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White House correspondent Nick Gilbertson's writing about. Welcome back, Nick Gilbertson,
writing on Trump in the Middle East piece, You ever
thought you'd see the day you got two dozen world leaders,
big ones too, Egyptian president, the Americutter, you got the
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Turkish president. They're all standing there signing documents to put
an end to this ridiculous war between Israel and Gaza.
It's an amazing accomplishment, Nick, Welcome back. It's good to
hear from me this morning.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Hey Brian, it's great to be here. And certainly yeah, no,
it's a I think this is Trump's crowning achievement thus
far in his term. And you know, it's pretty amazing.
I think some thirty countries were there, yes, from all
over the world, so just really remarkable, remarkable stuff and
what to show you to be.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
And there's a lot of details that need to be
ironed out. I know one of the remains of the
deceased hostages, which is sad in and of itself that
we were talking about. You know, they didn't even keep
the hostages alive. A lot of them died, so we've
got that really black mark on the whole process. But
finding the remains of the balance of them. Hamas claims
that it doesn't even know where they are. There's so
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many different I suppose factions of Hamas out in the world.
They're fighting amongst themselves now. But are these like splitter
groups within the Hamas umbrella that are keeping these the
dead hostages.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, I think at this point there's been so all
twenty of the living hostages were you know, returned right
day and reunited. But I know they were saying that
there were twenty. They believed the presidents of last week
that we're still or that that were deceased tragically, horrifically
and I know they returned. For of the deceased, I
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don't think they've been identified yet those remains. So by
deduction there there's twenty four bodies that need to be
you know, relocated and recovered and brought home and returned
to their loved ones.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Do we know right now? One of the original terms
of the twenty point plan that Donald Trump rolled out
was HAMAS must disarm. A question have they agreed to
do that? And second question is sort of a follow
up to the where are the dead hostages? If HAMAS
doesn't even know within its multiple splitter organizations where the
dead hostages are, can it really agree on behalf of
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you know, like the I don't know campaign for Free
Galilee subset of Hamas. Can they guarantee that all of
these different entities would disarm?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
That's a that's a great question, Brian. And I know
the President said yesterday and these other countries that were
kind of intra are key here in bringing this deal about.
And I know, uh, you know, like Egypt, Turkey, Katar,
all those other countries. President Trump when when he was
talking about supporting Gaza yesterday, he put a major emphasis
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on militarization of Gaza, you know, of of of the
police and or rather of Gozzin's and he was talking
about a police force that would kind of, you know,
be be separate and kind of you know, keep order
in Gaza, but a heavy emphasis on demilitarization. And I
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think the term he used was an honest civilian police
force to create, you know, a safe condition for the
people in Gaza. So I know that's where we put
a heavy emphasis on. So again, we'll we'll see. And
this is all very uh, you know, as this piece still,
I think they're on step six or seven somewhere in
or seven or so. Yeah. This as this goes on,
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I mean, so far, so good, right, but you know,
we'll see how things continue to work.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Out well, Nick, And I hate to be honest with you,
I want to be very optimistic, but I'm old enough
to remember, you know, everyone in every presidential administration since
I've been born has been trying to negotiate peace in
the Middle East. It doesn't often and hardly ever if
it ever works out. I know, with the Abraham of Corns,
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Donald Trump made some really great inroads and getting folks
to play nicely together for their own economic benefit. I mean,
who can argue with that? Hey, if we quit fighting
and spending all of our money on guns in military,
we might have booming economies. There's an idea. But how
do you feel about this going forward? The devil's always
in the details, as I've said too many times, But
you got six of the steps toward twenty being accomplished,
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and there are some large stumbling blocks, notably disarmament and
then how much of the of the Goza territories? Ill
is Israel going to control if any and who's going
to govern? Lord knows they need better government than Hamas.
So what about those items? Nick?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah? Absolutely, I think I think one thing that is good.
You know, they have going for them here, every everybody
in the steel has going for them as the presence
of President Trump. And I think, you know Secretary of
State Marco Rubio down to Special Envoy Steve witcoff right,
And I think as they go along through this, if
there are any hiccups, I think, you know, these are
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very competent people, and I think they've shown that they can,
you know, bring bring different people to the table, kind
of work things out between them, whether it be the
character or the stick right, and I think that that's
a that's a that's a critical thing here, and that's
something we certainly didn't see in the last administration. That
couldn't even you know, get the ball rolling any anywhere
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close to a potential piece deal here. And so I think,
you know, yeah, well, we'll see how it all shakes out. Again.
Everything's you know, very tensitive here, but I think so far,
so good. And I think that was such a strong
showing yesterday too in the region to have all those
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different leaders kind of kind of come together, you know,
I think it's I think it's a very promising sign
and a positive one. So that's that's that's what I
can share that well.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
And I suppose that there was a lot of maybe
i'll use the word pressure, whether or not was pressure
or not to get all of those world leaders to
appear to sort of as a massive showing of force
against Hamas. The rest of the world is on one side
of the argument, you're on the other. I mean, you're
in a losing position, Hamas. I think that was on
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full display yesterday.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Absolutely you had countries represented from from every single continent.
I think even the President of Paraguay was there yesterday
from the uh, the all important. But I think that
just goes to show what a what a broad coalition
of countries were present yesterday. And then you know you
had all these not just Trump, right, but you had
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Western leaders from uh, you know, I think Native Secretary
General Secretary Mark Mark Rudy. You had Italian Prime Minister
Georgia Maloney, uh uh, Keir Starmer, the British Prime Minister
Emmanuel McCrone from France, Mark Carney from Canada. So really,
you know, you have the Western world involved. You had
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all these countries from Asia as well. I believe you
had a Japan over there, and then even countries that
Trump has already broken peace deals with, right so our
media Azerbaijan, they were there together. Trump just ended you know,
I believe a thirty plus a or something war between
those two countries a few months ago, one of you know,
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seven dealsies made that have held up between country. He's
leading up to this right between, you know, bringing Jamas
to the table and getting them to accept this deal.
So you know, he's got eight so far under his
belt since returning to office in January, kind of averaging
one a month's here, and I think, you know, this
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is a granddaddy of them all.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
So far, it is truly remarkable, Nick, as you run
through that, it's just absolutely amazing in such a short
period of time. You know, I can be a critic
of Donald Trump from time to time, and everybody is
worthy of some measure of criticism. No one walks on water.
But I mean, just since January of this year, how
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much he's been able to accomplish. I mean, I don't know.
I just I'm amazed at what this, what Donald Trump
has been able to do. And the other component of this,
which is allowed for this peace process to move forward,
Egypt finally opened its border up so we can have
the flow of humanity going back and forth into the region.
That that was a huge.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Hurdle, absolutely, And I think that that goes to show
to how how President Trump's relationship with Cisi over there
is just very different from how Obama and Biden kind
of alienated Egypt as an ally. And so, you know, again,
I think it goes to show Trump. Trump being the
ultimate deal maker and and pragmatists. He works with what
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he has right, what you give him, and you know,
he's he's very good at understanding what's going to motivate
people and what won't. And I we've literally seen this
from him for the past what fifty years, going back
to his part his private sector days, you know, when
he was kind of repainting the skyline there in New
York City. So for me, it's it's it's truly remarkable stuff.
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And yeah, it's it's it's quite something.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Well, I'll tell you what I think to go ah.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Oh yeah, And I think too, you know, I just
people forget too. Like two months ago, he just like
brokeer this amazing or rather historic trade deal between the
European Union and in the United States. I think, you know,
just just whether it be deadlines. He hit Tamas with
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this pretty pretty serious statement on October thirties, like he said, look,
this is the last chance for a master agree or
quote all hell like no one has ever seen will
break out against it, right, And you know, within a
couple hours you get them agreeing to come to the table.
And and we've seen just Trump use the deadline over
and over and over again, whether it be the tariffs,
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whether it be with his legislative agenda with one big
beautiful bill. He's he's very good at this and bringing
different sides together and getting them to agree to this.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Well, Nick, because he follows through, unlike Barack Obama, who
drew red lines left and right and never did bother
do anything after someone crossed the red lines, almost an
open defiance of Barack Obama, and to a certain degree,
to the extent Joe Biden did anything, no one paid
any attention to what he was doing. I mean, if
you don't listen to Trump, he tells you exactly what
he's going to do and then pull then delivers on it.
So yeah, I think that all hell's going to break.
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Luke's comment in the wake of an aftermath of him
bombing the hell out of Iran with those bunker busters,
with Israel bombing Cutter, with whom they have no adversarial relationship.
If you got Hamas in your house, We're going to
come after your house. I mean, these are all realities
that everybody was facing. So yes, a strong president who
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delivers on his red lines needs to be taken seriously.
Let me ask you this along those lines, Nick, what
does Iran make of this? If you can guess, and
I want to put you on the spot, but Iran's
got to be I think a little bit uh concerned
about these developments.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah, I think, you know, this isn't good for Iran.
Yesterday and they're dealing with these massive sanctions. You know,
Trump just kind of set there or you know, made
their neutralize their nuclear program a few months ago with
those strikes on Cordona Tons. That's pahand like you were,
like you were saying, and that you know, sends a
message to everybody else too, that's a side thing. But yeah,
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I think, uh, you know this that you have all
these countries in the region and you know, kind of
pushing towards a stabilized region, pushing towards peace. And you
know when we see this, this happened with Hamas yesterday.
I mean if if I think that goes to show
you know, Hamas is a cell essentially right of Iran.
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They get funding from there, they traditionally did, so I
think that goes to show, you know, the weakness of Iran.
You know, the President Trump said yesterday he thinks Iran
what wants to make a deal, wants to come along
and make a deal eventually. So he was kind of said, look, uh,
you know, I hope to talk to them and eventually
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right when they want to come to the table, and
he said he wants to take the sanctions off and
he wants to see Iran prosper also noting too, like
they can't survive with with these massive sanctions they're facing.
So basically seriously, you know, using using the stick there
pretty heavy, also offering the carrot in terms of you know,
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wanting to bring the Middle wanting to bring them into
you know, uh uh, you.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Know, a peaceful coalition.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Exactly exactly, You've got the words for me. But President
Trump said yesterday too, I think, you know, the Middle
East incredible destiny, and he said is a safe and prosperous,
beautiful crossroads of culture and commerce, faith in humanity, and
a geographic center. He also said it could be the
geographic center of the world. So I think that goes
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to show his vision. And that's that's also you know,
I ran could go down that path. I think if
if they made an honest and earnest effort and showed
President Trump that they wanted to, then again, if if
they don't want to, you know, you can uh because
and trumpell, you know, we'll do what he feels he
needs to do.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Right clearly. Well, and you know, honestly, if you step
back from whatever is driving and motivating them, and I
would I would say it's obviously it's hatred toward Israel.
It's religious fundamentalism. There is the core of their problems.
If they just walked away from that ideology and said,
all right, we're going to be Muslims, they're going to
be Islamic, We're going to be you know, enjoy our
own faith. But you know what, it's not worth fighting
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with our next door neighbor. It's costing us. It's our
economy's ruin. We have nothing to show for all of
this war for decades and decades, if not centuries. If
we just put down our war weapons machine and just
start talking about commerce and industry, we're going to have
a healthy, prosperous country and we can just abide our
own religion within our own within the four corners of
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our own country. Problem solved.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah, I think that's that's literally the easiest route for
them to take, right, Like, you know, but obviously, you know,
there's there's there's all sorts of years of fundamentals that
have taken place, all sorts of youths that were raised
under this too. So again, you know, it's it's it's
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you know, it's kind of hard to read the tea leaves,
but it's it looks peace looks promising right now, especially
after yesterday, especially that show of unity. You know, you
have again from around the globe, every single continent essentially
represent maybe not Australia, right, but uh yeah, I think
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it shows the show of unity and the show where
everybody wants this to go and everybody's kind of on
the same page here. And and I think the key
is those other Arab countries in the region that are
you know, brought into this prosperous coalition already as you said,
and you know, want to uphold that and even broad
in it, expand it. And look, I think if you
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can bring peace to the region too, like, imagine what
this does for a potential trade route maybe, right, or
what could mean for that. I know much was made
in the first term about a potential Imat corridor, right
and that run from India through the Middle East, through
Europe into the United States. So you know, peace in
the Middle East would be massive for that. And I'm
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sure China is a little worried about about what happened
yesterday too, so pretty interesting stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Hey, doors wide open for peace. Everyone prospers with peace,
read about it every single day. White House Correspondent Nick Gilbertson,
always a wonderful conversation with you. I appreciate you and
everybody at Breitbart is doing each day. And again we'll
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Until we talk again, have a great day and week,
my friend.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
You too, Brian, Thanks again for having.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Me, always a pleasure. Eight twenty two. Right now, stick
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