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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Johnline Weather forecast two day cloudy range shown up around
three pm and high forty eight, heavy rain overnight. Forty
three will be the overnight low.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
So not too much will drop there.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Spotty range tomorrow morning with more showers later in the
afternoon at some point fifty eight to the high end
of thirty two overnight with clouds and a cloudy Saturday
high of forty five twenty seven degrees. Right now, if
you've about kerr CE talk station, time for a traffic update.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Chuck from the UCLP Traffic Center. Expect more and you
see help, more clinical trials, more treatment obsens for personalized care,
more chances to get you back to being You visit
ucehelp dot com. Highways not all that bad now. North
Pound seventy five are x clear near the bridge. Sudden
the backup's gone. I'm not seeing any problems. Northbound four
(00:47):
seventy one into town. Fifty two is shut down in
Claremont County between seven forty three and Nevill's Spur due
to our wreck outside of Moscow. Chuck Ingramont fifty five
KR see the talk station.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
It's six thirty almost six thirty one fifty five cars
decalk station a very happy Friday Eve to you. Extra
special welcome back to the fifty five Karssee Morning Show.
FOP President Ken Coob. We're representing the Cincinnate Police Department Union.
Could you have you on the show? Ken, appreciate the
time you're spending with us this morning.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Hey, good morning, Brian, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I'm sure you got the word from Mayor Aftab Purvol
and I've been sort of rhetorically asking the question the
residents of the city of Cincinnati vote to become a
sanctuary city back in early seventeen twenty seventeen, he said
the city will not enforce federal immigration laws for those
here illegally. Quote, there have been no ice raids in
Cincinnati as of now, none despite the rumors and conspiracy theories,
(01:41):
but we are prepared if there is an ice rate
in our community. There's nothing we can do to prevent
that based on federal law, but there are things we
can do to support the community and mitigate the damage
from those raids, and we're working on that.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Maybe you can.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Explain what the hell he means, but he said, we
are The Cincinnati Police Department has no role in federal
immigration enforcement and Charmie McGuffey. I guess chimed in a
similar light. Do you have any personal feeling about the
duties of the Sinsint Police Department with respect to arresting
the obviously criminal illegal immigrants that are in our community.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Well? Yeah, I mean, we all take an oath of
office when we get sworn in as police officers, and
our oath is that we will enforce all federal, state,
and local laws.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
And having a mayor saying that.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
We are not going to do this is just wrong
and it's very misguided because if we decide that we're
not going to help federal law enforcement, then it's violating our.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Oath of office.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Well, I'm glad you came with loud and clear and
very straightforward on that one. That's kind of my perception
as well. And I don't know how much control the
mayor has. I mean, he can say whatever he wants
to say, but what goes on within the police department
that seems to be the role of the chief of
police and the hierarchy within the police department has three
(03:00):
Thiji said anything with regard to how the Cincinnati Police
Department will deal with ice and or cooperate or not
with Ice agents.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
No, this far, we've been given you zero directives, and
you know, I kind of treating this as status quo,
which has been you know, any time that we have
any kind of interaction with federal law enforcement, we help
them because they're federal law enforcement officers.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
That's what we're expected to do.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
If we have Green Township call us and ask us
for help, or Dellai Township, or you know, whatever department
asks us for help, we help them. That's what we're
sworn to do. We're sworn to uphold laws. And that's
what the Cincide Police officers will be doing.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
And that's refreshing to hear. And you know that has
been my understanding as well. I remember Jim Neil talking
about cooperation among the various law enforcement agencies in the
general region, and the cooperation was, you know, shared responsibilities
and shared services and everyone played nicely together in the sandbox.
I don't know if that's still the case with Charmie
(03:58):
McGuffey as head of the sheriffs the apartment, but you know,
it's nice to know you guys do play well together.
But this is a two way street too, because the
federal government helps Cincinnati law a CINCINNTI Police Department with
you know, their investigations as well, don't they.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Absolutely, you know, there has to be cooperation among law
enforcement agencies. We've done this for years.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
You know.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
I go back to my years when you know, I
was on the street working in our fugitive unit and
we would.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Uh, you know, every so often we'd have like the
FBI would.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Come in and you know, they're gonna they're gonna execute
thirty different search warrants around Cincinnati, and they don't have
the resources to do it all themselves, nor do they
have the lay of the land.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
So what do they do.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
They call local law enforcement and ask them for assistance. So,
you know, we would be up at three or four
o'clock in the morning. We would meet with these teams.
They would give us the addresses of places where they
have search warrants for and we would go assist them,
tell them that, you know, the most efficient route to
get to an address, you know, if there was any
concerns of neighborhoods, whatever else. We would give them all
(04:59):
this intelligence and then we would go with them and
serve these warrants. It's something that's been done for years,
and you know, unfortunately this is just a highly politicized thing,
and I just we have to do these things.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
This is what we're required by law to do.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
And to have americ come out and say, well, no,
we're not going to help them.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
We don't have a choice in the matter.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Well, and I appreciate how straightforward you are with that reality.
And I guess more fundamentally, you know, eastwore an oath
of office and as an officer of the law to
you know, hold the constitution, protect and serve the community.
The Trump administration presently is going after. I mean, these
(05:41):
are vile people. These these crimes that you know, it's
reported that many of them committed child rape, for example,
is just horrific and inexcusable and probably one of the
most heinous crimes that can cross my mind. But we
as a community, like other residents who live here, citizens
of the United States, if they get out of hand
and they commit crimes, they're bad guys. That's why we
(06:02):
arrest them and prosecute them to keep our communities safe.
I mean, moving over into the illegal immigrant category, we're
still talking about criminals here, don't we want to get
them out of the Greater Cincinnati community.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Ken, Well, I could say if one law enforcement does.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
I'm not sure what the mayor's position on this is,
but absolutely yeah, we have to protect our communities. And
just because you're here illegally doesn't mean that you get
a free pass to come here, break the law and
stay here.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
It's not going to happen.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Think about what you just said, Ken, that we're even
having this conversation because there are some inelected capacity that
believe because you are an illegal immigrant somehow you shouldn't
be arrested and prosecuted or at least expelled for having
committed crimes.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
It's this crazy, yeh, It's laughable that we're even having
this conversation.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I agree all day long. So where are we? I know,
last time we talked can in terms of numbers of
police officers. I know the problem hasn't been solved since
our life conversation a week or so ago, but remind
my listeners how many we should have in terms of
officers and where we are presently, and also the fun
fact of the number of people retiring.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
So we're currently at about nine hundred and twenty one.
Although I just had an officer called me yesterday who
went into our drop programs that I've retired last year
stayed for another year, and she called me yesterday and said, listen, I'm.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Done, done, I'm leaving. I've had enough. So we've lost
I think two already this year in the month of January.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
We lost seventy two last year, but our compliments one
thy fifty eight were at nine twenty one, so we're
roughly one hundred and forty short. And I just don't
see this year being any better. I think the staggering
number is we had eighteen people that left that were
not retirement eligible. Oh my eighteen, yes, oh much. That
(08:01):
is a staggering number. And it just seems you seem
things seem to just not be getting any better anytime
soon at least well.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
And that's that's walking away from a sizeable post retirement salary.
I mean, I'm not envious or I don't think it's
wrong or anything. But if you're walking away from you
know what is it could be three quarters of your
pay or something like that, and you're quitting early you're
not eligible for that. That is that's a statement and
a half right there. If I could ask you about
(08:30):
this most recent person who told you that they're just
done and over with. Is there a a sort of
a a trend or a reason that many of them
are citing specifically for why they can't they can't take
it anymore.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
I think a lot of it is just it just burnout.
You know, when when you're short on a relief and
you don't get a break from you know, the day
to day work, and you know, they worked in one
of the busiest districts here in the city, and when
you're asked to go and respond to just radio run
after radio run, and you know, just the violence that
(09:08):
they're experiencing on a daily basis. People to just get
burned out. You know, we don't have enough people, and
I know the city is making an effort. You know,
we've got a class in now of about forty people
that would be graduating in May. We're gonna have another
class in July, but we've got to do things to
make this place more attractive. And having them here come
out and say we're not helping a federal law enforcement
(09:31):
agency that's not helping make this place more attractive, it's
making it worse. And you know, we're going to see
eventually what the fallout is going to be from that. Jeez.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Well, prayers, love and support from my listening audience and
me to the CINCINNTI Police officers. We certainly appreciate what
you're doing and we have an understanding and for found understanding.
Thanks to you, Ken Cover for bringing it to our
attention of the problems that are facing the insant police department.
God bless you, sir. Thanks for coming on the program
and in time with my listeners and me, and well,
(10:03):
best love to all the officers in the city of Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Sure, thank Brian. Thanks, I appreciate the support.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Anytime, my friend, anytime, Ken Kober stick around. Folks at
the top of the oir news Len Arnold Young Marines,
she's at the door. She's waiting to talk with us,
and I'm looking forward to that. We got a little
time between now and then. Feel free to call five one, three, seven,
four nine fifty five hundred, eight hundred eighty two to
three talking to the phone to or I'll give you
in a minute Prestige interiors to have your kitchenering model
professionally done by a man who's done kitchens almost exclusively
(10:32):
for thirty five years, including my kitchen you know, I
think we're going on a decade. I think since we
had our KITCHENO model, and I still am kind of
like I walk into it. It's almost like a new
project's been done every time I walk into it, because
I remember the old one and we love our kitchen
so much. John transformed that space and it literally is
the heart of the home. I don't know how much
(10:53):
time you spend in your kitchen, but we spend gobs
of time in our kitchen. So make it the best
kitchen you can get. Or you a small project you're
sick of the counters in the in the cabinets. He
can do a small project, but if you want to
do a gut rehab like we did, he is the
man to deal with because from initial design to final installation.
John Ryan is there with you every step of the way.
With all of his experience in doing kitchens, He's got
(11:15):
fantastic ideas, so transformative kitchens a plus with the better business.
Burrea's member of the National Kitchen Bath Association. Check them out
online see some of the projects he's done over the years,
and trust me, all of them are not on the website.
Prestige one two three dot com Prestige one two three
dot com. Please tell John Ryan Brian said hi when
you call him up at five one three two four
seven zero two two nine five one three two four
(11:36):
seven zero two two nine fifty five KRC.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
This is Ashley Aikeneddi from the Ben and Ashley I
almost
Johnline Weather forecast two day cloudy range shown up around
three pm and high forty eight, heavy rain overnight. Forty
three will be the overnight low.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
So not too much will drop there.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Spotty range tomorrow morning with more showers later in the
afternoon at some point fifty eight to the high end
of thirty two overnight with clouds and a cloudy Saturday
high of forty five twenty seven degrees. Right now, if
you've about kerr CE talk station, time for a traffic update.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Chuck from the UCLP Traffic Center. Expect more and you
see help, more clinical trials, more treatment obsens for personalized care,
more chances to get you back to being You visit
ucehelp dot com. Highways not all that bad now. North
Pound seventy five are x clear near the bridge. Sudden
the backup's gone. I'm not seeing any problems. Northbound four
(00:47):
seventy one into town. Fifty two is shut down in
Claremont County between seven forty three and Nevill's Spur due
to our wreck outside of Moscow. Chuck Ingramont fifty five
KR see the talk station.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
It's six thirty almost six thirty one fifty five cars
decalk station a very happy Friday Eve to you. Extra
special welcome back to the fifty five Karssee Morning Show.
FOP President Ken Coob. We're representing the Cincinnate Police Department Union.
Could you have you on the show? Ken, appreciate the
time you're spending with us this morning.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Hey, good morning, Brian, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I'm sure you got the word from Mayor Aftab Purvol
and I've been sort of rhetorically asking the question the
residents of the city of Cincinnati vote to become a
sanctuary city back in early seventeen twenty seventeen, he said
the city will not enforce federal immigration laws for those
here illegally. Quote, there have been no ice raids in
Cincinnati as of now, none despite the rumors and conspiracy theories,
(01:41):
but we are prepared if there is an ice rate
in our community. There's nothing we can do to prevent
that based on federal law, but there are things we
can do to support the community and mitigate the damage
from those raids, and we're working on that.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Maybe you can.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Explain what the hell he means, but he said, we
are The Cincinnati Police Department has no role in federal
immigration enforcement and Charmie McGuffey. I guess chimed in a
similar light. Do you have any personal feeling about the
duties of the Sinsint Police Department with respect to arresting
the obviously criminal illegal immigrants that are in our community.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Well? Yeah, I mean, we all take an oath of
office when we get sworn in as police officers, and
our oath is that we will enforce all federal, state,
and local laws.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
And having a mayor saying that.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
We are not going to do this is just wrong
and it's very misguided because if we decide that we're
not going to help federal law enforcement, then it's violating our.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Oath of office.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Well, I'm glad you came with loud and clear and
very straightforward on that one. That's kind of my perception
as well. And I don't know how much control the
mayor has. I mean, he can say whatever he wants
to say, but what goes on within the police department
that seems to be the role of the chief of
police and the hierarchy within the police department has three
(03:00):
Thiji said anything with regard to how the Cincinnati Police
Department will deal with ice and or cooperate or not
with Ice agents.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
No, this far, we've been given you zero directives, and
you know, I kind of treating this as status quo,
which has been you know, any time that we have
any kind of interaction with federal law enforcement, we help
them because they're federal law enforcement officers.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
That's what we're expected to do.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
If we have Green Township call us and ask us
for help, or Dellai Township, or you know, whatever department
asks us for help, we help them. That's what we're
sworn to do. We're sworn to uphold laws. And that's
what the Cincide Police officers will be doing.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
And that's refreshing to hear. And you know that has
been my understanding as well. I remember Jim Neil talking
about cooperation among the various law enforcement agencies in the
general region, and the cooperation was, you know, shared responsibilities
and shared services and everyone played nicely together in the sandbox.
I don't know if that's still the case with Charmie
(03:58):
McGuffey as head of the sheriffs the apartment, but you know,
it's nice to know you guys do play well together.
But this is a two way street too, because the
federal government helps Cincinnati law a CINCINNTI Police Department with
you know, their investigations as well, don't they.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Absolutely, you know, there has to be cooperation among law
enforcement agencies. We've done this for years.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
You know.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
I go back to my years when you know, I
was on the street working in our fugitive unit and
we would.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Uh, you know, every so often we'd have like the
FBI would.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Come in and you know, they're gonna they're gonna execute
thirty different search warrants around Cincinnati, and they don't have
the resources to do it all themselves, nor do they
have the lay of the land.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
So what do they do.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
They call local law enforcement and ask them for assistance. So,
you know, we would be up at three or four
o'clock in the morning. We would meet with these teams.
They would give us the addresses of places where they
have search warrants for and we would go assist them,
tell them that, you know, the most efficient route to
get to an address, you know, if there was any
concerns of neighborhoods, whatever else. We would give them all
(04:59):
this intelligence and then we would go with them and
serve these warrants. It's something that's been done for years,
and you know, unfortunately this is just a highly politicized thing,
and I just we have to do these things.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
This is what we're required by law to do.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
And to have americ come out and say, well, no,
we're not going to help them.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
We don't have a choice in the matter.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Well, and I appreciate how straightforward you are with that reality.
And I guess more fundamentally, you know, eastwore an oath
of office and as an officer of the law to
you know, hold the constitution, protect and serve the community.
The Trump administration presently is going after. I mean, these
(05:41):
are vile people. These these crimes that you know, it's
reported that many of them committed child rape, for example,
is just horrific and inexcusable and probably one of the
most heinous crimes that can cross my mind. But we
as a community, like other residents who live here, citizens
of the United States, if they get out of hand
and they commit crimes, they're bad guys. That's why we
(06:02):
arrest them and prosecute them to keep our communities safe.
I mean, moving over into the illegal immigrant category, we're
still talking about criminals here, don't we want to get
them out of the Greater Cincinnati community.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Ken, Well, I could say if one law enforcement does.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
I'm not sure what the mayor's position on this is,
but absolutely yeah, we have to protect our communities. And
just because you're here illegally doesn't mean that you get
a free pass to come here, break the law and
stay here.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
It's not going to happen.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Think about what you just said, Ken, that we're even
having this conversation because there are some inelected capacity that
believe because you are an illegal immigrant somehow you shouldn't
be arrested and prosecuted or at least expelled for having
committed crimes.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
It's this crazy, yeh, It's laughable that we're even having
this conversation.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I agree all day long. So where are we? I know,
last time we talked can in terms of numbers of
police officers. I know the problem hasn't been solved since
our life conversation a week or so ago, but remind
my listeners how many we should have in terms of
officers and where we are presently, and also the fun
fact of the number of people retiring.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
So we're currently at about nine hundred and twenty one.
Although I just had an officer called me yesterday who
went into our drop programs that I've retired last year
stayed for another year, and she called me yesterday and said, listen, I'm.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Done, done, I'm leaving. I've had enough. So we've lost
I think two already this year in the month of January.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
We lost seventy two last year, but our compliments one
thy fifty eight were at nine twenty one, so we're
roughly one hundred and forty short. And I just don't
see this year being any better. I think the staggering
number is we had eighteen people that left that were
not retirement eligible. Oh my eighteen, yes, oh much. That
(08:01):
is a staggering number. And it just seems you seem
things seem to just not be getting any better anytime
soon at least well.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
And that's that's walking away from a sizeable post retirement salary.
I mean, I'm not envious or I don't think it's
wrong or anything. But if you're walking away from you
know what is it could be three quarters of your
pay or something like that, and you're quitting early you're
not eligible for that. That is that's a statement and
a half right there. If I could ask you about
(08:30):
this most recent person who told you that they're just
done and over with. Is there a a sort of
a a trend or a reason that many of them
are citing specifically for why they can't they can't take
it anymore.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
I think a lot of it is just it just burnout.
You know, when when you're short on a relief and
you don't get a break from you know, the day
to day work, and you know, they worked in one
of the busiest districts here in the city, and when
you're asked to go and respond to just radio run
after radio run, and you know, just the violence that
(09:08):
they're experiencing on a daily basis. People to just get
burned out. You know, we don't have enough people, and
I know the city is making an effort. You know,
we've got a class in now of about forty people
that would be graduating in May. We're gonna have another
class in July, but we've got to do things to
make this place more attractive. And having them here come
out and say we're not helping a federal law enforcement
(09:31):
agency that's not helping make this place more attractive, it's
making it worse. And you know, we're going to see
eventually what the fallout is going to be from that. Jeez.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Well, prayers, love and support from my listening audience and
me to the CINCINNTI Police officers. We certainly appreciate what
you're doing and we have an understanding and for found understanding.
Thanks to you, Ken Cover for bringing it to our
attention of the problems that are facing the insant police department.
God bless you, sir. Thanks for coming on the program
and in time with my listeners and me, and well,
(10:03):
best love to all the officers in the city of Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Sure, thank Brian. Thanks, I appreciate the support.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Anytime, my friend, anytime, Ken Kober stick around. Folks at
the top of the oir news Len Arnold Young Marines,
she's at the door. She's waiting to talk with us,
and I'm looking forward to that. We got a little
time between now and then. Feel free to call five one, three, seven,
four nine fifty five hundred, eight hundred eighty two to
three talking to the phone to or I'll give you
in a minute Prestige interiors to have your kitchenering model
professionally done by a man who's done kitchens almost exclusively
(10:32):
for thirty five years, including my kitchen you know, I
think we're going on a decade. I think since we
had our KITCHENO model, and I still am kind of
like I walk into it. It's almost like a new
project's been done every time I walk into it, because
I remember the old one and we love our kitchen
so much. John transformed that space and it literally is
the heart of the home. I don't know how much
(10:53):
time you spend in your kitchen, but we spend gobs
of time in our kitchen. So make it the best
kitchen you can get. Or you a small project you're
sick of the counters in the in the cabinets. He
can do a small project, but if you want to
do a gut rehab like we did, he is the
man to deal with because from initial design to final installation.
John Ryan is there with you every step of the way.
With all of his experience in doing kitchens, He's got
(11:15):
fantastic ideas, so transformative kitchens a plus with the better business.
Burrea's member of the National Kitchen Bath Association. Check them out
online see some of the projects he's done over the years,
and trust me, all of them are not on the website.
Prestige one two three dot com Prestige one two three
dot com. Please tell John Ryan Brian said hi when
you call him up at five one three two four
seven zero two two nine five one three two four
(11:36):
seven zero two two nine fifty five KRC.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
This is Ashley Aikeneddi from the Ben and Ashley I
almost
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