
a twenty five five percent swing? Am I doing that right?
Twenty six percent? A twenty six percent swing in ballance?

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Just to be clear, mail in ballots that arrived after
June second dropped for everyone except for the person Democrats
needed to defeat mister Pratt. So everyone who was in
the race, and there was more than three of them,
but everyone who was in that race, their percentage is dropped,
but only she went up. MS Bass stayed around thirty
five percent of the vote nearly the entire time. The

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only wild change was between the number two and number
three candidates. It is simply not mathematically or statistically realistic.
The left is telling us that Democrats vote late by mail,
which is certainly true, but it does not explain why
MS Rahman, who was relatively unknown, received a disproportionate share

(43:57):
of the late mail in votes while MS past numbers
remain relatively unchanged. No external event could explain explain this.
Before the election, no lead breaking scandals emerged among the candidates,
nor were there any endorsements that could have altered the
racist trajectory. However, online buzz suggested mister Pratt, an independent,

(44:20):
couldn't make the runoff to secure the number two spot
in one of the ballot drops late on election night,
mister Pratt received zero of twenty four thousand votes. Super
groc estimate estimate places those odds at less than one

(44:40):
in one trillion, So there was an election night late
night ballot drop twenty four thousand votes, not a single
vote for mister Pratt. And that's just one. And there's
some discussion about that one, about whether or not that
is true. The most concentrated batches of mail in votes

(45:04):
from is Ramen came from skid Row, where tens of
thousands of homeless people live with no address or phone
number to verify them, but they're still allowed to vote,
to vote. Ballot harvesting is legal, and it goes on
and on and on, but of course absolutely nothing to

(45:24):
see here, no fraud whatsoever. And it's it's amazing when
you and I was googling some of this stuff before,
about the about the vote totals in UH in California
and what the what the votes were, and of course
I don't have the page right here, but you read
some of the headlines from all the regular all the

(45:47):
regular suspects, right, Google puts up the CNN, NPR daily Mail,
all those things come up first, and all it says is, oh,
California still counting votes. Everyone expected. You know, it's been
a while, but it's all expected. It's all expected. Yes,
this is exactly what we expect from California. There's an

(46:10):
investigation underway. But if you can't smell the fraud here,
then you just have no idea. What is cooking six
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Speaker 7 (46:24):
You're gonna find some some war heroes you're gonna find
in our.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
Fifty five KRC detalk station. You know, you can say
what you want about the Trump administration, but when it
comes to exposing and trying to root out government waste
and fraud, I've never seen an administration like this. A
crackdown targeting Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program SNAP. We used to

(46:53):
call them food stamps, but of course you know you
can't have the stigma of having food stamps, so you
have to have your car looks like a credit card.
The SNAP program, but a targeting or i should say
a program targeting SNAP in the state of Ohio is
implicated nineteen retailers. The retailers stand accused of illegally exchanging

(47:14):
benefits for cash, alcohol, tobacco, drugs, other prohibited items. The
bus was conducted by state officials in cooperation with the
federal government. Follows the introduction of hb IE sixty three,
a state law introducing a chip enabled electronic benefit transfer
card The law aims to reduce skimming and clothing schemes. Specifically,

(47:36):
violations were uncovered in Cleveland, Cincinnati, Columbus. In one case,
a convenience store in Cleveland was accused of taking more
than fourteen thousand dollars in the illegal payment. SNAP is
the largest federal anti hunger program in the country. The
programs meant to provide low income households with monthly food

(47:58):
or monthly funds I should say commonly referred to as
food stamps to purchase eligible groceries. The head of the
United States Partner of Agriculture, Book Rollins, has been all
over this. She's been testifying in front of Congress and

(48:20):
just laying out some unbelievable statistics. And she was on
with Fox News talking about food stamp fraud and Joe,
can we hear cut number three please?

Speaker 9 (48:31):
In a letter to every governor in America, no one
had ever held the states accountable the federal government funds
the food staff program. We send hundreds of millions of
dollars a day to the states, but there'd never been
a back end accountability on how is that money getting spent.
So we asked all the states to partner with us
as time to have accountability. The Red States, of course did,

(48:53):
and with that Red state data, we found two hundred
thousand dead people getting food stamps. We found half a
million people that we're getting more than one benefit. And y'all,
this was in the Red States. The Blue States wouldn't
give us the data. They're suing us. We're in massive
litigation right now looking to cut those funds off until
they give us that data. But the fraud is so
rampant and so stunning that when the President, the Vice

(49:17):
president and our team talks about, you know, when we
can root all this fraud out, we're going to really
be able to cut the deficit, make sure we're protecting
the taxpayer, but also make sure we're protecting the families
that rely on these programs at the same time.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
And by getting the fraud out, it just continues to amaze,
at least to me anyway, just how much waste, fraud, abuse,
people simply just ripping off the system continues to be exposed.
And the Blue states that she's been talking about, they

(49:51):
have been fighting the government tooth and nail on every
single issue. Two hundred thousand dead people receiving snap benefits, Joe.
The last I checked, if you're deceased, you're really not
eating a whole lot, are you. Yeah. I think at
that point the eating pretty much comes to a stop.

(50:14):
And then the numbers are absolutely staggering. People receiving multiple
benefits and look who's ever there there are? And this
goes on with Social Security too. Right, someone in your
family passes away, they've been getting a Social Security check
for as long as you can remember. You want that
check to come rolling in. You don't report the passing

(50:37):
of your loved one to the federal government or I
guess any agency for that matter, and you let those
checks can't come rolling in. How many times have we
seen that same thing with food stamps or the EBT cards.
There's no oversight. Once these government programs starts shoveling money

(51:00):
out the door, it just keeps going and going and
going and going. And so again, say what you want
about the Trump administration. You can criticize them for or
criticize Trump for the Warren Iran. That thing is is
really get It is absolutely I'm going to talk to
Cheryl Tumbley about that in the eight o'clock out. But when,

(51:24):
at least when it comes to cracking down on fraud.
When it comes to cracking down on theft, people ripping
off the system. At least this administration, unlike any other
I have ever seen, is taking it seriously and they're
going full steam ahead. Six at fifty five KRCV talk station,

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waking up on the right, fifty five krc DE talk station.
Just rebuild my compostable coffee cup, and it doesn't make

(52:11):
the coffee taste funny.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
So I like.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Tom Holman says, more ice than ever is coming to
New York City. I just love the way he just
he just puts all this stuff in people's faces. Of course,
he got those idiots in New Jersey or outside the
detention center there complaining about the food and all the
rest of it. Tom Holmans like, hey, I sat down.
I couldn't finish it all. So Tom Holmens, Tom Holmans

(52:41):
is just one of the absolute best. And I just
I just love the way he doesn't And so many
of these people in the Trump administration, they just do
not cower and do not bow down to the usual
voices on the left who complain about every single thing.

(53:03):
And of course there's a lawsuit now talking about the
UFC fight that is going to happen on the White
House lawn. Joe, you're gonna watch that when the USC
fight comes on Saturday, June fourteenth. That's a Saturday. Are
you a USC fan at all? Do you like to
watch the fighting?

Speaker 7 (53:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (53:26):
So they've got the octagon set up out there. They've
got the huge lighting array. It towers over the White House.
It's huge, it's big. They've got seating for about forty
five hundred people. Of course, the people who don't want

(53:47):
any fun to be had are now trying to stop
this from happening. The fight is scheduled to happen on Saturday,
June point fourteenth. The lawsuit was filed in the eleventh
hour by two Virginia residents and something called the Public
Integrity Project. The plan is deeply corrupt. The event built

(54:10):
as UFC Freedom to fifty, being organized by the UFC,
whose chief executive, Dana White, is a close friend an
ally of the president. Well, that makes everything very suspicious
right there. The President is giving White and his company
what none have enjoyed before, unfettered access to the White

(54:30):
House and Lincoln Memorial to stage a private, for profit
sports event with all the promotional and branding opportunities that
accompany such access, the lawsuit argues. The suit implies in
America's two to fiftieth anniversary is not the real reason
for the fight, but instead a personal birthday celebration for

(54:53):
Trump that also promotes the UFC brand, enriching Trump and
UFCC Dana White. Trump's birthday coincides with Flag Day, a
nationwide observance commemorating the adoption of the American flag in
seventeen seventy seven. The lawsuit further argues that Trump's use

(55:15):
of the White House South Lawn to host a sporting
event and the erection of a u A fight venue,
which the White House and the Ultimate Fighting Championship call
the Claw, are illegal. In particular, the USC erecting a
ninety two foot tall, six hundred ton steel structure it

(55:36):
calls the Claw immediately adjacent adjacent to the Executive Residents
is destroying much of the South lawn in the process,
It claims, I think the lawn's going to be just fine.
The lawsuit highlights trump comments in a recent TikTok video
where he compared the Claw to the Eiffel Tower suggests

(55:59):
that he's never going to take it down. Well, of
course he did that because he did that because he
knows people like you want to complain about it. So
as like when he says how many times and he
hasn't done it that much recently, but he talks about
twenty twenty eight and he does that. He is not
going to run again, but he does it just to

(56:21):
play these idiots like the fools that they are. He
plays them like a fiddle, and of course they bite
on it. Every time we're building something in front of
the White House. It's quite attractive to some people. It's
going to have a big UFC fight on June fourteenth.
I'm looking at it. Maybe we'll never take it down.
Trump said, that's absolutely amazing. So yeah, those on the

(56:51):
left cannot abide anything that is the least bit of
fun something that And look, if this was Obama's idea,
they'd be perfectly fine with it. If Joe Biden could
ever think out of the box for a moment for
something like this, they'd be perfectly fine with it. But

(57:14):
of course they've got to sue. I certainly hope that
this judge doesn't step in and try to block this.
I hope we don't have a bunch of legal wranglings
before this happens. I just hope it's going to be
on TV because I want to see it. I'm not huge.
I've watched a few of some of the the you know,

(57:36):
some of the big name fights that were supposed to
be out there, and generally speaking, when the women fight, Joe,
you've ever seen the women fight in that thing. I
mean some of the women's fight have been some of
the most brutal that I have ever seen. And those
women getting there, man, they go toe to toe. It
is absolutely horrendous the way they are beating each other up.

(57:58):
So hopefully it'll be a good car on the fourteenth,
and I can't wait to see it. Six point thirty
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Station six thirty nine on this Tuesday morning, Dan Carroll
for Brian Thomas.

Speaker 7 (58:16):
Brian C.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
June Bepp is a doctor lives out in Colorado. I've
had him as a guest many times on my on
my shows Down the Hallway, and he's a regular contributor
to American Thinker, and he's writing about a warning that
is happening right there in his backyard in Colorado, and
he talks about the empty classrooms, or a warning for America.

(58:38):
Colorado colleges are bracing for what education experts call an
enrollment cliff. Fewer high school graduates mean fewer college applicants,
shrinking tuition revenue, budget cuts, mergers, even campus closures. The
same phenomena is unfolding nationwide. After years of warnings the
demographic the demographic reckoning has arrived. According to recent Colorado

(59:01):
education data, public school enrollment fell by more than ten
thousand students this year, the state's largest decline since the pandemic.
State officials point to a simple explanation. There are fewer children.
Birth rates have been declining for years, and those missing
children are now missing students. Many analysts trace the problem

(59:22):
to the two thousand and eight financial crisis. As economic
uncertainty grew, American's postponed marriage, delayed having children, or chose
to have fewer children. Altogether, eighteen years later, right on schedule,
colleges are seeing the predictable consequences. That explanation is correct,
but incomplete. The enrollment cliff itself was largely set in

(59:43):
motion two decades ago, but instead of addressing the underlying
cause of declining family formation, policymakers have spent the last
twenty years making them worse. Colorado provides a revealing case study.
In two thousand and eight, the Media and Denver area
home price was about a third of what it is
today two hundred and twenty five thousand dollars then six

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hundred ten thousand dollars today. Colorado was once a magnet
for young families. Affordable housing, good schools, abundant jobs, high
quality of life attracted newcomers from across the country. Today,
many of those same advantages are eroding. The state remains
desirable but increasingly expensive, particularly for young adults contemplating marriage,

(01:00:27):
home ownership, and children. Housing costs of dramatically outpaced wage growth.
Young adults face not only higher mortgage payments, but restoring rents,
childcare expenses, insurance premiums, property taxes, fees, utility costs. Starting
a family increasingly feels like a luxury good or a
vacation home. How are Colorado's responding? They are leaving for

(01:00:50):
green of pastures. For the first time in twenty years,
more people left Colorado to go to other states than
moved here from elsewhere in the country one hundred more so,
he points out an issue here that is happening in
many areas where people have for the past twenty years

(01:01:12):
elected one Democrat liberal Democrat politician after another. Things get
to the point where they can't take it anymore, and
then they move elsewhere and continue to vote for left,
far left Democrat politicians. And this has happened time and
time again all over the country. Politicians frequently express concern

(01:01:35):
about declining birth rates while simultaneously supporting policies that increase
the cost of living. Every new tax, fee, regulatory mandate,
housing restriction ultimately land somewhere. Increasingly, it lands on young families.
Denver public schools officials themselves cite housing affordability as a
significant factor in the decline and enrollment. Families with children

(01:01:59):
are increasingly priced out of many neighborhoods. Then came the Wuhan,
he says COVID, But I say wuhan. The educational damage
from prolonged school closers is still being measured. While graduate
rates have recovered and even improved statistically, many students disengaged
from traditional education during the lockdown years. Some shifted to homeschooling,

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Others moved to online alternatives. Some never fully reconnected with
the educational system at all. Colorado continues to see growth
in alternative education pathways while traditional enrollment declines. Parents learned
an important lesson during the Wuhan. School systems need families
more than families need school systems. The result is fewer

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students in traditional classrooms and growing financial stress on institutions
built around perpetual enrollment growth. Clemson is one point five
billion dollars in debt. Syracuse is closing or pausing nine
twenty three programs. UNC Chapel Hill plans to cut spending

(01:03:04):
by eighty nine million dollars over three years. Duke recently
let six hundred employees go in a three hundred and
fifty million dollar budget cut. Indiana Public College has announced
a plan to eliminate or merge five hundred eighty programs statewide.
These institutions did not suddenly become less capable. They built budget,

(01:03:25):
staffing levels, facilities around demographic assumptions that are no longer true.
For decades, colleges believe that more students would always arrive.
New administrators were hired diversity bureaucracies expanded, campus amenities multiplied,
tuition rose relentlessly. Now the supply of students is shrinking,

(01:03:46):
the business model is under pressure. At the same time,
confidence in higher education has declined as tuition rises faster
than inflation, while many graduates leave campus burdened with debt
and degrees offering uncertain at conomic returns. And I mean,
and this piece just goes on to point out the

(01:04:06):
demographic realities that we are seeing now with and then
that that's a subject I haven't talked about a ton.
I don't know how much Brian Thomas has talked about it,
but the shrinking birth rates here in the United States
are going to come back to haunt us in many,
many ways. And this education cliff, the enrollment cliff, and

(01:04:29):
especially in higher education, is going to be something that's
going to need to be dealt with in a serious way.
And I don't know that we really have the people
in place to do that. Six for six at fifty
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That's got to be one of the greatest song intros
of all time. Or Radar Love Streker, you just put
him right at my wheelhouse. Brother, I love this stuff.
But just to finish up on the piece I saw
again about with Brian Jundepp. Here he talks about the
response from many policymakers. Then this is about the declining

(01:05:34):
birth rates and how all this is being felt in
universities and elsewhere Right now, the response from many policymakers
has been predictable. Import more people immigration can increase population numbers.
It cannot automatically create social cohesion, economic productivity, or cultural stability,
as is evident in many Western countries. Unfettered immigration produces

(01:05:57):
the opposite. Across America, europolitical leaders increasingly appear to view
immigration as a substitute for declining native birth rates.

Speaker 5 (01:06:05):
It is not.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
A nation cannot substantially replace its future workforce by importing
non assimilating and culturally disruptive populations while simultaneously discouraging its
own citizens from forming families. The demograph of demographic crisis
extends beyond economics. For years, young Americans have been bombarded

(01:06:29):
with apocalyptic messages. They are told the planet is on
the verge of climate catastrophe. They hear predictions that future
generations will inherit an unlivable world. Active some activists openly
argue that having children is environmentally irresponsible. When people are
repeatedly told that the lack or that the future is bleak,

(01:06:51):
some begin acting accordingly. Fewer marriages, fewer children, more social isolation.
Then society wonders why fertility rates collapse. The irony is
striking the same political and cultural institutions that express alarm
about declining school enrollment, labor shortages, demographic decline often support

(01:07:12):
the very policies and narratives that contribute to those outcomes.
Colorado's shrinking classrooms are not merely an educational story. They
are a warning sign. Empty desks today become unfulfilled jobs tomorrow.
Fewer workers mean slower economic growth. Fewer tax payers mean

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an increasing strain on entitlement programs. Fewer families mean weaker communities.
No civilization prospers by producing fewer children generation after generation.
Importing students or cheap labor may temporarily fill the gap,
but the cost is the loss of social cohesion and

(01:07:53):
a shared purpose with eventual balkanization. The enrollment cliff is
not the disease, it is the symptom. The deeper problem
is a society that has steadily made family formation more difficult,
more expensive, and less culturally valued. Eighteen years ago, Americans
had fewer children. Today colleges are discovering what that means.

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Demographic decline is Unlike most policy failures, what took a
generation to create cannot be fixed by the next election cycle.
The real question is whether policymakers are willing to learn
the lesson before the next demographic cliff arrives. And that
is Brian Jundef. He's an optimologist in Colorado, travels the world,

(01:08:43):
just has a great insight and has just been an
outstanding guest on some of the shows that I have had.
Speaking of guests, my next guest coming up after the
news here at the top of the hour is Daniel Turner,
Power the Future, and I've got a number of things
to talk We've got a number of things to talk
to all these guests about today, as we talked to
Daniel Turner at seven oh five, and then Tom z

(01:09:07):
Owistowski at the bomb of the hour, Cheryl Chumley at eight,
and then Adam Kaylor of Cincinnati Exchange at eight thirty.
So a lot going on and I hope you can
stick around for it. It's Dan Carroll and for Brian
Thomas on fifty five KRC the Talk Station. We put
the app in happening, but that's what's happening station seven

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o five on this Tuesday morning, fifty five KRC The
Talk Station and Carroll for Brian Thomas. I always look
forward when I get a chance to talk to this
guy as we kick off our guests that we've got
this morning. Daniel Turner as the founder executive director of
Power of the Future. He lives in rural Virginia where

(01:09:56):
he's got a sheep farm, got some cows and dogs
and all kinds of animals out there. And Daniel Turner,
I know getting up at seven o'clock in the morning
is no big deal for you. How you doing this morning, Dan?

Speaker 4 (01:10:07):
It's great to be on your program any time of
the hour.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
I appreciate that. I'm looking at your website and I
see video of you on set the other day with
Stuart Varney, so that's kind of a big deal. How
is Stuart Varney? Seems like a really smart guy. How's
he feeling about the economy right now?

Speaker 5 (01:10:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
I love going on his program.

Speaker 4 (01:10:28):
I love Thoughts business because I like looking at a
lot of these issues of just their impact on the market.
Politics as a whole is great, right, Politics is fine,
and we can always talk about it, but ultimately we
have to invest and grow our portfolios and pay our bills.
And so I do love a Stuart Show for that reason.
You know, what he's marveling at, which a lot of

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us are, is that despite three months of this ongoing
conflict in Iran, the economy still seems pretty darn resilient.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:10:57):
We added one hundred and seventy thousand jobs last month.
You know, inflation ticked up a little bit, but we're still,
you know, a quarter of where it was into the
Biden administration, So inflation is still very manageable. The price
of gas is definitely a pain, no one's going to
deny it, and it's way higher than anyone.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Wants it to be.

Speaker 4 (01:11:18):
But the economy is still chugging along, and it's a
great sign of resilience of.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
The American economy overall.

Speaker 10 (01:11:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
I think about the early days of the Trump administration
the second time around, and almost on a daily basis,
there was one announcement after another. You've got all these
different companies that announced these multi billion dollar investments. You
made the trip to Saudi Arabia, came back with all
kinds of investment pledges there that all that was going

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to happen in the United States of America despite what's
happening in Iran right now, all those things are still
moving forward, are they.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
Not, absolutely?

Speaker 4 (01:11:57):
You know, and the investment is still taking off. The
repatriation of so many jobs, especially manufacturing jobs, is still happening.
I mean, just look at what Elon Musk is building.
He's building, you know, companies for ships, companies for transformers.
He alone is creating thousands of really good working class jobs,

(01:12:19):
just building his own factories for his own companies. Right,
we need transformers for my rocket company.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
I don't want to buy him in.

Speaker 4 (01:12:26):
China, so I'll build my own transformer company. I build
my own chips company. And that's happening across the board.
The automotive industry is making huge investments in American manufacturing.
People are going to say, well, yeah, they're doing that because.

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
Of the tariffs.

Speaker 4 (01:12:38):
Okay, I'll take it, right. I don't want to make
cars in Mexico, no offense to Mexico. Figure out your
own day in economy. I don't want to sacrifice American
auto manufacturing jobs to help your economy. I want to
build my economy. So to see even the investment of
the automotive industry putting more money into their plants in America,
expanding their production in America, I think it's all a

(01:13:00):
great time.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
So when you talk about what's going on with Iran
right now, the straight of Horror moves and all the
rest of that, I just have this sense that that
that thing is just a giant boulder, that is that
is weighing on our economy as a whole. I'm not
only here in the United States but across the world.
And if we can just get that thing squared away,

(01:13:23):
then things are really going to start moving. As you
look at the situation relative to Iran right now, what
do you think the best case scenario is for moving
forward there?

Speaker 4 (01:13:35):
You know, we're paying this death by a thousand paper
cuts game, and Iran knows that they know that this
is painful for the American family, right with the really
high utility bills, high gas bills, that's ultimately trickling down
into the price of food, price of goods, and they're
just biding their time. You know, we could end the

(01:13:56):
Iran situation tomorrow if we wanted to just go in
and carpet bomb, but the President doesn't want to do that.
You know, he hasn't touched their actual oil and gas
infrastructure because he wants them with a new regime, with
a democratic government. He wants them to rebuild their economy.
He also wants to control the world's oil and gas
supply so that we don't have more rans in the future. Right,

(01:14:18):
we don't have more Iatolas in the future. We don't
have more Ugo in the future. So he strategically hasn't
gone in willy nilly and just bombed the crap out
of the place. There's a frustration that people want him
to do that, but you know, he's going to need
the Iranian people to rebuild their economy and take back
their nation, and destroying them all and killing them all

(01:14:40):
isn't going to help with that. So it is a
huge burden on the economy once it is lifted. I
think prices will fall precipitously. We're not there yet, and
markets have hinted at it. Right the data President announces
that the ceasefire has been tentatively agreed to, oil prices
will drop ten dollars about all that day. The markets

(01:15:01):
want to get back to stable pricing, but a rand
knows that every time they decide to do a little
something or another.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
Oil prices tick back up.

Speaker 4 (01:15:11):
The president gets the bad headlines and we're back to
square zero. So, uh, it's a game of chicken right now.
And I guess you know, every game of chicken is
who flinches first, and the president has not yet flinched.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
Yeah, it is. It is so frustrating too, and it's
exhausting Daniel turning to try and keep up with all
the daily comings and goings of what's happening. Are the negotiations,
There aren't negotiations. We're close to a deal. We're not
close to a deal. The regular everyday American person, it's
impossible to be able to keep up. Even with all

(01:15:44):
the flow of information we have right now, with the
Internet and whatnot, it's impossible to keep up with it all.
So it's uh, it's yeah, yeah, it's just it's just
a horrible thing that that really threatens now because we
are getting ever closer to the election, and so these

(01:16:05):
two things are going to have an intersection, I think,
and it's really I think going to it's it's such
just a huge available tool for the left and the
Democrats to use against Trump in the midterm elections. And
I don't know how the average voter is going to

(01:16:26):
be able to look beyond that to say there are
good things happening here despite what's happening with Iran. And
this thing could really wind up be in a millstone
around the neck of this administration.

Speaker 4 (01:16:40):
And I think, you know, the President is well aware
of that, but I get the impression that weighing all
of the different scenarios and weighing all of the intelligence,
he has decided this is still the best course of
action for our country. You know, I tell people all
the time, We've paid it. We're paying a huge price
for this war, as the Democrats called President's war of Choice.

(01:17:01):
We're paying a huge price. We're paying a huge price.
We've been paying a huge price for Iran for forty
seven years. Right now, just go to the airport, Right,
why are you taking off your shoes in your belt?
Why are you getting groped by TSA agents? It's because
terrorism is funded by Iran. Right, go to a baseball game.
Why do you have to go through metal detectors? Why
do you have to have a bag search? Because terrorism
is funded by Iran. Every little you know ied twice

(01:17:26):
in New York City. In the same week, two IEDs
were thrown at Jewish crowds. That's funded by Iran. Right,
we've gotten so complacent with the fact that we have
to live under this constant threat of terrorism that it
just becomes part and parcel of our Oh well, you know,
ain't got to get there early to go through security.
Wouldn't it be great if there were no security. Wouldn't
it be great if we didn't have to worry about

(01:17:47):
the threat of Muslim terrorists. I understand that Democrat presidential
candidates are going to capitalize on this for political purposes,
but secretly, and they're just too chicken to admit it,
they love this because they will inherit a world where
this is one less thing that they have to worry about.
Past presidents give us boondoggles, right. President Obama gave us

(01:18:11):
his legacy of Obamacare boondoggle, and someone has to fix it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
Biden gave us the open border boondoggle.

Speaker 4 (01:18:18):
Someone has to fix it. President Trump is fixing something
going into the future, you know, and the next president
God willing won't have to have at the presidential debate,
Dan Carroll, looking at Iran, if you were the president,
what steps would you take to ensure with some bs
made up, rehearsed answer for the fifteen second.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
SoundBite, maybe Iran is gone.

Speaker 4 (01:18:40):
Maybe we don't have to worry about obviously not the country,
the terrorist threat is gone. That's a great thing to
think about of solving problems for the long term rather
than just continuing to perpetuate the misery. So, yeah, Democrats
are going to capitalize on this moment and it's probably
going to help them. But the next president will have

(01:19:01):
one less thing to worry about, and by god, shouldn't
that be the goal of the American president to make
life better for the next group coming in?

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
Yeah, but see what you just did right there. And
that's one of the reasons I love to have you
on is because you take the next step beyond what
just the headline is. And when it comes to politics
in this country, when it comes to the messages of
people here, it hardly ever goes beyond the headline. And
when you look at this situation with that kind of clarity,

(01:19:30):
I think it brings it, it really brings it into perspective,
Daniel Turner, we got to get to a quick break.
Stay right there and we'll continue on in a jiffy.
As we talk with Daniel Turner here on fifty five
krc DE talk station, keep.

Speaker 6 (01:19:43):
Listening for the next chance to win your way to.

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
Our high station. Fifty five KRCV talk station, continuing our
conversation with Daniel Turner, A Power of the Future. Daniel Turner,
one more question about Iran, and then I want to
talk about the seven hundred million dollars for coal here
in the United States. But the other component as it
relates to Iran, is the nuclear dust, the remaining you

(01:20:09):
riched in radium that you have there, and somehow, I
guess we want to bring that back to the United States,
examine it, get rid of it, whatever the case may be.
How complex is that. It's not like you just scoop
it into a five gallon bucket and put a lid
on it and bring it back to real estate. It
doesn't really work that way, doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
No, it doesn't.

Speaker 4 (01:20:32):
It's incredibly complex, obviously doable. You know, we run already
the America runs the world's largest nuclear arsenal, and it's
called our military, right and every one of our submarines
and destroyers and aircraft carriers all run on nuclear power.
So we do have an incredible fleet of talented nuclear

(01:20:54):
technicians who know exactly how to do this. So it's complicated,
but it is far from impossible. It's also the reason
why I constantly remind people not to be afraid of nuclear.
You know, you hear the word nuclear and everyone jumps
to you know, these images of Chernobyl and they say
how dangerous it is. You know, right now, we have
a few million eighteen year olds who are bunking on
top of a nuclear reactor and they seem to be fine, right,

(01:21:18):
And they're eight months underwater in a submarine, literally sleeping
on top of the nuclear reactor, and everything is going
hunky dory. So we should never be afraid of nuclear.
And we've got really capable nuclear capabilities and tech and
and and expertise, so we can resolve this pretty quickly.

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
All right, Well, we will see if that comes to pass.
The other big article on your website Power of the Future,
is the seven hundred million dollar boost that relates to coal.
What exactly is that is really a seven hundred million
dollar injection into the coal industry. Is that really enough
to get whatever results are desired here?

Speaker 4 (01:21:59):
Yeah, this is a huge start. And this is you know,
this is the use of the Defense Production Act to
keep these these a couple of coal plants afloat.

Speaker 2 (01:22:09):
And what happened is right.

Speaker 4 (01:22:11):
And this goes back to the early Obama years when
Barack Obama, when Senator Obama was running for president, and
he said, you know, I'm not going to make coal illegal,
but I'll tell you this. If you have a coal
plant and by president, you know, you're going to go bankrupts, right,
And everyone applauded and said, hey, isn't that great what
we've done. What the what the Democrats like to do

(01:22:33):
is that they like to create regulations that just make
it impossible to have what legally you used to have yesterday.
So if the new permit is is why tomorrow, the
permit is why plus five and you're the coal plants
and you say, well I can't achieve.

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
That goal, well too bad.

Speaker 4 (01:22:48):
Then I guess you have to go out of business
or you have to pay these exorbitant fines, and then
the plant becomes inoperable because of the fines are so
exorbitant that they have to show down, and then people
like Barack Obama and Joe Biden have the gall to.

Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
Say, hey, that was shut down for financial reasons.

Speaker 4 (01:23:06):
Those coal plants were not making any money.

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
It's because coal is expensive. Right.

Speaker 4 (01:23:10):
It's like if every time you bought a Big Mac
you had to pay an extra ten dollars, and then
the people at the Whopper were like, well, let's look
at that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
I mean, the Whopper is just so expensive no.

Speaker 4 (01:23:19):
One can afford it. Well, yeah, government put a damn
tax on the big Mac, right, so there's nothing to
brag about. That's exactly what they did to the coal industry.
So this seven hundred million dollars is helping we calibrate
that coal has kept our nation alive for one hundred
and forty years. This last winter storm that we had
that that was really pretty bad in the on the

(01:23:41):
East coast, coal is what continued to work. Our coal,
our solar plants, where our solar farms were under snow,
Our wind turbines were not blowing because they don't work
in negative temperatures. Right, it was coal that kept Americans alive.
We need coal desperately. There is nothing you can look
if you just scan around your room right now, or

(01:24:02):
your car, wherever you are. There is nothing you can
look at that was not touched by coal. Coal makes
everything we need cold desperately. And so this is President
Trump just acknowledging the fact that we burn cole very
responsibly here in America, with none of the pollution, none
of the drawbacks, none of the emissions that the crazy
left has convinced us of. Coal is absolutely essential, so

(01:24:25):
let's celebrate it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:26):
Coal is essential. So let's celebrate that. And with that,
Daniel Turner, we will let you go. As always, I
appreciate the time, and I'll look forward to seeing more
appearances on Fox Business News if people want to find
out more about you, where do they do that?

Speaker 4 (01:24:41):
Always a pleasure to be with you, Dan Howerthefuture dot
Com and great to be with you, and hope.

Speaker 5 (01:24:45):
You have a great day.

Speaker 1 (01:24:45):
Daniel Turner, Thank you so much. Have a great day,
my friend, and we hopefully will be talking again before
too long. Seven twenty five and we've got Tom Zewistowski
coming up next here on fifty five krc V talk station.

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Speaker 12 (01:25:12):
But talking about the people who built this nation that
we are so privileged to live in, that to me
is the best way to celebrate this year.

Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
You know, since you brought that up, what do you
make of all these different performers that were asked to
be part of the two hundred and fiftieth celebration and
then they decided, well, it's too political. When did that happen?
When did that happen that it's just to say happy
birthday America becomes a political statement.

Speaker 7 (01:25:38):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:25:39):
I remember it was back during the Colin Kaepernick days
and you know, he was taking a knee, and it
had all these perceived grievances whatever the case may be,
and the issue came about, you know, that people didn't
want to stand for the American flag, and I said,
you know what, displaying the American flag should be the
least political act that you can do, because aren't we

(01:26:00):
saying that if we are displaying the flag or showing
our love for country that by doing that, we're recognizing, yes,
we have political differences, but there's something bigger than our
politics that binds us all together because in the end,
hopefully we all want what's best for America. But by
saying that's a political statement, I think it shows an underlying,

(01:26:25):
an underlying motive for something else that is going on there.

Speaker 12 (01:26:30):
Well, yeah, and I mean unfortunately, I think if the
underhanging motive is an anti American sentiment, you know, these
people who've been indoctrinated and convinced that, you know, this country,
we're not like what Barack Obama say, We're not exceptional.
You know, we're not better than anybody else. Well, if
we're not exceptional, when I put on anybody else, how
come the whole entire freaking world wants to come here.

(01:26:52):
That that lies your your your propaganda, and the other
part of it. What you're really touching on is the
idea of America. It's not whether we've fulfilled it or
not to your personal opinion, right, your personal the desires.
It's the idea of America that people can self govern,

(01:27:14):
that people can be responsible for their own lives, that
government should be limited.

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
That's what we're.

Speaker 7 (01:27:20):
Celebrating, but you don't hear them talking about it.

Speaker 12 (01:27:24):
And that's what the problem is because people have lost
they think the country's politics.

Speaker 7 (01:27:30):
The country is not politics all.

Speaker 12 (01:27:31):
A matter of fact, our founders built the organizational structure,
you know, townships and counties and states and all that
to make government the smallest it has ever been in
the history of the world because they knew government is
not good. You don't want big government, and we've kind
of messed that up in a big way and are
trying to work our way back. But it's the idea

(01:27:53):
of America that you should be talking about. And they
have the values and the and then the achievements. Like
I said, I mean, go to weed people Convention dot org.
There's a button on there that says two and fifty
the anniversary, Celebrate and you'll see this banner that we
made that shows like pictures of you know, the space
shuttle and the iPhone and the locomotive and all the

(01:28:14):
achievements that America brought to the world.

Speaker 7 (01:28:17):
That's what we're celebrating, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:28:19):
And what you're saying right there was driven home earlier
this year when there's a an initiative that was put
out by the Department of Education, and then you had
the Secretary of Education, Linda McMahon, and they were going
to go to one school in every state, one tom
one school in every state and bring a America two

(01:28:40):
fifty program to that school, and they were going to
talk about things like what like citizenship, about civic responsibility,
about you know, what makes America great. And so we
had a school. One of those schools, the one school
in Ohio was right here, Forest Hill School District, and
the the there were some parents that found out about

(01:29:03):
this and said, you know what, we can't have this
in our school. We can't have the one school in
the state was going to come here, have this celebration,
give these kids a great educational opportunity. But yet the
school system said, no, that's too political. We can't have
that in our school. So that way of thinking is

(01:29:24):
ingrained into so many people, even at the local level.
And that's what you know, you know, your buddy Andrew
PAPIs talks about it all the time. That's why you
got to pay attention to your local elections because these
are the kind of consequences that you.

Speaker 12 (01:29:37):
Get absolutely right, and it shows you, you know, really
the failure of those people to the ideas of America
and live up to them by saying, I don't care
what the parents say.

Speaker 7 (01:29:51):
You know, this is our country. These students need to
know this and we've got to do it.

Speaker 12 (01:29:56):
And you know, that's the problem with just you know,
everybody can you know, wh two people can complain and
you shut down the concert, right, you know, that's just wrong.
We're supposed to be majority rule, but protection for the minority. Unfortunately,
we've moved into a world where it's minority rule and
that's chaos and that's why we're struggling.

Speaker 1 (01:30:15):
All right, Tom, stay right there. We got to get
to a quick break and we will continue on with
Tom Zowastowski of We the People Convention dot Org on
fifty five KRCV.

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Speaker 1 (01:30:30):
The talk station fifty five KRC the talk station. The
website is We the People Convention dot Org. The man
behind it is Tom Zowastowski, and here is our guest
this morning on fifty five KRC. All right, Tom acts,

(01:30:50):
the property tax, I know is something that you've been
talking about quite a bit. I'm reading here that it
has fallen short to be on the November the twenty sixth,
the November of twenty twenty six ballot. So where do
things stand now with the idea of axing the property
tax in Alile.

Speaker 12 (01:31:11):
Yeah, they had a press conference to announce that, you know,
they they're not going to make you know, they were
trying to get six hundred and thirty thousand signatures so
they would have the four hundred and fifteen valid signatures,
and people don't understand that. That's part of the problem
with these constitutional amendments is you've got to get a
lot more signatures than you need because people, you know,

(01:31:31):
fill out the wrong name or they're just you know,
they're just kind of placating you to sign it, and
the boards of elections throw those out, and so, you know,
they just weren't going to make it, and you know,
we predicted that. It's I'm one of the few people
alive in Ohio today who actually passed the constitutional amendment.
I was the head of the Ohio Liberty Coalition when

(01:31:52):
we finally passed the Ohio Healthcare Amendment back in twenty eleven,
and I know how hard it is. So the first
thing I want to say, Dan, I want to say
thank you to all of you listening who made the
effort to collect singers. You collected over three hundred thousand signatures.
People don't understand what an amazing effort that is and

(01:32:12):
how patriotic that is.

Speaker 7 (01:32:14):
And you did another thing by doing that.

Speaker 12 (01:32:16):
You didn't maybe even to get in a ballot, but
you've kept this issue top of mind, and you've scared
the crap out of most of the people in the
legislature and in the Ohio government because they need to
understand they took way too much of our money when
they increased property taxes by thirty percent over a couple

(01:32:36):
of years, and they've got to address that.

Speaker 7 (01:32:38):
So that's now where the battleships. How do we address that?

Speaker 1 (01:32:43):
How do what is your answer when so many say
that the local governments, whether they be townships, municipalities, county governments,
rely so heavily on property taxes for a major source
of their funding, how do you go about replacing that
or finding other ways to to get that funding to

(01:33:05):
those local municipala, those local governments.

Speaker 12 (01:33:08):
Yeah, so from a constitutional standpoint and from the tea
Party viewpoint, which is my background, you know, as a
Tea Party leader. You know, we we've always felt that
property taxes are the worst tax you can have because
it's it's you know, you can't just buy your.

Speaker 7 (01:33:23):
Home and own it. You just got to keep lease
of it from the government. And you can see that.

Speaker 12 (01:33:30):
And he's doing a heck of a job at Florida
and they're going to get rid of it. It's happening
around the country. We will get that done here. But
the question is how do you do it. And the
problem with the axual house tax of just cold boom,
it's all gone, cancel all of it, and you do
that in the November election and then they have to
implement it by January. There was tremendous chaos that that

(01:33:53):
would cost. So what I've talked to vivik Ramaswami Rob
McCauley about and presented them with is a form of
property taxes as a first major step, and that reform
package starts with we roll back everyone's property taxes to
twenty twenty before these big increases happened. The second step

(01:34:14):
of that was to control these local governments and particularly
school boards and school systems from adding property taxes on
by doing two things, and the legislator is already acted
on the first one. Our property taxes were attached to
property value, and what happened is our property values went up,
and that's why our taxes went up. The legislature has

(01:34:36):
moved to tie it to inflation, not property value, so
that twenty percent inside millage number that people don't really understand,
that slows way down when you tie it to three
percent inflation. The second part is the outside millage, which
is when your fire department, of your library.

Speaker 7 (01:34:57):
Even says we need more money.

Speaker 12 (01:34:59):
Let's put a ballot initiative on for the next election,
and instead of a fifty percent vote, let's make it
a sixty percent vote so that some of the community
has to buy into it in a big way before
you tax everybody with a fifty one percent vote. And
then two more things, two more things. The problem in
Ohio is we're a very old state. When I was

(01:35:21):
doing the research for Avek and Rob and those guys,
I was looking at, let's, you know, let's give seniors,
you know, a break on property taxes.

Speaker 7 (01:35:29):
Holy cowder, we have a lot of seniors.

Speaker 8 (01:35:32):
We have like sixty percent of our homes are owned
by people's sixty five or older.

Speaker 1 (01:35:36):
How about that?

Speaker 12 (01:35:37):
So, so the deal is this though what we've we've
talked about and they've actually done analysis on it. We
think this reform package could not only roll it back
for everybody, okay, but then it would exempt anyone who's
sixty five or older who's been in their home for
fifteen years or more from ever paying property taxes on
that property again as long.

Speaker 7 (01:35:57):
As they're there.

Speaker 12 (01:35:58):
And we think that would be a huge benefit for
Ohio because we have so many seniors living on social
Security and things of that nature.

Speaker 7 (01:36:05):
And so the you know, here's the key component.

Speaker 12 (01:36:07):
Then this is the thing that I talked about this
and no one understands the real goal.

Speaker 7 (01:36:13):
Behind property tax reform. Is it really saving you money
in your property taxes. It's reforming our bloated local government.

Speaker 12 (01:36:22):
What this reform package would do instead of like wiping
out your township's budget, your fire department, you know, taking
it from you know to down to zero, what it
would do is give every government entergy in Ohio like
a nine percent haircut.

Speaker 7 (01:36:37):
Now what does that do?

Speaker 12 (01:36:38):
That forces you to look at how do we save money?
How do we combine programs. How do we bring in
AI to do our accounting and saves the money. How
do we go from six hundred and forty freaking school
districts to maybe eighty eight and save like one hundred
and fifty billion dollars a year?

Speaker 7 (01:36:55):
Okay?

Speaker 12 (01:36:56):
That forced reform is what I've tried to sell to
the theay because he's campaigning on reform. He's going to
make our schools the best. Our business is manufacturing the best.
Are you know energy the best? Like you say, the
bank We learned from DOGE. If you don't take their
money away, they won't reform at all.

Speaker 1 (01:37:15):
But Tom, when you talk when you talk about when
you talk about doing those kinds of things, that takes
actual hard work, and people in an elective office are
are not interested in lifting a finger when it comes
to hard work like that. Wait, we got a break
real quick. Can you stick for one more segment? All right,
stay right there, We'll get right back to Tom z

(01:37:36):
Oastowski on fifty five KRC The Talk Station.

Speaker 9 (01:37:38):
Join John Roullman with kep From on fifty.

Speaker 1 (01:37:40):
Five KRS the Talk Station. Just a couple of minutes
left here with Tom Zoastowski of we the People Convention
dot Org. Tom, what did you make of the FBI
announcement last week where they came in and talked about
the medicaid for announced they had made a number of

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arrests thirty million dollars worth of fraud. The number keeps
getting bigger and bigger the more you look at it.
And then lo and behold, we've got the administration talking about, well,
we've combined our resources and we're working with the DOJ
now to crack down on all this fraud that's been
going on for decades that was simply appeared to have

(01:38:22):
been turned a blind eye to up until this this
DOJ announcement where they came out and actually decided to
do something about it.

Speaker 7 (01:38:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:38:32):
I watched that press conference and it was it was impressive.
The DOJ people, you know, FBI, you know doctor Oz,
all those guys.

Speaker 7 (01:38:40):
You know it because it is the right move.

Speaker 12 (01:38:43):
But the question I asked on my podcast is, yeah,
so why wasn't this done before, you know, for the
last eight years of Republican control of everything?

Speaker 7 (01:38:52):
And they really did a great job at that.

Speaker 8 (01:38:54):
Presscus of naming every Republican you're running for office about
how they've been so operative, and they're doing this and
they're doing that.

Speaker 7 (01:39:02):
But you know, we got to get to the bottom
of why the heck did it happen?

Speaker 12 (01:39:07):
And I saw Dave Yost talked about he reported it
multiple times. We've had the Speaker of the House, Matt Huffman,
say they passed legislation like eleven or thirteen piece of
legislation trying to fix it, and the Wine vetoed it. Well, okay,
that's what Walls did in Minneapolis, right, that's what what
the their age you did in Minnesota.

Speaker 7 (01:39:29):
Is Mike the Wine going to be on the hook?

Speaker 12 (01:39:32):
How can he not be on the hook if he
vetoed things that would have fixed this. I think the
story's got to be you told about how this happened,
not just what we're going to do to fix it.

Speaker 7 (01:39:43):
I haven't heard enough of that, have you?

Speaker 1 (01:39:45):
Absolutely not? I have not. And this notion that and
when you hear about these task force and all these
people running for cover and say, hey, uh, you know
we did this, this, this, and this, well, then then
this should if that's true. You may have known about it,
but there wasn't any action taken. There was no steps taken,

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and it wasn't that long ago that the governor was
suggesting that it's racist to suggest that we've got, you know,
a certain population that is big on ripping off the
federal government and Ohio taxpayers to the tunes of millions
of dollars. And I think we were also told that
there's nothing to see here and everything is under control.

(01:40:27):
So it you know what the reality is. It doesn't
jibe with the earlier statements, and I think we need
a reckoning on that.

Speaker 7 (01:40:36):
We must demand it.

Speaker 8 (01:40:37):
We the taxpayers must demand, particularly in Ohio quote unquote
a red state, that we get to the bottom because
if it's happening here, oh my god, what's that like?

Speaker 1 (01:40:47):
But you just said a red state, and you would
think we should expect better from those who are in
those positions to be able to do something about it.
And it certainly appears. Look, I think David Yost is
great and and all the rest of them up there,
but it certainly looks like they dropped the ball on
this one, and if they did, they need to own it.

Speaker 7 (01:41:07):
Yeah. The grades an F you got, an F you failed.
That's the bottom line.

Speaker 1 (01:41:10):
All right, Tom. If people want to find out more
about you, where do they do that.

Speaker 12 (01:41:14):
We're on x at tom ZWTPC and I post on
Getter and True Social at tom ZWTPC and pretty much
all those places. But go to We the People Convention
dot orgon particularly watch our podcast. We do it once
a week. It's a weekly news summary. You'll learn a
lot from that.

Speaker 1 (01:41:31):
All right, we got to run, But do me a
favor and get that picture of Paul Krugman off your website.
He's a miserable human being.

Speaker 8 (01:41:39):
I don't need to see his member forget. That means
why we are all going to vote in November. Play
that video over and over again. Tom, you're the best man.
Great talking to you, and we'll do it again before long.

Speaker 1 (01:42:02):
Fifty five krc DE Talk Station, Good morning eight o
five On this Tuesday morning, June the ninth, Dan Carol
for Brian Thomas had a couple of great guests on already,
and it is my pleasure to welcome in my next guest.
I always love a chance to talk with Cheryl Chumley.

(01:42:22):
And Cheryl Chumley is the online opinion editor for the
Washington Times. She's an author, speaker, does all kinds of stuff,
has a podcast called Bold and Blunt, and Cheryl Chumley.
Good morning. It's great to have you on fifty five
KRC Dan.

Speaker 10 (01:42:37):
Good morning to you.

Speaker 6 (01:42:38):
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:42:39):
Thank you. There is so many things to talk about,
so little time.

Speaker 7 (01:42:44):
Are you.

Speaker 1 (01:42:45):
Are you happy that you've been assured by Gavin Newsom,
Adam Schiff, Nancy Pelosi that there's no funny business whatsoever
going on in the election there in California? All right?

Speaker 7 (01:42:57):
Are you.

Speaker 1 (01:42:59):
Able to sleep knowing that that election is as pure
as the wind driven snow?

Speaker 10 (01:43:04):
Yeah? Because you know if they say so, then it
must be true. And you can trust Democrats because you
know they're all about the fair elections. They're the ones
that are pushing the Save Act, for instance in Congress.
So yeah, this is really curious, and a lot of
a lot of people are coming out and pining in
and showing statistically that the vote count now for this

(01:43:27):
socialist candidate who's come up from nowhere and unknown really
and taken over the second the second slot statistically, mathematically,
it's impossible. So we'll see how the stories finally turns out.

Speaker 1 (01:43:42):
Yeah, your colleague Kelly Sadler wrote an excellent piece on that,
and I actually read it earlier this morning, and as
she lays out, just it is the notion that and
the thing is when when you look when you google this,
you see the only headlines you see is, hey, this
election is taking a long time. But they told us

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it was going to take a long time. So that
is how we're supposed to deal with this. Hey, we
knew it was going to take a long time, and
so we're just supposed to sit back and accept that
maybe they should be a model for the rest of
the country.

Speaker 10 (01:44:15):
Yes, yeah, you know, this is the problem with moving
away from what we used to have in this country
called election day.

Speaker 6 (01:44:26):
And I've covered I came up through the ranks.

Speaker 10 (01:44:29):
Of covering local news, local small town newspapers, and on
election night, I know how the counts are supposed to
go because the various districts and the poll counters there
as soon as the polls closed, they would start counting
ballots and the reporters would assemble at the various districts

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to report the numbers as soon as they came in.
So the idea that California, being a big state, takes
several days to count, that's not true because they have
people broken down by district and you know, everybody has
their own little precinct where they go vote, so they
are fully able to count votes election night and report

(01:45:13):
the results within hours of polls cloning closing. They choose
not to because this is how Democrats win. They turn
election day into election week, election month, and so it
slides under the radar. People forget and their candidates always
curiously win.

Speaker 1 (01:45:29):
Yeah, and I found it curious that the moment that
the Democrat candidate was ahead of the Republican candidate in
Los Angeles, as soon as that happened, the race was called.
So now the races are. They're still hope for Tom

(01:45:52):
Steyer and the governor's race because you know, all the
ballots have and come in. Tom Steyer said, hey, I'm
I'm waiting for all the ballots to get counted because
you know, his race hasn't been the side of yet.
But the moment the Democrat moves ahead, that's when everything. Hey,
you can you can rest assured now that we have
enough ballots and the Republican you know, in this case,

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it loses out.

Speaker 10 (01:46:15):
So Dan, the same point you're just making, right. I
remember years and years ago, I mean up toil, like
I don't know fifteen twenty years ago, going on media
shows during election time, especially when results are pouring in
or from California and the Liberal states, and the same
points are being made because this is how Democrats operate.
It's it's always count, recount, recount, keep counting until their

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candidate pulls ahead, beats the you know, any any sort
of law that requires a runoff under a certain percentage,
and then declares the votes counted. It just it defines
logic that the Left keeps getting by with this, and
something has to be done through the course to put
a stop it.

Speaker 1 (01:47:00):
Yeah, it's a shame on this level is that the
things that Spencer Pratt was doing were really some of
the most entertainment driven things that I have seen in
an election in a long time. And I've got a
friend of mine who works in Los Angeles, and I
told him I was envious because they're having so much
fun watching the campaign out there, and we only get

(01:47:20):
to look at it from afar. So it's a shame
that that sort of creative energy is going to be
taken out of that campaign.

Speaker 10 (01:47:29):
Yeah, and he's more than just about the funny videos
and the energized campaign he brings to the tables some
real issues that the real sort of common sense issues
that really, I think even Democrats out there with favor.
They don't want homeless encampments in the street, they don't
want drug addicts roaming around. They don't want criminals, especially

(01:47:54):
illegal alien criminals, being let out time after time after time.

Speaker 6 (01:47:59):
To commit crime.

Speaker 10 (01:48:00):
So this is purely for the Democrat party leadership that
these sort of shenanigans go on at election time.

Speaker 1 (01:48:08):
How is it compassionate to say that if you're a
meth head and you've been doing meths for so long
that not only is your life destroyed, but your teeth
are falling out as well. And the only thing Karen
Baskin thing to do is to say, you know what,
We'll provide you some dental work if you're a meth head.
What's compassionate about that?

Speaker 10 (01:48:30):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I know your question is rhetorical, right,
But because you're coming at it from a sane point
of view. And now we're dealing with Democrats. The party
leadership though is in charge. It's all about their own
personal power and ambitions and their voting base. Their voters
have become so deranged they're heavily medicated.

Speaker 5 (01:48:53):
They're told that.

Speaker 10 (01:48:54):
They can become boys and girls at will and whim
simply by changing clothes and taking certain medicine. It's all
about elevating the lunacy among their voting base. They're violent,
they're deranged, and that's why common sense doesn't work when
you look at the party and what's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:49:13):
Yeah, the other issue is this guy in Maine, the
oyster Farmer. Whether or not he's really an oyster farmer,
I don't know, But isn't it amazing to watch the
Democrats twist themselves and the pretzels to try and have
the moral high ground on this. Yeah, you know, look,
the guy's a Nazi, but we need power in the
Senate and he's polling well, so it's okay, we can

(01:49:36):
accept this guy.

Speaker 10 (01:49:39):
Well on a scale of offenses, being a Nazi really
doesn't hit hard with Democrats because look at the anti
Semitic protests they allowed to go forth on college campuses
under Joe Biden, you know, and look at who they
elevate in Congress. They have some real loudmouthed anti Israeli
congressional members. The whole squad is about condemning Israel and

(01:50:04):
elevating the Palestinian cause. So Graham Flattner, the fact that
he has a tattoo that is has Nazi roots, it
isn't really hitting hard. It's all about beating Senator Susan Collins.
That's what's going on in Maine right now. They don't
care who the candidate is for the Democrat Party. They
just want him able to beat Susan Collins.

Speaker 1 (01:50:27):
Yeah. I think the Democrats though, have put him on notice.
And I was talking about the pieces that came out recently,
one I guess, one on the Wall Street Journal, the
other in the New York Times with some of his
former girlfriends, and they talked about his poor behavior towards them,
and I guess verging on violence, if not violent behavior.
And I said that, you know, this is a multipurpose piece.

(01:50:51):
One because they want to have this hanging over his
head that if he if he falls out of further
disfavor with the Democrat higher ups, and they can drop
the hammer on this and say, look, the guy's bad news.
We got to get him out of here. But then
on the other hand, it also inoculates him that if
any further information comes out the Democrats can go back
to the role of playbook and say, hey, this is

(01:51:13):
old news, and anyone who's talking about this is just
trying to score political points. So in that sense, it's
a multipurpose piece that serves a lot of interest here
for the Democrat part.

Speaker 10 (01:51:27):
And you know, barring any real vicious, ugly crimes against women,
you know, I'm talking about rape or something like that,
Democrats really don't care because they can play that what
about game. They can point to Donald Trump and even
though many of the issues that were generated by women

(01:51:47):
against him were shown to be false. I'm talking about
Stormy Daniels, right, all that stuff, it doesn't matter. They
can point to Donald Trump and say what about him?
Republicans supported him even though he issues And they can
point to Ken Paxton out in Texas and they can
say what about him with his extramarital affairs. And so

(01:52:09):
there's a lot of cloak and shielding that can go
forth with Graham Platner's issues with women.

Speaker 1 (01:52:17):
All right, Cheryl Chumley, stay right there. We got to
get to a quick break, and we'll have one more
quick segment on the other side of this as we
continue fifty five KRC the talk stations w KRC since
in the talk station eight nineteen. On this Tuesday morning,
fifty five KRC the talk station, as we continue our

(01:52:39):
conversation with Cheryl Chumley from the Washington Times, it is
amazing to me that I still see articles today about
AOC possibly having chops to be to run for president
of the United States. How does that happen?

Speaker 10 (01:52:57):
Because tomper who twenty years ago or in that time frame,
was the chief of the DNC, said that AOC was
going to be the future of the party. So not
only has she taken that to heart, so have all
the other Democrats socialists that are really Marxists right who

(01:53:19):
have come in and infiltrated and corrupted the Democrat Party.
Eventually she will be making a run.

Speaker 6 (01:53:24):
I almost guarantee it, ah Man, that is unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (01:53:29):
The media is making a lot right now of the
recent conversation that Donald Trump had with net and Yahoo
and trying to make an issue that maybe their relationship
is not as great as it could be. The whole
situation Cheryl with Iran right now, I think threatens to
be a huge issue, maybe a bigger issue than it

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should be. In the midterm elections, and it just seems
that we're getting dangerously close to that intersection where we're
not going to be able to separate the two things.
What say you as it relates to the situation in
Iran right now?

Speaker 10 (01:54:05):
Yeah, if you think like most voters in America right
with the kitchen table issues, it's all about gas prices.
And you know, youth in particular youth who supported Trump
and mail, especially youth with males who supported Trump, are
having a hard time with gas and so are many families.
So it's not that most in America pay attention to

(01:54:28):
the ins and outs of all the foreign affairs that
goes forth under this administration, including the war. It's how
it impacts them and if he can't put a speedy
end to this, which is going to be difficult because
Iran has no motivation to right, they know how our
election works, so they know all they have to do
is delay, delay, delay, and sooner or later Democrats will

(01:54:48):
be in charge and they won't have to bow down
to Donald Trump's demands, which are common sense anyhow, So
I ran as playing this game, and I think it
is going to have an impact on the mid terms,
particularly if Democrats start making it a bigger issue than
it already is.

Speaker 1 (01:55:06):
Yeah, the Democrats will be back in charge and the
palettes of cash will start rolling in again. But I think,
you know, people lose sight of the fact that, you know,
a lot of what goes on has been going on
for forty seven years now and even longer, with all
the state sponsorship of terrorism and all the consequences that

(01:55:29):
that has had for the United States, and not to
mention the lives that have been lost along with that.
So it and look, it really it gets exhausting. I
know it gets exhausting for me trying to keep up
with the daily comings and goings of what's happening there.
And I think for the average American who is trying
to raise a family, make ends meet, go to work

(01:55:49):
every day, all the rest of that, it's I think
it's difficult for most Americans to really look beyond the
headlines of any of this kind of Well.

Speaker 10 (01:55:58):
President Trump is the only pro in decades who has
had the courage to hit Iran head on, and the
Democrats don't give him any credit for that. As a
matter of fact, they turn it against him, and they
pretend like Irene hasn't been waging war and killing Americans
as well as our allies, especially in Israel for decades now.

(01:56:18):
And it all becomes for Democrats, which is their low
information voter base, right, it all becomes about paying a
dollar more at the gas pump. And the media helped
because the media don't put in proper context high hundred
Joe Biden, we were paying at times more for gas
than we are now for no reason except for Joe
Biden's abysmal economic policies.

Speaker 1 (01:56:41):
Well, come on, you know that was Putin's price, Like,
you know that was Putin's That wasn't Joe, wasn't Joe
Biden's fulk How much are the Democrats unhappy now with
doctor Jill going around and telling all these falsehoods about
what really happened during the Biden administration.

Speaker 10 (01:57:02):
Yeah, she's made a couple of astonishing admissions. Actually, you know,
she's got a book, The Ditch. So Democrats very understanding
when it comes time to pitch your book so you
can make your millions, so you can turn around and
talk about how millionaires ought to pay more than their
fair share.

Speaker 1 (01:57:22):
Do you know people that actually buy these books from
the I mean, like like Kamala Harris book. I look,
I'm not reaching into my wallet for that one. I'm
not going to be Biden buying the Jill Biden book
or the Hunter Biden book. The people really buy these
things that.

Speaker 4 (01:57:37):
You know of.

Speaker 10 (01:57:39):
Nobody I know buys these types of books, Michelle Obama,
Jill Biden, even Hillary Clinton. But I think they get
their friends in nonprofits and things like that to buy
them in bulk and then have them come and make
speeches for exorbitant fees.

Speaker 1 (01:57:55):
It's I guess it's a great a great gig.

Speaker 6 (01:57:57):
If you can get it, great gig if you can
get it.

Speaker 1 (01:58:01):
All right, Cheryl Chummley, we got a run. But as always,
I want to thank you for the time. And if
people want to find out more about you and your
podcast and all the rest of it, where do they
do that?

Speaker 10 (01:58:11):
Washington Times and I have a great one with Mike
Hewitt coming out today to put in context all the
Iranian war issues.

Speaker 1 (01:58:18):
All right, Cheryl Chumley, thank you so much, have yourself
a great day, and I certainly look forward to the
next time we get a chance to talk again. And
there you go. Cheryl Chumley from The Washington Times, eight
twenty five, and we've got Adam Taylor from the Cincinnati
Exchange coming up after this on fifty five KRC, the
talk station.

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Talk Station fifty five KRC, the talk station eight twenty
nine on this Tuesday morning. I have said it before,
I'll say it again. The Cincinnati Exchange is the website

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where you will find information about Cincinnati and stories about
Cincinnati that you find really nowhere else. And the guy
behind it all is Adam Taylor. And Joe do we
have Adam? We lost him. I looked up on the
screen there a little while ago. We had him, but
we don't have him right now. So Joe is going
to try and make contact with him again. And Adam

(01:59:23):
Kaylor I was talking yesterday about this piece that he's
got in the Cincinnati Exchange and we were talking with
Chris Smithaman about crime in Cincinnati and the reporting of crime,
and the headline is this is crime down in Cincinnati
or have we simply stopped reporting? And Adam Kaylor writes this,
Cincinnati's crime statistics show improvement in several categories, but reported

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crime and actual public safety are not necessarily the same. Thing.
This piece examines how underreporting change public expectations. Population shifts
in political incentive can create a gap between official numbers
and residents lived experiences. As fewer incidents get reported and

(02:00:08):
fewer people demand accountability, crime statistics may only tell part
of the story. And with that we say good morning
to Adam Taylor and Adam how are you doing this morning?

Speaker 6 (02:00:20):
Hey, Dan, good good.

Speaker 1 (02:00:22):
We've been hearing this. It seems like a treadmill every
time we have an incident, either in downtown Cincinnati or
in greater Cincinnati. We had another shooting, another death last night,
we hear the same refrain from those at city hall
that hey, the city is safe, and come on down,

(02:00:45):
everything is just fine. Look at the numbers. Look at
the numbers, and the numbers tell you that things are
really moving in the right direction. But what I think,
what you're saying here is that we really need to
look beyond the numbers, or at least the headlines anyway.

Speaker 6 (02:01:04):
Well, yeah, I mean, and there's an actual department in
the government that actually tracks crime statistics that have gone unreported.
It's the US Department of Justices National Crime Victimization Survey,
And they actually say that about half of violent crimes
are actually reported each year, eleven point two out of

(02:01:28):
one thousand versus twenty three that actually happened. And then
on top of that, you've got this reclassification. You remember,
when Corey Bowman was running for mayor, there was a
place downtown that got shot up with a bunch of bullets,
and they classify that now as property damage. And imagine

(02:01:48):
if three or four houses get hit, is it just
the one house because it was the one incident, or
is it you know, the three houses or whatever they
get hit, or is it just you know, one case
of proper party damage. It's absolutely insane, and that's how
a lot of I think these these kind of far
left cities and these progressive mayors, you know, like Cincinnati.

(02:02:11):
You know, we have a monopoly of Democrats running city
council and obviously our mayor is as well. And you've
heard a lot of the rhetoric from them where they
wanted to defund the police at some point in their careers,
and now that's become unpopular. Largely, you know, they want
bail reform, they want all this criminal justice reform, but

(02:02:33):
there's rarely ever any talk about helping victims or encouraging
victims to come forward. And in many communities like the
one I grew up in Price so people keep their
mouth shut. You know, there's a no snitch code. Nobody
wants to talk about it. You're supposed to keep quiet.
And how many of those incidents are there around the city?
I mean, is that why they keep telling us crime

(02:02:54):
is down?

Speaker 1 (02:02:55):
Yeah, you had a piece in Cincinnati Exchange just a
few days ago to talking about what's happening at the libraries.
Local twelve did a piece on this Cincinnati library and
say violence threats are hurting morale and safety at branches.
It seems to me that this is an area of
underreporting as well, what's happening in Cincinnati public libraries. And

(02:03:17):
now you combine that with the idea that we have
a juvenile court judge who has it has dawned on
her that the bright idea is that when I guess
you know, young criminals come before her, her idea is to,
instead of have any real punishment, to tell them to
go out and get a library card and head to
the library. And I don't know if you can connect

(02:03:38):
the dots here between is sending offenders into the library
and then people who work at the library reporting that
they feel threatened on a regular basis.

Speaker 6 (02:03:50):
Well, yeah, I mean when you believe the narrative, when
you believe that, you know, crime is down, and you
look at these numbers and you know, you see the
charts people tell you. I mean, you know, you're you know,
I'm on X a lot, and you know they you know,
there's people out there that come to the rescue of
city council every time I bring up another incident of
crime in the city, and they always put up the
same chart where it shows crime dropping. Well, I mean

(02:04:12):
the problem is is all the good people are leaving.
They're all moving out to the suburbs. And I look
at the latest statistics. You know, Cincinnati actually lost residents
last year. And who are those residents? Those are residents
that are sick of the crime. They're sitting. They don't
want to go downtown to the library.

Speaker 4 (02:04:29):
You kill me.

Speaker 6 (02:04:30):
I mean that was my library growing up. I mean
I went to the School for the Creative Informing Arts
and the only way I could get on a computer
was to go under the library. And when you're you know,
you go there first, you have to get through an
onslaught of homeless people who are standing out in the front.
Hopefully you don't get into a fight or get robbed
out there. Then you get into the library, you got
unruly kids acting up, and of course, I mean you're

(02:04:51):
going to give a bunch of kids that are getting
in trouble library cards, and then the people they don't
like show up at the library. Next thing, you know,
there's going to be problems downtown. I mean, you know
there's there's a growing gang problem in Cincinnati, and you
always had, you know, things like kids from one school
don't like kids from another school, or kids that have
had problems with another kid at school, they end up

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seeing them at the library. Of course they're going to
get into a fight. So there has to be something
for these kids that I mean, we grew up the
same way, you know, the kids having problems, but I
mean the violence, the level of violence, and the brazenness
of these these type of acts, I mean, getting into
fights inside of a library of all places, and and
these church vessels. I mean, you saw what happened in Toledo,

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you saw what happened in Columbus, it happened in Kansas
City two days ago. You got these teen takeovers. I mean,
that kind of stuff never really happened when you were kids.
It's just the level that these young people are going
to now and committing adult crimes and uh and the
violence they're willing to go to. It's it's absolutely insane.
And where are they learning this from? I mean, is
at home?

Speaker 4 (02:05:52):
Is it?

Speaker 6 (02:05:53):
The politicians making constant excuses for people. You know, you're
you're you're only you're only bad because of the system.
You're oppressed, so you know, nothing you do is actually bad.
It's all because you know you don't have this or
you don't have that, and you know a lot of it.
A lot of times it goes back to no fathers

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in the house. You know, you say it over and
over again, But what do you do about it?

Speaker 1 (02:06:18):
All right, Adam Taylor, stay right there. We got to
get to a quick break and then we'll continue on
here on fifty five KRC the Talk Station. Not every
Chimney system is the same. Atty five k RCV Talk
Station fifty five KRC the Talk Station eight forty. On
this Tuesday morning, Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas talking with

(02:06:39):
Alan Adam Taylor of the Cincinnati Exchange, and he's written
a piece about reporting crime here in the city of Cincinnati,
and one of the sections of your piece you talk
about another reality that is is that is worth acknowledging,
is that many people have personal, professional, or financial reasons

(02:06:59):
to emphasize positive news. And I get this a lot
because people hear me talking on the radio, people that
are listening to our conversation right now are saying, you
know what, look, these two are being a little heavy
handed on this that the this is simply the perception.
The reality is a lot different. If you come downtown,
things are safe. I don't feel threatened when I come downtown.

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I hear these arguments thrown at me a lot from
people who who do go downtown, who have good experiences.
And I'm not sitting here saying that those things do
not happen. But we also have the reality of crime
that happens in the city of Cincinnati. And I don't
think we've had a city council that has looked at

(02:07:41):
this and tried to deal with this in a meaningful
way for a long time.

Speaker 6 (02:07:46):
No, No, they don't. I mean I think there's you know,
you've obviously got incentives from you know, groups that have
been trying to revitalize downtown since then. I mean, this
is a thing that's been happening in a lot of
cities around the country. You know, they're trying to strengthen
the urban or if you don't have a strong urban core,
the rest of your city fails. Eventually your suburbs die out.
So you know, you've got a lot of people leave

(02:08:06):
in the city and they're moving out and there. They
just don't feel like they're being heard. They feel like
they're being brushed off.

Speaker 1 (02:08:15):
And if you're a.

Speaker 6 (02:08:16):
Small business downtown of course, you know Procter and Gamble, Kroger,
those people, you know, they're not leaving. But the whole
reason that they you know, three CDC came in and
rehabbed a lot of over the Rhine, especially at Vine Street,
was to attract those young, you know, white collar workers
to places like p ANDNG and Kroger. You know, people

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want to be able to live in a city where
they can walk around and have a good time. But
when you know, when they're shootings at restaurants downtown on
Fountain Square and then you come to find out that
the perpetrator was let off, you know, crazy things that
you know, shouldn't be happening that are happening in your city,
especially in the areas where the investment was. I mean,

(02:08:58):
I've got friends who, you know, purchased apartment buildings in
the West End and now they're looking to sell those
and nobody wants to buy him right now. And you know,
it puts people in a tough spot. You say, hey,
investors come into my city and you know, buy an
apartment building for this, you know, supposed lack of housing.

Speaker 10 (02:09:15):
That we have.

Speaker 6 (02:09:16):
Well, then people come in and they buy those buildings.
There's a shooting outside or the park, something happens at
the park, or you know, it seems like it's always
at the park. I don't know why people decided to
shoot people and do crazy things at the parks, but
that's where they're doing it.

Speaker 1 (02:09:31):
Yeah, well that's why. That's where the shooting was last night,
right across the street from the park. But then we
have It's been one year since Patrick Harringer was killed
in his home on East mcmcckinonn Avenue, and just the
other day, his wife, Sarah Herringer, announced that she's suing
the city for a wrongful death lawsuit. Her attorney Todd McMurray.
McMurtry was on with Cunningham the other day and he

(02:09:54):
was talking about how Cincinnati police have stopped doing pro
act to policing and so, and he was making the
case that, look, we don't stop people for small violations,
for simple things, traffic violations, things like that, things that
seem innocuous. But in many, many cases, when you stop

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someone for something smaller, it can lead to finding out
maybe someone that has a warrant, someone that may be
illegally in possession of a firearm or drugs, whatever the
case may be. So that sort of things has come
to an end. And that's the sort of thing that
allowed this criminal with the ankle monitor on to cut

(02:10:36):
Mordecai Black to cut off an ankle monitor, enter his
home and stab this guy to death. And this is
the very kind of person that you were talking about
that was involved in having a small business in the
in the urban core and doing what he could to
help with the revitalization of that area. And he paid
with it for it with his life.

Speaker 6 (02:10:57):
And that's the type of couple we want to bring
down there. And not only that they ran a healthcare business,
you know, they ran a GM and they're getting our city,
you know, healthier. I mean, you know the amount of
Skyline Chili I eat every week? I need to be
going to the gym, right. But it's it's these crazy problems.
And I mean she now she's going to sue the city,
and who's going to pay for that? Is city council

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going to pay for it? Does this judge given these
kids library cards?

Speaker 4 (02:11:20):
Is she going to pay for it? No?

Speaker 6 (02:11:22):
There's never any accountability for these people. And it's I
think it all stems back from from academia. There's there's
a group of people that always think they're going to
solve the crime problem. Every generation coming out of the
criminal justice schools. You know, I'm going to be the
one to figure it out. I'm going to reduce recidivism rates.
I'm going to do this, And they essentially Cincinnati is
a giant test market for uh, for these ideas.

Speaker 1 (02:11:46):
Yea, these people have how's that? How's that working out?
How's that working out for you?

Speaker 5 (02:11:51):
Hey?

Speaker 6 (02:11:51):
They won't stop. Every generation thinks they're going to be
the one, you know, and you've got these professors that
you know, they don't want to they don't want to.

Speaker 1 (02:11:58):
Do anything with these criminals.

Speaker 6 (02:11:59):
They they want to take on them, right, they want to.
It's it's that's all it is. And nobody has ever
held accountable. And you know, Sarahringer is gonna gonna show
everybody that you know, she was a victim of her
husband died. I mean, it's absolutely insane. And think about that.
That's that's the case that everybody knows about. Everybody saw.
But I mean, there's over sixty homicides in Cincinnati every

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single year. How many of those do we ever hear about?
How many of those people ever sue the city for
letting a criminal out on the street multiple times? We
just had a guy in court yesterday jump out of
a wheelchair, histol whipped, his girlfriend, flees the scene, runs
from the cops, runs into cars as he's fleeing from
the police, gets out of the car, they arrest him.

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He's got meth, cocaine, and other drugs in the car.
Then he goes to court yesterday. They got him in
a wheelchair like he's the victim. Then he jumps out
of the wheelchair, starts fighting the bailiffs Like that's the
kind of guy you're talking about. Get him off the street.

Speaker 1 (02:12:58):
It's it's unbelievable. Adam, you got time for one more
quick segment? Yeah, all right, all right, stay right there
and we'll get to that right after this.

Speaker 13 (02:13:07):
On fifty five krs the talk states Cheffak's Credit Unions,
five krs the talk station, fifty five krs the talk
station coming up on eight fifty we're talking with Adam
Kaylor from the Cincinnati Exchange.

Speaker 1 (02:13:21):
And Adam on another issue. I don't know if you saw.
City council had a meeting yesterday where all the council
members got to come in and talk about the different
funding earmarks they want for different projects, and I guess
you know, they're different groups and all this sort of thing.
Mark Jefferies was apparently the only one who talked about

(02:13:42):
infrastructure jobs, and he said he wants four point five
million for street paving, a million dollars to remove some
lead paint I don't know from where, seven hundred and
fifty thousand dollars to combat storm water damage. Council member
Wall said he wanted three hundred thousand dollars for an
engineering study of the Purple People Bridge. And I'm thinking
to myself, well, wait a minute, don't we have money

(02:14:04):
from the railroad fund. Isn't the railroad fund supposed to
be used to address issues like that, like bridges, like streets,
like infrastructure, which to my way of thinking would include
storm water. Isn't that where money like that is supposed
to come from.

Speaker 6 (02:14:22):
That's exactly where that's supposed to come from. All that
sounds like infrastructure to me, and that money was set
aside to only be able to be used on infrastructure projects.
So where is that money coming from that they're asking for.
I mean, it should be coming from that railroad fund.
I mean they've got, you know, over you know, a
billion and a half dollars in that railroad fund, and

(02:14:44):
you know, we shouldn't be paying for that at this point.
That thing should be to be paying us. It's just
absolutely insane and the most absurd thing I think they've proposed.
They have this group inside of in city Hall that
came up with this climate migrant plan.

Speaker 4 (02:15:03):
Have you seen that?

Speaker 1 (02:15:04):
I have not seen that climate. I wrote an article
about it.

Speaker 6 (02:15:12):
It's it's last second to the last article I've written.
But it's all about how in twenty fifty there's supposed
to be all these people that are going to flee
the coastal areas because the temperatures are going to get high.
There's going to be you know, floods. You know, they're
all going to be underwater in Florida. So they all
are going to come to Cincinnati. So they've come up

(02:15:34):
with this plan on increasing housing, updating our infrastructure, and
all this for these these hypothetical people who are going
to move to Cincinnati. Dam people left Cincinnati. The only
we had negative domestic migration in Cincinnati. People who were
born and raised in America left Cincinnati. The only reason

(02:15:56):
we didn't lose more people is because of the open borders,
because you had all these migrant people coming in and
they you know, obviously sanctuary City let them all in.
Those are the only people. So you're already not attracting
people who are from America to come to Cincinnati. You've
already got that problem. On top of that, we've got
the crime problem. On top of that, we got potholes.

(02:16:18):
On top of that, you've got over a billion dollars
sitting in this fund and you can't fix these basic
problems people ask you for. Nobody asked for a climate
migrant plan.

Speaker 1 (02:16:27):
I'm looking at how I'm looking at the headline right here,
Cincinnati's Climate Migrant Plan reveals a bigger problem at city Hall.
It just it is amazing to me that anyone at
City Hall would sit around and waste their time coming
up with something. I love the AI picture that you
got up there too, illustration.

Speaker 6 (02:16:50):
Cases towards Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 (02:16:51):
Oh yeah, the traveling finding sanctuary in the in the
shining gem of the city of Cincinnati. Adam, we gotta
run as always, man, Thanks for the time, great to
talk to you. Keep up the great work there at
the Cincinnati Exchange. We'll be talking again.

Speaker 6 (02:17:06):
Before too long, all right, Dan, thanks so much.

Speaker 1 (02:17:09):
All Right, there you go, Adam Taylor from the Cincinnati Exchange,