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Kr C the talk station five oh five Gary champin
for Brian Thomas on this December eighth.

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I'll lie together. It's so precious together. We have grown,
we have grown, is still special.

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Let's take a chums flower weed.

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So time No wants to do mount of time flight
so quickly. The Why.

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It's Again movie Just Ligstock, who wins?

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Saw Loses?

Speaker 8 (01:19):
An unspeakable tragedy confirmed to us by ABC News in
New York City. John Lennon outside of his apartment building
on the West side of New York City, the most famous,
perhaps of all of the Beatles, shot twice in the
back rush the Roosevelt Hospital, dead on arrival.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
It has been forty five years since December eighth, nineteen
eighty when we all got the news that John Lennon
had been shot and killed. It was a shock to
the cultural system. It was a shock to the music
world and a shock to the world at large. I
would say, in many cases, you may have not been

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paying attention. You may have not cared all that much.
You may have not cared for John Lennon, but still
in all in the realm of culture and celebrity and influence,
John Lennon was a powerful character throughout the sixties and
the seventies, and as the song we played at the

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top so well stated this album Double Fantasy, which came
out just a couple of months before the shooting, John
Lennon felt like he was just starting over, putting away drugs,
learning to be a family man with his very young son,

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learning to be a father that he never was to
his first son. He didn't get much of a second chance.
It is December eighth, twenty twenty five before we look
ahead to look back at significant events and people tied
to this particular date, including but not limited to these

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important Bell Weather Day for the United States, and what
has happened in the eighty plus years since. December eighth,
nineteen forty one, a day after the Imperial Japanese had
attacked Pearl Harbor, the United States entered World War II,
as Congress declared WAW nineteen eighty seven, President Reagan and

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Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev signed a treaty at the White
House calling for the destruction of intermediate range missiles still
playing the nuclear dose do with other superpowers. On this date,
just thirteen years ago, Texas A and M quarterback Johnny
Manziel became the first freshman to win the Heisman Trophy.

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Who will win it this year in college football? There
are a lot of candidates, and the United States and
NATO ceremonially ended their combat mission in Afghanistan the state
In twenty fourteen, of course, there was the botch pullout

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by George by Joe Biden. He doesn't know his name either.
In twenty twenty one, John Glenn, who in nineteen sixty
two became the first US astronaut to orbit the Earth
and propel that event, propelling him to a long career

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in the Senate, died in Columbus, Ohio at the age
of ninety five. It's been nine years since we lost
John Glenn. Twenty twenty two, Russia freed WNBA star Britney
Griner for she was in prison in Russia for using
a vight pen and also looking very much like a man.

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Maybe not that last part, I'm not sure. Famous folks
celebrating birthdays today, Flutist James Galway is eighty six. It's
hard to find a good flute player, but when you do,
hold on to them, hope that they live a long
and prosperous life. Kim Basinger is seventy two. I've always

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enjoyed Kim basing Actually not the way other men have
enjoyed her. But Ann Coulter is sixty four. Have other
men ever enjoyed Ann Coulter? Terry Hatcher? We know a
lot of men have enjoyed Terry Hatcher. She is sixty one. Today,

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Basketball Hall of Famer Teresa Weatherspoon is sixty. My god,
Mike Mussina, a Baseball Hall of Famer, fifty seven Today.
NASCAR driver Ryan Newman turns forty eight. Nicki minaj is
forty three. Country singer Sam Hunt forty one. Hey, listen,
if it's your birthday, I hope it is the best
birthday you could possibly imagine, and you get to spend

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it with people you love, doing the things you love
to do. Truly, my wish for you. Well, I've wasted
five six minutes. Now five to eleven. Again on this
morning show, we have FP President Ken Kober talking about
the sediment the Settlement, which seems like it's full of sediment.

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The Settlement in the George Floyd protest back in the
summer of hay in twenty twenty. Remember, Cincinnati wasn't immune
from the idiots marching in the streets over a man
who was killed with four times the lethal amount of
fennol it takes to kill a man, blaming it on
racism and a wif cop. You remember all the blm

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all the Antifa, and now of course the city paying
the protesters who broke windows, who caused property damage and
basically terrorized other citizens on the basis of the people

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who should have been paying the city. More than eight
million dollars are getting paid because of the settlement. We
will talk about that. The rumor going around, of course,
is that this was all agreed to before the election,
but they kept it quiet so the same incompetent fools

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could get re elected and then rubber stamp it afterwards.
The old joke, Oh that was the campaign. Today you voted.
Chris Smitherman, with his usual aplom and flare and concise chattering,

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will be here to vent. Corey Bowman joins us later
this morning with the latest. I wonder if Corey Bowman's
ever had a car repossessed huh, and I hope the
city's auto pay is working correctly, the whole city could
be gone. Eight thirty. Jim Orneci will join us as well.

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It's great to be with you. I'm glad you showed up.
We'll get into the meat of the matter and some
of the things we'll be talking about this morning, right
after this break on fifty five KRCV talk stations day
and then be back down at freezing or below the
rest of the week. So good luck with that. Twenty
eight now at fifty five KRCV talk station. Back in

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January of twenty twenty four, It's been almost two years
ago Mayor A. F. Tab Pureval had his black Lincoln
Aviator repossessed. What the mayor says, it was the auto pay.
He made a mistake with the auto pay. This was

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the explanation for a man supposed to be a shining
example of fiscal responsibility as the executive in charge of
taxpayers money in Cincinnati. I mean kind of what the
mayor is. He has one job set an example for

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the rest of the citizens. But anyway, and anybody who's
ever used auto pay, and a lot of us do
for our car payments, just automatically comes out every month
of the designated account. If you made a mistake one month,

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you probably wouldn't have your car repossess. In fact, I
know emphatically you wouldn't. Finance companies who give out car
loans make every last ditch effort to contact you by mail,
by text, by phone, by email to let you know

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that you're delinquent if something falls through the cracks, and
they will do this usually on the average for ninety days.
So it wasn't a one month lapse. It was three months.

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They came and hooked it up. Don't you know who
I am? Doesn't matter. You didn't pay. He did admit
in his comment that he was careless, but missing three
months of car payments is more than careless. And it
can happen to anybody, and does I mean there are

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about one point seven million people in this country that
have their vehicles repossessed. You know, it could be a
major medical problem or surgery. It could be any number
that lose your job. You know, people who are just

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dead beats and don't pay. I think the mayor was
gainfully employed in January twenty twenty four. Whether he should
be or not. We don't know about any major medical
emergency that Aftab pure Volt might have been encountering there,
and God bless him if he was. But he kept

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that secret too. But no, the autopay defense of why
he had his car towed away doesn't wash. In the
state of Cincinnati, Aftab said the state of Cincinnati is strong,

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but violence, housing remained challenges. I mean, I don't know
who's in charge of Aftim pure Vol's finances. I mean,
I've made a mess of mind before, but I'm not
anybody's mayor. It's just another example of how screwed up

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the so called leadership is the city of Cincinnati. We'll
get into the George Floyd settlement too, that's now about
to be rubber stamped by city council. They knew that
they were going to pay out before the election, so

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I'm hearing, but kept it quiet so the voters wouldn't
know that they're giving more of their money away to criminals.
It just goes on and on and on, doesn't it.
Let's see here two juveniles shot after fight between neighbors

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in Avondale. I don't know if these reports hit have
to have pure Vall's desk or not. See about two
three yesterday afternoon, there was a report of a shooting there.
Cincinnati police say an argument between neighbors escalated to a

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fight in front yard. Well, you know what, I don't know,
is that any better than a drive by over a
drug deal? And you don't know what the argument was about.
So one round fire that grazed a juvenile hit the
other in the stomach. Both taken to Cincinnati Children's non

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life threatening injuries. I mean, this could happen anywhere in America.
I mean an altercation in a neighborhood that devolves into
something violent, But it just seems to happen pretty darned

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often in Cincinnati. There are plenty of other places in
this country. In fact, there are plenty of places in
this country where people have a whole lot more guns
per capita than are available in Cincinnati. I know you
may find that hard to believe, with all of the
gun violence here. Love that term not, but it just

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seems to happen with greater frequency in certain places in
the country, and the amount of guns available has nothing
at all to do with it culture or a lack
thereof family units, or a lack thereof drugs, and the

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abundance of you look for all the reasons that what
happened in Avondale yesterday afternoon, which happens way too often
within the city limits of Cincinnati. Let's see, the neighbors
have a long history of family troubles. I like getting

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along with my neighbors. That's that way we can all
leave our guns at home. Have you ever been to
a gun show. It's one of the safest places on
the planet, and there are tens of thousands of guns
available for people to look at and put their hands

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on and test fire. You don't hear about any mass
shootings get gun shows for some reason. Coming up on
five twenty five, Gary Jeffinn for Brian, It's good to
be with you. Five one, three, seven, four nine fifty
five hundred is a telephone number of here upright and
early this morning. I'd love to hear from you. Breaking

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back on fifty five KRCV talk station.

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Speaker 4 (16:58):
Call eight four to four and we continue. I'm just
going through these news stories with these other shootings and
death in Cincinnati, and guy got taken in he's accused
of shooting his sister, and we've gone from neighbors to sisters. Cincinnati,

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maybe the new city of brotherly love or sisterly love
or whatever. Let's get back to this settlement that is
going to be paid by the City of Cincinnati, which means,
if you live in the city of Cincinnati and pay
taxes in the City of Cincinnati, by you eight point

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one million dollars. Just sad only class action lawsuit of
over four hundred protesters who were arrested in twenty during
the riots. The lawsuit talked about police brutality. If you

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put cuffs on somebody, or you hit a cop and
you are surprised and shocked that you were paid back
for that the officer defending themselves, I guess that's police brutality,
wrongful arrests, and inhumane jail conditions during the George Floyd

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protests in Cincinnati. Now the city is once again kowtowed
to the criminals and updated police procedures for handling protests
and mass arrest Remember when they blocked off I seventy five.
The Cincinnati FOP criticized the city for settling the case

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and dismissing charges against protesters, which seems reasonable. And as
I looked at this earlier, and I may have said
in the opening piece here, I think that the protesters
who got arrested and caused property damage and accosted police

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officers violently physically ought to be pay in the city,
not the other way around. The City of Cincinnati needs
to get better shyster lawyers than they have, like the
one that filed this class action on behalf of the
criminals from twenty twenty. Oh, Hamilton County's going to pony

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up too, So I don't think you're safe as a
but sixty five grand inhumane jail conditions. Producer Joe Strecker said, Yeah,
they're whining about inhumane jail conditions because they had to

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sit in processing and weren't allowed to go to the
bathroom or go get a sandwich while they were incarcerated
in Cincinnati. Certainly, it wasn't the center of the universe
when it came to the violent protests in twenty twenty.

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They happened here, but not like in other places. But
the lawsuit says that the arrests, along with the curfew
imposed by then Mayor John Cranleigh, violated people's constitutional rights.

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The curfew ran from May thirtieth to June eighth. What
about the people who didn't get arrested during the protests. Sorry, baby,
you're out had to show damage. During those that week
week and a half, approximately five hundred people were arrested

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charge of violating the curfew, and the city eventually dropped
those charges about curfew violations because the judges in Hamilton
County couldn't get it together and decide on a common course.

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Some judges found that the curfew was unconstitutional unenforceable, while
others declined to dismiss the charges, so they were at odds.
The cases went to a state appeals court, but the
city dismissed them before any decision was made at that
higher level. So anyway, they cause all of this chaos

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over a false narrative that happened four states away, and
the protesters that get paid God bless America. Good job Cincinnati.
And of course what that does is the next time
there's some nationwide cause to celeb, some fads, some trend

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that is breaking and going viral, and people in Cincinnati do,
monkey see monkey do and start acting like the idiots
and criminals in other cities. They know there are no
ultimate repercussions for breaking the law. In fact, this could

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be your pathway to receiving a payout someday with the
right lawyer and the right judge. That's what it does.
And it's no way, it's no way to run a city,

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a state, or a country for the majority of people
who just want to live in peace, be left alone
and go about their daily lives, take care of their families,
do their jobs, live in quiet neighborhoods, and laugh at

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the occasional idiot who passes by. Simple as that. Coming
up on five thirty five on this Monday morning, December eighth,
twenty twenty five, I'm Gary Jeff Walker in for Brian Thomas,
you or who you are, and that is perfectly fine
with me. Fifty five KRC the talk station. Just how
good is pure talk current deal for unlimited? So is

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this all there is? That's the eternal question of we
mere mortals who live very finite lives compared to the
timeline of history. Is this all there is? And you
hear about people who have near death experiences and they

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go through the tunnel into the light, they're surrounded by
loved ones, they claim to see Jesus. It goes to
the very question of do we all as human beings
have a soul. The Bible tells us that we do
an eternal soul beyond the flesh and blood of the body.

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According to doctor Michael Einer, I guess that's how you
pronounce it. It's eg Or maybe Egner, who is a
famous neurosurgeon. He says that we do have a soul
outside the brain, because a lot of people say NDEs

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near death experiences are nothing but the brain shutting down
as a body dies. But he says, not so fast.
Here's the quote from doctor Einer or Egner, who is
actually a neurosurgeon, a neuroscientist. He is a neurosurgeon. He

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may be a rocket scientist too, I don't know, he said.
And I quote neuroscientists to stand up and say we
have souls are far and few between. But when you
look carefully at the neuroscience, the best neuroscience over the
past century, it clearly points to the existence of the
soul and to the existence of aspects of our mind

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that do not come from the brain. And this is
a guy who wasn't something a Bible. He started off
as a materialist, an atheist, or what I like to
call a human secularist. But after forty years and more

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than seven thousand brain surgeries. He concluded that reason and
free will do not reside in the brain. Neuroscience is
just fundamentally wrong in a lot of ways because of
the materialist vices bias in neuroscience. We can't get away

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from this machine analogy. But we're not machines, and we
don't work like machines work, And there's overwhelming evidence in
neuroscience for the existence of a soul. This guy is
a professor of neurosurgery and pediatrics, a senior fellow at

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the Discovery Institute, and co author of the book The
Immortal Mind, a neurosurgeon's case for the existence of the soul.
So anyway, that's a neuroscientist who's saying, yeah, there's more

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than what's going on physically inside your body. There is
evidence in neuroscience from his experience. The brain's dead, the
soul lives on. That's what I believe. But now, science,

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real science, not consensus science or biased science, but open minded,
real experimentation, real curiosity and research. At least from this
one neurosurgeon's standpoint is showing that there's more than just

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this physicality in this realm. I just think that's fascinating
and it's affirming for me as a Christian. There's somebody
who's using science to prove the existence of more than

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what you see and feel in this life of God,
and that to me is very very exciting. I don't
know what about you, do you believe we have a
soul that has nothing to do with the mechanics of

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the brain, goes well beyond your heart, your liver, your
other bodily functions, the spinal fluid, and in your gray matter.
I just think it's very, very exciting to hear somebody
say that in the scientific community. Coming up on five

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forty five, Gary jeff In for Brian on fifty five
krc DE talk station, The Math on the City of
Cincinnati's settlement to the four hundred and seventy nine claimants.
The plaintiffs are going to receive, after lawyer's fees for

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a few hours of inconvenience because of your own actions,
they're each going to receive roughly twelve thousand, seven hundred
and thirty four. Well, the journeys on the on the
case will reap a benefit of two million dollars. Gosh,
you gotta love lawyers. That's why you listen to Brian.

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I guess let's go to the phones. Jay is on
the line. Good morning, Jay, you're on fifty five KRC.

Speaker 10 (30:18):
How are you, hey, I'm doing good, Good morning, Good morning, Hey.

Speaker 11 (30:22):
I wanted to build on your your story there about
the existence of a soul. I recently read guy by
the name of Jay Vernon McGee. He's a kind of
a Bible teacher, Bible scholar. He's been dead now since
nineteen eighty eight, but his teaching still go on, and
he just goes chapter by chapter, verse by verse through

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the Bible. And recently, coincidentally, he talked about that science
has been unable to really define the difference between the
mind and the buying, and goes on to talk about
that every seven years your body regenerates. Every cell in
your body regenerates into a new cell. So from a

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strictly scientific purpose that that would create a new being.
Yet inside of each one of us is something where
I am still here. The me that was me when
I was seven years old is still here and hasn't
changed along with my experiences and everything else. If it
was strictly science based and cells change, then I ought

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to be a new creation about every seven years. But
we all know that that's not true.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
Yeah, that's an excellent point. I've never heard of put
quite that way of a.

Speaker 11 (31:38):
Soul, that there's something bigger than just cells that are
clumped together that make up a life and a body.
And also to build on your point, that is this
all there is if you read the Bible, and I
would really encourage people this time of year Hebrews, Romans,
jude Amingulatians, it is if you strip back all of

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the ceremony and all the ritual and what we call religion,
what you need is Christ. You don't need to be baptized,
you don't need to take communion, you don't need to
go to confession. If those things move you closer to Christ, fine,
but the Bible is very clear that we are lost
sinners and the only thing that's going to get our

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soul to eternal heaven is Christ and accepting the gift
this year, that this time of year of being Christmas,
just simply accept the gift of He died in our place,
the substitutionary depth. Because we on our own there's nothing
with our own two hands that we can do to
earn our way into heaven. So if there's one message,

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yes there is a soul. I believe that to be
the case. Then the very next question is, well, where
am I going to spend eternity? And I just want
to share with the listeners what you need is faith
alone in Christ alone. Don't take my word for it.
Read Romans, Hebrews, Galatians. It's all through the Old Testament,
all through the New Testament. Do not get trapped up

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into all of this complexity of all these different doctrines
and dogmas and religions. Get into the front and back
cover of that Bible, and it is so much simpler
that you'll sleep so much better at night knowing, yes,
there is a future in heaven.

Speaker 12 (33:26):
Take the gifts.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
I agree with everything you just said, Jay, I believe this.
So praise Jesus for your contribution and your chiming in
this morning.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Give bat Man.

Speaker 11 (33:38):
I appreciate what you do.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Have a good day.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
Thank you so much. So people work extra hard. They
have to jump through so many hoops to prove there
isn't a God. I mean, they go a long way
around the truth to get people, to try to dissuade

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people from what Jay was just talking about. I mean,
they perform mighty calisthenics exercises for secularism for man, because
this is our existence now. But I believe, and Jay

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believes many others believe that now is not all there is,
and we're going to have to find another place. Each
individual person, not your flesh and blood, but your soul
is going to have to find a place and have

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a place to go when we're done with this wink
of an eye existence that we're living right now. I
just think that's fascinating. We could talk about all the morning,
but we won't. Necessarily, we are going to talk about
this settlement that the City of Cincinnati is ready to

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rubber stamp at the meeting tomorrow. Let's see what they say.
December night, there'll be a meeting and yeah, the City
Council's Public Safety and Governance Committee tomorrow. Eight point one
million paid to four hundred and seventy nine plaintiffs. Two

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million attorneys fees. Well, I don't know how many attorneys
worked on the case, but I bet there's not, you know,
more than a handful. They get the two mill and
the plaintiffs get about twelve thousand, seven hundred apiece just

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for getting arrested. I don't know, Sign me up, I
guess five point fifty five at fifty five krz the
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Fifty five krz the talk station head prophetic words from
John Lennon, who, forty five years ago on this date,

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December eighth, was shot and killed outside his Dakota apartment
building by a man named Mark David Chapman. The anniversary
of the death of an earthly icon. Six minutes past
the hour, Gary Jeff Walker and for Brian Thomas this
morning and joining us for a few minutes. My friend,

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who has made a an incredib career, built an incredible
career out of writing about the history of this area,
from the Mob and the people that controlled northern Kentucky
to Larry Flint, to the pioneers who settled here, to

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Cincinnati's role in freeing of the slaves. It's an amazing
piece body of work that he's put together, and now
he's taking readers on another magical history tour. That's the
title of his latest Peter Bronson joins us for a
few minutes. Hey, Pete, how are you.

Speaker 12 (37:41):
Peter, I thought maybe you'd play Magical History Tour as
we came out.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
Well, yeah, that's that's true. That's true. So tell me
you've been very busy again with a new book out.
This is a different kind of book than the other
history books you have written, but it still is along
the lines of historical notes and stories. These are five

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short stories. You and I have talked about this about
local history that's been buried in more ways than one. Absolutely,
so I know you probably talked to Brian about it,
but just refresh the listener's memories on what magical History
tours about.

Speaker 12 (38:30):
Yes, this is, as you pointed out, a collection of
five short stories. And I know that readers often like
a book that they can dip into, and our tension
spans aren't what they used to be always, So anyway,
this one has grave robbery, It has an adventure on
the Oregon Trail and the gold Rush.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
It has a.

Speaker 12 (38:50):
Story about Cincinnati's first serial killer, who incidentally was a woman,
and also the first woman's go to the electric chair.
And we have also a story about a couple of
Shaker women who were banished from the Whitewater village and
they showed up in Cincinnati for a week and then

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they were found in a hotel room dead.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
So there's a mystery, there's adventure, there's local history. Is
just so full of great treasures and stories that I
just loved get them endto it.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
You mentioned grave robbery, and this was actually very very
This was a lucrative business for people who were willing
to do it. Talk about the history of grave robbery
in Cincinnati.

Speaker 12 (39:38):
Well, just since I wrote this book, I was contacted
by someone who read it who was a great friend
of mine, Lieutenant Stephen Kramer at the Cincinnati Police Museum. Yeah,
and he pointed out that there was actually a custom
that was known as burking, and this was when you
killed someone so that you could sell the body. So

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there were grave robbers that were really in big business
in Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
In fact, it was a.

Speaker 12 (40:03):
Hub of grave robbery. They called them resurrection men or
body snatchers, and they would take the bodies and sell
them to the medical schools all over the Midwest, including
as far north as ann Arbor, Michigan. And they would.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Then also sell the clothes. So if you're looking for
a bargain suit, you might think that it smelled a
little funny.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
Oh, Lord of my word, so go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 12 (40:36):
Oh well, yeah, this one was about the story of
the President William Henry Harrison. His son John Scott Harrison
was buried and in eighteen seventy eight after a sudden
illness and death, and he was stolen from his grave
this same night. And this happened to be not just
the son of a president, but also the father of

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another president, Benjamin Harrison. So this is the only man
in US history who is the.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Father and who is the father of the president and
the son of the president.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
That's amazing. That's amazing. And when you do this, and
I've asked you this before, but I mean, are you
just flipping on your phone and searching things. You've got
to actually search through documents. When you're detailing these hidden stories,
I mean you have to do a lot of dive
in and deep dives. And you pride yourself in not

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having AI help you write any of your books.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
No, I do not use any assist I like the
old fashioned style of reporting, which is a lot easier
these days thanks to the web, and I'm able, but
I really love the research. It's fun to dive into
these things. And as you go deeper and deeper, you
find little kind of detours or side paths, and you

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follow that you find another treasure. So but there are, indeed,
as you point out, great resources. There's the National Archives.
There are first person accounts of a lot of these things.
The original newspaper stories are great for assist. And we
have preasures in.

Speaker 12 (42:11):
Cincinnati for research, including the archives in the at the
Museum Center, and that is a great source. And are
super staff of people down there for helping.

Speaker 4 (42:23):
I mean, is is that easy to access for just
the normal person? I mean, you're Peter Bronson for goodness sake.
But if Joe Smith wanted to go to the Museum
Center and and check out the archives, what kind of
process would you use if you're interested in something like that, I.

Speaker 12 (42:44):
Would suggest as call and make an appointment, and anybody
can go a lot of people use that and other
sources for genealogical research, ancestry so forth, or just finding
out about their neighborhood. But yeah, sure, they're very great people.
The librarians there are super helpful and it's pretty easy.

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But you know the thing is when you start to
do dig into some of this research, as the oak
Cleiche goes, it's like drinking out of a fire hose.
There will be so much information about these things that
you can't believe it. So just strap in and get
ready because the research is so much fun.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
Now, you had a couple of book signings over the weekend.
You've been very busy with that. Yes, and you have
an appointment with the ladies tomorrow. Tell me about that.

Speaker 10 (43:35):
Yes, I have a couple coming up I have Tomorrow
I will be speaking to the Northeast Republican Women at
the RSVP Center in Loveland, and then on Saturday, for
the general public, I will be doing a signing at Joseph.

Speaker 12 (43:52):
Beth Bookstore or jose Best Booksellers, I guess is the
proper name in Rookwood, and I will be there from
one to three along with two or three other local authors.
So that should be a good opportunity. If you want
to get a sign book as a gift for Christmas,
that's a great opportunity, or anytime somebody wants to go

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to my website. Right now, I'm doing a special on
free shipping until Christmas, and these books are all signed
from the website as well.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
Are you working on anything else right now now that
you've got this one.

Speaker 12 (44:24):
Finished, well right now, I'm working on working with various
clients my company Chili Dog Press, which is also the
website chillydogpress dot com. My company Chili Dog does titles
for other authors as well. I do about twelve to
fifteen titles a year, so I have about right now
about six books in various stages of coming in for

(44:47):
a landing for some of my author clients. That keeps
me pretty busy.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
I'm still working on my manuscript, Peter for the story
of the career of Gary Jeff Walker out. I'll get
it to you all.

Speaker 12 (45:00):
Right, Yeah, absolutely, I can help you. I just happen
to know a publisher do Yeah, yes, I too.

Speaker 4 (45:08):
It's Peter Bronson's latest magical history tour with five short
stories that will keep you turning the pages at chilidogpress
dot com. If you'd like a sign copy and time
for Christmas, Pete can make that happen. Thank you for
making this happen. It's always great to talk to you, Peter.

Speaker 12 (45:28):
Always a pleasure to be with you too. Gary Jeff.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
I hope you have a wonderful day.

Speaker 4 (45:32):
You two six fifteen at fifty five KRCV talk station
celebrate the season by giving the one you love something unforgettable.
Visit James Free dot com. Do you remember a man
named Robert Redfield? Back during the scamdemic, he was the
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Commissioner. He was part

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of the Coronavirus Task Force back in November of twenty
twenty and into the rest of what we all live through,
those of us who live through it. He says, now
COVID nineteen vaccines from Pfizer and Maderna should be pulled

(46:19):
from circulation. I really would like to see the mRNA
vaccine use curtailed, and personally, I'd like to see it
eliminated because I think there's too many unknowns. Pfizer and

(46:39):
Maderna vaccines against COVID nineteen utilized messenger ribu nucleic acid.
We've all heard of mRNA by now, right, and they
were the first vaccines or what I call vax genes
because it's really gene therapy, not a vaccine to receive

(46:59):
clears when the regulators authorized them in late twenty twenty.
During the pandemic, he was the director. Redfield was of
the CDC from March to twenty eighteen through January twenty
twenty twenty one, the end of President Trump's first term.

(47:20):
He says he's been treating patients who have so called
long COVID as well as people suffering from vaccine injuries.
He says he still favors a protein based COVID nineteen
vaccine from Novavax, but no longer advises that receiving the

(47:40):
mRNA shots, even though he thinks they prevented deaths among
seniors early on. I don't advocate mRNA vaccines anymore because
as you get to the idea of vaccine injury, when
I give you an mRNA vaccine, what I do is
turn your body into a spike protein production factory. You know,

(48:05):
and in all honesty, and mRNA vaccines had been in
development a long time before the pandemic kicked in. We
know this because Fauci was working on them. And we
know this because we also know taxpayer money from the

(48:30):
United States is being used at the virology lab in
Wuhan for gain of function research that led to COVID
nineteen itself, which was a man made virus in a
lab that escaped from the lab, which many of us
suspected at the time, and now we've been proven to

(48:52):
be correct and vindicated for saying those things that people
at the time who were following the narrative and just
parroting whatever China and the Biden administration put out about
it because they were threatened if they didn't toe the line.

(49:15):
But there's no way to know what these possible injuries
are going to be like at the time that everyone's
panicked and scared to death that the virus Boogeyman is
hiding underneath their bed and you can come within six
feet of someone and catch this dread disease that there's

(49:37):
no cure for, and all the other things that we
were spoon fed to rush us into a panic and
to make us adhere to the draconian mandates and restrictions
and closures everything that we went through. So there's no

(49:59):
way to you know what the vaccine injuries are going
to be long term until you've got some time behind it.
We've had plenty of time now, and we see that
in many cases across them from embalmers who have studied
case after case after case of the bodies they're working

(50:20):
on with these large white fibrous clots that were never
seen before in dead bodies, almost never seen before the
introduction of the COVID nineteen vaccine, the mRNAs. We are
seeing that children who were at no risk from COVID
nineteen have died because of the vaccine. We've seen all

(50:47):
of that. So now Robert Redfield, who led the charge
during the first Trump administration to get the vaccines rolled out,
says now, lo and behold, the mRNA is really not
a good idea because it absolutely, in many ways, tragically

(51:16):
changes the human body. Man. I'm still glad I didn't
get any of the jabs. Six twenty five at fifty
five KRC, the talk station, hiy is Brian Thomas here
for Foreign Exchange and I've been endorsing foreign extant the
talk station. Oh how appropriate. You didn't even know I

(51:42):
was going to talk about this. Thank you, Joe Strecker
a little shotgun. On a Monday morning at six thirty
Gary jeff In for Brian Thomas on the morning show.
I'm fifty five KRC, the talk station that was for
Tony Bender was going to talk to the hero of

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Sutherland Springs, Texas. Sutherland Springs, Texas. You may remember Stephen Williford.
He was the grandfather who heard the gunshots going off
at the church just down the road from his house
and grabbed his rifle and chased the sucker down, finally

(52:32):
apprehending neutralizing the threat. Because he had the right to
own and bear firearms in Texas. He's become a spokesperson
for the gun owners of America and he's a great
guy to talk to. It the shame he didn't answer
his phone this morning, but I was going to talk

(52:56):
to him about HB thirty eight. And maybe you've talked
about it, maybe you know about it. If you're a
second amendments, I wouldn't call a fanatic if you believe
in the Bill of Rights and your right to own
and bear firearms and that it shall not be infringed
by the government as I do. HB thirty eight basically

(53:22):
refers to the Federal Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act. This is
a bill that aims to allow you with a valid
concealed carry permit from your state to carry a handgun
in other states, preempting those state laws and establishing a
national standard. The Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of twenty

(53:49):
twenty five so the federal HB thirty I I know
there's HB thirty eight's in the Ohio House, and that's
totally different. This is in the House of Representatives. It
creates a national standard for concealed carry, allowing eligible permit

(54:11):
holders from one state to carry in others. That concealed carry,
requires permit holders to carry an ID, be federally eligible
to possess firearms, and allows for property owners to still
prohibit guns if they so desire. It was introduced just

(54:34):
a couple of months ago, placed on a Union calendar.
But will they have the courage, the Cahunas to literally
stand by their guns and fire away at this when

(54:57):
they can't even fully fund the federal government. By the way,
that is coming up again after we live through the
shutdown that the Democrats were in charge of. So they're

(55:17):
arguing over the Obamacare tax subsidies again and the subsidized
healthcare for about seven percent of the country. It's about
twenty four million people that are on the Obamacare lists
the exchanges, and you know, healthcare premiums are going to

(55:41):
be skyrocketing here primarily because of Obamacare and the bailout
of the insurance companies. I always hear the Republicans talking
about a plan that they have. The Democrats' plan is
just to continue the subsidies for another full year, kick

(56:03):
the can down the road again, hoping that that somehow,
someway they will find a way to make this kind
of fraud permanent. And there is absolute, abject fraud. All

(56:23):
you got to look is the fraud Minnesota Medicare and
Medicaid subsidies just one piece of that over one billion
dollars that went to Somali terrorists courtesy of the government
of Minnesota. But it's happening nationwide. And if these Obamacare

(56:43):
the way they are now, if they're allowed to extend
for another year, the Democrats don't have a plan to
address the fraud that is rife with any government obese
government program, and any subsidies that they're paying from one
pocket out of one pocket to another pocket, to another

(57:06):
person's pocket. But do the Republicans have a plan. We've
heard of the healthcare accounts that people can start with
and just giving people money directly instead of to the
insurance companies, but nothing that says, Okay, we've got a

(57:29):
plan to make affordable health care a reality. For a
majority of Americans not seen it yet they say they do,
but then where's the proof? So neither side's a winner
here is if you're looking at political parties and the

(57:51):
healthcare debate. But the Democrats will introduce keeping things the same,
keeping the fraud and the the same as it's been
through the continuance of the Obamaare Obamacare subsidies the Unaffordable
Careless Act as I like to call it at the time,
and still do or will the Republicans actually come up

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with something with the President's help to bring costs down?
Yet to be determined. Coming upon six thirty seven fifty
five krs DE talk station.

Speaker 5 (58:30):
Your holiday to do list?

Speaker 3 (58:32):
Can you launch?

Speaker 4 (58:33):
Well? Well, well, how are you doing this morning?

Speaker 1 (58:36):
Me?

Speaker 4 (58:37):
I'm a little concerned, and I'm concerned for myself because
the last I don't know, three four days have been
especially concerning for me because I can't seem to keep

(58:57):
track of my phone. Now, there have been plenty of
times that if I had my choice, I would just
leave my phone at home and not take it with
me and be tethered to the outside world every waking moment.
That would be a dream. Because of work, my emails

(59:20):
on my phone. My contacts are on my phone. I
used to be able to memorize phone numbers and all
I had to do was dial it or see it
a few times, and it was burned into my brain.
But you know, as well as I do that with
the people you talk to most often, those people are

(59:43):
already in your phone under their names, so there's no
cause to remember numbers on your phone. Well, after the
last three or four days, I'm seriously thinking about create
wading a hard copy on paper with all of the

(01:00:05):
numbers of the people that are important to me work
wise or personally. Friday, I got up in the morning
before my other job, and I do work a couple
of jobs. Really getting too old for this kind of thing.
And here's an illustration of how I'm getting too old

(01:00:25):
for this kind of thing. Got up Friday morning, early
early for me on a day that I don't have
to be up on the radio at six o'clock in
the morning or whatever. Early for me is like eight o'clock.
I got up at eight o'clock, have to work at
ten thirty eleven, have time to go to the store.
Needed to go to the grocery store, so I went

(01:00:48):
to pick up a few items set up for the weekend,
and I had my phone with me, and in the
middle of the store, I pulled my phone out because
I wanted to check a recipe, and I was pulled
off to the side. I'm not one of those annoying
people that are in the middle of the aisle on
their phone and not paying attention and in everybody's way.

(01:01:09):
I made sure that I pulled off to the side
because I saw something that I wanted to purchase. I
wanted to make sure that if I purchased this item
happened to be beef short ribs, that I had a
recipe that I could because I'd never really cooked beef
short ribs before. So I'm checking the recipe for b OH.
I like this one uses guinness to help raise the

(01:01:32):
short ribs, very nice, and the myriad of other ingredients. Anyway,
I look at the recipe, I pick up the short
ribs who are on sale, put them in the cart,
and put my phone at the top of the shopping cart.
You know, it's kind of a little there's a little desk

(01:01:52):
kind of there where you push the cart right below
that perfect size, perfect size for an iPhone. It there
went through the checkout, all my groceries, got to my car,
and I I had to have left my phone there
in the cart, in the rack outside of Kroger. I

(01:02:14):
get home, I can't find my phone. I'm running through
the house screaming like a madman because I know that
I don't have my phone and I must have left
it in the cart at Kroger. I immediately drove back.
This is this by By this time, it's like nine thirty,

(01:02:35):
so I'm running out of time before I be at work.
Get to the Kroger. Now nobody turned in a phone
went to the customer service desk. So I went back home,
and this time I'm really panicked. I mean, my whole
life is in this phone. It's ridiculous. You may relate
to this. So ten fifteen, I've still got time to

(01:03:00):
go buy the Kroger and just see if they've turned
in a phone. I get into the parking lot near
where I was parked before. I see one of the
cart jockeys, one of the kindly people who bring the
carts back inside the store for the next customer to use.
I said, you didn't happen to find an iPhone, did you?
He said, what color was the case? Instantly the light bulb,

(01:03:23):
He's got my phone. He had my phone, I said, blue.
Otter box kind of tore up on the end, he said,
I just turned it into the customer service desk. Yes,
thank god, my day was saved. I found my phone
that I just casually left in the shopping car. You
may have done this before next day. I have to

(01:03:47):
be at work on the radio on Saturday morning. I
thought I left my phone at home and I needed
it for a few key things while I was on
the air. Didn't have my phone. Went out, looked in
my car, no phone calling my wife? Is my phone there?
She can't find the phone at home. Went back down,

(01:04:09):
and I'd forgotten that i'd put it in the seat,
didn't have the case on it, so I couldn't easily
recognize that a phone was underneath an envelope in the
passenger seat of the car. So two days in a row,
this is why I'm concerned. Two days in a row,
I have just kind of forgotten where I laid my
phone down. And it's this kind of stuff is happening

(01:04:31):
more and more often. Should I be concerned? That's my
question to you. If you listen to that whole diatribe.
Should you be concerned? Probably a better question, Gary Jeffan
for Brian Thomas this morning on fifty five KOC, the
talk station. AH. It's the holiday season now disarmed the population,

(01:04:53):
so it was easy for the Jihatas to take over
cities like London and the woke mayor. While it has
subsided under President Trump's second term through the power of
the American people rejecting it, for the most part, woke
is still running amok in the UK. It's talking about

(01:05:18):
our Second Amendment rights that we enjoy in this country. Well,
they're challenged and threatened and still are in many states
and many jurisdictions. But overall, we have the right to
own and bear firearms in this country, the country we
broke away from in a bloody revolutionary war. However, trying

(01:05:41):
to maintain they're under our thumb mentality on the citizenry
of Great Britain. You may have seen this story. A
British IT consultant faced arrest and multiple charges when he
got back home. He was on holiday, as the Brits

(01:06:05):
say in America, in Florida, and because he online posted
a picture of him obviously at a gun range. She's
got the noise canceling headphones on in the picture holding
and firing a rifle. Police when he got back to

(01:06:28):
Great Britain, because he made this post online, seized all
his devices, sparking debate on UK social media policy at
public order laws. They can arrest you in Great Britain
if you post a meme making fun of a politician,

(01:06:51):
or a meme making fun or not exercising what in
their minds is a popular opinion on transgenderism, on the
fact that there are only two sexes, which is scientifically true,
psychologically true too. No matter what you think, you may

(01:07:14):
have a mental defect. But anyway, in Great Britain, it
was just a story that did not enrage me like
enraged Elon Musk at the time. And by the way,
the charges were finally dropped due to lack of evidence
against this guy. Good for him, but he wasn't even
in England. He was in America, where we enjoy freedom

(01:07:38):
and liberty, the reason we fought a seven and a
half year war to break away from the monarchy and
the authoritarian government of Great Britain. But anyway, the charges
dropped against John Richelieu booth and that's a good thing.

(01:08:05):
But I mean, this is the kind of place that
Rosie O'Donnell and until they decided that the winners were
too cold. Ellen DeGeneres and her partner Portia moved there

(01:08:25):
because they couldn't stand the fact that we had a
king now in Donald Trump. And they'd probably be all
in favor of this guy getting busted for posting a
picture online of him shooting a gun where it's perfectly
legal and safe for him to do it. Amazing stuff.
Ken Coober from the Cincinnati FOP the pres we'll talk

(01:08:51):
about Cincinnati's eight point one million dollar settlement to George
Floyd protesters and further inhibiting the police's ability to do
their job and keep the public safe. That's all coming
up after the top of the hour. It's six fifty five.

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There's Johnny seven oh six, Gary Jeff Walker in for
Brian Thomas this morning on fifty five KRS the talk station.
Joining us in this segment is President of the Cincinnati
Fraternal Order of Police Ken Kober, to talk about the
City of Cincinnati's eight point one million dollars of the

(01:10:02):
George Floyd protesters. You remember all the fun we had
back in twenty twenty and Cincinnati, same fun they were
having around the country with people I don't doing really
really constitutionally protected things like blocking commerce in I seventy five,
or blocking someone's path to work, or breaking windows, property damage,

(01:10:29):
resisting arrest, Yeah, throwing urine bottles at the police, the
whole PLM shakedown, which is what it proved to be.
And the shaking is not done. They're still shaking them down,

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and the courts you're saying, and the City of Cincinnati
is saying, hey, we enjoy giving away taxpayer money to
criminals and also changing the way police can handle protests
in the city of Cincinnati. To talk about all that again,
Cincinnati FOP President Ken Kober joins us. Good morning, Ken,

(01:11:10):
how are we doing and are you looking forward to
the rubber stamp that the city will give tomorrow to
the people that broke the law in twenty twenty during
the summer of.

Speaker 13 (01:11:20):
Eight Hey, good morning, thanks for having me. First of all,
that was not a protest. I was out there on
the front lines having rocks and bottlestone out us.

Speaker 14 (01:11:28):
Those were riots. They could call them whatever they want.
That was an absolutely that.

Speaker 4 (01:11:33):
Was a riot. Yeah, no question. And I do remember
famously of the protesters marching out on I seventy five
and blocking the interstate.

Speaker 13 (01:11:46):
You know, it's one of these things that it just
shows that a crime does pay in Cincinnati, and this
was a perfect example of that.

Speaker 9 (01:11:53):
But this was an epic failure by the law department.

Speaker 13 (01:11:56):
You know, anytime we have something like this occur where
there's going to be mass arrests, the law departments involved.
They're the ones that advise the police department what we're
going to charge these people with. Unfortunately, some of the
ordinances that they had on the books were absolutely antiquated,
which is why now we have a problem with.

Speaker 9 (01:12:12):
Even prosecuting these people. So what do they do.

Speaker 13 (01:12:14):
They dismissed the charges and then what follows it, of course,
a lawsuit, and that's where we're at.

Speaker 9 (01:12:19):
Unfortunately.

Speaker 4 (01:12:20):
Yeah, But any anyway, the rumor is, and I don't
know what you know about this, Ken, the rumor is
that they've been they've been certain they were going to
do this. City council has been certain they're going to
do this, and we're before the election, but they never

(01:12:42):
brought that up until they made sure their butts were
safe in the seats and the voter didn't know about
it until now. Is that a true assessment?

Speaker 14 (01:12:55):
Sure?

Speaker 9 (01:12:56):
This has been going on for a year and a half.

Speaker 13 (01:12:57):
I know originally I sat in a meeting with the
Solicitors Office, the police chief, a bunch of city officials.
This would have been last ball August September last year.

Speaker 9 (01:13:09):
So yeah, this is this has been going on. We
know it's been.

Speaker 13 (01:13:11):
Going on, and it's just it's one of these things where,
you know, do I think it was a smart financial decision? Now, yeah,
it actually was because the city had a lot more
to lose. However, where the failure started was in twenty
twenty when they're they're absolutely tell the police to charge
these people.

Speaker 9 (01:13:31):
With wrong crimes. But like I said, in these.

Speaker 13 (01:13:34):
Situations, the police go out there, you know, and Mayor Cranley,
I'll give him all the credit in the world.

Speaker 9 (01:13:38):
He told the police department, make sure the city.

Speaker 13 (01:13:39):
Doesn't burn down. It's exactly what these men and women did.
It went out, made sure that the city was safe.
That you know, property was protected, life was protected. But
you know, the failure, of course was from city Hall,
which isn't a surprise to many.

Speaker 4 (01:13:52):
Well, and I remember at the time thinking to myself,
with the riots that were going on in Cincinnati, I said, boy,
at least we're not like Seattle. At least we're not
like Portland. And I think that John Cranley and the
police did a fantastic job of keeping Cincinnati from as

(01:14:13):
you say, burning, And well, there was obviously violence and
breaking of laws. Maybe they were charged with the wrong laws.
I don't know. Do you believe Cheryl Long when she
says that she's especially proud of our CPD officers. Does

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she act like she's proud of our CPD officers on
a regular basis?

Speaker 14 (01:14:40):
You know, that's the hard part is words are one thing,
actions or another.

Speaker 13 (01:14:45):
And this has always been my criticism as they will
stand in front of the camera and say how much
they support the police, but then you see things.

Speaker 9 (01:14:52):
Like this happen.

Speaker 13 (01:14:53):
And not all of this is on the current administration
because it was a different administration back then, but the
message is still clearer. Crime does pay in Cincinnati. And
what I fear is the next time some nonsense like
this happens, it's going to further embolden people to do
even more violent things. But you're gonna put cops in
even more danger, and then what's the end result. They're

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gonna fumble again, and before you know it, we're going
to be.

Speaker 9 (01:15:16):
Paying out more criminals for this.

Speaker 13 (01:15:18):
I'll be honest, if I would have known, if I'd
have had the hindsight to see in twenty twenty that
they were going to be paying these people on average
of thirteen thousand dollars a person to go and get
arrested and sit in a jail for three or four hours,
I'd have had my wife and kids go down there,
no doubt.

Speaker 9 (01:15:33):
I mean, that's I mean, it was ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (01:15:36):
Yeah, it's twelve I figured it out earlier. It's four
hundred and seventy nine Playton plaintiffs six point what one
million goes to the plaintiffs, two million goes to the lawyers, which,
as we know, that's that racket continues to rack it.
You know, maybe you should teach your kids to go
to law school, Ken because they're going to get a

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lot more than the planeiffs. But yeah, twelve seven hundred
something a person for a few hours of work and
not honest work at that.

Speaker 13 (01:16:12):
The one thing I will say though, and I was
sitting at that sally port with a couple one hundred
people waiting for these prisoners to be processed, and the.

Speaker 9 (01:16:20):
One thing stands true.

Speaker 13 (01:16:22):
As these people started talking about Cincinnati, and they're like, listen,
as soon as we get out of jail, we're leaving here.
We're gonna go to Columbus, We're gonna go to Indianapolis.
They're not arresting people in those cities. So by the
end of the day, say what you want about what occurred,
the one thing that is absolutely true is the police
department kept this place from burning down. Oh yeah, And

(01:16:44):
I'm sure that these people would have done more than
eight million dollars worth of damage. So while it is this,
it's disappointing, it's disgusting that they're paying these people. The
city had a lot more to lose than eight million dollars.
If the police department would not have been there on
the front line is doing exactly what they did.

Speaker 4 (01:17:01):
As part of this settlement, there's a guidebook created or
going to be created, which in quote standardizes and formalizes
police operations during protests. What what do you think of
this guide book? And one of the attorneys in the case,

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Jacqueline Green, said the policy changes will benefit everyone, including
police officers, who now have clear guidance on how to
engage with large groups of people and and what does
those what are those guidelines entail? One of the ways
to uh engage with large groups of people is to

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let them burn the city. I mean if that we've
gone to from arresting them, maybe on the wrong charges,
to just letting them do whatever they want.

Speaker 14 (01:17:55):
Well, let me tell you about this these policy changes.

Speaker 13 (01:17:58):
Yeah, I would like to know what they are, because
I could tell you right now there are none. The
Cincinnati Police Department, our Civil Disturbance Response Team is one
of the best in the country. They deal with these
people that come out and protest nearly every week during
the summertime. They do a fantastic job and very very
seldom do they ever have any issues. Now this guidebook,

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all they're doing is taking what they were already doing
and putting it at a centralized location. One of the
things that I did think it was interesting that this
ambulance chasing attorney brought up was that in the.

Speaker 14 (01:18:30):
Future, the police department should notify the jail in case
of mass arrest.

Speaker 9 (01:18:35):
I already have that procedure.

Speaker 13 (01:18:36):
But what I think is important is we would love
to if these people say, hey, listen, we're going to
come here this weekend. We're going to try to burn
your city down. If you give us advance notice, we'll
be happy to give the jail advanced notice that we're
going to be bringing in two or three hundred people
that are trying to create destruction. So if they want
to give us advanced notice, we'll be happy to let
the jail know. I mean, it's just that is one

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of the most ridiculous things that I've or.

Speaker 9 (01:19:00):
We need this change. We need to let.

Speaker 13 (01:19:01):
Us know that you're going to arrest a bunch of people.
I mean, we had no idea that they were going
to come and try to burn our city down, but
we took care of it when the time came.

Speaker 4 (01:19:10):
It is the problem, uh, the people that were just
reelected is the problem the city attorney or the city
manager is where's the problem lie in your in your opinion.

Speaker 13 (01:19:25):
Well, this all came from the law department, and they
said these were decisions that were made in twenty twenty
and now we're facing the consequences of poor decisions that
were made by our law department. That's what this all
comes down to. It's not about our policies and procedures.
Because they went out, they said it was other than
the first two nights, it got squashed pretty quick and

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the rest of it was just people who refused to
go home. Yeah, they enacted a curfew. You know, you
had some bad actors during the day. If you saw
what went on, people were protesting, the police stood there,
they allowed them to protest, and it was primarily peaceful
during the day. The problem is as soon as it
got to be nighttime, then all the bad actors came
out and they're all the ones that went to jail.

Speaker 4 (01:20:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:20:08):
Well, I don't have a problem with any of that.

Speaker 4 (01:20:11):
You know, there are people who are just exhibiting and
their rights to redress grievances with the government whatever things
that the constitution guarantees ken and then there are the
people that are criminals who commit crime for the sake
they they're opportunists, and they're parasites on society, and they

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should be put in their place, which is usually jail
at times like this. Keep up the good fight, man.
It's good to talk to you this morning. Thanks for yours.

Speaker 9 (01:20:43):
Likewise, thanks for having me.

Speaker 4 (01:20:44):
You got it. Seven seventeen at fifty five KRC. The
talk station Prestige Interiors has been proving the Way Family,
the FOP president on the city's eight point one million
dollars settlement with protesters twenty twenty and new police guidelines.

(01:21:05):
And I asked can Kober where he laid the blame
for all of this, and he said, the law department
of the City of Cincinnati. Well, a guy was a
vice vice mayor at the time during the John Cranley
administration and had a lot to do with law and
public safety. Is with us on the phone to respond

(01:21:27):
to that and to talk about the city settlement and
why it is hurtful going forward for the citizens of
Cincinnati if he believes it is. Chris Smitherman, good morning,
How are you, my friend?

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
Good morning, my friend, how are you doing.

Speaker 4 (01:21:44):
I'm good. It's good to talk to. It's been quite
a while.

Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
It has been as nice to hear your voice, and
I've been listening to your show. You know, I want
to start off with just say Merry Christmas to you.
Thank you, and you know, I get a lot of
I get a lot of happy Holidays, and I never
thought I would live to see that even saying Merry
Christmas was controversial at any level.

Speaker 4 (01:22:07):
Listen, I will, I will. I want to stop you
right there, Chris, because and you're right, I say Merry
Christmas all the time, but if you say happy holidays,
Christmas is a holy day and that's where the word
holidays comes from. So what I say if somebody tells
me happy Holidays and instead of Merry Christmas, I say back,

(01:22:29):
happy Holy Days because it is a holy day. So
that's the way. That's the way I get around that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
You know, Well, that's okay, you know that, and that's
that's awesome. I just you know, from my point to you,
I think wishing you a merry Christmas, and wishing anybody
that I'm talking to a merry Christmas, no matter where
they are, whether they're agnostic or atheist or even another religion.
Because this is my faith, and I'm pronouncing that, you know,

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people will say, people will say Happy Hanukah to me,
you know, and I'm not Jewish. So the reality is
I don't have a problem wishing anybody Merry Christmas and
I and I just know that this was one of
those small undermining steps because I've been listening to your
show and I really appreciated the caller who called it

(01:23:22):
and said, hey, the way to heaven is just accept
Jesus Christ as your personal savior. Period. I agree. But
it's these small steps that are happening in our country,
like no prayer in the school, you know, taking God
out of the anthem, you know, things like merry Christmas.
And this is bad to say because these are things

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that are being taught to our children. That's saying Merry
Christmas is not being respectful. It's not the politically correct
thing to do. So all I'm pushing back on, you know,
at my tender age is just to say Merry Christmas
to you, and Merry Christmas to anybody who is listening.
And I am very fine with anybody saying Merry Christmas

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to me.

Speaker 4 (01:24:05):
Oh absolutely, me too. Praise the Lord, Merry Christmas, and
I'll tell you what, if God is an underdog in
this society, my money's on God. I'll tell you that
right now. So don't don't act like don't act like
God's not gonna win, because he always will. And in

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this battle too.

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
He always he always wins. And that's why it's so
important for believers to speak up and say Mary Christmas,
because when we get to those pearly gates, whatever they
look like. I want to be one of those people
that said I made sure that I praised you, that

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I didn't water down your birthday. And I was able
to look somebody in the eye who was a non believer,
someone who was a believer, somebody who was in a
different religion, whatever it was, and I was able to say,
and I would say Easter and Christmas. There are arguments
of which one is most important, him rising from the

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dead on the third day or his birthday. But at
the end of the day, I wanted to start our program,
and this spleens it by making it very clear, Merry Christmas,
Gary jeff Man, and I don't even have to say
Happy New Year, but Merry Christmas.

Speaker 4 (01:25:27):
No, Merry Christmas is enough. Oh Come Emmanuel, which means
God with us, and that's the point. Hey Christmas, Chris Smiderman,
We'll take a break and come back and we'll we'll
get into some real spleen vent material when we return.
On fifty five kr CV talk station, A Minute of
Hope is brought to you by the lender Center of

(01:25:48):
Hope talking to Chris Smitherman, a Monday spleen ventch is
in order seven to twenty eight. Well, Chris, I I
love to say this. The floor is yours.

Speaker 5 (01:26:05):
This morning.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
Thank you, Thank you. Brother. Let me say that the
eight point one million dollar settlement. I think it's important
for the President of the FOP, for the police Department
and your listening audience to focus in on the word settlement,
meaning the city didn't have to settle Gary Jeff. We
could have gone to trial. If I were the mayor,

(01:26:28):
I would have gone the trial and allowed a jury
of the city's peers to determine whether those who had
broken windows, thrown yurin on police officers, those who broke
the law, someone who shot a police officer in the
head we had a ballistic helmet on, who would be
dead if they did not have a ballistic helmet on
that I would have taken this to trial. And so

(01:26:50):
this was a mayor who doesn't have a spleen. This
guy did not stand up because he's playing politics with
all of us. He's looking to his next election. He
didn't want to send the message to those who were
protesting as a part of his base. I'm going to
take you to trial, put you on the stand, and

(01:27:11):
ask you what you did. So remember this is called
a settlement. The mayor, nor the manager, nor the city
solicitor had to settle anything. You are very correct that
the mayor hit the football like Charlie Brown. He was
hiding the dog on football from us during this election.

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They knew that they had already come to the determination
of a settlement and not going to trial to focus
on that. It doesn't matter. They should have allowed a
jury of their peers, a jury of the city's peers
in southwest Ohio, to determine whether the riots that were
happening in downtown were legal or not. But what we

(01:27:53):
do is we've got all these conversations, so we don't
want to do proactive policing. We're not talking about peaceful protest.
We're talking about people who did things that caused our
officers to arrest them, and they absolutely are being rewarded, period.
But this is about a settlement. You know. This is
like you know, if people get this, like everyday people

(01:28:16):
understand this. It's like the mayor waking up in his
car is repolled twice once at least in front of
city Hall. This is a guy that doesn't even know
how to manage his own checkbook, let alone the billion
dollar checkbook of the City of Cincinnati. So I'm not
surprised that he would say I'm not worried about it
because we'll just issue some judgment bonds, kick twelve thousand

(01:28:39):
dollars to each person, wish them, I don't know, happy holiday,
and keep it moving. But that's what's wrong with city Hall.
And everybody down in city Hall is on the same team.
They will all coach sign on it. There will be
no descent on the settlement, meaning a member of council

(01:28:59):
could right descent. I did many descent when I was
a council They the mayor can't stop the descent. He
has to put the descent in and attach it.

Speaker 10 (01:29:10):
To the vote.

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
You won't have anybody on this council the dissent on
settling the case. Absolutely, a member of councilors can say
this is the wrong decision for the taxpayers. We should
have gone the trial. But that's the problem. I agree
with with with the with the president of the FOP
that this lies in the heart of our city solicitor's office.

(01:29:32):
But who's telling the city solicitor to settle the case.
It's the mayor, it's the guy whose car was repolled.
By the way, every elected official, including me, has to
file a financial report to the State of Ohio. Everybody
should be calling in or writing in to to Columbus,
to the Ethics Commission, asking did this mayor disclose he

(01:29:56):
had any impairments, any judgments against him when he file
those reports over the last two years, because he should
have disclosed them to the State of Ohio. Now they're
not going to do a big thing about it. They're
not going to be it's not going to be a bit.
But the bottom line is that these are the kinds
of things that should be on the report, Gary Jeff,
because it tells you that our mayor is impaired, Meaning

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a mayor that is facing financial issues can be bribed,
He can jeopardize votes, he could move things in directions
in order for him to make get contributions to his
campaign or bribery, which by the way, City Hall has experienced.
So you want to know that your mayor, that members
of council don't have judgments against them, they're not impaired,

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because that means every developer, anybody in the in the
city who's doing business with the City of Cincinnati knows
that this mayor can't pay his own personal bills. That's
why you're supposed to disclose it to the state of Ohio.
So yes, I can talk about the eight point one million,
is about the settlement. It's at outrageous. I can say
that John Cranley did an excellent job in keeping our

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city safe during that period of time. And I can
also say that John Cranley never had financial issues. He
always focused on trying to come with a balance budget.
And this mayor continues to fail us. And by the way,
in closing on this segment, we should have known about
those repossessions. We should have known that his cars were
being reposd prior to the election. We should have known

(01:31:27):
about this settlement prior to the elections. But guess what
voters elections have consequences.

Speaker 4 (01:31:36):
Malfeasansa is no stranger, and we can keep going for
a few more minutes. Chris Joe tells me, we've got
the green light for more time, if you've got more time.
But malfeasans is no new thing in the City of Cincinnati.
You know, by AFTEP pure vall standard, Liz Rogers could
be mayor. I mean after she after she had two bankruptcies,

(01:32:01):
and they gave her a restaurant at the banks.

Speaker 2 (01:32:05):
So that the matter of fact, look, that was one
of those deals that I voted know on, I got
a lot of pushback by some African American voters in
the City of Cincinnati. But ultimately, let me make it clear,
the city, No, the city didn't get their money back,

(01:32:26):
which is what we were told. So that's number one,
and there's no one on council that will ever ask
about it. Period number two that the city didn't shut
her down, Gary Jeff It was the state of Ohio.
It was the same issue that she was experiencing in Hamilton,
which is taking your sales tax, not surrendering it to

(01:32:47):
the state, and then using that to cash flow the
operation of the business. So ultimately they said, hey, when
you collect the sales tax, turn it into us. She
wasn't doing that. They came downtown and put notices on
her doors and change on her door. So to the public,
people were saying, oh man, the city councils shut her

(01:33:08):
down the city. That's not what happened. That state of
Ohio shut that business down for failure to turn over
her sales tax to them. That's it. It's not complicated.
This was a person who obviously had trouble running a business.
You're right, that's another example, and we can give many
examples over the years of the city hall trying to

(01:33:29):
pick winners and losers. But at the end of the day,
it's rare to have a sitting mayor have their cars
reposed and at the same time do a settlement of
eight point one million dollars and tell the citizens that
was our only choice. It wasn't we could have gone
to trial. It is exactly what we should have done.

Speaker 4 (01:33:49):
One point seven million Americans have their cars repossessed on
any regular basis every year in this country. Chris. But
my question is, and there are so many reasons why
that you know that this could be possible, why this
could happen, What is Mayor Purevoll's salary as mayor, it's it's.

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
Pretty I have a guessing around one hundred and twenty
five thousand a year. It's probably meant in about eight
eight or eight or eighty five hundred dollars every single month, right,
something that most citizens will never see in their lifetime.

Speaker 4 (01:34:20):
Right. And I guess the navigator maybe it was costing
him about five or six hundred a month max. I
understand if somebody has a medical emergency or there's some
issue that just occurs out of the blue. But because
you are careless and mess up an auto pay for

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one month, the repo company, the finance company doesn't come
and take your car away. This happened, This had to
happen over at least a three month period. It's usually
ninety days, and they will make every attempt to contact
you in the interim to tell you were interrears with

(01:35:04):
your car payment. So he was notified, he knew about it.
It wasn't carelessness. He just didn't pay for three months, right, So.

Speaker 15 (01:35:15):
They at least three months, at least three months, because
it could have been four or five months, and they
knew that was the mayor, right, So you know that
they were trying to be as costs as they possibly
could be. And so you are so right, Gary Jeff.
You know, for him to do an interview and act

(01:35:35):
like this is a thirty day scenario, he obviously was
not telling the truth. Period.

Speaker 4 (01:35:43):
I mean my period. Even my cable company even gives
me as much money as I'm paying them, and I'm
not happy about that, that's my fault. But my cable
company even gives me a fifteen day grace period to
pay my bill and there's no late fee.

Speaker 2 (01:35:58):
Yeah, okay, think about every citizen out there who's watching
this council raise their taxes right whatever it is, or
advocate for raising their taxes, their property taxes, city taxes, fees,
whatever they are.

Speaker 4 (01:36:15):
A brand new fee, brand new feed just went a
new effect in certain places, from restaurants and hotels.

Speaker 2 (01:36:22):
That's right. So as we're processing this, the everyday person,
let's make it real, gets up every day, goes to work,
balances out their checkbook, lives within their budget for forty years, retires,
then lives on some retirement and social security, and they
still pay their bills. They're paying for their medicine, everything,

(01:36:43):
and they're never having their car or their house ever repode.
This is an example of someone who doesn't know how
to manage their personal finances from a financial planner's perspective.
And so this is the reality is we're again the
laughing joke right of the of the state, and of

(01:37:05):
the county and of the entire country, that we have
a mayor whose car is being repolled at the same
time they're advocating to raising our taxes, and they themselves
are voting to raise our taxes. It makes absolutely no sense.
And then there by the way, look at the settlement
to you, Gary, Jeff, look for the fire chief. He's

(01:37:26):
coming up three to five million dollars for most likely
Chief Washington. Look for Chief Fiji. There's going to be
a settlement there. So when we issue judgment bonds for
eight or ten million a city officials, if you're listening
to me, you might as well pump it up to
fifteen to eighteen million while you're in the bond market,
because you're going to continue to pay out these kinds

(01:37:47):
of settlements based on the irresponsible decisions that are coming
from the administration.

Speaker 4 (01:37:53):
Well, the money tree will be bare again very soon, Chris.
Maybe they can find another real road to sell.

Speaker 2 (01:38:01):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:38:01):
Chris Smitherman with the Monday Spleen event this morning, good stuff,
Thank you my friend and Mary Christmas.

Speaker 2 (01:38:08):
Thanks for having me on. Merry Christmas to you two.

Speaker 4 (01:38:11):
All Right, it's seven forty at fifty five KRC the
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Speaker 13 (01:38:16):
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Speaker 4 (01:38:20):
Fifty five KOs the Talk Station. Alright, seven forty five
if we can raise him. In the next few minutes,
we'll talk to Reverend Jim Harden from Compasscare USA, which
is one of the leading emergency pregnancy centers in the country.

(01:38:41):
And it appears as if he's calling back.

Speaker 10 (01:38:44):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:38:45):
And by the way, Compasscare USA has been in the
news because it's been their locations. Their locations have been
in some cases, in one particular case, firebombed by the
peace loving people who believe that a child in the

(01:39:09):
womb is not a child and doesn't deserve respect and
dignity and protection. Reverend Harden, morning, I'm sorry for the
early hour for you. I know you're on the West coast,
and I know it's even before we had to originally
set this up, but it's so important that people know

(01:39:29):
the work that Compasscare USA is doing for the legal
rights of the unborn and for women all over this country.
And it's such a pleasure to have you with us
this morning. So thank you very much, Reverend Harden.

Speaker 1 (01:39:41):
Oh, no, thank thank you, and may I say Merry Christmas.

Speaker 4 (01:39:44):
Merry Christmas. We just talked about this with another guest.
We are spreading the Christmas joy of God with us,
which is what what this means, this celebration means is
that God came to earth to experience the human life

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and to teach us, and then to die and a
cross for our sins so we did not have to
face God's wrath. It's an amazing story and it all
starts with Christmas.

Speaker 1 (01:40:19):
Oh, it really is an amazing story. In fact, it's
so many I write about it a lot. In fact
I even wrote a book about why it's important. Like
Christmas itself, the event and what Emmanuel God with us
means is so it drives our understanding of the value
of humanity. I mean, think about it. Jesus is God
in the flesh. He shed his blood, which is infinitely valuable,

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right because you know, God's dead in the flesh is infinite,
and he's infinitly valuable. But what did he He assigned
a value to humanity to purchase us back from death
and sin, and that value was his blood, which means
that we're infinitely valuable. And we take that truth into
every relation ship that we have and into the way
that we understand humanity and how we should react to

(01:41:06):
each other. What have policies we should create, as you know,
in terms of our government, we need to be more human,
we need to rehumanize it. The way to do that
is to understand, to embrace the truth that humanity, by
virtue of the shedlold of Christ, is infinitely valuable.

Speaker 4 (01:41:23):
And you know what else is a kind of unique
analogy or another way to look at this, I think,
Reverend Harden, is that people who believe, who don't believe
in the sanctity of human life, who you know, are
battling people like you every single day, and don't believe

(01:41:48):
that the unborn deserve respect just like just like they
do as human beings and the right to live. Are
like King Herod who found out that God was coming
to earth or that there was a gift from God
being born. So you know, he goes and he tries

(01:42:10):
to kill all the firstborn babies in all these families.

Speaker 1 (01:42:16):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:42:17):
I mean, do you find that that's that's a good
analogy or a good comparison to people who to people
who are you know, supporters of planned parenthood and and
abortion as opposed to what you're doing with compace scare Usa.

Speaker 1 (01:42:34):
Oh, I think it's a perfect analogy. I mean, Herod
essentially killed children, boys two years and younger for the
purpose of maintaining his power. He was afraid he was
going to lose control and power because this new born
king was was prophesied and apparently had been born in Bethlehem,
and so he didn't know where. So he just decided

(01:42:56):
to kill everybody, all the babies. And that's very similar
if you I mean, it's a very interesting analogy to
what abortion does today because for a politician, you know,
you look at a pro abortion politician, like a Democrat,
and you think, why are they so pro abortion. It's
not because of women's health, it's not because of access

(01:43:18):
to health care. It's not because of you know, you know,
the euphemisms they put on it, like reproductive choice or
rights or whatever. It's all about power. Can this issue
give them more power, and you've always got to be
you know, looking with you know, swinting with one eye
closed at a politician who's willing and wants to accrue

(01:43:40):
more power to him or herself, specifically absolute power. And
there is nothing more absolute in terms of power than
someone who has the ability to decide who lives and
who dies. And that's what abortion is to a politician.

Speaker 9 (01:43:54):
Power.

Speaker 4 (01:43:56):
What's uh, what's the latest done on your battle for
the rights of women and the rights of unborn children
that compass secure USA? What are you working on right now,
Reverend Harden?

Speaker 1 (01:44:09):
Well, right now, we've got multiple lawsuits just to stay
open against you know, some of these pro abortion politicians
like Leticia James A. Traine, and a lot of New
York like a Kafi Hokal Governor of New York, like
Mayor elect New York City Mayor elect Mandami. He vowed

(01:44:29):
to attack us using New York City Local Ordinance Rule
seventeen to force us to carry the kind of political
water of messaging saying that hey, these are the these
are the these are the We don't provide abortions or
refer for abortions, but you can get an abortion somewhere else,
you know, you know, instead of giving free services to him,

(01:44:51):
free medical care, et cetera, they want to shut us down.
The Pro Life Pregnancy Center Network in America gave away
nearly half a billion dollars worth of free services last year,
and Compass Care, you know, is giving away millions of
dollars worth of free medical care and community support to

(01:45:12):
whom facing on planned pranks. Because there's not a sane
woman alive who actually wants to have an abortion. She
just feels stuck. And so what we do is give
her a vision of our future after having had a child.
You know, it's possible you can do this and continue
your career. It's possibly you can have this baby and
continue your education. But we've got to continue to fight
these these rabid pro abortion politicians because quite frankly, they're

(01:45:37):
they're Marxists, Marxist pro abortion public and what a Marxist
basically is the primary tenant of a Marxist is an atheist,
someone who doesn't believe in God and puts government in
the position of God to determine what is right and wrong,
what is the purpose of mankind? And a cruise to
itself and in themselves again absolute power.

Speaker 4 (01:45:57):
So who dies?

Speaker 1 (01:46:00):
Yes, yes, And they don't want anybody out there saying
that there's there are relationships that humans are supposed to
have that take precedent over their humans relationship to government.
For example, my relationship with God should take precedent over
my relationship with government. God is the is the one
who gives me an understanding of what it means to
be human. God is the one that helps me understand

(01:46:21):
what was good and what is right, what is wrong,
and he empowers me to act on what is good
and to walk in right relationship with him and in
right relationship with other people. And so when you take
God out of the equation, I mean, we're not we
shouldn't be surprised that everything starts to fall apart, because
now everyone becomes their own, you know, their own standard

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of what right and wrong is, and that we've got
chaos going on. And when you've got government employees and
you've got bureaucrats and elected officials all saying that the
primary core value humanity is absolute personal autonomy, Go and
do whatever you want. There can be no basis for
civilized order. And so we've got to find a way

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to get back to God so we can recivilize this country.
And that's what I think this next election is going
to be all about. And twenty twenty five was an
amazing year Gary, an amazing pro life yere. Quite frankly,
so much has happened to protect the lives of preborn
boys and girls, not just in terms of the federal government,
the internation. Our role in funding abortion internationally as Americans

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has has been has been. It's come to a halt,
which is fantastic thanks to President Trump. You know, things
have happened at the state level too to regulate abortion.
But it's also galvanized pro abortion politicians and pro abortion
activists to their cause. And I think they're going to
double down on abortion come twenty twenty six in the
midterm elections. It's going to be very interesting to see.

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But we have to we have to understand that Democrats
figure out, they figured something out. They figured out that
that voters respond to a moral vision, whether it's right
or wrong, they respond to a moral vision. They like
to have the debate. So let's do that we as
as Christians have the moral vision, and that our moral
vision is God who created mankind and created us in

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his image to reflect his character and his nature back
to him and to each other. And that is found
in Christ. And now in the Christmas season, we can
remember that.

Speaker 4 (01:48:16):
The Bible says, I knew you before you were in
the room. Compass Care USA for people to find out
more real quickly, Reverend, how do they get in touch
with you?

Speaker 1 (01:48:26):
Yeah? If people want to find out more about how
Compass Care is saving women and babies from abortion, they
can go to Compasscarecommunity dot com. It's Compasscare community dot com.

Speaker 4 (01:48:34):
Thank you so much for your time in Merry Christmas
to Reverend Jim Harden. Are breaking back at seven fifty five.
This report is sponsored by Staple. Good Morning, Chris to
two point zero. My wife. You know, I mentioned to
Joe Strecker during the break, it's a very christ centered

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show this morning. I mean I did set out to preach.
But for the second guests in row, we have another
reverend on, a pastor and a guy that I became
really really fond of after meeting and talking to on
the air, And you know, it's it's weird that we

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have him on next because we just had Reverend Jim Harden,
who's the head of Compass Care USA, which helps women
who are pregnant in their pregnancies emergency Christian crisis centers
around the country that give women an alternative to abortion

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from a Christian way of helping. And this is one
of the most pro life people I know. Are there
any more on the way Corey.

Speaker 2 (01:49:51):
Funny?

Speaker 16 (01:49:51):
First off, Good morning, Mary, Chris. Thank you so much
for having me on Funny. You mention that I'm actually
just getting out of the gym and I want to
pick up diapers right now. So a lot of people
you know that you gain ten pounds with each pregnancy,
but they didn't tell you gained twenty pounds with every campaign.
So I'm working that off before Christmas hits you.

Speaker 4 (01:50:14):
You got a lot of good dinners out of it,
did you.

Speaker 16 (01:50:17):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:50:20):
So first and foremost, the man you ran against for
mayor Cincinnati and albeit you're you're here on the radio
and he's trying to explain repossess cars. The mayor who
wound up winning the reelection, I have to have pure
Vall has some problems making his bills, and you know

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how hard it is. You've got a family, you've got
a business, you've got a congregation, and you know it's
tough out there. So I mean, we all have problems
making ends meet. In today's society, things cost a lot
more and sometimes times we go over budget. Do you

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ever ever have a problem with having a hard time
making making ends meet?

Speaker 16 (01:51:08):
Corey, Well, I think like many people you know in
our nation and the world, you know, you find times
where you're it's harder than normal, or you might have
an insinuating circumstance. I believe, you know, it's crazy. I'm
actually following some very good friends of mine this morning.
I heard Christopher smith Aman on your show and then

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Officer Ken Kober on your show earlier, and they all
had valid points. You know that you know, when it
comes to repossession and when it comes to all this,
you get multiple notifications. To be honest with you, in
the time that we're in the companies try to make
it as easy as they can because they don't want
to repossess, so they don't want to foreclose on things.

(01:51:50):
And so yeah, that's an important thing to try to
have a handle on your finances, especially if you're over
a one point nine billion dollar budget over the next
you know, fiscal year. And so I think the biggest
thing that I came across though, because no matter what
I found out my first campaign, they're always going to
come after anything they can find on you, any dirt

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that they can find. Oh yeah, but the reports that
I'm seeing with especially with what's gone on recently in
our city with the repossessions, or even with the eight
point one million dollar settlement that happened with the protesters
from or the alleged protesters from twenty twenty. To my knowledge,

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all of this stuff was known before the election, but
somehow it didn't get report on during the election. However,
there was a lot of hit pieces on me in
a lot of the same publications.

Speaker 4 (01:52:42):
So what you're saying, essentially is that the people who
were in power before the election, who are still in
power now may have had their hands on the levers
of the information somehow that as you mentioned people when
you for office, I mean, Corey, there is a good

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reason that I've never run for political office outside of
the fact I don't need to complicate my life like that.
There's a good reason I know where all the skeletons
are in my closet, and I don't particularly like airing
that out in public. I'll confess my sins. But you know,

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they find stuff that you were never guilty of that
they dig up. And yet this is a matter of
public record, and it happened not once, but I understand
for mister Pureval it's happened a couple of times that
he forgot about his auto pay or what something else.
I don't know.

Speaker 16 (01:53:45):
Yeah, well, I mean in this, like I said, in
these politics, they're going to come after everything. Now a
lot of people, what I find is on the opposite side.
They take it as like, oh, I'm going to take
the moral high ground in that, like I've never had
any financial challenges. My point would be that the reporting
on it didn't come until after the election. However, you know,

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the investigative reporters that you know had called my business
multiple times, that had called my home multiple times, that
you know, reached out to our church multiple times. I
don't I think that these documents are these types of things.
Even with the settlement that we're hearing that this could
have been fairly easily found in public records. On the

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other side, however, that stuff was quietly put under the
rug until after November fourth.

Speaker 4 (01:54:33):
What have you heard from law enforcement Corey regarding the
new policy guidelines for protests that are included apparently in
this settlement that they're going to rubber stamp tomorrow that
they knew about before the election, you know, along with
the money obviously. But this just opens the door for

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any other group of people who want to commit crime
in the name of what they call protests. And it
not only means they got a green light to commit
those kind of crimes, breaking windows, throwing urine bottles at
officers in the like, but there might be a payday

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in case they get arrested later on down the line.
But what have you heard from law enforcement on this settlement,
if anything.

Speaker 16 (01:55:27):
Well, I'll say this that you know, you said that
this opens the doors. This is giving a green light.
Those doors have been opened for a long time. Actually
keep keeping open. That light has been Yeah, that light
has been green for a while. That's why we ran
our race on public safety.

Speaker 2 (01:55:42):
You know.

Speaker 16 (01:55:42):
I continue to talk with officers, and I think people
people don't realize the importance of morale within the police force.
And when the morale is already low and then you
have a settlement like this that basically says these officers
put their lives on the line during these times where
you know, during the day they were simply just maintaining

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they weren't, you know, trying to cause any problem. And
a lot of the protesters, you know, people have the
constitutional right to protest and we shouldn't be against that.
But when officers are trying to do their job and
then they get slapped on the hand because of it,
or even worse, they get reprimanded or they basically get told, hey,
your job doesn't really mean anything, that morale goes low.

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We're seeing that with the judges, the progressive judges in
Hamilton County are just allowing criminals to be back on
the streets. And the one of the biggest things I
heard from officers throughout the year was we don't even
see the point in arresting many times because these people
are just going to be right back out on the street.

Speaker 2 (01:56:43):
You know.

Speaker 16 (01:56:43):
And when we say that we say repeat criminals, we
know that a lot of these are repeat offenders that
keep on coming. They're always going to cause trouble and
there's no consequences to that. You know, the crime in
our city is done by a very small handful people.
I'm telling you that right now puts a stain on
the entire city, but it can be easily fixed by

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just allowing the officers to do their job, the escalation tactics,
approaching properly, enforcing low level crimes to cause the escalation,
and then also putting pressure on the judges. And I
think the number one, the absolute number one thing that's
wrong with our city public safety right now is understaffing.
I'm going to preach that over and over and over

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that any organization that is twenty percent understaffed cannot adequately
take care of its job like it should. And that's
what's happening with our CPD. They're swimming, they're trying to
gasp for air every weekend, trying to take care of
this city. They love our city, they want to protect
and serve, and they don't feel like anybody has their

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back from city Hall, from the law departments, or from
any other sector of the city.

Speaker 4 (01:57:55):
More with Pastor Corey Bowman and unjust a moment at
take fifteen at fifty five KRC, the talk station.

Speaker 3 (01:58:01):
Bill Cunningham here, you may wonder how much money should
you have in your mercay.

Speaker 4 (01:58:05):
Rs the talk station. We're talking with Corey Bowman gone
from candidate Bowman to citizen Bowman again, a pastor Bowman,
businessman Bowman. What did where's your coffee shop? In business
in twenty twenty, Corey? Had you guys started yet?

Speaker 16 (01:58:27):
We had just started our church in twenty twenty and
then we start our coffee shop in twenty twenty two.

Speaker 4 (01:58:33):
All Right, the protests, which, like I said, we have
a constitutional right to protest in this country. It's one
of the great things about America. But we don't have
a constitutional right to prohibit someone else from exercising their
constitutional right to move, to do commerce, to go to church,

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and all of that. Twenty twenty was a tough year
in many ways to start a business or a church
or anything because of some pretty insane restrictions that were
put on the population and mandates that were enclosures and
all the rest. Anyway, as a citizen of Cincinnati in

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twenty twenty, how if it all did the rotest, the
protest and the violence that was associated with these riots,
as ken Kober called them, see writing is not constitutional.
But how did they affect you as a citizen?

Speaker 16 (01:59:35):
Cory Well, I would say that this is actually what
started our church. Gary Jeff because for us, many people
might not know this side of the story for our life,
but many people knew me as a coffee shop owner
in the West End and a candidate for mayor and
obviously j Vice President jd Vance's brother. Yeah, but what

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got us to Sinant because I grew up in the area,
but I had gone to Tampa, Florida to study ministry,
and during that time, I always knew that I was
coming back to Cincinnati. And then what happened was that
I had a pastor that got arrested for having church.
You know, pastors these days get arrested for many things,

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and you're always wondering, oh, Dear God, what they have
their hands into. But my past we were our church
that we were a part of. We fed a thousand
families a week, we were doing outreach, we were helping people,
and the local government, through the city council and through
the mayor and the county sheriff. We're trying to shut
down churches in Tampa, Florida at that time. Well, my pastor,

(02:00:40):
you know, politely respectfully refused because we couldn't shut the
doors down to helping people. And then to make an
example out of them, they arrested them at his home,
sent a helicopter to his house and arrested them. Now
the charges were dropped because of the Constitution, and also
the governor de Santus came up and said churches are essential.
No pastors are.

Speaker 2 (02:01:01):
Going to be arrested.

Speaker 16 (02:01:03):
During that time, that started something in us because my hometown,
Cincinnati was going through many things where they were trying
to shut down businesses. All the riots were happening. And
when that happened, you know, your heartbreaks for people. I
looked at my wife and I said, we have to
start our church now. So we start our church November
of twenty twenty, in the middle of all those mandates.

(02:01:23):
And within the first week of our church, we were
going out to the arts apartments in the West End
and other areas and distributing meals and groceries and clothes
and toy giveaways. And we've been going. We actually just
celebrate our five year anniversary and I tell people thank you,
and I tell people we started in rebellion. You know,
we started by basically saying no churches are essential. We've

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got to help people no matter what, and we can't
bow our knees to a tyrannical government, whether it's local
or any other level.

Speaker 4 (02:01:55):
Yeah, render into Caesar. What is Caesar's render under God?
What is gone?

Speaker 2 (02:02:00):
And you guys absolutely.

Speaker 4 (02:02:02):
You know, demonstrated that through faith and through action both.
How do how do we address the continued violence in Cincinnati?
I hate to call it gun violence because you know
what I've talked to people before that our Second Amendment enthusiast.

(02:02:22):
In other words, they appreciate the fact that we have
a god given right to carry and to own firearms. Corey,
as citizens, as law abiding citizens, How do we get
a handle in this violence? And you talked about the
recidivism rate of people who continue to commit crimes because

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of the revolving door in the justice system. I think
the recidivism rate on violent crime is about eighty seven
percent of the last figures I saw. So how do
more shootings to you know, more shootings this week and
over the weekend, and somebody died because of this violence?

(02:03:07):
It's really it's it's a cultural thing that we need
to get ahold of. And and can we stop calling
it gun violence because it's simply violence that if they
committed with a gun, it's fine. They outlawed guns in
Great Britain, and there are stabbings in what they call
the Tube almost every week in London.

Speaker 16 (02:03:30):
Well, you know what, Gary Jeff. Over the last year,
not only were we campaigning for our local race, but
we got a chance to go to a lot of
dinners and events of whether it be state or national
figures running for political offices as well. And at many
of these dinners and fundraisers or rallies, whatever you want
to call them, there's always a question and answer session.

(02:03:53):
And I found it funny because I'm I'm a you know,
I'm a Christian. I'm a father and a husband first
and a pastor, and then everything that we do in
our lives is dictated by that vision for our life
of just helping people through the power of God. And
as I was at these events, I found it kind
of interesting that every question was always related to, you know,

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very key things that we're dealing with in our country
with UH, with violence, with public safety, and also with affordability,
with jobs, with a lot of things that people are
suffering with right now. And you're a lot of people,
what I say is that you're looking to when you
have a spiritual crisis going on in the country. A
lot of people, you know, try to figure out whether

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they should worship government or not. And when I say
worship government, it's like they look to the government for everything,
for their source of supply. They look at that for
to fix everything. There's administrative things that every government needs
to fix, and just focus on their jobs. Stop trying
to play national politics or trying to, you know, use
it as a platform for bigger aspirations. Just do your

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job and keep the streets clean and safe, prosperous. You know,
when it comes to the violence in our savity, administrative
capability is make sure your cops are properly staffed, make
sure that they can enforce in a way to where
there's de escalation. Make sure the judges are held to accountability.
And then make sure that the officers have a role

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in the community that they're not just seen as the
worst case scenario, bad guys, but they're there to protect
and serve the community. But ultimately, all these questions that
I've heard over dinners and fundraisers, all these questions that
we're asking ourselves right now, whether people want to realize
they or not, it all comes down to a spiritual crisis,
and we need a spiritual revival in this country. We

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need people to turn back to God. We need to
establish the family unit, fathers in the home, allowing people
to work for a living, providing jobs when necessary, to
be able to give people helping hand up, not just
a handout, but a hand up, and all that in
my mind, because I've been at some of the lowest

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points you know, throughout my life at times, and the
thing that always brought me up, and the thing that's
always brought everybody else up that I talk to, that
is worth anything, all comes back to turning your life
over to Jesus Christ. And my job isn't to force
Jesus on everybody. My job is to tell people, Hey,

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this is something that has changed my life. I would
encourage anybody that's listening right now. Maybe you've never given
your life to Jesus, or maybe you've never actually taken
that step to step into a church because you think, hey,
I don't I'm not right, or I'm not ready for
Jesus yet, I'm not clean enough for Jesus. That's like
me taking my car to a car wash and saying, oh,

(02:06:46):
it's too dirty to take it to the car wash.
I got to clean it up first, you know, coming
to Christ. Coming to Christ is coming as you are,
and then allowing him to be able to make your
life better. And that's what he's done for me and
my family. And I would encourage everybody I think about.
You know, I think it was the night before the election,

(02:07:07):
Gary Jeffson, you gave me a call and me and
you just prayed over the election, and there was so
much peace in my home at that time. And I'm
so thankful for brothers like you that are encouraging in
every way, and I think people need more of that
more than anything.

Speaker 4 (02:07:23):
Pastor Bowman, Hey, you know what, that may be more
important than saying, Mayor Bowman, Pastor Bowman, Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas.
To use her all right, thank you so much. Jim
Ornaesi will join us next. I'm sure it'll be a
totally different conversation. Eight twenty eight. Nice enough to get

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up this morning and talk for a few minutes to
help me fill out this show. A former congressman and
candidate Jim Rinesi, who's a businessman and an entrepreneur and
has his fingers on the pulse of what goes on
in Washington. DC, which is why he washes his fingers

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quite often. Good morning and Merry Christmas, mister RAINECI, how
are you? Oh, I'm sorry, I'm supposed to put him on. Jim,
How are you?

Speaker 1 (02:08:18):
Good morning?

Speaker 16 (02:08:19):
How are you?

Speaker 4 (02:08:20):
I'm fine, Just got to hit the right button. So
a couple of things that I wanted to address with you.
Number One, Today, the Supreme Court is hearing the Trump
versus Slaughter case, which of course refers to Rebecca Slaughter,
who was the fired Federal Trade Commission employee by Donald Trump.

(02:08:48):
And that's an issue in this current case. And what
the Supreme Court is going to decide ultimately is the
limits or maybe the limits of executive power when it
comes to these federal agencies that are under the executive branch.
But because of something called Humphreys Executeur that was a

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decision back in nineteen thirty five during the FDR administration,
prohibits the president from removing the heads of independent agencies
without cause. And there's been a slow and steady march
in the Supreme Court under John Roberts going back to
twenty ten that has in many cases people say on

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the left has given the president too much presidential power
and that the court and their conservatives may say that
the president has unbridled power to fire these agency heads.
Of course, last year we had the Chevron decision that
of course limited these agencies' powers to usurp Congress and

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the like. As far as I'm concerned, if you're an
employee of one of these alphabet agencies and they fall
under the executive branch, shouldn't the executive have the right
to decide who he wants working for him in these agencies?

Speaker 17 (02:10:21):
Well, Gary, and again I don't disagree with you in
the business world, but the problem is we're in the
political world when you get to DC, and what we
have to expect if this is the case, if the
president can fire everybody and replace them, that you will
have an seesaw approach over the years with different presidents,
which I think is really the reason why they said

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these independent, dependent agents should be allowed to serve out
their term. And they're given terms and it goes over
sometimes two or three presidents. So in the end, if
you give one power and I think this is what
we have to be very very careful of. I mean,
the assumption when President Trump files these lawsuits is that

(02:11:06):
he's going to be in office for the rest of time.
But you know there will be a Democrat, there will
be somebody we don't like, and then when they're firing
those people, we're going to say, well, wait a minute,
that's not right. So I think there is a reason
to have this these terms that you know, you can't
terminate somebody without a cause, and I think in many

(02:11:30):
cases we should keep those in place, especially when even
like the head of the Federal Reserve. I mean, President
Trump appointed this guy. Now he's trying to fire him.

Speaker 4 (02:11:40):
Yeah. Well again, the American people voted in great numbers
to elect someone again as president who built his career
at least in the public donating not only buildings, but
telling people they were fired on TV. And you think
about that for a second.

Speaker 17 (02:12:01):
This is so true. And I got to tell you
a funny story. I was after I left Washington. I
was asked if I would serve in President Trump's one
of the cabinet positions or one of the positions that
he oversees. And a friend of mine called me and said,
I remember there are twos that two things that you
will be if you ever asked to serve under President Trump.

(02:12:24):
I said, what's that He goes you either be fired
or soon to be fired.

Speaker 1 (02:12:29):
I had to laugh about that.

Speaker 4 (02:12:31):
Well, the been there been a lot less firings within
the cabinet than there were during President Trump's first term
in office, because this time he surrounded himself with people
who are loyal and he knows that, and he knows
the ropes about around the Beltway in sixteen hundred Pennsylvania
Avenue much better than he did the first time around.

(02:12:53):
We can all agree on that. I want to get
into the Venezuelan drug boat controversy that has been the
latest cause to celeb for Democrats, people on the left
in Washington, and will if you will indulge me, Jim
and hang around for another segment, we'll talk about that next.

(02:13:14):
Is that okay?

Speaker 1 (02:13:15):
Sure?

Speaker 4 (02:13:17):
Eight thirty seven fifty five KRC the talk station. Do
you own a small business? A seismic shift is coming.
It's Jim Ornacy, our guest for the next few minutes
on this Monday morning, Gary Jeffen for Brian Thomas and Jim.
You know President Obama famously sent cruise missiles and killed

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thousands of people when he was president without any approval
from Congress. Well, Bill Clinton blew up an aspirin factory
in the middle of the Monica Lewinsky scandal just to
divert people's attention away from what was going on in
the Oval office. President Trump and his Secretary of War

(02:14:01):
Pete Hegseth now being their feet held to the fire
on the President's policy regarding blowing up drug boats from
the Caribbean from international waters as a matter of national security,
because drugs that are coming into this country from out
of country, particularly fentanyl, are killing two hundred thousand people

(02:14:26):
a year, or were when we had an open border,
and the drugs are, of course are still coming in.
Is this another made up controversy or are the Democrats
Do they have a leg to stand on in their arguments?

Speaker 1 (02:14:45):
Well, Lork, I.

Speaker 17 (02:14:46):
Think anytime the president does something like this, Congress is
allowed to ask questions. I mean, you mentioned Obama and
I can tell you we myself and others asked the
same questions when he made those strike. So yes, it
does happen. Congress has the right for oversight. There are
some Republicans asking questions as well, you know Randall, Mike

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Turner here in Ohio, Mike Round's Tom Tillis, Jim Justice.
They're all asking the same thing, and I think they're
very concerned about the second strike on survivors, which you
know is interesting as well. So I do think there's
that's one thing Congress is supposed to have oversight. They're

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supposed to be able to, you know, take a look
at what this president's doing, but also what any president's doing.
And I think we always have to realize the President Trump.
I said it earlier in the segment, President Trump's not
going to be around forever. There's going to be a
Democrat president there at some point in time, and Republicans
are going to be asking similar and same questions, which

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they have the right to do. Congress has that right
of oversight.

Speaker 4 (02:15:51):
Well, yeah, there's a difference between asking questions and suggesting that, oh, well,
it's not how they were killed, it's the way that
you killed them. I mean, there have been a lot
of drug smugglers who have been dead with these strikes,
and the fact that, oh, it's awful that they took

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a second bite of the apple when they found out
they didn't really destroy the drugs, which was their original intention.
So I understand all of that very well. It's okay
to ask questions that I don't think it's okay to
suggest that somehow Pete Hegseth or President Trump committed war
crimes here.

Speaker 10 (02:16:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (02:16:36):
Well, remember those same comments were made with Obama and
others too. So this is politics. It's one of the
reasons why I left Washington. It gets down into the weeds,
especially when it you can say political year. This is
really all about twenty twenty six, not about twenty twenty five.

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It's about the November elections next year. It's about continuing
to put doubt out there. And again that's sadly enough,
that's what politics is all about. They don't get anything
done down there. I mean, they're struggling to get bills
passed even this month that are required to continue funding
of the defense sector and other things. But this is

(02:17:19):
the way of continuing to mix the sausage up, as
we say, and just continue to make issues for the
next election.

Speaker 4 (02:17:29):
When Ronald Reagan took office in nineteen eighty one, after
the mess that was the Carter administration and our economy
and affordability, You remember the early eighties, I'm sure as
well as I do. The high, the super the ultra
high interest rates, the ultra high inflation rate that Ronald
Reagan inherited in one of the reasons that he got

(02:17:51):
elected president. We were in a recession until nineteen eighty three,
basic when we came out and Ronald Riggans tax cuts
took a hold. How long pursuant to President Trump's policy
and agenda, if he can turn the economy around, how

(02:18:13):
long do you think it's going to take, and will
it be in time for the Republicans for the midterm.
When it comes to the buzzword of affordability, well.

Speaker 17 (02:18:22):
Look, affordability is going to be the issue. I mean,
prices are still going up. And as I've said in
many of my other presentations, you know, the rich somebody
who's wealthy is they see the price is going up,
but it doesn't hurt them as bad. The poor get
the additional funding from the federal government. But this middle group,
this middle class of Americans who struggle every day to

(02:18:45):
make ends meet, they're the ones that are going to
be frustrated. And that's where the real key is because
that's a big group of voters who don't see prices
coming down, they see them going up. Some of it
has to do with the tariffs, which I know people
don't want to talk about, but the tariffs have driven
some prices up as well, and I think that's going

(02:19:06):
to be the biggest problem for the midterms is how
do we justify tariffs are which are causing prices to
go up, and still say that that we have affordability.
So it's going to be an interesting argument over the
next few months as we get ready for November's elections.

Speaker 4 (02:19:23):
Well, do you agree that one thing would help real
quickly would be lowering the borrowing rate? Is I mean
really lowering it? And for the first time in four years,
gas around the country is averaging under three dollars a gallon,
and almost everything other than maybe housing is tied to

(02:19:45):
energy cost. And when I see two seventy three at
the pump for the first time, and like I said,
four years or more, I'm like, you know what that's
going to help with a lot of things being more
affordable for us in the middle class, don't you think?

Speaker 1 (02:20:05):
Well? I do.

Speaker 17 (02:20:05):
But also remember gas prices going down as a sign
of the economy slowing down too, which is never a
good sign. Today, treasury rates are going up, also another
bad sign that the economy is slowing down. So we
got a couple signs out there that are making it
look and we're going to have massive layoffs because of AI,

(02:20:26):
which is something that's not President Trump's fault. But when
you have all of these massive layoffs because of AI,
the economy is going to start to come to a slowdown.
And I think those are the issues. See that's the
way I look at it from an economic standpoint. I
don't see gas prices coming down as a good thing,
although I think it helps us all in our pocketbook.
It will help coust him down, but also shows you

(02:20:48):
a sign of an economy slowing down, which should be
somewhat of a concern for President Trump. He has to
figure out a way how to get this economy moving.
And also with all the job losses of AI, I'm
not sure anybody has that answer just yet.

Speaker 4 (02:21:03):
Well, realists are often not optimist, but I am optimistic
that you will have a very merry Christmas, Jim or
in Acy, I'm predicting it now and I believe it
fully in my heart. So merry Christmas.

Speaker 17 (02:21:15):
Well, I appreciate that. And the realist comment is actually
what people used to always say about me. I'm not
an office. I'm not a pessimist.

Speaker 1 (02:21:21):
I'm a realist. And you have a great holiday season
as well.

Speaker 4 (02:21:25):
Thank you. It's It's Holy Days. Eight forty nine fifty
five KRC back to wrap up after this.

Speaker 3 (02:21:32):
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Speaker 4 (02:21:35):
The number of men here save and sound don't have
to hit the road for a little while. Eight fifty
three Now Gary Jeff Walker fully enjoying this morning's ride
with you on the Brian Thomas Morning Show. And these
stories always just make me go wow, criminals really are stupid.

(02:22:00):
Not a lot of masterminds here. A man's been arrested,
accused of stealing an Amazon delivery van during a robbery
and del High and then leading police on a chase Saturday.
How did they? How did the police find him? Courts
Court documents show that Ryan Burke, age thirty five, faces

(02:22:22):
charges of failure to comply with an order or a
signal of a police officer receiving stolen property. Burke fled
from officers after lights and sirens were activated in a
stolen Amazon van. He took a a robbery committed in
del High. If you're going to commit a robbery, my

(02:22:43):
first advice is don't commit a robbery because it's a
crime and it's wrong and you just shouldn't do that.
But if you're going to commit a robbery, there were
some There are some vehicles you should leave off your list.
One of them is an Amazon delivery van that is

(02:23:04):
completely completely connected and hooked up to the Internet through
GPS and whatever. Another vehicle you probably shouldn't steal, and
we've seen this in town is a tractor trailer. Not
exactly easy to hide. One of those also on the

(02:23:25):
list an ambulance, a police car, a fire truck. I mean,
if you're gonna do the crime, at least do the
time beforehand to fully think this out. Might save yourself
a lot of trouble and jail time. Just saying I

(02:23:47):
don't know the next time that I'll get to be
with you in this particular time and place, but I
always enjoy it every time I get the chance to
my thanks to Joe Strecker and to Brian Thomas for
taking the day off. Glenn Beck coming up next on
fifty five KRC the talk

Speaker 3 (02:24:07):
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