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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
All right, seven to twenty Ken Cober, you just heard him,
Cincinnati FOP president, on the city's eight point one million
dollars settlement with protesters of twenty twenty and new police guidelines.
And I asked can Kober where he laid the blame
for all of this, and he said, the law Department

(00:48):
of the City of Cincinnati. A guy was a vice
vice mayor at the time during the John Cranley administration
and had a lot to do with lawn. Public safety
is with us on the phone to respond to that
and to talk about the city settlement and why it
is hurtful going forward for the citizens of Cincinnati, if

(01:14):
he believes it is. Chris Smitherman, good morning, How are you,
my friend?

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Good morning, my friend, how are you doing.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
I'm good it's good to talk. It's been quite a while.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
It has been as nice to hear your voice, and
I've been listening to your show. You know, I want
to start off with just say Merry Christmas to you.
Thank you, And you know, I get a lot of
I get a lot of happy Holidays, and I never
thought I would live to see that even saying Merry
Christmas was controversial at any level.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Listen, uh, I will, I will. I want to stop
you right there, Chris, because and you're right, I say
Merry Christmas all the time, but if you say happy holidays,
Christmas is a holy day and that's where the word
holidays comes from. So what I say if somebody tells
me happy Holidays and instead of Merry Christmas, I say back,

(02:06):
happy Holy Days because it is a holy day.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
So that's the way. That's the way I get around that.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
You know, Well, that's okay, you know that, and that's
that's awesome. I just you know, from my point to you,
I think wishing you a merry Christmas, and wishing anybody
that I'm talking to a merry Christmas, no matter where
they are, whether they're they're agnostic or atheist or even
another religion because this is my faith and I'm pronouncing that.

(02:37):
You know, people will say people will say Happy Hanukah
to me, you know, and I'm not Jewish. So the
reality is I don't have a problem wishing anybody a
merry Christmas and I and I just know that this
this was one of those small undermining steps because I've
been listening to your show and I really appreciated the

(02:58):
caller who called it and said, hey, the way to
heaven is just accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior. Period.
I agree. But it's these small steps that are happening
in our country, like no prayer in the school, you know,
taking God out of the anthem, you know, things like
Merry Christmas. And this is bad to say because these

(03:20):
are things that are being taught to our children. That's
saying Merry Christmas is not being respectful. It's not the
politically correct thing to do. So all I'm pushing back on,
you know, at my tender age is just to say
Merry Christmas to you, and Merry Christmas to anybody who
is listening. And I am very fine with anybody saying

(03:41):
Merry Christmas to me.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Oh absolutely, me too. Praise the Lord, Merry Christmas. And
I'll tell you what. If God is an underdog in
this society, my money's on God.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
I'll tell you that right now.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
So don't act like don't act like God's not going
to win, because he always will in this.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Battle too, as he always wins. And that's why it's
so important for believers to speak up and say Mary Christmas,
because when we get to those pearly gates, whatever they
look like. I want to be one of those people
that said I made sure that I praised you, that

(04:28):
I didn't water down your birthday. And I was able
to look somebody in the eye who was a non believer,
someone who was a believer, somebody who was in a
different religion, whatever it was, and I was able to say,
and I would say Easter and Christmas. There are arguments
of which one is most important, him rising from the

(04:48):
dead on the third day or his birthday. But at
the end of the day, I wanted to start our program,
and this spleens it by making it very clear, Merry Christmas,
Gary Ja and I don't even have to say Happy
New Year, but Merry Christmas.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
No, Merry Christmas is enough. Oh Come Emmanuel, which means
God with us. And that's the point.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Hey Christmas, christ We're going to take a break and
come back and we'll we'll get into some real spleen
vent materials. Man, a Monday spleen vent is in order.
Seven to twenty eight. Well, Chris, I love to say this.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
The floor is yours. Well is the be in your
heart this morning?

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Thank you, Thank you. Brother. Let me say that the
a point one million dollar settlement. I think it's important
for the president of the FOP, for the police department,
and you're listening audience to focus in on the word settlement,
meaning the city didn't have to settle, Gary, Jeff, we
could have gone the trial. If I were the mayor,

(05:54):
I would have gone the trial and allowed a jury
of the city's peers to determine whether those who had
broken windows, thrown urn on police officers, those who broke
the law, someone who shot a police officer in the head,
who had a ballistic helmean on, who would be dead
if they did not have a ballistic helmet on that
I would have taken this to trial. And so this

(06:17):
was a mayor who doesn't have a spleen. This guy
did not stand up because he's playing politics with all
of us. He's looking to his next election. He didn't
want to send the message to those who were protesting
as a part of his base. I'm going to take
you to trial, put you on the stand, and ask

(06:38):
you what you did. So remember this is called a settlement.
The mayor, nor the manager, nor the city solicitor had
to settle anything. You are very correct that the mayor
hit the football like Charlie Brown, he was hiding the
dog on football from us during this election. They knew

(06:59):
that they had already come to the determination of a
settlement and not going to trial to focus on that.
It doesn't matter. They should have allowed a jury of
their peers, a jury of the city's peers in southwest Ohio,
to determine whether the riots that were happening in downtown
were legal or not. But what we do is we've

(07:20):
got all these conversations, so we don't want to do
proactive policing. We're not talking about peaceful protesters. We're talking
about people who did things that caused our officers to
arrest them, and they absolutely are being rewarded, period. But
this is about a settlement. You know, This is like
you know, if people get this, like everyday people understand this.

(07:43):
It's like the mayor waking up in his car is
repolled twice once at least in front of city Hall.
This is a guy that doesn't even know how to
manage his own checkbook, let alone the billion dollar checkbook
of the City of Cincinnati. So I'm not surprised that
he would say, I'm not worried about it because we'll
just issue some judgment bonds, kick twelve thousand dollars to

(08:06):
each person, wish them, I don't know, happy holiday, and
keep it moving. But that's what's wrong with city Hall.
And everybody down in city Hall is on the same team.
They will all coach sign on it. There will be
no descent on the settlement, meaning a member of council
could write a descent. I did many descent when I

(08:29):
was a council The mayor can't stop the descent. He
has to put the descent in and attach it to
the vote. You won't have anybody on this council the
dissent on settling the case. Absolutely, a member of councilors
could say this is the wrong decision for the taxpayers.
We should have gone the trial. But that's the problem.

(08:51):
I agree with with the with the president of the
FOP that this lies in the heart of our city
solicitor's office. But who's telling the city solicitor to settle
the case. It's the mayor, it's the guy whose car
was repolled. By the way, every elected official, including me,
has to file a financial report to the State of Ohio.

(09:13):
Everybody should be calling in or writing in to Columbus,
to the Ethics Commission asking did this mayor disclose he
had any impairments, any judgments against him when he filed
those reports over the last two years, because he should
have disclosed them to the State of Ohio. Now they're
not going to do a big thing about it. They're

(09:35):
not going to be it's not going to be a bit.
But the bottom line is that these are the kinds
of things that should be on the report, Gary Jeff
because it tells you that our mayor is impaired, Meaning
a mayor that is facing financial issues can be bribed,
He can jeopardize votes, he could move things in directions
in order for him to make get contributions to his campaign,

(09:57):
or bribery, which, by the way, City Hall has experienced
so you want to know that your mayor, that members
of council don't have judgments against them, they're not impaired,
because that means every developer, anybody in the city who's
doing business with the City of Cincinnati knows that this
mayor can't pay his own personal bills. That's why you're

(10:19):
supposed to disclose it to the State of Ohio. So, yes,
I can talk about the eight point one million, is
about the settlement. It's absolutely outrageous. I can say that
John Cranley dide an excellent job in keeping our city
safe during that period of time. And I can also
say that John Cranley never had financial issues. He always
focused on trying to come with a balance budget, and

(10:41):
this mayor continues to fail us. And by the way,
in closing on this segment, we should have known about
those repossessions. We should have known that his cars were
being reposed prior to the election. We should have known
about this settlement prior to the elections. But guess what,
voters election have consequences.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Malfeasans is no stranger and we can keep going for
a few more minutes. Chris Joe tells me we've got
the green light. For more time, if you've got more time.
But malfeasans is no new thing in the City of Cincinnati.
You know by AFTEP pure vall standard, Liz Rogers could
be mayor. I mean after she after she had two bankruptcies,

(11:28):
and they gave her a restaurant at the banks.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
So that matter of fact, Look, that was one of
those deals that I voted no on. I got a
lot of pushback by some African American voters in the
City of Cincinnati. But ultimately, let me make it clear,
the city, No, the city didn't get their money back,

(11:53):
which is what we were told. So that's number one,
and there's no one on council that will ever ask
about it. Period number two that the city didn't shut
her down, Gary Jeff, It was the state of Ohio. No,
it was the same issue that she was experiencing in Hamilton,
which is taking your sales tax, not surrendering it to

(12:14):
the state, and then using that to cash flow the
operation of the business. So ultimately they said, hey, when
you collect the sales tax, turn it into us. She
wasn't doing that. They came downtown and put notices on
her doors and change on her door. So to the public.
People were saying, oh man, the city council shut her

(12:34):
down the city. That's not what happened. The state of
Ohio shut that business down for failure to turn over
her sales tax to them. That's it. It's not complicated.
This was a person who obviously had trouble running a business.
You're right. That's another example, and we can give many
examples over the years of the city hall trying to

(12:56):
pick winners and losers. But at the end of the day,
it's rare to have a sitting mayor have their cars reposed. Yes,
and at the same time do a settlement of eight
point one million dollars and tell the citizens that was
our only choice. It wasn't we could have gone to trial.
It is exactly what we should have done.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
One point seven million Americans have their cars repossessed on
any regular basis every year in this country.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
Chris.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
But my question is, and there are so many reasons
why that you know this could be possible, why this
could happen, is what is Mayor Purevoll's salary as mayor.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
It's it's pretty I'm guessing around one hundred and twenty
five thousand a year. He's probably met in about eight
eight or eight or eighty five hundred dollars every single month,
something that most citizens will never see in their lifetime.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Right, And I guess the navigator maybe was costing him
about five or six hundred a month.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
Max.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
I understand if somebody has a medical emergency or there's
some issue that just occurs out of the blue. But
because you are careless and mess up an auto pay
for one month, the repo company, the finance company doesn't
come and take your car away. This happened, This had

(14:16):
to happen over at least a three month period. It's
usually ninety days, and they will make every attempt to
contact you in the interim to tell you you are
interrears with your car payment. So he was notified, he
knew about it. It wasn't carelessness. He just didn't pay

(14:39):
for three months, right.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
So they at least three months, at least three months,
because it could have been four or five months. And
they knew that with the mayor, right, So you do
know that they were trying to be as costs as
they possibly could be. And so you are so right, Gary, Jeff,
you know, for him to do an interview and act

(15:02):
like this, is a thirty day scenario. He obviously was
not telling the truth. Period, I mean my period.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Even my cable company even gives me as much money
as I'm paying them, and I'm not happy about that,
that's my fault. But my cable company even gives me
a fifteen day grace period to pay my bill and
there's no late fee.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
Yes, okay, yes, Think about every citizen out there who's
watching this council raise their taxes right whatever it is,
or advocate for raising their taxes or property taxes, city taxes, fees,
whatever they are.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
A brand new fee, brand new feed just went a
new effect in certain places for restaurants and hotels.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
That's right. So as we're processing this, the everyday person,
let's make it real, gets up every day, goes to work,
balances out their checkbook, lives within their budget for forty years, retires,
then lives on some retirement and social security, and they
still pay their bills. They're paying for their medicine, everything,

(16:10):
and they're never having their car or their house ever Repolle.
This is an example of someone who doesn't know how
to manage their personal finances from a financial planner's perspective
and So this is the reality is we're not we're
again the laughing joke right of the of the state,

(16:31):
and of the county and of the entire country that
we have a mayor whose car is being repolled at
the same time they're advocating to raising our taxes and
they themselves are voting to raise our taxes. It makes
absolutely no sense. And then there by the way, look
at the settlement to you, Gary, Jeff, Look for the

(16:52):
fire chief. He's coming up three to five million dollars
for most likely Chief Washington. Look for Chief Fiji. There's
going to be at there. So when we issue judgment
bonds for eight or ten million a city officials, if
you're listening to me, you might as well pump it
up to fifteen to eighteen million while you're in the
bond market, because you're going to continue to pay out

(17:13):
these kinds of settlements based on the irresponsible decisions that
are coming from the administration.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Well, the money tree will be bare again very soon, Chris.
Maybe they can find another railroad to sell. Uh. Chris
Smitherman with the Monday Spleen event this morning. Good stuff,
Thank you, my friend and Mary.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
Christmas, thanks for having me on Merry Christmas

Speaker 4 (17:37):
To you too, all right, it's seven forty

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