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January 25, 2026 42 mins

In this episode of the Car Show, Dane Donovan takes your calls and tackles a range of car-related topics. He shares a personal story about purchasing an extended factory warranty for his new vehicle and warns listeners about the pitfalls of aftermarket warranties. Dane also discusses the importance of buying quality parts when doing car repairs yourself, using the example of a caller's issue with an oil filter leak. Additionally, he offers advice on how to inspect and maintain a used car, specifically the Crown Vic, and answers questions from listeners about car maintenance and repair.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
A phrase, You've got Mercury.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Ma Chevy to the limit.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
That as good afternoon, and welcome to the car show.
I am Dane Donovan taking all of your car questions.
The number to call five one three seven number again,
five one three seven four nine fifty five hundred. Last
week was a short show due to basketball, but I

(00:33):
am here for a full hour and would love to
hear your car questions. So again, that's what I'm here for.
Love to hear from me again the number to call
five one three seven four nine fifty five hundred. I
hope everybody is enjoying this wonderful weather we're having right
It's like almost forty degrees. Never thought I'd say it,
but forty degrees. I'm you know, my kids are walking

(00:54):
out of the house without a h without a jacket
on because they're so warm and uh so, Like I said,
last week, we were in Florida right after Christmas and
it was seventy and sunny, and then we came back
to the Snowmageddon and man, it has it been bitterly cold,
and I mean it down to the point where it's
just like, man, it hurts to walk outside. But you

(01:17):
know what, we have to keep chucking on. We have
to keep our cars rocking and rolling and ready to
go and make sure that it's ready for this weather.
And you know I led up to this back in
November and December. Right, it is something that we have
to make sure that our cars are ready and prepared
for whatever Mother Nature brings us. Right now, I know
that in years in the past, right, we've we've had

(01:38):
some pretty milds, pretty mild winters, and we haven't it's
not been too bad. But I'll tell you what, man,
we are busy, busy, uh, because there's a lot of
things that break when it gets this cold. A lot
of door lock actuators, batteries, starters, alternators, wiper blades, door handles,
I mean, you name it. When it gets this cold,

(02:03):
you know, you know, a lot of things break. And
we have been very blessed, but very busy at Donovan
Tire and again you can go to Donovantyre dot com
and find your nearest location. We have three. We've got
one we have one in blue Ash one plus Ridge
in our newest location and just outside of Norwood. It's

(02:24):
it's technically Evanston, but I mean when I say outside
of Nord. I'm talking a set of train tracks. Set
of train tracks sets us apart from Norwood to Evanston.
So but it's at the corner of Data and Montgomery,
right there by Xavier University. So if you know where
Xavier is, we are close by. So again I'm taking
your phone calls and we'll call five one, three, seven,

(02:46):
nine fifty five hundred. Again, I hope everybody's having a
great twenty twenty five. It's been a very cold and
bitter twenty twenty five. But for the most part, uh
for the Donovans and the Donovan family, you know, we're
all doing well. So but I do want to talk
about and again it looks like the phones are lighting up.

(03:06):
I really do appreciate. I'm gonna get to all of
our callers today. So if you're listening you want me
to get to you, please call now, simply because a
lot of times at the kind of towards the end
of the show, I'm short somebody. I have to cut
somebody off and have them come back, call back the
next day. I'm sorry, the next week. But if you've

(03:26):
got a question, please call Love to talk to you,
love to try to help you with your car problems,
car questions or whatever. But what I want to talk about.
And I've talked about this before on the show. And
a great customer came in yesterday. She bought a brand
new Ford Bronco. Right, and she came in and she goes, dang,
I just bought this car. I said, man, looks great.

(03:47):
And she goes, hands me this pamphlet and says, hey,
they want me to buy this warranty for the car,
and what are your thoughts? So I looked at it
and I'm like, Okay, this is an aftermarket warranty. Okay,
most of you who listen regularly, I am completely against
these things. And I felt that I needed to talk

(04:09):
about it again and reiterate to people. Okay. I recently
had the opportunity to buy a new vehicle myself, first
one and I'm forty years old, first one I've ever
purchased forty years of my life. First new car I
ever purchased a It's a Ford. And again, very blessed
and grateful that I got that opportunity. And when I

(04:33):
was purchasing purchasing it, I asked if there was any
type of extended factory warranty. Now this is important. Extended
factory warranty. Listen to me here, it's very important if
you're purchasing a new vehicle and you do want to
have added protection because these cars again say, I mean
most of your cars are you know, if you buy

(04:54):
an suv or a truck or whatnot. I mean these
things are starting fifty sixty, seventy eighty thousand, you know,
I mean some of them are one hundred thous Right,
you want to make sure that you protect when I
say investment, I understand it's a depreciating asset, but you
want to protect it. Right. You want to make sure
that if all these vehicles nowadays have all these electronics,
they've got all this technology, and that's great and a

(05:14):
lot of it saves lives, but it comes at a
cost of a cost that if it fails or breaks,
it's going to cost you a lot of money. Right, So,
if you're in the market to buy a new vehicle, okay,
a new vehicle, ask your salesperson if there is an
extended factory warranty. Okay, I asked my salesman, I said, hey,

(05:35):
do you have an extended factor warranty? And guess what
they do? So when I purchased my Ford. It was
a you know, the standard across the board for all
makes and models is, except for Hyundai Kia, three years
thirty six thousand miles. Okay, three years thirty six thousand miles.
Now that's great, but you know, we tend to keep

(05:58):
our cars longer, and this stuff gets more and more
expensive as you know, as it goes on. So I
purchased my extended factory warranty to a seven year, one
hundred thousand mile warranty. Now, yes, did it cost me
an additional amount of money, yes, okay, but it is
an extended factory warranty. Okay again, let me I want

(06:21):
to beat this in your head. Factory warranty. Okay. This
young lady came in, she goes, dang, they want me
to buy this warranty and it's thirty five hundred dollars
and what are your thoughts? And I looked at it.
I said, you don't want that. Okay, that's an aftermarket warranty.
And she's like, well, you know it's going to cover
this this it's it's I'm covered at I think it

(06:43):
was ten years, one hundred and fifty thousand miles and
and you know it. You know, it's thirty five hundred bucks.
And I said listen, and she agreed with me, and
she was she was like, hey, I'm here to listen
to what you have to say. And you know, these
after market warranties are garbage. Okay, they are a waste

(07:03):
of your money. Please. You know they want to sell
it to you. And yes, you know it seems like
it's it's just just this great thing and you're gonna
be covered. Okay, I can tell you first handedly that
what I see that they what these warranty companies do
to people is uh in my opinion of crime. Okay,

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First of all, they do not cover any type of diagnostic.
They do not cover shop supply fees. They do not
cover any type of uh you know diet. Well, I
said diagnostic, but they do not cover diagnostic. They don't
cover Yeah, you know, they'll only cover certain amounts, so

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dependent upon the warranty company.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
Right.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
So, uh, if you go to a shop that they're
their labor rates one hundred and twenty five dollars an hour, well,
your your aftermark warrants company goes, oh, we'll only pay
seventy five, right, and so you end up. Really, you
end up paying for these repairs. Anyways. You might get
a little bit off of it, but you don't. They don't,

(08:11):
you know, they want to present this as like this
is just this great thing and you're gonna be covered.
You're not. And I've seen it time and time again
that you know, these people buy these these aftermarket warranties
and they really don't cover anything. And I used to
say that it was kind of like catastrophic, right. It
was like, oh, you know, if your engine fails, right,
but I have a great customer, great customer Honda Pilot

(08:34):
purchases it, pays I think five thousand dollars for this
after market warranty and purchases it, and lo and behold
it's a Honda great product. Engine fails. Okay, Now, if
you open up this little pamphlet that's covered, engine is covered,
it says that, right. So I call the warranty company
and they say, well, yeah, the engine's covered, but we're

(08:57):
gonna send our technician out to look at the vehicle,
all right. So now we're waiting three or four days
before they send their technician out basically to verify that
what I, you know, said it needed that's what their
technician said. So now they don't give you any type
of loaner car or anthing like that. So now you're
waiting three or four days. Now what they tell me
is okay, yep, engines locked up, but we need you

(09:21):
to tear that engine apart and find out exactly what
caused the failure inside the engine. Okay. Oh and by
the way, we're not going to cover you to tear
that engine down and find out exactly what's going to
cause the engine. You know, we're not gonna cover that.
The customer needs to pay for that. So now the
customer's on the hook for about you know, two three

(09:43):
thousand dollars for me to take that engine out, tear
it apart, and find exactly what part in that engine failed. Okay. Now,
I explained to the warranting com I said, well, what
if I tear it all apart, I can't find exactly
what part failed, Like, well, then we will cover anything.
And to me, that was completely dishonest and I'm like, so,

(10:05):
I'm like, you want the customer to pay three thousand
dollars for me to tear that engine out, tear it apart,
find what failed, and if I can't find anything that
failed in the customer not only has to pay three thousand,
but then he has to pay another ten thousand for
an engine. Yes, and that was the last straw for
me that led me to was like, just never again

(10:26):
am I gonna ever recommend an aftermarket warranty company, because
this gentleman in the literature says that the engine was covered.
And what they did to this gentleman again, to me,
was was criminal. So I wanted to again reiterate, if
you're buying a new car, please ask if they have
an extended factory warranty. If not, do not buy any

(10:50):
type of aftermarket warranty. Okay, it's a waste of your money.
Take that If it's thirty five this young lady that
was at the shop yesterday, it's thirty five hundred, take
that money. Put in stock market, right, You're gonna earn
hopefully five to eight percent on it. And and if
something does happen in one hundred thousand miles, that money's
grown and you're gonna you know, so, please don't buy

(11:11):
an after market warranty. If anybody out there listen, has
have I seen in the past that somebody does have
one and it's covered some of their cost. Yes, okay,
you see them on the commer, on the on the
TV all the time. I'm bombarded with him. I see
him all the time, you know, on social media, on
TV or whatnot. And you know, my blood pressure starts

(11:35):
to raise because from my perspective, what I've seen, what
they do to people is criminal, and I just I
just don't recommend them. So if you're going again, if
you're buying one, please don't buy an after market warnty.
Just take the money and put it in the stock
market and or invested in something, and you know you're
better off. Okay, So all right, Uh, the number to

(11:58):
call five on three seventy five. That number one, five, one,
three seven, four nine, fifty five, one hundred coming up.
We have we have, we have Paul Rich, Greg and Joel.
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Speaker 3 (12:56):
Welcome back, taking your car question the number to call
five one, three seven. The phones are lighting up, so
I really do appreciate it. I want to get to
everybody's phone calls. Uh I again, I am Dane Donovan,
Donovan's Auto entire Center. So let's go to the phones.
We have Paul, Hey, Paul walking to the car show.
How can I help Hey?

Speaker 4 (13:15):
Day?

Speaker 5 (13:15):
Well, I talked to you a month or so ago.
I was trying to disassemble an engine and the pistons
were stuck.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
M I remember that.

Speaker 5 (13:24):
Yeah, I managed to get the other two out, so
for the other three whatever, So I'm just following up.
I got to wound up having to go forty over
on the on the cylinders to clean them up. Uh huh,
maybe maybe more more involved in it. And it is

(13:46):
practical at this time, I mean for a pounds, so
I'm forty over on those. Got had to take ten
off the journals and clean them up. I got to
set of pistons and bearings and everything to put it
back together without the junk yard this morning picking up
cam shafts to the couple of the lobes were kind

(14:09):
of spaulled on on the ones that were in the engine.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Mm hmm. So where where did you get the pistons
at did you buy new pistons?

Speaker 5 (14:18):
Yeah, new pistons, okay, all.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Right, so you got new pistons, but you said you're
putting bearings okay, and you got all that new yeah okay.
But the cams you said you you got used cams.

Speaker 5 (14:31):
Yeah, the ones that were like I said, the ones
that were in it had each had one loabes that
was starting to spall, which they had a which they
had a problem in the early years of the element
engines like that. So I use the same cams and
some of the cord engines. So I found found in
the cord with a nice looking said okay.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
What about uh what about the timing chain and guides
are you are you.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
Put I'm gonna put I'm gonna put news.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
In Okay, all right. I was gonna say, if you're
if you're going in there doing what I call like
it's kind of like open heart surgery on a on
an engine like that. You want to make sure you
put new guys, new tensioner, uh, new chain.

Speaker 6 (15:10):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
You want to make sure that you don't have to
go back in there again.

Speaker 5 (15:14):
Yeah. Yeah, And debating with I'll by try and check
the curtances on the oil pump. And I don't know
whether I want to go to the extent of putting
a new pump in it, but yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
I mean I I I've never seen a I've never
seen a Honda pump oil pump fail, So I think
you'd be all right there. But I would definitely make
sure you do the if you're gonna go to the
length of what you're doing, make sure you do uh,
I would do. And also to save yourself some money,
to make sure you get like a timing chain kit, right,

(15:47):
so it has everything in it, because if you buy
everything individually, it's gonna be pretty costly. And since you're
doing since you're you know, doing it yourself. Just buy
a kit uh and uh and just replace it all
that way, You're you're good and golden. All right, all right, Paul, Well,
thank you for the call. You have a great weekend.

(16:08):
Call me up with the follow up. I want I
want to hear this thing running, all right, Okay, all right,
well you take care of have a great day. All right,
let's go back to the phones. We've got Rich. Hey, Rich,
welcome to the car show. How can I help?

Speaker 7 (16:22):
Hey? Thanks, I'm looking for a hused car, and I
want to get something that's both reliable and durable. And
I'm not afraid of older cars the fact I prefer them.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yeah, I would agree with you on that.

Speaker 7 (16:37):
What's your opinion on the Panther platform for cars? You
said the Pound, Vic, Crown, Vix and Grand Marquis.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
And oh man, if you can get one and find one,
I'd buy it all day long. I think in my
opinion that was probably my opinion that was probably the
best car for what ever made. Yeah, I mean those things,
I've never I've never ever seen anybody kill one of

(17:09):
those things. Never.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah, I mean you can't.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
They're like they're like they are their tanks. I mean,
they are almost indestructible.

Speaker 7 (17:18):
I've seen a lot of good, good things on them.
What about you know one thing I'm looking at. Of course,
they're going to be older because they stopped making them
what fourteen years ago? And and I know I sometimes
have a problem with cars that are older, not necessarily

(17:39):
high mileage, but because I know time is an enemy
of parts as much or not as much. But you know,
in addition to where how old is too old?

Speaker 4 (17:57):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (17:57):
You know what that's a great question. And you know here,
I'm not worried about age. What I'm worried about is
where it's been most of its life. So if you're
buying a I mean, if you could find a two
thousand and eight Crown Vic that was spent its entire
life up in New York, I'd be like, run, I
don't care if it has five thousand miles on it,

(18:18):
if it's been sitting outside in New York, been driving,
get away from it. Run. You got a Crownvic that
it's an O eight Crown VIC that has one hundred
and fifty thousand miles and it's been down south, you know, Texas, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana,
something like that. I'd be more inclined to buy a
car that's down there. So really it's it's conditions that

(18:42):
I'm not worried about age. I'm not worried about mileage.
It's the conditions of the vehicle and where it's spent
most of its life. Right, So you know, if you've
got a car that's been sitting outside its entire life,
I wouldn't recommend probably buying it, And if you do,
you make sure that you get it in before you
buy it, because I've just seen so a lot of

(19:05):
cars and this happens all the time. I can get
a car and look at it, do a used car
inspection on it, get it and it's just covered in rust,
and it's like, man, on the outside, looked great, Right,
you get up in the air, it's a whole another story.
And I'm like, I guarantee this car came from come
up from up north. So what they do is like
all those cars up in New York, Pennsylvania, you know,

(19:25):
all those cars up north, they ship them down here
and they're just a rusted bucket, just a mess. So again,
I'm not necessarily worried about age. I mean I would
probably say anything two thousand and up, you'll be all right, okay.

Speaker 7 (19:43):
And one of the things that I see a lot
on especially the Crown well with the Crown Vics as
opposed to the Grand Marquis, is that the police in versions.
I don't know. That kind of scares me a little
bit because they said in the idol so much. Yeah,
is that a concern or not?

Speaker 3 (20:02):
No, No, I mean it's a little bit of a concern.
I mean if you buy you know, if you buy
an old uh, you know police cruiser that yeah, yes,
it does have a lot of idle hours. And what
you see because I mean even like like up in
uh you know, a lot of cab drivers years ago
had those things right, and you'd see them like smoke
and burn a little bit of oil because of the rings.

(20:24):
But man, I tell you what, I've never ever seen
one fail. If you can get one that doesn't have
a lot of idle hours, and you can look at
that on the most of the time, if it's new
or if it's like an eight two that you know,
I can't remember exactly what year they quit making the
Crown Vic. I wish they never would have stopped. I
wish they would have never stopped.

Speaker 8 (20:45):
Men.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
That car was that was phenomenal vehicle.

Speaker 7 (20:48):
And I love I love the rear drive. I mean,
there's a lot to love about those old cars.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Yeah, but again, idle hours don't necessarily scare me too
much as well, you know, I mean, you know a
lot of those cruisers have you know, one hundred thousand
miles on them, and yeah, they have a lot of
idle hours, but it still doesn't well that's correct, yeah, absolutely, Yeah,

(21:17):
just do what I would tell you is the best
advice I could give you is just whatever, when you
find one, make sure again you find out where where
it came from, right, if it came from northern states
or what we call the Ross belt. Right, even Ohio
is not as bad as like Pennsylvania, Michigan, you know,
New York or whatnot. Find out where it came from,

(21:39):
where it originated, and find out about it. I mean,
if you buy one from I would probably say from Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee, Georgia,
and farther down south probably the better. But just make
sure that when you find one, you just get it
inspected by a mechanic and you know, sometimes you might
find hey, Dane. I found one in you know, southern California,

(22:00):
a rebule shop down there, and have it inspected before
you buy the thing. That's all I ask. And just
make sure that Yeah, I've.

Speaker 7 (22:07):
Got one that I've found in in uh, northern Georgia
that looks like a pretty nice car. There you go
love fairly love mile age. The prices at a liar
that I want to pay, but it might it might not.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
Scare me off, but it might be.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
It might be worth it because if it's been spending,
if it's been in Georgia most of its life, and
there's probably not any rust in it.

Speaker 7 (22:29):
Yeah, what about what about cars here locally around? Now
I'm in northern Kentucky.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
Uh cars locally here? Or find northern Kentucky, Cincinnati, you know, Dayton, uh, Indiana.
You know you'll be fine. But if again, just because
there might be a dealership in Cincinnati that has a
crown vic right and a dealership, but that car may
have came from New York. So you just want to
make sure you checked spend the money. Some dealerships don't. Yeah,

(22:56):
get the car fax, find out where it came from,
what it originated, and look at the vehicle history on
it and make sure that. I mean, if it's spent
most of its time in Cincinnati, Northern Kentucky, Indiana, you're fine.
But if it's been shipped from Michigan or Pennsylvania or
something like that, I would steer clear.

Speaker 7 (23:14):
Okay, all right, thanks love, all right, thank.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
You, all right, take care, have a great weekend. Bye bye,
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Speaker 3 (24:11):
Welcome back. You're listening to the Car Show on fifty
five KRC Talk station. I got to get back to
the phones immediately because the phones are lighting up and
I really want to get to everybody's question. So let's
go to the phones. We have Greg. Hey, Greg, welcome
to the car show. How can I help?

Speaker 8 (24:26):
Oh, I've got a twenty twenty one Kia K five,
and I don't know if you're familiar with the oil
filter and the the plastic cup that holds it on
the bottom, and the drain plug that it also has them.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Well, I mean should be pretty similar to most of
what they have. But it's the you said, the K five. Yes, okay,
what's going on with it? You got? Are you having
problems with that?

Speaker 8 (24:56):
I've got fifty five thousand miles on't I change oil
every five thousand miles and I changed it about twenty
four hundred miles ago, and this morning there was oil
on my driveway. Okay, so I changed the filter out again.
I guess an O ring there's an O ring on
the cup and an O ring in that drain flood,

(25:17):
but the whole apparatus seems ridiculously chintzy.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
Yeah, welcome to the new Welcome to the car market.

Speaker 8 (25:28):
So I don't know if if it makes a difference
who I buy the oil filters from.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
You know, I mean or no, well, no necessarily. I mean,
did you see the oil was it coming out of
that plastic cap or coming out from that O ring?

Speaker 8 (25:46):
It looked like it was coming out of the cap
more at the top rather than the drain plug because
it was wet up high.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
Okay, are you talking about that little plug at the time,
the draine plug at the bottom you're on the oil pan.

Speaker 8 (26:07):
Yeah, the plastic cups down below. There's a like a
twenty two millimeter wrench.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Right to get that for the oil filter, yep.

Speaker 8 (26:18):
Yeah, And there's like a pin that goes in with
a T shape and you put it up in and
then twist it and lock it, and I guess it
keeps the filter from turning inside there. I don't know,
but but it seems like more like it's just a
drain to drain the cup. So when you take it off,
you don't get drenched with oil, right, you do anyway,

(26:39):
so it doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
It doesn't matter. Yeah, is your oil filter housing? Is
it above like underneath the hood or is it underneath
the vehicle?

Speaker 8 (26:47):
It's on the bottom, underneath the vehicle, Okay.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
I mean and you said you replace the filter and
the ring and it seemed to be coming from that
that ring from the cap.

Speaker 8 (27:01):
Right, But it was bone dry for twenty four hundred
miles and I don't know. Maybe the cold had something
to do with it.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
Yeah, I mean you could. I mean it could because
you know that you know that little O rings rubber, right,
and you know with heat and whatnot, things expand and contract.
Where did you get the filter from? I think was O'Reilly's, Okay,
you know, I do see is it was it like

(27:30):
their house brand or whatnot?

Speaker 8 (27:33):
Probably I didn't ask I just right, they're hard to find.
It's like a special order and sometimes they don't come
in and just and you're.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Yeah, and you're doing the ol change yourself correct, right?
I mean yeah, a lot of times what we see
is two things. One, I mean the cap itself and
the housing. I'm sure it is perfectly fine. Two things.
What we see is a lot of times when you
go to tighten it up, that little O ring will
get a cut in it, a small cut, or you
can tear it. I mean it's happened to us. I mean,

(28:06):
my guys do these things all day long, and they'll
put one in and they just go to tighten it
up like they're supposed to, and when tightening it, they
it rips and will cause a leak. I would type
of I mean, I would recommend if you're gonna if
you're doing it yourself, I would just probably get the
filter from Kiah the rubber rings, correct, Yeah, I mean,

(28:35):
I you know, I don't. I don't necessarily. I'm not
opposed to buying aftermarket, but typically it depends on what
you're buying. But aftermarket, typically the quality is not as
good as the dealer. That rubber gasket that you put
in there probably just it. It's probably just the qualities

(28:55):
is probably not there. I mean, it happens to us.
But did you end up getting the same oil filter
or did you buy a different brand this time?

Speaker 8 (29:05):
Yeah, I got the same one. I put it in
and drove from Anderson Township to Montgomery and it doesn't
leak a drop.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Okay, yet, did you Yeah, did you inspect the old ring,
the old O ring, just to see if there's any
type of tear. I mean, I mean we're talking about
not even like it doesn't have to be completely cut,
like completely torn. I mean you can have a hairline
crack in those things and or just throw it away.

Speaker 8 (29:33):
Yeah, I mean I saved it, but I'll look more
closely at it. I thought I saw like a sliver
of some sort. So what you're saying is probably exactly right.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
I mean, it doesn't take much. And again a lot
of times there might not be anything wrong with that gasket.
And then just when you go to tighten it up.
What I would recommend when you do so when you
put that new O ring on, do you take some
of the old oil and just kind of run your
finger over that ring.

Speaker 8 (30:04):
I use the new oil, but but I do do that, yeah,
because I mean that would prevent too from anything tearing.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
Possibly because basically you're lubricating that gasket just to make
sure that when you're tightening it down it doesn't get
a tear. So but I have seen Listen, we put on,
you know, hundreds of filters a week, and yeah, I mean,
every once in a while you get maybe a manufacturer
defect or they go to put it on. The technician

(30:32):
didn't do anything wrong, and it just it tears when
they tighten it up, and you know, people calling like, hey,
I got an oil leak. Now after you guys changed
my oh and come back, and sure enough there's there's
a little hairline cut or tear in that ring.

Speaker 8 (30:45):
So it happens, and it's just surprised it took twenty
four hundred miles for it to begin leaking.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Well, and again, I mean it could be a little
bit of the rubber o ring, the quality of the product, right,
just from getting hot cold, hot cold, as cold as
it's been, right, that thing swells and then it gets
So it could be a little bit of the weather
factor too, because you know, is it really made out
of rubber or some type of synthetic you know.

Speaker 8 (31:16):
So yeah, there's there's a lot of expansion and contraction
going on.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
So and again, I mean, you know again, I mean
I've I've had people like, you know, we put a
we change your oil, and they don't have a single problem,
and then five thousand miles later, the oil filter's leaking, right,
wasn't leaking before it went five thousand miles and then
it started leaking, So it happens. I don't think there's
any I don't think there's any concern. Just make sure

(31:42):
you keep your eye on it. And yeah, just keep
your eye on it. And if you can buy the
one from Kia, I know it's gonna be a little
bit more. But you know, if you're doing it yourself,
you're already and I've always been a big proponent of this.
If you're doing it yourself, spend the money on the
on the on the the good filter and and to
go by. All right again, I'm taking your phone calls

(32:04):
and I'm gonna call five one, three seven fifty five hundred,
although I don't know that I'm gonna be able to
get to everybody. I'm so sorry. I've also I've said
this a ton of times on the show. If you're
doing your own car repair, which I absolutely you know, man,
there's a lot of people out there that can do

(32:26):
this stuff, right, And if you're working on your own car,
you're already saving your your yourself a tremendous amount of money. Right.
So I've always said that if you're going to do
it yourself. Please buy a quality part. I'm not knocking
after market parts or whatnot, but if you're already doing it,
you're already saving yourself a ton of money. Buy a

(32:47):
good quality part. It's really does make a difference, makes
a difference, and you're gonna get better quality and it's
the most likely the part's gonna last longer. Okay. You know,
I could use a good analogy if you're like, hey,
you know your doc's like, hey, we're gonna have to

(33:09):
go ahead and replace a you know, a valve in
your heart. Do you want the cheapest one you can buy, Yeah,
it probably lasts you about another ten years, or do
you want to buy the more expensive one and you know,
probably live to one hundred years old. Most of us
would say, hey, give me the good one. Right, that's
a little extreme, But what I'm saying is, you know

(33:31):
you're already doing the work. You're already saving yourself the
money on labor and whatnot. Buy the good quality part, okay,
And there's an easy way to do it. I'm not
saying you have to buy it from the dealer, but
you can do a little bit of research and find
a good quality part.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
Right.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
If you've got a Ford, you want to buy a motorcraft.
If you've got a GM, you want to buy ac Delco.
If you have a Toyota, you want to buy Denzo.
If you have a Hana Denzo, if you have a Hyundai,
you can do Denzo as well. You know. So you
just want to make sure that you're buying a good
quality part. If you're doing the work yourself, and again
I applaud you great job for doing it, and a
lot of people do like doing it. You know, it's

(34:10):
a Saturday for today, it's forty degrees that it feels
like a you know, nice spring day. But you know,
you want to make sure that you you know, not
having to go back in there and do it again. Right,
So all right again, taking your phone calls, anant to
call five one three seven fifty five hundred. Coming up.
We have Joel, George, Robin Jerry. You're listening to the

(34:31):
Car Show on fifty five krs the talk station.

Speaker 6 (34:33):
I have been a customer of Donovan's for ten years.
It's not always easy to find a mechanic that you
can trust, that isn't going to take advantage of you.
They treated me respectfully not talk down to me. There
are mechanics right down the road, but I chose to
keep coming back here because they treated me as family,
so much so that four years ago I started working here.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Hi Dale Donovan from Donovan's Otto entire Center, the honest
choice for car repair in Cincinnati since nineteen fifty eight.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
Find the one nearest to you at Donovantyre dot com.

Speaker 5 (35:03):
This is fifty five KRC and iHeartRadio station.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Welcome back. Taking your car questions, and here every Saturday
to answer all of them. I am Dean Donovan from
Donovan's Auto entire Center. Let's get back to the phones
we have. Joel, Hey, Joel, Welcome to the car show.
How can I help?

Speaker 4 (35:23):
Hello? I have a twenty thirteen Camray with a one
hundred and fifty six thousand miles on it, and when
I bought it, I'm sure it road better. I wouldn't
have bought it. And it's an Sea, so I think
it has a stifferent suspension. Is that correct?

Speaker 3 (35:47):
I don't. I don't think the AL.

Speaker 4 (35:52):
I haven't got an answer from the Toyota dealer.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
You no. I don't think the SE or the ELI
are going to have a different suspension. It should be
the same.

Speaker 4 (36:03):
Uh well maybe stiffer.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Roll bars, yuh the sway bars. Yeah, well, I mean.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
But that doesn't help the ride anyway. It seems like
the ride is getting stiffer and stiffer all the time.
Maybe it's because I'm getting older and but don that's
not that funny. But I'm just wondering shocks. I see

(36:34):
them go bad and then there's just going crazy. There's
no shock available, and then but mine or stiff I mean,
what's the deal.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
I mean, typically when you when a when a shock
or a strut is going bad, you typically will have
a bouncy ride, right, not a stiff ride, but like
a really really bouncing Yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:59):
Yeah, seen them. Yeah, okay, I understand how it works
and everything. And they should have not called them shock
absorbers in the first place.

Speaker 8 (37:08):
They should have.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
Called them spring damp the nurse. Yeah, but that's what
they are.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
That's what they are. You're right, it's a lot of
there's a lot of confusion, beg. Yeah. Yeah, there's a
lot of confusion too, because there's there's shocks and then
their struts, and it's like, what's the difference, and shocks
don't have a spring around them struts due and yep, yep, yep.
I mean, if you have one hundred and fifty thousand miles,
I think it would be a good idea to replace them. Now,

(37:36):
when I say that, though it's very expensive, is this
something that you would do yourself or would you take
it to a mechanic?

Speaker 6 (37:43):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (37:44):
No, I probably won't even do either one right now?

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Okay, yeah, because I mean it's probably God, it's probably
twenty it's probably about two grand, twenty two hundred dollars
to put all new, all new struts on that that camera.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
No, it's expensive to shape that information. I'll I'll tell
my wife and she'll say, no, I won't get it done.
I won't get it done.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
All right, Yeah, I mean, I mean, if it's a
stiff ride, it could just be like you said, uh,
maybe maybe just you personally, maybe you just feel like
it's riding stiffer. But typically when a shock or strut
is worn out, you're gonna get a bouncy ride, right,
You're gonna go over bump and the whole thing's just
kind of bouncing. But man, at one hundred and fifty

(38:30):
thousand miles, it would be a good idea to do it.
But if they're not blown out, I'd have it inspected
by a mechanic. If the if the strut itself is
not physically leaking any fluid, then I wouldn't worry about it.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
Yeah, well, I know it's not okay. I can't get
under it to look. But okay, all right, I'm taking
enough time.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
All right, Joel, thank you, you have a great day.
All right, let's go back to the phones we have George. Hey, George,
welcome the car show. How kind of help?

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Thank you for taking my car down, sir. I have
a twenty fifteen gmc Terrain four cylinder with one hundred
and two thousand miles. Well satisfied with the vehicle. I
noticed during this cold weather, I'm getting more moisture out
the tailpipe than usual, a little more. And with this

(39:23):
moisture I get the tailpipe is black inside, and I
get black stains with this moisture on the driveway. And
this is a concern about the dirt on the garage floor.
I checked the checked the oil level to see maybe
I got a head gasket or I checked the I

(39:48):
checked the oil, and I checked the anny freeze, the
anti freezer right up to par and the oil I
don't show those signs of coffee stain or being higher
than the dipstick level.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
Yeah, so I mean yeah, I mean you're gonna get
a little bit more moisture in the exhaust because of
the cold and because of the temperatures, and you know,
and it's cold outside and you've got the you know,
the engine is kind of hot. The black soot that
you're seeing is that's carbon. That's just you know, a
byproduct of the exhaust itself. Now, what I will tell

(40:21):
you is, yes, the GMC terrains uh most vehicles nowadays
and TERRAINUS is a pretty big one. Uh, they will
over time start using a little bit of oil. Now
when I say a little bit, I'm not talking like
you're having to add it or whatnot. But it could
be a byproduct of the vehicle using oil, and that's

(40:43):
why you're getting that that little bit of that carbon
or that that that that soot that build up. Now,
I don't it has nothing to do with Well, you
may be seeing it because of the cold and the
moisture that's coming out of the exhaust, but you know,
in the summer months, you don't see it because it's
it's hot out right, but it's just that carbon and

(41:03):
it's the oil, but it's the byproduct of the vehicle,
probably most likely using a little bit of oil and
again h some carbon build up and with the moisture
in the in the cold, you're you're gonna see it
dripping on the ground. I don't think there's you don't
have anything going on wrong with the vehicle. I would

(41:24):
do what you're continuing to do is make sure that
you're checking the oil. But I don't think that there's
any cause for alarm. It's very common and we see
it quite a bit, so I think you're perfectly fine.
I don't think there's anything to be concerned about.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
What can you get those stains off the garage for with?
Do you have anything used in the garage that you
clean these faces? I?

Speaker 3 (41:47):
You know, I I would try there's some there's a
lot of products out there, but I would just try
a little bit of down and uh, a little bit
of down in hot water, a little scrub rush.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
One more quick questions, sir, I won't the dealer and
I had the inacrease changed in October. The deck's cool, Yeah,
I had it changed, and he said, I needed a
water pump back in October. Lokay, sir, sure the water
pump is not leaking. There's no noise. Uh on my
hate temperature age is normal.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
Yeah, well, George, I gotta go. I'm up against the
clock here. But George, if you're not seeing anything, it's
not using it, then I wouldn't worry about it. I
really wouldn't. So Rob and I apologized that I could
not get to you. Please call back next Saturday. I'll
you call first, first thing. I'll take care of your
car question. So thank you everybody having great weekend. I'll

(42:43):
be back next Saturday to answer all of your car questions.
You're listening to the Car Show on fifty five krc
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