January 14, 2026 • 16 mins
Jack Atherton discusses the complexities of American politics, focusing on the paralysis caused by rigid principles and the challenges of bipartisanship. He draws historical parallels to illustrate the difficulties in amending the Constitution and the implications of social media on political discourse. The conversation emphasizes the need for compromise and the importance of informed voter participation in elections. Takeaways
- Conservative principles can lead to political paralysis.
- The U.S. Constitution is a complex framework that requires careful navigation.
- Amending the Constitution is intentionally difficult to preserve rights.
- Judicial interpretation can shift with the political landscape.
- Bipartisanship is increasingly rare in today's political climate.
- Social media influences public perception and political ideology.
- Voter participation is crucial for shaping the political landscape.
- The radical left's agenda poses a threat to constitutional rights.
- Compromise is essential for effective governance.
- Political discourse has become more polarized and chaotic.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Seven oh six here at fifty five k see de
Talk station. Always a special time here on the fifty
five Cars Morning Show because we get a dose to
the brilliance of Jack other and it's called The Big
Picture with Jack Avian And every Wednesday it's seven oh five,
it's seven oh six today the Price of Purity. Jack Athan,
welcome back to the fifty five KRS Morning Show. My friend.
(00:23):
Always look forward to this segment. I know a lot
of my listeners feel the same way.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Thanks for having me back now, and we're all pulling
for your upcoming cancer treatments. But you're getting better and better.
Amesley is now a ten year survivor and you've got
decades to come of waking up at two am.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
That's very kind of you. Yeah, pray for me for
a cure for boredom tomorrow. Six hours with the drip.
I just you know, I'm happy that I've got the drip.
I'm happy that I've got doctors. I'm happy that I
can access medical care in this country. He was joking,
if I was in vent as well or a cube,
i'd be dead by now. But the idea sitting in
(01:02):
that room for six hours, he's just really got me
a little depressed. But you know what sucks to be you, Thomas,
and I'm not worthy of any pity. I'm just not
looking forward to it. I'm taking my laptop though, so
at least a bit of watch movies and maybe prepare
for the morning show for Friday.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
We're just happy to have you, thanks man. Let's talk
this week once again about conservatives whose unbending principles would
leave our country paralyzed. They follow in the footsteps, Well,
footsteps actually is not the way to put it, because
they don't get anywhere, and they stand right next to
(01:38):
an ancient Greek philosopher named Zeno, who famously proved that
we can never get anywhere because first you need to
go half the distance, and to go half the distance,
you first have to go one quarter of the distance,
and before that one eighth, one sixteenth, smaller and smaller distances,
(01:59):
until finally you're stuck standing still, paralyzed. In political terms,
if your country is paralyzed and there's an emergency, you're
unable to defend yourself. Now at the opposite extreme way
of thinking, the Greeks also had Alexander the Great, the
(02:19):
kid Conqueror, was confronted by a puzzle a hank of
rope tied into a knot. This so called Gordian knot
was so complicated it was prophesied that anybody who could
undo it would rule all the known world. Well, Alexander
had never been a boy scout, and it didn't know
how to untie complicated knots. So instead he took out
(02:41):
his sword and cut the knot in two. Again, Alexander
conquered the know world known to him. The Gordian knot
today is our constitution. We don't want to cut it,
but we also don't want to be tied up in knots.
Adopted by our founders ing time of divine right monarchs
(03:02):
and other autocratic rulers, the US Constitution, this miracle of
state craft, presents a framework for limited, decentralized, divided government. Still,
the founders never wanted the Constitution to paralyze us, so
Madison and the other framers included a way to amend it.
(03:23):
A constitutional amendment can be proposed by two thirds of
both the House of Representatives and the Senate, or an
amendment can be proposed by two thirds of the state legislatures.
Then the amendment must be ratified by three fords of
the state legislatures or by conventions held in three fourths
(03:43):
of the states. Easy pasy, right, No, This tough ratification
process explains why we have so few constitutional amendments, just
twenty seven and actually the first ten amendments, what we
call the Bill of Rights, they were adopted right. So
Congress and the states have since then ratified just seventeen
(04:05):
constitutional amendments, all since our founding. And that's a good thing, Brian,
as you know, because making it so tough to amend
the Constitution has preserved our basic rights. For instance, millions
of leftists today would gladly scrap the right to bear arms,
especially after a school shooting. It took the Supreme Court
(04:28):
ruling just seventeen years ago in the Heller case to
finally affirm that under the Second Amendment, the right to
bear arms belongs to individuals, not just state militias. But
that Supreme Court vote was five to four. The Heller
decision could be reversed any time if the Supreme Court
(04:49):
becomes more liberal, just as Roe v. Wade was reversed
when the Court became more pro life. This raises the
thorny issue of judicial interpreter. We like to think the
courts are impartial, just following the law, but sorry, your honors,
they are not. Ever since the eighteen oh three decision
(05:10):
Barbary versus Madison, we have accepted that laws, including the Constitution,
mean whatever a shifting bare majority of Supreme Court justices
say they mean. Still having to propose an amendments of
the Constitution and then having to get it ratified, and
then getting the US Supreme Court to agree on an interpretation.
(05:33):
All that makes the United States a comparatively stable republic
of laws, not whims, passions, and referendums. However, it also
means that America is not the most agual government. It's
often hard for us to take quick emergency action. As
Zeno would say, we cannot get from point A to
(05:54):
point B even if we need to dodge a bullet,
even if Iranian new plans may have been weeks away
from being weaponized. Donald Trump's answer was to launch secret
lightning fast airstrikes without a congressional declaration of war or
even prior notice to Congress. This strike followed a long tradition.
(06:17):
As we discussed last week, we noted that only thirteen
years after the Constitution was adopted, Thomas Jefferson, on his
own deployed US Marines to the shores of Tripoli to
free Americans from barbary pirates in Libya. More recently, Democrat
and Republican presidents have claimed the constitutional power as commander
(06:39):
in chief to fight without a congressional declaration of war
in I'm taking a big breath now, Korea, Cuba, Vietnam, Granada, Panama, Kosovo, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Libya, Iran,
and now Venezuela. Each time presidents declared national emergencies. In response,
(07:05):
Congress has sometimes appropriated funds after the fact, or it's
attempted to place constraints on presidents, as with Vietnam the
War Powers Resolution. However, since nineteen seventy three, presidents have
argued that this resolution is primarily about notifying Congress before
(07:26):
or after the fact, and have claimed that under the
separation of powers, an Act of Congress cannot diminish a
president's own constitutional powers. So the debate continues. But folks,
the real problem is that in twenty twenty six, we
have no more debates. In the past. Many Republicans, however,
(07:49):
reluctantly supported Democrat presidents from Harry Truman and Korea to
Barack Obama and his five hundred and forty drone strikes
in seven countries. On the other hand, Richard Nixon fought
an undeclared war in Vietnam with help from Democrats like
Scoop Jackson and Ronald Reagan. He was able to gain
(08:10):
so much support a whole wing in Congress came to
be called Reagan Democrats. Today, this kind of bipartisanship is unthinkable.
That Democrats' chief campaign strategy is polarization chaos, Trump derangement
syndrome Exhibit A Minnesota. Today's Democrats have no agenda, and
(08:33):
when I say no, I mean no agenda they can
admit to. In their quest for power. They favor big
state socialism, corruption dependency, open borders to swell their base,
and shipping jobs overseas to win support from multinational corporations.
On these issues, they will not compromise. So, given this
(08:55):
legislative paralysis, what we have to rely on now is
not our doing in front of a shifting majority on
the Supreme Court. Not with Democrats once again threatening like
FDR to expand and pack the High Court with Liberals.
If they win, we must win elections, however rigged they
may be. In blue states, we still do have congressional
(09:18):
elections every two years, including this year. Voters will have
the power to follow Trump's agenda or change the country's direction,
and this spring will also have the power to primary
incumbent lawmakers, including Republican members, who would stand in the
way of fellow Republicans getting things done because these mavericks
(09:43):
cannot persuade their own colleagues to see things their way,
and failing that, they refuse to compromise even to just
keep the government from shutting down. These gadflies proclaim their principles,
but in effect they vote for paralysis. To some up,
governing is a messy business. Lincoln ignored habeas corpus, Franklin
(10:07):
Roosevelt threw innocent American citizens of Japanese descent into internment cabs.
I am not proposing that presidents become dictators. I am
arguing for principled compromise because our constitution is not a
suicide fact. It's not a Zeno trap that keeps America
from moving from point A to point B. If Republican paralysis,
(10:31):
lets Democrats win in November, much less twenty twenty eight,
they will pack the court. They will try making Washington,
DC and Puerto Rico states, they will outlaw free speech,
and the Constitution will go the way of the Gordian
Knot each exercise of power by a president, Congress, and
(10:52):
even the Supreme Court has to be judged on its
own merits, ultimately at the ballot box, because for now, thankfully,
voters still had the final say if they show up
to say it. What do you say, brother?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I say, the latter part is a big challenge. I mean,
this is a common reoccurring theme here everywhere, certainly here
on the fifty five Casey Morning Show. These complex issues
in this gridlock, and these other issues behind which they
should be talking about and maybe compromising that it's all
lost in the American people generally speaking. And I don't
mean to paint with so large a brush. It includes everyone,
(11:27):
but so many people are not inclined to even pay
attention to politics. We're all victims of social media, getting
our political ideology from memes as opposed to thoughtful analysis.
Something like a meme can push people like to think,
oh my god, iceer a bunch of Nazi you know,
Gestapo thugs, when any measure of thoughtful analysis would reveal No,
(11:48):
they are enforcing federal law. Law that's on the books,
and that was passed by Congress and enacted by a
prior president. That's the law they're enforcing. That was the
political process in place back when the laws wanted to
effect that they disagree with them. Currently, that's going to
require some political process and perhaps compromise by our elected
officials in Washington, d C. None of which is happening
(12:09):
right now. But you know, people who don't pay attention,
who prefer to be you know, I just I don't
pay attention to politics, they can easily be duped. But
going back to your prior you know, illustrations of compromise,
I think a Tip O'Neill. You know, I didn't like
Tip O'Neil at the time, but ultimately he did reach
across the island worked with Ronald Reagan to get some
stuff done to our collective economic recovery benefit. No one's
(12:34):
in the mood for working together because I think it's
a consequence of this radical leftward shift in the Democrat Party.
Democrats aren't just a party of you know, the little
guy in fighting for big government programs anymore. Although they
still do that, they seem to be made up in
large part, at least the predominant wing of the party,
(12:54):
or the loudest voice of people who do not wish
to continue the constitutional framework we live in. So this
concern of yours, legitimate as it is, over the eradication
disappearing constitution, that's a desired thing by many members of
the left. We're going to rise like phoenix from the
ashes once we get rid of that pesky constitution and
(13:15):
there's stupid protection of rights, individual rights like the right
to keep them bare arms. Once that's eradicated, we're going
to have something new here that is a level that
this country I don't think has ever seen before. Yes,
there were always fringe elements screaming for that kind of
thing back in the day. But you know, even going
back to the turn of the century in nineteen hundreds,
we had a lot of socialists and communists running around,
(13:36):
a lot of bomb throwers. We had, you know, back
in the sixties, the Symbian Litleanese Limionese army and the
weather underground, you know, planning bombs in the Senate. You know, bathroom,
I mean big things like that, But they were such
a minority. The social media has caused these minority groups
that hate America to look like they're much stronger than
(13:59):
they are, or they become a lot stronger. So any
compromise by that winging the Democratic Party is going to
be a betrayal of what they ultimately run, which is
the downfall of America.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Jack. Yeah, the primary process may ultimately bring us a
Democrat nominee who, like Joe Biden, pretends to be a moderate,
but the Democrat Party has presently constituted has no future.
What I'm talking about right now, because this is what
we're facing during our primary season is maverick Republicans. And
(14:33):
you might say, well, there's just a few of them. Well,
we don't have much of a margin to give up
a few votes. And I can't blame these mavericks. Ideological
purity makes life easy. The Constitution gives Congress the right
to declare war. That's it. Well it's not it. As
we've been trying to show, problems cannot be reduced to
(14:55):
a formula. As every lawyer, judge, and congressman knows, the
is the saying we learned in law school, hard cases
make bad bad facts, yeah, and bad executive orders. Sometimes
that saying does not mean we can stick our heads
in the sand and ignore the hard cases. It means
in the real world, the world of Jefferson, Lincoln, FDR
(15:18):
and Trump, if you're going to be not an academic
but what Teddy Roosevelt called the man in the arena,
you have to balance black letter law with life and
remain as principled as possible given circumstances. Then in America
you have to face the voters, and we voters have
to turn out.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Have to turn out, and hopefully we turn out informed.
Jack added in The Big Picture every Wednesday at seven
o five beginning. Love your commentary, Jack, and I and
my listeners love it as well. Share the link with
your friends. Podcast up at fifty five Cares dot Com.
Jack until next week, Best of health and love to
your better half, and you appreciate your willingness to talk
with us every week. It's all
Seven oh six here at fifty five k see de
Talk station. Always a special time here on the fifty
five Cars Morning Show because we get a dose to
the brilliance of Jack other and it's called The Big
Picture with Jack Avian And every Wednesday it's seven oh five,
it's seven oh six today the Price of Purity. Jack Athan,
welcome back to the fifty five KRS Morning Show. My friend.
(00:23):
Always look forward to this segment. I know a lot
of my listeners feel the same way.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Thanks for having me back now, and we're all pulling
for your upcoming cancer treatments. But you're getting better and better.
Amesley is now a ten year survivor and you've got
decades to come of waking up at two am.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
That's very kind of you. Yeah, pray for me for
a cure for boredom tomorrow. Six hours with the drip.
I just you know, I'm happy that I've got the drip.
I'm happy that I've got doctors. I'm happy that I
can access medical care in this country. He was joking,
if I was in vent as well or a cube,
i'd be dead by now. But the idea sitting in
(01:02):
that room for six hours, he's just really got me
a little depressed. But you know what sucks to be you, Thomas,
and I'm not worthy of any pity. I'm just not
looking forward to it. I'm taking my laptop though, so
at least a bit of watch movies and maybe prepare
for the morning show for Friday.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
We're just happy to have you, thanks man. Let's talk
this week once again about conservatives whose unbending principles would
leave our country paralyzed. They follow in the footsteps, Well,
footsteps actually is not the way to put it, because
they don't get anywhere, and they stand right next to
(01:38):
an ancient Greek philosopher named Zeno, who famously proved that
we can never get anywhere because first you need to
go half the distance, and to go half the distance,
you first have to go one quarter of the distance,
and before that one eighth, one sixteenth, smaller and smaller distances,
(01:59):
until finally you're stuck standing still, paralyzed. In political terms,
if your country is paralyzed and there's an emergency, you're
unable to defend yourself. Now at the opposite extreme way
of thinking, the Greeks also had Alexander the Great, the
(02:19):
kid Conqueror, was confronted by a puzzle a hank of
rope tied into a knot. This so called Gordian knot
was so complicated it was prophesied that anybody who could
undo it would rule all the known world. Well, Alexander
had never been a boy scout, and it didn't know
how to untie complicated knots. So instead he took out
(02:41):
his sword and cut the knot in two. Again, Alexander
conquered the know world known to him. The Gordian knot
today is our constitution. We don't want to cut it,
but we also don't want to be tied up in knots.
Adopted by our founders ing time of divine right monarchs
(03:02):
and other autocratic rulers, the US Constitution, this miracle of
state craft, presents a framework for limited, decentralized, divided government. Still,
the founders never wanted the Constitution to paralyze us, so
Madison and the other framers included a way to amend it.
(03:23):
A constitutional amendment can be proposed by two thirds of
both the House of Representatives and the Senate, or an
amendment can be proposed by two thirds of the state legislatures.
Then the amendment must be ratified by three fords of
the state legislatures or by conventions held in three fourths
(03:43):
of the states. Easy pasy, right, No, This tough ratification
process explains why we have so few constitutional amendments, just
twenty seven and actually the first ten amendments, what we
call the Bill of Rights, they were adopted right. So
Congress and the states have since then ratified just seventeen
(04:05):
constitutional amendments, all since our founding. And that's a good thing, Brian,
as you know, because making it so tough to amend
the Constitution has preserved our basic rights. For instance, millions
of leftists today would gladly scrap the right to bear arms,
especially after a school shooting. It took the Supreme Court
(04:28):
ruling just seventeen years ago in the Heller case to
finally affirm that under the Second Amendment, the right to
bear arms belongs to individuals, not just state militias. But
that Supreme Court vote was five to four. The Heller
decision could be reversed any time if the Supreme Court
(04:49):
becomes more liberal, just as Roe v. Wade was reversed
when the Court became more pro life. This raises the
thorny issue of judicial interpreter. We like to think the
courts are impartial, just following the law, but sorry, your honors,
they are not. Ever since the eighteen oh three decision
(05:10):
Barbary versus Madison, we have accepted that laws, including the Constitution,
mean whatever a shifting bare majority of Supreme Court justices
say they mean. Still having to propose an amendments of
the Constitution and then having to get it ratified, and
then getting the US Supreme Court to agree on an interpretation.
(05:33):
All that makes the United States a comparatively stable republic
of laws, not whims, passions, and referendums. However, it also
means that America is not the most agual government. It's
often hard for us to take quick emergency action. As
Zeno would say, we cannot get from point A to
(05:54):
point B even if we need to dodge a bullet,
even if Iranian new plans may have been weeks away
from being weaponized. Donald Trump's answer was to launch secret
lightning fast airstrikes without a congressional declaration of war or
even prior notice to Congress. This strike followed a long tradition.
(06:17):
As we discussed last week, we noted that only thirteen
years after the Constitution was adopted, Thomas Jefferson, on his
own deployed US Marines to the shores of Tripoli to
free Americans from barbary pirates in Libya. More recently, Democrat
and Republican presidents have claimed the constitutional power as commander
(06:39):
in chief to fight without a congressional declaration of war
in I'm taking a big breath now, Korea, Cuba, Vietnam, Granada, Panama, Kosovo, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Libya, Iran,
and now Venezuela. Each time presidents declared national emergencies. In response,
(07:05):
Congress has sometimes appropriated funds after the fact, or it's
attempted to place constraints on presidents, as with Vietnam the
War Powers Resolution. However, since nineteen seventy three, presidents have
argued that this resolution is primarily about notifying Congress before
(07:26):
or after the fact, and have claimed that under the
separation of powers, an Act of Congress cannot diminish a
president's own constitutional powers. So the debate continues. But folks,
the real problem is that in twenty twenty six, we
have no more debates. In the past. Many Republicans, however,
(07:49):
reluctantly supported Democrat presidents from Harry Truman and Korea to
Barack Obama and his five hundred and forty drone strikes
in seven countries. On the other hand, Richard Nixon fought
an undeclared war in Vietnam with help from Democrats like
Scoop Jackson and Ronald Reagan. He was able to gain
(08:10):
so much support a whole wing in Congress came to
be called Reagan Democrats. Today, this kind of bipartisanship is unthinkable.
That Democrats' chief campaign strategy is polarization chaos, Trump derangement
syndrome Exhibit A Minnesota. Today's Democrats have no agenda, and
(08:33):
when I say no, I mean no agenda they can
admit to. In their quest for power. They favor big
state socialism, corruption dependency, open borders to swell their base,
and shipping jobs overseas to win support from multinational corporations.
On these issues, they will not compromise. So, given this
(08:55):
legislative paralysis, what we have to rely on now is
not our doing in front of a shifting majority on
the Supreme Court. Not with Democrats once again threatening like
FDR to expand and pack the High Court with Liberals.
If they win, we must win elections, however rigged they
may be. In blue states, we still do have congressional
(09:18):
elections every two years, including this year. Voters will have
the power to follow Trump's agenda or change the country's direction,
and this spring will also have the power to primary
incumbent lawmakers, including Republican members, who would stand in the
way of fellow Republicans getting things done because these mavericks
(09:43):
cannot persuade their own colleagues to see things their way,
and failing that, they refuse to compromise even to just
keep the government from shutting down. These gadflies proclaim their principles,
but in effect they vote for paralysis. To some up,
governing is a messy business. Lincoln ignored habeas corpus, Franklin
(10:07):
Roosevelt threw innocent American citizens of Japanese descent into internment cabs.
I am not proposing that presidents become dictators. I am
arguing for principled compromise because our constitution is not a
suicide fact. It's not a Zeno trap that keeps America
from moving from point A to point B. If Republican paralysis,
(10:31):
lets Democrats win in November, much less twenty twenty eight,
they will pack the court. They will try making Washington,
DC and Puerto Rico states, they will outlaw free speech,
and the Constitution will go the way of the Gordian
Knot each exercise of power by a president, Congress, and
(10:52):
even the Supreme Court has to be judged on its
own merits, ultimately at the ballot box, because for now, thankfully,
voters still had the final say if they show up
to say it. What do you say, brother?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I say, the latter part is a big challenge. I mean,
this is a common reoccurring theme here everywhere, certainly here
on the fifty five Casey Morning Show. These complex issues
in this gridlock, and these other issues behind which they
should be talking about and maybe compromising that it's all
lost in the American people generally speaking. And I don't
mean to paint with so large a brush. It includes everyone,
(11:27):
but so many people are not inclined to even pay
attention to politics. We're all victims of social media, getting
our political ideology from memes as opposed to thoughtful analysis.
Something like a meme can push people like to think,
oh my god, iceer a bunch of Nazi you know,
Gestapo thugs, when any measure of thoughtful analysis would reveal No,
(11:48):
they are enforcing federal law. Law that's on the books,
and that was passed by Congress and enacted by a
prior president. That's the law they're enforcing. That was the
political process in place back when the laws wanted to
effect that they disagree with them. Currently, that's going to
require some political process and perhaps compromise by our elected
officials in Washington, d C. None of which is happening
(12:09):
right now. But you know, people who don't pay attention,
who prefer to be you know, I just I don't
pay attention to politics, they can easily be duped. But
going back to your prior you know, illustrations of compromise,
I think a Tip O'Neill. You know, I didn't like
Tip O'Neil at the time, but ultimately he did reach
across the island worked with Ronald Reagan to get some
stuff done to our collective economic recovery benefit. No one's
(12:34):
in the mood for working together because I think it's
a consequence of this radical leftward shift in the Democrat Party.
Democrats aren't just a party of you know, the little
guy in fighting for big government programs anymore. Although they
still do that, they seem to be made up in
large part, at least the predominant wing of the party,
(12:54):
or the loudest voice of people who do not wish
to continue the constitutional framework we live in. So this
concern of yours, legitimate as it is, over the eradication
disappearing constitution, that's a desired thing by many members of
the left. We're going to rise like phoenix from the
ashes once we get rid of that pesky constitution and
(13:15):
there's stupid protection of rights, individual rights like the right
to keep them bare arms. Once that's eradicated, we're going
to have something new here that is a level that
this country I don't think has ever seen before. Yes,
there were always fringe elements screaming for that kind of
thing back in the day. But you know, even going
back to the turn of the century in nineteen hundreds,
we had a lot of socialists and communists running around,
(13:36):
a lot of bomb throwers. We had, you know, back
in the sixties, the Symbian Litleanese Limionese army and the
weather underground, you know, planning bombs in the Senate. You know, bathroom,
I mean big things like that, But they were such
a minority. The social media has caused these minority groups
that hate America to look like they're much stronger than
(13:59):
they are, or they become a lot stronger. So any
compromise by that winging the Democratic Party is going to
be a betrayal of what they ultimately run, which is
the downfall of America.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Jack. Yeah, the primary process may ultimately bring us a
Democrat nominee who, like Joe Biden, pretends to be a moderate,
but the Democrat Party has presently constituted has no future.
What I'm talking about right now, because this is what
we're facing during our primary season is maverick Republicans. And
(14:33):
you might say, well, there's just a few of them. Well,
we don't have much of a margin to give up
a few votes. And I can't blame these mavericks. Ideological
purity makes life easy. The Constitution gives Congress the right
to declare war. That's it. Well it's not it. As
we've been trying to show, problems cannot be reduced to
(14:55):
a formula. As every lawyer, judge, and congressman knows, the
is the saying we learned in law school, hard cases
make bad bad facts, yeah, and bad executive orders. Sometimes
that saying does not mean we can stick our heads
in the sand and ignore the hard cases. It means
in the real world, the world of Jefferson, Lincoln, FDR
(15:18):
and Trump, if you're going to be not an academic
but what Teddy Roosevelt called the man in the arena,
you have to balance black letter law with life and
remain as principled as possible given circumstances. Then in America
you have to face the voters, and we voters have
to turn out.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Have to turn out, and hopefully we turn out informed.
Jack added in The Big Picture every Wednesday at seven
o five beginning. Love your commentary, Jack, and I and
my listeners love it as well. Share the link with
your friends. Podcast up at fifty five Cares dot Com.
Jack until next week, Best of health and love to
your better half, and you appreciate your willingness to talk
with us every week. It's all
Brian Thomas News
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iHeartOlympics: The Latest
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Milan Cortina Winter Olympics
The 2026 Winter Olympics in Milan Cortina are here and have everyone talking. iHeartPodcasts is buzzing with content in honor of the XXV Winter Olympics We’re bringing you episodes from a variety of iHeartPodcast shows to help you keep up with the action. Follow Milan Cortina Winter Olympics so you don’t miss any coverage of the 2026 Winter Olympics, and if you like what you hear, be sure to follow each Podcast in the feed for more great content from iHeartPodcasts.