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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Fifty five KRC, the talk station, Dan Carolyn for Brian Thomas.
Want to thank brother Andre Ewing for being here in studio.
First time I had a chance to meet him, so
that was a great conversation and also looking forward to
speaking with our next guest. Tom Zewatowski runs the website
We the People Convention dot org and Tom, it's great
to have you on fifty five KRC this morning. How

(00:23):
are you.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Good morning, Dan, Glad to be with you, Thanks for
having me on.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Thank you for being here. You know, I told this
story last week on one of my shows on seven hundred,
and I was saying that in the news business here locally,
we used to say that every national story has a
way of touching Cincinnati, and so I see this story

(00:49):
about Jim O'Neil, Deputy Secretary and the Apartment of Human
Services came out and he talked about Abukar Osman, who
was Somalia's permanent repersent to the United States, to the
United Nations and the UN Security Council, and records show
that he has ties to Ohio and a Cincinnati company

(01:09):
that had to pay ninety thousand dollars in restitution for
medicaid fraud. So it is absolutely amazing, and I think,
you know, there are calls now by some state lawmakers
who are talking about investigating some of the daycares and
other fraudulent situations that may have appeared in and around

(01:32):
the Columbus area. So when we look at this story
about what's going on in Minnesota, I think a lot
of us need to be aware that it's not just
happening in Minnesota, but really it sort of has its
fingers and tentacles touching a lot of us right here
in Ohio.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Well, you know, people just forget how long this has
been going on. The Somali problem in Ohio. Dan, you know,
we were the Tea Party movement was screaming about this
when they first arrived, you know, fifteen years ago or
whatever it was. Because you know, what's amazing about this
story is that it's like Springfield with the Haitians, right,

(02:09):
you know, where over night these people just show up
in your community with no plan. Right. It's not like, hey,
We're going to bring ten thousand people to your town,
and here's federal money for housing and for food and
for medical and to help with interpreters at your schools.
Oh no, no, you know, Catholic charities just brings them
in because they get billions of dollars to help, you know,

(02:32):
break our immigration laws, and they just bring them in
and drop them off. Well, when they did that outside
of Columbus, the sheriff was going Bizerko because they were
having the same problem they had in Springfield. There were
car accidents because they were driving. They didn't know how
to drive our cars, they didn't know our rules, they
couldn't speak English. The schools were a disaster because they

(02:52):
were just inundated with all these children that didn't speak English,
and nobody would do anything about it. We brought it
to the attention of Chask, you know. And then and
then the wine, and look what the wine did with Springfield.
He just kind of like said, there's plenty to see here, Dan,
there's plenty to see and it ain't good.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Well, why do you think that is? Why do you
think there's at least on the part of the governor
that there's really no appetite to investigate this or get
to the bottom of it, or even try and separate
in a meaningful way what is true and what is
not true. It is it is amazing to me, Look,
fraud is fraud. Ripping off the government or ripping off

(03:34):
anyone is ripping people off. It doesn't matter where you
come from. It doesn't matter what your heritage is. If
you're an American, I don't want you to do it.
If you're an immigrant, I don't want you to do it.
If you're an illegal alien, I don't want you to
do it. But yet there's no appetite on the part
of the governor and his staff, I guess to really

(03:54):
get to the bottom of this. So now there's a
growing body of lawmakers in Columbus who want this looked into.
But as you said, I mean, you know this, this
horse has been out of the barn for a long
time already.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Well, so you know what do we as people do
you know, as citizens? Because I just think that you
know again, and you were right, as Listen says to
you earlier in the podcast show here where you know,
this whole the riots and the anti ICE stuff is
a distraction from the real issue, which is the fraud.
What's interesting is that you know, for for all of us,

(04:28):
you know, what's going on up there with Ice doesn't
really affect I don't have ICE agents knocking down the
doors of my neighbor's house. I don't have Somalis in
my town, but we all have our tax dollars there.
And in the outrage among the American people about this stuff,
I just don't think the political class really understands how

(04:49):
deep and how serious it is. We are pissed, people
are angry because this isn't just Somalis. It's just not
in you know, Minneapolis, It's here in Ohio, it's in Maine,
it's in Washington State. Boy or boy, wait till we
get into Los Angeles and New York. If you want
to see what fraud is. Our problem is what are
our senators and congressmen doing to stop it? And my

(05:14):
position is.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Not nearly enough, not nearly enough, absolutely, So I want
to continue on with this topic, and I want to
sort of pivot into how this is going to relate
to evak Ramaswami and what he's saying about these issues.
But we got to get to a quick break right now.
Tom's Awatowski stay right there. Will continue on on fifty

(05:35):
five KRC the Talk Station. This is doctor Jesse Mils,
host of the Mailroom podcast.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
KARC the Talk.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Station fifty five KRC the talk station seven on this
Tuesday morning, continuing our conversation with Tom Zawatowski. We the
People Convention dot org and uh, Tom, So we've got

(06:02):
big governor's race coming up in in the in the fall.
And I was talking to Alex Trianthefilou yesterday and he
was talking about the campaign that the Viake Ramaswami is running.
So far, so good, it looks like. But I'm also
a little bit concerned that uh that I guess the

(06:24):
message that he's got uh could get could get watered
down or overrun. And somehow I hope this doesn't happen,
that Amy Acton could jump up and surprise a lot
of people, uh come this fall. How how you're sizing
up that race so far?

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Well, you know, I I'm I'm very confident, uh, you know,
with you know what's going on as far as you
know our election here in Ohio. I think, Dan, the
biggest problem for us is to get our voters to
turn out without Trump on the ballot. I think that's
really the issue. And uh, you know, the Bank was
on last night on Jesse Waters Show addressing you know,

(07:04):
the situation Minneapolis and and boy, you know, he's just
so articulate, and he's so really just clear on his positions.
You know, people, you know, people ask me, like, you know,
we're the tea party I you represent you know, the
grassroots people here in Ohio have for sixteen years, and
they say, well, what do we want most? We want

(07:24):
to restore equal justice under the law. We want to
restore the rule of law. And but they talked about
that when he said that, you know, we're not going
to let Ohio become Minneapo Minnesota. We're going to, you know,
work with the federal government. We're going to enforce federal law,
even though you know the state doesn't enforce it. They
do work with ICE and the FBI and the DJ

(07:45):
and HHS and all those guys. And it was good
to see him say that. But it was great you
had Alex on. I love Alex you know, he's a
really good leader of the Republican Party. But if you
don't mind, I want to talk a little bit about
some skull drudgery that's going on with the Republicans in
Ohio that everyone in the state should understand. I always

(08:06):
say that the Columbus Cartel is just as bad as
the deep state in Washington. And here's a perfect example
and involved Cincinnati, and it involves the whole state. You
know that we wanted to redistrict because Ohio had the
potential to pick up three seats. We could have made
Cincinnati more competitive than the first district. We could have

(08:28):
made Akron the thirteenth district, which was lost by only
two percent two years ago, we could have won that
House seat. And then the ninth district up in Toledo,
where seventy nine year old Marci Captor has been hanging
on forever. We were going to redistrict that. So what happened, Well,
instead of redistricting to win all three seats, they ended

(08:50):
up redistricting the Toledo district to be like a plus
ten district, like you could win it with a toaster. Okay,
And they didn't help the first and they didn't help
the thirteenth. And the whole reason for that, I was
told was that Rob McCauley, our Senate President, was going
to run in Toledo, and his Senate district was up there,

(09:10):
and he expanded the district to include him. Well, then,
as you guys know, Rob McCauley ended up running with
the bike as his lieutenant governor. And so we're like, Okay,
we're really mad because President Trump needs as many House
seas as we can get and they didn't do the
resisting right. Well, what happens in the in the ninth

(09:31):
district just this week, All of a sudden, this woman
shows up. Her name is Madison she Han, she aha
n She's twenty eight years old. She's never run for
any position ever. She was working at ice with Christy
Nome for the last ten months, and all of a

(09:53):
sudden she shows up to run for Congress in the
ninth district. And you're like, wait a minute. We got
a guy named Maren who only watched by two percentage
points last time, who's leading in the polls. Why do
we need this new person? And then man, she shows
up on Laura Trump's TV show on Saturday night, Sam

(10:14):
out of nowhere, down eight year old person shows up.
And what I want your listeners to understand is this
is the problem with politics, and it's all about the
power and money. There's a political operative in Ohio named
Bob Paducciic. He used to represent Rob Portman. He got
involved with with Trump and things, and this is all

(10:37):
about him getting a payday. This is all about We're
gonna bring in this unknown person with millions of dollars
and Bob Padujac's gonna run her campaign, and you know
what he's probably gonna get. Donald Trump endorsed this person,
and the Ohio voters are not gonna have a choice
for who they want in the in the ninth district.

(10:59):
And this is what's wrong with our whole system because
money picks our candidates, not the people. And that's happening
right here in Ohio. And it's just a tragedy. We
should have we should flip three seats here and now
we're going to be lucky if we put this one
with a twenty eight year old running well.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Paducchick's a brilliant guy, so I have no doubt that
he can pull off just about whatever it is he
wants to pull off.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
But it's selfish, that's my point it.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
I mean, this kind of stuff, this is not to
my way of thinking. This is not what conservatives or
Republicans ought to be about. You know, it ought to
be about doing the right thing. And when you're running
an operation, the way you're describing to me certainly doesn't
sound like it's the right thing.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Well, so and this is what So I want to
pivot back to the bake now because you know there's
people who are saying, oh, geezo, Rob McCauley's now is
Lieutenant governor of Thevek has been captured by the Columbus Cartel. Right.
I can assure you. I can assure you guys, that
is not the case. The Veke is a change agent
as much as Donald Trump was. The cartel is scared

(12:14):
to death of them. And that's why you're seeing these
hit pieces coming out where they're trying to promote amy acting.
And this is the John Kasic people, the you know,
the Lex Wexner people, you know, they're behind this. Doug
Price guy is the one behind all these hit pieces
about the Veke, you know, pulling up things like he
you know, he's part of a h an investigation in

(12:36):
Georgia for an illegal takeover some company and stuff. It's
gonna get crazy because the cartel, your listeners write this down.
Republicans in Ohio would always rather have a Democrat win
than a Republican. They can't control. They can't control Vevek
Ramaswami because like Trump, he doesn't need them. He can self,

(13:00):
and he's gonna do things they don't want. And that's
why you're sending these efforts to undermine him. It's not
gonna work that think it's gonna be our next governor,
real good changes in Ohio.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
You can't, can't, John Kasik, Just go back to CNN
or MSNBC and and please le fuss alone in Ohio.
At least you know, at least money shows up on
one of those shows you got. You have the ability
to turn the sound down or turn it off. Tom,
stay right there. We gotta we gotta work. In a
quick break on fifty five k r CV talk stations,
are you tired of losing money in the stock mark

(13:34):
and not winning enough? From fifty five kr the talk station,
Joe Strecker rolling out a little homage to uh all
the Hoosier fans out there, So congratulations to the Hoosiers
winning the national championship.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Great game.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Last night, I watched Bits and Pieces. I was trying
to fall asleep and watch a show. But wrapping things
up here with Tom Zawatowski, we the People Convention Dot
org and and Tom, let me be as we let
you go. Let me I want to get your thought
on this that there is a growing, some growing discontent

(14:15):
amongst Republicans, including myself, that we have not have made
any progress. Okay, we passed a big, beautiful bill. Okay,
that's all fine and dandy, no tax on tips, no
tax on overtime. But as it relates to voter fraud,
as it relates to doge cuts, as it relates to
certain individual individuals being prosecuted that we thought would be

(14:38):
prosecuted for their misdeeds, none of that has happened. And
so the longer that that languishes and those things don't
don't get done, to my way of thinking, that does
not accrue to the benefit of Donald Trump and does
not accrue to the benefit of Republicans who who are
currently in power in ind.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah. Dan, there's a lot of there's a lot of concern.
I have to tell you that I spent yesterday all
day talking to leaders from around the country, around the state,
trying to keep them more positive because they're really they
don't understand why these things aren't happening. I mean, what
more do you need to invoke the Insurrection Act than

(15:24):
what's going on in Minneapolis from you know, breaking into
our ice vehicles and stealing weapons, you know, to the
emails that came out saying that the City of Minneapolis
employees were actually aiding and embedding the anti American, anti
Ice Marxists to track and hamper ICE agents. We're tired

(15:44):
of it. We want to see arrest, we want to
see this stop. We want the rule of law reestablished,
and we're not seeing it. And and you know, I
think that our patients is wearing thin. And then when
you get to the Congress, remember and Trump's first term,
the only thing they passed in four years was the

(16:05):
tax reform in twenty seventeen. Then Paul Ryan who's the
House Speaker, and mcconnoey and those guys that said it,
they sandbag Trump for the rest of his time. We
can't let that happen again. And so now they're talking
about another budget reconciliation type bill, and we're talking about
to say, back, right, Dan, I mean, wouldn't that be

(16:27):
a single important thing to get passed so that we
can stop the cheating this November? But we haven't seen anything.
And I'm asking your listeners, I'm asking people who are
you following this show, get on the phone this week,
call your center, call your House member, and say, don't
you do this again. We want action. You've got to

(16:48):
implement Trump's agenda in legislation. It can't just be executive orders.
We've lived that before. We never want to live that again.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yeah, legislation, And I mean that's the thing you go out,
this is this is the agenda, not just Trump, but
the agenda that that he was talking about, that people
voted for. And if you're not going to pass the agenda,
people are going to say, well, why why do I
should I even bother to vote for? You guys, you're
gonna sit up there and do and literally do nothing.

(17:20):
I mean it's on one hand, it's easy to say, look,
Trump accomplished a lot this first year in office. Here
in the second term, but there's no need to stop
there because you know what, if the shoe was on
the other foot, do you think the Democrats will be taking,
you know, easing up on the gas a little bit?

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Yeah? I mean again, what will they do? You know
what they're gonna do. They get there, absolutely right, Let's
get rid of the fellow buster, let's start passing this stuff,
and let's walk down the border forever. Let's you know,
get rid of you know, the illegal immigration. Let's uh,
you know, let's get this the process fixed because we

(18:02):
know they're cheating. And then how about cutting some of
the budgets because it's a bunch of it is fraud.
How about that.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Six hundred billion in fraud every single year, and it's
time to start playing some hardball on that on the
national level and here in Ohio, Tom, great talking to
you this morning. We got a run, but keep up
the great work and all the best to you, and
I'll look forward to the next time we get a
chance to talking again.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Thanks Dan, thanks for setting in our friend Brian.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
I hope it gets better, absolutely absolutely, Tom, thank you
very much for that.

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