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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All sail at two fifty about fifty five k r
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Speaker 2 (00:34):
I got so excited at her pulled my head and
I pulled my head sides out of the plug. Oh man,
it is Wednesday morning, fifty five KRC the talk station.
A little hot for teacher. This is great stuff. I
got to listen to this all day. Good morning, now,

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all right, all right, it's five oh five on this
Wednesday morning, Dan Carroll and for Brian Thomas. One more
day Gary Jeff will be here Thursday and Friday. But
what a fun three days it has been. We now
live in a world, Joe Strecker, where people with Nazi
tattoos can win elective office. It's absolutely fantastic. Grant Platner

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one mains Democrat Senate primary Tuesday evening. Amazing how fast
they can count the votes in me. Platner will now
face off against Susan Collins in the general election in November.
Of course, among the other other discretions that Platner had

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or indiscretions, I guess is the word yeah, I had
his Nazi tattoo, had the hateful Reddit posts. I think
that was the one where we talked about Alahawa, an
American killed in action, deserved to die. I had all
the sexual text messages with women while he was married.

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Of course the death tattoo. But no, this is this
is the Democrats guy. I would think that the most
confused guy on on the Democrats side today has got
to be Eric Swalwell. You think Joe. I mean, Swalwell's
got to be sitting there saying, look, I didn't do

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I mean, you know, he slept with a Chinese spy,
had all the accusations about you know, the women accusing
him of inappropriate sexual stuff and all that. But to
my as far as I know, I don't think Swalwell
has has a Nazi tattoo. So he's got to be thinking,

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you know, how is it the Platner is in good
standing with the Democrat and I am not. But I
think he won with like seventy plus percent of the votes.
Trying to find a piece here that that that has
ask that number? It doesn't matter. So will this prevent Democrats, though,

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from being able to claim or seek or try to
act as if they have the moral high ground on
these issues when it comes to being a Nazi? I mean,
does this now inoculate Donald Trump from being called a
Nazi by Democrats. I don't know. We'll have to see

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how that's going to play out, but it'll be interesting
to see if they have to cool their rhetoric on
that a little bit. But yeah, the nine o seven
pm Eastern time was when they made the call on that,
so it did not take long. So he's got the

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he's a way he goes and he's going to be
Maine or he's going to run for Maine in Maine
against Susan Collins. So we will see what happens with that.
Unbelievable And then you got Nitthia Rahman out there thanking
all the voters. She of course won it was I guess.

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I guess they look when she passed up Spencer Pratt yesterday,
it was a foregone conclusion. And I guess now that
I guess now they're saying it's officially over, and I guess.
And the other surprising thing to me is in California
is that Steve Hilton is going to be able to

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run for governor. So they were able to do it
for Spencer Pratt. They were not able to knock Steve
Hilton out of the governor's race. So that's and he
said he's going to be I saw him on with
Laura Ingram last night and he said he's going to
have Spencer Pratt campaigning with him around California. So at

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least the when it comes to entertainment value, we're not
going to be lacking that. So I'm looking forward to
seeing what happens there. But we'll be watching from afar
here in Ohio and we'll see what happens. I got
to give credit to the Cincinnati Enquirer. They have a
peace out this morning, and I'm gonna I'm probably going

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to I haven't read the whole thing yet, but it
is apparently they went and talked to Hamilton County Municipal
Court Judge Samantha Silverstein and they asked her about the
situation regarding Rick Wright, who is accused of stabbing Alyssa

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Hillton death at the Skyline Chile in Norwood, and so
they get into pretty good depth on this. Again, I
haven't I just saw the piece this morning. I got up,
looked at my computer and I saw that this was
the lead story on the Cincinnati Inquirer website. Joe has

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a printed out for me so we'll be taking a
look at that. Also, Brendan Soresby, that decision is sending
shock waves throughout the NCAA, and it really boils down
the sports guys down the hall are really right about this.

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There is when you have a judge talk about a
guy that admitted to gambling on sports, and then you
have a judge say, well, he can still play sports.

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What message does that send? It sends that there are
no consequences for your actions. He knew he wasn't supposed
to do it. He may claim he has some mental
deficiency that led him to make all these bets, thousands
and thousands and thousands of bets, as it turns out,

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bet on when he at least when he was playing
for Indiana. I think there was an investigation underway as
to when he was playing for the University of Cincinnati,
but admitted to betting on sports in Indiana the football
team when he was playing on the football team. Not
supposed to do that. But even if he has some
underlying issue that caused him to do that, you still

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need to have some consequences for your action. Now this
opens the door to I guess anyone else in college
or I don't know about professional sports, but certainly college sports.
And look, these kids are, these young athletes are getting
all kinds of money now because of the NIL deals

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that they are signing, and so they've got the means
to engage in embedting activity even though you're not supposed
to do that. So the Brendan, the Brenda Sorosby story
continues to move on. You've got Georgia, Nebraska. A couple

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of teams athletic department leaders at Georgia and Nebraska instructed
coaches and sport administrators not to schedule Texas Tech in
any future athletic competition. So I guess that in schools
that disagree with this ruling, that's the only way they
can show their their disappointment there. So we've got that

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going on. Today is Wednesday, and we've got some great
guests going The other big thing that was going on
was the hearing with the head of the Southern Poverty
Law Center on Capitol Hill yesterday, and so I sent
a text message to my friend Tina Daskovich, who is
the CEO and co founder of a great organization called

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Moms for Liberty. I think most people in this audience
have probably have some familiarity with Moms for Liberty. I've
had her on as a guest on this show my
other shows before. But she's just terrific. And I texted
her yesterday. I asked her if she watched the hearing.
She said, I was there. She was there representing Moms

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for Liberty at the hearing yesterday. She is going to
join us at six point thirty this morning and tell
us about she's in DC right now. She's got her
own podcast. And I told her, Hey, I'm on the
morning show fifty five KRC. Can you be on the show?

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She says, well, it depends on what time I've got.
Her podcast starts at seven forty five and goes to
nine point fifteen, and I said, will how about six thirty?
She said, okay, so six thirty. It is live here
on fifty five KRC. The co founder and CEO of
Moms for Liberty, who was in the hearing room yesterday

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during the testimony with the interim head. And I almost
feel a little bit sorry for this guy, the interim
head of the Southern Poverty Law Center. He hasn't been
around that long. Look, I think he knew it was
there long enough to know he's only been there for

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about a year or so, and he's I guess he's
a professor. He's going to go back to his teaching job.
He's only been there about a year or so, so
he's not responsible for all of it. But I think
he knew enough of what was going on the way
the SPLC was paying these different groups to calls racial strife.

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I think he knew about it and either turned the
blind eye to it or let it happen. So in
a way I felt sorry for him, But in another way,
I really didn't because he certainly had time to If
he uncovered this and knew about it and knew it
was wrong, he should have known it was wrong, didn't
take any action to correct it. So in a way,

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I really don't feel sorry for it. But we'll get
Tina Dskovic's take on that. Jack Atherton here at seven,
and then Joe Strecker has a congressman Massy for us
at eight oh five, and we'll talk to him, find
out what's going on with him, as he's a lame
duck in Congress now see how things are going for him.
And then my buddy Jim faff is on standby for

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eight thirty. He is the head of the Conservative Caucus
and we'll talk some politics with him. So we've got
a full day on tap and hope you can stick
around for it. Five sixteen at fifty five KRC the
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to feel like one hundred again. I hope you're air
conditioning as work. It is seventy one at fifty five

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KRC the talk station. Oh, this one brings back some memories.
Little Scorpions song used to get a lot of airplay. Back, Joe,

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you remember when this song was on the radio all
the time back in the early eighties. Yeah, this song
is rocket. I can tell you a story about this song,
but nobody wants to hear that right now, all right,
So David Ferrara and Cameron Knight of the Inquiry, the

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headline on their piece is man was wanted before Alyssa
Hill was stabbed? Why he wasn't in jail after Alyssa
Hill was stabbed to death? Inside the skyline, people blame
the judge, and I'm reading from the Inquirer story here.
People blame the judge who put the accuser, the accused
attacker on probation, but Hamlin County Municipal Court Judge Samantha

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Silverstein and the county's probation department said there are gaps
in the system that allowed Rick Wright to stay on
the street. Right was already wanted by police the day
he was charged with stabbing Hill, his ex girlfriend at
and a Skyline waitress. Months earlier, he had ditched his
court ordered addiction program and stopped checking in with his

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probation officer, according to court records. So, Joe, I've never
been on probation. I don't know if you have. But
part of your probationary sentence is that you need to
check in regular with your probation office. And if you don't,

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the consequence is what that you get arrested again. Right,
you go back get you go back behind bars. Well,
apparently that didn't happen. Silverstein, who placed Right on probation
in the first place, had no idea he violated his
probation until after the June second stabbing, she told the Inquirer.

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Neither did the Norwood police officers who regularly encountered him
in the early months of his probation. Right was arrested
in charge after attempting to punch an officer in February
of twenty twenty five. The charge was a misdemeanor assault
on a police officer, and that was I was talking
to to Judge Hartman about that, and his question was,

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how does assaulting a police officer as a felony? He
was concerned about why this turned into a misdemeanor, and
so I think that question needs to be explored a
little bit. He was when we had our conversation. To

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his way of thinking, it was the prosecutor's office who,
for whatever reason, decided to bring this as a misdemeanor charge.
So let's see, so a punched police officer or attempted
to in February twenty five, charge was misdemeanor assault, carrying
a maximum sentence of six months. When Silverstein sentenced him

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to a year of probation that March, he had already
been in jail a month, which would have counted towards
his sentence. Had the judge sent him to jail, he
would have been out by August of last year. Silverstein
said there would have been no probation after his release
because it was a misdemeanor. So again, Judge Hartman when

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we had our conversation, was questioning why this was a
misdemeanor charge, because he knew the consequences were going to
play out this way. Generally, judges are not kept in
the loop about how someone violated their probation when a
warrant is issued. Silverstein said, well, that's all, that's all
fine and good. I can't imagine, you know, I would

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imagine that judges put so many people on probation it
would be impossible to so for a judge to monitor
on a regular basis what is going on with these
individuals they put on probation. That that seems to make
perfect sense to me. Isn't that why we have people
who work in the probation department if we have one,

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and I would, I would certainly hope that we do.
Whose job it is to keep track of that sort
of thing? And if we don't, then why don't we
and why don't we fix it if it's messed up?
But I'm getting ahead of myself here. Let's see. Let's
see sometimes another judge might sign the warrant. Even then,
most of the details are left until the person appears

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in court. No judge has real time knowledge of every
person who is currently in violation status or every person
who was successfully complying with probation conditions, Silverstein said. On
the frigid afternoon of February and February of twenty twenty five,
police were called to the Salvation Army down the road

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from Rights in Rwaod Department after he injured someone inside.
Told officers he wanted to go to jail. When police
on the scene asked him why, he went silent. A
few minutes moments later, he ran at one of the
officers tried to punch him. It was the latest and
a string of violent of violence throughout Right's adult life.

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So we'll leave it right there. We got to do
take a little break here and get to some weather,
and I'll continue on with the Inquirer piece where they
speak with Judge Silverstein and look at the case of
mister Wright who was accused of stabbing Alyssa Hill to
death at the skyline, Chile five at fifty five KRCV

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talk station. Taxes can quietly erode your retirement. I'm Greg
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One more morning, I get to sit in for Brian Thomas,
and I'm looking at the Inquirer article that is out
this morning as they are doing a little bit of
a deep dive into the case of the man who
stabbed Alissa Hill at the Skyline Chile. Mister Wright, and

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we left off where she talks about no judge has
real time knowledge of every person who was currently serving probation.
Let's see, let's see they talk about it was a
fridgid afternoon in twenty twenty five when police went to
the Salvation Army in Norwood. Wright had injured someone in

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the apartment inside. He ran a police tried to punch him,
and that case came to court as a misdemeanor. And
I was talking about my conversation with Judge Hartman, who
suggested to me that it should have been more than
a misdemeanor. Let's see. It was the latest in a
string of violence throughout right It's adult life, coupled with
drug possession, prison time for armed robbery. Three women have

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accused him over the years of attempt or attacking and
threatening them during fights. According to court records. His family
members have pressed charges against him, including after a two
thousand and eight fight when a relative claimed Right broke
his car window to get at him. Right pleaded guilty
to trying to punch an order officer, and after spending
about a month in jail, Silverstein released him on probation,

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suspending an additional month of jail time, on the condition
he get addiction treatment, stay out of trouble, and check
in with a probation officer. Those who serve jail time
on misdemeanors do not receive any probation after they are released,
Silverstein said, However, the probation can last up to five years.

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Wright was unemployed and without a consistent address. Court record
show his case was handed over to Patty Davis, the
program manager for the Addiction Services Council, a court approval
liaison that connects people on probation to the programs they need.
Soon after Wright was sentenced in March of twenty five,

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Davis says she brought him to New Vision Transitional Living,
a sober living home for just under ten people. Davis
said Right had snuck a knife into the home, had
issues there, and eventually he left over the next several
months he would re engage with the program, Probation officials said.

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Then in December, he missed a check in with his
probation officer, never made contact again, and a warrant was
issued for his arrest. It's unclear in court records whether
police made an attempt to track Right down. Josh Price,
counselor and owner of New Vision, declined to comment on
Right's case, specifically, citing patient privacy. Price said he always

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follows all of his obligations to communicate with the court
and other partners. In some cases, there are specific conditions
given to him to communicate with the court if a
patient leaves, but not in other cases. Across Hamilton County,
there are more than one hundred and twenty thousand active
warrants of all types. Silverstein said. Warrants are served by priority,

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including if there are violations in involving a court order
to stay away from another person from other I guess
it's just say persons such as in domestic violence situations
or urgent circumstances, warrants and misdemeanor cases, as rights was
are given the lowest priority. And again I go back

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to my conversation with Judge Hartman, and he was questioning
why was this a misdemeanor. Misdemeanor cases like rights given
the lowest priority. Kevin Bonecutter, the municipal court chief probation officer, said,
after they learned Right had left treatment and was no
longer at his last own address, they issued a warrant

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but did not make an attempt to track him down.
They issued a warrant, but did not make an attempt
to track him down. Well, Joe, what good is a
warrant if no attempt is made to track the individual down?
Isn't that what a warrant is designed to do, to

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tell those in that position, here's a warrant, we need
to find this guy or gal or whoever, whoever, whatever
the case may be, there's a warrant. We got to
find them. Isn't that what warrants?

Speaker 4 (23:22):
Afore?

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Maybe I'm missing the boat here. Maybe I don't know
what warrants afore, let's see. Nor had police confirmed they
were not told about rights outstanding warrant. In general, warrants
are just entered into the system and made available to
law enforcement. Bone Cutters that most of the time in

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municipal court. Bone Cutter said, warrants are issued for people
who haven't paid their full will fine or restitution in
time in the time they were supposed to, not cases
where someone could possibly inflict violence. Silverstein has long been
a target for some Cincinnati politicos, who say she is
too lenient on repeat offenders and issues bonds that are

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too low as a municipal court judge. Last week, on Facebook,
one man described Silverstein as culpable in the murder of Hill,
Cincinnati's police union. A regular critic of the judge said
she was in part responsible for this. Some of the
posts turned into threats. Silverstein said she received at least

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two threatening voicemails regarding the case last week, and an
additional forty voicemails remain under review with assistants from the
Sheriff's office. And so to that that is not the
proper road. You can be critical of the judge, you

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can have harsh words for the judge, but you do
not call the judge. You do not send threatening message.
You do not threaten to do harm to the judge
or her family. Is that is crossing the line When
you do that, you are no better than mister Wright
or any of the other criminal scumbags we talk about

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with regular with regularity on this and other shows. So
it's fine, I think for the community. And I know
there's a lot of people in including myself, who are
very very upset that this whole scenario went down the
way it did, who have a great displeasure, who have

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profound disagreements with Judge Silverstein. But that is crossing the line.
When you make personal and threaten personal attacks violence against
the judge, against anyone, you can't do it. It doesn't
it doesn't help, It doesn't help one side or the other,

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and it just makes you look like an ass clown.
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show today, Joe, just on the on the memories that
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It's fantastic. All right, Let's see where do we leave
off here on the Inquirer pe. Then again, I'm giving
great credit to the Inquirer for talking to Judge Silverstein
about this and taking a look at this case in

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particular involving Rick Wright and Alyssa Hill and the horrible,
horrible stabbing death at the Skyline Chilean Norwood. Let's see
this is the second notable case this year in which
a person had an outstanding misdemeanor warrant that police did

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not act upon, which ended into tragic killing. In March,
Jesse Wilson waited outside his ex girlfriend's Avondelle apartment before
fatally shooting her. Wilson had been wanted for aggravated menacing
on a separate case involving the ex girlfriend, but police
did not arrest Wilson until after her death. Municipal Court
Judge Bernie Bouchard signed the warrant against Wilson. Silverstein said

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judges should always evaluate whether our system can be improved. Okay,
all agree with that, including how information about outstanding warrants
has communicated the judges and police. Better technology could also
provide quicker access to information, she said. Better technology could

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also provide quicker access to information. She said, wasn't there
a time and I go back to the days when
Joe you were around, when Tom Striker was chief of police?
Were you not? It wasn't he a regular guest here
in studio back then? Back then? Wasn't Tom Striker adamant

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that his police officers on a daily basis go out
and check up on the warrants that were out there.
Wasn't that something that he talked about all the time.
Wasn't that something that he talked about as a powerful

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tool to to prevent future crimes from happening? It was
the communication different or better back then? Did we have
better technology when Chief Striker was a chief of police
than we have now? Somehow we need to have better communication.

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So I'll take issue with Judge Silverstein on that one.
Let's see. Silverstein said, not every warrant presents the same
level of risk, and the court's process should ensure higher
risk cases receive greater attention. I have no reason to
believe that these charges would have prevented this tragedy, she said.

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The misdemeanor offense for which mister Wright appeared before me
was not an indicator that he would later be accused
of committing an act of extreme violence more than a
year afterward. Well, what about his previous record? Would that
be any indicator? It seems to me. Yeah, it might

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be with something you want to look at, but at
least in this quote here, there's a no reference to that.
One of Hill's closest friends, Kayla Elliott, asked for judges
to stop letting violent people stay on the streets. My
best friend was failed by the system, Elliot said. And

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that's where it ends. Is that. I guess that was
the end of it, Hun Joe. That ends kind of
abruptly there. So, so again, credit to the Inquiry for
talking with Judge Silverstein about this. I do not feel
fulfilled by this. I think this leaves a lot of
questions dangling out there. But I think it's a good

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launching point for a lot of conversation about this. And
I think it is also fair to say that Judge
Samantha Silverstein still has some answering to do. I go
back to twenty twenty four when the Hamilton County Prosecutor
Melissa Powers said that low bonds from judges are becoming

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a public safety issue, and she singled out Hamilton County
Judge Samantha Silverstein on social media for low dollar amounts
on bonds and releasing suspects on their own recognisance. So
I think there are Look and she admits, now we
got you know, we might have problems in the system.

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Isn't that why we elect people like judges. Isn't that
why people in positions of responsibility, whether you're in the
probation system, you're in the court system, you're in the
part of the police or the prosecutor's office. Don't we
have all these people in place to deal Isn't it
there job to deal with stuff like this? Wasn't there

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a time when we dealt with stuff like this in
a serious way. Look, I don't care, and I totally
understand the argument that you are not going to stop
all crime, You are not going to prevent repeat criminals
from repeating again, it is impossible to achieve that then,
But I think the other side of that coin is

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that the system has become so lax and so lenient,
and we have so many progressive ways of thinking about
crime and punishment that we have gone so far the
other direction that cases like this that have red flags
all over the place simply get ignored and lumped in

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with everyone else, and then we have horrible murders like this.
And again, it's not just Alyssa Hill who was victimized.
It was everyone who was in that restaurant that was victimized.
Everyone who her fellow co workers, the owner of the place,
the guy I talked to, the chase down the bad guy,
all of them, her kids, her family, victimized, her friends.

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You victimize not just the victim, but everyone associated with
that victor. And I don't think we deal with this
in a serious way. Five forty seven, Dan Carroll for
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the Talk Station five point fifty two, Dan Carroll for
Brian Thomas. I'm looking at some Facebook posts that I
believe the FOP put out back in twenty twenty four,
and they were not happy with Judge Samantha Silverstein and
her activities in Room A. Back then, they point to

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the case of Kobe Graves, who was under the age
of twenty one, had a loaded Glock ten millimeter handgun
on his person while driving a Honda Sedan. The handgun
was previously reported stolen from Claremont County. Charged with improper
handling of a firearm motive and a motor vehicle receiving
stolen property. Judd Silverstein released him on R bond. Let's

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see what are some of the other ones they put
up here? Hold on, let me dial this up right here,
here's another one. Avery Collins entered a park bus owned
by three sixty Total Care used to transport individuals to
medical appointments, college dam and the bus, or damaged the
bus's security system, then defecated inside the bus, he told

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the owners. After being arrested, he stated, I'm going to
come back and mess you up. Charged with vandalism and menacing,
Released on OAR bond. Then we've got a guy named
Micah Phelps pulled over for a traffic stop at Indian Hill.
Phelps fled in his motor vehicle after well, there's a

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police pursuit, high speed pursuit lasted twenty minutes, speeds hit
in excess of one hundred miles an hour, extensive criminal
history going back to two thousand and four, and released
on OAR bond. And that was Judge Silverstein again. According
to the FOP, Corey, what's up this morning? How you doing?

Speaker 3 (35:29):
Hey, good morning. That's the pattern observer cases like this
like you just mentioned. A lot of our bonds. I've
noticed people get sentence based on if they have money
or not. If the person has no money, they seem
to get pushed through the system, so they are not
a drain on the system. But if somebody has money

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that the system can get, they seem to throw all
sorts of fines and this and that, adam anyway at
the system can to get money them. And it goes
from everything from child support type stuff to more serious
issues as well.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Well, Corey, you noticed that. Yeah, Corey, thanks for the observation.
I appreciate that. And it's interesting you bring up money
because reading about Judge Silverstein, she talks about that's how
she decided to get interested in the law, because she
said homeless people were in shackles in prison clothes and
being sent back to prison for arraiement while students, and

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this is back in her early days, students were in
their own clothes sent to diversion programs. So she wanted
to cure all the inequities that she saw in the program.
Well that's great, say you want to do stuff. But
as I read this piece, I see a lot of
finger pointing here. I see a lot of well, we
don't have this communication. You know, we're unable to do that,
this case that judges don't know, people don't know, Well,

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then fix it. Isn't that why people get elected? You
say you're going to go in, you're going to do
things the right way. Fix it. You're the ones who
were in the system, You're the ones who need to
fix it. Fifty five krc he talks these America.

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Good morning, six oh six on this Wednesday morning, Dan
Carril and for Brian Thomas just spent the last couple
of segments, two or three segments reading the piece of
the Enquirer this morning. Man was wanted before, wanted before
Alyssa Hill was stabbed? Why he wasn't in jail? And

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the more I look at it, though, just the more
upset I get about it. If you have any thoughts
on a five, one, three, seven, four, nine, fifty five hundred,
but it's it's just a sick thing to me that
we're going to have a judge who was perfectly fine,
was sitting there talking about well, you know, we didn't

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didn't know. The Probation Department was not following up on this,
the acknowledging that we have gaps in the system that
allowed this guy to remain free. That misdemeanor Warren's like
the one this guy was on get the lowest priority.

(38:28):
I understand they're busy down there. I know there's a
lot going on. And the idea that we let so
many people out, that we are so lax and enforcing
what's supposed to be in place. And if the system
isn't working, and you can't just sit there and point

(38:52):
fingers at got to take action's while you're there. And
so this is and the and the one part of
the story. And I've been just sort of rescanning this
during the break, but one part of this story really

(39:12):
should be a wake up call and tells me why
action needs to be taken now. And it's this part
of the story. This is the second notable case this
year in which a person had an outstanding misdemeanor warrant

(39:32):
that police did not act upon, which ended in a
tragic killing. And then they go on to talk about
this story in Avondale where Jesse Wilson waited outside his
girlfriend's apartment and shot her to death. Okay, now we

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have We have one shot to death, one stab to death.
Is that a wake up call? Is that enough for
a wake up And I'm talking to every single person
who's involved in the system. You know, you got to
stop with the excuse making, stop with the workarounds. It

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seems to me that we had a system in place
one time that was very efficient. You cut off your
ankle monitor, you don't show up for your probation hearing,
you don't follow the rule, you don't go to the
halfway house, you don't complete your treatment. That's it your back.

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You're locked up again instead of well, you know, maybe
you'll get picked up by police if you commit another crime.
I think there was a time when police on a
daily basis where if they if they weren't actively involved

(41:01):
in an investigation, if there if they weren't actively involved
in uh in stopping a violent crime or any kind
of crime in progress, what were they doing? They had
a whole list of warrants right there. We need to
find this person, that person, Joe, Are we still doing

(41:22):
crime stoppers on every week? I haven't. How come I
haven't done a crime stoppers this week? Oh it's on Friday, Okay,
But when when when I sit here and do the
crime stoppers, Well, police have a warn out for so
and so. So and so is wanting for for this
crime in that crime, those are warrants. If you have

(41:45):
any any information on the whereabouts of Joe Strecker wanted
for passing bad checks, stuff like that. I'm just I
was just thinking of a crime that you would commit.
Joe's Joe. I don't think Joe struck it would commit
a violent crime. Think he's more. I think I think
you're more of a white collar criminal, Joe. I'm giving

(42:08):
you some credit there. You don't do you You don't
not doing the low level stuff. You don't have the
one a breaking and entering. He's doing some some wire fraud,
you know. Yeah, ja, a little jay walking, all right,
But you got my point. And when we talk about
crime starpers, what are we doing? It's always someone that's

(42:30):
got a war. Now where are they? Where? You gotta
gotta find them? Finding people with warrants. You know, it
may not and they may not be sexy. He may
not be glamorous. You know, maybe not the most exciting
work in the world, but for God's sake, it's got
to be done. Second, the second one this year. Those

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are two lives that are gone forever, two families who
are without their loved ones anymore. Who's who are who
are going to suffer every day for the rest of
their lives. And that's only the tip of the Iceberg.

(43:19):
Judge Silverstein has done a service here by letting everyone
know that the system that that she is engaged in,
that she is a major part of, is not working.
Read the piece for yourself and come to your own conclusions.

(43:41):
But that is my conclusion, is that the system doesn't work.
They know it doesn't work. They but but but yet
they they go in day after day after day and look,
God bless them.

Speaker 4 (44:00):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
There was a time in my reporter life when part
of my job was to go down to Room May
on a regular basis, and uh and and I and
you would sit there and it's it's not the same
way now, But back then you had hundreds of people.
The case would get called up, people who look like
they've been out on the street all night. Uh. They

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they'd get walked in there, stand before the judge. Oh,
here here's the crime weapon under disability, breaking and entering. Uh,
you know, broke a window. Whatever the case may be,
and they would be dealt with in that in that
room a hearing. But now to hear others talk about it,

(44:46):
I have not been to room ay in a while,
but to hear others talk about it. You look at
the the video when they bring these individuals in and
the place that looks like it's deserted because people are
not getting arrested for this low level stuff. And so
the longer these individuals can go out and keep committing
these little petty crimes. And what do we talk about yesterday?

(45:08):
Crimes that get reported, Crimes that don't get reported. And
there are probably a lot more crimes that don't get
reported than do get reported, or at least if they
get reported, they don't get acted upon because police are told, hey,
you know, you let that one go. Not not enough

(45:30):
for us to worry about, and why should police. It's
a human emotion, it's human nature to and I would
think this. Look, I'm not a cop, but I would
think that if you're a cop and you go out
and you arrest people and you know they're committing these crimes,

(45:51):
and then they're back out on the street before you
get your paperwork done, it's human nature. To say, why
should I bother because you know what's going to happen.
And so when you have these people with these low
level crimes like this dude was committing. Into my way
of thinking, some of the crimes that he was committing

(46:16):
in the past aren't really not all that low level.
To my way of thinking. Attacking a police officer is
not a low level crime. But yet again and again
and again he was in the system, out of the
system on probation. I had active warrants. Now we know
we can't waste our time going and tracking these people

(46:38):
down forrence. That should be that should be a part
of the everyday grind, from police on the street, to
the prosecutor's office, to the judges, to the probationary system,
all the rest of it. And obviously it's not happening.
The second one this year, the second one this year,

(46:58):
according to the Inquirer, And that should be a wake
up call and if it's not, then there should be
hell to pay for it. Six sixteen fifty five KRC
The talk Station our.

Speaker 4 (47:12):
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Speaker 2 (47:27):
Six twenty. On this Wednesday morning, Dan Carroll for Brian
Thomas about ten minutes from now, I'll be talking with
Tinda Daskovich, the CEO and co founder of Moms for Liberty.
She was at the hearing yesterday involving the Southern Poverty
Law Center. A little breaking news this morning. There's a
people had to be evacuated from a sixteen story apartment

(47:47):
building early this morning, according to the fire chief. Fox
nineteen has the has the story A ten Matts in place,
East Price Hill sixteen apartment building, one hundred and twenty
one units. Fire chief Frank McKinley said, I guess they
got everyone out of there. The Italian fine dining restaurant

(48:09):
Pima Vista is on the building's first floor. One hundred
and fifty people evacuated. Looking at pictures of the building,
doesn't look like it's a huge there's some kind of fire,
but it doesn't look like it's a huge fire. But
fire crews found smoke on different floors when they arrived

(48:29):
a little after two o'clock this morning, So it looks
like they got everyone out of there safe and it
doesn't look like from the outside, doesn't look like a
ton of damage, but the inside might be a different story.
Let's see the acting head The interim head of the
Southern Poverty Law Center is a guy named Brian K. Fair,

(48:52):
and so he had an opening statement, and this is
what he said to the committee last July. It took
a one year leave from my university professorship to become
the interim head of the Southern Poverty Law Center. So
my testimony will be one of my last official acts
before returning to teaching. It's been one of the greatest
honors of my life. For fifty five story years, with

(49:14):
the support of generoust owners who respect and appreciate our work,
the SPLC has fought racial terror, white supremacy, and other
forms of discrimination and hate seeking to build and defend
a multi racial democracy where we can all thrive. That
was the goal of the civil rights movement and it

(49:36):
is our mission. We're best known for our work exposing
and dismantling extremist hate groups. We took on the United
Clans of America, the group whose hateful violence killed four
little girls at the Sixteenth Street Baptist Church bombing, and
we sued them out of existence. Well, that may be true,
it probably is true, but the indictment shows that you

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have been paying groups like this instead of fighting against them.
In the decades since our founding, hate has continued, but
so have our efforts to expose it through litigation, policy, research, education.
We fight for the underdog, the poor, the unhoused, the hungary,
the incarcerated, disenfranchised, the immigrant, the alkaist, the hated, and
the vilified. Many groups and some in this room have

(50:22):
misrepresented our work, including our Confidential Informant program. Oh, the
Confidential Informant Program, regularly repeating false allegations. Some say we've
lost our way, but we've never lost our north star,
fair and just society for every person. All our programs
advanced that mission well. The Southern Pomary Law Center, one

(50:46):
of the things they do is they put out their
heat map and they update it with regularity, and many
many groups like the one I'm going to have on
here in just a few minutes, Moms for Liberty. Moms
for Liberty is a group of exactly what they say.
They are their mothers whose primary concern is education and

(51:07):
parental rights, and so they have a profound disagreement with
the issue of sexualizing young kids in schools. And some
of the books that they targeted, some of the books
that they pointed out have these overly sexualized themes in them,

(51:29):
including Joe, can I say oral sex on the air?
Can I say that? Okay? Things like that and even worse,
even other types of sexual activity in explicit terms and illustrations.
And so the moms came out against these types of books,
and the Southern Policy Law Center called them a hate group,

(51:52):
much like Turning Point USA. Joe, what kind of hate
did the Turning Point USA engage in? Charlie Kirk would
go around to different universities and do what he would
talk with kids, and he would say, here is my
position on this issue. Tell me where I'm wrong, and
he would engage in the body of work is out there.

(52:15):
You can see what Charlie Kirk did and that led
to his assassination and that they were called a hate
group by the Southern Poverty Law Center. So, you know,
this guy's claims that the Southern Poverty Law Center was
doing all this good work, that they're just trying to,
you know, stand up for the disenfranchised and the underprivileged

(52:37):
and those who have been discriminated against. Sorry, mister fair,
it doesn't really ring all that true. But Tina Dyskovic
was there and we'll get her take on how the
whole thing went down yesterday. Right after this on fifty
five KRC de Talk station, Your Morning Cup of Sean

(53:05):
fifty five KRC the talk station Dan Carol for Brian
Thomas and joined now by the co founder and CEO
of Moms for Liberty, Teena Daskovich and Tina. I know
you're in DC. I know you've been super busy the
last several days. But thank you so much for joining
us this morning. It is so great to have you here.
How are you doing this morning?

Speaker 6 (53:24):
Fabulous? It's just my pleasure to join you today.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Well, thank you so much for being here. I texted
you yesterday and I said, did you see the hearing
with the head of the Southern Poverty Law Center And
you told me you were there. You were there in
the room, and I was like, wow, I got a
asker to be on the show, and here you are
this morning. Take us inside the hearing room yesterday. What
was your experience.

Speaker 6 (53:48):
Oh, there were a lot of flittings being thrown, that's
for sure. Jasmine Crockett is a very bad person. I
am one hundred percent sure of that. And just a
lot of praise for doctor Elvita King, and let's see
Congressman Harris out of North Carolina and Congressman Tom Tiffany
out of Wisconsin, or the heroes of the day at
least for Moms for Liberty.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Yeah. Tom Tiffany asked specifically the Southern for the head
of the Southern Poverty Law Center, Mister Fair, why did
the Southern Poverty Law Center put Moms for Liberty on
their hate map?

Speaker 6 (54:21):
Wasn't thought fabulous? And did you watch him? He struggled because,
in my opinion, watching him, I don't think he knows
much about us, and he couldn't come up.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
Out his answer showed that he knows absolutely nothing about
Mom's reliberty.

Speaker 6 (54:37):
Of course, I mean he said, well they banned books,
and I'm like, oh, really, But he was looking at
his notes and so, and then I just thought, does
he even realize that we make up twenty percent of
their hate map and forty percent of their anti government extremists?
Like he is he down in the weeds looking at
what they're doing to folks. And so when congress and

(54:57):
Mark Harris chimed in and read the stories of one
of our moms, you know, we submitted one hundred and
twenty five pages of testimony at the last hearing, another
forty five this hearing, he picked one and Rosalind Hanson
and Montgomery Kenny Maryland, and she was there with me
in the audience, and he shared the story. And I
hope that man from SBLC was listening, because I don't.

(55:18):
I wonder if they realize what they're.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Doing to people well, and I don't think they do.
And I was I didn't get to watch the hearing
I saw. I saw a lot of clips of it,
and so when I first started watching some of the clips, initially,
initially I was I was feeling a little bit sorry
for mister Fair, Brian K. Fair, who because he's the
interim president CEO, so he hasn't been there the whole time.

(55:44):
But then I read his opening statement and I saw
some of the answers that he was providing. So even
though he's only and he's going back to his teaching job,
I guess come July, but he has been there long
enough to know, oh what the SPLC has been up to.
He's been there long enough to understand how they are

(56:06):
completely mischaracterizing groups like yours, groups like Turning Point USA
and others, how they are doing this completely unfairly, and
how much of a detriment this has been to you
and people who really want nothing more than to pursue
your First Amendment rights and state clearly the issues that

(56:28):
you feel passionate about.

Speaker 6 (56:31):
Absolutely, and it's my nature. I'm going to be to
my own heart's nature to be really nice and so
and understanding and compassionate, and so I too had thoughts
like that. But then you have to remember they put
Charlie Kirk on the hate map and within sixty days
Charlie Kirk was dead. They put FRC on the hate map,
and a man testified after he was convicted that he

(56:54):
went in because the SPLC put FRC on their hate map,
and he went in and he shot the security guard.
But his intent was to kill everybody that worked there
and stuff their mouths with Chick fil A sandwiches after
they were dead. So what they're doing is, you know,
inspiring hate and death, and they put us on there. Again,

(57:16):
We're twenty percent of their entire map, and it's dangerous
and they need to be held accountable.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
He says, We've never lost our north star, a fair
and just society for every person, and all of our
programs have advanced that mission. That, to me, is an
absolute falsehood about what the Southern pop Law Center has
degenerated into.

Speaker 6 (57:37):
When he said that, I leaned over to my team
and said, except for us, just fair and guests for all,
except for anybody that disagrees, Except for just moms trying
to make America a better place. And at the end,
I tried to go up and speak to him. I
don't think he's ever met anybody from Moms for Liberty,
but his team surrounded him, protected him, would not let

(57:59):
him have access to anyone. And I wasn't going to
go up to be rude. I was just going to
be like, sir, you know which moms can you? Can
you sit down with us and see what's happening. Can
you read our one hundred and twenty five pages, or
at least scan them and see what the impact is
of the work that you're doing.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
Well, I'm sure he would have no interest in having
us sit down with your organization.

Speaker 6 (58:20):
You're probably right. I tend to want to see the
best in people. I just I guess maybe I'm just
when I say I'm sure he doesn't know how nice
we really are you know, like he didn't care. They
just they just want to They just want to make money,
They just want power, they just want influence. It's really disgusting.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
All right, Tina Dskovich Moms for Liberty, Can you hold
on for a quick break and we'll be right back
to it. Okay, Yes, all right, stay right there and
we'll continue on on fifty five KRCV talk station.

Speaker 7 (58:49):
Please be advised you may want to stop eating the
following foods immediately.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
The talk station fifty five krc the talk station continuing
with Tina Tokovich Moms for Liberty and Tina talk a
little bit about when a group like yours gets put
on the Southern Poverty Law Center Hate Map. What are
some of the real world consequences of that. How does

(59:12):
that affect your organization?

Speaker 6 (59:14):
Well, it's devastating to the individuals in the organization. The
fact that we've been able to survive, grow and thrive
under this title is honestly a miracle because obviously, folks,
it has consequences, like with Charlie Kirk, he was killed,
and so folks are afraid to join whence you're on

(59:37):
the list, They're afraid of losing their jobs, they're afraid
for their lives, they're afraid of being docks and harassed.
The list is endless of general things that have happened,
including docs, harassed, hire, slash. You could go from the
top to the bottom of everything bad that could happen,
finding locations to hold events all the chapters across the
country international organization. Once they find you're on the hate map,

(01:00:01):
they'll cancel you and not allow you to have your
events there. Debank de platform our chapters, Trying to find
people to our banks to open accounts for their legal
chapters filed almost impossible. And then there's the personal things.
And one of our chairs, like I said, Congressman Harris
shared this story last night of in her custody hearing

(01:00:23):
her ex husband used the SPLC label of hate map
in their custody battle, and it's in the court documents.
We submitted them as evidence saying that she was the
head of a chapter of a SPLCA designated hate group
and therefore unfit. And you can just see what happens
from there.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
Yeah, when Jim Jordan started asking his questions about the
allegations contained in the indictment about the SPLC paying these
organizations going to extremist rallies, paying people to burn cross
is where the KKK uniform, all these sorts of things.

(01:01:05):
It didn't seem like mister Fair had had a lot
of answers for him.

Speaker 6 (01:01:10):
No, he just kept saying, it's a current investigation. I'm
sure they gave him the talking point. The guy sitting
directly behind him actually pulled his chair. It was weird,
like out of the line of chairs behind of people
that could watch, the guy behind him pulled his chair
way up close to him, couldn't sit next to him,
but he was like right in his ear. I'm asserting

(01:01:30):
that was maybe they had attorney or his attorney, and
I'm sure he gave him the line to resort to
when he didn't want to answer a question, and that
was I'm sorry, it's a current investigation and I can't
answer that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Yeah. How about Jasmine Crockett attacking al Vida King.

Speaker 8 (01:01:47):
It actually.

Speaker 6 (01:01:50):
It's hard to make me mad. And Jasmine Crockett called
Alvida King a prop that we paraded.

Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
I know Alita.

Speaker 6 (01:01:59):
Personally and she is a beautiful human being, a lovely woman,
and accused her of just being used as a prop
to come in and Alvita doesn't do anything that she
doesn't want to do and believe in. And so Lena
Alvida had the opportunity to respond, and Jasmine didn't give
her the opportunity to responding to their congressman had his

(01:02:20):
time up, Selvida could respond. She spoke with the power
of God and talked about love, and she said, I
am not a bastard of the King family. I am
the daughter of and she named her father's name, who's
the brother of doctor mart Luther King. And it was
probably the most part. It brought tears to all of
our eyes. It was probably the most powerful moment of
the whole hearing.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
Yeah, were there any Democrats on that panel, to your
way of thinking yesterday who took this matter seriously and
saw to advance the issue or get a better understanding
of the issue, or allow their constituents to have a
better understanding of the issue, or was it a strictly
political grandstanding.

Speaker 6 (01:03:00):
Absolutely not. They've fucked mostly. I would says they take
their five minutes, that they get some of them drop
in the hearing room speak for five minutes. I've been
ask any questions just to get their talking points on
records so I'm sure they can make clips and send
back home, you know. And some of them got up
and talked about January sixth, Some of them got up

(01:03:21):
and talked about oh, Trump University and what a fraud
that was, Like, what does that have to do with
anything that the SPLC has done. It's a little bit
infuriating that they won't pick it seriously.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
All right, Tina Disco was just a couple of minutes
left here. I want to switch gears quickly and talk
a little bit about Scott Pelly and I want to
kick this little segment off with one of Scott Pelley's
more memorable moment moments with Moms for Liberty joke. Can
we hear a little bit of cut four? Please?

Speaker 6 (01:03:48):
We love teachers. My children have had the best teachers.
I've had the greatest teachers that have influenced and impact me.
But there are rogue teachers in America's classrooms right now.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Rogue teachers, rogue teachers.

Speaker 6 (01:03:58):
Parents send their children to school to be edge, not
indoctrinated into ideology.

Speaker 9 (01:04:02):
What ideology are they being indoctrinated into.

Speaker 6 (01:04:07):
Let's just say children in America cannot read.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
They often dodged questions with talking points. Okay, that we get,
we get a little, we got the flavor of that.
But that whole issue where that whole episode of sixty
minutes Tina Dyskovich so disgraceful, the way they edited that,
the way they put it together, the way they went

(01:04:32):
over and above beyond the call of duty to make
Moms for Liberty look as terrible as they possibly could.

Speaker 6 (01:04:41):
People keep playing clips. You know, that was a year
ago or two now, I can't remember, but people keep
playing clips and I'm like, oh, I forgot that part.
I forgot that part, and I get so mad again.
I wasn't even nearly mad enough after what they did
to us. It was just one more thing that people
had done to us. But now in hide sight, I
that and I get some of that specific question that

(01:05:02):
you just played. That was the like the third or
the fourth time he asked me that question, and I
answered it perfectly and honestly, probably two or three times.
They knew what they were doing. They've been doing this
for thirty years, you know, Simmy and I've been doing
it like a year, and we knew we were going
into the chopping block, but we wanted our story. Heard

(01:05:22):
you know if we can get through through just a
couple of people. And so at that point that's why
I paused, and I was like, let's just say kids
can't read because he and they broke me is what
they did. And then he din'd he clipped that one
and made it sound like I refused to answer the question.
It was so dishonest, boo.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Isn't isn't it though? Isn't it went? Once you get
behind the scenes and you see and and look, you're
not gonna You're not gonna shed any tears or lose
any sleep about Scott Pelly no longer being with with
CBS for sixty minutes, But isn't it? Isn't it disheartening
to see the way the television works and see the
manipulation that goes on behind the scenes to what the

(01:06:02):
finished product is that gets presented to the viewers.

Speaker 6 (01:06:06):
Yeah, it's honestly, Scott Pelly losing his job is like
you said, no, I'm not going to lose any sleep
or any tears over that one. But it's happening. It's pervasive,
it's everywhere. It's not just him. There's a lot more
that needs to be done, all.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
Right, Tina Discovich. I know you've got your own podcast
that starts in about a half an hour from now.
And what are you going to be talking about today?

Speaker 6 (01:06:31):
Oh, we have our chapter chair from kaya Hoga, Ohio
as my guest. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:06:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:06:39):
She's also been harassed and all of the things shut
down at a library where she was trying to hold
an event last year, So we're going to cover some
of that. We're going to probably talk about the hearing
today and what it's like to be a chapter leader
of Moms to Liberty.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
All right, And if people want to find your podcast
and more about you and Mom's for Liberty, where do
they do that?

Speaker 6 (01:06:56):
The show is of Liberty. It's on Apple and Spotify,
but it's live on all the Mom's Liberty social media
accounts and we're on everything, and of course they can
find me Tina Dskovic if you can spell it on
on Ax and Facebook.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
Tina, thank you so much for taking the time to
be with I always love having you on. Keep up
the great work, and Mom's for Liberty is doing such
great stuff. I just can't thank you enough for being
here and all the best to you, and I hope
we get a chance to talk again. Before too long.

Speaker 6 (01:07:24):
Absolutely, thank you, sir.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
All Right, there you go. Tina Dskovich Disco. I call
her Diskovic however you pronounce it. But she is just
an outstanding person and I can't thank her enough for
being here this morning. Six forty seven, fifty five KRCV
talk station. Some people say soccer culture doesn't exist fifty
five KRCD talk station. Not a ton of time here

(01:07:47):
before we get to the break news top of the hour.
Than Jack Atherton with the Big Picture. With Jack Atherton,
he's got some thoughts about the Spanish inquisition, Joe, Do
we know why Jack has thoughts on that today? You
never know ahead of time why Jack has the thoughts
that he does, but he does have that in we
will all find out together as we look forward to

(01:08:08):
hearing from our buddy Jack Atherton in McKinney, Texas, Camarlo Anthony.
He was sobbing in court yesterday because he was swiftly
convicted of the fatal stabbing of a fellow high school
high schooler, Aston Austin Metcalf. This happened to attract me,
this situation, This case got a lot of national attention.

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The jury deliberated only about three hours before they found him,
nineteen years old, guilty of first degree murder in the
death of the seventeen year old. Now the jury must
decide whether to put him away for life, prompting the
killer's weeping mom to later take the witness stand and

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beg for mercy. According to there were no court There
were no cameras in the courtroom.

Speaker 9 (01:08:56):
Joe.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
I thought there should have been cameras in the courtroom
for this trial. But apparently, and you know what, maybe
it's a good thing that they didn't, because it according
to everything that I read about this trial, there's just
no question. I looked. This kid was under there's a
pop up tent at a track meet. This guy was

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with I guess with a different team, different high school,
and he was under the team's tent. They asked him
many many times to leave, and apparently he just started
threatening and escalating the situation the entire time, pulled out
a knife and stabbed this guy in the heart. And
a kid is dead. His mom said, he's my oldest
will always be my baby. I love him very much.

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And so the jury went on to further deliberations to
talk about the sentence. And so, I mean one witness
after another. We're talking about how you know this guy
was the aggressor, this guy was the agitator, this guy
was the one who escalated the situation. And so you've

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got all kinds of people out there outside the courthouse
who were, you know, talking about Carmelo Anthony was not
guilty and that he was the victim. He was defending
himself and the evidence showed that that simply was not true.
So found guilty and we'll find out. We'll find out

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what what kind of sentence he's going to get. Meanwhile,
the demonstrators outside the courtroom, I don't know if things
really I know there was some some heated exchanges yesterday.
I don't know, it doesn't look like things really got
completely out of hand, but I know there was there
was one guy who said the only the only good
cracker is a dead cracker. And so that gives you

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a little a little insight as to the way that
debate was going on. Six fifty five fifty five KRC
the talk station Americle seven six on this Wednesday morning,

(01:11:11):
Dan Carroll in for Brian Thomas. One more day for me,
Harry Jeff Walker be here Thursday and Friday. Thank you
so much for Joe Strecker for allowing me to sit here.
And I have to admit I've been holding onto this little,
this little blurb since Monday, when I knew we were
going to have our conversation with Jack Atherton. And it

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is this. Pop star Madonna sixty seven years old, kicked
off this year's Pride Month by posting a video on
her Instagram account. It shows her crawling around in front
of the toilet, stating that you don't want to see
my bleep as she stuffs her breast back into her dress.
She then leans into the camera and whispers Happy Pride,
before blowing a kiss and cigarette smoke at the camera

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and Jack, all I can say is you dodged a
bullet on that one, buddy.

Speaker 9 (01:12:00):
Those were the days, so I did better. My wife didn't,
but I did better. It's going to be back with you, Dan, Jack.
If Brian is listening at home, hang in there, buddy,
to give our pale laugh. I came up with something
you mentioned, Madonna. But let's remind everybody of an old

(01:12:22):
Monty Python sketch. Dan, are you a Python fan?

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
I love a little Monty Python.

Speaker 9 (01:12:29):
Yeah, A little goes a long way, but I missed them.
The boys are back in the news. We're hearing the
Iran war is a little bit like Maty Python and
the Holy Grail. The knight who loses one arm and
then the other, then both of his legs uses to
give up disrupting us. That's the Mumma's in the I

(01:12:53):
r G.

Speaker 6 (01:12:53):
Sir.

Speaker 9 (01:12:53):
I hope, I hope for not much longer. I hope
President Trump will realize they have to be gone. But
we've talked about that. Let's talk now about a mony
Python TV sketch. A guy being given the third degree
by his wife sputters, well, I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition.

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That's when four cardinals burst in and Michael Palin yells.

Speaker 7 (01:13:19):
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition. It's good for a laugh,
but the actual Inquisition was no joke, and thinking about
it shows what our founders really were up against in
seventeen seventy six and how today's Democrat socialists want to
take us back to Spain. The Inquisition began in the

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fourteen hundreds to maintain Catholic Orthodoxy. The inquisitors kicked out
Muslims and Jews, then they tortured Christian heretics. For mony
Python that means making heretics sit in comfy chairs. No,
not the comfy chair. The actual methods of torture and
execution are nothing we can talk about.

Speaker 9 (01:14:01):
On Mourning radio. And it wasn't just Spain. Civil wars
between Catholics and Protestants throughout Europe took about twelve million
lives back when populations were much smaller. That's why our
English pilgrims fled to the New World. The Pilgrims were Protestants,
but when it was the Catholics turn to be persecuted

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by England's new Protestant Church, they came here too. Lord
Baltimore's chartered land was called the Maryland Catholic Colony. The
point is that religious freedom and toleration are what America
has always been about. From that followed freedom of speech,
a peaceful assembly, and all the rest of the Bill

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of Rights. Unlike Europe, where most countries had a state religion,
the First Amendment explicitly outlaws the establishment of a state religion.
Although this has been wrongly interpredud you know Dan to
mean that government cannot support religion. Generally, it can't have
anything to do with religion, but that's another topic. The

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irony today is the followers of Karl Marx, who said
religion is the opiate of the masses. Marxists are the
biggest supporters of big government that acts like the Spanish Inquisition.
America's founders believe that individual rights and responsibilities proceed and

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are the foundation of government. By sharp contrast, big government
leftists following the French writer Rousseau. I think we're going
to talk about him next week because he's one of
the founders of the left. Rousseau believed the collective will
of the state takes precedence over individual rights, speech, and beliefs.

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A better writer than Rousseau, who understood this divide better
than most anyone. The Russian novelist Dostoevsky in The Brothers
Karamasov includes a parable of a Grand Inquisitor Brian loves
to part during the Spanish Inquisition. The Inquisitor arrests Jesus

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when he returns to Earth for the crime of giving
men and women too much freedom. Instead of letting people
choose sin over salvation, the Grand Inquisitor imposes authority, a
government mandate, and burns anyone who fails to follow his dictates.
Like all authoritarians stan, including today's Marxists, the inquisitor was

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right to fear Jesus. He did teach that we have
free will, and within obvious limits, must be allowed the
freedom to exercise it. For instance, the Gospel of Matthew
tells us that Jesus was tempted by Satan to turn
stones into bread and to rule all the kingdoms of
the world. But while Jesus did free some of his

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followers and he did feed them, he never sought to
feed them all. Jesus did not buy their faith. And
at the bar High, when a young man asked how
to gain eternal life, Jesus told him to obey God's commandments,
sell all he owned, and give the proceeds to the poor.
Sad and hearing this because he was rich, the young

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man exercised his freedom to just walk away. Not all
of our founders were Christians. Thomas Jefferson, the principal author
of the Declaration of Independence, was a Deist. Like Spinoza,
Jefferson believed God was creation. They were synonymous, and God
did not change the laws of nature to direct man's affairs.

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So the Bible that Jefferson edited for his own use,
leaves out miracles. However, like Jesus, Jefferson believed in freedom,
he opposed divine right monarchs like George the Third. He
opposed mandates, censorship, anything that would require us to march
in lockstep, not to say, goose step, even if politicians

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and their paymasters are bribing us with handouts to ruin
our character and make us more dependent on big governments, because,
as the Python Boys realized, when it robs you of
ambition and personal responsibility, there's nothing more to humanizing than
a handout or a do nothing government job, or a

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comfy chair. Not the comfy chair.

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
What are you saying, a old friend, Jack? As always
your comments are always thought provoking, And about halfway through
your presentation there I was thinking about, well, this really
correlates to what was going on during the pandemic, and
we had such government overreach at that time, and what

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was going on, Well, we had dictates from on high,
from Washington, d C. From Columbus, Ohio that you must
follow these rules, that you must get tested, you must
get the vaccine, you must follow certain certain government dictates
in order to do what in order to have a job,
in order to be part of society in order not

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to be docked, in order not to be de banked
or deplatformed on social media. So I think this was
probably the clearest example that we have of a government
trying to exercise the exact same kind of powers you
lay out there when you talk about the Spanish Inquisition.

Speaker 9 (01:19:32):
And so it's an alln's extremity. Man's extremity is God's opportunity,
and the Left changes that to man's extremity is government's opportunity.

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
Absolutely, and and and look these to my way of thinking,
these people are still out there and they look to
increase government power at every single turn. I mean, it
was not long ago we were told what the hantavirus
was coming after us, and this may be another COVID

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nineteen situation. Then we had the Ebola outbreak in Africa
or wherever the heck that was going on, and we
were told, well, that may be coming to the United States.
And I think I think the reaction of the American people,
at least to this point Jack has been to know
we're not going down that road again. I think that

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memory is still fresh in the mind of the American
people that by and large we are going to stand
up to being under the thumb of this type of
government control.

Speaker 9 (01:20:38):
Again, this crisis goes way beyond diseases. It all boils
down to and whether you want a top down or
a bottom up government. Our founders chose the latter. But
democracy requires free and fair elections. And look what's happened
in California, just like Minnesota with Al Franken years ago,

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Arizona with Katie Hobbs, the discrepancies and late ballots without
any need for id never ends until a Democrat has
declared the winner or two Democrats in Los Angeles, as
Gavin Newsom gloated on camera, Democrats had what Greasy called
a break the glass plan. That's the phrase he used,

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to break the glass plan to guarantee a Republican would
never win in Los Angeles or even appeer on the
November ballot. If you're a Republican sunk in a deep
blue state, you might as well be a muddy python,
dead parrot.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
Jack. Yeah, you always have the best way of putting stuff.
Are you going to hang around for one more segment?

Speaker 9 (01:21:45):
Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
All right, all right, let's go ahead and get to
a quick break and we'll continue on twenty. On this
Wednesday morning, Joe Strecker says, this the perfect song for Jack. Well,
I don't know about that, but it's still a great
song Jack. It's interesting. I was reading a piece where

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the author quotes quote by Elena Gorkova when characterizing life
in the Soviet Union, and the quote is this, The
rules are simple. They lie to us. We know they're lying,
they know we know they are lying, but they keep
lying to us, and we keep pretending to believe them.
The Russians even have a word call for it. It's
called veranyo, a lie that everyone knows is a lie,

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but pretends otherwise. And so I think that's as a society,
and especially in politics now, and especially as it relates
to our elections these days, we know that there are
lies going on, but for some reason we pretend otherwise,
and we just let it keep perpetuating itself.

Speaker 9 (01:22:54):
It's not just the Soviet Union, and it's not just elections.
It starts as early as you can imagine. We have
public schools that pretend to teach children and push them
all the way through high school and give them diplomas,
and we don't require the kind of songs that I
like that they used to call standards. We don't have

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standards and songs, and we don't have standards in education.
A lot of lion going around.

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
A lot of lion going around. And now we have
the specter of the Democrats with more than seventy percent support,
have elected a guy who bears a Nazi tattoo on
his chest. And look, the guy wants to have a tattoo,
Fine and dandy. I don't care. But I think we
know now that when you talk about the lack of standards,

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that when it comes to having standards, or it comes
to at least trying to seek the moral high ground
on a particular issue, the Democrats will keep trying to
do that. But to any rational way of thinking, because
of this election result, I say that they've lost that
ability to seek that moral high ground when it comes

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to arguing a political position.

Speaker 9 (01:24:06):
What seventeen seventy six was all about, on one level
in Philadelphia and eleven years later in that same city
was compromise. That's a dirty word to a lot of people,
but it's what we had to do because the thirteen
colonies had very different interests. Slavery was the most obvious,
but there were many others. The little states were worried

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that the big states would completely swamp them. So we
had to come up with the system at the Constitutional
Convention that everybody could accept. We've come to a point
in our country and we have to change course or
we won't have a country where it's impossible to compromise.
We can't get anything done, and it's not just as
between Republicans and Democrats. I think one of the reasons

(01:24:48):
that President Trump has been very frustrated lately, and we're
seeing it in his attitude toward Iran, is that he
feels he cannot work, he cannot get any kind of
response he can work with from the establishment. Some would
say the rhino wing of his own party. We're simply
not reaching compromises.

Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
Well, Jack, I constantly refer to a time in America
when look, we've always had political differences, but you talk
about it compromise because I think in the end, no
matter what your political affiliation was, no matter what your idea,
ideological outlook was, in the end, we all wanted to
get to the same place. We all wanted what was

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best for the country, what was best for America, because
everyone understood that the ideas behind America were worth We're
worth having and worth promoting and worth carrying on. But
I don't think we can compromise anymore because especially the
left in this country, I don't think they want to
get to the same place as those of us on

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the other side.

Speaker 9 (01:25:51):
One of the problems is, you know, our profession the media,
where now at a point where we left and the
right separately live in hermetically sealed chambers. We're not hearing
what the other side is saying. It's a problem for
the right as well as for the left. Everybody goes
to hear themselves and their opinions confirmed affirmed by whatever

(01:26:14):
their media sources. I've done a piece for Brian about
the history of media and the fact that we used
to have what were recognized going all the way back
to eighteen hundred as left and right newspapers. But you
know what people used to do, and this was one
of the shining marks of America. We used to go

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to town meetings. The great French writer, not Rousseau, but
Alexis to Topeville in the eighteen thirties wrote about the
fact that America was unique because we started out not
from the top, not from the king, not from the legislature,
but on the town meeting level. That's what the Pilgrims had.
They came up with a charter while they were still

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on the boat coming to America, and that became really
one of the abiding graces of America. And people would
have to debate. Now we have candidates on the left
and the right. Candidate on the right is ahead who
won't debate one another. That does not spell any kind

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of formula for eventual compromise.

Speaker 2 (01:27:20):
All right, Jack, we'll have to leave it there. It
is time for us to go. But as always, great
to have you on, great to hear your voice. And
keep up the great work, my friend, and we'll look
forward to the next Big Picture with Jack Atherton one
week from today.

Speaker 9 (01:27:34):
I love talking with you, Dan, but Brian get.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
Better, all right, Jack Atherton, thank you very much. Seven
six fifty five KRC, The talk station A Minute of
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The talk Station.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
Fifty five KRC, the talk Station seven point thirty on
this Wednesday morning, five three seven four nine seven thousand
up wrong number seven four fifty five hundred. I knew
that was going to roll off the tongue sometime. Uh five, one, three, seven, four, nine,
fifty five hundred. What's the eight hundred number, Joe, eight
hundred A two to three talk if if you want

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to get on board, phone lines are open. Uh No.
The we were talking to j And it's always so
great talking to Jacket. When we used to work together
at Fox nineteen, we just I'd just bring up the
simplest little thing to him and that would lead to
a twenty five or thirty minute discussion on some of
the topics that he loved to expound on, and it

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was so great having those conversations back in the day.
And for a moment, I felt like we are right
back having one of those discussions again. But I always
thought provoking. And I was looking at this piece that
I quoted during our discussion, and we were talking about
how in the Soviet Union they had a simple rule

(01:29:00):
to lie to us. We knew they were lying, they
know we're lying, but we all pretend it's like it's otherwise.
And the writer of the piece, Vince Coyer Conyer, goes
on to write, that's what's been happening in America for decades,
the Democrats have been using mail in ballots, voting machines,
endless recounts to steal elections right in front of us.

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It's the theft that everyone is supposed to pretend that's
not happening. Then there's the Senate. The same week, the
Senate took a shot at the Save America Act and
it was defeated. Voting with Democrats were the foremost despicable
vermin in the Senate, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, Mitch McConnell,
and Tom Tillis. Even if they had voted with the GOP,

(01:29:43):
it would have failed because the TDS afflicted John Thune
Trump arrangement syndrome? John Thune, do you think John Tune
has Joe? Do you think John Tune has Trump arrangement syndrome?
Maybe a mild case right now? Have you seen James
Carvill lately? I mean that guy. Now you talk about afflicted,

(01:30:04):
That guy has got it in space. But John Thune
refused to get rid of the filibuster. Congress's failure to
provide for secure elections has been as a disaster for
Republicans and the republic Not only is California economic and
cultural train wreck. But a Republican hasn't won a state
ride race in twenty years since Arnold Schwarzenegger won reelection.

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But at least they have seven House seats out of
fifty two in a state with a twenty five percent
GOP electricate. In New England, the GOP's twenty four percent
of the electric gets exactly zero of the region's twenty
one House seats, and the one Senator out of twelve
is another Democrat in rhino clothing, Susan Collins. She has
a liberty score of twenty, which is even with AOC

(01:30:50):
and below ilhan Omar. That's out of one hundred. Thomas
Massey's scored, by the way, is ninety six, and he's
going to be coming up here at the top of
the hour. The failure is at the core of everything
that is going wrong with America right now. There is
literally nothing more important in twenty twenty six than getting
the Save America Act passed. Donald Trump came to power

(01:31:13):
promising to take on the establishment. In his first term,
he played by the marquise of Queensberry Rules and much
of his agenda with stonewalled. Then the election was what
it was, and Joe Biden rolled back most of the
little that he did accomplish. Then in twenty twenty four,
Trump ran again, and we expected that after years of

(01:31:34):
being targeted both literally and figuratively, he would take a
wrecking ball to the swamp. But he hasn't. Deficits continue
to grow. It's practically impossible to eliminate even the most
egregious programs, and federal judges usurp executive powers like kids
in a candy store. From deportations to Pentagon decisions to

(01:31:55):
the seventeen seventy six front. There's barely an initiative that
some leftish judge hasn't stopped. In the Senate, Republicans have
actively stopped him from making recess appointments by gabbling Infoe Sessions,
so they never technically go on recess. That has never
happened before. No president has ever had recess appointments blocked

(01:32:18):
by a Senate controlled by his own party. All of
this is happening because Congress has shirked its constitutional responsibility.
Fair and free elections are not speed limits, or property taxes,
or any of the other things that are constitutionally in
the purview of states. Fair and free elections are core
to the rights of every single American, regardless of where

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they live. Yet we have fourteen states representing almost forty
percent of the population with no voter ID, representing seventy
three percent of Electoral College votes necessary to win the
White House. And in the issues of voting rolls, machines,
and chain of custody, and it's clear cheating is the

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rule of the day when it comes to voting in
Democrat cities and states. And I think that sums it
up quite well. The Save America Act is the most
important thing that can possibly happen right now. Seven thirty five,
we'll get to a break, and we've got Jay on
the line. If you want to join j five one three,

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Speaker 8 (01:33:30):
You're one stop for advertising called eight four four eight
four four.

Speaker 2 (01:33:34):
iHeart the talk station, all right, fifty five KRCD talk station.
That's the second time today I was trying to send
a text message during the during the break. I am
so slow when it comes to texting. That was twice.

(01:33:58):
I couldn't get it done. I'm just not good with
those things. Let's go to we'll see what Jay has
on his mind or her mind today. Jay, you're on
fifty five KRC. How's it going.

Speaker 5 (01:34:10):
We'll start off with the pronouns.

Speaker 8 (01:34:12):
Is he him?

Speaker 2 (01:34:13):
Thank you for that. I'm making a note of that, Jay,
he him, all.

Speaker 5 (01:34:19):
Right, Yeah, I think that's the first time I've ever
used that, so pill honored.

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
Oh my god, I feel terrible. I'm the one that
prompted you to do that. I feel horrible about that.

Speaker 5 (01:34:28):
Yeah, you got to own that, all right. Hey, I
wanted to I wanted to bring up the I saw
that there was a news article about the Cleveland Clinic
was co operating with the Justice Department. Yes, that they
had decided they're going to stop mutilating children, which is fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:34:42):
I talked about that earlier this week. I'm glad you
were listening.

Speaker 5 (01:34:46):
Yeah, And so Dave Yost came slithering along behind the Feds,
I guess, and he got, you know, a two million
dollar agreement that they're going to put two million dollars
into some sort of fund to help fix these children
that they've mutilated.

Speaker 2 (01:35:02):
Yeah, the d Transitions Fund.

Speaker 8 (01:35:04):
Correct.

Speaker 5 (01:35:05):
Now, Now, Texas, here's the difference between Texas and Ohio.
Texas took down a hospital, same thing. They got ten million.

Speaker 4 (01:35:12):
We settled for two.

Speaker 5 (01:35:14):
And when I did the math on Cleveland Clinic and
you look up what their annual revenue is, the reason
their so cooperative has nothing to do with remorse. The
reason they're so cooperative is they can make the two
million dollars in one hour. So let's just make up
a scenario where there's a guy named Erb who's mutilating
children in his basement. He makes forty bucks an hour.

Speaker 4 (01:35:33):
Jay, Let.

Speaker 2 (01:35:35):
Before we get any further down the road here, let
me just stop you. Right, If memory serves, the two
million dollars is for this program that is going to
serve those who want to treat d transition, who regret
their decision early in life to change their outward appearance.
I'm not going to say change your sex, but to

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change your outward appearance. I think if memory serves, I
can go back and find the piece. If memory serves,
I think the only penalty they paid was it was
like three hundred thousand dollars, which is your absolute chump change.

Speaker 8 (01:36:07):
Yeah, you're absolutely right.

Speaker 5 (01:36:09):
They make two million dollars an hour. And my question
is we're calling this justice we're standing up and giving
the Republican Trump administration Justice Department and the Attorney General's
Office of Ohio a standing ovation. This ought to be
a Nuremberg.

Speaker 2 (01:36:27):
Well, the justice is, yeah, well, I know, I agree. No,
those who perform these procedures should be held to account.
I could not agree with that in any stronger terms.
They need to be held personally liable, I think for
the damage that they caused to these young peoples, these
young people, and maybe that will come down the road.
But the justice is is that finally, at long last,

(01:36:51):
these barbaric procedures are going to stop. And this has
needed to happen for a long long time. And Jay,
let me ask you this, since you seem to be
up on the issue, how long were we lectured to
by Cleveland Clinic, Cincinnati Children's, other hospitals in our area
and around the country that now, these procedures aren't taking place.

(01:37:12):
We're not doing that. You know. We may you know,
they may get a puberty blocker here and there, and
they may get across sex hormone, but the procedures, the
surgeries aren't taking place. How long were we told that that? Lie?

Speaker 5 (01:37:25):
Oh, we were told that many many many times along
with these same Cleveland clinic and doctors and nurses.

Speaker 8 (01:37:31):
That said that you better go.

Speaker 5 (01:37:33):
You know, the wine brought into crying nurses about the
COVID jab But back to this point, So if we
had a serial killer, let's just say that there was
a guy who's mutilating children doing what the Cleveland clinic
did in his basement, took him to trial, and we
were told that they got resolved because he promised not
to do it anymore and he paid one hour. Whatever
he gets paid. He decided to put that up.

Speaker 2 (01:37:54):
That was his penalty.

Speaker 8 (01:37:55):
It was forty five bucks.

Speaker 5 (01:37:56):
If he makes forty five dollars in that, would we
all stand up and cheer and and and cheer on
the Justice Department and they there's there there again is
the Attorney General, Dave Yost. He knew about this medicaid fraud.
How do I know that I called in on that
medicaid fraud hotline to him six times in six years.
They knew exactly what was going on. I saw him

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talking about he's finally happy that he's working with the
federal government and he's starting to to, you know, create
a story and narrative that he just couldn't get anybody
to cooperate with him. I think that these guys in
the Cleveland clinic need to be shut down. And if
we call this justice in this red state with the
DOJ under the Trumpet administration.

Speaker 8 (01:38:39):
All is lost.

Speaker 5 (01:38:40):
If children could be mutilated, and the best we get
is a hospital that's doing it promises not to do
it again, and that's enough.

Speaker 2 (01:38:48):
Well, Jay, and I thank you very much for the call.
And I think you know the example you give is
not exactly the same thing, because these procedures were happening
under the guy, at least initially of being supported by
legitimate medical organizations within the United States and around the world.

(01:39:09):
But over time, as the evidence kept coming in showing
that these procedures were really of no long term benefit
to the individuals who were undergoing these procedures, it turned
out that all the evidence that has come to light
has shown that these procedures should not be taking place,

(01:39:30):
and so for a while there was pushback against that.
And anyone, I think, with any a couple of brain
cells to rub together, can figure out that this is
absolute and mutilation of kids. They are barbaric and they
needed to be stopped. So on one hand, yes, it's
good that they've been stopped. On the other hand, you know, legally,

(01:39:57):
can they be prosecuted for crimes? Maybe? But I think
the more likely scenario, and we've already seen it happen
in some cases, is where those who were mutilated and
ruined for the rest of their lives in certain ways
have been able to seek redress through civil litigation, and

(01:40:20):
these doctors and these clinics and these hospitals that perform
these procedures have been forced to pay, and that is
probably the road that this is going to go down. No,
but I agree with Jay that there should be criminal
liability as well. Seven fifty five KRC, The Talk Station,

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joined John Ruhlman with Coversinc.

Speaker 8 (01:40:43):
Dot Com and Brian Thomas some c the talk station.

Speaker 2 (01:40:55):
All right, fifty five KRC the talk station out in Texas.
You've got this Democrat nominee, James Tallerico and the guy
is just as liberal and woke and DEI driven as
he possibly can be. But now that the primary is

(01:41:15):
over and the general election is on the horizon, well
he's trying to change his stance on a couple of issues.
And what there is a group called Citizens for Sanity
that did a six figure add by in the Senate race,
and they put out a AI generated, an AI generated

(01:41:38):
piece of Tallarico with a catchy little tune, and he's
singing about some of the things that he loves the most,
and you may recognize the melody here. Joe, let's your
cut number two please.

Speaker 10 (01:41:53):
Boys in white dresses with blue satin sashes, girls dust
with hormones till they grew mustaches, changing the gender of
all your offspring.

Speaker 2 (01:42:03):
These are a.

Speaker 10 (01:42:04):
Few of my favorite things.

Speaker 2 (01:42:08):
So there's James Tallerico and an AI generated ad and
if you see it, it's actually a lot funnier than
it sounds. But James Tallerico is now claiming that, well,
they're taking me out of context, and he's claiming that, well,
he's trying to change his tune on trans children. And

(01:42:31):
he was on a podcast the other day and this
is what he had to say about that issue. Joe's
here cutting a four. Please something that you love that's
not family or friends.

Speaker 9 (01:42:43):
I love.

Speaker 2 (01:42:45):
I'm just saying it's because it's on my mind.

Speaker 3 (01:42:47):
The trans children who.

Speaker 9 (01:42:50):
Showed up yesterday at the state Capitol to advocate.

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
For their humanity.

Speaker 3 (01:42:54):
They shouldn't have to, but it was an inspiration to watch.

Speaker 2 (01:42:57):
So there's tall Rico talking about how much he loves
the trans kids. Ah, they were there and it was
a wonderful thing. But here's what he's saying about trans kids. Now, Joe,
I hope I got the right cut here cut number three.

Speaker 8 (01:43:09):
You know, James, I hear consistent tropes about you being
way too liberal for Texas, that your pro sex surgery
for minors, on and on and on. How do you
respond to that?

Speaker 6 (01:43:19):
Well, just on that particular accusation, I oppose gender reassignment
surgeries for minors.

Speaker 2 (01:43:26):
Well that's not actually true because in one of the
votes he took while he was in the legislature in Texas,
I know, he voted for legislation that would allow these
procedures to continue to take place. So he's actually and
this again goes back to the sort of thing that

(01:43:49):
Jack and I were talking about in the previous segment,
where we have Democrats who are just flat out lying,
and in this case, they're lying about the positions that
they've had and so they've I mean, it doesn't matter
what the issue is, whether it's gun control, whether it's
same sex you know this that or the other thing,

(01:44:11):
gay marriage, whatever the case may be. He'd claimed that
he's no longer I guess, no longer a vegan. I
mean all this stuff. I mean, the guy is simply
lying about every position. Oh I know the one was
he he said that our front porch. And again he's
in Texas, which is a border state, saying that we

(01:44:31):
should have a welcome mat. That he was he was
absolutely anti borders. He was absolutely in favor of illegal
immigrants coming across the coming across the border, pathway to
citizenship and all the rest of it. And now he's
trying to claim that he never said that. But all

(01:44:51):
the audio, all the video is out there, all the
stuff about him saying God is done, binary, the Bible
is silent on a board, all this other stuff. He's
trying to walk every single one of those issues back
right now. And so and this guy doing the podcast
with him, if you see the audio or the video

(01:45:12):
of that, the guy sitting there shaking and said, oh yeah,
oh he's he's right. Winning extremists really mischaracterizing your position. No,
it's all out there for everyone to see. But will
enough people pay attention to realize what the truth is
it is seven to fifty five. We got to get
to a break. News coming up top of the hour,
and then Congressman Thomas Massey will join us for a

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little discussion after the news at the top of the
hour on fifty five KRC, the talk station.

Speaker 8 (01:45:39):
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Speaker 2 (01:46:07):
Good morning, eight o'clock eight o five on this Wednesday morning,
June the tenth, the year is flying by Dan Carroll
in for Brian Thomas. One more day for me in
my final hour and this week anyway, and Gary Jeff
Walker will be here after that. And I know Gary
Jeff Walker is a big fan of our next guest

(01:46:28):
this morning, and that is Congressman Thomas Massey. Thomas Massey,
welcome in fifty five KRC. How you doing.

Speaker 8 (01:46:35):
I'm doing well, Glad to be on the show with you.
You know you're doing a job. Maybe I should apply
for which is guest host on the radio show. I'll
be out of a job in January.

Speaker 2 (01:46:46):
Well, you're you've got You've got Joe Strucker's number. So
he's the main man to talk to. Joe Strucker is
the guy that can make it happen.

Speaker 8 (01:46:53):
So I would say, he said, he bring me donuts
if I come in to studio.

Speaker 2 (01:46:59):
Well, you're wellcome, You're welcome here anytime. Are you buddies
with Gary Jeff Walker? Do you guys hang out? Oh?
He talks about you all the time.

Speaker 8 (01:47:06):
Hey, he's my boss because he's you know, he's from Kentucky.
And so I worked for seven hundred and fifty thousand people.
The White House thought I worked for them. That may
be why I lost this election. I have to keep
reminded of my work for the people of Kentucky, not
for the Republican Party, and not for the president.

Speaker 2 (01:47:24):
Yeah. The most expensive congressional primary in the history of
the country. Yeah, when you've had a little time to
digest that, Now, what do you think your memories of
that are going to be? I mean that, I mean
that kind of money. It's just it's still I have

(01:47:44):
a hard time getting my head around it.

Speaker 8 (01:47:47):
They spent fourteen years trying to buy my vote and
then they just decided to buy my seat. And what
they found out it was really expensive to buy my
seat because you know, I've been doing a good job.
Took a lot of ads. It took a lot of AI.
In fact, they should have gone on a date with

(01:48:07):
ilhan Omar and Aoc holding hands and checking into a
hotel room, and a lot of the older folks fell
for that. I had. I had people vote for me
in spite of my date with those two. They said,
but this was the first AI race. I think, you know,
we'll see that in November. I think you got a

(01:48:27):
preview of some of the crazy ads that they can create.
We used a little bit of AI to show me
with an elephant, right walking with an elephant with the
Maga hat on to talk about the elephant in the room.
But it was when we used it, it was obvious,
you know that it was just done for a fact,

(01:48:48):
not to try to mislead people. But you know, on
the other side of this, I've been at this fourteen years.
I've you know, I was instrumental in taking speaker Bayer.
I thought they would take me out for that. I
was instrumental in opposing the COVID bailouts and all of
the vaccine mandates, and I got in trouble for that.

(01:49:11):
I forced a bunch of people to come up here
and vote during COVID because regular people were working. I
said Congress needed to work, and I got away with that.
I feel like a cat who's had more than these
nine lives, and it's just been you know, if I
could thank your listeners and Brian's listeners forgiving me the
opportunity to do this for fourteen years, it's been just

(01:49:35):
an amazing honor. And I'll spend the next seven months
working as hard as I have the prior fourteen years,
and you know, go out swinging, go out proud, and
go out with dignity. So that's the way it is.

Speaker 2 (01:49:55):
Less than a week after the primary was reu filed
the run again for twenty twenty eight. So is this
the beginning of that campaign to get your seat back
on twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 8 (01:50:07):
I'm keeping my options open. A lot of people want
me to run for Congress, for governor, for president, for Senate,
and they thought I would just keep my options open
by filing that. It's also, you know, there are a
lot of things that the taxpayers don't pay for that.
You might think that they do that. We have to

(01:50:30):
pay for out of our campaigns, and so I've got
seven more months where I'll need to pay for those
things that campaigns typically pay for. You know, if guests
come to Washington, d C. A group of people and
their constituents, you can pay for their dinner with the campaign,
but you can't do it with taxpayer money. So it's
also just a practical matter as well.

Speaker 2 (01:50:52):
All right, how much campaign money do you have left over?

Speaker 8 (01:50:55):
Oh, we spent. We spent it all we raised I
think about eight million dollars and spend it. A lot
of it. We spent on your radio station there. I
hope you don't go into a depression without the money.

Speaker 2 (01:51:07):
On behalf of the sales staff. I'll thank you for that.

Speaker 8 (01:51:10):
Well, everybody met quarterly goals there at the station.

Speaker 2 (01:51:14):
Yeah, sure, absolutely. Hey, we we love we love election
time around here here here at the radio station, at
the TV stations. I used to work at those, those
were you know, the people are there, they're bouncing beats,
balls around the around the sales area. It's election season.

Speaker 8 (01:51:32):
Tell them, tell them it's time to get back to work.
The next you know, a few one hundred thousand dollars
of sales is not going to be so easy.

Speaker 2 (01:51:38):
You got to find some private for some private sector
money out there.

Speaker 8 (01:51:42):
Absolutely, you don't ask for a bailout, because I'll vote
against that too.

Speaker 2 (01:51:47):
There you go vote against that. Have since the since
the primary has come and gone, Now, have you had
any conversations with Ed Gowrun?

Speaker 8 (01:51:57):
I have had exactly one. Car I did call him
up and concede the race before I gave my speech.
And I gave a speech that some people say sounded
like a victory speech, not a confession speech, And I
say that's because you know, we started a movement. Really,
it was more than an election. We had over fifty

(01:52:18):
thousand donors nationwide. The world was watching the election. All
the TV stations showed up to my speech, not to
my opponent's speech, because they wanted to know, you know
what this meant. And what I've realized is we inspired
a bunch of state legislators across the country. I have

(01:52:40):
over fourteen years, and they're more resolved than ever to
be in their state legislatures and fighting. In fact, I
talked to one this morning about what's going on there
in Columbus, Ohio. They're going to put a ballot initiative
on to have a constitutional amendment to require voter ID
in Ohio. The funny thing is you already have voter

(01:53:03):
ID in Ohio. This would just put it in the constitution,
and they're doing it to increase turnout of conservatives in November.
So it's kind of a placebo. But the legislator I
was talking to and for me that you don't have
voter ID for absentee ballots. And the Conservatives there in
Columbus are trying to get Speaker Huffman to put voter

(01:53:27):
ID for absentee ballots because the fraud will just go
to the absentees from the in person voting if you
don't do that. But the Speaker of the House there
in Ohio is opposing the massy type conservatives in the
legislature in Ohio who want voter ID for mail end ballots.
They're just common sense folks. So I'm inspiring people like
that to fight and they're still calling me up and saying,

(01:53:50):
which what do we fight on? So that feels good.

Speaker 2 (01:53:53):
Yeah. I'm looking at a poll rid here that finds
seventy six percent of Ohio voters support putting a voto
ID in the state constitution. And how did we get
to a point in this country we've got here in Ohio, Okay,
seventy I'll accept that on face value, that seventy six

(01:54:14):
percent of Ohioans want voter ID. When you look at
the Save America Act you've got, I think that number
is what eighty six, eighty five, eighty seven percent of
voters in America want, want that passed, and want that
put in the law. How do we get to a
point in this country to where we have polling data
like that that is consistent across the board, and yet

(01:54:37):
we can't get measures like that approved either on the
national level or we have a difficulty with it here
in Ohio.

Speaker 8 (01:54:45):
Well, it's crazy. We passed it in the House of
represent It's US House represents. Now, of course, we can
only dictate what happens in federal elections, right and so
for instance, if you were doing that and imposing on
the state of California, they could still have a school
board race where they didn't have vote you know, photo ideas.

Speaker 2 (01:55:04):
But I'm talking about the Senate. The Senate again just
failed to pass the Save America Act with the help
of Mitch McConnell and some others. And how is it
that we're at that point in America right now? We're
something this important And look, there's a lot of people
and I'm among them who want to make the argument
that this is the most important thing that is on

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the table right now.

Speaker 8 (01:55:27):
I agree with you one hundred percent. And what the
Tenant vote revealed, they did force a vote, was it?
The filibuster isn't actually the problem. We got bigger problems
than the sixty vote rule because they couldn't even get
the fifty votes. In the US Senate. You did have
McConnell and I think the senator from Maine perhaps, and
a few other Republican senators I think four who voted

(01:55:50):
against Photo ID in federal elections. I don't know what
their explanation is. And they're going against the will of
the people. And again, and it's constitutional. We're not imposing
our will on the states because this is only for
federal elections. And you know, we've voted for it a
couple of times here in the House. We should, you know,

(01:56:13):
insist that the Senate does it.

Speaker 2 (01:56:14):
But yeah, Susan Collins Lisa Markowski, Mitch McConnell, and Tom Tillis.
We're the ones who said who said no in the Senate.
Congressman MASSI state right there, we got to get to
a quick break and then we'll continue on here on
fifty five KRCV Talk Station.

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Speaker 2 (01:56:44):
Eight nineteen fifty five KRC As we continue our conversation
with Congressman Thomas Massey and Congressman Massey, the House last
week voted on the War Powers Resolution Act that, according
to the Associated Press, would defy President Trump and it

(01:57:05):
would halt US military action against Iran. Your vote on this,
you voted with the Democrats on this. What give me
your reasoning behind that vote?

Speaker 8 (01:57:17):
Well, I like to say I voted with the Constitution
authored the War Powers Resolution last summer, so this was
a version of it. This wasn't my version. It's required
of the president to come to Congress if you want
to have war, and particularly if you go ninety days
past initiating a war without Congress. Now they're claiming there's

(01:57:41):
no war going on right now. But the reality is
we still have a blocking on Iran, which is an
act of war.

Speaker 2 (01:57:46):
There are some action. There was some action last night,
if I recall if a memory, they shot down a
an Apache helicopter and the United States responded by attacking
correct our sites and other installations.

Speaker 8 (01:57:59):
It sounds like war to me, and so that's what
the vote was on. I believe that what we owe
our veterans, our active duty actually are mill members of
the military is a clear mission, the tools to get
it done, and a promise to come home when they
achieve it. And we haven't given that to them. And
so I think if we had a good debate in

(01:58:20):
Congress and then did an AOMF or declaration of war
the AUMF. Look, this is what happened for Iraq I,
Iraq II An Afghanistan that the President came to Congress
and got an AUMF before initiating the activities. Because then
what you'll end up with if you don't have Congress

(01:58:41):
on board is Congress has the power of the purse,
and then you could end up in a situation where
you've got a war that Congress didn't approve, and then
we want to make sure if we're in a war
that they're Our soldiers have the and sailors and airmen
have the right tools to get the job done. And
you can't have the White House in Congress on two
different pages when you do this. Now, the president does

(01:59:03):
have the authority to wage the war, to do it
in the way that he thinks is practical and best
serves the country without Congress in taming one. But we
haven't declared it and we haven't authorized that that's what
we need to do. That could be part of the
reason I lost my lection, by the way, seventy percent. Now,

(01:59:25):
a majority of the constituents of my constituents in Kentucky
do not support war with Iran right now, but seventy
percent of Republicans who vote in primary Kentucky do support
the war. And that's one issue where I was. You know,
I swore an oath to the Constitution, and I promised
to support my constituent's will. The question is do you

(01:59:49):
do you support the will of the majority of your
constituents are just your primary voters, And even when you
do that, you have to be in line with the Constitution.

Speaker 2 (01:59:59):
Of all the Congress. I've had about the war in
Iran and the attacks at Operation Epic Fury and all
the rest of that. I keep going back to the
bottom line against of the notion that Iran has been
sponsoring terrorism for forty plus almost fifty years, that they
cannot the regime there cannot be allowed to be in

(02:00:20):
possession of a nuclear weapon, And that, to me is
really what the bottom line of all this is. Do
you agree with that, should Iran be allowed to get
their hands on a nuclear weapon? Should they be stopped
from allowing that to happen? And if so, how do
we go about doing that?

Speaker 8 (02:00:40):
Well, allegedly we took away their ability to do that
or set them back years last summer, and allegedly we've
already done that again. If you want to know the truth,
the reason that last summer that we attacked Iran and
that we're still attacking Iran is not about a nuclear weapon.
They don't have the capacity to do that anymore. It's

(02:01:01):
about reducing their stockpiles of conventional weapons that can reach Israel.

Speaker 2 (02:01:07):
Okay, well, how do you know how do you know
they don't have the ability to produce a nuclear weapon?

Speaker 8 (02:01:13):
Well, I just trust the president. He said it multiple
times that we obliterated their ability to do it. And
I can't prove a negative on here, but if you're
going to anybody who's allegedly going to get a nuclear weapon,
that's why we went after Libya and turned that into
a hell hole and all the things that followed was
allegedly Kadafi wanted to get a new weapon. That's what

(02:01:36):
they pull out every time. But I can tell you
from what I know up here, the military calculation was
to reduce their stockpiles, their inventory of conventional weapons that
could reach Israel because they were worried that they were
reaching a point where they could overwhelm their anti missile defense.

Speaker 2 (02:01:57):
Okay, for real reason. Okay, I'll accept that at face value.
Before I let you go, you had a meeting with
the crew of the USS Liberty. Tell me about that.

Speaker 8 (02:02:09):
Yeah. These USS Liberty was a spy ship, American spy
ship that was unarmed. They were sent to the Mediterranean.
They were sent to basically observed the Sixth Day War
in nineteen sixty seven. They were attacked by Israeli jets,
Israeli torpedo boats. They were torpedoed, they received rocket fired napalm.

(02:02:36):
The Israeli say it was a case of mistaken identity,
but they were clearly trying to take no prisoners and
sink the ship. They blew a forty foot hole in
the hull, killed thirty four Americans, wounded one hundred and
seventy four. There was a seventy percent casualty rate on
this ship. Our own military waited seventeen hours before they
sent any help, and they knew this ship was sitting

(02:02:58):
there could have sunk, and these soldiers were threatened with
court martials if they said anything about it, so it
was years before they spoke out. They haven't received their recognition.
By the way, there are compelling arguments by NSA Director,
CIA Director Secretary of State back during those period of time,

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that was an intentional attack and it intended to draw
America into the war. The eyewitnesses who I met this
week say that the first jets that attacked them were unmarked,
and so this could have been a false flag operation.
According to some very notable people, it could have been

(02:03:41):
they just didn't want to vote, spying on what was
going on during the Sixth Day War, or it could
have been a case of mistake and identity. Those are
all out there in any case, these soldiers never received
their recognition, so I gave a speech. I had over
a dozen of these, sorry, I called them soldiers sailors
in my office, took him out to launch and gave

(02:04:03):
him the recognition that they deserve as veterans to put
their lives on the line for this country.

Speaker 2 (02:04:08):
All right, well, Thomas Massey will have to leave it
right there. As always, appreciate your time, appreciate you being on.
And this is why I love talking to you, because
I can throw any question at you and you're more
than happy to take it. So I certainly appreciate that.
All the best to you, and we'll be following the
campaign for twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 8 (02:04:26):
Thanks very much, Dan. We'll see if there is one
and what it's for.

Speaker 2 (02:04:30):
All right, Congressman Tom Massey, thank you very much, sir,
and we will continue on. I've got another guest coming up,
Jim Faff of the So I think it will expose
us to the accusations that will be exploited by the
Trump administration. Oh yeah, very very very very concerned there.
Governor Gavin Newsom California, very concerned that. Look, we got

(02:04:52):
to hey, I told the registrars we got to get
these ballots counted. He wants accountability, he wants he wants efficiency.
Jim fab from the Conservative Caucus. What a bunch of
mumbo jumbo coming from that guy. And Jim, Look, we
are in a period right now, and it's unfortunately for us.
It is a prolonged period where politicians like Gavin Newsom

(02:05:16):
just flat out lie to our face. And look, we
know the California elections are as corrupt and crooked as
they can possibly be. But everyone looks at it and says, hey,
that's just the way they do things in California.

Speaker 4 (02:05:30):
Well that's how property in this work. By the way, just.

Speaker 11 (02:05:34):
Keep staying it over and over again, and then finally
we're gonna believe it. And by the way, it does
make me feel a whole lot better that the used
car salesman looking Gavin Newsom is telling me all this.

Speaker 2 (02:05:47):
Yeah, are you you're assuaged by that? Are you not?
I mean, you can rest easy now knowing that he's
on top of it.

Speaker 4 (02:05:57):
Hey, it's the hair jail.

Speaker 2 (02:05:59):
The hair jail.

Speaker 4 (02:06:00):
Every time I always call for it. Listen, this guy
is so obscene and absurd, and we have to call
this sort of stuff out well, no doubt about it.
Politicians of any stripe, whether you like them or hate them,
whether they're good or bad, and most or bad, you

(02:06:20):
know they are going to put out a line of
discussion to try to clarify what it is they hope
people will understand. Now, we can accept that in a
general sense, just because, particularly in this day and age,
the sound bites are short and you got to say
something quickly. But there is just a different level of it.

(02:06:42):
I mean, this is not your nineteen seventies style politicians
nineteen fifties, because he is really trying to work with
all the Democrats in California and the media in general
to put this narrative out that this is just a
normal process, when in fact, what California does in its

(02:07:03):
elections is something we have literally and I am not
exaggerating to say, never done in this country until this century.
We had two hundred and thirty plus years of the
gold standard of elections. And when I say gold standard,
I kind of have Churchill in mind, who said democracy
is the worst form of government man ever created, except

(02:07:24):
for all the others. So it's not that it was
a perfect system, but it was the gold standard fraud
could be found typically and when found dealt with, Yes,
But what is in California is an in set fraudulent
process that he's trying to make out as some sort
of normal deal because it gives them an advantage.

Speaker 2 (02:07:47):
Yeah, and so you couple that with the expected results,
I think it's maybe a little bit. How do you
explain that Steve Hilton was able to hang on in
the governor's race there and not be over ton by
the same process that eliminated Spencer Pratt.

Speaker 4 (02:08:04):
Well, you know, the fraud is not absolute, So whatever
if any attempts were made to get Hilton off the ballot,
and he was pretty solid on the election night, so
the numbers still went the wrong way. If there is fraud,
and I suspect there is, then when I say fraud again,
I'm saying fraudulent process. There may be some actual legal

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criminal fraud. I don't know for sure yet, but that process,
whatever was happening to Spencer Pratt, was happening to Steve Hilton.

Speaker 8 (02:08:34):
He was noticing it as well too.

Speaker 4 (02:08:36):
But in La County there is a lot at stake
for the government unions there, for the teacher unions there.
These people have it made.

Speaker 8 (02:08:49):
You've got so.

Speaker 4 (02:08:50):
Many people working in government to have six figure incomes.

Speaker 2 (02:08:55):
Ridiculous.

Speaker 9 (02:08:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:08:57):
Yeah, the charge to the water where they don't have
any water pulls down seven hundred and fifty grand a year.
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (02:09:06):
And the NGO industrial complex is doing really well because,
as Spencer Pratt rightly pointed out, they've been busting in
homeless people to get the money from the state and
federal government that comes along with having a homeless person
that you give a needle and heroin to, right, I mean,
this is how seen and absurd this whole system is.
And I'm just using one example there. The whole NGO

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industrial complex benefits down there. So there was more incentive
and certainly a more highly concentrated number of Democrats that
you could work with and allegedly homeless people. You know,
you had James o'keeff and some others ye who had
some very interesting videos that seemed to indicate that homeless
people were being paid for the.

Speaker 11 (02:09:49):
Vote and not to care what their address was.

Speaker 2 (02:09:52):
Yeah, but yeah, there's there are thousands of people at
a homeless shelter address. They're getting paid to They don't
have to actually vote, they're just getting paid to register.
So once they get those names on the register, I mean,
that's that's money in the bank as far as the
leftist Democrats are concerned. Jim Faft, stay right there. We
got to get to a quick break and we'll continue

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on on fifty five KRC the Talk station.

Speaker 8 (02:10:16):
Hey's Brian Thomas with Steve from USA installation Steve knows
t Talks Station.

Speaker 2 (02:10:22):
Eight on this Wednesday morning. Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas,
continuing our conversation with Jim Faff, the main man at
the Conservative Caucus and Jim, what does it say about
where we are right now in electric politics? Where we
have a guy in Maine, Graham Platner, who wins with
seventy about seventy three percent of the vote, a guy

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who openly has the Nazi tattoo on his chest, has
all the sort of peccadillos with sexting girls on a
platform that's called predatory, bad mouse, and poormouse. It says
a United States veteran wounded in combat deserved to die
those sorts of things. What does what's the takeaway from

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his overwhelming win last night and the fact that this
guy is openly embraced by and large by the Democrat
Party in this country.

Speaker 4 (02:11:17):
Well, by setting the whole argument here with a clarificate
or the realization that there is a lot of corruption
in Congress right now, Grand Platner relates and should make
us very well aware of the fact that the Democrat

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Party is so incredibly obscenely corrupt in how it approaches
the American ideal, the political system, and the manner in
which power is obtained through what we would hope will
once again be normal elective processes. So, Grand Platner, the

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fact that he is even all on the ballot says
a whole lot about politicians in Washington, d C. Of
the Democrat stripe because everything that you just described of
him is not exaggerated, it is not listed for effect.
You kind of did the straight man talk on what

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Graham Plattner is all about, and that alone does not
make them say, no, we're gonna we're gonna work against that. Now,
by the way, Graham Plattner has a right to get
on the bout, so you're not talking about you know,
you make it impossible for him to run. What they
should have been doing is saying, no, this guy is obscene,
We're not gonna have anything to do with him, and

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supported Governor Mills to get that. Frankly, I think Mills
would have a better chance of beating Susan Collins in
the general election. But they are insane about what Democrats
are about what they believe the American system ought to
be moving towards right now, which I say is and
overthrow the American Republic. We got a bunch of problems

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with how we follow the Constitution and put our systems
of government in its proper place, in its proper restraint.
But Democrats go to the next level on that too.
There it's raw power graph. They have to win Maine
to have any chance of getting to send it back.
So they ended up going all in on the bet
that seemed to be working at the time, and that

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is an immoral That was an imral play on their part.

Speaker 2 (02:13:30):
I said earlier this morning that I think the most
confused guy in politics this morning has got to be
Eric Swalwell, when he's got to be looking at it
at platter and say, look, hey, I slept with a
Chinese spy. I did everything I could the further the
leftist agenda, but somehow I ran a foul and you know,

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came into the displeasure of those who control the Democrat Party,
so they kicked me to the curb. How does Eric
Swalwell reckon what happened with Platinir last night?

Speaker 4 (02:14:01):
I think I hadn't thought of it, Dan, and then
your brilliance you brought that out, and you're absolutely correct.
But see, here's what happened there. In California. They had
other options, They had other decent options, Like all they
had to do was get someone across the finish line.
I mean, I love Steve Hilton, and it'd be great
if he could become governor and maybe a miracle will happen,

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and I'll certainly be glad to hear that, but that
miracle is not likely to happen there. Whereas in Maine,
Susan Collins has been re elected enough that she could
get reelected again, and Plattner was just blowing Governor Mills
out of the water. So they said, okay, well, you
know this is our horse. We're going to ride on it.
And so so swallow All was expendable in that regard

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and Plattner was not.

Speaker 2 (02:14:48):
And make no mistake, if Platner, for whatever reason, falls
in into or displeases the overlords of the Democrat Party,
they will kick him to the curb in a heartbeat
as well.

Speaker 4 (02:15:00):
Yes, well here, let me give you my prediction here,
because I do think something like that's going to happen.
I do believe that it's going to become very obvious
through the summer. The Grand Plattner is not going to
have a chance of beating Susan Collins, even though, by
the way, Susan Collins is so wimpy she won't even
take this on. I mean, it's just really blows my mind.

(02:15:21):
But Platner is actually, I think, likely to be in
such bad shape with Susan Collins that they'll just do
it Joe Biden and knock him out and put Governor
Mills in and go from there and they might pick
up the seat if they have any sense that they
can do that. That's exactly what they're going to do.
Well anviolating every principle of democracy that we've ever heard.

Speaker 2 (02:15:42):
Democracy doesn't matter. The only thing that democracy, don't you know,
that matters is serving the leftist agenda. That truth doesn't matter,
political ideology doesn't matter, None of that matters as long
as you are in service to the leftist agenda, and
you are a reliable operative in that sense, then you

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will advance in the Democrat part.

Speaker 4 (02:16:08):
That is exactly the case, and it is raw political power.
You know. What's really interesting is for as frustrating as
our system can be, because as I'm saying all these
things about Democrats, I got a lot to say about
John Thoon not having the inability to work a system
to get a Save America actors.

Speaker 2 (02:16:28):
That's just it is beyond it is, Jim, it is beyond.
And I was I was talking to your buddy Thomas
Massey about that. Beyond this grade. I don't think there's
anything that's more important on the table right now than
the Save America Act and the fact that they will
not let that go ahead and get past. And I
was reading a piece earlier today, uh and and then
the author was suggesting that Donald Trump has to send

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JD Vance to the Senate and make Senate make their
life a living hell until they passed this, uh, this
Save America Act.

Speaker 4 (02:16:59):
I truely believe that. You know, it's funny that you
bring up the JD Vance thing, because I one hundred
percent agree. And it's very interesting. At the opening of
our country. John Adams in his private letters and otherwise
noted how insufferable it was sitting in that President of
the Senate's chair as Vice President of the United States,

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with nothing to do, and just having to watch everybody grapple.
And then he would throw in some of his fourteen
little things of him and how useless that is. And
now here we come to twenty twenty six, and actually
there is power in the President of the Senate's chair.
And the President of the Senate is jd Vance. The

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majority leader just represents one part of the caucus, even
though he kind of runs it because of the fact
that that that you know there seems like it's usual.
So here we could have that whole scenario that John
Adams insufferably had to deal with turned into something very
good for the Republic. And I would endorse that. I
think I would love to see jd Vance go in there,
take charge of the Senate and say that we're going

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to a different direction. Boy, all right, Jase, he can't
break all the rules of the stuff, but he needs
to do that.

Speaker 2 (02:18:08):
Jim, so great having you on. I always appreciate the time.
I'm way late for a break, so I got to run,
but Jim faff Conservative Caucus keep up the great work,
my friend. We'll be talking again soon. Thanks Dan, good
to talk to you all right. There, you go and
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Speaker 4 (02:18:25):
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