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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Seven six at fifty five KRC de talk station and
a very happy what I love to call Friday Eve
and anticipation at tomorrow, which is going to be the
Christmas Show. Rob Ryder in studio with his guitar, which
is tradition here in the fifty five KRC Morning Show
and it has been since my dad was behind the
microphone again. I'm concluding my eighteenth year radio tomorrow, which
is the last day of the year for me. I'm
(00:35):
gonna have several people filling in for me, Dan Carroll
and Kevin Gordon and Garrett Jeff Walker, and so enjoy
those folks for the balance of the year. And I'm
looking forward tomorrow and celebrating Christmas. And I've been looking
forward to this all morning. I have in studio Patty
Scott and Roger King. They're with an organization called Heart
four Seniors, and I'll recommend you check them out online.
(00:56):
It's the word heart with the number four followed by
seniors dot or So we're gonna learn about this nonprofit
and what they do for seniors, which is really an
unbelievably important thing. Patty, Roger, Welcome to the fifty five
Karasy Morning Show. I'm really happy you're able to come
in studio. I love having face to face conversations.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Thanks, Brian, You're.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
More than welcome. You can feel free to talk. Roger
got shocked by the microphone. He grounded out. I think
he's afraid of it now. He's just had some static
electricity built up.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Like Roger.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
No one has ever been shocked by that thing. It
doesn't have current flowing through it. You're okay, But how long?
When did you start Hard for Seniors and more fundamentally,
what was your motivation behind starting this organization?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Well, I have to say, Brian, we started it actually
a few months ago when we actually became official and
did all the filings. But this has been ongoing for
well over seven years. You know, there's a crisis that's
growing that nobody wants to talk about, and that's the
abuse and the neglect that's going on with our seniors,
our elder that are in these long term care facilities
(02:03):
and right you know, my parents are eighty seven years
old and I'm facing it every day. And it's like
when you look and see what's out there, from dehydration
to UTIs two skin breakdowns. It's something that is ugly
that nobody wants to talk about. And I really found
(02:24):
there was no technology around it. So HEART actually stands
for Healthcare Evolution, Alert Response Technology because at the end
of the day, it's all about quality, right, Like, what
is out there? If you have a loved one in
a nursing home, how do you, as a daughter know
(02:48):
that there's not being taken care of. There's nothing that's
out there that can hold them accountable. So I actually
came to Roger, who's been in the healthcare industry forever,
and I knew this all started when my mom fell
and broke her hip, and at two am she called
(03:12):
me because she was very continent, even though she had
had the surgery, and she had been ringing the bell
and ringing the bell and nobody came in.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
From a callite perspective, it was two am.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
So I drove thirty minutes to get to her and
I walked in. I have video that would just be
stunning that you just hear. It's like Christmas lights and
music going off, and I'm walking hall to hall to hall.
No one, no nurses, no a It's like no one.
I'm like, what is going on?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I can I ask you how long ago this occurred?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
A year ago?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Okay, a year ago, a year ago.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah. I was appalled.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
The next day, I walked into the administrator's office and
I showed him the video and I said, really, what was.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
The response you got to that? JA mumble?
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I trayed a litigation attorney, so you know my litigation.
My bells are ringing and my and my wheels are spinning,
and I'm thinking this sounds actionable. I mean, this is
this is at minimum negligence.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Well, immediately he was embarrassed, you know, and of course, oh, well,
we're going to get you know, the don and all
these people because she was in rehab. And I'm and
at this point it was not just about my mom.
I was like, what about all these other people that
are sitting here as well, you know? And then and
then his thing was, well, you know, we hire these
agencies and people don't show up.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
And I'm like, well, but I walked around.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
I mean, the video is three to five minutes, no
one at two am.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I mean, where are they?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I was just going to ask you this. I mean,
That's why I asked where the timeframe was because my
father passed away just last week or week before two
years ago, and when he passed away, he was in
in Alzheimer's dementia care facility. And you know, thank God
for my mom. I mean, she you know, worked her
(05:00):
self to the point where she was almost in worse
shape than my father at home, until the point where
she really wasn't capable of caring for him twenty four
to seven, because you know, it's a twenty four to seven.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Thing, twenty four to seven.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
So we got him into this facility. I'm not going
to name, I'm not going to detract from them, but
you know there were times when you walk through and
you're scratching your head, You're going hmmm. And when you
talk with the folks that work there, you really wonder
the caliber and quality of the person. These didn't seem
to be trained medical professionals. Like my expectation was the
(05:33):
place to be filled with nurses, you know, you know,
skilled nurses or just first books of a nursing degree
or something like that. Now, these were you know, lower wage,
sort of hourly employees, capable of maybe doing the cleanup
work and doing the meal prep, but beyond that that
was it. And Mom practically lived there next to them
(05:54):
making sure that he was well taken care of, because
quite often you felt like he wasn't.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yeah, and this isn't. This is a crisis that isn't
going away.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
I mean, you look at the aging population, right and
the biggest issues dehydration. UTIs so UTI's lead to say, right, yeah,
you know, and it's just it. Why is it right?
Why is it right that our loved ones are sitting
in urine and feces for more than twenty four hours?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Why? I mean, I know, it's well, it isn't.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
That's I guess the question is everybody's like, well, what's
the answer to this?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
You know?
Speaker 1 (06:31):
And this is why I guess you formed the Heartforce
Seniors dot Org.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
So I called Roger, who's been in this industry forever.
He had actually had created through with the help of
the University of Louisville and some other things. The technology
was there. The question was how do I get it
down to where my mom is right? And more importantly,
like how can we get this out to everyone? Because
(06:57):
more R and D needs to be done and again
it needs to be alert response technology. And so I
was very fortunate, I mean, with his trade association background
and just all the expertise that he's had in all
of his various companies. I knew that we could come
up with the technology.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Well, Roger, what is.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Your background and how is it you know you ended
up in this position to help out so many people.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
Well, I began my career working in nursing homes as
a speech pathologist. Actually I worked with swallowing disorders and
patients who had trades or were events and things like that.
Became a nursing home administrator, ultimately managed over thirty nursing
homes in Ohio for about twenty five years. So I
(07:45):
was able to, you know, in that job, really see
where the weak spots were, where we struggled to really
give the quality care I wanted. So that was extremely
helpful for me to have gone through all that because
today when I look at it, what I realized over
time is ultimately we as a society, as a culture,
(08:09):
we've failed our elderly people. Big Tech America has failed
our elderly. Corporate America has failed our elderly people. We
cannot rely on government regulations punishment to modify this behavior.
To improve care. We have to in the private sector.
We have to get innovative. We have to solve the
(08:32):
problems and technology can do that. We've seen it here
locally at Batavia a nursing Home. Batavia Nursing Home, they
have done a wonderful job with some new technology. We're
literally seeing on the patients who wear that technology zero UTIs,
(08:53):
zero skin breakdown, very fast response times from the staff
to deal with inc continance care issues, how hydration, things
like that. The concepts are being proven and I'm just
amazed and very very pleased with what I'm seeing.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Okay, and since it is time for a break, you
have set the stage wonderfully for me to ask the
question how does this technology work? So we'll pause and
we'll bring them back. It's Heart number four Seniors dot Org.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
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Speaker 1 (09:27):
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Talking about the state of senior care and senior living
facilities and it's not very good. Patty Scott relayed her
own personal experience dealing with her mom and wandering around
in the middle of the night, wondering where evernyone was
to help her with her g broken hip, bells, ringing
lights going off, knowing around to help out. Roger King
has is now working with Patty and they have formed
(12:34):
this five oh one to three ceed nonprofit. It's called
Heart four Seniors, the number four Heart Number four Seniors.
You can find the on line of heartfo Seniors dot org.
And Rogers set the stage given his long history of
dealing with these facilities and helping out folks living in them,
dealing with the breathing issues as he started out with,
and he's got a long career, so he was the
(12:56):
right man to tap for the job. We're talking technology,
and how do we address the senior laying in a
bed having soiled themselves with no one around apparently to
help them out. You were getting ready to explain this technology, Rogers,
so let us learn from you.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
So the technology involves especially made adult brief. It's disposable,
it's cost effective, and attached to that brief is a
very small module which communicates Bluetooth the Wi Fi and
talks to the staff on smartphones and alerts them when
the person soiled. And then the software creates a record
(13:35):
of when the event occurred, how long it took the
staff to get there, and further than indicates which staff
member responded for which resident, and then applies a reward
system for that staff so they get extra bonus points
and ultimately money for moving faster. Oh, that is awesome
(14:00):
in the form of gift cards and things like that.
So what we're seeing with that system the way it's
employed is average response times of about an hour, which
is far better than what we get using protocols. When
you look at nursing home protocols, they're doomed to failure.
They basically tell staff check on everybody every two hours.
(14:22):
Like Epstein, you're supposed to check on people. Yeah, sure, Hony.
In order to do that, the staff have to go
into the room reposition that resident either peek or smell
or touch. We're avoiding all that. We're not waking people
up in the middle of the night to do that. Now,
when you look at the numbers, it's interesting. I just
(14:42):
looked at a facility that had about one hundred patients
in it. Seventy of them were incontinent. When I do
the mouth on that, I say, well, if you're going
to check everybody every two hours, that's twelve times a day.
That's over eight hundred times a day for fifteen nurse aides.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
That a'st going to happen. It's not ever going to happen.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
So the protocol itself is basically a falsehood. You know,
everybody knows we can't get there. They're not going to
get there. It's it's just a mirage. I think there
are some really bad nursing homes where you may say
you may see people get changed once a shift. Now
when this happens, the outcomes, the potential outcomes, they are
(15:25):
really bad. You're going to get skin break down, You're
going to get incontinence related dermatitis. It may go deeper
into the tissue. It may ultimately create a pressure ulcer
which goes to the bone. You'll see urinary tract infections.
You're getting into your getting into potential sepsis, and I
see use stays and things like that. So this technology though,
(15:50):
think about skin and urinary tract infections. Is an example,
when you lay and you're a n feces for hours,
especially the female page, since that he coalies going into
the urinary track and we've got big problems.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Oh God.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
What we saw recently in a study in this facility
involving about three hundred people is that biolink system is
what it's called, actually had zero skin breakdown, zero UTIs
when compared to the rest of the population which had
incidents over about a three or four month period of
about fifteen sixteen percent for both of those issues.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
So it essentially.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
Took the problem areas out problem outcomes to zero.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
I see, the concept is so awesome, and it just
blows my mind that nobody thought of this before, has
rolled it out before, because this technology seems in modern
times to be fairly simple. We've got smartphone, smart devices,
we got sensors and gadgets literally everywhere. But I was
immediately thinking that the response's time it was going to
(17:01):
sort of be this threat of penalty if you didn't
get there. So you know, we're keeping track of how
long it takes, you know, and it's going to be
a marker on your record if you let this person
lay in there for a couple hours after you learm goes.
But the idea that it has a reward system built
into it it does is great. I don't know, man,
And the record is there. You can show the patient's family,
(17:22):
look how quickly we were able to deal with this
and how often it happens, and it just is awesome.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
Well, interestingly, that same module monitors body temperature and it
will also indicate if somebody hasn't urinated in a certain
number of hours that they need fluids. So there's there's
a lot that goes into it beyond just the incontinence.
It monitors positioning, so if it looks like somebody is
(17:51):
going to fall and they're in a bad positional, alert
on that. There's also a risk wearable device that's going
with it that monitors blood oxygen levels, It'll monitor heart
rate for techocardia bradycardia. It'll alert phones to the staff
on that as well as temperature device there. So you
(18:13):
can imagine in some facilities somebody could have a fever
for a long time before it's detected. We could have
pneumonia developing or some other viral infection things like that.
There's work being done on some dressings with chips embedded
that would alert staff to when a wound dressing needs
(18:35):
to be changed because it's saturated with exedate with blood.
There's neglect there. It's basically the idea is use technology
to identify potential needs, alert staff carrying smart devices to
go check that resident and assess and deal with that need,
(18:58):
and then document with the software how well everybody did
an alert went out, did they respond and how fast.
I tell you, Roger, that's mind blowing. That is so cool,
and I can't imagine a facility not wanting to adopt that.
And again, going back to my litigation mindset, I mean,
(19:20):
this would avoid so many problems, so many potential lawsuits,
would avoid so much heartbreak, It would avoid so much
death and struggles and pain that goes along with all
these conditions that manifest themselves because of neglect. Boom problem solved,
Roger King, Patty Scott, it's again heart the Number four
Seniors dot Org. Amazing stuff, wonderful developments technologically speaking, and
(19:45):
a brilliant concept. I applaud both of you for this.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Again.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
I keep thinking of my dad and what a wonderful
thing that would have been if had they had this technology.
Where he was and he was in again, I'm saying
he was in really pretty good hands, at least in
so far these institutions are concerned.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
Real quick, go ahead, yeah right now, Just for everybody's information.
This technology is in four nursing homes in Ohio. We're
expanding to six more in January. Our goal is to
get into fifty next year. We need funding, you know.
That's the whole purpose of Heart for Seniors to get
donations to help expand these concepts. And locally here it's
(20:27):
Batavia Nursing and Convalescent Center and Salem Woods has the
technology now and it's the staff's doing wonderfully with it,
and we're really proud of what we're accomplishing there.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
All right, Well, I assure you that Brian Thomas will
be making a donation to hard for Seniors dot org today. Wow,
as soon as I got enough time to fill out
the form here, which shouldn't take more than a couple
of minutes. But I God bless you for the work
you're doing, and I'll make the donation of my excuse
me having an allergy attack thinking of my dad, So
(20:59):
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Seven six at fifty five KRC de talk station and
a very happy what I love to call Friday Eve
and anticipation at tomorrow, which is going to be the
Christmas Show. Rob Ryder in studio with his guitar, which
is tradition here in the fifty five KRC Morning Show
and it has been since my dad was behind the
microphone again. I'm concluding my eighteenth year radio tomorrow, which
is the last day of the year for me. I'm
(00:35):
gonna have several people filling in for me, Dan Carroll
and Kevin Gordon and Garrett Jeff Walker, and so enjoy
those folks for the balance of the year. And I'm
looking forward tomorrow and celebrating Christmas. And I've been looking
forward to this all morning. I have in studio Patty
Scott and Roger King. They're with an organization called Heart
four Seniors, and I'll recommend you check them out online.
(00:56):
It's the word heart with the number four followed by
seniors dot or So we're gonna learn about this nonprofit
and what they do for seniors, which is really an
unbelievably important thing. Patty, Roger, Welcome to the fifty five
Karasy Morning Show. I'm really happy you're able to come
in studio. I love having face to face conversations.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Thanks, Brian, You're.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
More than welcome. You can feel free to talk. Roger
got shocked by the microphone. He grounded out. I think
he's afraid of it now. He's just had some static
electricity built up.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Like Roger.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
No one has ever been shocked by that thing. It
doesn't have current flowing through it. You're okay, But how long?
When did you start Hard for Seniors and more fundamentally,
what was your motivation behind starting this organization?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Well, I have to say, Brian, we started it actually
a few months ago when we actually became official and
did all the filings. But this has been ongoing for
well over seven years. You know, there's a crisis that's
growing that nobody wants to talk about, and that's the
abuse and the neglect that's going on with our seniors,
our elder that are in these long term care facilities
(02:03):
and right you know, my parents are eighty seven years
old and I'm facing it every day. And it's like
when you look and see what's out there, from dehydration
to UTIs two skin breakdowns. It's something that is ugly
that nobody wants to talk about. And I really found
(02:24):
there was no technology around it. So HEART actually stands
for Healthcare Evolution, Alert Response Technology because at the end
of the day, it's all about quality, right, Like, what
is out there? If you have a loved one in
a nursing home, how do you, as a daughter know
(02:48):
that there's not being taken care of. There's nothing that's
out there that can hold them accountable. So I actually
came to Roger, who's been in the healthcare industry forever,
and I knew this all started when my mom fell
and broke her hip, and at two am she called
(03:12):
me because she was very continent, even though she had
had the surgery, and she had been ringing the bell
and ringing the bell and nobody came in.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
From a callite perspective, it was two am.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
So I drove thirty minutes to get to her and
I walked in. I have video that would just be
stunning that you just hear. It's like Christmas lights and
music going off, and I'm walking hall to hall to hall.
No one, no nurses, no a It's like no one.
I'm like, what is going on?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I can I ask you how long ago this occurred?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
A year ago?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Okay, a year ago, a year ago.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah. I was appalled.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
The next day, I walked into the administrator's office and
I showed him the video and I said, really, what was.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
The response you got to that? JA mumble?
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I trayed a litigation attorney, so you know my litigation.
My bells are ringing and my and my wheels are spinning,
and I'm thinking this sounds actionable. I mean, this is
this is at minimum negligence.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Well, immediately he was embarrassed, you know, and of course, oh, well,
we're going to get you know, the don and all
these people because she was in rehab. And I'm and
at this point it was not just about my mom.
I was like, what about all these other people that
are sitting here as well, you know? And then and
then his thing was, well, you know, we hire these
agencies and people don't show up.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
And I'm like, well, but I walked around.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
I mean, the video is three to five minutes, no
one at two am.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I mean, where are they?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I was just going to ask you this. I mean,
That's why I asked where the timeframe was because my
father passed away just last week or week before two
years ago, and when he passed away, he was in
in Alzheimer's dementia care facility. And you know, thank God
for my mom. I mean, she you know, worked her
(05:00):
self to the point where she was almost in worse
shape than my father at home, until the point where
she really wasn't capable of caring for him twenty four
to seven, because you know, it's a twenty four to seven.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Thing, twenty four to seven.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
So we got him into this facility. I'm not going
to name, I'm not going to detract from them, but
you know there were times when you walk through and
you're scratching your head, You're going hmmm. And when you
talk with the folks that work there, you really wonder
the caliber and quality of the person. These didn't seem
to be trained medical professionals. Like my expectation was the
(05:33):
place to be filled with nurses, you know, you know,
skilled nurses or just first books of a nursing degree
or something like that. Now, these were you know, lower wage,
sort of hourly employees, capable of maybe doing the cleanup
work and doing the meal prep, but beyond that that
was it. And Mom practically lived there next to them
(05:54):
making sure that he was well taken care of, because
quite often you felt like he wasn't.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yeah, and this isn't. This is a crisis that isn't
going away.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
I mean, you look at the aging population, right and
the biggest issues dehydration. UTIs so UTI's lead to say, right, yeah,
you know, and it's just it. Why is it right?
Why is it right that our loved ones are sitting
in urine and feces for more than twenty four hours?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Why? I mean, I know, it's well, it isn't.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
That's I guess the question is everybody's like, well, what's
the answer to this?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
You know?
Speaker 1 (06:31):
And this is why I guess you formed the Heartforce
Seniors dot Org.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
So I called Roger, who's been in this industry forever.
He had actually had created through with the help of
the University of Louisville and some other things. The technology
was there. The question was how do I get it
down to where my mom is right? And more importantly,
like how can we get this out to everyone? Because
(06:57):
more R and D needs to be done and again
it needs to be alert response technology. And so I
was very fortunate, I mean, with his trade association background
and just all the expertise that he's had in all
of his various companies. I knew that we could come
up with the technology.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Well, Roger, what is.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Your background and how is it you know you ended
up in this position to help out so many people.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
Well, I began my career working in nursing homes as
a speech pathologist. Actually I worked with swallowing disorders and
patients who had trades or were events and things like that.
Became a nursing home administrator, ultimately managed over thirty nursing
homes in Ohio for about twenty five years. So I
(07:45):
was able to, you know, in that job, really see
where the weak spots were, where we struggled to really
give the quality care I wanted. So that was extremely
helpful for me to have gone through all that because
today when I look at it, what I realized over
time is ultimately we as a society, as a culture,
(08:09):
we've failed our elderly people. Big Tech America has failed
our elderly. Corporate America has failed our elderly people. We
cannot rely on government regulations punishment to modify this behavior.
To improve care. We have to in the private sector.
We have to get innovative. We have to solve the
(08:32):
problems and technology can do that. We've seen it here
locally at Batavia a nursing Home. Batavia Nursing Home, they
have done a wonderful job with some new technology. We're
literally seeing on the patients who wear that technology zero UTIs,
(08:53):
zero skin breakdown, very fast response times from the staff
to deal with inc continance care issues, how hydration, things
like that. The concepts are being proven and I'm just
amazed and very very pleased with what I'm seeing.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Okay, and since it is time for a break, you
have set the stage wonderfully for me to ask the
question how does this technology work? So we'll pause and
we'll bring them back. It's Heart number four Seniors dot Org.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
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Speaker 1 (12:12):
Talking about the state of senior care and senior living
facilities and it's not very good. Patty Scott relayed her
own personal experience dealing with her mom and wandering around
in the middle of the night, wondering where evernyone was
to help her with her g broken hip, bells, ringing
lights going off, knowing around to help out. Roger King
has is now working with Patty and they have formed
(12:34):
this five oh one to three ceed nonprofit. It's called
Heart four Seniors, the number four Heart Number four Seniors.
You can find the on line of heartfo Seniors dot org.
And Rogers set the stage given his long history of
dealing with these facilities and helping out folks living in them,
dealing with the breathing issues as he started out with,
and he's got a long career, so he was the
(12:56):
right man to tap for the job. We're talking technology,
and how do we address the senior laying in a
bed having soiled themselves with no one around apparently to
help them out. You were getting ready to explain this technology, Rogers,
so let us learn from you.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
So the technology involves especially made adult brief. It's disposable,
it's cost effective, and attached to that brief is a
very small module which communicates Bluetooth the Wi Fi and
talks to the staff on smartphones and alerts them when
the person soiled. And then the software creates a record
(13:35):
of when the event occurred, how long it took the
staff to get there, and further than indicates which staff
member responded for which resident, and then applies a reward
system for that staff so they get extra bonus points
and ultimately money for moving faster. Oh, that is awesome
(14:00):
in the form of gift cards and things like that.
So what we're seeing with that system the way it's
employed is average response times of about an hour, which
is far better than what we get using protocols. When
you look at nursing home protocols, they're doomed to failure.
They basically tell staff check on everybody every two hours.
(14:22):
Like Epstein, you're supposed to check on people. Yeah, sure, Hony.
In order to do that, the staff have to go
into the room reposition that resident either peek or smell
or touch. We're avoiding all that. We're not waking people
up in the middle of the night to do that. Now,
when you look at the numbers, it's interesting. I just
(14:42):
looked at a facility that had about one hundred patients
in it. Seventy of them were incontinent. When I do
the mouth on that, I say, well, if you're going
to check everybody every two hours, that's twelve times a day.
That's over eight hundred times a day for fifteen nurse aides.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
That a'st going to happen. It's not ever going to happen.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
So the protocol itself is basically a falsehood. You know,
everybody knows we can't get there. They're not going to
get there. It's it's just a mirage. I think there
are some really bad nursing homes where you may say
you may see people get changed once a shift. Now
when this happens, the outcomes, the potential outcomes, they are
(15:25):
really bad. You're going to get skin break down, You're
going to get incontinence related dermatitis. It may go deeper
into the tissue. It may ultimately create a pressure ulcer
which goes to the bone. You'll see urinary tract infections.
You're getting into your getting into potential sepsis, and I
see use stays and things like that. So this technology though,
(15:50):
think about skin and urinary tract infections. Is an example,
when you lay and you're a n feces for hours,
especially the female page, since that he coalies going into
the urinary track and we've got big problems.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Oh God.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
What we saw recently in a study in this facility
involving about three hundred people is that biolink system is
what it's called, actually had zero skin breakdown, zero UTIs
when compared to the rest of the population which had
incidents over about a three or four month period of
about fifteen sixteen percent for both of those issues.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
So it essentially.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
Took the problem areas out problem outcomes to zero.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
I see, the concept is so awesome, and it just
blows my mind that nobody thought of this before, has
rolled it out before, because this technology seems in modern
times to be fairly simple. We've got smartphone, smart devices,
we got sensors and gadgets literally everywhere. But I was
immediately thinking that the response's time it was going to
(17:01):
sort of be this threat of penalty if you didn't
get there. So you know, we're keeping track of how
long it takes, you know, and it's going to be
a marker on your record if you let this person
lay in there for a couple hours after you learm goes.
But the idea that it has a reward system built
into it it does is great. I don't know, man,
And the record is there. You can show the patient's family,
(17:22):
look how quickly we were able to deal with this
and how often it happens, and it just is awesome.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
Well, interestingly, that same module monitors body temperature and it
will also indicate if somebody hasn't urinated in a certain
number of hours that they need fluids. So there's there's
a lot that goes into it beyond just the incontinence.
It monitors positioning, so if it looks like somebody is
(17:51):
going to fall and they're in a bad positional, alert
on that. There's also a risk wearable device that's going
with it that monitors blood oxygen levels, It'll monitor heart
rate for techocardia bradycardia. It'll alert phones to the staff
on that as well as temperature device there. So you
(18:13):
can imagine in some facilities somebody could have a fever
for a long time before it's detected. We could have
pneumonia developing or some other viral infection things like that.
There's work being done on some dressings with chips embedded
that would alert staff to when a wound dressing needs
(18:35):
to be changed because it's saturated with exedate with blood.
There's neglect there. It's basically the idea is use technology
to identify potential needs, alert staff carrying smart devices to
go check that resident and assess and deal with that need,
(18:58):
and then document with the software how well everybody did
an alert went out, did they respond and how fast.
I tell you, Roger, that's mind blowing. That is so cool,
and I can't imagine a facility not wanting to adopt that.
And again, going back to my litigation mindset, I mean,
(19:20):
this would avoid so many problems, so many potential lawsuits,
would avoid so much heartbreak, It would avoid so much
death and struggles and pain that goes along with all
these conditions that manifest themselves because of neglect. Boom problem solved,
Roger King, Patty Scott, it's again heart the Number four
Seniors dot Org. Amazing stuff, wonderful developments technologically speaking, and
(19:45):
a brilliant concept. I applaud both of you for this.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Again.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
I keep thinking of my dad and what a wonderful
thing that would have been if had they had this technology.
Where he was and he was in again, I'm saying
he was in really pretty good hands, at least in
so far these institutions are concerned.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
Real quick, go ahead, yeah right now, Just for everybody's information.
This technology is in four nursing homes in Ohio. We're
expanding to six more in January. Our goal is to
get into fifty next year. We need funding, you know.
That's the whole purpose of Heart for Seniors to get
donations to help expand these concepts. And locally here it's
(20:27):
Batavia Nursing and Convalescent Center and Salem Woods has the
technology now and it's the staff's doing wonderfully with it,
and we're really proud of what we're accomplishing there.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
All right, Well, I assure you that Brian Thomas will
be making a donation to hard for Seniors dot org today. Wow,
as soon as I got enough time to fill out
the form here, which shouldn't take more than a couple
of minutes. But I God bless you for the work
you're doing, and I'll make the donation of my excuse
me having an allergy attack thinking of my dad, So
(20:59):
thanks for what you're doing. Good evening in studio too,
and we'll get to I guess we're going to take
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