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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi's Brian Thomas. Happy to welcome to the fifty five
Casey Morning Show. You know him, I know him, and
he is now an author of the book Under Siege,
My Family's Fight to Save the Nation, by my guest,
Eric Trump. Yes, the executive vice president of the Trump Organization,
leading the global operations one of the most iconic real
estate empires in the world overseas the expansive portfolio including
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the Trump Hotels, Trump Goff. You can go on and
on and on about the real estate holdings. He is
responsible for the company's expansion into emerging industries. He also
happens to be the target of a lot of political
attacks and just by virtue of his membership of the
Trump family, that's what the book about. At least I
understand Eric Trump. It's great to have you on the
fifty five Casey Morning Show. I as I sat here
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and contemplated the last say ten years, and I guess
you've lived with this microscope focus your entire life. I mean,
would that be accurate before the Trump political era came in?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah, but never anything like this, Brian Ian and I'm
so on her. The book, you know, Underseas went to
number one on Amazon, it's doing credible and then clearly
people are you know, it's totally people in the country
and making a statement because so many of us have
been targeted. It's not just Trump family, I mean, underseas
is kind of the story of this entire country, the
entire Magat movement, all of us, and all of us
were deep platforms, debankes, and mean the second my father
went down that escalator and took twelve minutes before the
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Washington Post wrote wrote an article, this is when the
impeachment of Donald Trump began. And they, I mean, they
did everything right. They impeached him twice. They made up
the dirty dot CAAs they you know, accused us of
having secret servers in the basement of Trump Tower communicating
with the Kremlin in Russia. They weaponized every DA and
every age, whether it's in New York City or Washington, DC,
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or Fulton County, Georgia. They weaponized all of them against
our family and my father. I mean, they took him
off the ballot in Maine, they took him off the
ballot in Colorado. They stripped him of all his social media.
I mean, if you tried to type in Trump into YouTube,
you couldn't find him, and they threw him off of Twitter,
and threw him off of x and threw him off
of Facebook. I became the most impement person in American history.
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I've never gotten so much as a traffic ticket. They
did everything they could to destroy our family. They raided
mar A Lago, they raided Milania's room, they raided Baron's room,
and then they tried to kill him in Butler, Pennsylvania.
And then they tried to kill them again, you know,
eight weeks later at the golf course in Florida. They
tried to put our family and our country under siege
because they didn't like what my father was saying, and
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they didn't like the fact that we had created the
greatest political movement in history. And Brian, the story had
to be told. It had to be told from kind
of an insider view, as the guy sitting in the courtroom,
as a guy receiving those subpoenas, as a guy fighting
like hell for our entire family, and really holding that
family together outside of Washington, DC, because I was in
charge of you know, everything that you just listed, you know,
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and the story had to be told to the American
people and by the way. The greatest part of the story, Brian,
we won. I mean, we beat the mainstream media. We
beat them in embarrassing fashion. They're totally irrelevant and independent
voices like yours are all of a sudden, you know,
winning the day where you know, ten years ago, I
think that was very different. NBC and ABC and CBS
were the trusted voice of this nation. They are no longer,
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and you know, and we had the greatest victory in
political history, winning the popular vote, winning every swing state
and so on, and so it's a beautiful story, but man,
was it a hell of a fight.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Do you take any comfort of it at the big win,
because to me, that sort of suggested that, you know,
we're smarter out here in the unwashed masses than the
Democrats perceived us to be. We saw what happened to
Donald Trump. We knew that Steele dossier was paid for
by the Democratic Party, created whole cloth full of lives
for the purpose of keeping Donald Trump from getting elected.
Enter Hillary Clinton's debacle. She lost her own campaign, I
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think on that then they used that Steele doci to
continue to perpetuate this myth that the Russia was involved
in the collusion to go through the whole investigation, fight
out there is nothing there. This was all a lie,
that was all done to undermine your dad getting anything
accomplished in his first four years. And Lord Almighty, it
was non stop under siege. It was the biggest political
distraction from getting work done that I've ever witnessed in
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my sixty years of life.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
You know what, I'll never forget thinking of my desk
at from Power and I get a call, and the
first calls from the New York Times, the second calls
from the Washington Post. Eric, I hear you have secret
servers in the basement of Trump Tower that are communicating
with the Kremlin. I almost spit my drink out on
my desk. I was laughing so hard, right, I mean,
give me a secret servers. Is We hardly knew what
a delegate was, Brian. You know, we're real estate people.
You know we had gotten into the political thing. I mean,
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you want to talk about winging it, We were like
the definition of winging it. We weren't smart enough to
communicate with with with Russia or collude with Russia. I
mean I started laughing and I said to them, you
want to come over here right now, you'll be over
here in five minutes. I'll give you a I'll give
you tour of the basement of Trump Tower. You can
look for the quote unquote secret servers. Right, they knew
it was a lie, The FBI knew it was a lie,
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and they led it perlay for three years. At first,
they wanted it to be our October surprise, so Hillary
Clinton could get three extra votes, you know, and hopefully
win the election. And they even defined the October surprise
as something that is so damaging, you know, but somebody
doesn't have enough time to disprove, so the damage is
done by the time they disprove it. Right. Then, after
they lost in such embarrassing passion against a group of
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quote unquote misfits who didn't know anything about politics and
were at a five to one fundraising deficit, they continued
the narrative to allow Hillary to stay faced, and by
doing so, they literally pitted the two biggest nuclear superpowers
against each other, which hampered communication for a three year
period of time. I mean, you know how awkward those
conversations were as they were accusing us of Russia collusion
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between my father and and Putin and again also Hillary,
you know, some greedy woman could get could get you know,
three extra votes in a campaign which he otherwise lost
or CLI and stay faced. Why the Clinton dynasty, you know,
who actually knew something about politics and had actually been
to Washington, DC before you know it, lost to effectively
my father and myself and Don who are really the
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only three people who were standing on that stage at
that time, because no one else believed in us, And
that's how damaging this is. And they knew it, and
they allowed it to continue for the sake of the
Democratic Party even though everybody knew who was a lie.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
My guess that, Hey, Eric Trouv, author of Underseas, my
Family's Fight to Save our Nation, And Eric got to
ask you what was rather perplexing for me the entire time,
although I can understand him just sitting back and saying,
I'm not going to touch this with a ten foot poll.
Let me watch them self destruct. How come Vladimir Putin
didn't chime in at any given time since we're talking
about him and what he did, you'd think maybe, just
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maybe he'd interject, maybe a comment or two, but never happened.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah, because chaos and other countries that our adversaries are
probably beneficial to Russia and China, right, I mean, I think,
I think if you look at the playbook of most
adversaries to the United States, right. And I don't want
to try and pit two countries against each other right
now by saying this, But you know, I mean they're
not exactly you know, China doesn't exactly want harmony in
the United States, right, They don't want exactly sunshine, lollipops
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and rainbows. You know, these guys are are popping the popcorn,
watching us tear each other apart, you know, based on misstrews,
and probably laughing all the way to the bank. I mean,
that's how that's how real life works, as as sick
and deranged as that is. And so you know that's
why he didn't say anything. And you know, if him,
I probably won't say any. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I figured that was a direct answer to the question.
Of course, we know the Chinese Communist Party is stirring
the pot of division in this country through social media,
though actively engage in that.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
One of the more troubling issues of are illustrations of lawfare.
And you know, I practice laws of a litigation attorney
for sixteen years before it came on the Morning Show.
So I have a little bit of background in terms
of the uh, the straight face test that you have
to pass when you file a lawsuit the real estate
claims against Donald Trump in New York that somehow he
overvalued the real estate. I mean, you're talking about major
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banks that have their own legal departments, that do their
own real estate valuations. They are experts at this. This
was an arms length transaction. If your dad said the
place is worth a trillion dollars, they would have laughed
and said, no, we did our own evaluation. It's worth
acts and he can haggle over that. But they either
accepted his calculations, recognizing that there was enough this, I mean,
he was going to pay it back. They weren't damaged.
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There was no justiciable controversy that that lawsuit.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
You and I could go into this for four hours,
because this is what I do. I run the Trump organization.
Not only were they not damaged, they made hundreds of
millions of dollars, and they testify saying that they were
we were the best borrower they've ever had, meaning you know,
they were literally they had emails, which is how do
we loan Trump more? Money because he's literally the best borrower.
They called us the big whale and the platinum borrower, right,
and then Letsitsie James comes in and says that we
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somehow defrauded banks. We defrauded Deutsche Bank, the most sophisticated
real estate lender on planet Earth. And the great irony
of it is they did every year they did their
own appraisers, you know, appraisals on the assets, and they
had to meet some LV you know LTV tests and
every single year they plot, you know, they passed the
flying colors. So the collateral to the actual loan was
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the property itself was every year they were appraising and
it was passing the very test. There was never a default.
There was never a mispayment. There was never there wasn't
there was never a breach of contract, you know, there
there was nothing. There was nothing. And they came in
and they literally testified in court. I was sitting there
ten feet away from the guy from Deutsche Bank. These
are some of the best real estate as, these are
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some of the most honest people. We've never had a
problem with them. We've loved the relationship. We consider them
a platinum barer. And then all of a sudden, the
verdict comes down five hundred and sixty million dollars paid immediately,
you know, and and let ban Eric and Don and
Donald Trump from ever doing business in New York City again.
It was insane. Now, thankfully, Brian, the Appellate Court through
the hangout, including the presiding Judge of New York States,
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through the entire thing out at a five zero decision.
But this is the lawfare that we were against. But
they didn't care. They found a crooked judge and they
wanted to try and bankrupt our company, bankrupt our family,
no different than the gag orders they put on my
father every single day, which is why I was on
the courthouse steps yelling and screaming because you know, in
some of the cases I wasn't gagged, so I was
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the only Trump voice who could go out there and
communicate a message. It's what they wanted to do. They
wanted to silence us, they wanted to destroy us. They
wanted to ruin the company, they wanted to bankrupt our family.
They wanted to take my father out using any means possible,
which is the exact definition of a siege. That's why
I called the book under siege because you know, they
lay siege to not only are family, but to all
of us and our entire nation.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
I can't imagine the emotions you had to go through.
I mean basically, from the moment he walked down the
steps of pronouncing his presidency, you woke up and are
living a Kofka novel.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Yeah, maybe worse. Honestly, if you were to actually if
you read Undersage, you know, at the end of it,
you'd say, it almost can't be true. But we know
it is because every American lived parts of it in
their own life. I mean, if somebody did it in
a fictional novel, you'd say, you know, that's a little extreme,
but this is what they did. I would have never
thought that could have been the United States of America.
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I mean I could have never thought that an FBI
director Tomy and it was spending his time leaking memos
to the New York Times. I mean, aren't FBI directors.
You know, maybe I'm old school, but like I want
an FBI director to focus on, you know, not having
planes fly into buildings, make sure terrorists aren't shooting up
subway stations, making sure that our streets are safe, making
sure that there are no serial killers, like even that
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what most people think of an FBI director is doing,
meaning protecting the homeland. Instead this guy, you know, this
guy's buddies everybody over at you know, in your times,
leaking memos every single day involving conversations that he had
with the President of the United States, Like do we
not as a country deserve so much better than that,
you know, And it's it's crazy, like this isn't the
best of government, this is the worst of government. This
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is the worst way you could spend your task, spare money,
and just all of us, everybody listening, every civilian in
this nation demands better from these people.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Eric Trump, you and of course your father, Donald Trump,
showed the value of sticking it out, fighting against this nonsense,
constant attack regularly twenty four to seven a day. They
managed to persevere. And I really truly salute you and
your father for sticking it out and you know, showing
the strength. It was necessary because very few among us
could show it. But then again, very few among us
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could afford the legal charges and fees that you got
build monthly to deal with this law fair would have
broken the average American. So it's a red flag for
everybody there. But for the grace of God, go I.
Eric Trump, author of Underseas, The Families Fight or My
Famili's Fight to Save our Nation. Eric, we admit it
easy for our listeners get a copy. It's on my
blog page fifty five caresey dot com, and I will
strongly encourage them to get a copy of this book,
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read it, and also share it with their friends.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Brian really appreciate you, my friends. It was a great
honor to be on You go get a copy, send
it to your liberal friends. And it's on Amazon. It's
number one. We're doing great, so very proud of it.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Eric Trump, keep up with great worth