Gary Jeff Walker in Brian Thomas 6/12/2026

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Night.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Oh I'm a lone.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
Skim.

Speaker 5 (00:27):
Yeah you need to.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
You turn bad ram.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Oh yeah, bull slipt ride from my.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
To our own ship.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
Change.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
It is June twelfth, twenty six, also the forty ninth
birthday of Kenny Wayne Shepherd. He came out thirty years ago.
He was a basically a teen prodigy as a blues guitarist.
Today well established as one of the great names in

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the business. Happy birthday. Before we look at and look
back at significant events and people tied to this particular
date in history, including but not limited to these Garry
Jeffan for Brian this morning. On this date. In nineteen
thirty nine, the Baseball Hall of Fame dedicated in Cooper'stown,
New York. More on that, that's a pretty amazing story

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of marketing little sleepy Cooperstown and the reason are the
reasons that were given for putting the Baseball Hall of
Fame in Cooperstown. Nineteen forty two German born Jewish girl

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living in Amsterdam received a diary for her thirteenth birthday,
less than a month before she and her family went
into hiding from the Nazis. Her name was Anne Frank
got her diary on this day, the diary that became
famous for telling the story of the hiding and eventually

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the capture and death of that young German born girl.
This date, in nineteen sixty three, Medgar Evers, who was
a civil rights leader, shot and killed outside his home
in Jackson, Mississippi nineteen ninety four. All those years later
Byron D le Beckwyth convicted of murdering him and sentenced

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to life in prison, where Beckwith died in two thousand
and one. A year later on this date, in nineteen
sixty four, eight South African anti apartheide activists, including Nelson Mandela,
sentenced to life in prison for committing acts of sabotage
against South Africa's government at the time. Three years later,

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Supreme Court ruling Loving versus Virginia unanimously striking down a
state law prohibiting interracial marriage, ruling that such laws violated
the fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution. David Burkkowitz, the man
behind the Son of Sam murders this date in nineteen

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seventy eight, sentenced to twenty five years to life in
prison for each of the six killings. He was charged
and convicted of over two years Ronald Reagan with one
of the crowning moments public moments of his incredible presidency.

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On this date in nineteen eighty seven, he was visiting Berlin.
It's where he made the plea to tear down this wall,
mister Gorbachev. This date in nineteen eighty seven, four years later,
the Russians went to the polls for their first ever

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presidential election, which resulted in victory for Boris Yeltsen.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
And this.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Is there's a date that it started the ball rolling
on a story that just wouldn't end for all of
us who lived through it. And just as observers talk
about capturing our attention as a nation like no news

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story had in quite a while or since, this is
the day in nineteen ninety four that Nicole Brown Simpson
and Ronald Goldman were found dead outside her home in
La It began the whole tale of the Slow White

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Bronco and the trial that no one could take their
eyes off of. As we watched oj Simpson on trial
for his life, Johnny Cochrane playing the race card, and
a jury ultimately acquitting the Jews of a murder that

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many of us were sure he committed I'm still pretty
sure you. But no, if it doesn't fit, you must acquit.
Twenty eighteen, President Trump, in his first term, met Kim
Jong un in Singapore, the first time a sitting US

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president had met with a North Korean leader. They met
again a couple times in twenty nineteen. It was one
year ago today. Tragedy strikes. An Air India plane bound
for London crashed in amamad Bad a medda bad. Excuse me,
added another syllable shortly after takeoff, killing two hundred and

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forty one on the plane, nineteen on the ground. One
passenger who was thrown from the plane actually survived the
ordeal completely And flashback ten years on June twelfth, the
Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando, Florida, leaving forty nine dead

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fifty three wounded in what was then the deadliest mass
shooting in US history. Omar Matin, the guy responsible, pledged
allegiance to the Islamic State group during a three hour
standoff before being killed in a shootout with cops. I
can't see how these leftists identify with Islamists and also

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identify with LGBTQ whatever groups, because the two are not
congruent at all. Let's see actress Sonya Manzano is seventy six.
Timothy Busfield seen him on TV and as a director
for years sixty nine. He's in some trouble lately. To

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revisit the Timothy Busfield story at some point. Gwen Torrens
a great Olympic track gold medalist turned sixty one. Finesse
Mitchell comedian fifty four. Jason Mues mentioned Kenny Wade Shepard
singer songwriter Robin spelled with a y. I don't know

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who that is, but it's her birthday forty seven. Chris
Young and Ashley Cook both on the birthday list. If
it is your birthday on this June twelfth, I trust
and I pray that it is the best birthday ever
that you get to spend it with the people you love,
doing the things you absolutely love to do. And that's
truly my wish for you. Well, driving up seventy one

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this morning, that was a treat standing water hydroplaning without
an airboat. I don't recommend it, but if you have
to get up and go this morning, be very very
careful and we'll try and get you through the rain.
Should taper off of the forecast in just a moment.

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The rain should taper off before the heart of rush hour.
This morning again, Gary Jeffin for Brian Thomas, will take
a quick break and come back. It's five fourteen and
you're tuned into fifty five KRC the talk station five seventeen.
Gary Jeffin for Brian Thomas. I know we've heard this before,
but there may be a deal for peace with Iran.

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The President seems pretty confident and a lot of people
are saying it just feels different this time. We'll see
after after all this time, after eight weeks of ceasefire
supposing and since the operations began way back when, there

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have been numerous glimpses of hope, and the Iranians snuff
it out at the last minute because the deal's not
good enough for President Trump and they won't agree to
rid themselves of nuclear weapons and get rid of the

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enriched uranium and let us see it destroyed and inspections
and opening the straight of horror moves. The United States
has proven in the last couple of weeks, Iran is
not blocking the Strait of horror moves. They're doing all
kinds of saber rattling, and they're like gnats at your

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picnic table, basically, because they just don't have capabilities to
truly block the Strait of horror moves. The United States
has been ushering out tankers, not Iranian tankers and oil,
but they've been ushering them out, we found out yesterday
through President Trump at the White House for the last

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couple of weeks in the dead and night, because Iran
doesn't have the radar and the ability to detect or
track them. As we've been moving millions of gallons of
oil out of the Strait and into the market worldwide.
Now not to the levels of before the war, mind you,

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but the oil has been moving quietly undercover and with
the aid of our fantastic military. So that's good. But
will the Iranians really come to the table. Has this
latest flurry of attacks and challenges to their infrastructure been

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enough to push these radical men admin ideological death cultists
to the brink of saying uncle could happen this weekend?
According to the President, we'll see like to believe that

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we can get out of this and get what we
want out of this and make the Middle East and
the world a lot safer place. Without the loss of
the major loss of human life. We have lost thirteen
servicemen so far since this operation began, and that's thirteen
too many. But considering the amount of kinetic damage we

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have been able to do to the enemy, the numbers
could be much worse. Let's put it that way, and
you've got to give all the credit to Pete Hagseeth,
our Department of War, and the men and women of
our armed forces who absolutely have clocked the enemy at

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every turn. It'd be nice to see a peace deal.
Let's the Bible say about the end times and men
will cry piece piece, but there will be no peace.
I think about that a lot closer to home. What's
with the break ins of cars on Mount Adams. I

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just heard about this this this morning, And like Mount Adams,
I haven't heard of anything about Mount Adams since our
studios were on Mount Adams, and that was pre two
thousand and four. But apparently vandalism, crime spree, theft, vandalism

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on Mount atoms of automobiles. I guess one less reason
to go. No. Mount Adams used to be a buzzing
hub of nightlife and activity, and just because there's no
parking it's kind of hard to get there. They are

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building that connector to downtown will to make it a
little bit more accessible. It was almost a very quaint,
cute kind of place, kind of almost a hippie hangout.
You know, that whole area, most of Mount Adams used

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to be a vineyard and long before we were here,
but you know, in the eighteenth century, in the nineteenth century,
it was a massive vineyard up there. And I have
a certain connection to knowing that because my wife is

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related to the Longworths which owned Mount Adams. Basically, I
ask her all the time where the money is. She says, Aunt,
Kate's got it. Good luck for us. Huh, But yeah,
break ins on Mount Adams in the cars. And this

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group has done a study elsewhere. This group has done
a study of Cincinnati police pulling over black people, young
black people, and I haven't even seen it yet. I
know that they did a fifteen year study and they'd

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never talked to the police, So I don't know how
valid their study is. But I think Iris Rowley's involved,
And when Iris Rolly's involved, that kind of tells you
everything you need to know. Who's in the mayor's ear

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well coming up on five point twenty five on this
Friday morning, and I'll give you a rundown of what
we got planned for later on. Got some good guests
coming your way. Gary Jeff Walker in for Brian Thomas,
Happy Friday, fifty five KRC the talk station and our
first phone call of the morning. What a grand thing.

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Before we get to that, Tom, your patience please. At
six point thirty this morning, our regular Friday Tech talk
with Dave Hatter, Dangerous Dave Doomsday, Dave the cyber Guru.
Eight o'clock we have a guy named Michael Pack. More

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details on him and Johanna Newman will be with us
at eight thirty again updates on exactly who they are
and definitely want to hear what they have to say.
I bet you right now. Tom at five three seven
fifty five hundred on the left and Radical Islam, Tom,
Good morning, How are you today?

Speaker 3 (17:22):
Oh? I'm not doing too bad? How are you?

Speaker 6 (17:25):
You know?

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Uh? It's been a rough week because I I uh,
and this is just gonna come off like whining now.
But yesterday filling in for Brian yesterday and got home
and immediately turned around and went to work at a
bar because that's the other job than I have. I'm

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a bartender. And then at five point thirty did the
quick change into a suit and mceed the grand opening
of Italian Fest in Newport last night, and then the
quick turnaround to get up this morning. So I'm a
little I'm dragging a little time.

Speaker 6 (18:05):
To be honest with you, well, I'm we I guess
we'll all take a moment and feel sorry for you.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
No, it's not gonna help, it's not gonna help at all.
But but anyway, Yeah, I'm just just just a little
droopy this morning. I'll get it going. Uh right off, Well,
so what's up.

Speaker 6 (18:23):
Well, we appreciate the hard work and effort you You
brought up the studios in Mount Adams. Yeah, reminding me
one of my one of my favorite times I was
up there working. I worked on the studios. I actually
was putting a ceiling in. This is in the nineties
and at the time would have been the new studio

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in the same building. And I remember as I'm working
in there, Gary Burbank and uh Nurse Birds walk in
checking the place out, and they actually invited me. I
sat in on Sports or Consequences.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Nice.

Speaker 6 (18:57):
Uh yeah, So I would say that would be the
official start of my radio career.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
Some like that.

Speaker 6 (19:05):
But yeah, that was that was really cool. That that's
uh yeah, that's a kind of a highlight. This this
Islam thing you brought up. You don't maybe don't understand
how these people aligned that don't seem like to have
much in common and what what they have with what
the left has and what the Radical Islam has is

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they have a common enemy. And that common enemy is
what we refer to as God, the Christian God, the
Jewish God, that is, that is their enemy. They don't want,
they don't want anything to do with that God. They
have their gods, they have the you know whatever, whether
it's Allah or whether it's no God at all, anything,

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but what you know, we look to as God, as
Christians or or in the West, you know, uh, that
that's their enemy. So they have a common enemy that
you if you look at everything that they stand for
and everything they oppose usually has something related to God.
I mean, Islam is based in the Radical Islam is

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based on religion and their religious beliefs and and what
they stand for has everything to do with the God
they worship and the God there against.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
I think You're making an excellent point, Tom, in that
I believe it is all Satanic, it's all Luciferian. Oh,
because of my beliefs, I have to think that if
you're opposed to God, the One True God, and everything that,

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all the good that that God brings to the world.
I mean, we're fighting a spiritual battle is being fought
right now that you and I can't even see it's
going It's going on in the heavens and it's going
on here. And Lucifer is in his death throes. He
knows it, and he's going to go out kicking and screaming,

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and those that follow him will will face the same
ultimate fate. The good part is I know who wins
in the end, well.

Speaker 6 (21:13):
Right, we know we know what the end of the
book says. Correct, Yes, so that's good part. But he's
going to try to take as many people with him
as he can, oh, certainly, and that that's that's his
that's really what it's all the behind whatever he does
and try to fool and deceive people. And so when
you have all these you have all these people, especially
in this country, the left, who come out with this

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crazy garbage and they just try to appeal to your
feelings to get you to go along with what they're saying.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Everything everything, Tom, everything from drag Queen story hour right
to to you know, uh at will abortions, all of it.
All of it is satanic. All of it is uh
is secular humanism to the integrae, which does become satanic.

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You can't say that. I mean, Lucifer knows there's a God,
he absolutely, but he opposes him at every because he
thinks he is he's equal. So this is the problem.
They think that they're their God and their belief system
is equal to the true God and Christianity and and Judaism,

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and they're sorely mistaken. But we're watching it all play out,
and uh, there's a lot of collateral damage.

Speaker 6 (22:33):
You're right, right, right, Yeah, so uh and so the
moral of the story is, don't fall for all the
all the garbage and adult vote Democrat. Have a great weekend.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah, hey you two. Now. I I was having this
conversation with the buddy of mine, you know, and the
other day, and the conversation basically was, sometimes you have
to tune out the noise because the noise is there
for nois sake, not for any real purpose. And this

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is talk radio, and people listen to talk radio and
get really fired up, But is it really to your
advantage to get really fired up and to get bombarded
with all the craziness all the time, And this having
to know everything that's going on instantly in a world

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driven by social media, an instant gratification. Every once in
a while, you just got to tune out and not
fall into or go down the rabbit hole yourself into
that nutzoid landscape that is the world around us that

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we see and we hear about. Makes sense, I don't know,
maybe five point thirty five fifty five KRCV talk station. Yeah,
do be careful out there. I drove through some standing
water a couple of places on seventy one, and as

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you're there seventy five with some issues at overturn tractor
trailer but slip sliding away. And I wasn't in an airboat,
and I wasn't in the Everglades. I was on the interstate.
So there's some pretty good little pockets out there. I
mentioned at the top of the show that today, among
other things, as far as history goes, is the anniversary

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of the opening of the baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown,
New York, and they did it basically. Of course, the
Cincinnati Reds the first professional team eighteen sixty nine, but

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baseball actually invented in eighteen thirty nine. So in nineteen
thirty nine they opened this place the little town of
Cooperstown to honor the sports Centennial preserve its history. The
founding was originally tied to the myth that Abner Doubleday,

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who was a Civil War hero, invented baseball in Cooperstown.
It's not true. I mean for years I heard Abner
Doubleday baseball, he invented the game. Not so. The story

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basically was a marketing tool by Albert Spaulding, who sold
sporting goods, claimed Abner invented baseball in eighteen thirty nine.
This has been debunked many times down through the years
and even double days. I didn't have anything to do

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with that. He died in eighteen ninety three, but it
was a marketing tool to establish the museum in Cooperstown.
Why Cooperstown. Nineteen thirty nine, Stephen Carlton Clark, who was
heir to the Singer's sewing machine fortune, establishes this. He

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sought to bring tourists. Let's rev up the economy here
in Cooperstown. In the aftermath of the Great Depression and Prohibition,
things were getting back on track in America, and this
was a way that Stephen Carlton Clark thought he could

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help revitalize his little town. The Baseball Writers' Association of
America held its first election in nineteen thirty six, so
actually three years before there was a Hall of Fame building.
Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth, Honus Wagner, Christy Mathewson, Walter Johnson,
the first five inducted. I have never been. I have

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heard marvelous things about Cooperstown. And Paul Doctory Doherty a
few years back wrote an extensive piece on Cooperstown and
making the trek there, and it became kind of an
annual thing, a familial thing for Paul, and I guess

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his son and his dad had gone with him before.
But anyway, and talked about it's not an easy thing
to get to Cooperstown. Apparently it's not off a major interstate,
or it wasn't at the time he was writing this,
And uh so you got to actually want it, you

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really want to go there. You have to want to
go there, uh to make it through. But I you know,
and I'm not the biggest baseball fan of the world,
but I got to tell you that's a place I'd
like to see. I've never been to the Pro Football
Hall of Fame in Canton either or the Basketball Hall

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of Fame. But uh, Cooper'stown, New York. What about that
for a summertime destination if you've never been, I've never been.
Maybe a brianl lend me his, uh one of his
luxury sedan's and give me some gas money for filling
in for him, and I'll go to Cooperstown with my wife.

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Coming up on five point forty five on a Friday morning.
I'm just I'm dithering. I'm talking and you can join
in if you'd like. Five one three seven fifty five
hundred Gary Jeff Walker in for Brian Thomas tgif fifty
five KRC the talk station again, be careful five one
three seven fifty five hundred number to get in touch.

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I think Gary Jeff in for Brian Thomas this morning.
And uh, the talk about Cooperstown and baseball brought to
mind some other stories from you. Let's talk to Tracy
and roseland Roselawn, excuse me, Tracy, how are you doing.

Speaker 7 (29:38):
I'm doing good, Gary, Jeff.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
I love when you're on the radio.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Man, Thanks, thanks.

Speaker 7 (29:43):
I just went for some coffee, but I had to.
My dad was a sportscaster for WCIN.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Oh wow, man.

Speaker 8 (29:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (29:52):
In October of seventy two, Jackie Robinson threw out the
first baseball or you know the pitch, you know, for
the Red home game and they were playing the Oakland
A's and I said to my dad, I said, please

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get me Via the Blues autograph. And this is before
they really anyway, my dad got via Blues autograph onto
his press pass, and then he ran into Jackie Robinson,
who was suffering from glacoma, and he asked, mister Robinson,

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can I get a few comments from you? He said certainly,
and he did, and then he said it'd be an
honor if you would sign my press pass. Well, he
signed it, but he signed it right over via Blues,
liking it that like in an next you know.

Speaker 6 (30:54):
So, uh.

Speaker 7 (30:55):
The Cincinnati Herald, the black newspaper, found out about all this,
and somehow Cooperstown found out about it, and they wanted
to take and my dad said well do you do
you do you want to give the press pass to

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the Cooperstown And you know, I'm only, like, you know,
thirteen fourteen years oldest, right, I said, yeah, I mean,
what a ding dong. If I had that, it would
be priceless. But anyway, my dad, it's in the Hall

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of Fame. And you know, if you ever seen Raiders
of the Lost Arc, you know that big you know
warehouse where they got think stored, that's where it is.
I mean, it's not on display.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
So your dad's press pass, signed by Vita Blue and
Jackie Robinson is in the Baseball Hall of Fame.

Speaker 7 (32:00):
They have control of it. It's not exhibited, and and
and they have the tape. And I believe I have
a copy of the tape because my dad passed a
couple of years ago, and I got all these radio
shows and all these tapes.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
What was what was your dad's name? Tracy Bill Meredith?
And he worked for w c I N.

Speaker 7 (32:28):
He worked for w c I N, and he was
the first broadcaster for x U basketball. How about d Yeah,
he got Joe Sunderman. He said, Joe because they went
we went to the same parish. And he said, Joe
why don't you come on? Ci N couldn't pay for

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a color man, And so my dad would ask a
guest to come on. And he said to Joe, will
you come on and sit on sit in with me?
Because he played for XU, you know right, And he
said he's mister Meredith. I won't know what to do.
And my dad said, well, when I tap my finger

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on the desk, I want you to talk. And then
when I tap my finger on the thing, you know
you can kind of cut it, begin to cut it off,
and needles to say, Joe Sunderman's still there thirty something years.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah, no doubt. That's a great story.

Speaker 7 (33:31):
Yeah, but uh, I love it when you're on the radio.
You do such a good job.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Well you think, thank you. I flattery will get you everywhere.
I appreciate that.

Speaker 9 (33:41):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 7 (33:42):
Okay, buddy, Oh you have a great.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Day, Tracy, thanks for spitting a few. That's it, buddy,
that's that's That's a great story to be next to,
to have access to Jackie Robinson of all people, and
to have something that the Baseball Hall of Fame wants

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in their possession. Neat story. All right, Uh, we're going
to take a break and come back after six o'clock
and hopefully have this thing figured out by then. It's
a five point fifty five at fifty five KRC detak
station as we get into this hour, an examination of

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a four syllable word that has reared its ugly head
once again in Congress. Summer Lee, a Democrat from Pennsylvania
House of Representative, introduced Yes Slavery reparations resolutions last month.

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And she said, as she offered this resolution to pay
descendants of fourteen trillion dollars of someone else's money, that
black voters will abandon voting. They'll tap out of the

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system unless they don't get paid. This was an interview
this past Sunday. Black Americans would stop voting if they
aren't given reparations. And of course she took time to
slam the president. They all do. She slammed President Donald

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Trump's Anti Weaponization Fund, you know the fund that pays
people who were wronged for political reasons by the Biden Whitehouse.
The thing is about the Anti Weaponization Fund. This is

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what makes it different than reparations. Summer she doesn't quite
get it. Those people are still alive, the ones who
were wronged. Those people had their lives completely upturned and
overturned because the Biden administration and his Department of Justice

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went after people for political reasons, not because they committed crimes.
In many cases, you know, find me the man, oh,
I'll find you the crime kind of thing said. They're
playing psychological warfare with us, and that's what they do.

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Because again, I love to hear these democrats talk. You
talk about Kamalo's famous word salads and the like aoc.
She's brilliant at being an idiot. It's very very eloquent.
She has no idea what she's saying, and neither do I,

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but she just sounds so articulate. Anyway, back to summer leave,
because again they're trying to disenfranchise you, because if you
believe that you're never going to get reparations from this system,
then you tap out. And you don't just tap out
of the conversation. You tap out of the system. You
don't want to vote anymore, you don't participate anymore. A

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lot of people don't vote. I was talking about that
yesterday morning, and it drives me nuts. But they're not
voting because they're not getting money from the government, are they.
So again, the Anti Weaponization fund the Donald Trump wants

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the President Trump wants different than reparations, because with reparations,
people but that never owns slaves are paying people that
never were slaves. I guess it would been something to
think about in eighteen sixty five, in the immediate aftermath

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of the Civil War and the Emancipation Proclamation and slaves
officially being free men and women and children in this country.
That would have been the time for reparations, not one
hundred and sixty years. Hence, because just because your skin

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is brown or black, you're not a victim of slavery
in twenty twenty six, Sorry, you're just not. You don't
get to claim that victimhood status. And I my family
going back four generations, never owned slaves. Why am I

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on the hook for your reparations just because my skin
pigmentation is different than yours? And black people in this
country were at one time subject to the abhorrent system

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of slavery humans owning another human. But that has no
effect on you, now, how it's important to know the history.
It's also important to do the math. And the simple
math says that I, or any other person who was

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white or non black, non his whatever, that I owe
you any money because of the color of my skin.
You know how racist that is the money doesn't they
want the government to pay reparations. Well, the money from

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the government comes from you and me, So they're asking
us to pay them reparations if in fact they are
descendants of slaves. And I will tell you people of
color in other countries who were born in other countries,

(40:49):
some of those countries being countries where slaves originally came from,
where their descendants sold other people's descendants into slavery and
brought them to America. It's a totally different world. But
we also live in an age where people think they

(41:09):
can get paid off if they can demonstrate that they're
a victim of anything. That's why there are so many
lawyer ads on TV. Nothing against lawyers, well, not much,
but this and it comes up every once in a while,

(41:32):
the reparation conversation in Congress, and she talked about cowardly
white liberals who won't support it. The former Rep. Cory
Bush who was in Missouri who lost her twenty twenty

(41:53):
four primary to a Democrat a bit more moderate. If
there are still such things, introduce the reparations Bill. Last Congress,
and this was Bush's bill called for fourteen trillion to
be put towards reparations payments for descendants of slavery in
the United States. It did not go anywhere, nor should

(42:15):
it go anywhere now, because again, and what percentage of
your bloodline is directly tied to the line of descendants
of slaves. If it's five percent, you get five percent.

(42:35):
If it's one hundred percent, you get all the money.
How does that work? Again, important to understand history, more
important to understand math and time and the time space continuum. Reparations. So,

(42:56):
if black people don't get reparations, according to Summerly, they
will not vot. Vote. Well, that's not going to help them,
will it. Yeah, vote in more idiots like her. Maybe
they'll get some more of our money because it is

(43:18):
our money, all of our money, white, black and in between.
Coming upon six fifteen and fifty five koc DE talk station,
time for break, Oh clea, listen a new ted talk.
Seven continents are drifting towards each other, and scientists warned
it's accelerating. That was the headline. You can worry about

(43:44):
that we're coming together as a planet. What could go wrong?
I just saw that story and kind of made me laugh.
You know, at one time it all was one continent.
We're just getting back to basics. Maybe what you think
about that? Huh? President Trump thinks we could have a

(44:12):
deal this weekend on ending the war in Iran without
any more military activity, no more combat, which, by the way,
a little bit of a little bit of kinetic military
activity goes a long way, doesn't it. The strikes of

(44:35):
the last three nights, well two nights up until Thursday,
is apparently what convinced the gay Ayahtola. I love it
when they call him the gay Ayahtola. What convinced the
gay Iyatola and others in the Iranian government who supposedly

(44:58):
are in charge, who knows who's in charge to come
back to the table. And the real threat is carg
Island Aroand's main oil depot. That's where they do all
their business. And they certainly don't want the US's hands

(45:24):
all over it, or President Trump's hands all over it.
They don't want us controlling their only marketable, good oil.
And so you know that I've always thought that that

(45:44):
was the bottom line. I guess military strategists say that
it's it would be very, very dangerous, risking great loss
of life on our side to actually take it over.
It's about the size of Ewojima, And anybody who knows
their history about World War II knows how bloody and

(46:08):
how difficult that was. But it had to be done
in order to defeat the Japanese. Ultimately that in a
couple of atomic bombs. But so we're at this place
now where the Iranians may feel like they've they've got

(46:29):
nothing else they can do except capitulate and agree to
Trump's terms. Now, whether they'll stick to the terms that
they signed to or not, that's another subject entirely, because
they have a little bit of a problem with the truth.
And we've known that for decades now. See, in Islam,

(46:53):
it's okay to lie to the infidel, it's okay to steal,
it's okay to kill thee if they're non Muslims, if
they're non believers in your sectarian belief then everything's off
the table and they'll do whatever they they They'll say

(47:15):
I love you and stab you in the back at
the same time. That's what they do. And the radicals
and the Shia radicals that are at the top of
the tier of control in Iran are maybe doing this again.
It wouldn't surprise me, or it wouldn't surprise President Trump.

(47:39):
But we're going to watch them and they don't get
any of their sanctions lifted, any of their funds, any
of their boats going out bumping that precious black gold
of theirs to the rest of the world so they
can start making money and have some recovery in their economy.

(48:00):
They can't do it unless they adhere to what they sign.
So I mean, the weekend will tell the tale. Maybe
maybe not. Maybe we'll be right back where we were
and they'll have to strike again militarily to convince them.

(48:22):
Mississippi James, Hello, Mississippi James.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
Hey, come in peace, love everybody. There's nothing you can
do about it. Hey, I'll just just listen to you. Earlier,
I think you was talking to Tom and you was
giving some insight on your spiritual belief. Yes, and what
you think Christ and is about. Now understand that. Now

(48:48):
are you speaking from the King James version your belief?

Speaker 1 (48:53):
The King James version? You know what I don't. I
don't read well all of the these and Thou's James.
So what I usually use as a new international version.
But the scripture, really, the interpretation of the scripture is
pretty much the same all the way around. It's just

(49:18):
for me it's easier to read something that's not uh
King James version. I understand there are there are purists
who insist on the King James, and I also know
that there are people who who who differ not with
the message of the verse, but with the presentation thereof Okay.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
And in my research, you know, I just go back
with a lot further than that. So you have to
keep going back to the to the Dead Sea scrolls.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
Well, you have to go back to the original Greek
interpretations of the scriptures.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
Yes, I know, right to eat the Opium Bible, to
the Book of the Dead. Just keep going back, trying
to piece me of it together, you know, until you
get something that resonate with you. Whether that's the truth
or not. Ay, it's accepted belief. And I understand that,
you know, I just I was just listen at you

(50:19):
and whn't the word your belief come from? You know?

Speaker 1 (50:22):
My belief is my belief is that Jesus Christ died
for my sins, died for your sins, and if you
repent of those sins and you believe, then you will
be accepted into heaven. That's my belief, Mississippy.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
James, into heaven. Okay, that's a good belief.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
I don't knock that. Well it is. It's not tradition.
It's what I believe and what I have to believe.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
I got you, I got you. We're all conditioned to
believe in doctrinated or whatever. So I wouldn't knock nobody.
I wouldn't. I wouldn't disagree with nobody what they believe.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
No, no, I'm not. I'm just telling you what I believe.
You asked me.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
Okay, But then that's a belief. We don't know whether
that's the truth or not, but it's a belief.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
Faith Faith is the belief or the knowing of something
that you can't necessarily see, James, And in this in
this earth, we see as the Bible says, we see
us through a glass dimly. We see us through a
glass dimly with our eyes in this earth. In other words,

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there are plenty of things going on that will be
made clear to us in the next life.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
So our art clear.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
To are our understanding of spiritual things is very limited.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
I don't think so. I think we have a lot
of knowledge of it.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
I didn't say I didn't say that we don't have
any knowledge. I just say the Bible says, now you
see as through a glass dimly, but the Father will
open your eyes.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
I think it has been open. If a person want
to stay in that box, they that' stay comfort level.
But it has been open. It has been seen. But
if you choose for your comfort level in that box,
I understand.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
That I'm not. I don't. I don't feel like I'm
in a box, James. I feel like I'm free, and
I have to be free of this conversation because we
have a guest standing by. It's a six twenty eight
and some change philosophical religious conversations. Isn't that nice? Fifty
five KRCV Talk Station AH six thirty two. Time to

(52:49):
do the Friday tech talk thing with the man I
like to call dooms Day. Dave actually called him the
mad Hatter at one point. Make us all of it fits,
but he's here to scare us to death with news
from the cyber world. And some looks like maybe some

(53:10):
people are coming to their senses a little bit in Europe,
which is hard to believe with the headlines we see
almost on a daily basis. Dave Hatter, good morning, how
are you.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
I'm good, Charay Jeff.

Speaker 9 (53:23):
And you know either one of those intros works doomsday,
Dave man Hatter, you know the shoe Fitz Delaware.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
It's exactly fears of You sent me this yesterday and
said we should hit this this morning. So let's go.
Let's hit the ground running with this topic, Dave. As.
A story from justinnews dot com says fears of war,
cyber attacks, id theft has Europe pondering its cashless economy

(53:51):
and a return to currency. You and I have talked,
you and I have talked dad nauseum about the digital
dollar and you know, cashless economies and stuff, and I
eschew it every opportunity I get. But go ahead and
elaborate on this particular story, Dave.

Speaker 9 (54:13):
Yeah, I think I see this as a positive sign here.
As you mentioned, you and I've discussed this many times,
and all you have to do does this look around
or just think for a second. How many times has
someone in your listening audience had a problem with a
computer and or software? How many times has the power

(54:35):
gone right? So if you're in a society that is
completely cashless, fully digital. I don't mean people don't really
use cash, because obviously cash has been dropping off for
a long time, and it there are legitimate reasons for that. Right,
you can't lose it if you don't have it on you.
It can't be stolen from you if you get mugged.

(54:55):
Businesses don't have theft if they don't have to handle it,
it gets moved around. I understand all the reasons why.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
Dave, I'm Dave. I'm a bartender. To me, cash is king.
Please continue, No, I get it.

Speaker 9 (55:09):
But the flip side of that is, I mean, you know,
I don't like the whole idea of central bank digital
currency or cash to society for many reasons. But if
you take out any sort of conspiratorial angle that someone
might say, oh that that could never happen, that's conspiracy
or whatever, well, we know the power goes out. I'm
old enough to remember when the power went out here

(55:31):
in the Greater Cincinnati region for almost at least here
in Fort White for almost a week, right after a
big wind storm. About to buy some stuff out. You
don't have to take my word for it. You can
see examples where nation state actors have knocked out power grid.
Russia did all kinds of attacks on Ukraine many years ago,
long before this current conflict, that knocked out their banking

(55:53):
system and atmm's and that sort of thing. So my
point is this, most software is not designed with security
and robustness in mind. It's designing to speed to market,
ease of use, market share, and collecting your data in mind.
We have software everywhere now. You know, it's not like

(56:14):
thirty forty years ago when you know people were still
using cash extensively. You could get cash easily as we
move to more things like PayPal, veno, et cetera. If
the power goes out for any league cyber attack, natural disaster,
h e MP attack, bad guys in a foreign country

(56:34):
decide to flip the switch and turn off the power grid,
or flip the switch at all of our so called
smart devices and turn them off. We talked about that before.
I've posted this recent article from the Army Cyber Center
at West Point warning about Chinese cyber explosures in place.
You know what are we doing about it? Meaning you know,
backdoors and all this cheap software Internet of things devices

(56:55):
we have. If the grid goes down for any length
of time, at the telecom system goes down for the time,
how are you going to get money? How are you
going to do anything? For that matter. But thankfully they
seem to be waking up to this idea in Europe.
And if I just hit a couple of points here,
now the country that led Europe's modern march towards the

(57:15):
taxes societies among those reconsidering that journey, and they're joint
concerns about cyber attacks. We just hit it conflicts, power outage,
privacy and national resilience. And that's really the point I
want to make at the end of the day. The
ability to transact in cash is about national security and resilience.
You know, forget all the other reasons why you might

(57:36):
not like this. If and when the system goes down
for whatever reason, and they just sit on a couple
of key ones there, you need to be resilient. Now,
they're going to say most transactions in these countries remain
cash if the adoption rate for cash is transactions is
leveled out, and now the government is creating a sentence
to stabilize the current level of cash usage rather than
letting it fall further. Now this is in Swede where

(57:57):
again they led this. This is a direct quotes from Eric.
I'll part pnnounce the name of Eric Seeden, the governor
of sweden Central Bank Reserve. We need to think about
resilience if everie.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Hello, Dave, Hey, Dave, Dave, Yeah, your your your signal
is completely gone. I tell you what, We're going to
take a quick break and we'll come back to this.
Dave Hatter with us on this Friday morning on fifty
five KRC the Talk State. When we were last talking

(58:30):
to Dave Hatter, we were talking about the the president
or the governor of Sweden's banking system, talking about resilience
and perhaps going back to some currency as opposed to
a cashless society, which Sweden was at the forefront of
in Europe. Dave, when we last left, when when our

(58:55):
phones left their senses, we were talking about what was
going on in Sweden's If you want to continue from
that point, this is.

Speaker 9 (59:03):
Such an important topic. Herre Jeff, you know, as I
was saying, and I don't know how much you got.
There was a great quote from Eric Steedon, the governor
of Sweden's Central Reserve Bank, who said we need to
think about. We now need to think about resilience. If
everything breaks down, we need to have cash. And that's
you know, resilience is the key thing we need to
be thinking about here. I know everyone is enabled with

(59:26):
their little babbles and shiny objects and all this technology
and so forth. But as we keep adding more and
more so called smart devices, more technology, more software into
our systems, in particular anything related to the banking system
and the ability to transact commerce, you know, we need
to move slow and do it carefully so that we
don't have a significant outleage. It brings everything down, and

(59:48):
you know, I think their perspective on its right. They
also go on to say in this article official government
guidance in quote emergency preparedness unquote brochures. Since the Swedish
households recommend citizens maintain at least one week worth at
catch available at a time of crisis, other adopting countries
are taking similar steps, it goes on to say in
the article, Increasingly policy makers and we've already talked about

(01:00:10):
Sweden and other countries that have been pushing the trend
towards a cashless digital society include Denmark, Estonia, Finland and
the Netherlands. So see this as a really positive trend.
And again I understand why businesses, why governments want digital transaction.
I understand why cash creates problems. But at the end

(01:00:33):
of the day, when systems go down, and they do
we've seen that again, power outage, unspot, natural disaster, foreign adversary.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
You have to have a way.

Speaker 9 (01:00:44):
To be able to transact with people, and the idea
that some of our system is anywhere near ready to
be fully digital and fully cashless is totally crazy in
my mind. So I'm really happy to see that some
of the people that have been leading on this foot
are starting to pull back and even act way again
in Sweden warning those citizens about this and telling them
that they should have the cash on hand. That to

(01:01:05):
me is a very positive development. Well, more people need
to talk about this, more people need to understand this.
I'll post this this particular article and a couple of
other related articles I've found on this on my social media.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
But this is a good step in the right direction.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
Gain, I agree, it's a good step in the right direction,
but it leaves me a kind of conflicted Dave, because
this is true. We both know it's true. The governor
of the banking system in Sweden knows it's true. But
it confirms that Fani Willis's father was right when he said,
a girl's got to keep some cash around the house.

Speaker 9 (01:01:40):
Isn't it weird around?

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Yes? So isn't it weird how those lines connect? And
when you're talking about resilience and redundance and having a
plan beyond the grid and the digital it's the same
thing you and I have talked about with water systems,
with our systems, with any kind of system that's reliant

(01:02:04):
more and more in the cyber world, on the cyber
world and on the grid. What if any MP happens,
What if terrorists get a hold of your the controlling
computer that's in charge of everything. You need to have
a way to do it the old fashioned way. You

(01:02:26):
have to. You need to have that redundancy, don't you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
We do.

Speaker 9 (01:02:32):
And you know, one of the reasons why I got
out of software engineering and made the shift into more
cybersecurity focus was because, as a guy who wrote a
lot of software, I know how I know that the focus,
as I mentioned before, is generally not on privacy and
security or robustness even it's typically on speed to market,
ease of use, market share, functionality, those kind of things.

(01:02:55):
And as we add software into everything. You know, one
of the one of the complaints I hear from people
fairly regularly, which I fully agree with, by the way,
is you know, now that everything is smart quote unquote
by the way, that makes it vulnerable. But now that
it's smart, right, you can't really fix things anymore. And
a lot of people, until you really start to dig
into it, don't realize there's the whole Digital Rights Management

(01:03:18):
Act out there that goes back to the late eighties
slash early nineties timeframe when Hollywood was concerned about copyright
on videotapes and BBDs and that sort of thing. And
you know, there are lawsuits out there now. I'm sure
some people have heard of some of them, Like with
John Deere. You buy an expensive tractor, you think you
own it, Well you really you really don't because you

(01:03:38):
can't really work on it. They claim they own the
intellectual property of the software that makes it work, and
you can't really can't really do anything with it, right,
And this is not unique to them. I encourage people
to go to look at the look up various lawsuits
for these sorts of things. Your modern car, it's increasingly
difficult to work on, and depending on what you can
try to do to it, you might run it up

(01:03:58):
against the Digital Management Act, where again you're now violating quote,
the intellectual property of whoever made that vehicle or anything
that has software in it. Right, And my point is
because I segued off the original plant. But my point
is all of software has flaws. Software goes down, patches
break things. Think about the crowd strike thing a few

(01:04:20):
years ago, right. Crowd striking is essentially in antivirus software
that a patch from the vendor knocked out millions of
Windows computers around the world. And as you know, Gary, Jeff,
I'm no lud eye. I'm not against this stuff. I'm
against how rapidly this is all happening, and the fact
that both the people making this stuff and our society

(01:04:41):
isn't there again, enamored with the revenue. They're enamored with
the profits, They're enamored with the wow factor, the coolest
convenience of these things. They're not thinking about what is
the long term impact on society and how resilient are
these things. So when a large number of them of
any sort go down for any reason, could be again

(01:05:02):
a cyber attacked by the Chinese Communist Party. As I
mentioned in the last segment, More and more you see
agencies like the FBI, the Army, the CIA, the NSA
warning about infiltration into the telecom network, warning about infiltration
into the telecom creator. When I filtration, I mean manipulating
the software leading back doors, doing things that would potentially

(01:05:23):
allow them to flip the switch and either change its
behavior or shut it down. Think Stuck's met virus that
happened to Iran, you know, fifteen years ago. As opposed
to your point, you know, can we still operate in
a manual way? What happens when this stuff goes down?
What happens when there's a giant sunspot? Are you familiar

(01:05:45):
with the Carrington event carriage sent ring in Velisilia?

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
No, not off off the top of my head. Tell
me real quickly.

Speaker 9 (01:05:52):
Back in the eighteen hundreds, the Carrington event, and I
may not have the exact date right, was essentially a
giant solar flare that was so strong it like set
telegraph wires on fire and knocked out the telegraph system
in a large part of the country. I mean It's
well documented. This isn't something I'm making up.

Speaker 8 (01:06:08):
No, no, I believe can you imagine what happened.

Speaker 9 (01:06:10):
If we had another one of those today, especially in
Cash's society. So again, I hate to be the doomsday guy. Gary, Jeff,
I'm just trying to trying to wake people up and
convince people we need to slow down with all of
this stuff and think about resilience. Ren Milience is our watch.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
Part of the day. Anytime you can convince someone to
use cash. I'm a big fan. Dave. Well, I have
a singular question that I wanted to ask you about AI,
and we'll do that right after this. It's fifty five KRC.
Good morning. A couple more minutes with Dave Hanner this morning,
and Dave, I wanted to ask you. I saw this

(01:06:50):
story earlier today about humanity facing AI singularity in as
little as four years. What is AI singularity? Can you
describe that for me?

Speaker 9 (01:07:05):
Well, typically when you hear people talk about the singularity,
they're talking about the point where you hit super intelligence.
I mean, people use the term in different ways.

Speaker 6 (01:07:18):
You know.

Speaker 9 (01:07:19):
Sometimes people will use it to describe like humans and
particularly the transhumanist type movement of like sort of becoming
cyborgs and merging with technology. But the more common usage
of it typically is around you hit a point where
you sort of reach super intelligence with AI. It's smarter
and more capable than you know, all of humanity, at

(01:07:40):
which point you don't really know what happens.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
There's a great.

Speaker 9 (01:07:44):
Book on this called super Intelligence by a guy named
Nick Bost. It's about as well over ten years old now,
and it talks about this sort of thing. You've got
guys like Joy curs While out there, the keyboard guy
who's talked about this a lot, and others. You know,
I'll be honest with you, Garrett, Jeff, I think there's
so much hype around this, and there's so much hype

(01:08:07):
coming out of the people making this stuff trying to
pump up the valuations. I'm not too worried about that
at the moment. You know, who knows what's in some
lab somewhere that I don't have access to. Maybe I
don't know, but I kind of doubt it. And there's
a lot of people out there. Gary Marcus would be
one people a lot smarter than me who are saying, yeah,

(01:08:29):
we'll know we're even close to something like that at
this point. So you can find all kinds of countervailing
opinions on this, and you know, people are all over it. Again,
there's so much hype and hyperbole around this, it's hard
to know what's really true. But there's a lot of
really smart people, again, way smarter than me, people working
in the industry, people that know way more about this

(01:08:50):
than me, who are saying, yeah, we're no, we're even
close to that. Because the large language models you see today,
the kind of things that most people are using, the cats,
Epps and so forth, are basically just probabilibility engine with
a lot of data. Right, They're just figured out what
word is most likely to come next. That's why they hallucinate,
you know, make things up that are completely long. And

(01:09:12):
I've seen some of these smart people say, you know,
you can't really fix that in the way these things work.
So we'll see, but I'm not I'm not convinced.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
Like the AI like the AI tool story of Dodge
Ram wanted to create an AI T shirt and it
had a picture of a Toyota tundraw on it.

Speaker 9 (01:09:32):
Yeah, And that's why you would hope, you would hope
that people would understand things like the hallucinations and that
you have to check the work. You can't assume that
anything it tells you. This is one of the reasons
why I'm concerned about augentic Ai. The idea that you're
going to let the rather than you give it a
prompt and give you a response, You're going to have
it do things automatically. Yeah, I'm concerned about that because

(01:09:55):
you can't. It's not deterministic. It's probabilistic. You can ask
the same question and ten different times you get ten
different answers. That's not how most software works. If you
enter two plus two, it gives you four every time,
because that's the way it's designed to work. It's deterministic.
But yeah, we'll see again. I think there's a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
Of hyperd more supermarketing than maybe hyper intelligence.

Speaker 9 (01:10:18):
I think I think so, Gary Jeff all.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
Right, Dave, thanks a lot, appreciate the conversation. Tech Talk
every Friday. You can follow Dave on LinkedIn and various
social media platforms and see him everywhere. We'll take a
break and come back your phone calls and more. Gary
Jeff in for Brian this morning on fifty five krs.
See the talk station six minutes past the hour. Now

(01:10:46):
on this Friday, heading into the weekend, Gary Jeffin for Brian,
just got a text from Ron Wilson. I'm miss seeing
that guy around. Of course, was in the garden on
fifty five KRC for decades on Saturday mornings, right down

(01:11:08):
the hall for me doing my show on the other station,
and it was it was when Ron would say, go
out of town to Columbus to do the gardening show
from those studios, or was on a remote. It just
wasn't the same around here, and I guess it'll never

(01:11:29):
be the same. And the new guy who's doing the
show is a perfectly nice guy. He's fine, but he's
not Ron. But he texted, keep up the great work.
I wonder what he's listening to. We're allays counting on
you and Hi missus R two D two Walker. I
call my wife Chris to two point zero because it's

(01:11:51):
the second time we've gotten together, second marriage, so I
call her, but Ron always refers to ors R two
D two Ron. It's good to know you're still out there.
I love you, I miss you, and we have to
get together soon, like we talked about. Okay, let's make

(01:12:11):
sure that happens switching gears seven o eight. You know
you or I here in Cincinnati or Northern Kentucky didn't
have the opportunity to vote for Karen Bass or Spencer
Pratt or the Ramen Noodle Chick for the mayors race

(01:12:35):
in LA. We don't live in La, although under California
voting laws, it's possible you could be living here and
have voted in the LA mayors race. Considering that California,
and we've all heard it's totally legal. It's the law
to cheat. If you were ever registered to vote in

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California and you moved, you still get ballots sent to
your mailbox apparently, even though you've been gone for six
or eight months. To register to vote in California, all
you need is a debit card or a gym membership

(01:13:19):
to register to vote. You don't need a photo ID,
you don't need any of that. That bothers that that's
just voter repression requiring of a valid photo ID. The
Supreme Court, one of the cases that they are still

(01:13:40):
hashing out and they're set to side soon could come
out today. Who knows whether states can accept mail in
ballots that arrive after election day that could invalidate the
so called grace period in states like California. And again,

(01:14:04):
we weren't voting for mayor of Los Angeles, well at
least I hope we weren't. I wasn't. Just kind of
watching it, though very closely, kind of rooting for Spencer Pratt,
not because he was running as a non Democrat, he
was more independent than he was Republican, but just to

(01:14:27):
break up that system of one party in competency that
has become what California politics overall has become because of
this one party system, so it seems like the most
incompetent people get elected. But anyway, and a lot of

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people around the country were watching that race. Obviously it
became a national story. California is a big state. There
are a lot of electoral votes, lots of representation in
California that's sadly again mostly one party rule, and that's
the way they've planned it. That's the way they worked

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it out. And the governor's race too, which surprisingly Steve
Hilton did finish in the top two and will be
in that you'll actually have a Republican versus a Democrat
come November in California. But this decision by the Supreme Court.

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If it comes today, It's going to come down soon,
one way or the other. After enormous attention paid across
the country to the results in the battle for mayor
of Los Angeles and the governor's contest in California. It
would likely have no bearing on those races, though a

(01:15:57):
governor's race, which is a statewide race, or a mayor's
race because it's local. This would only deal with federal contests,
which includes US House seats, so it could have wide
ranging implications on how things get done voting wise in California.

(01:16:19):
No matter what their law says, the Supreme Court could
supersede those mail in ballot requirements that California now, which
are practically none. I mean, how many voter dumps did
we get? I think there was a good word for
it too, it was a ballot dump because it smelled

(01:16:45):
a high heaven. It's unbelievable that people wouldn't want to
have verification, People wouldn't want to have a timeline where
they would know an outcome. I mean, we're Americans. We

(01:17:07):
crave instant gratification. We want it right now, We want
it right right now. That's not all was easy to achieve,
but it's really difficult to achieve when you've got ballots
coming in and somebody else made the point that the

(01:17:29):
ballot had to be postmarked by election day, even though
it could be received after election day. But a lot
of times there's no postmark anymore on mail. Have you
noticed that? And they were allowing people to write their
own postmark. It's the honor system in a state where

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there is very little honor left or integrity and for
the homeless and the drug addicts, dignity for that matter.
It's great. But watching scotis for that decision on mail
in ballots, and it would relate to federal elections, so
they can still have their Banana Republic elections, I guess

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in LA and for the governor's seat. Yeah, seven fourteen
at fifty five krs DE talk station. So we talk
about all kinds of things that we need to worry
about or concern ourselves with, or need to stop or
need to start doing. My question this morning, if you

(01:18:35):
care to chime in, is what is the biggest issue
in your life? What issue that we talk about really
affects you the most in your day to day walk
in just getting through the day in living. I'm curious
to what's really the issue, not necessarily a problem, maybe,

(01:19:00):
but perhaps something that helps get you through all of
the craziness that we're going through. And I'll pose that
to you now five one, three, seven, four nine fifty
five hundred, because I know my biggest struggle is not

(01:19:21):
worrying about the Epstein files or whether we're at war
with Iran, or even gas prices. My biggest struggle is
usually internally and you know, trying to mold myself to
what I believe God's will is for my life. That's

(01:19:43):
my biggest issue every day. That's that's a primary thought
on my mind most of the time, and followed in
succession by of course making ends meet, making a living,
getting through a day, getting to all all the different
things that I have to get. Yesterday I had three jobs.

(01:20:05):
It just happens that way, and it happens for other
people too. But I'm curious as to you, what's your
biggest mountain to climb? What is primarily on your mind?
Is there anything on your mind at all? Are you
wrapped up in your social media and your phone? Have

(01:20:27):
you become one of those people or do you see
somebody has an item at work, say that you kind
of covet like a Florida woman named Ariana Moss who

(01:20:49):
went through a pre trial intervention agreement to agree to
pay fines and court costs related to the theft of
a coworker's Stanley cupp The Florida woman And where else? Huh, Danny,
we got somebody calling with a problem. The Florida woman

(01:21:09):
who stole a coworker's Stanley cup, which is a very
expensive it's not the thing from the NHL. It's very
expensive coffee cup if you didn't know, so, she could
use it to store her breast milk. As accepted responsibility
for the theft, and we'll also have to go through

(01:21:33):
a shoplifting awareness course. It's a misdemeanor and it'll be
dismissed upon her successful completion of a six month program.
But she stole the forty ounce insulated tumbler, and before

(01:21:56):
she did, she said she'd pointed to it and used
this cup would be great to hold my breast milk.
Who thinks like that? And do you think that maybe
she's got bigger issue She's figure out? Joe, Joe, are
you there? Hello? Joe, Joe, you're on the air. Yeah, yeah,

(01:22:21):
this is Joe. Yeah yeah. So what's your big issue
what's on your mind every day? Mortgage fraud and trying
to get through it. So what do you mean mortgage fraud?
Described the situation.

Speaker 10 (01:22:34):
Well, it has been done upon me by my loved one,
seating financial misconduct, and it just I've got an attorney
and I'm spinning my wheels and it just is not
going anywhere. And uh, I just want everyone out there
to know that they should be paying more attention to

(01:22:57):
what's going on at home because I did not. I
trusted my wife and now I'm paying severely for it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:07):
That's me out It's it's an incredible thing when when
a relationship falls apart, when you have trust in someone
in six years, unbelievable. And you know, and I know
that there are They always say there are two sides
of the story. I always say, there's three sides of
the story. There's his story, her story, and the truth

(01:23:30):
and the truth. But I feel terrible for you that
you're going through this right now. I just want to
chime in. Oh no, I'm glad man. That's what I offered.
I offered the forum for you to do exactly what
you just did and at least get it off your
chest and we'll be thinking about you today. Joe, good luck,

(01:23:50):
tell you, sir, you bet says seven twenty four Jay
and Dayton, good morning, Hey, good morning, Hey.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
I want to build on your good comments a question
about what's our biggest problem. I think we all have
a shared biggest problem, and that is where are we
going to spend eternity? Which is what you were alluding to.
And you know that the Bible says we kind of
put that burden on ourselves as people, and we lay

(01:24:19):
down and we say it to night man. I hope
my journal, I hope my pluses are bigger than my minuses,
and I hope I've done enough good. The Bible never
says that. The Bible says for God to love the world,
that he gave his only big gotten son, but whosoever
believes in him shall not perish, but have eternal life.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
Amen.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
The only action verb there is believed. And anybody out
there who's not sure if they're good enough or not,
let me assure you you're not.

Speaker 6 (01:24:46):
But Jesus was.

Speaker 2 (01:24:48):
And if you read Romans or any other book of
the Bible that Paul wrote. He said, our salvation comes
through him. It's a gift, it's not wages that we
can earn. And so I applaud you for bringing that
up today. Now maybe my number two. Now I'm going
to get worldly is the size of this government and

(01:25:09):
the increasing spending.

Speaker 7 (01:25:11):
I think is if I was to take just.

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
A worldly point of view, which is wrong, I had
to keep an eternal point of view and hang on
to that.

Speaker 7 (01:25:19):
But whether we're.

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
Talking Columbus or Washington, DC, or Donald Trump, I hear
now that they're building an arch outside of Arlington and
where we're working twenty hours a day and some sort
of arch of the triumph kind of.

Speaker 7 (01:25:35):
Know what it's going to cost.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
Yeah, yes, And so we're spending overtime and untold millions
in a country that's broke. Try to get this done
while he's still in office. I could give a rip
if it ever gets done at all.

Speaker 11 (01:25:50):
We're broke.

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
And you see what's going on in Columbus with all
the medicaid fraud. I think that that is just you know, jobs.
I think Mike Dwine looks at that whole industry as
jobs and grow something he desperately needs in Ohio. But anyways,
back to the first and most important point. If the
listener's out there, if you haven't accepted Jesus Christ and

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you're wondering where your your eternity's going to be, you
can do that today and you don't have to any
more worry about whether you're good enough or not.

Speaker 3 (01:26:20):
He was accept the gift.

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
He's a savior.

Speaker 3 (01:26:23):
He's the bridge.

Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
Between centful man.

Speaker 7 (01:26:25):
And Holy God.

Speaker 2 (01:26:26):
And whatever you do, don't vote Democrat, don't vote Rhino.

Speaker 3 (01:26:30):
I appreciate what you do.

Speaker 1 (01:26:31):
Ok, Jay, thanks a lot. I appreciate the phone call.
He got it all in there. Seven twenty seven. What's
on your mind? This is the hour to air it
out and Steve, you're next when we come back after
a break on fifty five krc DE talk station, Gary

(01:26:52):
chamfan for Brian this morning. What's on your mind? What
is eating you? If? What are you obsessing about? What's
constantly in your thoughts? Steve in Sincy, what's on your mind? Man?

Speaker 3 (01:27:07):
Does that me?

Speaker 11 (01:27:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:27:09):
You? Okay? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:27:11):
Just one of the colleges, Carey John three sixteen. Yes,
I just have a comment about it, the kind of
belief talking about in John three sixteen. If you believe
is the kind of belief that changes your life.

Speaker 1 (01:27:26):
Yeah, oh, I absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:27:29):
I would add to that.

Speaker 8 (01:27:30):
Anybody's interested to take a look at John, the Gospel
of John John fourteen fifteen. If you look it up
John fourteen fifteen.

Speaker 1 (01:27:38):
Okay, you've given us some homework. Oh okay, yeah, I'll
get right on it. Man. Thank you. Jim in sense
a medicare fraud is on your mind, right.

Speaker 12 (01:27:52):
Yes, yes, Hearry Jeff coming home last night from Worth
and I see a sign down there on the courner
fork and Montanas says, get paid fourteen dollars an hour
to take care of your relatives. Sounds like some only
things from Columbuses and made his way as his many.

Speaker 1 (01:28:15):
Oh, it's everywhere across the country, Jim. It's not synonymous
with the Minnesota or California or Ohio. It is countrywide.
And when Jay earlier was talking about we're broke, that's
a big reason we're broke. You know. Society's societies fall

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when the public decides that they're going to vote themselves
money out of the treasury, and they do it in many,
many ways. They vote for people who condone and encourage
medicare fraud as it looks like that happened in Minnesota
with Governor Tim Walls and the Attorney general there, Keith Ellison,

(01:29:01):
who not only turned a blind eye to it, but
with a nod and a wink and couraged it. You know,
it's it's somebody else's money, it's ours to take, basically,
is the philosophy. And the fraud is the fraud is
rampant all over the country, and so of course it's

(01:29:24):
moved to Ohio.

Speaker 12 (01:29:27):
Just kind of blatant for your sign a printed from
a post professional prinyer sign sitting there on the corner
and say hey, come come take care of us. It's
more medicure.

Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
Money, absolutely, and the people who actually need the care
and the money and the treatment, well they're sol because
of stuff like that. Pete on a cell phone? What's
on your mind, Pete?

Speaker 11 (01:29:52):
Yes, sir, Okay, I'm gonna make a real quick point.
The difference between a million and a billion, say dollars
or second, it's eleven days. You get a million seconds.
A billion seconds is thirty one years. I cannot comprehend
what a trillion is, No, sir, said sir. My biggest
gripe is is men don't work anymore. I've got the

(01:30:14):
coolest job in town. I'm a commercial draft beer plumber.
I go bars and restaurants and well, never try a
skinny cook. But I take them apart, I clean them,
I put them back together, are install I take care
of the refrigeration, cool, clean, crisp beer for everybody. And
I can't get guys to fricking work. And it's like

(01:30:38):
you're driving around half the time in between customers. It's good,
it's worked. You're up and down steps and got to
push some kegs around. But you know, these guys, they
just don't have They don't last. They they either have
mechanical skills and won't work, or have no skills.

Speaker 1 (01:30:56):
And refuse to learn.

Speaker 11 (01:30:59):
And real, yeah, you want to correct me by noon,
telling me how well I'm going to do it my way.
Give me a freaking break, dude. My family's been doing
it since nineteen thirty nine. And I can't convince you
that I think I've got this. And let's just you
sit back and listen and learn, and it's amazing. And

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that's that's my biggest gripe. Sir. Well, the trillions of
dollars weren't debt.

Speaker 1 (01:31:26):
Of course, all right, Pete. And that's a legitimate gripe.
And it's obvious everywhere that the work ethic. It's not
an old man thing. It is just a state of
the way things are, sadly in our society. And it's

(01:31:47):
another symptom of us having it just way too good
for way too long in this country, that we just
expected to be dropped into our laps. I got, I
got a zoom call. I don't have to go into
the office. I'll order some food in today because I

(01:32:13):
don't feel like going two blocks to Arby's or wherever
to get my sandwich. Oh hey, your groceries delivered. It
does provide jobs for people who do want to work.
But the laziness, the overall laziness component of today's modern
society in America is insane. Seven thirty six fifty five

(01:32:40):
KRC the talk station Ellie eddiey seven on a Friday morning,
Gary Jeffan for Brian, and the prevailing question in this
hour is what is most on your mind? Is it?
Is it war? Is it the Epstein files? Is it
the true brillions of dollars that our country is in

(01:33:02):
debt and your share is in the hundreds of thousands.
By the way, is it trans gender issues either way?
No pun intended. What is it ballot counting for Rick

(01:33:25):
in Western Hills. It's ballot counting? Good morning Rick?

Speaker 13 (01:33:28):
Yeah, Hi, Just some of these results never add up
in these elections, you know, like the last city council election.
You know, Liz Kidding didn't win Hyde Parks. She's from there.
And all these people that were sign a petition to
stop from a building a high rise on Hyde Park Square,
there's like five thousand of them, yet she only got

(01:33:48):
four thousand votes. It doesn't make any sense. The machine
that counts the votes as a computer, it's a talling machine.
It's different than the scanner. It's a tally machine. It's
at the Board of Elections. But way back in two
thousand and nine, Barack Obama said, everybody in the country,
every county, has to get the same one dominion boat

(01:34:11):
county machine. What's a computer built in China? And why
can't it be hacked? AI hacked everything?

Speaker 12 (01:34:17):
They people.

Speaker 13 (01:34:18):
Computers can be hacked by anything in anybody. And people
can rig our elections. And I think they rig our
local elections, they rig our state elections, They rigg our
national elections.

Speaker 1 (01:34:28):
Well, Rick, here's the way to solve this. Number one,
You pretty much eliminate mail in voting eliminated. Uh. You
go to paper ballots, hand marked, hand counted, and I
bet you'll get I bet you'll get your results quicker.

Speaker 11 (01:34:48):
Uh.

Speaker 13 (01:34:49):
Then, well, I absolutely one hundred percent agree. But they
never count the paper ballots, even when it's close. And
you know, there is no way on earth that Smitherman lost.
There's no way on the Keating loss. They only lost
by a few hundred votes. I mean there's five six
thousand votes cast. Why can't you just recount them as
a thing. You're allowed to ask for a hand recount

(01:35:10):
if you're running. They never do, like they're afraid to
or something. I would make it happen if I'm going
to run for any office next time, I would insist
on a count by hand. And Ramas Swami they'll try
to rig down against him. He should make him hand counting.
He got to pay for the hand count. He's got
the money to pay for it.

Speaker 1 (01:35:30):
Well, Rick, Uh, you still might not win because your
skin's not a certain color and you're not a Democrat.
Did you ever think of about that?

Speaker 13 (01:35:42):
Hamilton County was always republican, always, no way, A long
time ago.

Speaker 1 (01:35:47):
What I don't know, but the city, the township.

Speaker 13 (01:35:51):
He's from here, it's freaking crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:35:53):
The city of Cincinnati is not Republican. It hasn't been
for a long time. Hamilton County, yes, the city he.

Speaker 13 (01:36:00):
Know, not white and the Smitherman had a lot of
support before in the black community, and he talked on
the radio this channel for years and yours and he
had support from both sides, and he had name recognition.
There's no way that he lost an election. If you
would have had a hand counted, he would have won.
They would have found out that it's rigged.

Speaker 1 (01:36:21):
Uh, you know what. And I understand exactly where you're
coming from and what you're saying, and I agree with
most of it. I think there is definitely an issue
with dominion computer systems, but that's all I'll say because
I can get sued like Fox News did now. There
are definitely issues with the way we're holding elections in

(01:36:45):
this country, and a lot of it stemmed maybe that
was the whole purpose behind the scamdemic with COVID, well,
so they could safeguard rigging our election from this point forward,
with mail in ballots with lowered expectations, with early voting,

(01:37:12):
with extra voting time, it's like a soccer match. Oh,
we're in extra time now. The election of twenty twenty six,
It certainly will be an interesting watch when we get
to November, because the Democrats fully expect and history suggests

(01:37:34):
that the Democrats are going to win back the House
of Representatives and the Senate. It almost always happens at
the midterm of whoever the president's whatever party the president is,
it goes the other way, the pendulum swings. But in

(01:37:59):
a survey I yesterday, it looks like the Republicans may
keep the House and the Senate in November. But it's
going to be an interesting to watch to see those
election results and what possible improprieties may be used to

(01:38:20):
sway it one way or the other. Seven forty six,
Good morning, fifty five KARC the Too Station, going back
to Pete's conversation, has called earlier this hour about not
being able to get anybody to work and what has
happened to the ethic of working hard, making an honest

(01:38:40):
day's living, you know, And part of the answer is
that there are people who are getting paid right now
and buy the thousands. From what I can see in
the different protests around the countries to protest, and they're
almost all leftist based, and they are funded by billionaires

(01:39:08):
who are sending people out to crying billionaires. We like
our billionaires, they pay us. We hate those billionaires. It
is funny, actually, but a lot of people are. That's
a profession now, the AstroTurf protester, and that seems like

(01:39:33):
a lot harder work than I don't know, doing beer
draft coolers. But I remember being twelve years old and
out cutting grass for neighbors and stuff. You know, get
on the bike right around, say hey, can I cut

(01:39:55):
your grass? And an amazing thing happened here in twenty
twenty six. I would give you a little shot of
hope here that it's not completely gone in this country,
that work ethic, the entrepreneurial spirit. About a month ago,

(01:40:19):
I hadn't been able to find time to get out
and cut my little postage stamp of a front lawn.
It takes me about seven eight minutes. That's relatively flat,
so it's not a big deal. But there's a knock
on the door. The grass is getting kind of high,

(01:40:39):
and it's like must have been a ten to eleven
year old kid, Hey, can I cut your grass? It
was like amaze that hadn't happened in years in the
same neighborhood, had a couple of kids help dig us

(01:40:59):
out when it snowed this winter. There are some parents
that are doing their job properly in Southgate, Kentucky. But
it just floored me. I said, well, I was going
to get it, but sure, I just loved that he

(01:41:19):
had the ambition to get up out of the house,
get off his iPhone or his PlayStation, and go around
the neighborhood with a mower and gas and going, hey,
I'm here to work, put me to work. I loved it.

(01:41:41):
But it doesn't happen very often, and it hadn't happened probably,
like I said, for no probably five or six years,
where it's just that, yeah, I'm ready, let's go. I
got things I want to do with my life. I
got things I want want to buy. My mom and

(01:42:02):
dad said I had to go and cut grass if
I wanted, if I wanted any money, because they were
done giving me the money just for existing, for breathing.
So it does still exist, and we need to foster
that and encourage that as much as possible, especially in
young people. Maybe the pendulum is swinging back to the

(01:42:28):
right side of the fence. I don't know. Michael Pack is,
I believe, CEO of Palladium Pictures. He's a producer and director. Rather,
he's a producer and director of The Lockdown Dissidence. It

(01:42:51):
is one of the Wall Street Journal's Opinion Documents documentaries
WSG Opinion docs you may have heard of them, so
a series of documentary films produced by a collaboration between
the Wall Street Journal Opinion and Palladium Pictures. And he

(01:43:11):
will be joining us in just a few minutes after
eight o'clock to talk about the documentary that spotlight scientists
who challenge COVID nineteen policies and face censorship for it.
And these guys are no slouches. They are, as they say,

(01:43:33):
experts in their field. We'll talk to Michael Pack about
the documentary in just a few It's seven fifty six
at fifty five KRC the talk station. All right, getting
into the eight o'clock hour, expecting Michael Pack, writer, director,
producer of The Lockdown Dissidence. I was telling you about

(01:43:57):
it just before the top of the hour there. Wall
Street Journal Opinion Doc part of a series that Wall
Street Journal is doing WSJ Opinion Docs, and it talks
to and spotlights the scientists and well known doctors who

(01:44:19):
are recognized as experts in their field and how they
were censored and in many cases they were almost blacklisted
from the profession from straying from the COVID nineteen lockdown
narratives that were imposed on all of us. I was
no expert, but I knew they were bogus too. Anyway,

(01:44:43):
waiting to get a hold of Michael. If we don't,
it's okay. The question of the morning has been And
continuing in that theme, what is the primary thing on
your mind? I mean, we spit all kinds of problems
and issues at you all the time and talk radio,
but what are you really concerned with? And Paul has
a chance to uh to spleen vent himself. Now, Paul,

(01:45:07):
good morning, you're in the air.

Speaker 8 (01:45:09):
Yeah, good morning. You don't have enough time here. All
of them, but one to drive me crazy is voting.
Then we should have three minute voting. Now, how do
you do that? You pick up your ballot two or
three weeks ahead of time, take it home, put it
on your refrigerator. Look kind of study it and do
whatever we're going to do with it. Fill it out,
take a picture ID, and to go and to the

(01:45:31):
voting pole. Don't booze poll and then you scan your finger.
You did not vote, good, Give me your ballot, give
your ID. They do that. You step and that's what.
Dip your finger, drop your belt, you out the door
and take it all to get out of your car
and go in and out of the building. That would
the vote people go to vote. They stay there and
they're looking for a port I d a porterlet what

(01:45:53):
they I wish this live would boob? I got to
either that or well the hell would our vote next year?
And get out a line and leave.

Speaker 1 (01:46:00):
I've never done that. I've never got out. I've never
got I got to tell you when I where I vote.
I don't even see a damn line.

Speaker 8 (01:46:09):
Paul, Well, it is a lie. The thing of it
is that I do him a three minute voting. That
this stuff of voting, and today and next week they
got more ballots and man.

Speaker 1 (01:46:20):
No, you're right, you're right mail ballot. I believe in
election day voting period. End of story. Thanks for the call,
and I can understand he's frustrated. Matt in cold Spring,
have you got something for us?

Speaker 13 (01:46:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (01:46:36):
I got some and get off my mind. But anyway,
first of all, I want to ask you a question.
Do I remember you playing music for a station back
in Cincinnati back in seventy eight? No seventy one.

Speaker 1 (01:46:51):
No no, no, no, no, no no no. I didn't
come to Cincinnati until nineteen ninety four.

Speaker 12 (01:46:58):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:47:00):
Anyway, you're making me a lot older than I am. Matt.

Speaker 14 (01:47:04):
I thought I remember somebody Gary Jeff Walker, working for
like an album rock station, But I guess I had
that wrong. Anyway, Uh, I'm the guy that a lot
of people hate. Glenn Beck. For one, he hates people
that fall asleep at the drop of a hat. That's me.

(01:47:25):
I can. I can fall asleep. I can be sitting
there watching TV. My wife looks at me and says,
you're going to be sleeping, aren't you. I said, no,
I'm okay, I'm Two minutes later, I am sleeping. I
fall asleep.

Speaker 1 (01:47:36):
Well do you have do you have narcolepsy?

Speaker 14 (01:47:39):
No? No, I just I get relaxed when I'm not
working because I'm working. I've been working all morning in
the garden n Wilson and cutting down some brush and
stuff like that. So I get up there early this morning.
I was up at four o'clock and I didn't have
to be, but I get my coffee and dang bang,
I'm out there working and I got my health. Which

(01:48:02):
I'm sixty five years old. I got my health. I
can do all kinds of physical stuff. And I'm retired.
That's good. I retired early. I really have not yet.
I don't like what's going on politically in this country.
If I had a beef, it's that the Dems are
your crap and a lot of Republicans aren't much better.

Speaker 1 (01:48:26):
But ware right about that.

Speaker 14 (01:48:27):
Yeah, but that's pretty much all I had to say.
Thanks for listening to me.

Speaker 1 (01:48:33):
Oh you bet, you bet. Go back to the garden.
It's going to be nice today. Get this rain out
of the way. Yeah. On this subject, he said, politics,
I generally hate politics, all kinds. I hate that it
consumes so much of our lives, so much of our

(01:48:56):
time thinking and commiser rating over and wringing our hands
about politics and Dems and Republicans and God, I hate
Trump and the whole the whole ball of wax is
just kind of nonsensical. A friend of mine years ago

(01:49:17):
said politics is sports for geeks, and I pretty much agree.
The only reason I care is that politics sadly overtakes
our lives and it changes how we live our lives.

(01:49:40):
I don't think politics in America was ever supposed to
change your life or alter the way in which you
choose to live. I thought it was just I thought
it was protecting. You're right to choose the way you
want to live. Scott in Cleaves, what's on your mind?

Speaker 15 (01:50:00):
This is a perfect man, and what you just said
is exactly correct. And all I was going to say
is how grateful I am. I'm grateful for the safe
travels I've had thus far. I'm grateful for the love
that I have around me and the love I've been
allowed to give.

Speaker 1 (01:50:15):
Oh man, that's that's excellently said. I agree, that's that's wonderful.
All right. God bless man, God bless me, God bless you. Yeah,
Gratitude is is probably my my guiding light most of
the time, as as far as focus and direction. What

(01:50:38):
he said, though, grateful for the safety and travels that
he's he's been through, for the people that love him
and his ability to love them back. I mean, that's
important stuff. It's it's a lot more important than who
the county auditor is or even who the president of

(01:51:03):
the United States is. I love the question people at
how's life treating you? And I think, you know, instead
of just giving the pantanca, oh, pretty good, pretty good,
I always say, well, generally, life in this world pretty
much treats me crappy. It's how I treat myself and

(01:51:26):
others that matter. And it's true. But the fact that
we have to focus so much on politics, not just
on the radio, on this show or any show, or
in our social media or in our podcast if we
have one, or in our conversations, our general conversation, I

(01:51:50):
think we talk too much about politics. I think it's
become too important. It's not supposed to be that important
in our life. It's supposed to be there as a
safeguard so we can live our lives the way we
choose to do, as long as we're not hurting someone else.

(01:52:12):
I mean, but to be able to just enjoy life,
liberty and the pursuit of happiness, isn't that what the
last two hundred and fifty years has supposedly been about
in the United States of America. I thought, So, it's

(01:52:36):
not how beautiful the reflecting pool is, or it's not
about how can I get some of that money for myself.
It's about they should be taking less of the money
that I earn and giving it to someone else. But

(01:52:57):
that's not the way it works, unfortunately. I don't know.
I just think that we put too much emphasis and
allow politics to have too much control over our day
to day lives. We can't ignore them, and you should vote,

(01:53:18):
but obsessing over it every day. People who are professional politicians,
that's got to be a job that just absolutely wears
you out. An elected office was never supposed to be
a profession, a livelihood. It was supposed to be necessary

(01:53:42):
to represent your fellow citizens, but it wasn't supposed to
be a career. Let's take a break and come back
with Joyce fifty five KRCV talk stations. Now, I spent
a lot of time lining up books, guests, things that
I think might be interesting, and then when they don't

(01:54:05):
show up, it's it's kind of disappointing. But then I
realize I've got a whole audience of guests who are
willing to chime in how about that five one three,
seven hundred and Joyce has held on the line. Thank
you for your patience, dear, what's on your mind?

Speaker 5 (01:54:24):
Hey, good morning Gary, Jeff. Just a couple of things.
First of all, the gratitude, boy, that can change your
mindset in a flash.

Speaker 16 (01:54:34):
My mom used to always tell me you could always.

Speaker 5 (01:54:37):
Find something to be miserable about.

Speaker 16 (01:54:39):
How about trying to find.

Speaker 5 (01:54:40):
Something to be happy about instead? And I'm she told
me that years ago and I'm lived by those words
and it's always helped me. And the second thing is,
as far as the politics go, dude, it's pervasive. Is
that everything they injected into our sports, they injected into
our entertainment. There's nothing we can do get away from

(01:55:00):
politics these.

Speaker 16 (01:55:01):
Days unless you just completely unplug and live in the woods.
I mean, what are you going to do to get
away from it?

Speaker 1 (01:55:09):
Well, I think just don't give it the energy. Uh,
you know, if if, if, if any kind of essence
or any kind of entity is denied energy, eventually it
seems to be less pervasive. And I think we we
kind of we kind of we kind of feed into

(01:55:29):
what we're inject they're they're injecting into our lives. We
feed into it, and the more we feed into it,
the more that is. That is kind of like it's
gratification for them, and say, oh, well they want more,
they're feeding into it. Let's keep it, let's keep it rolling.

Speaker 4 (01:55:47):
Yeah, that's yeah, that's true.

Speaker 17 (01:55:49):
And really, the one thing that I was going to
say that's on my mind and I'll hang up this mine,
is that the rampant abuse and frauds to the two
billions of dollars.

Speaker 5 (01:55:59):
To me, if there is a legislator in BC or
locally that really is fiscally conservative, they would be doing
everything possible to route out the billions of dollars of
our money that's going to frosters.

Speaker 16 (01:56:14):
And that praise on me.

Speaker 17 (01:56:16):
I'm almost a Social Security age and thought that I've
counted on My husband and I are smart, you know,
we plan for retirement. But still think of all the
Social Security recipients that wouldn't have to worry if they
had the billions of dollars in fraud that are being
built from us on the.

Speaker 1 (01:56:33):
Daily everywhere insolvent by twenty thirty two, joyce, that's six years.

Speaker 8 (01:56:39):
Sure, yep, I've heard that.

Speaker 16 (01:56:41):
I'm not counting on it. Because I don't think it'll
be there.

Speaker 1 (01:56:44):
Well, you know, I mean, Joyce. I'll be honest with you.
I'm not smart and I didn't plan well. So my
retirement plan and I've said this for twenty years, and
I'll tell you now my reply. My retirement plan is death.
As long as i'm physically I will be doing something
for a living. I guarantee it's luck. As long as

(01:57:06):
somebody will hire me to do it and I'm physically able,
I'm working. I like to work.

Speaker 16 (01:57:11):
Well yeah, I mean, I'm a retired teacher, but now
I clean houses, so yeah, I'm the same. I've always
worked at work since I'm fourteen, and I can.

Speaker 5 (01:57:22):
I will work until I have to stop working exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:57:26):
Well, listen, I'm grateful that you called. Continue to rejoice,
joyce in the things that you have and and all
of the blessings that we can count.

Speaker 5 (01:57:37):
Okay, amen, brother, I'm more blessed than I deserve.

Speaker 1 (01:57:41):
Yep, me too, me too, Thanks all right. A twenty five.
Johannah Newman is our guest on the other side, if
she decides to show up. If not, I'm thoroughly enjoying
talking to you, so we can continue that on this Friday,
June the twelfth, twenty twenty six, Sunday's the President's birthday.

(01:58:03):
Did you send him a card? I got two or
three emails just this morning from President Trump. They always
seem to be needing money, and the Democrats are just
the same way. But I didn't think the President needed money.
They're always asking for money. To join now for an

(01:58:29):
expenses paid trip tomorrow a lago. I'd like to go
eight twenty five and some change fifty five KRC the
Talks Day. I remember being ten years old, summer night
in the West Burbs of Chicago when we lived there.
So I'm ten years old, and all of a sudden,

(01:58:53):
on the fourth of July, I'm watching the fireworks and
I started I started crying, not because I was afraid
or scared of the fireworks, but I had this overwhelming
and nobody told me to feel this way, this overwhelming
sense of pride and patriotism that I was part of,

(01:59:17):
that celebration that I was born in this country. It
just hit me. Fourth of July and Thanksgiving are my
two favorite holidays because to me, they are both all
American holidays. In three weeks, the United States of America

(01:59:41):
will celebrate its birthday two hundred and fifty, the anniversary
of the signing of the Declaration of Independence, our statement
that said, we are an independent country, we are on
our own, and we want liberty and freedom to reign

(02:00:03):
on this continent, and for two hundred and fifty years
pretty much has so as we approach this one of
my two favorite holidays, this most important American birthday, there
are communities canceling the fourth of July. And we have

(02:00:32):
a woman who has agreed to come on this morning
who can answer questions as to why cities like Long Beach, California,
and Nantucket are scrapping traditions of celebration around the country.

(02:00:57):
And this is another way that the left has really
really invaded not only our academic but also our church families.
On Nantucket, for example, a church scrapt it's twenty five
year tradition of reading the Declaration of Independence so the

(02:01:18):
congregation could and I quote better understand their own whiteness.
What is this madness? Johannah Newman here to answer it.
She has got a new novel out called Trump's Superpower.
And we'll speak to these things on the verge of
America's two hundred and fiftieth birthday, Johannah, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 4 (02:01:41):
Thank you so much. I love your introduction.

Speaker 1 (02:01:46):
No, I'm serious, and I don't know what happened if
that had been instilled in me somewhere through my parents
or through public school education, which back then wasn't under
federal control. You know, we're talking about the late sixties,
long before the federal Department of Education had come into

(02:02:07):
being and come to influence local public schools. I got
a pretty good school education, but it was just this
overwhelming wave of emotion I felt at a particular Fourth
of July celebration and it just hit me how how
blessed I was to be in America.

Speaker 9 (02:02:28):
Aren't we? Aren't we all?

Speaker 4 (02:02:30):
And you know, I think of the Declaration of Independence
as our mission statement. Yeah, and the clarion calls of
Jefferson's writing still movement. All men are created equal, And
despite what the Democrats say, our rights do not come

(02:02:51):
from man or from government. They come from the Creator.
And no government can exist without the consent of the overned.
And for me, those three things are like our mission statements.
And I it's I'm as for fight as you are

(02:03:11):
by you know, just when you think the Left can't
sink any further, they cancel Fourth of July. It's just
it's it's shockingly well.

Speaker 1 (02:03:20):
It is it is, it is, it is the it
is the the specter of President Trump, though, Isn't it
that's making them so nice?

Speaker 4 (02:03:29):
Sure, I'm sure you know. I call my book Trump's Superpower.
But the subtitle is a historical novel about the Founding
fathers and one Founding mother, and I bring the Founders
down from heaven for our two hundred and fifty birthday.
They have a lot of amusing interactions with twenty first

(02:03:50):
century Americans that you know. Ben Franklin gets arrested for
mis gendering someone and George Washington gets his teeth picks,
and all these funny things happened. But they also have
this serious ongoing conversation among themselves about whether this is
the country they meant to leave. And at one point

(02:04:11):
they encounter protests at the very National Archives there there.
I brought them down to be actors in the reenactments,
and you know they are. Their reaction to the protesters
is Thomas Jefferson is very He's not surprised by any

(02:04:36):
of it. He never thought that the Founding, you know,
he thought that every generation should interpret the Founding for themselves.
But the others are pretty horrified.

Speaker 9 (02:04:48):
And I'm I'm with you.

Speaker 4 (02:04:51):
I I had a father who was the son of
an immigrant for whom the fourth of July was was magical.
And I remember we were growing up. He would he
would stop people on the fourth of July and say
happy birthday, and they would look at him quite puzzled

(02:05:12):
because I got my birthday And he said, oh, yes,
it's all about birthday. Yeah, so that is my perspective too.
And I you know, when Mayor montdani has issues an
executive order banning more than twenty people for gathering on
the fourth of July.

Speaker 1 (02:05:32):
But wait a minute, but the street parties are okay
after Knicks games.

Speaker 4 (02:05:38):
Apparently. Yeah, it's no, no hypocrisy. Well enough, But the
other one that broke this week is that Karen Bass,
the mayor of Los Angeles, canceled a parade of fifty
years standing in Tohunga. Sun went to hunt it's called

(02:06:02):
suggesting that they do it on a different day.

Speaker 1 (02:06:08):
Well, I mean the day is July fourth. Is July fourth?

Speaker 4 (02:06:13):
Oh yeah, she said, you know, do it on a
thick another day.

Speaker 1 (02:06:18):
So in your book, go ahead, Well, I was going
to say, in your book you talk about anyway, finish
your thought and then we'll get more to the book.

Speaker 4 (02:06:29):
Okay, what I was going to say. And the question
of why they're doing this, it's my belief that the left,
which has been dishing the Founders and the Foundings for
more than one hundred years. I know that in nineteen
thirteen a historian named Charles Beard wrote a seminal work

(02:06:56):
on the Founders saying that they hadn't created this country
tree for freedom or liberty, but because they were greedy,
economic bastards. And ever since, you know, the Academy has
piled on with charges of racism, sexism, and white colon
is enamel, and the press, of course, is following suit.

(02:07:20):
There's a recent article in The New Yorker where the
author offers off suggests that the patriotism can debase the country,
and he sort of frowns on it. And for me,

(02:07:41):
it was a tell because they think they're better than us.
They think they look down these glocity looks from above,
the professional academics and the professional critics, and they sort

(02:08:01):
of mock us for fireworks and barbecues and flag waving,
and they're missing the joy as far as I'm concerned.
In they're arrogance. They are missing the joy.

Speaker 1 (02:08:17):
Well, you know, you talk about Charles Beard in nineteen
thirteen odd timing who was the president of the country
in nineteen thirteen, Woodrow Wilson, when we started, when we
started this long slide to socialism. It's been over one

(02:08:38):
hundred years. We have two hundred and fifty years birthday
as a country. But for the last one hundred plus
years now that founding has been under assault in the
corridors of power in historians and these elitist kind of
lofty ivory tower. And in your book Trump's Superpower, you

(02:09:07):
you talk about John Adams warning to his wife Abigail
that there will be no end of it. Women will
demand to vote, which becomes a running thread through the book.

Speaker 4 (02:09:19):
Yeah. No, he was present president. I mean, he thought
if they went forward with this that everybody would want in.
You know, he worried about slaves and Indians and even
unpropertied men who weren't allowed to vote in those days.

(02:09:42):
And I, you know, and and I actually in the book,
I send him home early because he's just having a
lot of trouble adjusting to You know, we are really
genuinely a diverse nation. And I'm not talking about illegals,
just named legally. We have different threads in.

Speaker 1 (02:10:04):
Our fabric as e pluribus unum out of many wars.

Speaker 4 (02:10:09):
Yes, yes so, but I of course is inevitable. And
that's what makes those words so precious.

Speaker 1 (02:10:18):
Hey, can you can you can? Can you wait just
a second? I need to I need to to pay
some bills here and and we'll come back and we'll
finish the conversation. Johannah Newman is our guest. The book
Trump's Superpower, where he brings where she brings the founders
back to modern day America to see what what God

(02:10:42):
or man has wrought in the two hundred and fifty years.
Hence eight forty three at fifty five KRC, the talk station.
You're a grand old flag. You're a high flying flag.
Forever in peace, may you wave. You're the emblem of
the land. I love the home of the free and
the brave. That's right. Every heart beats true under red,

(02:11:05):
white and blue, where there's never a boaster or a brag.
But should all the quaintances be for God. Keep your
eye on that grand old flag. As we get closer
and closer to America's birthday, as Johannah Newman said, our guest,
it's everybody's birthday. Who's an American? Johannah, welcome back. We're

(02:11:26):
talking about Thank you your novel, Trump's Superpower, which, by
the way, I think that the title of it's brilliant
because if you want to sell a book, put President's
Trump's name in it. That's but you bring back the
Founding Fathers, You bring Benjamin Franklin back to modern day

(02:11:49):
America to see how things have gone. And you said,
he gets arrested for misgendering someone.

Speaker 4 (02:11:55):
Yeah, and Jonathan Churley represents him a trial, and it's
like it's one of my better chapters, I think. But
I you know, the reason I call that Trump's Superpower
is that I believe that President Trump understands how much

(02:12:17):
we need the Founders and the Founding and he is
trying to rescue them from this cabal.

Speaker 12 (02:12:23):
He is, you know, of.

Speaker 4 (02:12:26):
Left wing critics. He is marshaling a huge celebration. I
don't know if he's noticed what's going on in DC,
but he he's cleaning it up in every way. I mean,
the statues that were toppled during the twenty twenty riots
are standing again. My favorite is a man named Caesar Rodney,

(02:12:50):
who who at the time of the revolution was quite ill.
He had skin cancer that was painful, and he drove
eighty miles on his horse from Delaware to get to
Philadelphia so he could sign the Declaration of Independence because

(02:13:12):
he thought every colony should be represented. And he was toppled.
And I noticed when Trump brought him back that ABC said,
you know, described him as a controversial figure, and I thought,
what I mean, you know, what's the controversy. The man

(02:13:33):
was a patriot, and I guess that's the rub. They
don't love patriots.

Speaker 1 (02:13:38):
No, no, no, that's the thing, you could be.

Speaker 4 (02:13:42):
Trump is cleaning up the city. He's all the fountains
are now flowing. Christopher Columbus, who was up at Union Station,
the graffiti has been removed from him. And of course
the reflecting pool which under and Biden have been the
sort of algae color because it kept the cement kept

(02:14:05):
cracking and the leaks, you know, the green algae just
came in and Trump has figured out how to fix it.
And now it's redone in what it's called American flag blue.
And so I feel like Trump is sort of trying
to replace squalor with beauty. He's telling us that we

(02:14:31):
are a gorgeous nation. We have beautiful statuary, we have
beautiful public works, and we should celebrate them absolutely.

Speaker 9 (02:14:45):
You know, I.

Speaker 4 (02:14:46):
Feel like he's standing on their shoulders to make America.
This is part of his make America Great Again.

Speaker 3 (02:14:55):
Campaign.

Speaker 1 (02:14:55):
Well, Johanna, I just want to finish with this. How
ironic is it? Because this proves and what President Trump
proves again that if you're determined to do it's really
doesn't take an Act of Congress or anything else to
get things done. If you want to do it, you can.
You can do it. But ironically, and they talk about

(02:15:18):
the homelessness and the drug problems and the feces on
the street in California and cities like Los Angeles and
San Francisco. Gavin Newsom was able to clean up San
Francisco for President g of China, but he can't take
the time to do it for the people who live
in his state and pay his salary in California. He

(02:15:39):
can't do it. For that reason. President Trump is cleaning
up Washington, d C. For the country. Yes, because it
can be done.

Speaker 4 (02:15:49):
It's a beautiful thing, and.

Speaker 1 (02:15:54):
Well it's it's wonderful to talk to you. We're running
close to being out of time, but I just anything
else you want to add about the book, Trump's Superpower
or anything else you.

Speaker 6 (02:16:04):
Want to say.

Speaker 4 (02:16:04):
If you go to trumps Superpower dot com, it has
a lot of information and has a link to Amazon
to buy the book, but it also has I hired
an artist who uses AI to do videos of the
founders talking about the book, and they're just adorable.

Speaker 6 (02:16:24):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (02:16:25):
That sounds fun. That's it. Listen, have a great, great summer,
and happy birthday early.

Speaker 4 (02:16:33):
Yes, and happy birthday to you and all your listeners.

Speaker 1 (02:16:36):
Thank you, Johanna Newman as we close the show out.
Glenn Beck coming up next, and that's it for me.
Brian should be back in next Monday. Have a fantastic
weekend and happy Birthday early. From fifty five KRC, the
talk station.

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