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Speaker 1 (00:00):
He talk station seven thirty on a Tuesday. It's that
time of week. You can find him at we the
People Convention dot org. His name Tom Zawastowski does a
podcast every week. He should check that out.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Tom.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Welcome back to the Morning Show, my friend. Great to
hear from you.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Oh, it's good to be on. But wow, what a
what a half hour or forty five minutes you've had
talking about elections? Brian, Oh my goodness, I'm just soon.
I can't argue with you, brother. You're saying some things
that people need to hear about. How come there's nobody
on the bloody ballot?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
It really is mind blowing. Tom. And you know, the
sad news out of and I don't mean to talk
about Anderson Township, but that's where this individual, this former politician,
is talking about the problems mentioned. Specifically, he said everybody left,
all the conservatives have left. There's a very small percentage
of them left. He notably putting up the Tea Party.
Folks all bailed and that was a solid conservative area.
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And I don't know if he's right statistically, but you know,
if he's painfully aware of all of the conservative minded
people who have literally moved out of Hamilton County. They've
just given up, just completely given up, Brian.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
So I can speak to that, okay, because the Tea
Party came out of Hamilton County, came out of Cincinnati.
I know Chris Little did in those guys, okay. And
the thing that just one of your callers had common
sense a little bit ago. And here's the thing that
didn't pass the common sense test to me as a
Tea Party person, because the Cincinnati guys said, oh yeah,
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we can run for a county Central Committee, we can
run for state Central Committee. We can take over the
Republican Party and reform it, right, And I said, really,
is that right? Well, then all of a sudden, the
interesting things happened, like geez, when the Tea Party started
to run for county Central Committee positions. Instead of having
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those races every two years, they made them every four years.
And oh yeah, and then once we started running again,
you know, we're the Tea Party. I had no idea
there was anything called State Central Committee. Comrade. It sounds
like something out of the former Soviet Union, right, what
the heck is that? Right? And they said, well, it's
been on your ballot, and I'm like, I don't even
remember even seeing that that you could elect people to
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these party positions, and then we started to run for
these things. I have a friend right now today who's
running in Stark County for a Republican Party State Central
Committee seat. In the past, Brian, you didn't spend any
money on it. You just went out knocked on doors.
You went to the social events that the Republicans would
put on, and said, hey, here's my name, here's what
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I believe in. You know, vote for me. He's got
an opponent. Now I guess this. This is a non
paid position for Republican Central Committee. His one opponent has
spent fifty five thousand dollars to run for this. Why
would any sane person run for a position that pays
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nothing and spend fifty five thousand dollar of their money?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Good question, isn't it? Okay, that's a good question. How
about this question? All right? I don't know nobody ever
talks about this, but in Ohio, the way you become
a member of a political party is by voting in
the primary. Did you know that when you pull the
Republican ballot today, you're basically saying I want to be
a member of the Republican Party.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Not a doues paying member, I might point out.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Oh, and boy did I have that discussion, because people
will remember those of their old tea party people that
Tom Zawastowski ran to be chairman of the Uhio Republican
Party back when Matt Borgius was taking it over under Kasik.
And I said to them, yeah, you don't want to
have a real political party. These aren't political parties. These
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are country clubs. Because because when James Timpkin is the
chairman a few years ago, she can make four phone
calls and eraise five million dollars from their big donors.
Why mess with those pesky you know, two only in
Republican you know members and get them to pay twenty
dollars a year to fund our campaigns. We don't want
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to do that. That's too much light work. Okay, So
then let's keep going on the insanity. You know it's
going to cost today for us, the tax payers of Ohio,
to put on primaries for what, Brian, These are not
political entities. The Republican Party, the Democrat Party, the Liberton part,
Libertarian Party, the Green Party, whoever are private entities?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
True?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
You and I are going to spend fifty million dollars
today to put on this freaking primary. Fifty million dollars
of our state taxpayer dollars. Why are we doing that?
Guess what if we didn't do that, you think they'd
have primaries. They just have a meeting and say here's
our choices. They'll be on the ballot in November.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeout, what the hell would we care?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
What would we care? And the reason that he's on
the ballot, Brian, is because they can't pay enough to
get on the ballot. It's all hey to play.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah, money in politics. Tom Zawastowski, shocking, literally, know one.
Although I appreciate the gory details and your criticisms of
the Republican Party because you know, we like to think,
as conservative minded people that we have our house in order,
Clearly we do not, Tom's AWASKI hold on, I'm sure
you've got more on that. We're gonna talk about the
Yes it is primary, PARSD Talk Station, Miriyan, Thomas whet
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and People Convention dot org or dot com. Tom Zawastowski, Tom,
real quick, you had mentioned the Tea Party and I
used to think the Tea Party was the greatest thing.
Why because it really boiled down to my pure little
L libertarian principles fiscal responsibility, limited government, and free markets.
What's wrong with that? Whatever happened to the Tea Party? Tom,
That sounds like very solid principles. It didn't involve social engineering,
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It didn't comment on you know who you're sleeping with,
like my little little L libertarian philosophy. I trust you
with your zipper, I trust you with your wallet. Let's
keep politics out of all of that. That was a
great direction for the Republican Party to go down. You know,
you didn't alienate as many people had these solid core
principles like hey, there's a concept fiscal responsibility, less government,
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love the idea, and free markets, free markets work. Mean,
what did it get corrupted? Did the Republican Party squeeze
them out? Because it just dealt with these pure core
principles that I think is at least were embodied some
of them embodied in the Republican platform. It's just the
Republican platform was much bigger than those three points. Tom.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, well, you know we didn't get destroyed. We're still here.
I like to say that the Tea Party is the
skeletal structure of the Magabody politics that we, you know,
are still in the in the background, organizing the younger
folks who haven't gotten the experience that we've had in politics.
And you know, look, Ay Jim Jordan and those guys
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are Tea Party guys. You know a lot of the
people still fighting the way you and I would like
them to fight were from the Tea Party. But what's
happened is Donald Trump and Mega and basically it just
brought in a whole another layer of people and really
quite frankly, the money to take control of things and
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kind of drive the agenda. But let me just say
to our friends out there who think like you and I,
because the Tea Party again, why we're with the Tea
Party because we were following the footsteps of our founders,
of the Colonists and the Thirteen Colonies, who fought the
British and had to use gorilla tactics to win. I
think you've got to use those gorilla tactics today in
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this election. What do I mean by that, Well, first
of all, you talked about I talked to someone from
CINS today yesterday. I guess there's no levy on the
ballot down there in a lot of places, so there's
like no reason to vote. They're expecting like ten percent
turnout in Cincinnati. Well, that's a tactical advantage for those
of us who want to make a surprise attack, because
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if you vote, you're both gonna be worth a whole lot.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
More, right, Brian, Yes, sir, I'm glad you made that point.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
So get there there, Now, what do you want? Where
are our opportunities? Now? You know again, I'm speaking from
my knowledge of these candidates and talking to them and
analyzing them. I think you got to vote for Verbak.
I get the Casey Push thing. He's now serious, you
interviewed him. I'm sorry he's disqualified. But we have two
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things that we can do today. We can upset the
cart in Secretary of States race by voting for Marcel Sturbage.
I think a lot of the Push people will turn
out will vote for Sturbage because they have the same attitude,
okay about politics, So that can take him over the top,
and that will rock the vote of the big money people. Okay,
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who are you trying to, you know, keep the carousel going? Now?
I know Robert Sprague. I like Robert Spragg's a good guy,
but boy, his TV commercials really turned me off because
we take the elections problems seriously, and his TV commercials
were about like cartoon characters and stuff voting. It was
like a joke. It's not a joke. We need a
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serious person and that's ourselves. Service the other one, the
other one. I don't know who's behind this, but Jay
Edwards and Christina Rogner for Treasurer of state. Jay Edwards
is a Blue twenty two controlled by the Democrat unions.
And why Bernie Marino and JD. Vance are pushing him
so hard, I don't know, but I know it has
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something to do with money, because you can tell how
much advertising has. Christina Rogner is more than qualified. She's
not just another politician looking for a job because quite frankly,
she doesn't need one. Per in her family are very
well off. But guess what she's learning to be treasurer.
She went to the Wharton School of Business. She worked
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for Mackenzie and Company. She's been in the accounting field
with major energy companies. Guess what she could be in
the freaking treasurer. Jay Edwards has no qualifications except he's
politically connected. If you turn out and you vote for
Rogner and Sturbitch, and we can pull those two victories off.
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That'll be worth your efforts, my fellow patriots, that will
be upsetting the card and saying you can't just buy
my vote. So that's my attitude towards today's election.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Love it. Stay on the soapbox, Tom's Awastowski. We're gonna
hear your comments about the most recent Supreme Court the
talk station thinking about Casey Talks Station. It's Tuesday, finishing
up a half hour here with Tom's Awastowski. We the
People Convention dot Org is where you find Tom's website
and check out his podcast. Tom's Awastowski. We had a
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recent Supreme Court decision saying you cannot use race to jerrymander.
That sounds like a perfect thing because we're not supposed
to be being racist when it comes to allocating the
jurisdictions for voting. I have never understood jerrymandering. It is
obviously one of the most political processes that happens in
this country. So if you vote for a bunch of Democrats,
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they're going to read jigger the system and oh and
try to ensure that they stay in power. That's what
jerry mandering does, so you can't use race to do
that anymore. Tom.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, Supreme Court Justice gorse It's had a great line
in the decision saying, yeah, the way to stop being
racist is to stop doing racist things like this, okay,
because it was never intended that you could draw districts
to represent a specific race. That's totally against everything in
our constitution, and yet we get it for how many years, Brian?
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And so this goes back to your point, Jerry, on
the record, Brian Thomas Thoms Alastowski eight, Jerry mannering should
not exist. It should be contiguous geographic areas, right, you know,
not all these twisty twirling, politically designed things. But unfortunately
we are at war. We are at war with the communists.
(11:53):
You said it flat out. There are many Democrats anymore.
This is a communist takeover our country. And here's the
dirty little secret that you know the media is trying
to cover up. They redistrict decades ago. There is no
way that the Democrat quote Communist party should have fifty
percent of the Senators and fifty percent of the House members.
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They sold them, Brian, by by doing things like this
racial journeymanding stuff. And so when the Supreme Court said hey,
you can't do that, and they all quoted, They all
cried Jim Crow two point zero, except nobody points out, yeah,
the original Jim Crow was you. You were Jim Crow
one point zero. And this is fixing that. Now. People
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don't understand, Brian. This is huge. This is not some
normal thing. This is not something you can just say, oh,
that's nice, or don't even know about it. We needed
this badly because literally, this one decision could change the
House from the you know, Republicans having four per seat,
you know, four seat majority to having a fifty seat
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majority by year, so that we can't we get out
of this situation where oh the Democrats buy off one
or two Republicans and they stop everything we do. If
you have a fifty seat majority, you can actually maybe
legislate what a concept and so go to our website
we people can mention dot org. You'll see the article
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there about the racial Germans Jurymannering decision, and watch the
CNN video that's listened that's embedded in that article where
they break it down. Because across the South, and I
just saw this morning when I got up, the Supreme
Court approved Louisiana delaying their primary from May nineteenth in
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order to have a session to redraw their districts before
their primary comes up. They're doing this in Florida. Just
did it. Four new Republican seats, Louisiana, Mississippi, in North Carolina.
It's going to be like seven southern states are going
to do this, and when you change those seats, the
whole map is going to change, and we're going to
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get something that reflects more accurately the people's values in
this country, not things that are fictitious are propaganda. It's
a huge decision and everyone needs to understand this is
the first step to our getting our country back well.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
And obviously this was going to happen. Turn about fair
play the Democrats did in California. They had to overturn
a law on the books that allocated redistricting to it
so called independent panel. Get rid of that and put
it back in the hands of the Democrats to make
sure that they had more Democrat seats, or at least
a map that helped them to achieve more Democrat seats
in Congress. So they're doing it.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
How about just Virginia, right, how about what just happened
in Virginia right now, that's going to get overturned. I
don't think this thing where Virginia is six' five and
they're going to make a ten to. One they violated
their constitution like five different. Ways so that's going to
go back into THE gop. Side it's a big. Deal
and the other thing is we're going to wait to.
(14:58):
See BUT i think The Suprie corps is going to.
Rule Election day is Election. DAY i hope people have
no idea how many seats that would. Say in twenty twenty,
four our, members The Reading People convention members in Southern
california were begging me for. Help we're begging us to
send people out there because The left just kept keeping
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the polls open day after day for two, weeks and
these ballots would just, appear and we won like six
seats For republicans In Southern california on election. Day by
the time they were, done we had won one.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Seat, yeah, well how do we survive two hundred and
fifty years as a country until this most recent moment
in our country's, history where you had thirty plus days to,
vote we all managed to do it on one. Day
up until that, point in. Time it's amazing on horseback.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Right. Yeah walking to the polls you get people, are,
Oh i'm so inconvenience BECAUSE i got to go show
up the. Vote oh, Really now you go Get starbucks real.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Quick here going back to the whole idea of just
like takeing equally sized a grid in a, state and
rather than do it in these crazy twisted ways to
ensure that one person or one party or another gets,
elected why don't we have just equal mileage geographic. Breakdown,
like let's, say if you could use counties for, example
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just make It Hamilton. County everybody In Hamilton county is
in one. District everybody. Weren't what is the traditional argument
against that? Conceptually, oh the.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Tridial argument is that we can't control the. Elections, okay,
Listen the thing The Tea party learned from the very
beginning is that they don't want fair. Elections you pointed
out that there's nobody on the ballot In. Cincinnati i'm
looking at my ballot right. Here in seventeen of twenty
Two republican races on my, ballot seventeen are. Uncontested on
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The democratic, side there's sixteen out of twenty three why
is that they don't want fair, Elections they want rigged.
Elections both parties only want elections where they control who's
on the. Bout you can vote for anyone you want, To,
brian as long as one of the two people we
picked for.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
You Tom's austowski put an exclamation point on it. Today,
TOM i really enjoy your, enthusiasm particularly, today and we'll
find your. Website i'll encourage my listener to do. So
we The People convention dot. Org, tom you AND i
will do this again Next. Tuesday i'll look forward to
that and keep up the great, work my.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Friend All, right go, Vote, patriots go vote and win
those two. Races Thanks.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Brian great advice From Tom's. Austowski don't go away at
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