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August 27, 2024 • 17 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Claybuck dot com in China.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Clay Travis and Fox sextims today at noon on fifty
five KRC the talk station. It's height five fifty five
kr C D Talks Station. A very happy Tuesday to you,
made extra special every Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
At this time because now is when we get the
inside scoop from Breitbart News Today the return of Kalamadi
and he is the tech editor at Breitbart and bookmarket folks.
I would like to start out the segment reminding you
it's b R E I T B A R T
Breitbart dot Com. Some great reporting there and of course
outside of the the legacy media Columbadi and welcome back
to the fifty five KRC Morning Show. My friend's a

(00:39):
pleasure to have you on today and the time. He
couldn't be better considering what happened to paveld Durrov.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Absolutely, Brian happy to be here with you.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
He was the founder of this apparently wildly, wildly popular
social media program. It's a platform I guess analogous to
a Twitter or a TikTok or something, but it's called Telegram.
And he was arrested not from what he did, but
apparently what he didn't do. He allowed people to speak
their mind and engage in the free exercise of ideas,

(01:08):
including some kind of terrible stuff, you know, terrorism and
racism or whatever whatever. The European Union is deemed in
its infinite wisdom to be verboten. He got arrested for
it merely because he provided the platform. Are they not
aware of? Like, for example, Colin, I have to throw
this one out there. You can say whatever you want
and someone whatever you want through the mail, You can

(01:29):
talk to and say whatever you want on a telephone,
and you can even go right now, I'm looking at
it to Amazon and get a copy of The Anarchist Cookbook, which,
according to the author, I detailed advice concerning electronics, sabotage, surveillance,
date on everything from bugs to scramblers. There's a comprehensive
chapter on natural, non lethal and lethal weapons, running the
gamut from cattle prodz to submachine guns to bows and arrows.

(01:51):
The section on explosives and booby trap ranges from TNT
to whistle traps. He goes on, But there it is.
It's free speech. It's a published book. You can go
buy it. They're not being held accountable for that, Colin.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
You know, it's a great point, Brian, and it's France
looks worse and worse every day as this telegram situation unfolds.
And there's a number of reasons why. The latest is,
you know, they're coming at him. One of the charges
is related to, you know, child pornography being spread on

(02:25):
this platform and you know, related sexual imagery. Now, the
problem with that is the greatest spreader of child pornography
and discussing sexual imagery on earth is Mark Zuckerberg on
Instagram and Facebook. You don't see him quicking in his
boots worrying about France arresting him. So what we're seeing

(02:48):
here because the political prosecution, you know, being covered up
as oh, it's for the children, and oh it's the
fight drugs, which is you know, kind of familiar language.
Does in the US we see the left saying that,
you know, this is why we got a combat free speech.
To me, what's really going on here is an extension

(03:09):
of what we've seen unfolding around all of Europe. Like
in the UK. The problem to these powerful governments aren't
the crimes being committed like the horrible, horrific knife murders
of children, the problem isn't that crime. The problem is
people talking about that crime. That's what England is throwing
people in jail for. And now France has thrown this guy.

(03:33):
You know, he made the unfortunate decision to take French citizenship,
which I don't think anyone should ever do that. I
would advise against it, just not because it's France. But
in this case, you know, this Russian born guy has
his platform with a couple of billion users and he
landed at an airport to go to his house and
he was thrown in jail. And the reason is the
government doesn't like what people are saying to each other

(03:55):
on his platform.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
But again, you know, nothing more effect than the exploitation
of children for any reason whatsoever. It is a crime
to do that. If people are exchanging this information on
this social media platform, they are engaging in criminal activity,
I will admit. But then again, if you want child porn,
I suppose you could put in the US mail and
mail it to whoever you want to send it to.

(04:18):
The US mail is not going to be responsible for
the content of what's in any given envelope or container.
You have committed a crime. They could go after the
people who perpetrated these acts of horrific evil by virtue
of them being and having a presence on this particular site,
it would make their job that much easier, it seems
to me, Colin.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah, if you want to clean up child pornography, and
I certainly do it. Yeah, But you know, it's a
major issue that we cover extensively at Bright Part. It's
one of the largest problems on the Internet is grooming
and child pornography and how those crimes are facilitated by
the Internet. You don't go after the head of the
platform with the exception of trying to force them to

(05:02):
actually enforce rules and figure these things out. You go
after the people spreading it, because there's people making millions
of dollars, if not billions, in facilitating these crimes. So
you know that's not Francis answer. Francis answer is we
must arrest this guy and try to shut down his
platform because of these you know, these Trump charges essentially.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Well, and moving away from the obvious horrors of child
pornography over to what you pointed out is happening in England.
That is political discourse. If there are people rioting in
the streets, people are going to have comments on it,
they're either going to approve it, they're going to be
against it. They're going to point to the evil doers
and make comments about them. They're going to point to
the perpetrators of violence and say things about them, either

(05:49):
supportive or against them. And this is all important political discourse.
But if you utter a syllable that, for whatever reason,
in support of maybe the the rioters who are upset
about the state of the immigration system, that should be
supported by government rather than going after people for their utterances.
If they want to arrest someone who's broken the law,

(06:09):
there they are right out in the street. If they're
breaking things, arrest them for their crimes. But you can't
arrest me for having a comment in observation about those crimes.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Well, Brian, you through no fault of your own, because
I share it. Have a very American centric view of speech.
You know what I've learned over my decade at Breitbart
from working with people in Europe is Europeans don't think
like us. Europeans don't think you have the right to say, golly,

(06:43):
these folks should not be murdering children with nice because
they will throw you in jail for that. And I
can tell you that some of my colleagues in Europe
are privately making plans. What do I do if I'm
arrested for publishing the truth on Breitbart dot Com? What,
you know, how do I get my family out of
the United Kingdom? You know, which is shocking to us

(07:04):
to believe, because we consider these countries, you know, essentially
equivalent to the US. You know, we look at English
culture and think it you know, in many ways it's
very similar to us. But they use some funny words
for things, right, Like they call potato chips crisps, and
they're so silly, you know. In fact, there's a basic

(07:25):
difference in how we consider free speech and associated topics.
So where I'm kind of taking conversations on this subject
with people in America is you need to reconsider a
European vacation. You know, the Brian Thomas's of the world,
the column the Darns of the world, could get arrested
if we go to Europe. You know, I don't think

(07:47):
that's beyond the pale, because they really don't like the
concept that you Brian Thomas can sit down at the
microphone and speak truth that the government doesn't like.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
That is uh, you know, it's interesting.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
It's been for a long time.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
In France. I have a longtime friend. I went to
church with him growing up, and he has been a
French citizen for decades now. He married a French girl
and he majored in France, so he's fluent in the language.
But I was speaking out against our government over the
dinner table once when he was in town, and he
looked at me and he goes, wow, He goes, you know,
you couldn't even say that kind of thing in France.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
What right?

Speaker 4 (08:23):
The first time I ever heard that, The first time
I'd ever heard that. I'm like, it's like a core
American principle is speaking out against the government and screaming
your head off what these chuckleheads are doing to us.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
And there's another layer there, Brian, which is their media
is even more captured by the establishment than ours. You know,
I would joke that if you turned on CNN for
a random French person, they would almost think it's scandalous
and independent media, right, because when you look at like
the AFP and Lamond and these other French media sources,

(08:59):
English media versus, they're not going to go outside of
what the government wants. Unless it's things like we hack
the cell phones of these celebrities and look a look
at the celebrity gossip there. They might have the free media,
but when it's things like, you know, major world issues
and major national issues in these nations, they're marching to

(09:21):
the be, to the government, you know, without exception. And
that's why you know, we have many bright part readers
in Europe because we have a London team and a
focus on European affairs. And it's even shocking in our
internal messaging systems when we see messages from lawyers saying

(09:42):
things like don't talk about this because it's illegal. That's
not something we normally hear in America. It's kind of
contrary to our mindset. But the more I think about it, Brian,
you know, don't you think the left would love for
that to be how it is here? You know what
they love for example.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Well, I mean look what they went through. I mean,
just hot news off the press. Zuckerberg's letter to Jim
Jordan acknowledging that he was pressured by the Biden Harrison
administration to suppress various topics of conversation which ultimately turned
out to be true things we were saying about COVID
nineteen during the time, as well as the comments about
the Hunter Biden laptop, which, oh my god, with the

(10:21):
benefit of hindsight, he says, we should have allowed that,
and we promised we're not going to do that again
until all the information's in and allow you to engage
in the free discourse. And we all don't believe that
as far as we could throw Mark Zuckerberg from a
mile away, but you know that's the point being that's
what our government tried to do through internal pressure. You
pointed out that, you know, Mark Zuckerberg isn't afraid of

(10:43):
getting locked up. Maybe that's because he's got friends in
the administration who have promised him we will never come
after you as long as you do our will.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Well, Brian, it's you know, he's even deeper than friends
in the administration, which he certainly has. You know, the
the one of the very top executives of Facebook is
the former Deputy Prime Minister of the UK. You know,
he's got juice with the global deep state. He's not
losing any sleep about any anything posted on his platforms

(11:14):
that are getting other tech CEOs arrested.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Well and Colin do you feel that that is part
of the problem with this unregulated, unmitigated flow of illegal
immigrants into our country. As you point out, we are
one of the few, if not only, countries on the
planet that has a First Amendment that is very well protected.
We literally can say, I mean, with very little exception,
almost anything we want. We believe in the free exchange
of ideas, and we believe that the more we talk

(11:38):
about something, the more elevated our conversation becomes, and the more,
you know, the better our solutions come through conversation, the
exchange of ideas. You have a bunch of people flowing
in from the four corners of the globe that have
no connection with that, and like my friend from France
can't believe that we can even say things like that.
That's their mindset and that's culturally transforming.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
Well, that's right. That's certainly what Europe's gone through, and
that's what we're going through. And even in different ways.
If you look at Canada, they flooded Canada with Indian
immigrants who are not you know, they don't share the
values of Canadians and they're not sort of becoming Canadians, right.
I think what you've hit on is generation after generation,

(12:25):
especially in this country, people do come from the four
corners of the Earth and they learn English and their
kids kind of come out as Americans, right, you know,
first and second generation Americans from wherever they came from, Ukraine, Russia, Ireland,

(12:45):
like my forefathers. That's how America's always worked. Now we're
seeing folks come and it's not limited to one culture
or one country. There's no incentive for that to happen
other it's almost they're almost incentivized to keep their language
and their culture and their values which are foreign on us.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
And of course they haven't become naturalized citizens or the
appropriate immigration process where you are taught civics and the
founding principles of our country. They don't even teach that
to our own children and our own schools these days, Colin, No,
they don't.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
They're they're learning their genders and their their gender identity flags,
but not you know, the American flag and what it
stands for. So you know, what I personally worry about
is the result of what you've just described, the lack
of integration, the lack of American values. To me, that

(13:42):
weakens things like the first Amendment because you have a
generation who multiple generations now who would rather you not
have the right to free speech if it is inconvenient
for them or their side. And you know, as you
know it certainly is a lawyer, and as the talk
show host, the first Amendment is exactly for pizza. That's

(14:04):
not convenience, because no one needs to protect the speech
that everyone agrees about, right, there's no rest to that speech.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
It shall be illegal for you to make an utterance
that causes somebody else cognitive dissonance, Collin.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
And what and tech companies like you know, Facebook being
one of the worst, have sort of taken that approach
because you know, what Zuckerberg and friends do is when
Breitbart publishes articles about illegal immigration that are inconvenient and
sure facts they don't like, they use their algorithms to

(14:40):
basically memory hold them, you know, to make it so
very few people read that.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
I understand that all day long, Colin. That's why you
have to post things in a certain way to remind
people that there is Breitbart out there, Breitbart dot com.
If you don't put a direct link to the Breitbart article,
but you maybe capture a headline or refer people over
it in an indirect way. Your content will be seen
if you link something specifically, no one will see it.
If I say Happy Friday, which I do every Friday

(15:06):
on Facebook, Colin, I'll get hundreds of people saying happy
Friday to you are making nice comments. If I were
to link any article from Breitbart, I bet no one
would see it. I've done this test on a number
of different occasions and not a single chime, not a
negative comment, not a positive comment, no thumbs up, just silence.
And I'll even go back later Sai, didn't anybody see
my post? And like what post exactly?

Speaker 3 (15:30):
And it's designing to make you feel a little bit crazy.
It's a form of gaslighting. It is you know, it
makes you say, gee, does no one care about this issue? No,
they're just not seeing its algorithm why Internally we sometimes
refer to Mark Zuckerberg as the editor of the Internet
because he decides what you see, you catch off.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
I could laugh at it, but it's a sorry state
of affairs. But it's truth and that's what I like
talking about here on the fifty five Cases in the
Morning Show. Colin and I and tech editor at Breitbart,
keep up the great work. It's always a wonderful thing
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