Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:01):
Your morning news, on the way to work and all day.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
In fault check in throughout the day.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Fifty five krc D Talk Station eight oh five.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Here at fifty five krc DE Talk Station, Brian Thomas. Welcoming,
and I've been looking forward to this discussion all morning.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
It is a pleasure to have on.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
William Elliott hazel Grove, the national best selling author of
ten novels fourteen narrative nonfiction titles. He was the Ernest
Hemingway Writer in residence. This is a cool thing. He
got to actually write in the attic of Ernest Hemingway's birthplace.
He's written articles for like every major news outlet, USA Today,
Smithsonian Magazine, and a whole bunch of other publications. He's
been featured on NPR, New York Times, Los Angeles Times,
(00:44):
Chicago Tribune. I could go on, but I want to
talk about his new book Dead Air the Night orson
Wells Terrified America. William hazel Grove, it is a pleasure
heavy on the fifty five KRS morning show.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Oh thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I'm familiar with this story. I've seen the movie. I've
seen the original movie, I saw the remake of it.
I've also seen the sort of documentary movie about the
chaos that ensued as a consequence of hgu Well's airing
this on air radio play War of the Worlds with
nineteen thirty eight. I guess, as you point out October thirtieth,
(01:18):
Halloween Eve, But I want you to set the stage
for my listeners for an understanding of how this was
such a widespread radio show. It was a play on
the air. They had actors doing different parts, sound effects,
all that live in studio at CBS Studio in New York.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
What was the nature of radio back then?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Because right now, of course, anybody can get any program
anywhere in the world with the Internet. But I was
wondering was this a syndicated thing that it went across
to America? I mean, was the power feed from CBS
New York City's radio studio so big like our local
station LW that it went on over multiple states? How
did this program get out?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Oh? Well, yeah, great question. Actually they had one hundred
and twenty six affiliates at the time, went across the country.
So you know, that's the first misnomer about this War
of the Worlds that people like, Oh, it's just restricted
to the East, because that's is not true. It went
right across the country and was picked up by all
these stations. And you know again I when I wrote
(02:23):
this book, I did it by newspapers. I used the
research of all these new jobs, all these small towns.
The panic just emanated out and so they were literally
running for the hills in California, Missouri, you know, all
the way down to the south, down in Mississippi. It
was just you know, it traveled across the country. As
(02:43):
you said, Radium was a new medium at this time
that you know, everybody had a station because what happened
was it's a dayton Land crisis with Hitler wanting to
invade Czechoslovakia. It just occurred two weeks before. So there
was these breaking news bulletins going off all the time,
and and Wells used that in his show. He used
(03:06):
breaking news bulletins. He made it as realistic as possible,
and he listened to it today even today. But so
I had someone son and listened to it. You think
it's actual news. Yeah, you know, you know Martians Linkedy.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Now in terms of H. Jewells at the time, I
guess he was an unknown entity, imnorities what H Dwells
and up accomplishment, but accomplishing. But at this time was
was he a newbie kind of guy that nobody never
heard of?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Oh you mean Orton? Yeah, Uh, he had some fame,
he had been he had produced these two plays. Uh,
he only had about a million listeners. But on this night,
because his show was a sustaining program, he didn't have
a sponsor, all right, sort of for it was for
(03:55):
the good of the country, right. They had this thing then,
and so the the you know, playing at the same
time Waster Charlie McCarthy Hour, Edgar Berg and Charlie McCarthy,
which had twelve million listeners. Okay, so what happens during
during the Charlie McCarthy hour They go to Nelson Edia
singer and guess what happens with What happens now everybody
(04:15):
starts surfing the dial and they end up on War
of the World in progress after the station you know, identification,
and everybody's like, oh my god, you know, and growers
and in New Jersey, our Martians have landed and you
know they're using poison gas and heat raising killing everybody,
and you know, so Well's got supercharged that night. Also
(04:38):
radios in cars had just become a thing. You know,
all these cars now had radios, and this was a
very new phenomenon, you know, driving around with a car radio.
So people in the cars for the first time, we're
hearing this, and they started just driving like maniacs. The
police didn't know what was going on. Everybody started beating,
getting accidents and going through red lights and you know,
(04:58):
not stopping for any So it was a kind of
a perfect storm, you know, on this this October thirtieth,
nineteen thirty eighth that this you know, broadcast took hold
and was like a tsunonymi of terror across the country.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Now before the terror started breaking out in the panic
in the streets and blah blah blah, it's my understanding.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Though, at some point Orson Wells was told that, dude,
you've got to let the world know that this isn't
real and that you are broadcasting a play. So he
interrupted the show to and make that announcement. Is that
part of my recollection?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Actually what happened is Wells is doing the show. A
guy named Davison Taylor, a CBS executive, starts getting all
these calls saying where do we go? The Martians are abating,
where can we do? And they realized, well, this is
out of control. He then leaves the control room and
tries to get in the studio. John Houseman, orson Wall's partner,
(05:54):
holds the door shut. I won't let him in because
they know what they're doing. Right. Then the police arrived
and they come into the control room. Well sees them
and they try to get in the studio and John
Houston doesn't let them. Why because Wells wants to get
to the eight thirty eight minute mark where who has
to take a station break? So for thirty eight minutes
(06:15):
after the initial intro, okay, there's no break. And by
the way, War of the Worlds, the first half is
where everything happens. The second half is a snooze, just
Wells walking around saying is this terrible to the earthless concenriat?
But the first half is all the fireworks. Oh wow.
Well Orson knew exactly what he was doing. You know,
(06:36):
he was he asked he you know, he's that kind
of guy who would ask you to look through his
telescope and say do you see these stars and then
thump you on the head and safety as see him now,
and he's that kind of you know.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Now, did he okay?
Speaker 3 (06:50):
And so that's kind of the predicate. So he obviously
was obstruction, and obstruction is in stopping it while it
was going on real time.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
I get that part. But did he know? Do you
think he knows?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Or is there any reports that he knew in advance
that it was going to cause this type of reaction.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I don't think he thought the explosion would be as
big as it did. But Wells was determined. He had
studied the Hindenburg recording of when Hennemburg crash. W L
Chicago had on the spot reporter who freaked out, and
so well studied that, and so in his the guy
(07:29):
named Carl Reddick is on the spot reporter with the Martians.
The Martians come out of their cylinder and they zap
him and kill him on the air. And my book's
called dead Air. And the reason for all that is
because then Wells in the studio holds up his arms
for everybody, everybody, musicians, the actors, everybody to not say
a word. And as you know, dead air on the
(07:53):
radio is just taboo. Well, for six seconds he holds
that silence. After this reporter dies on the air, people
freaked out. They thought, oh my god, we just heard
this guy get exact.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
And he died, oh right, it'd be like right in
the middle, like you mentioned the Heinburg all the humanity,
the humanity, and then gone exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
He made he made radio part of the play. He
took he wrote the third wall. We're used to that now,
you know. You see passa cards all of a sudden
out in space, so turn and talk to the camera.
That's what I was did with this. Suddenly radio was
part of the drama.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Well, in terms of the reaction, okay, we know this
set up. Now, we know he knew at some point
that people were going crazy thinking this was true. I
note that the military actually also got involved. We had
actual our armed forces reacted on some level to this,
believing it to be true as well.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Absolutely. What happened was they had to put out a
release telling the armed forces, this isn't this isn't real,
this doesn't happen. And because people kept saying I heard
the president says, well, Orson had this actor imitate the
Interior secretary, the Interior and he said, you know what,
(09:09):
you know what to do this guy did a dead
on an Fdr. Franken Dollan and Roosevelt with all the
speech tags and you listen to this now and you're like, oh,
that's Roosevelt. So people are like, I've heard the President
say this. The Martians have incinerated our army since you know,
it was time compression suddenly where you know, eight thousand
men got killed. And then we're with a bomber pilot
(09:30):
who's died by me in on the Martians. I mean
it's almost a minute. So when people panic, they lost
their sense of time because later people said, well, how
can abody believe that all that could happen? But you know,
people weren't thinking, and Welles was brilliant because here's the
thing you want to know. This is a broadcast, and
a broadcast it starts with dinner music at a hotel
in New York. Then they cut from that to we've
(09:54):
got breaking news, something's crashed at Grovers on New Jersey,
and then back to the dinner music, then back to
the you know, New Jersey, We've got breaking news. The
Martians are out in the shooting people or the heat rate.
So people once you bought into the music, you thought, okay,
this is real, and then okay, this is real. So
you know, you were in the tunnel and then it
(10:16):
was off to the races.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Oh my word, and it's and you know, my my brain,
I logical, reasonable brain. Then again, I'm surrounded by like
nine thousand different news resources. I never believe anything when
I first read it. I want to go out in
the world and look around to see if there's any
credibility associated with whatever random person says something. But you
mentioned the it's just the infancy of radio. Even car
(10:39):
radios are new. What about the idea of just changing
the station to see if anybody else is reporting about
the world coming to an end and if you don't
hear it elsewhere, doesn't that sort of reduce the credibility
of what's going on in CBS at that moment?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Well, you know this happens. People started serving back. But
if you've ever been in a truly panic situation, you
start doing strange things. Little things become very hard to do,
like put in the key in your car and start
in your car. Well, people didn't. They started to surf
the down. Radio reception was iffy, especially in cars. Right,
So there's a general with his wife in the Redwood
Forest in California. They hear the broadcasts, They try and
(11:16):
get an ounsation, They can't pick anything up. Oh my god,
the Martians have knocked everybody out there. They run out
of gas in the woods. They sit there and wait
to get incinerated by the Martians. I mean, so this
happened people, because I just got named Cantrell, who did
a big report on this too, you know, immediately after
it happened. He was a Yale professor and he interviewed
all these people, and that was one of the questions.
(11:37):
Well then you go on the down and said, yeah,
we did, but we you know, we couldn't find anything
else going on, or you know, some people said they
did find other people reporting on also too. Terror was
spread by the phone. People got on the phone said,
you know, Aunt Martha, you know, the world's ending. The
Martians have come. And then so they said the what's
(11:58):
sports in Manhattan, which are half block long, just lit up,
just totally lit up. So it was being disseminated to
other people who never heard the broadcast. So it takes
on that, you know, yeah, yeah, and everybody starts running,
people running the theater saying, it's the end of the world.
They're running the churches stands the end of the world.
People are confessing to affairs to their lives. And you know,
(12:21):
I got something to tell you. You know the broadcast.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Oh my god, how you laugh about it now? But
I can only imagine the panic and the terror. Well,
was there any actual death? It seemed to recall the
movie about the Panic. There was a scene where there
was a father who was getting ready to shoot his
children before the Martians were able to get them, sort
of like to you know, stop the tragedy with a tragedy.
(12:47):
Did anybody actually die as a consequence of this broadcast?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Okay? It was a very famous story of a man
coming him and his wife is sitting at the kitchen
table with a vial of arsenic. You know, who's going
to kill herself? And what are you doing? She said,
I'd rather go this way than by the Martians. But
as far as I answered that, two years after this,
Arsenal els is on a barn tour. He goes into
hotel cancus of another gentleman. A man attacks him a viciously.
(13:14):
They pulled him off, and the man's screen time said
I flow. I'd kill you if I ever saw you.
They do an investigation and find out his wife did
commit suicide on the night of the broadcast.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Wow, well, I'll tell you what, William Hazel Grow. It
has been a real pleasure talking with you about this
amazing story here on the fifty five CARC Morning Show.
Your book is linked on my blog page. My listener's
going to go at fifty five cars dot com to
get a copy of Dead Air The Night that orson
Wells Terrified America. William, great job man. I just liked
the thrilling conversation. And thanks for writing the book. It's
(13:44):
going to be a real treat to read.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Oh great, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
My pleasure man, My pleasure eight nineteen fifty five. Caresee
the talk station power of media? I guess it still
exists in some degree. Don't go away, coming up by
heart mediaviation expert Jay rad Life about him in the hour,
will be right back
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Fifty five k r C A U line
Your morning news, on the way to work and all day.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
In fault check in throughout the day.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Fifty five krc D Talk Station eight oh five.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Here at fifty five krc DE Talk Station, Brian Thomas. Welcoming,
and I've been looking forward to this discussion all morning.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
It is a pleasure to have on.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
William Elliott hazel Grove, the national best selling author of
ten novels fourteen narrative nonfiction titles. He was the Ernest
Hemingway Writer in residence. This is a cool thing. He
got to actually write in the attic of Ernest Hemingway's birthplace.
He's written articles for like every major news outlet, USA Today,
Smithsonian Magazine, and a whole bunch of other publications. He's
been featured on NPR, New York Times, Los Angeles Times,
(00:44):
Chicago Tribune. I could go on, but I want to
talk about his new book Dead Air the Night orson
Wells Terrified America. William hazel Grove, it is a pleasure
heavy on the fifty five KRS morning show.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Oh thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I'm familiar with this story. I've seen the movie. I've
seen the original movie, I saw the remake of it.
I've also seen the sort of documentary movie about the
chaos that ensued as a consequence of hgu Well's airing
this on air radio play War of the Worlds with
nineteen thirty eight. I guess, as you point out October thirtieth,
(01:18):
Halloween Eve, But I want you to set the stage
for my listeners for an understanding of how this was
such a widespread radio show. It was a play on
the air. They had actors doing different parts, sound effects,
all that live in studio at CBS Studio in New York.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
What was the nature of radio back then?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Because right now, of course, anybody can get any program
anywhere in the world with the Internet. But I was
wondering was this a syndicated thing that it went across
to America? I mean, was the power feed from CBS
New York City's radio studio so big like our local
station LW that it went on over multiple states? How
did this program get out?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Oh? Well, yeah, great question. Actually they had one hundred
and twenty six affiliates at the time, went across the country.
So you know, that's the first misnomer about this War
of the Worlds that people like, Oh, it's just restricted
to the East, because that's is not true. It went
right across the country and was picked up by all
these stations. And you know again I when I wrote
(02:23):
this book, I did it by newspapers. I used the
research of all these new jobs, all these small towns.
The panic just emanated out and so they were literally
running for the hills in California, Missouri, you know, all
the way down to the south, down in Mississippi. It
was just you know, it traveled across the country. As
(02:43):
you said, Radium was a new medium at this time
that you know, everybody had a station because what happened
was it's a dayton Land crisis with Hitler wanting to
invade Czechoslovakia. It just occurred two weeks before. So there
was these breaking news bulletins going off all the time,
and and Wells used that in his show. He used
(03:06):
breaking news bulletins. He made it as realistic as possible,
and he listened to it today even today. But so
I had someone son and listened to it. You think
it's actual news. Yeah, you know, you know Martians Linkedy.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Now in terms of H. Jewells at the time, I
guess he was an unknown entity, imnorities what H Dwells
and up accomplishment, but accomplishing. But at this time was
was he a newbie kind of guy that nobody never
heard of?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Oh you mean Orton? Yeah, Uh, he had some fame,
he had been he had produced these two plays. Uh,
he only had about a million listeners. But on this night,
because his show was a sustaining program, he didn't have
a sponsor, all right, sort of for it was for
(03:55):
the good of the country, right. They had this thing then,
and so the the you know, playing at the same
time Waster Charlie McCarthy Hour, Edgar Berg and Charlie McCarthy,
which had twelve million listeners. Okay, so what happens during
during the Charlie McCarthy hour They go to Nelson Edia
singer and guess what happens with What happens now everybody
(04:15):
starts surfing the dial and they end up on War
of the World in progress after the station you know, identification,
and everybody's like, oh my god, you know, and growers
and in New Jersey, our Martians have landed and you
know they're using poison gas and heat raising killing everybody,
and you know, so Well's got supercharged that night. Also
(04:38):
radios in cars had just become a thing. You know,
all these cars now had radios, and this was a
very new phenomenon, you know, driving around with a car radio.
So people in the cars for the first time, we're
hearing this, and they started just driving like maniacs. The
police didn't know what was going on. Everybody started beating,
getting accidents and going through red lights and you know,
(04:58):
not stopping for any So it was a kind of
a perfect storm, you know, on this this October thirtieth,
nineteen thirty eighth that this you know, broadcast took hold
and was like a tsunonymi of terror across the country.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Now before the terror started breaking out in the panic
in the streets and blah blah blah, it's my understanding.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Though, at some point Orson Wells was told that, dude,
you've got to let the world know that this isn't
real and that you are broadcasting a play. So he
interrupted the show to and make that announcement. Is that
part of my recollection?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Actually what happened is Wells is doing the show. A
guy named Davison Taylor, a CBS executive, starts getting all
these calls saying where do we go? The Martians are abating,
where can we do? And they realized, well, this is
out of control. He then leaves the control room and
tries to get in the studio. John Houseman, orson Wall's partner,
(05:54):
holds the door shut. I won't let him in because
they know what they're doing. Right. Then the police arrived
and they come into the control room. Well sees them
and they try to get in the studio and John
Houston doesn't let them. Why because Wells wants to get
to the eight thirty eight minute mark where who has
to take a station break? So for thirty eight minutes
(06:15):
after the initial intro, okay, there's no break. And by
the way, War of the Worlds, the first half is
where everything happens. The second half is a snooze, just
Wells walking around saying is this terrible to the earthless concenriat?
But the first half is all the fireworks. Oh wow.
Well Orson knew exactly what he was doing. You know,
(06:36):
he was he asked he you know, he's that kind
of guy who would ask you to look through his
telescope and say do you see these stars and then
thump you on the head and safety as see him now,
and he's that kind of you know.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Now, did he okay?
Speaker 3 (06:50):
And so that's kind of the predicate. So he obviously
was obstruction, and obstruction is in stopping it while it
was going on real time.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
I get that part. But did he know? Do you
think he knows?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Or is there any reports that he knew in advance
that it was going to cause this type of reaction.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I don't think he thought the explosion would be as
big as it did. But Wells was determined. He had
studied the Hindenburg recording of when Hennemburg crash. W L
Chicago had on the spot reporter who freaked out, and
so well studied that, and so in his the guy
(07:29):
named Carl Reddick is on the spot reporter with the Martians.
The Martians come out of their cylinder and they zap
him and kill him on the air. And my book's
called dead Air. And the reason for all that is
because then Wells in the studio holds up his arms
for everybody, everybody, musicians, the actors, everybody to not say
a word. And as you know, dead air on the
(07:53):
radio is just taboo. Well, for six seconds he holds
that silence. After this reporter dies on the air, people
freaked out. They thought, oh my god, we just heard
this guy get exact.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
And he died, oh right, it'd be like right in
the middle, like you mentioned the Heinburg all the humanity,
the humanity, and then gone exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
He made he made radio part of the play. He
took he wrote the third wall. We're used to that now,
you know. You see passa cards all of a sudden
out in space, so turn and talk to the camera.
That's what I was did with this. Suddenly radio was
part of the drama.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Well, in terms of the reaction, okay, we know this
set up. Now, we know he knew at some point
that people were going crazy thinking this was true. I
note that the military actually also got involved. We had
actual our armed forces reacted on some level to this,
believing it to be true as well.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Absolutely. What happened was they had to put out a
release telling the armed forces, this isn't this isn't real,
this doesn't happen. And because people kept saying I heard
the president says, well, Orson had this actor imitate the
Interior secretary, the Interior and he said, you know what,
(09:09):
you know what to do this guy did a dead
on an Fdr. Franken Dollan and Roosevelt with all the
speech tags and you listen to this now and you're like, oh,
that's Roosevelt. So people are like, I've heard the President
say this. The Martians have incinerated our army since you know,
it was time compression suddenly where you know, eight thousand
men got killed. And then we're with a bomber pilot
(09:30):
who's died by me in on the Martians. I mean
it's almost a minute. So when people panic, they lost
their sense of time because later people said, well, how
can abody believe that all that could happen? But you know,
people weren't thinking, and Welles was brilliant because here's the
thing you want to know. This is a broadcast, and
a broadcast it starts with dinner music at a hotel
in New York. Then they cut from that to we've
(09:54):
got breaking news, something's crashed at Grovers on New Jersey,
and then back to the dinner music, then back to
the you know, New Jersey, We've got breaking news. The
Martians are out in the shooting people or the heat rate.
So people once you bought into the music, you thought, okay,
this is real, and then okay, this is real. So
you know, you were in the tunnel and then it
(10:16):
was off to the races.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Oh my word, and it's and you know, my my brain,
I logical, reasonable brain. Then again, I'm surrounded by like
nine thousand different news resources. I never believe anything when
I first read it. I want to go out in
the world and look around to see if there's any
credibility associated with whatever random person says something. But you
mentioned the it's just the infancy of radio. Even car
(10:39):
radios are new. What about the idea of just changing
the station to see if anybody else is reporting about
the world coming to an end and if you don't
hear it elsewhere, doesn't that sort of reduce the credibility
of what's going on in CBS at that moment?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Well, you know this happens. People started serving back. But
if you've ever been in a truly panic situation, you
start doing strange things. Little things become very hard to do,
like put in the key in your car and start
in your car. Well, people didn't. They started to surf
the down. Radio reception was iffy, especially in cars. Right,
So there's a general with his wife in the Redwood
Forest in California. They hear the broadcasts, They try and
(11:16):
get an ounsation, They can't pick anything up. Oh my god,
the Martians have knocked everybody out there. They run out
of gas in the woods. They sit there and wait
to get incinerated by the Martians. I mean, so this
happened people, because I just got named Cantrell, who did
a big report on this too, you know, immediately after
it happened. He was a Yale professor and he interviewed
all these people, and that was one of the questions.
(11:37):
Well then you go on the down and said, yeah,
we did, but we you know, we couldn't find anything
else going on, or you know, some people said they
did find other people reporting on also too. Terror was
spread by the phone. People got on the phone said,
you know, Aunt Martha, you know, the world's ending. The
Martians have come. And then so they said the what's
(11:58):
sports in Manhattan, which are half block long, just lit up,
just totally lit up. So it was being disseminated to
other people who never heard the broadcast. So it takes
on that, you know, yeah, yeah, and everybody starts running,
people running the theater saying, it's the end of the world.
They're running the churches stands the end of the world.
People are confessing to affairs to their lives. And you know,
(12:21):
I got something to tell you. You know the broadcast.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Oh my god, how you laugh about it now? But
I can only imagine the panic and the terror. Well,
was there any actual death? It seemed to recall the
movie about the Panic. There was a scene where there
was a father who was getting ready to shoot his
children before the Martians were able to get them, sort
of like to you know, stop the tragedy with a tragedy.
(12:47):
Did anybody actually die as a consequence of this broadcast?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Okay? It was a very famous story of a man
coming him and his wife is sitting at the kitchen
table with a vial of arsenic. You know, who's going
to kill herself? And what are you doing? She said,
I'd rather go this way than by the Martians. But
as far as I answered that, two years after this,
Arsenal els is on a barn tour. He goes into
hotel cancus of another gentleman. A man attacks him a viciously.
(13:14):
They pulled him off, and the man's screen time said
I flow. I'd kill you if I ever saw you.
They do an investigation and find out his wife did
commit suicide on the night of the broadcast.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Wow, well, I'll tell you what, William Hazel Grow. It
has been a real pleasure talking with you about this
amazing story here on the fifty five CARC Morning Show.
Your book is linked on my blog page. My listener's
going to go at fifty five cars dot com to
get a copy of Dead Air The Night that orson
Wells Terrified America. William, great job man. I just liked
the thrilling conversation. And thanks for writing the book. It's
(13:44):
going to be a real treat to read.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Oh great, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
My pleasure man, My pleasure eight nineteen fifty five. Caresee
the talk station power of media? I guess it still
exists in some degree. Don't go away, coming up by
heart mediaviation expert Jay rad Life about him in the hour,
will be right back
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Fifty five k r C A U line
Brian Thomas News
Popular Podcasts
24/7 News: The Latest
Today’s Latest News In 4 Minutes. Updated Hourly.
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.