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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Starting the mailroom. You'll be successful. That's what Christopher Smithman
suggested earlier, and I have an illustration of that right
here on the fifty five Cassey Morning Show. Author Michael Minard.
Labeled a non college bound man, he was put in
trade school program. At the age of twenty one, he
joined Johnson and Johnson operated the blueprint machine. There you go.
Twenty five years later, he was named the company's first
vice president of engineering and an officer of the company
(00:21):
with responsibilities in forty four countries. Now labeled as an
exemplary creator, he has received fourteen US and multiple international patents,
including inventions of infant disposable diapers with elastic legs and
sanitary napkins with wings for women. I remember those anyway.
He's the author of a book we're gonna be talking today.
He's not a doctor, but how did he discover the
(00:44):
secret to what is causing all of our collective problems?
Described as the third leading cause of death, childhood trauma
the name of the book, Greater than Gravity, How childhood
trauma is pulling down humanity. Welcome to the fifty five
Carsy Morning Show, Michael Minard. It's a real pleasure to
have you on.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Me to be here good morning.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
So you're not a doctor, and yet this sounds like
medical research looking to find the root cause of you know,
addiction or what kills us, what causes diabetes? Are we
getting the wrong information? It sounds like we are Michael.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Well, we have for eternity and it's just an unlikely journey.
I'm a I'm an engineer by education, but I'm also
I have a mind that solves problems. We all have
different gifts, and I connect dots that have never been
connected before. And when I decided to write my memoir
(01:42):
about three years ago, that's the kite that couldn't fly.
And in that I discovered that I and my siblings
have we're actually experiencing complex childhood trauma and explained a
lot of the dysfunction in my siblings. And that stopped me,
started me down the journey of recon I lost two
(02:02):
brothers to addiction to heroin. Why them and not me?
So that led me on a two year journey that
I'm publishing and actually that book is going to be
released in about a month. Greater than Gravity and found
some shocking data.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Okay, Now, one of the things I've learned from over
the years I've talked to so many folks involved in
psychiatry and psychology. Quite often addiction springs from an underlying
mental health problem. People are self medicating if they're dealing
with generalized anxiety. They feel tense and nervous all the time.
You know what, drink something, you know, it makes you
mellow out, makes you feel good, and that's what you
(02:41):
head straight down the road of addiction. What level trauma
are you referring to? Is this abusive parents? Is it
students that you go to school with. There's all kinds
of trauma.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Out there, great question. There's ten types of classic childhood
trauma that have been identifi of the CDC, and they
include the ugly facts of neglect, abuse, sexual abuse, a
parent having addiction themselves, someone being incarcerated in the home,
(03:15):
someone having mental illness in the home. Those ten things
are called aces. Adverse childhood experiences. One hundred and eighty
million adults, that's seventy percent of our adult population have
experienced childhood trauma. If you have experienced four or more,
which is thirty percent of the nation and the world,
(03:38):
everything goes to hell. Everything goes to hell, and it
starts at childhood with the excess flows of hormones like
cortisol an adrenaline. Because the child stays in the alert,
always on the alert, their brain gets wired for survival,
not for growth. Mitochondria is destroyed in the brain, which
(04:00):
begins the downward spiral. So you lose energy in the brain.
You get mild mental disorders or disease, and those are
pathways to metabolic disease and makes you feel bad. And
when you feel bad, we seek to feel better. And
how do we do that? As children? We begin with
(04:21):
addictions as you as early as eight or nine years old,
with food, yeah, and then we find a drink, might
call them your mind. So eighty five percent of all
people in the United States suffering from childhood trauma, sorry,
suffering from addiction have childhood trauma.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Okay, now what of other disease states. I just use
myself as an example. I got lymphauma and I've been
complaining this morning because I had to have a chemo
on Thursday and Friday, and it really is influencing my
brain today, sir. So if I sound a little groggy,
I literally am. Okay. I'm sixty. I was diagnosed eight
years ago, I got five years of remission. First three minute,
(05:00):
Is there something could you trace that to a traumatic
event in my childhood?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Absolutely? So, you know, and I don't want to make
I don't want to make it sound like the sky
is falling. No, no, no, no, and we're trying to dig
up bones and blame people. But the reality is that
if you have experienced childhood trauma, even things that you
wouldn't think was trauma, an unhappy mother at birth, a
(05:28):
slight neglect or being demeaned or being touched on these
ten things, if you have it, it begins to destroy
the immune system. So we're built to filter out cancer cells.
We all have them, but our immune system filters them out.
If you've experienced childhood trauma, that system is weakened. And
(05:50):
there is a there is a new book by doctor Gibore,
world expert on trauma, who now shows a direct prevalence
of cancer to your early childhood at adversity. So you know,
I don't know your history, not asking your history, but.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
No, I was looking. I was looking for a psychoanalyst.
But you're saying, yes, very well, it could have been
some traumatic event of my childhood that has brought me
to the state.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
So absolutely, how did you.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Make that connection? Again, going back to the fact that
you're a researcher, a numbers cruncher, not a physician, how'd
you make the leap?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah? So, after the memoir, a world renowned psychologist, doctor Schiraldi,
reached out to me and said, you're really onto something here,
like to work with you. So with him and I
consumed three hundred and fifty peer review reports on making
(06:52):
the connection between causing diseases mental and metabolic diseases and
found some gold in that research, and then research deeper,
and I created a team of experts to validate my data.
So it's always there. But the professionals talk to themselves.
(07:14):
They don't talk to us. Right now, I'm still shocked
as this data has been available for thirty years and
you have to have a novice, a layman make this
connection because of my childhood and of all the research,
but no one. I'm trying to hit the alarm button
(07:36):
with this book.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I understand now the sixty four thousand dollars question, or
whatever it's worth these days, what do we do to
solve the problem, Like, for example, if it was childhood trauma,
that resulted in me having whatever disease state or not.
Is it too late to sort of fix that or
do we need to start really really young and focusing
on and talking about the traumas that we face as
(07:58):
young people. I mean, you got an alcoholic father or mother,
how are you going to reach that young person to
stop the trauma from happening.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
So the end, the end of the book lays out
the solution. So if you if you're going to talk
about a problem, you have a responsibility to talk about
the solution. And I got to tell you, you're the
first guy and all these interviews I'm doing, the first
guy who has asked, Okay, what do we do? So
so here's here's what we're doing. I've created an organization
called you act U act United against Childhood Trauma. We're
(08:30):
going to do three things and a very at a
very high scale. We're going to raise awareness so people
like you might make the connection between your health, your
mental state, and your past. Awareness is number one. Number
two healing interventions. Now, obviously we can't take your cancer away,
we can't take you, but we can improve your ability
(08:54):
to heal by doing things that's so simple. Of appropriate, rest,
appropriate nutrition and a little bit of movement. But if
you're really suffering, if you're really suffering, then you need
professional help. And there are interventions that are quite efficacious,
they're quite easy to implement. So first awareness, Second, let's
(09:19):
drive healing, and third, let's go upstream and prevent it
from happening. Let's teach the parents, let's teach the world.
You know, in a country like Denmark, they have almost
zero childhood trauma because they give their mothers eighteen months
off at birth. They have women, they have teams delivering diapers, food, consoling, love.
(09:44):
You know, they have this theory of raise your children,
you know, like a Viking, and it works. But we're
of the forty two richest countries in the world, we
are the lowest in preventing childhood trauma and bringing these So.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah, we have a lot of i would say, single
parent families, a lot of pant families with two earner
parents and they're not around all the time, latch key kids.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
And we could go on, well meaning, well meaning, well
meaning parents.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Of course, greater than gravity, how childhood trauma is pulling
down humanity. By my guest today, Michael Manard, fascinating conversation, Sir,
I hope you're onto something. I hope we can discover
the source of all this, this tragedy that's out there
and got a solution that's in the book. Your book
is on my blog page fifty five cares dot com stir,
but we can click on it, get themselves a copy
of it and learn about it. Michael, it's been a
(10:34):
real pleasure.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Man, Thank you for having me on. Good luck to you.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Thank you very much, sir, I appreciate it. Eight forty
right now, don't go away. Eric Conroy he's runing against
Greg Landsman. Somebody's got to do it District one. He'll
be in studio next
Starting the mailroom. You'll be successful. That's what Christopher Smithman
suggested earlier, and I have an illustration of that right
here on the fifty five Cassey Morning Show. Author Michael Minard.
Labeled a non college bound man, he was put in
trade school program. At the age of twenty one, he
joined Johnson and Johnson operated the blueprint machine. There you go.
Twenty five years later, he was named the company's first
vice president of engineering and an officer of the company
(00:21):
with responsibilities in forty four countries. Now labeled as an
exemplary creator, he has received fourteen US and multiple international patents,
including inventions of infant disposable diapers with elastic legs and
sanitary napkins with wings for women. I remember those anyway.
He's the author of a book we're gonna be talking today.
He's not a doctor, but how did he discover the
(00:44):
secret to what is causing all of our collective problems?
Described as the third leading cause of death, childhood trauma
the name of the book, Greater than Gravity, How childhood
trauma is pulling down humanity. Welcome to the fifty five
Carsy Morning Show, Michael Minard. It's a real pleasure to
have you on.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Me to be here good morning.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
So you're not a doctor, and yet this sounds like
medical research looking to find the root cause of you know,
addiction or what kills us, what causes diabetes? Are we
getting the wrong information? It sounds like we are Michael.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Well, we have for eternity and it's just an unlikely journey.
I'm a I'm an engineer by education, but I'm also
I have a mind that solves problems. We all have
different gifts, and I connect dots that have never been
connected before. And when I decided to write my memoir
(01:42):
about three years ago, that's the kite that couldn't fly.
And in that I discovered that I and my siblings
have we're actually experiencing complex childhood trauma and explained a
lot of the dysfunction in my siblings. And that stopped me,
started me down the journey of recon I lost two
(02:02):
brothers to addiction to heroin. Why them and not me?
So that led me on a two year journey that
I'm publishing and actually that book is going to be
released in about a month. Greater than Gravity and found
some shocking data.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Okay, Now, one of the things I've learned from over
the years I've talked to so many folks involved in
psychiatry and psychology. Quite often addiction springs from an underlying
mental health problem. People are self medicating if they're dealing
with generalized anxiety. They feel tense and nervous all the time.
You know what, drink something, you know, it makes you
mellow out, makes you feel good, and that's what you
(02:41):
head straight down the road of addiction. What level trauma
are you referring to? Is this abusive parents? Is it
students that you go to school with. There's all kinds
of trauma.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Out there, great question. There's ten types of classic childhood
trauma that have been identifi of the CDC, and they
include the ugly facts of neglect, abuse, sexual abuse, a
parent having addiction themselves, someone being incarcerated in the home,
(03:15):
someone having mental illness in the home. Those ten things
are called aces. Adverse childhood experiences. One hundred and eighty
million adults, that's seventy percent of our adult population have
experienced childhood trauma. If you have experienced four or more,
which is thirty percent of the nation and the world,
(03:38):
everything goes to hell. Everything goes to hell, and it
starts at childhood with the excess flows of hormones like
cortisol an adrenaline. Because the child stays in the alert,
always on the alert, their brain gets wired for survival,
not for growth. Mitochondria is destroyed in the brain, which
(04:00):
begins the downward spiral. So you lose energy in the brain.
You get mild mental disorders or disease, and those are
pathways to metabolic disease and makes you feel bad. And
when you feel bad, we seek to feel better. And
how do we do that? As children? We begin with
(04:21):
addictions as you as early as eight or nine years old,
with food, yeah, and then we find a drink, might
call them your mind. So eighty five percent of all
people in the United States suffering from childhood trauma, sorry,
suffering from addiction have childhood trauma.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Okay, now what of other disease states. I just use
myself as an example. I got lymphauma and I've been
complaining this morning because I had to have a chemo
on Thursday and Friday, and it really is influencing my
brain today, sir. So if I sound a little groggy,
I literally am. Okay. I'm sixty. I was diagnosed eight
years ago, I got five years of remission. First three minute,
(05:00):
Is there something could you trace that to a traumatic
event in my childhood?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Absolutely? So, you know, and I don't want to make
I don't want to make it sound like the sky
is falling. No, no, no, no, and we're trying to dig
up bones and blame people. But the reality is that
if you have experienced childhood trauma, even things that you
wouldn't think was trauma, an unhappy mother at birth, a
(05:28):
slight neglect or being demeaned or being touched on these
ten things, if you have it, it begins to destroy
the immune system. So we're built to filter out cancer cells.
We all have them, but our immune system filters them out.
If you've experienced childhood trauma, that system is weakened. And
(05:50):
there is a there is a new book by doctor Gibore,
world expert on trauma, who now shows a direct prevalence
of cancer to your early childhood at adversity. So you know,
I don't know your history, not asking your history, but.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
No, I was looking. I was looking for a psychoanalyst.
But you're saying, yes, very well, it could have been
some traumatic event of my childhood that has brought me
to the state.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
So absolutely, how did you.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Make that connection? Again, going back to the fact that
you're a researcher, a numbers cruncher, not a physician, how'd
you make the leap?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah? So, after the memoir, a world renowned psychologist, doctor Schiraldi,
reached out to me and said, you're really onto something here,
like to work with you. So with him and I
consumed three hundred and fifty peer review reports on making
(06:52):
the connection between causing diseases mental and metabolic diseases and
found some gold in that research, and then research deeper,
and I created a team of experts to validate my data.
So it's always there. But the professionals talk to themselves.
(07:14):
They don't talk to us. Right now, I'm still shocked
as this data has been available for thirty years and
you have to have a novice, a layman make this
connection because of my childhood and of all the research,
but no one. I'm trying to hit the alarm button
(07:36):
with this book.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I understand now the sixty four thousand dollars question, or
whatever it's worth these days, what do we do to
solve the problem, Like, for example, if it was childhood trauma,
that resulted in me having whatever disease state or not.
Is it too late to sort of fix that or
do we need to start really really young and focusing
on and talking about the traumas that we face as
(07:58):
young people. I mean, you got an alcoholic father or mother,
how are you going to reach that young person to
stop the trauma from happening.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
So the end, the end of the book lays out
the solution. So if you if you're going to talk
about a problem, you have a responsibility to talk about
the solution. And I got to tell you, you're the
first guy and all these interviews I'm doing, the first
guy who has asked, Okay, what do we do? So
so here's here's what we're doing. I've created an organization
called you act U act United against Childhood Trauma. We're
(08:30):
going to do three things and a very at a
very high scale. We're going to raise awareness so people
like you might make the connection between your health, your
mental state, and your past. Awareness is number one. Number
two healing interventions. Now, obviously we can't take your cancer away,
we can't take you, but we can improve your ability
(08:54):
to heal by doing things that's so simple. Of appropriate, rest,
appropriate nutrition and a little bit of movement. But if
you're really suffering, if you're really suffering, then you need
professional help. And there are interventions that are quite efficacious,
they're quite easy to implement. So first awareness, Second, let's
(09:19):
drive healing, and third, let's go upstream and prevent it
from happening. Let's teach the parents, let's teach the world.
You know, in a country like Denmark, they have almost
zero childhood trauma because they give their mothers eighteen months
off at birth. They have women, they have teams delivering diapers, food, consoling, love.
(09:44):
You know, they have this theory of raise your children,
you know, like a Viking, and it works. But we're
of the forty two richest countries in the world, we
are the lowest in preventing childhood trauma and bringing these So.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah, we have a lot of i would say, single
parent families, a lot of pant families with two earner
parents and they're not around all the time, latch key kids.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
And we could go on, well meaning, well meaning, well
meaning parents.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Of course, greater than gravity, how childhood trauma is pulling
down humanity. By my guest today, Michael Manard, fascinating conversation, Sir,
I hope you're onto something. I hope we can discover
the source of all this, this tragedy that's out there
and got a solution that's in the book. Your book
is on my blog page fifty five cares dot com stir,
but we can click on it, get themselves a copy
of it and learn about it. Michael, it's been a
(10:34):
real pleasure.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Man, Thank you for having me on. Good luck to you.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Thank you very much, sir, I appreciate it. Eight forty
right now, don't go away. Eric Conroy he's runing against
Greg Landsman. Somebody's got to do it District one. He'll
be in studio next
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