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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh at seventy five right lane blocked Chuck Ingram fifty
(00:03):
five krs.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
The talk station.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hey forty six fty five koc detalk station sharing some
Joe Strekker high comedy over the break, he said Fox nineteen.
He was a report of waking up at five o'clock
or earlier is harmful to your health, suggesting that maybe
Joe and I need to make a worker's compensation claim.
We'll think about it, Joe. Any workers comployers out there
that want to help Joe, please feel free to give
me a call. And the meantime, without further ado, welcome
(00:30):
back to the morning show. Dusty Rhoads, former Hamilton County auditor,
came up with a had a conversation yesterday with Senate
candidate from the seventh district here in the state of Ohio,
Zach Haynes, who talked about property tax relief. We certainly
need it. Many people can't afford to pay their property taxes,
especially when they jump thirty plus percent overnight. Dusty Rhoads,
(00:52):
a lot of ideas floating around out there. I know
the budget from the state of Ohio. The elected officials said,
here are some property tax relief items. And our governor
line item vetoed them. We are facing a potential ballot
initiative which would eliminate, by way of constitutional amendment in Ohio,
the collection of property taxes, which sounds interesting, get your
(01:12):
popcorn out type of event, Dusty, But it's going to
be really complicated if that happens. Where are we, Dusty Rhodes?
Is there any relief out there that's possible in what
would happen if we just got rid of it?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Dusty? Welcome back. Happy new year, by the way.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Happy new year, Brian. Good to be where you. It's interesting.
The first thing I want to note is there were
a bunch of property tax issues on the ballot in
November in Hamilton County, and you know how many of
them passed?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
It was all but like one. Weren't there all of them?
All of them?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
I thought maybe okay, I thought maybe one of the
local school levies got shot down.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
No, they all passed, okay. And so that indicates to
me that this property tax issue is not the big
issue we thought it was. I mean, don't you think
there'd be an outpouring of votes against property taxes?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Well?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Dost he don't ask me what I think about the
most recent elections, since only one out of four registered
voters in the city anyway bothered to show up. I
think that's the problem of low information voters and off
your election, and people who just are not politically paying attention.
And many people who like for example, apartment renters, who
don't really think that property tax impacts them.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah, yeah, they don't realize that it's built into their
rental payment. But the problem is the twenty mil floor,
and I think they've passed something that limits that a little.
That's the device that the school's got to avoid the
rollback of the taxes when values go up, every other
(02:58):
tax roll back so that the police department and fire
departments and mental health leavy and didn't get more than
the voters approved money wise, and if that was in
effect for the schools, Texas wouldn't have jumped that much.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Well the other thing, Oh, go ahead, finish your thought.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Well, Well, the thing is there is a conspiracy of
silence in the Columbus news people to not talk about it.
I've asked Tom saidis the guy who writes for the
Inquirer five times? Why I didn't write about the twenty
mil floor? And he won't answer me. I've asked the
(03:45):
two reporters in Columbus for Gannette and they won't answer either.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Maybe they don't get it.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Well I don't. It's simple when you look at it.
Maybe it's hard to believe though. The twenty mil floor
and the exemption for the schools which in the district's qualified,
and that's eight or nine here every district in Babla
(04:12):
County qualified taxes went up a lot without a vote
of the people, and that's the twenty mil floor.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Cambit Well, Dusty Rhoades. How about I know it's been discussed.
It's not me coming up with the concept, but how
about an adjustment for inflation in terms of property tax
increases as opposed to market valuation. I mean, you go
through something like COVID where everybody and his brother is
out buying up all the real estate. You now have
institutional investors which have been around since we had the
(04:44):
housing crash back in the mid two thousands. They're buying
up property. They have a lot more money. Of course,
it drives the prices of real estate supply and demands.
Running into a problem. The additional twenty million immigrants over
the past several years that creates a bit of a
house and shortage. So if there's not enough houses to
go around, the prices necesscessarily increase, and that is going
to cause the property taxes to increase, maybe thirty percent,
(05:04):
depending upon the market. But how about something that suggested
solely on the basis of the amount of inflation. It
would take some of the sting out of these radical fluctuations,
wouldn't it right?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
And real estate doesn't track inflation. It jumps a lot
and it declines a lot, and it doesn't track inflation.
So if you take that out of the equation, that
would be something that they could do. But I like
the fact that the schools and the townships and everybody
(05:36):
had to go to the voters every three or four
years and ask for money and justify the request, and
most cases had passed because they made the case. But
now they're exempted by this twenty Mili four nonsense. And
the legislatures tried to rein that in and I think
(05:58):
that bill passed that ties it to inflation. Yeah, but
the problem is with doing away with the property tax completely.
These people are well meaning, but they're doomed. They're wasting
their time. And remember in the eighties when the income
tax went in and they put it on the ballot
(06:19):
and you would do away with the income tax, and
they lost. And the income tax is still there and
the property tax. All they need to say against it
is will shut down your fire department?
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah, nod, that's it. The ad campaign is going to
be overwhelming. You know, your schools are going to suffer,
the fire department, the parks are going to get shut down.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
It's yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
And there's not going to be any moneyed organized effort
to support rolling back property taxes right right, going back
to the schools. And this comes up all the time,
and again it came up with the other day with
Senate candidate Zach Haynes. Twenty years ago or maybe even more,
the Ohigh State Supreme Court ruled that the current funding
of schools is unconstitutional, and here we are, twenty plus
(07:05):
years later, we're doing it the same way. I guess
the Supreme Court pronouncements don't matter in the state of Ohio.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
What the state isn't doing enough. And Bart West, who
was on the Who Killed School Board, a former police
chief in Green Township, points out that West Virginia even
and the surrounding states are paying five thousand or more
a student, and Ohio is paying about three thousand. So
(07:32):
they're underfunding and putting the burden on the property tax payer.
And that was caseis trick too. He did the same thing.
He put the burden on the local governments by cutting
the local government fund. And the state is the most
efficient tax collector with the income tax, which is fair
(07:53):
according to how much you make, and they've been whittling
that down and throwing the burden on the governments. And
it's the problem. Property tax problem is the result.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Dusty Roads, if we're honor for Hamilton County. It's great
having you on, Dusty. I hope you are doing well
and your family's doing well. It's a pleasure to having
you on the program. We can talk again when these
matters come up, and I know you're always willing to
discuss it with my listeners and me. Happy New Year
to you, sir, Thanks for spending some time with my
listeners with me today, Dusty.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Happy new year to you, Brian and all the best
in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Hey, just fyi, we're going to be at ronz Rous
on the West Side for the next listener lunch. Fourth
of February. That's first Wednesday, February. I know you come
every once in a while. I'm just extending an infin
invitation with no pressure to show up. But it's always
great when you show up. The Listener lunch my friend.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
I'll be there.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Take care, Dusty Roads. That'll be uh Rods as
Oh at seventy five right lane blocked Chuck Ingram fifty
(00:03):
five krs.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
The talk station.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hey forty six fty five koc detalk station sharing some
Joe Strekker high comedy over the break, he said Fox nineteen.
He was a report of waking up at five o'clock
or earlier is harmful to your health, suggesting that maybe
Joe and I need to make a worker's compensation claim.
We'll think about it, Joe. Any workers comployers out there
that want to help Joe, please feel free to give
me a call. And the meantime, without further ado, welcome
(00:30):
back to the morning show. Dusty Rhoads, former Hamilton County auditor,
came up with a had a conversation yesterday with Senate
candidate from the seventh district here in the state of Ohio,
Zach Haynes, who talked about property tax relief. We certainly
need it. Many people can't afford to pay their property taxes,
especially when they jump thirty plus percent overnight. Dusty Rhoads,
(00:52):
a lot of ideas floating around out there. I know
the budget from the state of Ohio. The elected officials said,
here are some property tax relief items. And our governor
line item vetoed them. We are facing a potential ballot
initiative which would eliminate, by way of constitutional amendment in Ohio,
the collection of property taxes, which sounds interesting, get your
(01:12):
popcorn out type of event, Dusty, But it's going to
be really complicated if that happens. Where are we, Dusty Rhodes?
Is there any relief out there that's possible in what
would happen if we just got rid of it?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Dusty? Welcome back. Happy new year, by the way.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Happy new year, Brian. Good to be where you. It's interesting.
The first thing I want to note is there were
a bunch of property tax issues on the ballot in
November in Hamilton County, and you know how many of
them passed?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
It was all but like one. Weren't there all of them?
All of them?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
I thought maybe okay, I thought maybe one of the
local school levies got shot down.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
No, they all passed, okay. And so that indicates to
me that this property tax issue is not the big
issue we thought it was. I mean, don't you think
there'd be an outpouring of votes against property taxes?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Well?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Dost he don't ask me what I think about the
most recent elections, since only one out of four registered
voters in the city anyway bothered to show up. I
think that's the problem of low information voters and off
your election, and people who just are not politically paying attention.
And many people who like for example, apartment renters, who
don't really think that property tax impacts them.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah, yeah, they don't realize that it's built into their
rental payment. But the problem is the twenty mil floor,
and I think they've passed something that limits that a little.
That's the device that the school's got to avoid the
rollback of the taxes when values go up, every other
(02:58):
tax roll back so that the police department and fire
departments and mental health leavy and didn't get more than
the voters approved money wise, and if that was in
effect for the schools, Texas wouldn't have jumped that much.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Well the other thing, Oh, go ahead, finish your thought.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Well, Well, the thing is there is a conspiracy of
silence in the Columbus news people to not talk about it.
I've asked Tom saidis the guy who writes for the
Inquirer five times? Why I didn't write about the twenty
mil floor? And he won't answer me. I've asked the
(03:45):
two reporters in Columbus for Gannette and they won't answer either.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Maybe they don't get it.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Well I don't. It's simple when you look at it.
Maybe it's hard to believe though. The twenty mil floor
and the exemption for the schools which in the district's qualified,
and that's eight or nine here every district in Babla
(04:12):
County qualified taxes went up a lot without a vote
of the people, and that's the twenty mil floor.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Cambit Well, Dusty Rhoades. How about I know it's been discussed.
It's not me coming up with the concept, but how
about an adjustment for inflation in terms of property tax
increases as opposed to market valuation. I mean, you go
through something like COVID where everybody and his brother is
out buying up all the real estate. You now have
institutional investors which have been around since we had the
(04:44):
housing crash back in the mid two thousands. They're buying
up property. They have a lot more money. Of course,
it drives the prices of real estate supply and demands.
Running into a problem. The additional twenty million immigrants over
the past several years that creates a bit of a
house and shortage. So if there's not enough houses to
go around, the prices necesscessarily increase, and that is going
to cause the property taxes to increase, maybe thirty percent,
(05:04):
depending upon the market. But how about something that suggested
solely on the basis of the amount of inflation. It
would take some of the sting out of these radical fluctuations,
wouldn't it right?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
And real estate doesn't track inflation. It jumps a lot
and it declines a lot, and it doesn't track inflation.
So if you take that out of the equation, that
would be something that they could do. But I like
the fact that the schools and the townships and everybody
(05:36):
had to go to the voters every three or four
years and ask for money and justify the request, and
most cases had passed because they made the case. But
now they're exempted by this twenty Mili four nonsense. And
the legislatures tried to rein that in and I think
(05:58):
that bill passed that ties it to inflation. Yeah, but
the problem is with doing away with the property tax completely.
These people are well meaning, but they're doomed. They're wasting
their time. And remember in the eighties when the income
tax went in and they put it on the ballot
(06:19):
and you would do away with the income tax, and
they lost. And the income tax is still there and
the property tax. All they need to say against it
is will shut down your fire department?
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah, nod, that's it. The ad campaign is going to
be overwhelming. You know, your schools are going to suffer,
the fire department, the parks are going to get shut down.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
It's yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
And there's not going to be any moneyed organized effort
to support rolling back property taxes right right, going back
to the schools. And this comes up all the time,
and again it came up with the other day with
Senate candidate Zach Haynes. Twenty years ago or maybe even more,
the Ohigh State Supreme Court ruled that the current funding
of schools is unconstitutional, and here we are, twenty plus
(07:05):
years later, we're doing it the same way. I guess
the Supreme Court pronouncements don't matter in the state of Ohio.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
What the state isn't doing enough. And Bart West, who
was on the Who Killed School Board, a former police
chief in Green Township, points out that West Virginia even
and the surrounding states are paying five thousand or more
a student, and Ohio is paying about three thousand. So
(07:32):
they're underfunding and putting the burden on the property tax payer.
And that was caseis trick too. He did the same thing.
He put the burden on the local governments by cutting
the local government fund. And the state is the most
efficient tax collector with the income tax, which is fair
(07:53):
according to how much you make, and they've been whittling
that down and throwing the burden on the governments. And
it's the problem. Property tax problem is the result.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Dusty Roads, if we're honor for Hamilton County. It's great
having you on, Dusty. I hope you are doing well
and your family's doing well. It's a pleasure to having
you on the program. We can talk again when these
matters come up, and I know you're always willing to
discuss it with my listeners and me. Happy New Year
to you, sir, Thanks for spending some time with my
listeners with me today, Dusty.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Happy new year to you, Brian and all the best
in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Hey, just fyi, we're going to be at ronz Rous
on the West Side for the next listener lunch. Fourth
of February. That's first Wednesday, February. I know you come
every once in a while. I'm just extending an infin
invitation with no pressure to show up. But it's always
great when you show up. The Listener lunch my friend.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
I'll be there.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Take care, Dusty Roads. That'll be uh Rods as
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