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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Die for your nine first morning weather. Whole cast cold
out there, going up to twenty one degrees, sunny skies
though overnight low of twelve clouds through a win. We
do have some snow flurries possible tomorrow, Isolated flurries in
the morning, it's more maybe snow in the afternoon. High
a thirty three overnight low of twenty three with a
few flurries possible. Finally, it'll be a dry Friday, partly
(00:24):
cloudy thirty nine the high, and then rain is supposed
to kick in overnight and into the Saturday morning. Right now,
one degree fifty five krc DE talk station Chuck Ingram,
what's going on out there.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
From the ucl Traffic Center. Don't let injuries slow you down.
The UC Health Orthopedic sand sports medicine experts can help
keep you moving. Schedule a same day appointment at ucehealth
dot com. Cruise continue to work for the wreck eastbound
two seventy five before the Riggan Highway. Traffic is banking
up past the seventy four ramps in Bend. Seventy four
slows from above Montana. There's an accidents southbound seventy one
(00:57):
at the two seventy five ramp Kingram on fifty five
KRC The Talk Station.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
A twenty nine and fifty five KRC he Talk Station.
A very happy Wednesday to you. Always a great time
to be listening to the fifty five CARSS Morning Show.
Appointment listening is what I call it, and I sit
on the edge of my seat waiting around for Wednesdays
at eight thirty to talk to Judge Andrew Nepolitana. Welcome back,
my dear friend. It's a real pleasure to have you
on him.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
What a shot.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
He froze up? What happened, Joe, Well, we'll have to
reboot him. Okay, there he is, Okay, you are back.
You're not chopliff. You almost got it out before the
before the network froze up there. But now I you know,
some of the days, like I said, he does traffic
(01:48):
for about nineteen or twenty different cities. May be an exaggeration,
but sometimes he just forgets so apologies for that. I
think you lost track of what day of the week
it was, because you know, he's not allowed out of
the room. Back there, right, he.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Got me back. His gremlins canceled my video for about
two seconds.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
That's okay. I can see you again. It's always a
pleasure seeing you're still in your second your second studio.
You're still in New York.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I am. I tried to get the virtual background on
so I could fool you and you would think I
was in New Jersey, but I couldn't get it to
go on this morning, So.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
You make okay, So I'm supposed to feel sorry for
you because you're in New York or okay, I'll just
let that sit anyway. Please do please do a switch
in time. You know almost anticipated you know, if you
had asked me before I got the copy of your column,
which comes out tonight at midnight, what you might talk about.
(02:46):
I thought, you know, perhaps Tulsea Gabbard might be on
the list.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
What Shakespeare once said, Lily's that fester smell far worse
than weeds. There is no worse enemy than a former friend.
And when she was nominated, or when Donald Trump, the
President elect, indicated his intention to nominate her to run
(03:13):
all of the intelligence agencies, those of us in the
libertarian world, those of us who believe that the Constitution,
in this case, the Fourth Amendment, means what it says,
were overjoyed. It was almost too good to be true
because as a member of Congress, Telsey Gabbard, her speeches
could have been written by Congressman Thomas Massy, or Brian Thomas,
(03:36):
or even me. She fiercely opposed mass warrantless spying. She
voted against the congressional unconstitutional but legal authorizations for all
of this nominated by Trump. Gets beaten up in the
press a little bit by the Deep State and by
(03:57):
their Republican accolytes, and she does a one hundred and
eighty degree flip. I'm now in favor of section seven
oh two. Seven oh two is the section of the
Paisa Act which was written after Edward Snowden's revelations in
order to make legal the unconstitutional warrantless spying on every
(04:19):
American that Snowden revealed. And the way they did this
was to say, well, we have to be able to
spy on foreign persons. The fourth and moment doesn't apply
to foreigners. That it applies to everybody. Just read the language.
It applies to all people. Foreign persons are people, so
we can spy without warrants on foreign persons. So what
happens when those foreigners talk to Americans? What happens when
(04:42):
I talk to my cousins in Florence, or an art
dealer in Geneva or a bookseller in London, Well, then
they can listen to that person's calls, not just with me,
but all of their calls. And they can listen to
my calls because I spoke to a foreign person, and
not just my calls, but everybody that I talked to
(05:02):
and everybody that they talk to, and carry that out
to the sixth generation of conversations. Do the math that
covers all three hundred and thirty million Americans in spite
on without warrants legally under Section seven oh two, profoundly unconstitutional,
condemned and rejected by Telsea Gabbert, and now embraced by her.
(05:25):
So she can get this job, Well, it would be
like me being nominated for the Supreme Court, and in
order to get confirmed, I came out and said, I'm
in favor of the American government spying and everybody. The
Fourth Amendment doesn't mean what it says.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Well, I know you would never say that much in
the same way you said you would say you never
embrace abortion. But beyond that did she offered up an
explanation for her dramatic flip.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
No, she has not, And I'm I don't know if
there's anybody on the Senate Intelligence Committee which will ate her,
who shares our views. My guess is there is not. Normally,
the powers that be do not put a person on
either the Senator or the House Intelligence Committee who believes
that the intelligence community should comply with the Constitution like
(06:15):
the rest of the government. So I don't know if
anybody is going to ask her this. Her flip was
not made public. It was just leaked out by the
Trump transition team. It's mind boggling. President Trump knows he
knows this because I explained it to him personally privately.
This is the part of the law that was used
(06:39):
to spy on you and me when I was in
your office in Trump Tower, before you were the president
of the United States. And this is the part of
the law that Jim Comey, whom you fired and company
used to spy on you during your first term in office.
And now this second part I didn't say to him
because I haven't spoken to him recently. And you want
(07:02):
her to embrace this part of the law.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
It really is mind boggling. And who more than a
president of the United States of America talks to foreigners.
I mean, he talks to foreign leaders all the time.
He's already opened the door of him to firms to
be you know, just literally spied on because he has
communications with foreign leaders. It's part of his job requirement.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
You know. I once asked one of my ex CIA
guys that's on Judging Freedom, does the intelligence community spy
on the White House? And sort of a guilty look
appeared in his face, and he said yes. But if
I had answered this question truthfully while I was still
(07:48):
in the government's employee I'd be looking for work.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Then I said, does Massad spy on the White House?
And he said more effectively than our own intelligence agencies do. Wow.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Is right? Well, apparently the Israelis do have the best
spy operation around. That's a room or on the street. Anyway, Now,
let me just qualify this or at least further dive
into it, because you know, having a conversation, you know,
one presumes this is sort of a telephone call, you
may say, when you call your aunt in Naples or whatever,
(08:24):
but this would also be online communications as well.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
If I am community, Yes, it's texting, it's emailing and
phone calling. It's all communications. What Snowden revealed. Snowdon's revelations
are now ten years old. Wow. But what Snowden revealed
is that every keystroke I'm holding up my iPhone on
every mobile device, every laptop, and every desktop is captured
(08:52):
by the FEDS. Now they captured in real time. They
don't monitor it in real time because they don't have
the assets, they don't have the human beings to monitor
it in real time. If they monitored it in real time,
a lot of these tragedies wouldn't occur. The tragedy and
Bourbon Street on New Year's Eve I think it was,
(09:14):
or maybe it was New Year's Day. By the time
it actually happened, that would never happen because they would
have seen all this guy's texts and emails, all the
plotting and planning that they now have. So if all
this spying on us is information overload to the point
where they can't even use it to keep us safe,
(09:34):
what is the value of it? Indeed, I only have
it unconstitutional. Not only is it a violation of our
natural rights, it doesn't work well.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
And to the extent they said, well, we can use
it in prosecutions after the fact, you know, to prove
motive and to sort of support the allegations against them
for murder or terrorism or what have you. But that
would open the door to someone making a legal challenge
in core like along the lines of emotion to suppress
and go after that.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
That's the last thing that they want. I will never
introduce this evidence because the last thing they want is
for some federal judge to invalidate the statute. There are
portions of the Patriot Act that have been invalidated by
federal judges, three or four in southern California, have one
very famously involved in the Bridgeport librarians in Connecticut. None
(10:29):
of those invalidations were appealed to circuit courts because of facts,
were terrified they'd be affirmed. So all they try to
do now is avoid those particular federal judges.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
That's a disgrace, indeed it is. And let me just
suggest that you make a very valid point information overload,
there's no possible way anyone could ever real time monitor this.
Maybe that's what the big rush for artificial intelligence is,
because maybe AI could process this filter through language and
shoot up red flags for communications that contain sort of
(11:01):
warning sign language in it.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Probably probably so, George Orwell was right. He was just
off by a couple of years.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
No question about it. Well as we always do. Let's
end the segment on judging freedom your podcasts, and I
encourage my listeners to find it online. And who are
you going to be speaking with today, sir?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
I have Aaron Mate today, Pepe Escobar, Phil Geraldy and
tomorrow the great You should have been seated where Pete
Hegseth was yesterday. But life doesn't always work out for
the best. Colonel Douglas McGregor.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
All right, great line up, your honor, and always a
great conversation with you. I appreciate your thoughtful analysis and
your ongoing support of the Fourth Amendment, in spite of
the fact that no one in power seems to Carol
Witt about it until next Wednesday, my friend, best of health.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Thank you, Brian. Right back at you.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
My pleasure, sir. It's eight forty right now. I fifty
five KRC
Speaker 3 (11:54):
The talk station, fifty five KARC
Die for your nine first morning weather. Whole cast cold
out there, going up to twenty one degrees, sunny skies
though overnight low of twelve clouds through a win. We
do have some snow flurries possible tomorrow, Isolated flurries in
the morning, it's more maybe snow in the afternoon. High
a thirty three overnight low of twenty three with a
few flurries possible. Finally, it'll be a dry Friday, partly
(00:24):
cloudy thirty nine the high, and then rain is supposed
to kick in overnight and into the Saturday morning. Right now,
one degree fifty five krc DE talk station Chuck Ingram,
what's going on out there.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
From the ucl Traffic Center. Don't let injuries slow you down.
The UC Health Orthopedic sand sports medicine experts can help
keep you moving. Schedule a same day appointment at ucehealth
dot com. Cruise continue to work for the wreck eastbound
two seventy five before the Riggan Highway. Traffic is banking
up past the seventy four ramps in Bend. Seventy four
slows from above Montana. There's an accidents southbound seventy one
(00:57):
at the two seventy five ramp Kingram on fifty five
KRC The Talk Station.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
A twenty nine and fifty five KRC he Talk Station.
A very happy Wednesday to you. Always a great time
to be listening to the fifty five CARSS Morning Show.
Appointment listening is what I call it, and I sit
on the edge of my seat waiting around for Wednesdays
at eight thirty to talk to Judge Andrew Nepolitana. Welcome back,
my dear friend. It's a real pleasure to have you
on him.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
What a shot.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
He froze up? What happened, Joe, Well, we'll have to
reboot him. Okay, there he is, Okay, you are back.
You're not chopliff. You almost got it out before the
before the network froze up there. But now I you know,
some of the days, like I said, he does traffic
(01:48):
for about nineteen or twenty different cities. May be an exaggeration,
but sometimes he just forgets so apologies for that. I
think you lost track of what day of the week
it was, because you know, he's not allowed out of
the room. Back there, right, he.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Got me back. His gremlins canceled my video for about
two seconds.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
That's okay. I can see you again. It's always a
pleasure seeing you're still in your second your second studio.
You're still in New York.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I am. I tried to get the virtual background on
so I could fool you and you would think I
was in New Jersey, but I couldn't get it to
go on this morning, So.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
You make okay, So I'm supposed to feel sorry for
you because you're in New York or okay, I'll just
let that sit anyway. Please do please do a switch
in time. You know almost anticipated you know, if you
had asked me before I got the copy of your column,
which comes out tonight at midnight, what you might talk about.
(02:46):
I thought, you know, perhaps Tulsea Gabbard might be on
the list.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
What Shakespeare once said, Lily's that fester smell far worse
than weeds. There is no worse enemy than a former friend.
And when she was nominated, or when Donald Trump, the
President elect, indicated his intention to nominate her to run
(03:13):
all of the intelligence agencies, those of us in the
libertarian world, those of us who believe that the Constitution,
in this case, the Fourth Amendment, means what it says,
were overjoyed. It was almost too good to be true
because as a member of Congress, Telsey Gabbard, her speeches
could have been written by Congressman Thomas Massy, or Brian Thomas,
(03:36):
or even me. She fiercely opposed mass warrantless spying. She
voted against the congressional unconstitutional but legal authorizations for all
of this nominated by Trump. Gets beaten up in the
press a little bit by the Deep State and by
(03:57):
their Republican accolytes, and she does a one hundred and
eighty degree flip. I'm now in favor of section seven
oh two. Seven oh two is the section of the
Paisa Act which was written after Edward Snowden's revelations in
order to make legal the unconstitutional warrantless spying on every
(04:19):
American that Snowden revealed. And the way they did this
was to say, well, we have to be able to
spy on foreign persons. The fourth and moment doesn't apply
to foreigners. That it applies to everybody. Just read the language.
It applies to all people. Foreign persons are people, so
we can spy without warrants on foreign persons. So what
happens when those foreigners talk to Americans? What happens when
(04:42):
I talk to my cousins in Florence, or an art
dealer in Geneva or a bookseller in London, Well, then
they can listen to that person's calls, not just with me,
but all of their calls. And they can listen to
my calls because I spoke to a foreign person, and
not just my calls, but everybody that I talked to
(05:02):
and everybody that they talk to, and carry that out
to the sixth generation of conversations. Do the math that
covers all three hundred and thirty million Americans in spite
on without warrants legally under Section seven oh two, profoundly unconstitutional,
condemned and rejected by Telsea Gabbert, and now embraced by her.
(05:25):
So she can get this job, Well, it would be
like me being nominated for the Supreme Court, and in
order to get confirmed, I came out and said, I'm
in favor of the American government spying and everybody. The
Fourth Amendment doesn't mean what it says.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Well, I know you would never say that much in
the same way you said you would say you never
embrace abortion. But beyond that did she offered up an
explanation for her dramatic flip.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
No, she has not, And I'm I don't know if
there's anybody on the Senate Intelligence Committee which will ate her,
who shares our views. My guess is there is not. Normally,
the powers that be do not put a person on
either the Senator or the House Intelligence Committee who believes
that the intelligence community should comply with the Constitution like
(06:15):
the rest of the government. So I don't know if
anybody is going to ask her this. Her flip was
not made public. It was just leaked out by the
Trump transition team. It's mind boggling. President Trump knows he
knows this because I explained it to him personally privately.
This is the part of the law that was used
(06:39):
to spy on you and me when I was in
your office in Trump Tower, before you were the president
of the United States. And this is the part of
the law that Jim Comey, whom you fired and company
used to spy on you during your first term in office.
And now this second part I didn't say to him
because I haven't spoken to him recently. And you want
(07:02):
her to embrace this part of the law.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
It really is mind boggling. And who more than a
president of the United States of America talks to foreigners.
I mean, he talks to foreign leaders all the time.
He's already opened the door of him to firms to
be you know, just literally spied on because he has
communications with foreign leaders. It's part of his job requirement.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
You know. I once asked one of my ex CIA
guys that's on Judging Freedom, does the intelligence community spy
on the White House? And sort of a guilty look
appeared in his face, and he said yes. But if
I had answered this question truthfully while I was still
(07:48):
in the government's employee I'd be looking for work.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Then I said, does Massad spy on the White House?
And he said more effectively than our own intelligence agencies do. Wow.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Is right? Well, apparently the Israelis do have the best
spy operation around. That's a room or on the street. Anyway, Now,
let me just qualify this or at least further dive
into it, because you know, having a conversation, you know,
one presumes this is sort of a telephone call, you
may say, when you call your aunt in Naples or whatever,
(08:24):
but this would also be online communications as well.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
If I am community, Yes, it's texting, it's emailing and
phone calling. It's all communications. What Snowden revealed. Snowdon's revelations
are now ten years old. Wow. But what Snowden revealed
is that every keystroke I'm holding up my iPhone on
every mobile device, every laptop, and every desktop is captured
(08:52):
by the FEDS. Now they captured in real time. They
don't monitor it in real time because they don't have
the assets, they don't have the human beings to monitor
it in real time. If they monitored it in real time,
a lot of these tragedies wouldn't occur. The tragedy and
Bourbon Street on New Year's Eve I think it was,
(09:14):
or maybe it was New Year's Day. By the time
it actually happened, that would never happen because they would
have seen all this guy's texts and emails, all the
plotting and planning that they now have. So if all
this spying on us is information overload to the point
where they can't even use it to keep us safe,
(09:34):
what is the value of it? Indeed, I only have
it unconstitutional. Not only is it a violation of our
natural rights, it doesn't work well.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
And to the extent they said, well, we can use
it in prosecutions after the fact, you know, to prove
motive and to sort of support the allegations against them
for murder or terrorism or what have you. But that
would open the door to someone making a legal challenge
in core like along the lines of emotion to suppress
and go after that.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
That's the last thing that they want. I will never
introduce this evidence because the last thing they want is
for some federal judge to invalidate the statute. There are
portions of the Patriot Act that have been invalidated by
federal judges, three or four in southern California, have one
very famously involved in the Bridgeport librarians in Connecticut. None
(10:29):
of those invalidations were appealed to circuit courts because of facts,
were terrified they'd be affirmed. So all they try to
do now is avoid those particular federal judges.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
That's a disgrace, indeed it is. And let me just
suggest that you make a very valid point information overload,
there's no possible way anyone could ever real time monitor this.
Maybe that's what the big rush for artificial intelligence is,
because maybe AI could process this filter through language and
shoot up red flags for communications that contain sort of
(11:01):
warning sign language in it.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Probably probably so, George Orwell was right. He was just
off by a couple of years.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
No question about it. Well as we always do. Let's
end the segment on judging freedom your podcasts, and I
encourage my listeners to find it online. And who are
you going to be speaking with today, sir?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
I have Aaron Mate today, Pepe Escobar, Phil Geraldy and
tomorrow the great You should have been seated where Pete
Hegseth was yesterday. But life doesn't always work out for
the best. Colonel Douglas McGregor.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
All right, great line up, your honor, and always a
great conversation with you. I appreciate your thoughtful analysis and
your ongoing support of the Fourth Amendment, in spite of
the fact that no one in power seems to Carol
Witt about it until next Wednesday, my friend, best of health.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Thank you, Brian. Right back at you.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
My pleasure, sir. It's eight forty right now. I fifty
five KRC
Speaker 3 (11:54):
The talk station, fifty five KARC
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