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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It is a thirty here fifty five KRCD talk station.
As I adjust my zoom calls so I can see
Jack Winsor. There you are, Jack, Good morning, Jack Winsortheihia
Pressnetwork dot com. Check out what Jack follows throughout the
state of Ohio. Very well. Good reporting there from Jack Winsor.
Welcome back to my friends. Good to hear from you.
It's been a little while.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yeah, it's been a little while, man, and it's good
to be back. Thank you and Joe for being patient
with me. It's always an honor to be with you
in the fifty five kr see family.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Well, we have fun with it and primary results. Since
you report on things all over the state of Ohio,
let's just focus on the big one. A boy, he
won it by a landslide. No problem with mister Putsch
VvE ak Ramaswami seventy percent of the vote. He will
be our next governor. I'm confident of that. Your reaction
to that one are we looking for better times here
in Ohio? Noting that I read this this morning, there

(00:54):
was a report out about the gains that the Red
States have made two plus trills for all the low regulation,
low tax states like Florida and Texas, and a loss
of two trillion dollars from states like California, New York.
You know the usual suspects on that. Sadly, we were
not among the winning states at voted for Trump. Ohio
lost one hundred and six billion in people moving. So

(01:17):
if that figure is correct, and I have no reason
to argue about it since they got the information from
the IRS, does vv Ramaswami represent a better path? I
think I know the answer to that question, or at
least I'm optimistic Jack.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
So first of all, yes, I think so, and there
are a lot of factors at play here. Though obviously
the cook partisan voting in DEXs as Ohio are plus
five and that's meaningful for Vake and Republicans. But we
have to be real smart. It is a midterm election
and the environment is difficult. So for listeners across Ohio

(01:53):
who are kind of fed up with the radical lefts
direction on spending, open borders, failing schools, filled with activism,
cultural overrea, you just can't sit at home. You can't
sit on your hands. And the vike Ramaswami won in
all Lady eight counties, which is important that means that
the Republicans got out. And you know, the Democrat nominee,
doctor Amy Acton, is kind of a double edged sword here, right.

(02:14):
She has tremendous name recognition because of her work as
the Ohio Department of Health director during COVID, and because
she was the Ohio Department of Health director during COVID,
that may slice negatively for her too, So of course
they're going to have to be very careful with how
they market and brand her. But right now, I think
all things being equal, the VIC represents a clear and

(02:37):
distinguished path, right, and that's what voters are going to
have to decide on. Even the case he puts supporters.
Once they're done crying over the spilled milk, they're going
to have to go, Okay, do I want to full on,
heavy handed, top down socialist or do I want the
vike Ramaswami. And at the end of the day, that's
really what it's about.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Well, you know that it goes exactly to the point
I've been making about this concern over you know, the Democrats,
you know, win in Congress, and because of the current
situation with the war in Iran and the gas price
is going through the roof, and I just it strikes
me as so counterintuitive. Okay, I'm not happy about paying
five or six, as the case may be with premium gasoline.
I'm willing to live through this what will be some

(03:18):
sort of finite moment in time the gas prices will
ultimately come down. But that wouldn't cause me the high
gas prices to want to vote against my best interests
on literally everything else that the Democrats stand for. So
I won't be a Democrat vote if I'm angry. But
it's the problem is it may cause me to just
simply not go vote. And I think that's the biggest

(03:39):
challenge for Republicans. They got to put it behind him
and get out and overwhelm the Democrats who will certainly
be fired up over that and drive into the polls
over that. And that couple with Trump arrangement syndrome, They've
got a lot going for them just by really campaigning
on nothing.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
You know, that's exactly right, And I think Democrats are saying, hey,
just don't vote for that team. And what it's going
to come down to is once people go, Okay, you
don't want me to vote for that team. But let's
look at this team. I'm going to go back to
what John Fetterman said a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Who's the leader of the.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Democratic Party Trump arrangement syndrome, and so is that enough
to get them over the finish line? Now, real clear
polling has Ramaswami plus one right now on average. Now
we expect more polls to come out very soon because
there's fresh data from the midterms.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
But look at the Calshi market. It has acting up
I think.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Fifty five to forty six. So all indicators are that
this will be a tight contest. It's going to come
down to the economy, gas and grocery prices, and then
turn out dynamics and then what are the head wins nationally?
Right now, Trump is underwater and he's carried Ohio most
recently by eleven plus points. When you add in the
R plus five, that seems favorable. But if groceries are high,

(04:49):
if gas is high, if people are disgruntled with Iran,
then I think it makes it a more competitive race.
But really it comes down to again candidate contrast, who
is Amy acting? Who who is Vivike Ramaswami And Ramaswami
is somebody who's made some bold promises about the future
of state government, about spending, and about innovation. And if

(05:10):
voters buy that, I think he wins by five. I'm
going to give you that prediction out of the gate.
If not, it could be we could be looking at
Governor Amy Acton.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Amy Lockdown Acted. What is she advocating for? What's her
party platform other than you know, she's not Vegue Ramaswamy,
Man of color.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, so here's the interesting part, right, and we'll have
this quick discussion. She's campaigning on affordability. And anyone who
peels the curtain back and looks you go, well, wait
a minute. Democrats systemically have created this affordability crisis.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
So how are you going to solve that problem? And oh,
by the.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Way, you made sixty two cents in interest income last year,
So maybe the issue with affordability for you, Amy Acton,
isn't affordability. Maybe it's that you don't make enough money, right,
And Vivike Ramaswami is out here creating multimillion and billion
dollar businesses, and I think that is a very cheeky
way to say it, but it is a very stark contrast.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
But affordability is one.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Issue, and so you go, Okay, it sounds good, but
do you have the competence to change that? I think
people will question that. And then the other way that
she's positioning herself. Brian is a doctor and not a politician.
And you go, well, a good, Okay, that sounds good
on paper, but why are you walking arm in arm
with Mark Elias and the Elias Slag Group out of Washington,
d C. Which is Hillary Clinton's twenty sixteen campaign attorney.

(06:25):
So you talk about not being an insider, yet you've
selected as your law firm the most inside DC Democrat
law firm there is. So there's not alignment there between
what she's saying and what she's actually doing.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
All right, we'll pause. We'll bring Jack Winsor from the
Islepetpressnetwork dot com back. We'll talk about Attorney General Yos
dropping his current position and moving on to an outside
law firm to do some political advocacy. His reaction to
that coming.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Up the talk station.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
It is eight fifty one If if you have KCD
talk station Ron Thomas with Jack wins from Theisle Preussnetwork
dot com. Check out what's going on his website every
single day and tune in on a Fridays when he
joins us to talk about these issues. Pivoting over, We've
got David Yose stepping down from his position and joining
a new organization, or actually not a new organization. It's

(07:16):
the Alliance Defending Freedom. It's a just conservative organization, kind
of a nonprofit law firm that helps it helps out
and advocates for conservative principles.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Is there anything we need to read?

Speaker 1 (07:25):
I mean, I guess I don't have a problem with
him going on to probably a more lucrative career position.
He's going to be doing some legal work for that group.
It's in line with his political philosophy the work they do,
so I guess it makes sense along those lines. But
is there something we need to read into this regarding
the timing? What do you think there, Jack winsor.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
There are no coincidences in politics, sir, And that's number one.
But I'm going to go back to two things can
be true. Right, So, after more than two decades serving
Ohio taxpayers in elected office, Davios, I think is making
a move that makes perfect sense and a personal level.
So he's going to step into that senior role at
an organization that's been extraordinarily effective at winning major constitutional

(08:07):
battles in the nation's highest court, and that kind of
experience for him going into that kind of experience and
the kind of experience that they're getting with Dave Yost,
I think is a really good fit. And he's just
going to make more money good for Dave Yost at
the same time, and this is where politics gets interesting.
The timing creates a clean succession path, right, So Governor

(08:27):
Dwine now is forced to appoint someone to fill that
AG's position.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
And here's the interesting twist.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
He can now appoint the very candidates Republicans just nominated
on Tuesday into the open state wide offices. Faber could
move from auditor to ag Larrose from Secretary of State
to auditor, Sprague from Treasurer to Secretary of State, and
then Edward's into that treasurer's office. I think most politicos say, well, yes,
this helps Yost, But Yost, in a final salute, is

(08:59):
helped the Republican Party by opening that seat and allowing
that cascade of appointees.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
I must observe, Jack windsor you just rotted off a
very very familiar group of names. I know it's something
that that in and of itself will rub some of
my listening audience the wrong way. Your take on that.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
I listen, I agree, right, and I think some people go,
oh my gosh, it's musical chairs. Yeah right, But here's
what it comes down to. At the end of the day,
you have some choices to make, and for ag do
you want Keith Faber or John Coolewicks? Do you want
Robert Sprague or Alison Russo as Secretary of State? And

(09:37):
so I think Republicans are doing things strategically that Democrats
would do without a blink, right, They're doing the thing
that will give them a slight edge, because, let's face it,
when somebody is an incumbent and they can run for
a position from an incumbency, I think that gives them
a slight edge. Might not be big, but it's a
little bit of something. And I think Republicans are trying
to take every advantage here they can get. I know

(09:59):
that that rubs some really strict constitutionalists in people who
are just you know, very conservative at the core.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
I know that rubs them the wrong way.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
And you know, sometimes you gotta what did they say
in that movie what Tom Cruise say, Rubbing is racing
sometimes you gotta rub Man.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
I understand that, I get all the political points and
the realities and the strategy behind it, but you know what,
there's got to be some backbenchers, some names back there
that may ring a little familiar, but be good next
generation people who will then take over the role of
getting elected elected, elected, elected over and over again and
play musical chairs. Somebody's got to take over and take
the mantle from the current cast of characters we just

(10:35):
left putting. By appointment, you give that person with less
name recognition, of course, an opportunity to build their name
recognition and to demonstrate that they're the competent right person
for the job, satisfying everyone.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Perhaps, you know what, I can't argue with that strategy,
because the other candidates that we just mentioned, if there
is not this cascade of appointments, they've built their brand right,
they have name recognition, they've wanted state wide office. And
so what you're saying is let them win that office
on their merits, Let's bring in the new blood, let's
let the young team kind of come in and establish themselves.

(11:09):
And I think when you're looking long term, that probably
makes the best sense. But you and I both know
politics is what what have you done for me lately?
And what do we need to do in the next
six months? And I think that's probably what we're going
to see.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Fair enough, let's hold you over a little bit longer
in this segment, then we'll let you go. Jack Windsor,
I had a question for you on the reaction about
Governor Mike Brown in Indiana rolling back the gas and
sales tax that result in a fifty nine point three
cent drop in price for over and for folks over
in Indiana. Governor Bisher also froze state's gas tax and
it's going to result in a I don't know, twenty

(11:43):
six twenty seven percent reduction. And both of them pointed out, well,
we both have a lot of revenue coming in, and
we have a lot of money in our general fund,
you know, the rainy day funds, billions and billions of dollars,
and we have that here in Ohio, and you, Governor
de Wine said no, I'm not going to do it.
I care too much about the roads. Do you think

(12:03):
that's a good strategy to roll back to tax just
on its face? And what do you say about Governor
de Wine is saying absolutely no to it.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
I say about Governor Dwaine saying absolutely no to it,
that does not surprise me. He is a Democrat in
Republican clothing. He loves big government programs, he loves to
go hand out checks. He likes to be the benevolent
grampa who thinks he's fixing everything. So that's no surprise
to me. I think it comes down to is it
a good decision. Well, Ohio is such a complex state.
You know this, So I'm not going to get too
much in the weeds on this because of the way

(12:32):
that taxing authorities exist. You know, the gas tax is
collected and then it's distributed, and you know it does
help with roads and so on and so forth. I'm
just not convinced that a three month pause is going
to throw a massive monkey wrench into that. And I
look at it and say, why wouldn't you, even if
for window dressing, right, why wouldn't you for the next

(12:54):
three months suspend this thing, appease members of your party
who are trying to help voters who are screaming do something.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
But that's not Mike Dwine.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Mike Dwine is always the smartest guy in the room,
and he's going to go his way, and if you
don't like it, he'll yell at you behind closed doors.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
I had someone asked me the day on the issue
of taxes, pivoting over briefly here to property taxes, Jack
Wins with the ballot petition circulating to amend the Constitution
of the State of Ohio to eliminate property tax. You know,
are you in favor against that? Brian and said half
of me. I'm in favor of it, just because of
the train wreck that will follow up and the how
much it is going to force our elected officials to

(13:31):
actually do something in the aftermath of being taken having
the property tax taken away from them.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
You know.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
The correlator to that is I know all those problems
and they are going to be concerning and difficult to overcome.
But I don't have a problem paying my tax bills,
so I can afford to sort of play, you know,
maybe the impish guy who wants to see a train
wreck just to see what happens. Jack, what do you think?

Speaker 2 (13:54):
You know what the first thought that comes to my
mind is necessity is the mother of invention. When you
move the cheese and they no longer have cheese, They're
gonna find their cheese. That's just that's the bottom line. Now,
everybody loves change, they hate transition. The transition's gonna suck.
I mean, there are over four thousand taxing authorities, so
they're gonna have to figure out how to find their cheese.
But at the end of the day, I'm going to

(14:14):
go back to this. Do you remember what happened during COVID, Yes,
Governor and Amy Acton looked at you and said, tough, tough, titty.
You don't like it, we're gonna close your business.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Figure it out.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Well, Governor, I want unemployment, but the system's broken. It's
been six months since I've been paid. Tough, Okay, well
it's turnabout's fair play, right. I don't have a hard
time looking at folks and going, oh, you don't have
the money, tough, figure it out.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
That's why you were elected. I know that's a little
bit probably.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Cheeky, but again, at the end of the day, it's
not their money, it's our money. It's not their power,
it's our power. And at some point we have to
stand up and go Okay, enough is enough. And if
you can't figure it out out, let's get somebody in
that office who can figure it out, because that's why
you're elected.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Jack.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Wins are always a fun conversation with you, and of
course they're report over at the Iilepressnetwork dot COM's excellent.
I check on it all the time and appreciate what
you're doing there. We'll talk again real soon, Jack, and
have a wonderful Mother's Day, weekend, and a wonderful week generally, speaking.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
To my friend YouTube brother, God bless you, thank you
so and

Speaker 1 (15:13):
You sir A forty nine Right now fifty five KRC
the talk station, A little bit left, stick around fifty
five

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