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Speaker 1 (00:05):
It's six or six here fifty five kersee detalk station.
I'm very happy Friday to everyone. Tech Friday, Dave Hatter
are coming up? What caused that Verizon adage? He says,
also in his opinion piece the benefits of Kentucky Consumer
Data Protection Act and finally the worst products at the
Consumer Electronics Show. That should be fun Dave hat or
bottom of this hour right now, a regular feature here
lately on the fifty five cares of the Morning Show,
(00:27):
all the what I will call Shenanigan's coming out of
the orders and actions related to the mayor, the city manager.
Back in the background, Iris Rolie, and of course our
administratively police chief Threesy Thigi, who's implicated in this one.
Welcome back FOP President Ken Kobert. It's great to have
you on.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Ken.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Good morning, Brian. Thanks for having me again.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I understand Joe suggested perhaps you should become a weekly
feature or even a daily feature on the Morning Show
with all of your press releases, and that's the genesis
of Joe inviting you on the program. In my you know,
happiness about having you on the program. You releast some
to the press about what's going on over like, what
in the hell how did this happen? Of course, that's
the case with the firing of Danda Pettis. She was
(01:15):
a police captain. That is a it's ab almost as
high as rank as you can get, right, it's a captain.
Then what assistant chief.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah, assistant chief and then the chief, and the captain's
really the highest rank. Yeah, that you can attain through
taking promotional exams. Once you get to assistant chief.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Their appointments then that becomes political, but we'll ignore that
for the moment. So we're talking about someone a very
high status in the police department. She is the or
was and soon will be again the highest ranking black
female fifty five years old, work for the Cincini Police
Department for more than twenty five years. But then Police
Chief three Sohigia, according to the reporting on this, in
December of twenty four, fired her for alleged dishonesty and
(01:59):
subordination rule violations like time and overtime issues. She appealed
that and went to arbitration, and the arbitration panel said,
uh uh, they've ordered full reinstatement of her as since
a police captain with back pay, rejecting the administrations what
they call unfounded efforts or what you kind of called
unfounded efforts to terminate her.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
What happened? Why was she targeted?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
And I guess I have to ask you out loud,
do you think this was police chief three so that
Thiji's decision to fire her or maybe she got influenced
by someone else in the hierarchy?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Ken Kobert, Well, there's a lot of things they don't know.
The why is the biggest thing. We don't know why
why this was done.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
They ultimately, after this interview and they came up with
these charges, they decided that the fire chief would be
the department level hearing officer. Why again, they say, well,
it's because we wanted to be independent.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
The fire officer.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah, the fire chief did a did the the department
level hearing, which the department level hearing is basically like
a predisciplinary hearing. They hear from both sides as to
what they believe the fact pattern is and then they
make a decision. Well, the fire chief after all this,
and like I said, a lot of these questions go
unanswered as he issues an eighty eight hour suspension. It
(03:23):
then went to Chief Thiji, who determined No, I don't
like this, I want her terminated. So then it goes
to Cheryl Long, who's the city manager who is responsible
for the hiring and firing of every city employee, upholds
Chief Thiji's decision and they terminate her. Of course, now
thirteen months later, you know, after going to arbitration over
(03:44):
the summer, this three arbiter panel came back with a
decision of she.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Didn't do any of this.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
All of the charges that they had, they said, absolutely not,
all of this was unfounded. In fact, you're going to
reinstate her with full back pay, full benefit immediately.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
And I suppose giving a collective bargaining agreement, And I
don't know what's in it. Is that her sole remedy.
I mean, it's a good one that she got her
job back on all the back pace she's been out
for that long. But is there any opportunity like so
many others, for example, the fired police chief Washington or
the fire chief Washington's gonna end up getting a big
fat settlement checked because they wrongfully terminated him. It's been determined.
Is she because she's now still an employee or reemployed
(04:26):
by the sin Sty Police department. Can she pursue like
civil actions for this damage to a reputation and that
kind of thing, or is that is that covered by
the arbitration.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
I don't know's that's something I know she has private counsel.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah, okay, I don't know if that's.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Something they're exploiting or not. But I could tell you
from the labor perspective. You know, we filed for arbitration.
We filed aggrievance based off of just cause, which means
there was no just cause to fire her, which this
arbitration panel said absolutely, there was no just cause. But
there's another interesting part of this, and we have child
that her right to do process was violated, and part
(05:04):
of that was, you know, in our collective bargaining agreement,
it says that everyone that is uh, you know, subject
to any kind of disciplinary action will be treated fairly
and I'm trying to remember exact words, but you'll be
treated all with dignity and respect.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
And based off of.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Their findings, the arbitrator panel said she was not treated
with dignity in respect. Hmmm, So they sustained that charge
as well. So we had two charges they sustained both
of them, which is what led to ultimately for reinstatement.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Well, I can only rely on Jennifer Edwards Baker from
Fox nineteen to reporting on this. But apparently her termination,
least according to her lawyer, was a retaliation because she
had filed a complaint with the Ohio Civil Rights Commission
alleging unlawful discrimination retaliation against her by the city. So
she does that before she gets fired. That that sounds
like at least a logical predicate for them wanting to
(06:03):
fire her. Do you know what she said to the
House Civil Rights Commission Ken Cover?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I don't because those are all things. When we look
at what the FFP does is we don't get involved
in cops filing complaints against other cops because ultimately we
may end up defending them. Good point, So our responsibility
is what happened here. She was terminated, She came to
the FFP said I don't think this is right. She
laid out why. Our grievance committee said, yeah, we should
(06:31):
fight this. So we filed for arbitration and this is
where ultimately we landed. But as far as the cops
file complaints against each other mid administration, we don't get.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Involved with that, Okay, I can understand your need to
remain neutral on matters involving police against police because you
do represent all of the police, and of course you know,
this case is a great illustration of the benefits of
membership in the Fraternal Order of Police. I mean, you're
providing all this valuable service when when the police officers
I will say loosely rights have been violated.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah, without a doubt.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I mean Kim Ratowski, who you know is a partner
with Lazarus's law firm that we have. I mean, she
spent hundreds of hours preparing for this, you know, going
to this arbitration, writing briefs. I mean, it just does.
She does a phenomenal job. She really needs to be recognized,
you know, for the work that she did to defend
these cops. And she's done it, you know, with this
(07:23):
law firm for over twenty years, and she's certainly an
invaluable piece to the FOP.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
That's wonderful, And you just gave a shout out to her.
Now double down on that for her great work on this. Now,
I guess I'm kind of curious since Police Chief Fiji
determined that Denita Pettis should be fired rather than put
on at min Lee for eighty eight hours or whatever
was recommended initially. Did she testify at the hearing at
(07:49):
the arbitration, Yeah, she did. Did she I mean shed
any light on this specifically? No, No, this is exactly
what happened, why I terminated or rejected this suspension part
of it, I mean, any flesh on the bones of
that boiled down Stavid.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Not really. I mean she testified, she gave what she
believed was her fact matter. I mean there were probably
I don't know twenty people or so that testified. I
mean this was.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Hours upon hours. I mean it was nearly.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Roughly thirty hours of testimony roughly throughout everybody, and it
just came down to the arbitrators didn't believe that any
of this warranted discipline. Not only did they not only
did they believe that it didn't warrant it any discipline,
they also obviously didn't believe that it warranted her termination.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Right, Well, if there's no underlying disciplinary problem, they didn't
believe there were any ethn clearly there was nothing to
justify the termination. That's just crazy. Did okay, Since the
chain of command goes all the way up apparently to
the final decision maker. Cheryl Long, the city manager that
should share a long testify at this hearing.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
No, she did not.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Well, she's like three times removed from any of the
information relating to Danita Pettis on the job work anyway.
I mean, she doesn't know what's going on with this
woman on a day to day basis.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
No.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
And that's the thing is you're the city manager said,
they're ultimately responsible for for who's fired in this city.
But certainly it calls into question and I get it way,
we have six thousand employees. I don't know whether or
not how well this is reviewed. I mean, that would
be certainly questions for her. But it certainly is very
(09:36):
concerning when you have a fire chief that's been fired,
you know, to have you know, Captain Pettis fired, we
have an assistant fire chief fire we have a situation
that Chief Fiji's in right now. That is certainly concerning
that there's a pattern being created that certainly questions as
to whether or not any of these people should be
in the predicament that they're in.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Well that and then you add on a sort of side,
is you all the checks that the city's writing for
to various employees. We know about Chief Washington, we anticipate
Chief THEG getting one, but we also have you know,
the money paid to the protesters, and we've got money
being paid to well, perhaps being paid for wrongful death
(10:16):
actions involving justified police shootings. I mean, this is this
is just I want to say a Charlie Fox trot,
if I can be so bold, I just I can't
see anything good going on with this administration relative to
police operations and how they handle matters involving litigation.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah, this is something that this is snowballing out of
control quickly, as we've seen over here just in the
first couple of weeks of the year. The problems that
we were were seeing.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
All right, Well, one of the other ongoing problems moving
away from Police Chief DJs involvement in this wrongful termination
to her also being subject to that kind of approach.
She was let go and fired without any burden in
place on administer to leave without any articulated reason. We
still don't to this day, and they've extended the investigation
to Police CHIEFDG. The investigation can and confirm for me
(11:07):
if I'm wrong or right. Investigation is to decide whether
there is any grounds to either place or an administratively
or fire herb because they didn't say there were. This
is like looking backward in an effort to support something
that they've done already.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yeah, I mean, this is certainly one of the questions
that comes is, you know, wasn't arrest made and then
the charges have been Are they trying to determine the charges?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yes, that's exactly what it sounds like.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
It's just I mean, the this has been the common
theme is the lack of transparency, not knowing why why
why do we have Chief DG on administrative leaf. No
one seemed to be able to answer that, And I
guess we're gonna have to wait till the end of
February now, Yeah, to see what's going to happen next.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yeah, we're paying a law firm substantial amount of money
to look into what police Chief three FIGI either did
or didn't do. We'll get a report on that and
then they'll be able to retroactively whether they were appropriate
in letting her go.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
This is crazy. That's where we have you FLP President
ken Kober.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Keep issuing the announcements, keep making public statements. You know,
I just learned this morning that the fire department actually
has someone in your capacity. There is a union fire representative,
you know, president, and just Riker said, just missing an action.
I didn't even mean we had one. Apparently, anybody who
reaches out to that guy asked for a comment or
anything that's like got crickets in response. So we're lucky
to have you, Ken, Kobe are actually speaking out loud
(12:27):
on behalf of the folks. You represent the Cincinnati Police Department.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
You know, it's it's a job that I certainly take seriously.
I think it's a very very important one of these
men and women that call out every day to protect
the citizens of the city deserve to have somebody that's
going to be vocal, that's going to fight from And
it's something like I said, that I certainly take seriously,
and I certainly enjoy being in this role.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
I know you do, and I'm certain that the police
department and the members of the Sinsint Police Department appreciate
what you're doing and your activism on their behalf. And
you're always welcome here in the morning. Ken, I don't
know if you're a regular feature. Part of me wants
to say no, because things will settle down and things
will approve and you'll have nothing to report to the
public about. But until that time, Ken, thanks again, have
(13:11):
a fantastic weekend and go on behalf of all of
my listeners and me and my family. God bless the
men and women in law enforcement.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Thanks Brian, I appreciate it. Take care of a good weekend,
and I'm sure I'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yes, you probably will. Take care of man
It's six or six here fifty five kersee detalk station.
I'm very happy Friday to everyone. Tech Friday, Dave Hatter
are coming up? What caused that Verizon adage? He says,
also in his opinion piece the benefits of Kentucky Consumer
Data Protection Act and finally the worst products at the
Consumer Electronics Show. That should be fun Dave hat or
bottom of this hour right now, a regular feature here
lately on the fifty five cares of the Morning Show,
(00:27):
all the what I will call Shenanigan's coming out of
the orders and actions related to the mayor, the city manager.
Back in the background, Iris Rolie, and of course our
administratively police chief Threesy Thigi, who's implicated in this one.
Welcome back FOP President Ken Kobert. It's great to have
you on.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Ken.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Good morning, Brian. Thanks for having me again.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I understand Joe suggested perhaps you should become a weekly
feature or even a daily feature on the Morning Show
with all of your press releases, and that's the genesis
of Joe inviting you on the program. In my you know,
happiness about having you on the program. You releast some
to the press about what's going on over like, what
in the hell how did this happen? Of course, that's
the case with the firing of Danda Pettis. She was
(01:15):
a police captain. That is a it's ab almost as
high as rank as you can get, right, it's a captain.
Then what assistant chief.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah, assistant chief and then the chief, and the captain's
really the highest rank. Yeah, that you can attain through
taking promotional exams. Once you get to assistant chief.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Their appointments then that becomes political, but we'll ignore that
for the moment. So we're talking about someone a very
high status in the police department. She is the or
was and soon will be again the highest ranking black
female fifty five years old, work for the Cincini Police
Department for more than twenty five years. But then Police
Chief three Sohigia, according to the reporting on this, in
December of twenty four, fired her for alleged dishonesty and
(01:59):
subordination rule violations like time and overtime issues. She appealed
that and went to arbitration, and the arbitration panel said,
uh uh, they've ordered full reinstatement of her as since
a police captain with back pay, rejecting the administrations what
they call unfounded efforts or what you kind of called
unfounded efforts to terminate her.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
What happened? Why was she targeted?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
And I guess I have to ask you out loud,
do you think this was police chief three so that
Thiji's decision to fire her or maybe she got influenced
by someone else in the hierarchy?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Ken Kobert, Well, there's a lot of things they don't know.
The why is the biggest thing. We don't know why
why this was done.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
They ultimately, after this interview and they came up with
these charges, they decided that the fire chief would be
the department level hearing officer. Why again, they say, well,
it's because we wanted to be independent.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
The fire officer.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah, the fire chief did a did the the department
level hearing, which the department level hearing is basically like
a predisciplinary hearing. They hear from both sides as to
what they believe the fact pattern is and then they
make a decision. Well, the fire chief after all this,
and like I said, a lot of these questions go
unanswered as he issues an eighty eight hour suspension. It
(03:23):
then went to Chief Thiji, who determined No, I don't
like this, I want her terminated. So then it goes
to Cheryl Long, who's the city manager who is responsible
for the hiring and firing of every city employee, upholds
Chief Thiji's decision and they terminate her. Of course, now
thirteen months later, you know, after going to arbitration over
(03:44):
the summer, this three arbiter panel came back with a
decision of she.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Didn't do any of this.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
All of the charges that they had, they said, absolutely not,
all of this was unfounded. In fact, you're going to
reinstate her with full back pay, full benefit immediately.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
And I suppose giving a collective bargaining agreement, And I
don't know what's in it. Is that her sole remedy.
I mean, it's a good one that she got her
job back on all the back pace she's been out
for that long. But is there any opportunity like so
many others, for example, the fired police chief Washington or
the fire chief Washington's gonna end up getting a big
fat settlement checked because they wrongfully terminated him. It's been determined.
Is she because she's now still an employee or reemployed
(04:26):
by the sin Sty Police department. Can she pursue like
civil actions for this damage to a reputation and that
kind of thing, or is that is that covered by
the arbitration.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
I don't know's that's something I know she has private counsel.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah, okay, I don't know if that's.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Something they're exploiting or not. But I could tell you
from the labor perspective. You know, we filed for arbitration.
We filed aggrievance based off of just cause, which means
there was no just cause to fire her, which this
arbitration panel said absolutely, there was no just cause. But
there's another interesting part of this, and we have child
that her right to do process was violated, and part
(05:04):
of that was, you know, in our collective bargaining agreement,
it says that everyone that is uh, you know, subject
to any kind of disciplinary action will be treated fairly
and I'm trying to remember exact words, but you'll be
treated all with dignity and respect.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
And based off of.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Their findings, the arbitrator panel said she was not treated
with dignity in respect. Hmmm, So they sustained that charge
as well. So we had two charges they sustained both
of them, which is what led to ultimately for reinstatement.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Well, I can only rely on Jennifer Edwards Baker from
Fox nineteen to reporting on this. But apparently her termination,
least according to her lawyer, was a retaliation because she
had filed a complaint with the Ohio Civil Rights Commission
alleging unlawful discrimination retaliation against her by the city. So
she does that before she gets fired. That that sounds
like at least a logical predicate for them wanting to
(06:03):
fire her. Do you know what she said to the
House Civil Rights Commission Ken Cover?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I don't because those are all things. When we look
at what the FFP does is we don't get involved
in cops filing complaints against other cops because ultimately we
may end up defending them. Good point, So our responsibility
is what happened here. She was terminated, She came to
the FFP said I don't think this is right. She
laid out why. Our grievance committee said, yeah, we should
(06:31):
fight this. So we filed for arbitration and this is
where ultimately we landed. But as far as the cops
file complaints against each other mid administration, we don't get.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Involved with that, Okay, I can understand your need to
remain neutral on matters involving police against police because you
do represent all of the police, and of course you know,
this case is a great illustration of the benefits of
membership in the Fraternal Order of Police. I mean, you're
providing all this valuable service when when the police officers
I will say loosely rights have been violated.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah, without a doubt.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I mean Kim Ratowski, who you know is a partner
with Lazarus's law firm that we have. I mean, she
spent hundreds of hours preparing for this, you know, going
to this arbitration, writing briefs. I mean, it just does.
She does a phenomenal job. She really needs to be recognized,
you know, for the work that she did to defend
these cops. And she's done it, you know, with this
(07:23):
law firm for over twenty years, and she's certainly an
invaluable piece to the FOP.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
That's wonderful, And you just gave a shout out to her.
Now double down on that for her great work on this. Now,
I guess I'm kind of curious since Police Chief Fiji
determined that Denita Pettis should be fired rather than put
on at min Lee for eighty eight hours or whatever
was recommended initially. Did she testify at the hearing at
(07:49):
the arbitration, Yeah, she did. Did she I mean shed
any light on this specifically? No, No, this is exactly
what happened, why I terminated or rejected this suspension part
of it, I mean, any flesh on the bones of
that boiled down Stavid.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Not really. I mean she testified, she gave what she
believed was her fact matter. I mean there were probably
I don't know twenty people or so that testified. I
mean this was.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Hours upon hours. I mean it was nearly.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Roughly thirty hours of testimony roughly throughout everybody, and it
just came down to the arbitrators didn't believe that any
of this warranted discipline. Not only did they not only
did they believe that it didn't warrant it any discipline,
they also obviously didn't believe that it warranted her termination.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Right, Well, if there's no underlying disciplinary problem, they didn't
believe there were any ethn clearly there was nothing to
justify the termination. That's just crazy. Did okay, Since the
chain of command goes all the way up apparently to
the final decision maker. Cheryl Long, the city manager that
should share a long testify at this hearing.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
No, she did not.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Well, she's like three times removed from any of the
information relating to Danita Pettis on the job work anyway.
I mean, she doesn't know what's going on with this
woman on a day to day basis.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
No.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
And that's the thing is you're the city manager said,
they're ultimately responsible for for who's fired in this city.
But certainly it calls into question and I get it way,
we have six thousand employees. I don't know whether or
not how well this is reviewed. I mean, that would
be certainly questions for her. But it certainly is very
(09:36):
concerning when you have a fire chief that's been fired,
you know, to have you know, Captain Pettis fired, we
have an assistant fire chief fire we have a situation
that Chief Fiji's in right now. That is certainly concerning
that there's a pattern being created that certainly questions as
to whether or not any of these people should be
in the predicament that they're in.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Well that and then you add on a sort of side,
is you all the checks that the city's writing for
to various employees. We know about Chief Washington, we anticipate
Chief THEG getting one, but we also have you know,
the money paid to the protesters, and we've got money
being paid to well, perhaps being paid for wrongful death
(10:16):
actions involving justified police shootings. I mean, this is this
is just I want to say a Charlie Fox trot,
if I can be so bold, I just I can't
see anything good going on with this administration relative to
police operations and how they handle matters involving litigation.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah, this is something that this is snowballing out of
control quickly, as we've seen over here just in the
first couple of weeks of the year. The problems that
we were were seeing.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
All right, Well, one of the other ongoing problems moving
away from Police Chief DJs involvement in this wrongful termination
to her also being subject to that kind of approach.
She was let go and fired without any burden in
place on administer to leave without any articulated reason. We
still don't to this day, and they've extended the investigation
to Police CHIEFDG. The investigation can and confirm for me
(11:07):
if I'm wrong or right. Investigation is to decide whether
there is any grounds to either place or an administratively
or fire herb because they didn't say there were. This
is like looking backward in an effort to support something
that they've done already.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yeah, I mean, this is certainly one of the questions
that comes is, you know, wasn't arrest made and then
the charges have been Are they trying to determine the charges?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yes, that's exactly what it sounds like.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
It's just I mean, the this has been the common
theme is the lack of transparency, not knowing why why
why do we have Chief DG on administrative leaf. No
one seemed to be able to answer that, And I
guess we're gonna have to wait till the end of
February now, Yeah, to see what's going to happen next.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yeah, we're paying a law firm substantial amount of money
to look into what police Chief three FIGI either did
or didn't do. We'll get a report on that and
then they'll be able to retroactively whether they were appropriate
in letting her go.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
This is crazy. That's where we have you FLP President
ken Kober.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Keep issuing the announcements, keep making public statements. You know,
I just learned this morning that the fire department actually
has someone in your capacity. There is a union fire representative,
you know, president, and just Riker said, just missing an action.
I didn't even mean we had one. Apparently, anybody who
reaches out to that guy asked for a comment or
anything that's like got crickets in response. So we're lucky
to have you, Ken, Kobe are actually speaking out loud
(12:27):
on behalf of the folks. You represent the Cincinnati Police Department.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
You know, it's it's a job that I certainly take seriously.
I think it's a very very important one of these
men and women that call out every day to protect
the citizens of the city deserve to have somebody that's
going to be vocal, that's going to fight from And
it's something like I said, that I certainly take seriously,
and I certainly enjoy being in this role.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
I know you do, and I'm certain that the police
department and the members of the Sinsint Police Department appreciate
what you're doing and your activism on their behalf. And
you're always welcome here in the morning. Ken, I don't
know if you're a regular feature. Part of me wants
to say no, because things will settle down and things
will approve and you'll have nothing to report to the
public about. But until that time, Ken, thanks again, have
(13:11):
a fantastic weekend and go on behalf of all of
my listeners and me and my family. God bless the
men and women in law enforcement.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Thanks Brian, I appreciate it. Take care of a good weekend,
and I'm sure I'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yes, you probably will. Take care of man
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