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Speaker 1 (00:03):
At six oh five here Vitch about Kerr Seedy Talk Station.
Bryan Thomas wishing everyone a very happy Friday and if
I don't stick around tech Friday. At the bottom of
this hour, George Brenaman, Keith Tennenfield restore Wellness dot Org
and studio for an hour try to get us on
the right path as we start the new calendar year
signal ninety nine controversial. She is well connected. Definitely. She'll
be in studio all hour, the entire eight eight o'clock hour.
(00:24):
We're going to talk about this topic that we're bringing
up right now. And thanks to Ken Cober FOP president
for return to the morning show for the second time
in a week. Welcome back, Ken Cobra, and I appreciate
the announcement. Apparently you're bringing this to everybody's attention, including
members of Sincai City Council who didn't seem to really
realize that Cheryl Long, the city manager, was negotiating a
massive settlement behind the scenes with the Hinton family. Who
(00:46):
might that be Ryan Hinton, eighteen years old, shot and
killed by a Cincai police officer last year. His father
then a day later ran over Hamilton County sheriff's deputy
Larry Henderson, killing him. Eighteen year old Hinton no longer
with us, but Connie Pillage, Hamilton County prosecutor, announced last
summer that the officer who shot Ryan was justified in
doing so because he turned a gun on the police officer.
(01:08):
Joining the program today to talk about why in the
hell would the city of Cincinnati write a check to
the hitting family over that incident. FOP President Ken Kober,
thank you very much for bringing this to every day's
attention and joining the program this morning to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Hey, good morning, Brian. Yeah, thanks for having me. It's
been an interesting day yesterday, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Well, I guess I don't want you to do any
sources because apparently someone from behind the scenes let you
know about this. But how is it that this settlement
agreement could be negotiated or even discussed now? City Manager
Long issued a statement after you brought out the point
that this was being negotiated. You didn't say it was done,
You didn't say it was settled. You say it was
being quietly negotiated behind the scenes. Cheryl Long comes out
(01:52):
in response to the news of that your news saying
the city has not reached a subtle agreement, okay, and
vehemently reject the notion that any discussions are being rushed,
not that they're not happening, I might interject, she said
are happening in secret or designed to keep information from
(02:14):
city council. Now the latter part of the statement, I
guess it really has happened in secret because Local News
reached out to Seth w Wash and some of the
council members, and it sounded to me like they didn't
realize it was going on. Either where are we on this,
sir No?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
And that's that's exactly. It's It's funny that she put
this statement out because I had several council members that
reached out with me last night that said, look, we're
just learning about this. We were absolutely against it, against this. Yeah,
we saw the article, the article that the Inquire posted
where you know, Jeff Kramerton, who's the head of the
Budget and Finance, said this sends a terrible message to
the Cincinnati police. He's like, when these officers did absolutely
(02:50):
nothing wrong, he is I'm against this, they said. As
late as almost eleven o'clock last night, I had council
members texted me going, look, we support the police. We
were absolutely against this. We had no idea. So obviously
the information that I had was absolutely correct, because these
council members are supporting what I put out right. And
it's interesting because I did I had a source inside
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city Hall that thought that this was so egregious in
how this was being done and the fact that they
were doing this, that asked me to make this public
before it was finalized. And unfortunately the city manager is
upset about the fact that this has become public before
(03:32):
it could be finalized. Yeah, and I think, you know,
not only do the officers that were involved, but certainly
to the Henderson family to fight this, to make sure
that taxpayer callers are not being given to a family
that created such chaos and tragedy of the course of
a twenty four hour period back in May.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Well, you know, well, I just I tell well, let
me just quote the Jeff Grammerting statement and also Sess
Wall statement because again going to what Cheryl Long had
said again to this idea, this is being negotiated behind
the scenes, it's being hidden from people, or it's being rushed.
Kramerton said, He's the city council is going to be
talking about this on Monday. I think the city's position
(04:15):
is that the officer has not done anything wrong, which
is exactly what the prosecutor said last year. I see
nothing in the video contrary to that. I do not
feel a settlement as warranted. I think that that would
send the wrong message to the since a police amen
to your point, Walsh, it is a tremendous disrespect to
the families involved to make a public spectacle out of
(04:36):
a tragedy. I think it's unconscionable for the City of
Cincinnati to be considering a settlement without the full deliberation
of council. The tragedy that unfolded and made devastated our community,
and it's our responsibility to heal the wreckage, not to
create more division. So apparently they're going to have an
executive session on Monday to talk about the details of this.
I guess what Long denies is a rushed, quiet, behind
(04:59):
the scenes settlement negotiation. So it's going to get a
little sunlight. I don't know if you know, but I'm
frustrated by the whole concept that City Manager chare Along
has any authority to enter into what seems to me
moving toward a binding agreement without the approval of council.
Does she have the ability to enter into agreement that
(05:20):
may involve millions of dollars? We have no idea what
the dollar figure that's being discussed is, but it's potentially millions.
Who knows. But does she have an off authority to
enter into any settlement for any amount without Council's approval?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
We lots of questions. I don't know, And you know,
we talk about shedding light on this. They're going to
be an executive session. If you know what executive session is.
That kicks everybody from the public out. This is done,
there are no notes that are taken, This is done quietly,
just almost like what I said in my press release.
And we won't know, We won't know what that discussion is.
(05:52):
Why shouldn't it be done in public? Why shouldn't public
have a right to know what's being discussed? Wait, why
it's being discussed, you know, in what council has to
say about it, what the city administration has to say
about it. Maybe, maybe, somehow I can't spamom a scenario
where this would seem like a good idea, But I
don't know. Maybe the city administration has this, Why would
(06:14):
you be doing this in executive session where if the
public doesn't have any ear to be able to hear
what's being said.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yes, because right now that's the cop was cleared. It
was certainly a justifiable use of deadly force, considering he
was facing eminent apprehension of grievous bodily harm or deaf
because the kid turned a firearm on him. So that's
all behind no grand jury referral by the Hamilton County prosecutor,
who is quite liberal, I might point out, So the
council members all seem to be in agreement with you
(06:42):
and me and the general public that this would be
crazy to write a check to the family, because why
none of us have any information that would justify the
negotiations or the payment of any money. What fact, what
piece of information has been deprived of us thus far,
which would just even sitting down at the table with
the other side to talk about writing a check. It
(07:04):
was all above board. We've got video of it. I mean,
what are we missing, Ken Coober?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, that's that. That is the million dollar question. And
my guess is absolutely nothing. And I've said this sentiment
release crime apparently does pay. You know, we paid rioters
in twenty twenty eight point one million dollars, and now
we're potentially paying out a family you know who won
points a gun at the cop, you know, puts this
officer in a position where he has to act to
save his life. And the next day another family family
(07:34):
member viciously murders a deputy and somehow we're going to
even talk about a settlement. To me, it is absolutely
uncomtionable that they would do something like that. But you know,
he said, in the city of Cincinnati, where crime does pay,
it's not surprising.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Well, and the timing couldn't be better on this revelation.
Can Cobert considering a mayor have to have Pearlwall's proposal
of a big tax kite because a tax hike because
apparently he needs extra money? Again, maybe it's because we're
writing a bunch of checks to people who to whom
we do not need to write checks. And it also interesting,
Ken Cober that, in spite of the fact that some
of the council members seem shocked by this and are
(08:09):
on the record saying this is a bad idea, city
Manager er Lung did issue his statement as much of
filled with prevarication as it is no word from the
mayor on this very important issue. Don't you think it
would be important for the mayor of the City of
Cincinnati might maybe chime in on this himself.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Well, unless he's being left in the dark light councilor
who knows, don't now? Going back, I was not given
any indication whatsoever that the mayor's aware of this.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Wow. Sounds to me like we have a city manager.
Run them up free reign Ken Cober pause. I want
to bring you back if you don't mind, because I
want to ask you about the revelations. Six at fifty
five Karrose. They talk station. By the time I'm switching,
everyone are very happy Friday, trying to figure out what's
(08:59):
going on in the city. Coup David, that's a good thing.
And thankfully we have folks like FOP President Ken Cobra
to let us know and let maybe even some council
members know about this potential settlement with a Rodney Hinton family.
But pivoting away from that and we all of our
popcorn out even though we're not going to find out
because it's executive session, as you pointed out, that's in
(09:19):
closed doors. They don't even keep notes, so we're not
going to really get all the details maybe ever. And
that's kind of consistent with what happened the other day.
Going back to Signal ninety nine, Ken, she's pointed out
and made an announcement that the executive session just the
other earlier this week to discuss a former or at
least unadministrative le police chief, Teresa Thiji. They were given
an ORR report from Frost, Brown and Todd, who has
(09:41):
retained to investigate the whole situation because Ken and correct
me if I'm wrong. When she was placed on administrative leave,
they didn't cite any particular action that justified it. They
just put her on leave.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Right.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
We never did find out what the impetus was behind that,
did we No?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Absolutely not. In fact, I was part of this whole
investigation is determine whether or not she should still be
the police chief. And it's like it's I kind of
it's kind of like making an arrest and then decide
what the charges are going to be. Yeah, And it's
just it's wrong the way that that Chief Figi has
been treated, and it's it's not surprising that we're doing
(10:18):
more things in executive session and I think it's important
to note that the law firm does an oral report.
They don't They don't want to put anything in writing
because because clearly what they're signaling is there's nothing here.
Because otherwise, why would you not put a report in
writing saying here, here's what we discovered. Here you go, Well,
(10:39):
they're not going to do that because they're not going
to put their name on the line and say that, yes,
you have just cause to fire her because it's just.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Not there, well not there, or you know, if there
was a reason, certainly they would let the public know
because it would at least provide some measure of justification
for putting her on administrative leave in the first place.
The silence, I think proves that there was nothing there.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, without a doubt. I mean, we're talking now that
they's spent almost fifty thousand dollars and coax payer dollars,
fifty thousand dollars, it cocks pair dollars, and it's nothing
but silence.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Well, and according to the Well, again, we're apparently relying
on an inside source that provided signal ninety nine with
what the Frostbound Todd oral statement said. And the point
is apparently they spoke about some nepotism, favoritism, that she
lacked leadership. Some of the police officers believe that. Now.
I guarantee any police chief that's running this inside police department,
(11:39):
there are gonna be some officers that'll suggest there's lack
of leadership or favoritism. So that seems to be run
of the mill. Maybe some handling of the issues regarding
Somemmer violence, but nothing else, no cause for termination, and
we hear nothing from the city on this. The silence
is definitely again going back to executive session. We're not
entitled to be there, so we got to rely on
(12:00):
inside sources. So is this true? Is it not? Maybe
we'll find out, But as of right now, I think
we're setting ourselves up for yet writing yet another settlement check.
If they don't do right by Fiji and put her
back in her position, I think she's going to have
a lawsuit on our hands.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, I mean it's likely, and don't know. Maybe that's
why we're going to raise the eat able to pay
for some of these lawsuits. But it's interesting if what's
being said is true, that these are the reasons. You know,
I've been here almost twenty six years now, worked under
several different police chiefs. You know, I regularly talk to
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retired guys that were cops in the sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties,
well before me that have complained about these same things.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah, that was like, So that was my I was like, under,
is there any police chief that is completely one percent
supported and endorsed by every single police officer? And I
think we all know, like he just said, no, never,
That's never happened.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Every So the interesting thing is, if that's the case,
and this is what they're going to try to hang
their hat on, they're expecting Chief Fiji to fix a
culture of policing that has gone on in Cincinnati or
the administration that's gone on in Cincinnati for I don't know,
let's just say sixty years. You want her to fix
that in two years? That's just come on. If that's
(13:21):
what they're hanging their hat on, then yeah, I would
suspect if they do Terminator, that they can expect to
face a rather hefty lawsuit. And I think she's probably
going to have a pretty good chance of prevailing in that.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yes, Now, the question is, and I'm not quite sure
how this all ultimately works given how weird the whole
scenario is, we have an interim police chief. Since she's
on administrative leave, is there still a possibility that she
could be brought back and placed back in the position
of the police chief.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I think it's possible, but I think it's also highly unlikely.
The damage has been done. I mean, it's how could
she go back and work for the same administration that
has done this to her? What does that look like?
I just I don't think that makes any good sense.
And I think if you asked her, she would probably
agree that at this point the damage has done. If
(14:11):
I I certainly wouldn't want to know, if I wouldn't
want to come back, and because then you're going to
be looking over your shoulder, you're going to be walking
the eggshells. Yes, that's not any way to live. It's
not any way, certainly to try to run a police
department of nearly a thousand people. I think at this point,
the best thing that the city could do is come
up with an agreement that both sides can live with,
(14:32):
and you know, let her retire and move on with life,
because you know, as bad as this has been, Like
I said, I just I don't see a scenario where
she could come back and be able to work in
these conditions.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, this is all created what will be a toxic
work environment for police Chief DGI. So I hear and
I agree completely with what you're saying. FOP President Ken Cover,
thank you for coming on the program today talk about this,
and I want to thank you on behalf of all
the CINCINNTI taxpayers for bringing this to everyone's and I'm
sure since a council members are pretty appreciative of you
for doing it as well, because at least the ones
that have talked on record are against the concept of
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writing a check in this particular case. Ken, have a
wonderful weekend. I hope to talk to you again real
soon and keep your popcorn out and see if we
find out anything from our inside sources and council about
what happens in that closed door no note executive session Monday.
Take care of my friend.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yep, thanks for having me, Brian. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Anytime man, anytime, six twenty six check front of me.
At six oh five here Vitch about Kerr Seedy Talk Station.
Bryan Thomas wishing everyone a very happy Friday and if
I don't stick around tech Friday. At the bottom of
this hour, George Brenaman, Keith Tennenfield restore Wellness dot Org
and studio for an hour try to get us on
the right path as we start the new calendar year
signal ninety nine controversial. She is well connected. Definitely. She'll
be in studio all hour, the entire eight eight o'clock hour.
(00:24):
We're going to talk about this topic that we're bringing
up right now. And thanks to Ken Cober FOP president
for return to the morning show for the second time
in a week. Welcome back, Ken Cobra, and I appreciate
the announcement. Apparently you're bringing this to everybody's attention, including
members of Sincai City Council who didn't seem to really
realize that Cheryl Long, the city manager, was negotiating a
massive settlement behind the scenes with the Hinton family. Who
(00:46):
might that be Ryan Hinton, eighteen years old, shot and
killed by a Cincai police officer last year. His father
then a day later ran over Hamilton County sheriff's deputy
Larry Henderson, killing him. Eighteen year old Hinton no longer
with us, but Connie Pillage, Hamilton County prosecutor, announced last
summer that the officer who shot Ryan was justified in
doing so because he turned a gun on the police officer.
(01:08):
Joining the program today to talk about why in the
hell would the city of Cincinnati write a check to
the hitting family over that incident. FOP President Ken Kober,
thank you very much for bringing this to every day's
attention and joining the program this morning to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Hey, good morning, Brian. Yeah, thanks for having me. It's
been an interesting day yesterday, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Well, I guess I don't want you to do any
sources because apparently someone from behind the scenes let you
know about this. But how is it that this settlement
agreement could be negotiated or even discussed now? City Manager
Long issued a statement after you brought out the point
that this was being negotiated. You didn't say it was done,
You didn't say it was settled. You say it was
being quietly negotiated behind the scenes. Cheryl Long comes out
(01:52):
in response to the news of that your news saying
the city has not reached a subtle agreement, okay, and
vehemently reject the notion that any discussions are being rushed,
not that they're not happening, I might interject, she said
are happening in secret or designed to keep information from
(02:14):
city council. Now the latter part of the statement, I
guess it really has happened in secret because Local News
reached out to Seth w Wash and some of the
council members, and it sounded to me like they didn't
realize it was going on. Either where are we on this,
sir No?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
And that's that's exactly. It's It's funny that she put
this statement out because I had several council members that
reached out with me last night that said, look, we're
just learning about this. We were absolutely against it, against this. Yeah,
we saw the article, the article that the Inquire posted
where you know, Jeff Kramerton, who's the head of the
Budget and Finance, said this sends a terrible message to
the Cincinnati police. He's like, when these officers did absolutely
(02:50):
nothing wrong, he is I'm against this, they said. As
late as almost eleven o'clock last night, I had council
members texted me going, look, we support the police. We
were absolutely against this. We had no idea. So obviously
the information that I had was absolutely correct, because these
council members are supporting what I put out right. And
it's interesting because I did I had a source inside
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city Hall that thought that this was so egregious in
how this was being done and the fact that they
were doing this, that asked me to make this public
before it was finalized. And unfortunately the city manager is
upset about the fact that this has become public before
(03:32):
it could be finalized. Yeah, and I think, you know,
not only do the officers that were involved, but certainly
to the Henderson family to fight this, to make sure
that taxpayer callers are not being given to a family
that created such chaos and tragedy of the course of
a twenty four hour period back in May.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Well, you know, well, I just I tell well, let
me just quote the Jeff Grammerting statement and also Sess
Wall statement because again going to what Cheryl Long had
said again to this idea, this is being negotiated behind
the scenes, it's being hidden from people, or it's being rushed.
Kramerton said, He's the city council is going to be
talking about this on Monday. I think the city's position
(04:15):
is that the officer has not done anything wrong, which
is exactly what the prosecutor said last year. I see
nothing in the video contrary to that. I do not
feel a settlement as warranted. I think that that would
send the wrong message to the since a police amen
to your point, Walsh, it is a tremendous disrespect to
the families involved to make a public spectacle out of
(04:36):
a tragedy. I think it's unconscionable for the City of
Cincinnati to be considering a settlement without the full deliberation
of council. The tragedy that unfolded and made devastated our community,
and it's our responsibility to heal the wreckage, not to
create more division. So apparently they're going to have an
executive session on Monday to talk about the details of this.
I guess what Long denies is a rushed, quiet, behind
(04:59):
the scenes settlement negotiation. So it's going to get a
little sunlight. I don't know if you know, but I'm
frustrated by the whole concept that City Manager chare Along
has any authority to enter into what seems to me
moving toward a binding agreement without the approval of council.
Does she have the ability to enter into agreement that
(05:20):
may involve millions of dollars? We have no idea what
the dollar figure that's being discussed is, but it's potentially millions.
Who knows. But does she have an off authority to
enter into any settlement for any amount without Council's approval?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
We lots of questions. I don't know, And you know,
we talk about shedding light on this. They're going to
be an executive session. If you know what executive session is.
That kicks everybody from the public out. This is done,
there are no notes that are taken, This is done quietly,
just almost like what I said in my press release.
And we won't know, We won't know what that discussion is.
(05:52):
Why shouldn't it be done in public? Why shouldn't public
have a right to know what's being discussed? Wait, why
it's being discussed, you know, in what council has to
say about it, what the city administration has to say
about it. Maybe, maybe, somehow I can't spamom a scenario
where this would seem like a good idea, But I
don't know. Maybe the city administration has this, Why would
(06:14):
you be doing this in executive session where if the
public doesn't have any ear to be able to hear
what's being said.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yes, because right now that's the cop was cleared. It
was certainly a justifiable use of deadly force, considering he
was facing eminent apprehension of grievous bodily harm or deaf
because the kid turned a firearm on him. So that's
all behind no grand jury referral by the Hamilton County prosecutor,
who is quite liberal, I might point out, So the
council members all seem to be in agreement with you
(06:42):
and me and the general public that this would be
crazy to write a check to the family, because why
none of us have any information that would justify the
negotiations or the payment of any money. What fact, what
piece of information has been deprived of us thus far,
which would just even sitting down at the table with
the other side to talk about writing a check. It
(07:04):
was all above board. We've got video of it. I mean,
what are we missing, Ken Coober?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, that's that. That is the million dollar question. And
my guess is absolutely nothing. And I've said this sentiment
release crime apparently does pay. You know, we paid rioters
in twenty twenty eight point one million dollars, and now
we're potentially paying out a family you know who won
points a gun at the cop, you know, puts this
officer in a position where he has to act to
save his life. And the next day another family family
(07:34):
member viciously murders a deputy and somehow we're going to
even talk about a settlement. To me, it is absolutely
uncomtionable that they would do something like that. But you know,
he said, in the city of Cincinnati, where crime does pay,
it's not surprising.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Well, and the timing couldn't be better on this revelation.
Can Cobert considering a mayor have to have Pearlwall's proposal
of a big tax kite because a tax hike because
apparently he needs extra money? Again, maybe it's because we're
writing a bunch of checks to people who to whom
we do not need to write checks. And it also interesting,
Ken Cober that, in spite of the fact that some
of the council members seem shocked by this and are
(08:09):
on the record saying this is a bad idea, city
Manager er Lung did issue his statement as much of
filled with prevarication as it is no word from the
mayor on this very important issue. Don't you think it
would be important for the mayor of the City of
Cincinnati might maybe chime in on this himself.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Well, unless he's being left in the dark light councilor
who knows, don't now? Going back, I was not given
any indication whatsoever that the mayor's aware of this.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Wow. Sounds to me like we have a city manager.
Run them up free reign Ken Cober pause. I want
to bring you back if you don't mind, because I
want to ask you about the revelations. Six at fifty
five Karrose. They talk station. By the time I'm switching,
everyone are very happy Friday, trying to figure out what's
(08:59):
going on in the city. Coup David, that's a good thing.
And thankfully we have folks like FOP President Ken Cobra
to let us know and let maybe even some council
members know about this potential settlement with a Rodney Hinton family.
But pivoting away from that and we all of our
popcorn out even though we're not going to find out
because it's executive session, as you pointed out, that's in
(09:19):
closed doors. They don't even keep notes, so we're not
going to really get all the details maybe ever. And
that's kind of consistent with what happened the other day.
Going back to Signal ninety nine, Ken, she's pointed out
and made an announcement that the executive session just the
other earlier this week to discuss a former or at
least unadministrative le police chief, Teresa Thiji. They were given
an ORR report from Frost, Brown and Todd, who has
(09:41):
retained to investigate the whole situation because Ken and correct
me if I'm wrong. When she was placed on administrative leave,
they didn't cite any particular action that justified it. They
just put her on leave.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Right.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
We never did find out what the impetus was behind that,
did we No?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Absolutely not. In fact, I was part of this whole
investigation is determine whether or not she should still be
the police chief. And it's like it's I kind of
it's kind of like making an arrest and then decide
what the charges are going to be. Yeah, And it's
just it's wrong the way that that Chief Figi has
been treated, and it's it's not surprising that we're doing
(10:18):
more things in executive session and I think it's important
to note that the law firm does an oral report.
They don't They don't want to put anything in writing
because because clearly what they're signaling is there's nothing here.
Because otherwise, why would you not put a report in
writing saying here, here's what we discovered. Here you go, Well,
(10:39):
they're not going to do that because they're not going
to put their name on the line and say that, yes,
you have just cause to fire her because it's just.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Not there, well not there, or you know, if there
was a reason, certainly they would let the public know
because it would at least provide some measure of justification
for putting her on administrative leave in the first place.
The silence, I think proves that there was nothing there.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, without a doubt. I mean, we're talking now that
they's spent almost fifty thousand dollars and coax payer dollars,
fifty thousand dollars, it cocks pair dollars, and it's nothing
but silence.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Well, and according to the Well, again, we're apparently relying
on an inside source that provided signal ninety nine with
what the Frostbound Todd oral statement said. And the point
is apparently they spoke about some nepotism, favoritism, that she
lacked leadership. Some of the police officers believe that. Now.
I guarantee any police chief that's running this inside police department,
(11:39):
there are gonna be some officers that'll suggest there's lack
of leadership or favoritism. So that seems to be run
of the mill. Maybe some handling of the issues regarding
Somemmer violence, but nothing else, no cause for termination, and
we hear nothing from the city on this. The silence
is definitely again going back to executive session. We're not
entitled to be there, so we got to rely on
(12:00):
inside sources. So is this true? Is it not? Maybe
we'll find out, But as of right now, I think
we're setting ourselves up for yet writing yet another settlement check.
If they don't do right by Fiji and put her
back in her position, I think she's going to have
a lawsuit on our hands.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, I mean it's likely, and don't know. Maybe that's
why we're going to raise the eat able to pay
for some of these lawsuits. But it's interesting if what's
being said is true, that these are the reasons. You know,
I've been here almost twenty six years now, worked under
several different police chiefs. You know, I regularly talk to
(12:36):
retired guys that were cops in the sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties,
well before me that have complained about these same things.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah, that was like, So that was my I was like, under,
is there any police chief that is completely one percent
supported and endorsed by every single police officer? And I
think we all know, like he just said, no, never,
That's never happened.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Every So the interesting thing is, if that's the case,
and this is what they're going to try to hang
their hat on, they're expecting Chief Fiji to fix a
culture of policing that has gone on in Cincinnati or
the administration that's gone on in Cincinnati for I don't know,
let's just say sixty years. You want her to fix
that in two years? That's just come on. If that's
(13:21):
what they're hanging their hat on, then yeah, I would
suspect if they do Terminator, that they can expect to
face a rather hefty lawsuit. And I think she's probably
going to have a pretty good chance of prevailing in that.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yes, Now, the question is, and I'm not quite sure
how this all ultimately works given how weird the whole
scenario is, we have an interim police chief. Since she's
on administrative leave, is there still a possibility that she
could be brought back and placed back in the position
of the police chief.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I think it's possible, but I think it's also highly unlikely.
The damage has been done. I mean, it's how could
she go back and work for the same administration that
has done this to her? What does that look like?
I just I don't think that makes any good sense.
And I think if you asked her, she would probably
agree that at this point the damage has done. If
(14:11):
I I certainly wouldn't want to know, if I wouldn't
want to come back, and because then you're going to
be looking over your shoulder, you're going to be walking
the eggshells. Yes, that's not any way to live. It's
not any way, certainly to try to run a police
department of nearly a thousand people. I think at this point,
the best thing that the city could do is come
up with an agreement that both sides can live with,
(14:32):
and you know, let her retire and move on with life,
because you know, as bad as this has been, Like
I said, I just I don't see a scenario where
she could come back and be able to work in
these conditions.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, this is all created what will be a toxic
work environment for police Chief DGI. So I hear and
I agree completely with what you're saying. FOP President Ken Cover,
thank you for coming on the program today talk about this,
and I want to thank you on behalf of all
the CINCINNTI taxpayers for bringing this to everyone's and I'm
sure since a council members are pretty appreciative of you
for doing it as well, because at least the ones
that have talked on record are against the concept of
(15:07):
writing a check in this particular case. Ken, have a
wonderful weekend. I hope to talk to you again real
soon and keep your popcorn out and see if we
find out anything from our inside sources and council about
what happens in that closed door no note executive session Monday.
Take care of my friend.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yep, thanks for having me, Brian. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Anytime man, anytime, six twenty six check front of me.
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