January 12, 2026 • 20 mins
In this conversation, Christopher Smitherman discusses the pressing political issues in Cincinnati, focusing on settlement negotiations, public safety, and the accountability of city officials. He expresses concerns about the lack of transparency in city council decisions and the implications for taxpayers. The discussion also touches on broader cultural issues regarding law enforcement and the upcoming elections, emphasizing the need for community engagement and accountability in governance.
Takeaways
- The city council's decision-making process lacks transparency.
- Settlement negotiations should involve public input and scrutiny.
- Public safety is a critical concern for the community.
- There is a growing frustration with how taxpayer money is being spent.
- Cultural attitudes towards law enforcement are shifting and need to be addressed.
- Elections have significant consequences for local governance.
- Community engagement is essential for accountability in politics.
- The political landscape is changing, with new candidates emerging.
- There is a need for a fresh perspective in Ohio's governance.
- Values, not race, should guide discussions on law enforcement and public policy.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Fifty five K the talk station.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Seventy on a Monday. I always look forward to this
moment in time get to hear from the former Vice
mayor of the City of Cincinnati, Christopher Smitheman, who's still
still heavily active and engaged in matters political, especially with
downtown Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Christopher Smitheman, Welcome back to the morning show, my friend.
What a real eye opener on Friday with the information
from Signal ninety nine and FOP President Ken kober.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Well. I listened to the whole show. It was very powerful,
and I thank people like her. You know, she doesn't
have to do that, she doesn't have to spend her
time doing it, and she's giving accurate information out and
it's why the inquirer outed her. You know, you know
who is this writing this? We demand to know. They
(00:49):
don't do that for anybody. It's because of the fear
of the factual information that she was putting out. So yes,
I enjoyed her immensely. Of course, I always enjoy the
president of the FOP, and I hope that she will
continue to come on and continue to provide you know
the information that she has. You know, I want to
(01:10):
piggyback off that interview on Friday to talk about today.
And so as council goes it makes the decision of
whether they're going to go into executive session. Every member
of council should vote. Know, Brian Thomas, this is going
to have me fired up next Monday. Okay, now hold
(01:31):
on call that roll call. Vote yes real quick. Now.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
One of the big burning questions in my mind in
signal ninety nine and can cover certainly didn't know the
answer to this, and I'm wondering whether you know. Does
the city manager Cheryl Long have the authority to enter
into settlement negotiations? Does she have the authority to bind
the city into a settlement agreement to the extent she
comes up with? One? City council have any say in
(01:57):
matters that involve money in the city taxpayers are the
allocation of city taxpayers dollars? Christopher? Can she even do this?
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Law? The law? The law department can, and because the
law department is its own entity, right, law, the legal
team can. Now, there are situations and this is one
of them where council should intervene and say yes or no.
But I'm letting you know the law. The law of
departments in most cities, but the law department here has
(02:28):
a lot of power to negotiate things and say yes
or no to them. And she's the city manager, and
the city solicitor reports to the city manager. Now, having
said all that, Brian, look they don't have to go
into executive session. So that's a role called votes. And
(02:49):
so all the accolade to any council member about how
they feel about this, will know it today if they say,
we're going to hide this discussion from Brian Thomas, from
signal ninety nine, from Christopher samite Man and others.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
And that's what executive session means. I've heard no reporters
know that council members can't even take notes during this
executive sessions.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Does that make sense, scense, No.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
It doesn't make any sense to me. And why would
they put such a highly charged thing behind closed doors
when we just it was only revealed because of whistleblowers
like signal ninety nine and whoever talked with her, that
there was even a subtlement discussion going on. It sounds
to me like counsel wouldn't even have known about it
but for the whistleblowers.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
That is absolutely true. And remember the city manager came
out and said what it wasn't true. Well, they refuted
what Signal ninety nine would say. And I think they're
going to have to back away from that because if
they go into executive session, it means that what Signal
ninety nine communicated to the public was actually true and
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the city manager wasn't being truthful.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
They did not deny when you read the words from
the city manager, when you read the words from the
Hinton attorney, none of them denied that discussions were ongoing.
They just describe it differently, this massive settlement, you know,
the hinting lawyer. So I don't know anything about any
massive multimillion dollar settlement, Yes, sir, but do you admit
(04:19):
to engaging in settlement discussions with the city manager? My
statement just stands as it is. I mean, so that's
obviously a dodge dip, duck dive and dodge five d's
a dodgeball kind of thing. The same thing from the
city manager. Long She didn't deny that there were settlement discussions.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
She didn't.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
She just denied the characterization of them, which is a
nonsensical way of trying to dodge the bullet and deny
when you're really not denying, so.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Well they will at least call it a white line.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah, yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
But the bottom line here is a signal ninety nine
exposed something that was happening. And this is on the
back of the eight point one million dollars settlement. Right,
this is on the back of that. So the city
is saying we're gonna raise your taxes, but they're engaging
in giving money. Now, let's just rewind for the public. Now,
(05:06):
this is the young man who had a gun in
a stolen car running from our law enforcement. My absolute
heart goes out to this family. But that is a
recipe for an officer, unfortunately, to use deadly force. The
father then turned around the next day identify the sheriff
(05:29):
over at UC doing traffic control for their graduation, and
ran him over with a vehicle. That's the discussion we're
talking about, right, because my heart goes out to that
family today. For this council to go into executive session
is a smack in the face of all law enforcement
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across the United States of America period. We deserve to
know what they're talking about, because we have a sheriff
and a family still grieving because his father ran him over.
He had nothing to do with it, Brian, and that
is what is so frustrating to me.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Well, another component of the frustration, you know, moving aside
from the tragedy that befell the sheriff's family, the sheriff's
deputy family, it's the city tax payer who's going to
be on the hook for an increase in their earnings
tax why in an interest of public safety? This seems
to be you know, steeped in public safety related issues.
And maybe one more place that the city tax dollars
(06:32):
are going to be spent settling a lawsuit that never
he has even been filed for an action that didn't
even justify prosecution. See Connie Pilach about that. One will
bring Christopher Smitheman back at seven twenty seven right now
fifty five kerseit the talk station. Let me speaking of
shooting imation. That's seven to thirty on a Monday, in
a happy one to you, Brian Thomas with Christopher smith
Aman do every Monday the Smith events. Would I like
(06:53):
to call it former Vice mayor of the City of Cincinnati,
just giving you an opportunity to get out of your
system here in the morning show, Christopher, and I love it.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Well. Listen, brother, we have a culture of no accountability,
a culture of no common sense in America, and I'm
gonna tie. First of all, I love all the local
news you're covering. I turn on your show, and I
encourage anybody listening. You know, Brian comes on at five am,
and he goes off at nine am, and we get
a breath of information about what is going on in
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our city. But let me say this to you, brother,
that what I'm seeing nationally like ice and I stem
my condolences to Renee Good, that's the woman who is
shot in the head at Minneapolis. But here again, it's
a recipe, just like I spoke about the recipe for
the young man, mister Hinton, the recipe of trying to
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run down an ice officer with your vehicle. Okay, And
the context of this is it's been happening all over
the country. Ice officers don't know anymore. You're boxing them in.
You boxing a federal agent, a police officer, an FBI agent,
a DEA agent. Expect that agent to assume that you
(08:09):
are there to harm them. Brian Thomas, I don't know
what in the world is going on all these videos
that I'm seeing out here on x with with these
with these people across the country who think they can
follow an agent, they can block the agent in, they
can get in front of their vehicle and stop them.
They can, they can in the middle of an arrest,
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they can pull the officer. You can't arrest them. You
can't do what you're doing. Look this, you, You and
I knew and anybody listening with any common sense knew
that one day this was going to end up in
a deadly forced situation. Right. The reality of it is
is that person I'm talking about, Renee Good, was blocking
(08:50):
the road with her car. They don't even talk about that.
She pulled out in the road and was blocking the
federal officer in their vehicle. They got out of their
car and said move your who can't block the road?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah, interference with an officer performing his duties and enforcing
the law. Interfering with that is in and of itself
criminal activity. You can be cited for that. I mean,
that's probably why they were screaming at her to get
out of the car, because she had already committed the
crime of interfering with lawful law enforcement officers. So a period,
end of story, you don't listen to the police officers,
he might get shot, I mean, and to the fact
(09:23):
that she got shot. The left was waiting for that, Christopher,
you know, damn well, they wanted a martyr out of
all this. And much like George Floyd, maybe he got
the wrong one, considering there's so much video evidence of
her literally hitting the police officer. Whether you think deadly
force was justified, it was legitimate under the circumstances because
the man reasonably felt for his or thought his life
(09:46):
was in peril. He'd already been through this once someone
drug him him three hundred feet or so down the
road in a car previously while he was trying to
enforce the law. So you know he's on high alert
for his life being in peril, and that may have
prompted him to use a firearm. But uh, it's interference
with law enforcement. They just believe they can get away
with whatever they want. They've got this high moral authority,
(10:07):
and then you're you're belief that it's some high moral
authority does not trump the law.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Why do I have to, as a peace officer, be
drugged down the street before I use deadly force? I mean,
what is what are we thinking? You You bring your
car to a gunfight, right, expect to be shot. That
is a weapon. You cannot run me down in the roads.
(10:34):
And the the other part of it is what is
going on in our mindset in American culture that all
of us have been watching on TV. If you're watching
UH independent news stations, you're watching these protesters constantly do this.
And the reason I'm bringing it up is is directly
tied to the culture of the settlement that city council
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is talking about on today, meaning meaning meaning there's no
accountability here. Again, they're about to literally trash all law
enforcement by saying that in some way we owe Hinton
some money. We then give eight point one million dollars
away to protesters in downtown. For these are taxpayer not
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their money, our money. We're gonna go away. We're gonna
give that eight We're gonna give eight point one million
dollars away with them. And on the same time, we
see this national stuff happening with no accountability. Brian Thomas,
guess what our mayor says, We're gonna We're gonna increase taxes.
I don't want to pay for this craft. I don't
want any money. I work incredibly hard as a small
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business owner to do what I do. I don't want
to give the city any more of my money. I
am tired of them, and that is what is happening.
People are deciding I want to leave the city of Cincinnati.
I'm gonna move my business, I'm gonna move my house.
I don't want to be a part of this because
they continue to do craziness like this. The hintings craziness
(12:02):
is absolutely crazy. What we saw was Renee Good and
guess what. There will be a lawsuit related to Renee Good.
Oh yeah, somebody's gonna sue the federal government and you
and I. There are a lot of different camera angles
on this. Those who want to know, there's a camera
camera angle that clearly shows the officer in the front
(12:23):
of the vehicle being struck. Now, you can make up
and show whatever video you want out there, right, but
the reality of it is, there was an officer in
the front who was struck, who had his weapon and
discharged it, and that officer, that ice officer is gonna
absolutely be cleared, period. But you're still gonna see the
family turn around and sue the federal government, just like
(12:46):
the Hintons, just like the eight point one million dollars settlement.
We're gonna continue to see this lack of accountability and
common sense in our culture.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Brand Thomas, yes, we will. Well, at least ender of the
Trump administration Justice Apartment probably unlikely to settle or enter
into a quick settlement agreement with the family with a
good family. Let's bring Christopher back for one more seven
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(13:17):
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Amen doing the Smither events. Now, Christopher, I know it
was baked into the cake of what you were saying
with regard to the local issues we have in the
city of Cincinnati on crime, this whole hint and settlement
thing that's going to be talked about today as well
as the overlapping with the Minnesota issues and the shooting
of that is good woman who was interfering with officers
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doing their their their proper appropriate law enforcement role. A
lot of people are taking the cues from elected officials.
What do the mayor up there say, get the hell
he used a different word than hell out of my city. Ice.
They think they have the moral high ground thinking that
saying Ice are the modern day Gestapo and their jack
boot thugs, and oh my god, you know, really they're
(13:59):
only trying to get the worst of the worst out
of our country. But when you've got elected officials and
prominent political figures egging people on pivoting back over to
local iris, Rolli's on video interfering with police officers doing
their business, and according to Signal ninety nine, she was
actually at the Remember when the sheriff's deputy got ran
over the other day You just mentioned that. The day
after the hinting kid was shot, his father ran over
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and killed a sheriff's deputy. Signal ninety nine said she
was on the scenes there telling people witnesses to it
not to cooperate with police, and ended up being put
in the back of a police car. Herself wasn't cited.
The video camera evidence from that incident's apparently locked in
a safe to be seen by us down the road,
she says, But there she is prominent local figure Iris Rowley,
(14:43):
very politically connected and very prominent in impacting election outcomes,
doing exactly what you and I believe is the wrong thing,
putting officers lives in jeopardy as well as their own lives.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
First, I agree with you and the judge in the
case should release the video definitely in light of this
discussion about a settlement. But of course we won't have
that transparency, just like we didn't have the transparency and
the beatdown that happened in the middle of the city
where the gentleman clearly was punched first, and most Americans
(15:16):
don't know that. They still are looking at the old video,
and so this city has a problem with transparency. Ie
with Signal ninety nine, was sharing with us is executive
session today. I want to share two quick points with
you before we get off. I was at my daughter's
swim meeting. I know you were a swimmer, and it
was that Princeton High School thanked them for hosting. Seaton
(15:38):
has a phenomenal team, and my hat goes out to
coach Jody Schaeffer. But I was sitting there watching the
five hundred being swimmed by all of the different girls.
The difference between first and second place was less than
a second most of the time. Oh yeah, right, very
very close. Look, did you hear Brian Thomas here listening, Hoddey,
This is a swimmer. I couldn't imagine a dude in
(16:02):
that pool swimming against my daughter. This again goes back
to the lack of accountability and common sense that's coming
from the Democratic Party. And that's why so many Democrats
are saying I didn't leave the Democratic Party. The Democratic
Party left me. I couldn't imagine a dude swimming in
that pool a seat and swim meet against any of
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those girls as where they're cheering and they're trying to
get scholarships to go to college. It doesn't make any sense,
Brian Thomas, And this is what is wrong right now
in the Democratic Party. And I'm tying this directly to
the governor's race, where we see David Pepper now is
a running mate for Amy Acting. Look, let me share
(16:45):
it be really clear. I'm on the other side of that.
I support vivek Ramswami and I have supported him almost
from day one. That gubernatorial race is critical because it's
the check and balance to all these local municipalities around us.
If we lose the governor's office this year. We in Ohio,
(17:05):
we are in serious trouble. People. You cannot stay home
from that election like you just did in this local election.
We need every single body, every eighteen year old register
to vote, making sure your address matches the Board of Elections,
and we need everybody at the polls rocking it because
the other side, when you're watching these videos Brian Thomas,
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of people obstructing ice officers, obstructing police officers, right, all
of these settlements that you're seeing coming out of these
liberal cities. If we don't have a check and balance
in that governor's office, shame on us. This is a
very important race. And I have been shocked by mister
Pepper and all of his tweets over the weekend trying
(17:50):
to shame veak Ramaswami for being financially successful. He's a billionaire.
I get it, I understand it. He's self made. But
David Pepper got his money from his family. He's a
trust fund baby. And I'm sitting there going would I
want to trust fund baby in the governor gubernatorio or
the Governor's office? Or do I want a self made
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billionaire who knows how to make money, run budgets, pull
this dog on Ohio, this great state into the twenty
first century. Whether it's education, whether it's economics, whether it's jobs,
whether it's housing, you name it. We need a fresh
set of eyes on Ohio. And Brian, I am really
worried about this race, that people are getting lost in
(18:34):
the sauce. There is no way when she picked the
two of them together, to me, are like, I got
one who locked us all down, right, and I've got
the other one here who doesn't know anything about business,
that's just been handed with a silver spoof, and we
want to turn over the entire state of Ohio to them.
This makes absolutely no sense, Brian Thomas. And I'm telling you,
whether it's Leah Dinkin Locker who's running for the judgeship,
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we always talking about the judges and we're worried about
people being let out, Well, you better vote for Leah
dinky Locker. You're worried about Winkler. Winkler's running here locally,
we better elect him. My point, Brian is the penicillin.
You know it. Elections have consequences. We'll see it today
with the Executive Session. Who will vote to say no.
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Executive session. I'm going to shine a light on hinting
and whether we settle the case or not, I'm going
to have the courage to tell the public who will
pay the bill? Brian Thomas, We're the ones paying the bill,
not them, that they get a chance to listen to
the dialogue around whether we should give this family any
money at all. I extend my deepest condolences to this
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young man and his family, but we do not in
this city should not be giving them any money for
a young man who had a gun and a stolen
car running from an officer and turning that weapon towards
that officer, or that officer having it to take the
unfortunate to see going to take his life. Brian Thomas,
we are moving in a world here, brother, where it
(20:04):
is complete insanity. It's not black, it's not white, it's
not Latino. Brother, it's values, and my values are saying
what is right and wrong. We've got to go back
to common sense. I love you, Brian Thomas, event will
allowing me to have a voice on your show.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
It's always a pleasure. I appreciate your common sense words
and I'll look forward to another segment on this on Monday,
and maybe even another one before then. We find out
they do an executive session or we find out what
goes on behind the scenes. In one we get some
details on that. Maybe you have a chime in during
the week on that. So however, it's like.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
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me all right, take care.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Brother, take care of seven forty eight right now. If
you five car Seed talk station. Yeah, if you think right,
Fifty five K the talk station.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Seventy on a Monday. I always look forward to this
moment in time get to hear from the former Vice
mayor of the City of Cincinnati, Christopher Smitheman, who's still
still heavily active and engaged in matters political, especially with
downtown Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Christopher Smitheman, Welcome back to the morning show, my friend.
What a real eye opener on Friday with the information
from Signal ninety nine and FOP President Ken kober.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Well. I listened to the whole show. It was very powerful,
and I thank people like her. You know, she doesn't
have to do that, she doesn't have to spend her
time doing it, and she's giving accurate information out and
it's why the inquirer outed her. You know, you know
who is this writing this? We demand to know. They
(00:49):
don't do that for anybody. It's because of the fear
of the factual information that she was putting out. So yes,
I enjoyed her immensely. Of course, I always enjoy the
president of the FOP, and I hope that she will
continue to come on and continue to provide you know
the information that she has. You know, I want to
(01:10):
piggyback off that interview on Friday to talk about today.
And so as council goes it makes the decision of
whether they're going to go into executive session. Every member
of council should vote. Know, Brian Thomas, this is going
to have me fired up next Monday. Okay, now hold
(01:31):
on call that roll call. Vote yes real quick. Now.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
One of the big burning questions in my mind in
signal ninety nine and can cover certainly didn't know the
answer to this, and I'm wondering whether you know. Does
the city manager Cheryl Long have the authority to enter
into settlement negotiations? Does she have the authority to bind
the city into a settlement agreement to the extent she
comes up with? One? City council have any say in
(01:57):
matters that involve money in the city taxpayers are the
allocation of city taxpayers dollars? Christopher? Can she even do this?
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Law? The law? The law department can, and because the
law department is its own entity, right, law, the legal
team can. Now, there are situations and this is one
of them where council should intervene and say yes or no.
But I'm letting you know the law. The law of
departments in most cities, but the law department here has
(02:28):
a lot of power to negotiate things and say yes
or no to them. And she's the city manager, and
the city solicitor reports to the city manager. Now, having
said all that, Brian, look they don't have to go
into executive session. So that's a role called votes. And
(02:49):
so all the accolade to any council member about how
they feel about this, will know it today if they say,
we're going to hide this discussion from Brian Thomas, from
signal ninety nine, from Christopher samite Man and others.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
And that's what executive session means. I've heard no reporters
know that council members can't even take notes during this
executive sessions.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Does that make sense, scense, No.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
It doesn't make any sense to me. And why would
they put such a highly charged thing behind closed doors
when we just it was only revealed because of whistleblowers
like signal ninety nine and whoever talked with her, that
there was even a subtlement discussion going on. It sounds
to me like counsel wouldn't even have known about it
but for the whistleblowers.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
That is absolutely true. And remember the city manager came
out and said what it wasn't true. Well, they refuted
what Signal ninety nine would say. And I think they're
going to have to back away from that because if
they go into executive session, it means that what Signal
ninety nine communicated to the public was actually true and
(03:55):
the city manager wasn't being truthful.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
They did not deny when you read the words from
the city manager, when you read the words from the
Hinton attorney, none of them denied that discussions were ongoing.
They just describe it differently, this massive settlement, you know,
the hinting lawyer. So I don't know anything about any
massive multimillion dollar settlement, Yes, sir, but do you admit
(04:19):
to engaging in settlement discussions with the city manager? My
statement just stands as it is. I mean, so that's
obviously a dodge dip, duck dive and dodge five d's
a dodgeball kind of thing. The same thing from the
city manager. Long She didn't deny that there were settlement discussions.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
She didn't.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
She just denied the characterization of them, which is a
nonsensical way of trying to dodge the bullet and deny
when you're really not denying, so.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Well they will at least call it a white line.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah, yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
But the bottom line here is a signal ninety nine
exposed something that was happening. And this is on the
back of the eight point one million dollars settlement. Right,
this is on the back of that. So the city
is saying we're gonna raise your taxes, but they're engaging
in giving money. Now, let's just rewind for the public. Now,
(05:06):
this is the young man who had a gun in
a stolen car running from our law enforcement. My absolute
heart goes out to this family. But that is a
recipe for an officer, unfortunately, to use deadly force. The
father then turned around the next day identify the sheriff
(05:29):
over at UC doing traffic control for their graduation, and
ran him over with a vehicle. That's the discussion we're
talking about, right, because my heart goes out to that
family today. For this council to go into executive session
is a smack in the face of all law enforcement
(05:51):
across the United States of America period. We deserve to
know what they're talking about, because we have a sheriff
and a family still grieving because his father ran him over.
He had nothing to do with it, Brian, and that
is what is so frustrating to me.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Well, another component of the frustration, you know, moving aside
from the tragedy that befell the sheriff's family, the sheriff's
deputy family, it's the city tax payer who's going to
be on the hook for an increase in their earnings
tax why in an interest of public safety? This seems
to be you know, steeped in public safety related issues.
And maybe one more place that the city tax dollars
(06:32):
are going to be spent settling a lawsuit that never
he has even been filed for an action that didn't
even justify prosecution. See Connie Pilach about that. One will
bring Christopher Smitheman back at seven twenty seven right now
fifty five kerseit the talk station. Let me speaking of
shooting imation. That's seven to thirty on a Monday, in
a happy one to you, Brian Thomas with Christopher smith
Aman do every Monday the Smith events. Would I like
(06:53):
to call it former Vice mayor of the City of Cincinnati,
just giving you an opportunity to get out of your
system here in the morning show, Christopher, and I love it.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Well. Listen, brother, we have a culture of no accountability,
a culture of no common sense in America, and I'm
gonna tie. First of all, I love all the local
news you're covering. I turn on your show, and I
encourage anybody listening. You know, Brian comes on at five am,
and he goes off at nine am, and we get
a breath of information about what is going on in
(07:23):
our city. But let me say this to you, brother,
that what I'm seeing nationally like ice and I stem
my condolences to Renee Good, that's the woman who is
shot in the head at Minneapolis. But here again, it's
a recipe, just like I spoke about the recipe for
the young man, mister Hinton, the recipe of trying to
(07:47):
run down an ice officer with your vehicle. Okay, And
the context of this is it's been happening all over
the country. Ice officers don't know anymore. You're boxing them in.
You boxing a federal agent, a police officer, an FBI agent,
a DEA agent. Expect that agent to assume that you
(08:09):
are there to harm them. Brian Thomas, I don't know
what in the world is going on all these videos
that I'm seeing out here on x with with these
with these people across the country who think they can
follow an agent, they can block the agent in, they
can get in front of their vehicle and stop them.
They can, they can in the middle of an arrest,
(08:29):
they can pull the officer. You can't arrest them. You
can't do what you're doing. Look this, you, You and
I knew and anybody listening with any common sense knew
that one day this was going to end up in
a deadly forced situation. Right. The reality of it is
is that person I'm talking about, Renee Good, was blocking
(08:50):
the road with her car. They don't even talk about that.
She pulled out in the road and was blocking the
federal officer in their vehicle. They got out of their
car and said move your who can't block the road?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah, interference with an officer performing his duties and enforcing
the law. Interfering with that is in and of itself
criminal activity. You can be cited for that. I mean,
that's probably why they were screaming at her to get
out of the car, because she had already committed the
crime of interfering with lawful law enforcement officers. So a period,
end of story, you don't listen to the police officers,
he might get shot, I mean, and to the fact
(09:23):
that she got shot. The left was waiting for that, Christopher,
you know, damn well, they wanted a martyr out of
all this. And much like George Floyd, maybe he got
the wrong one, considering there's so much video evidence of
her literally hitting the police officer. Whether you think deadly
force was justified, it was legitimate under the circumstances because
the man reasonably felt for his or thought his life
(09:46):
was in peril. He'd already been through this once someone
drug him him three hundred feet or so down the
road in a car previously while he was trying to
enforce the law. So you know he's on high alert
for his life being in peril, and that may have
prompted him to use a firearm. But uh, it's interference
with law enforcement. They just believe they can get away
with whatever they want. They've got this high moral authority,
(10:07):
and then you're you're belief that it's some high moral
authority does not trump the law.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Why do I have to, as a peace officer, be
drugged down the street before I use deadly force? I mean,
what is what are we thinking? You You bring your
car to a gunfight, right, expect to be shot. That
is a weapon. You cannot run me down in the roads.
(10:34):
And the the other part of it is what is
going on in our mindset in American culture that all
of us have been watching on TV. If you're watching
UH independent news stations, you're watching these protesters constantly do this.
And the reason I'm bringing it up is is directly
tied to the culture of the settlement that city council
(10:56):
is talking about on today, meaning meaning meaning there's no
accountability here. Again, they're about to literally trash all law
enforcement by saying that in some way we owe Hinton
some money. We then give eight point one million dollars
away to protesters in downtown. For these are taxpayer not
(11:17):
their money, our money. We're gonna go away. We're gonna
give that eight We're gonna give eight point one million
dollars away with them. And on the same time, we
see this national stuff happening with no accountability. Brian Thomas,
guess what our mayor says, We're gonna We're gonna increase taxes.
I don't want to pay for this craft. I don't
want any money. I work incredibly hard as a small
(11:39):
business owner to do what I do. I don't want
to give the city any more of my money. I
am tired of them, and that is what is happening.
People are deciding I want to leave the city of Cincinnati.
I'm gonna move my business, I'm gonna move my house.
I don't want to be a part of this because
they continue to do craziness like this. The hintings craziness
(12:02):
is absolutely crazy. What we saw was Renee Good and
guess what. There will be a lawsuit related to Renee Good.
Oh yeah, somebody's gonna sue the federal government and you
and I. There are a lot of different camera angles
on this. Those who want to know, there's a camera
camera angle that clearly shows the officer in the front
(12:23):
of the vehicle being struck. Now, you can make up
and show whatever video you want out there, right, but
the reality of it is, there was an officer in
the front who was struck, who had his weapon and
discharged it, and that officer, that ice officer is gonna
absolutely be cleared, period. But you're still gonna see the
family turn around and sue the federal government, just like
(12:46):
the Hintons, just like the eight point one million dollars settlement.
We're gonna continue to see this lack of accountability and
common sense in our culture.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Brand Thomas, yes, we will. Well, at least ender of the
Trump administration Justice Apartment probably unlikely to settle or enter
into a quick settlement agreement with the family with a
good family. Let's bring Christopher back for one more seven
thirty seven right now. If you have have KRS the
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(13:17):
five KR city talks stations right times with Christopher Smith
Amen doing the Smither events. Now, Christopher, I know it
was baked into the cake of what you were saying
with regard to the local issues we have in the
city of Cincinnati on crime, this whole hint and settlement
thing that's going to be talked about today as well
as the overlapping with the Minnesota issues and the shooting
of that is good woman who was interfering with officers
(13:38):
doing their their their proper appropriate law enforcement role. A
lot of people are taking the cues from elected officials.
What do the mayor up there say, get the hell
he used a different word than hell out of my city. Ice.
They think they have the moral high ground thinking that
saying Ice are the modern day Gestapo and their jack
boot thugs, and oh my god, you know, really they're
(13:59):
only trying to get the worst of the worst out
of our country. But when you've got elected officials and
prominent political figures egging people on pivoting back over to
local iris, Rolli's on video interfering with police officers doing
their business, and according to Signal ninety nine, she was
actually at the Remember when the sheriff's deputy got ran
over the other day You just mentioned that. The day
after the hinting kid was shot, his father ran over
(14:22):
and killed a sheriff's deputy. Signal ninety nine said she
was on the scenes there telling people witnesses to it
not to cooperate with police, and ended up being put
in the back of a police car. Herself wasn't cited.
The video camera evidence from that incident's apparently locked in
a safe to be seen by us down the road,
she says, But there she is prominent local figure Iris Rowley,
(14:43):
very politically connected and very prominent in impacting election outcomes,
doing exactly what you and I believe is the wrong thing,
putting officers lives in jeopardy as well as their own lives.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
First, I agree with you and the judge in the
case should release the video definitely in light of this
discussion about a settlement. But of course we won't have
that transparency, just like we didn't have the transparency and
the beatdown that happened in the middle of the city
where the gentleman clearly was punched first, and most Americans
(15:16):
don't know that. They still are looking at the old video,
and so this city has a problem with transparency. Ie
with Signal ninety nine, was sharing with us is executive
session today. I want to share two quick points with
you before we get off. I was at my daughter's
swim meeting. I know you were a swimmer, and it
was that Princeton High School thanked them for hosting. Seaton
(15:38):
has a phenomenal team, and my hat goes out to
coach Jody Schaeffer. But I was sitting there watching the
five hundred being swimmed by all of the different girls.
The difference between first and second place was less than
a second most of the time. Oh yeah, right, very
very close. Look, did you hear Brian Thomas here listening, Hoddey,
This is a swimmer. I couldn't imagine a dude in
(16:02):
that pool swimming against my daughter. This again goes back
to the lack of accountability and common sense that's coming
from the Democratic Party. And that's why so many Democrats
are saying I didn't leave the Democratic Party. The Democratic
Party left me. I couldn't imagine a dude swimming in
that pool a seat and swim meet against any of
(16:24):
those girls as where they're cheering and they're trying to
get scholarships to go to college. It doesn't make any sense,
Brian Thomas, And this is what is wrong right now
in the Democratic Party. And I'm tying this directly to
the governor's race, where we see David Pepper now is
a running mate for Amy Acting. Look, let me share
(16:45):
it be really clear. I'm on the other side of that.
I support vivek Ramswami and I have supported him almost
from day one. That gubernatorial race is critical because it's
the check and balance to all these local municipalities around us.
If we lose the governor's office this year. We in Ohio,
(17:05):
we are in serious trouble. People. You cannot stay home
from that election like you just did in this local election.
We need every single body, every eighteen year old register
to vote, making sure your address matches the Board of Elections,
and we need everybody at the polls rocking it because
the other side, when you're watching these videos Brian Thomas,
(17:28):
of people obstructing ice officers, obstructing police officers, right, all
of these settlements that you're seeing coming out of these
liberal cities. If we don't have a check and balance
in that governor's office, shame on us. This is a
very important race. And I have been shocked by mister
Pepper and all of his tweets over the weekend trying
(17:50):
to shame veak Ramaswami for being financially successful. He's a billionaire.
I get it, I understand it. He's self made. But
David Pepper got his money from his family. He's a
trust fund baby. And I'm sitting there going would I
want to trust fund baby in the governor gubernatorio or
the Governor's office? Or do I want a self made
(18:13):
billionaire who knows how to make money, run budgets, pull
this dog on Ohio, this great state into the twenty
first century. Whether it's education, whether it's economics, whether it's jobs,
whether it's housing, you name it. We need a fresh
set of eyes on Ohio. And Brian, I am really
worried about this race, that people are getting lost in
(18:34):
the sauce. There is no way when she picked the
two of them together, to me, are like, I got
one who locked us all down, right, and I've got
the other one here who doesn't know anything about business,
that's just been handed with a silver spoof, and we
want to turn over the entire state of Ohio to them.
This makes absolutely no sense, Brian Thomas. And I'm telling you,
whether it's Leah Dinkin Locker who's running for the judgeship,
(18:59):
we always talking about the judges and we're worried about
people being let out, Well, you better vote for Leah
dinky Locker. You're worried about Winkler. Winkler's running here locally,
we better elect him. My point, Brian is the penicillin.
You know it. Elections have consequences. We'll see it today
with the Executive Session. Who will vote to say no.
(19:21):
Executive session. I'm going to shine a light on hinting
and whether we settle the case or not, I'm going
to have the courage to tell the public who will
pay the bill? Brian Thomas, We're the ones paying the bill,
not them, that they get a chance to listen to
the dialogue around whether we should give this family any
money at all. I extend my deepest condolences to this
(19:44):
young man and his family, but we do not in
this city should not be giving them any money for
a young man who had a gun and a stolen
car running from an officer and turning that weapon towards
that officer, or that officer having it to take the
unfortunate to see going to take his life. Brian Thomas,
we are moving in a world here, brother, where it
(20:04):
is complete insanity. It's not black, it's not white, it's
not Latino. Brother, it's values, and my values are saying
what is right and wrong. We've got to go back
to common sense. I love you, Brian Thomas, event will
allowing me to have a voice on your show.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
It's always a pleasure. I appreciate your common sense words
and I'll look forward to another segment on this on Monday,
and maybe even another one before then. We find out
they do an executive session or we find out what
goes on behind the scenes. In one we get some
details on that. Maybe you have a chime in during
the week on that. So however, it's like.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
At both Smithman please have follow me there, Please follow
me all right, take care.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Brother, take care of seven forty eight right now. If
you five car Seed talk station. Yeah, if you think right,
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