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February 8, 2026 43 mins

Dane Donovan tackles common car issues and shares expert advice. He discusses software glitches in modern vehicles, explaining how to troubleshoot and potentially resolve the problem. Dane also shares a personal anecdote about buying a new vehicle and the importance of regular oil changes. He emphasizes that changing oil every 5,000 miles can extend a car's lifespan and prevent costly repairs. Additionally, Dane answers listener questions, offering solutions to issues with a Honda Odyssey's power steering and a Kia Optima's oil consumption.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Bussome driving down there in.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Second through the liddles down volunteers.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Taking your car questions. The number to call five one
three seven three.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Forgot the number seven, So I got distracted. I'm in
here talking to Tony. I got distracted. He's distracted me.
So uh uh, So again I'm here, Dane Donovan taking
all of your car questions. Again the number to call
five one three seven fifty five hundred. That number again,
five one three seven fifty fred I was It wasn't

(00:52):
necessary Tony that was distracting me. It was I was
distracted because of I was telling a story. And uh,
I sometimes can get a bit animated, and my frustrations
can inhibit my ability to give out phone numbers. So
but again I am here. I did remember to bring
my headphones today, and in fact, last week, as some

(01:13):
of you were tuning in, I was late, about fifteen
minutes late. You'd think I'd have it narrowed down by now,
but I did not. But I this morning woke up
and I put my headphones on my bag, so I
had to bring them with me. And in fact, I
was leaving in my middle son, who's probably the most
irresponsible child I have says, Dad, don't forget your headphones.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
I like, man, that's bad when you're and my damn.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
My producer texts me this morning as well, and I
mean my son, literally, my middle son will walk out
the door to go to school with no shoes on
and he says to me, Dad, don't forget your headphones.
And I'm like, man, I have hit rock bottom when
my twelve year olds tell me don't forget my headphones. So,

(02:00):
but I am here, and my opinion was on time,
but for other people it's late, but I was on
before that.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
I had to be on.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
So I'm here all day, not all day for a
full hour taking your car questions. Again, the number call
five one three seven fifty five hundred. Again I mentioned
last week and I want to bring it up again. Uh,
Donovan's Auto entire Center was voted best in Cincinnati, best
of the city, and really proud of that, really proud

(02:31):
of our customers that you know, voted for us and
we couldn't do it without you, And I just wanted
to thank everybody for voting for us.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
And again we will continue to give you.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
The best service at Donovan's Auto entire Center, the best
service that you can possibly get. So Also, I want
to make a quick mention too. I we are hiring.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Technicians.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
So if there's a if anybody listening there is, you know,
looking for a U technician position, please email me or
give me a call at my new location. That's the
Auto Foreign location. Uh. If you just go to donovantire
dot com again, it's it's Donovan's Auto Foreign.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
And you know, that's.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Probably one of the biggest struggles in this line of work.
And really it's you know, it's across the board everywhere, right,
retail stores and mechanics and plumbers and electricians and and
it's it's probably the most difficult part of what we
do now. Mind you, Like when I got into this.

(03:36):
When I got into this, you could find a technician
pretty easily, right, But now with all the technology and
the equipment and all the training you need, and uh,
you know it really it's it's hard. So if there's
anybody out there that may be looking, or know if
somebody is looking, please.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Send them my way. I would greatly appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
So again, taking your phone calls and I'm gonna call
five one three seven fifty five hundred. Let's go to
the phones we have Eddie. Hey, Eddie, welcome to the
car show. How can I help?

Speaker 4 (04:07):
Hey, good afternoon.

Speaker 5 (04:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
I spoke to you a couple of weeks ago about
my wife's twenty eighteen vallvo with the Stott stop issue.
Oh yeah, yeah, and you told me to give you
a call back that maybe you did some research.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah, correct me if I'm wrong. You did the auxiliary
battery and the main battery. You did both batteries, correct, correct?

Speaker 4 (04:28):
And I just did a voltage check the consat for
two days, and the main battery had twelve point five
two volts, the auxiliary had twelve point ninety five volts.
And then when I started up, the main battery jumps
to fifteen point one seven volts and the auxiliary jumped
to fifteen point two two votes okay, while it was running,

(04:54):
still having the issue.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yeah, I did do some research.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
I did do some looking and digging, and I did
not find anything that was alarming or glaring or anything
that I could pinpoint put my finger on. I'm wondering
if at I think I'm sure you're trying to avoid this.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
You haven't taken it anywhere?

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Correct, No, I have not. My opinion, and thought process.
I mean, like I said, I didn't see anything glaring,
nothing popped out in front of me. I'm wondering if
it's just a software glitch or a software update or issue.
A lot of times there might just be a software update.

(05:36):
To try to get that to work. Have you tried.
The other thing that we can try to do is
disconnect the main battery and put both battery cable ends,
disconnecting them, holding them together for about a minute. What
this does is it's kind of like a hard reset. Right,
if your cell phone's acting up, you turn it off, right,

(05:59):
you know, if your computer's acting up, you turn off
to a restart. So by taking both battery cable ends
off on the main battery, holding them together, a lot
of times that will Basically it's a hard restart for
the car. You can try that. If the start stop
features still is not working, it's probably a software issue

(06:20):
that is only unfortunately, gonna have to go back.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
To the dealer.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
Okay, I'll give it a shot.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Try it. Let me know. Thank you and.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
Congratulations on your reward. O.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Well, thank you, I appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
Have a great week too, Take care, But bye, I
don't know I don't know what it is, but I
get a ton of callers from Boston, ton at least
one or two a week, and I've been to Boston.
Wants beautiful city to love it. Told my wife I
was gonna take her up there one time one of
these days. We're lucky if we can even go out

(06:54):
to go out to dinner. So we've got just sports
on top of sports on top of sport orts. I'm
leaving here going to two more basketball games, and we
actually are going to try to do a movie tonight,
but we'll see how that works out.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
So all right, again, I'm taking your phone calls and
number call five.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
One three seven four nine fifty five hundred. That number again,
five one three seven four nine fifty five hundred. Phone
lines are wide open. Would love to hear from you,
so please give me a call. You're listening to the
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(07:59):
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Speaker 1 (08:07):
Taking your car questions.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
The number call five one three seven fifty five hundred.
That number again, five one three, seven four nine fifty
five hundred Again.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Phone lines are wide open, promised to get you in here.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
So, uh yeah, I don't know if everybody's I don't know,
getting ready for the Super Bowl or what, but uh,
everybody's got car problems. So but uh, anyways, I wanted
to talk about you know, uh Eddie who just called
from Boston.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
You know he's got this the software issue.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
And more and more every day we see things like
this with these new cars and the software issues, and
it is challenging in our industry because if for a
shop like us, we're on you know, we can't it's
it would it's so expensive to have everybody's software. Mercedes,

(08:59):
you gotta have different software, BMW, Jaguar, Land River, I mean,
they're all different softwares and it's really really difficult to
have all of them right. So you got to make
sure that you know, you're taking it to a reputable
shop and you know, making sure that they have the
equipment and the tools to do that. Now, there are

(09:20):
some times where we might not right, and the best
thing to do is and is just say, hey, listen,
you know I don't have the software or I might
not have the proper tool to do this.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Mainly it's just software.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
I mean anything that pertains to you know, the breaks,
the tires of the engine and everything like, that's fine.
But you know, we get a lot of phone calls
about people wanting us to you know, hey, do you
program keys? I need a new key and need a
new ignition key, and that is like that's like Fort Knox.
I mean really the dealerships have that that market cornered

(09:54):
pretty well. And I mean I remember, heck, when I
first started driving, you would have two that's the keys,
or two.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Keys you have one for the ignition, one for the door.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
You know. Now nowadays you don't even have to take
your key out of your pocket, and which my wife
never ever loses her car keys anymore because she never
takes them out of her purse.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
So there's kind of there's a you know, there is
a a good feature, but it's it's it's funny.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
A lot of people come in that are dropping their
car off and uh they're wanting to Uh I'm like,
all right, can I have your key? And they're like,
oh yeah, and they're just like just digging, digging through
that purse to try to find that key because they
just don't take it out. But uh, you know the

(10:40):
software and that's why sometimes you want to make sure
that you're taking it your your vehicle to you know,
a reputable shop that can uh do these updates. And
like I said, most vehicles, we can all your your
hond As, your Toyotas, your Fords, your GMS, we can

(11:01):
do BMW. But you know sometimes the land Rover, Range Rover, Mercedes,
uh sometimes those they they don't release that software and
it's uh, you know it's hard to it's hard to
do that. So you know, you just want to make
sure that you're getting it to a to another great shop.
So I keep the phone lines. They're lighting up, but

(11:22):
they come on and they pop off. So but anyways,
then NUM gonna call five one three seven that number again,
five one three seven nine fifty five hundred. I wanted to,
and I I know that I harp on this all
the time, and well, actually I think we've got.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah, we've got all right, we've got John. Hey, John,
welcome to the car show. How cand of help?

Speaker 7 (11:47):
Yes, I just wanted to. I called last week about
my Cobalt and you told me to get ac Delco
cam sensor.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Oh yeah, yeah, the syllanoids, Yeah yep.

Speaker 7 (11:59):
And I replaced replaced the one and kept kept one
old old one and replace the one that's harder to
get to, which is in the back, and uh clear
to clear the codes and then started up and no
check engine light came back. So that worked really ac

(12:19):
Delcos yep, Because I had you used a uh a
different company that read codes for you, and you bought
it from there and they didn't work.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Well, well I'm glad, so so you put the two
ac Delco sensors in it, and light didn't come back
on and it's.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Been good ever since.

Speaker 8 (12:40):
Great.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Great, that's awesome. Thanks for the follow up. I appreciate it.

Speaker 8 (12:44):
Yeah, yeah, I know.

Speaker 7 (12:46):
Next time, if it's anything electronic wise, just go to
the dealer.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah, it's you know, and I've said I've said it
a million times on the show, but look, if you're
doing the work yourself, just spend the extra money and
buy the factory part. I know it's more, but really,
when it comes to something like this, right, it was
able to fix your problem, right, A lot of people
will be racking their brains like, oh, maybe I need
a computer. Maybe it's the wiring. No, it was just

(13:11):
the aftermarket sensors just you know, weren't working, you know,
and I'm not you know, we put aftermarket parts on cars.
It's it's but it depends on what you're doing, right,
If you want to put after market brakes or an
alternator starter, I'm okay with that, right, But when you
get into the electronics of the vehicle, especially timing parts,

(13:31):
you really want to stick to the original you know,
the OEM manufacturer just because they're really, really finicky and
you got to put the factory part in otherwise, you know,
so well good, I'm glad you called.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
I'm I appreciate the follow up.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
And yeah, electrical parts, especially when it comes to timing
stuff or or also mass airflow sensors.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
That is the biggest racket out there.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Uh, mass mass airflow sensor will fail all the time,
and oxygen sensors, and people put aftermarket ones in and
then they have the same code and they're like, well,
that obviously wasn't the problem and just the aftermarket ones
just aren't good quality.

Speaker 7 (14:11):
So yeah, yeah, well and one thing it made me
do is go ahead and give me a code reader
for myself, and that and that and maybe and I
bought one that you can actually do live data with
it too, so that, yeah, I figure that that'll be
more of a beneficial one. And I can do it
myself as I and someone else will read it.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Well absolutely, and then and then you can see too,
you know, if you've got a misfire or whatnot. I
will read active missfires. Do you know.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
I believe that it will Okay because a lot of
ye you get it.

Speaker 7 (14:44):
Actually you can actually record it.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Too, okay, Oh wow, Okay, man, they're getting they're getting
sophisticated nowadays.

Speaker 7 (14:54):
Yeah, it was with you know, VIA one thousand, I
think it was that.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
I got O. Yeah, I mean when you when you
can get one that can record live data, that's really
helpful because a lot of times if you've got a
vehicle that's you know, V six or V eight and
it's missfiring, right, and sometimes these cars will just flag
a PO three hundred, which is a random cylinder misfire,
and you're like, well, which one's missfiring.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
It's not flagging that particular cylinder.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
So if you can watch the live the live stream
and watch the DADA and you and you can watch
which cylinder is misfiring or how many times it's misfired,
allows you to pinpoint exactly which cylinder is your problem,
so you're not having to do you know, a major,
major tune up, you know, replacing all the spark plugs
and all the coils, which can cost a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
So yeah, yeah, I think it'd be worth the investment.

Speaker 8 (15:43):
Yeah. I do appreciate your Hey, I'm.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
I'm you know, hey, I appreciate the follow up, and
uh yeah, so well, thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Good luck to you. If you need anything else, you
give me a call.

Speaker 8 (15:57):
Okay, thank you, take care.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Uh that's always good news to hear. You know, sometimes
I sometimes I guess right not.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
That's the thing we've talked. I've talked about this on
the show.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Look, if you're doing the work yourself, and I'm never
will I ever talk anybody out of doing the work themselves,
you're saving yourself a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
That's and that's what the show's about.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Is I'm here to help you out in any way,
shape or form than I can. And the gentleman called
last week said, hey, I've got these codes.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
I put in the sensors and I still have the
same codes.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
And I told John, I said, look, put in an
AC Delco sensor. Put in the factory part. Are they
more sure? But in this case you never, especially with
timing parts. You really don't want to do aftermarket. You
want to just do factory. And the sensors aren't much.
The sensors, I think they're around like seventy six bucks
a pieces too of them. There's an intake and exhaust.

(16:53):
There's seventy six bucks. Can you buy some on eBay
for I'm sorry, Amazon for twenty bucks. Yeah, but you
know this gentleman had to do the job twice because
he bought a cheaper part. So you want to be careful,
especially in aftermarket. And again we use aftermarket parts. I'm
not knocking them, but you need to be You need

(17:13):
to make sure that you do your homework and especially
if you're doing yourself, spend the money on the on
the good part. If you're doing after if you're again,
if you're doing a starter, alternator, breaks, wiper blades, you know,
something like that, you can do after market. That'd be fine,
you know, but when you get into the electronics modules
and sensors, mass airflow sensor, oxygen sensor, you know what's

(17:38):
the what John was talking about, VVT, sylenoids, things like that,
you really want to stick the original equipment manufacturer. Okay,
And you know, if it's it's a it's If it's
a GM product, it's a c Delco, it's a Ford product,
it's Motorcraft. If it's a Honda, it's it's Denzo. And uh,
if it's Toyota, it's Denzo. So so you know, you

(18:01):
want to make sure that you know, use a good
quality part and save yourself from having to do the
job twice. So all right again the number call five
one three seven four nine fifty five hundred. That number again,
five one three seven four nine fifty five hundred.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
I wanted to.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
I had a gentleman. I wanted to bring this up.
And I didn't argue with him, but I tried to
steer him.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
In the right direction.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
The gentleman brought his vehicle in for a ninety five
thousand mile service, which really isn't much. It was just
an oil change, and kind of checked the car over
look the car over and he goes, hey, when did
I have my oil change last? And I said, what
you Look, I go back in his history and this
oil was changed at ninety thousand, and he's ninety five,
so he's due. And he goes, I want to bring

(18:48):
it in for a ninety five thousand mile service, but
I don't want to change the oil.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
And I said, is there any particular reason why?

Speaker 3 (18:54):
He goes, well, i've been my car says to change
it every ten thousand, and I said, well that's I mean,
that's what they that's what the dealer record, that's what
the vehicle recommends, But really you should be changing every
five thousand and he goes, you know, so we kind
of went round around as to why he wanted it
done in ten and you know, all, if that's what

(19:16):
he wants, that's that's perfectly fine. But I tried a
little bit kind of course him into like you really
should be changing every five thousand miles, especially if I
mean he's bringing it in every five thousand miles.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
I mean he was on top of his maintenance. I
checked his maintenance schedule.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
I mean everything he was doing was was right on
time for maintenance. But he only changes oil every ten
thousand miles. And I tried to I tried, like heck
to try to get him to get his oil changed,
but he didn't want to do it. So but again,
we want to focus on the sticker that's in your window.

(19:51):
It's every five thousand miles. The oil should be changed
every day. I have a car in my shop that
it's in there because it has an oil problem either
timing chain issues. John just called about that very live
timing celenoids those go bad because of lack of oil
pressure and time and time. Again, it's a conversation that

(20:13):
we need to have. And I know I talk about
it a lot, but it's it's just it's just something
that we we need to.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
I need to.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
I just feel like I need to pound it in
everybody's head that it's five thousand miles that we need
to be changing this oil.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Okay. I recently again.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Had the opportunity to buy a new vehicle myself, and
guess what the truck tells me. I need to change
oil every seventy five hundred and ten thousand miles. You
know what I did at five thousand miles. I changed
oil that on that vehicle. Okay, and can the vehicles?
And I watched a great, great there's a there's a
gentleman that I follow on Instagram and uh and I

(20:51):
was watching it before I came, before I came to
the studio, and he was talking about, you know, he
had a Nissan sixty thousand miles, had one oil change
in sixty thousand miles. They pulled the valve covers off
of the thing. And there's just mud, It's just tar,
it's just mud. And uh man, it's the simplest and
best thing that you can do for your vehicle. And

(21:12):
yet I do believe that there's a lot of misleading
and I think confusion right, And so when there's confusion,
everybody goes, well, I'll just I don't know, I'll just
do every ten thousand, or I'll just do it with the no.
I'm telling you, five thousand miles is when you speak
you want these cars aren't getting any cheaper. These things are,
you know, fifty sixty seventy. I mean, it's one hundred

(21:32):
thousand dollars for a vehicle. And the single best thing
and cheapest thing that you can do to keep it
on the road is to change your oil. And I
just want everybody to know that I'm telling you every
five thousand miles is when it needs to be done.
I mean, my father in law was talking to him
last week when I left the show. He had another

(21:53):
basketball game and he goes, hey, we were listening to
your show, and he goes, my mother in law was
actually saying, hey, listen, we just bought a new car
and we're at like twenty five hundred miles. Should we
change it now? And I said, no, change it at
five thousand. Just stick to five and you'll be fine.
But far too often, you know, he actually bought a
Toyota and when he took it in there, they gave
him free oil change it like three free oil changes.

(22:15):
He took it in there at five thousand miles, and
they're like, oh no, no, you don't need an old change yet,
so they wouldn't honor the free oil change at five thousand, like, no,
you need to bring it back.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
In ten thousand, which in my opinion is wrong.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
If the customer, if you give him three free oil
changes and he wants to change at five thousand, I
believe that you should do it at five thousand, So
make sure, please, you know, I just can't harp it enough.
Please every ten thousand, every five thousand miles, it needs
to be changed.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
I don't care what.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
The book says, I don't care what the car salesman
that sold you the vehicle sad.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Look at that little sticker in your window.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
Every five thousand miles and you will get I guarantee
you two hundred thousand miles out of your vehicle. And
so often that's not what we're seeing. I mean, I've
got a vehicle. I have a Mini Cooper at my
shop right now, eighty six thousand miles on. It won't run,
needs chains because there was no oil in it, and
it stressed the chain jump time, and so the gentleman
was like, you know what, I'm not gonna fix it.

(23:13):
I mean, eighty six thousand miles. We shouldn't be junking
our cars at eighty six thousand miles. And it all
led to the fact that he wasn't changing the oil
or it was ran low on oil multiple times, which
led to the demise of the chain and him not
fixing the car. So now he's got to go out
and buy another, you know, fifty sixty thousand dollars vehicle.
So it's it's important and I can't stress it enough.

(23:34):
So all right again, I'm taking your phone calls in
order to call five one three seven four nine fifty
five hundred. That number again, five one three seven four
nine fifty five hundred phone lines right up and love
to hear from you guys. Please give me a call.
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(23:55):
hard work under the hood.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Hi, I'm Dane Donovan.

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(24:22):
questions the number call five one three seven fifty That again,
five one three seven four nine fifty five one hundred.
Let's go back to the phones. We've got Dan, Hey Dan,
Welcome to the car show. How can I help?

Speaker 5 (24:36):
Hi?

Speaker 8 (24:36):
Dan, hey man. I have a twenty fifteen for it's
using the highbrid. It's got a two point zero in it,
and I changed thermostat on it a couple of months ago,
and I think I got air in there. I don't
know how to get it out.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Uh, great question.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Have you is a vehicle overheating or anything?

Speaker 8 (24:56):
No, but it doesn't heat up. It's doing exact same
thing before I put the new thermostat in it. These
hybrids don't like cold, so it takes it forever to
warm up. I mean it'll start blowing out heat pretty
much right away. But the digital gauge will take forever
to show it even move it when it's really cool, especially.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
Okay, and then so it was doing that before and
that's why you put the thermostat in it. But it's
still is the gauge, I mean, is the gauge in
the middle. And still you don't you have a you
don't have great heat.

Speaker 8 (25:36):
Uh No, I have great heat. But the gauge will
drop down on very cold days. When I have the
blower on high, it'll just you could see the thermostite
drop and drop and drop and drop, and it'll go
all the way down the cold and then after I
drive it with the engine on, you can see it
raising back up a little bit. But when it's like
this temperature, it'll stay right in the middle where it's

(25:56):
supposed to. And it's always done that. It's about us
in twenty eighteen.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Oh, it's always done that.

Speaker 8 (26:07):
Yeah, huh. But I don't know, is there a there's
a device you have to put on the filler cap
of the reservoir and blows air across it and sucks
out the air. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
So, I mean typically a couple of things.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
Some cars, Yes, you can get air trapped in the
event in the heater core.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
And cause you know low heat or whatnot.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
What we do, Yeah, there is a device you can
you can you need like it's mostly on like European vehicles.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
It wouldn't be on a ford.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
But typically what you want to do if you want
to try to get air out of it is have
it run and you want the radiator higher than the
heater core, right, so either park it or on a
really steep hill. What we do is like we'll just
jack up the front end, We'll put on a lift,
We'll just jack up the front end, right, and so
that the radiator is the highest part.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
So what do you want to do?

Speaker 3 (27:02):
And then when it's warmed up, you know, you know
with the wheels, the radiator again, you want the the
heater core is gonna be right behind the glove box, right,
so you want that radiator higher than that, So it
doesn't have to be ridiculously high. But you know, on
a nice steep hill or if you have access to
like some you know, some drive on ramps, if you're
gonna like change.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Your own oil, yeah, you get get them on there.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
And then what you're gonna do is just you're gonna
kind of maybe get it at like two three thousand
RPMs and you want that get it up to normal
operating temperature. You want those fans to kick on, and
you want it while those fans are on. You're you're
you're giving it gas. Right, You're trying to force that
air out of the the heater core, and hopefully you
want the radiator cap off as well. You want the

(27:47):
rate so some coolant might spill out or whatnot.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
So uh, you know, make sure.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
You know you're not making a mess in your driveway,
but you want the radiator cap off. You want the
front wheels, the radiator higher than the heater core. And
then get it at the operating temperature and you're gonna
give it some gas two three thousand RPMs and you
want you want that cool cycling through that and try
to get that air bubble, that air pocket out of
that heater core.

Speaker 8 (28:12):
Okay, so this car doesn't have a radiator cap. It's
got just a reservoir and it's.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Got at keep the reservoir cap off.

Speaker 8 (28:19):
Yeah, oh gotcha, all right, thank you for that, and
just have it higher than the heater core and eventually
after it boils itself out, it should you cannot accelerate.
You cannot accelerate rate these cars when they're Yeah, but
I did let it run, and it did bubble out
and and I believe it may have come out all

(28:40):
the way.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (28:41):
It's very interesting. So what I'll do is I'll put
it on the ramps and get the front end of
it raised up and just put it new. So the
trick on these cards is to get them to run.
It is to turn the key on actually thinking that
it's going to start when it doesn't because it's a hybrid.
Then presle but halfway down on the accelerator and the
engine will start up. And then once it does that,
I think, put your foot on the brake and put

(29:02):
it in neutral and it'll continue to run until you
put it in park. This is the trick to gas
hybrids to run when they're when because they don't want
to run their right their goal is not to run
at all.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Yeah, so yeah, I know.

Speaker 8 (29:14):
And they don't have a servace team belt either, so
I'm in there trying to change the service team belt.
There's there's there isn't money.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
So yeah, well yeah, yeah, I know I'm not a
fan of them, but some. I mean, there's I tell
you what, though, there's a lot of people out there
driving hybrids.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
I'm just done.

Speaker 8 (29:33):
I'll never do it again. I'll never buy another hybrid.
I'll tell you right now, not in the Midwest.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
I'm glad to well, I'm glad to hear it. I
just I've I don't know, I mean, you see for me,
it's just like I see it all the time. Like
everybody's like, great, yes, you save a lot of money
on gas.

Speaker 8 (29:55):
Right or yeah, fifty miles a gallon.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Yeah, but at about one hundred thousand miles or a
little bit less or a little bit more, the hybrid
battery on the vehicle goes bad. And on a Prius
it's over five thousand dollars, right.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
So so my thought.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
And theory is like, well, the amount of money you
saved on that gas you're going it goes right to
replacing a hybrid battery.

Speaker 8 (30:19):
So, yeah, which which leaves the larger footprint than any
kind of like drilling whatever. Absolutely they make these these
batteries take up so much of the environment. Oh, I know, unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Well, and then I talked about that, I think it
was last week about you know, the electric cars and
the Teslas and whatnot, and all these electric cars that
are out here and all the battery all the mining
you have to do to get this the you know,
these batteries manufactured. And then guess what, We're gonna have
a major problem because nobody is really having the conversation.
How are we gonna get rid of these batteries? What

(30:52):
are we gonna do? You know, We're gonna you know,
so it's gonna be a big problem. I mean, all
these Teslas are going to We're gonna get to a
point where there's thirty forty fifty thousand Tesla batteries sitting
in some you know yard or something, and that that
thing catches on fire and we'll have ourselves in a

(31:12):
massive So.

Speaker 8 (31:15):
I'm just no way to recycle them.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
No, no, So I'm not a big well not a
big fan.

Speaker 8 (31:23):
I'll never do it again, Oh my gosh. Never. I'm
so thankful for your service.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Hey, I've got an.

Speaker 8 (31:29):
Offer here to fifty five krcy tell you. And there
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Speaker 3 (31:38):
That I appreciate that man, I really do so Dan,
you guys are awesome. Thanks Dan, I appreciate it. Man.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
You know that makes me, you know, it makes me
feel good.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
You know that's I come in here every Saturday, you know,
from one to two that come here and answer and
help you, uh and guide you through your you know,
through your car problems. Right maybe it's it might be
purchasing a vehicle, or buying a newsed vehicle, or fixing
the one that you have.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
You know, I a lot of saturdays.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
I miss, you know, my kids baseball games or basketball
games or football games because I'm here, uh.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
For two reasons.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
One to help you fix your car and guide you
and give you the best advice that I possibly can.
And and second of all, I love what I do.
I've you know, as long as I can remember. You know,
I come from a third generation family of owners and
Donovan tire. My grandfather started it, my uncle and my

(32:38):
dad took it over my cousin and I took it
from them, and I since I was as long as
I can remember, this is what I wanted to do.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
And uh, I enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
I love it is every day perfect and and uh
we're you know, it's Mayberry. No, but I can't imagine
myself doing anything else, and I want to pass on
my knowledge and help people out and get their cars
fixed as best as I can so they can get
onto another task, right something you know that is, you know,

(33:13):
a family issue or getting to work or being able
to see their kids play at the game or whatnot.
So that's why I'm here. This is why I do it.
I love what I do, and I want to help you.
I want to help you guys out. So all right again,
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Speaker 1 (34:15):
You're listening to the Car Show on fifty five KRC.
I'm Dane Donovan.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
I'm Donovan's Auto entire Center and here every Saturday to
take your car question.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
So we're going to run out of time, so we've
got two calls here.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
I want to get to the phones. Let's go to Donnie. Hey, Donnie,
welcome to the car show.

Speaker 5 (34:30):
How can I help Hi, sir? I have an seven
Honda Odyssey approaching two hundred and sixty nine thousand miles.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Wow, good for you.

Speaker 5 (34:40):
When well, she's a wonderful car man. She's been strong.
When it starts cold, I get a groaning noise out
of the engine bay that buries as I've turned the
turn bay steering wheel. Yes, I'm in my seventies on
fixed income, and I don't want to just throw parts
at it, so I wanted to if you could help

(35:00):
me diagnose definitively that the power steering pump.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
No.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
So here's here's what I want you to do. I
don't want you to replace the pump yet. There's an
inlet and an outlet O ring. Okay, so you've got
you replaced them both.

Speaker 5 (35:17):
And a power steering hose already.

Speaker 8 (35:19):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
So you did the pressure hose and you did both
O rings and it's still grown in. Yes, Okay, is
it bubbling like when you started up? If you take
the cap off the reservoir? Is is the the power steering?
Is the fluid bubbling.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Up at all?

Speaker 7 (35:35):
You know?

Speaker 5 (35:35):
I haven't noticed that, so okay, I know the fluid level,
it's fine, Okay.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Fluid levels fine.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
And so typically when those O rings go bad, the
fluid itself will bubble up. But if you've replaced them
and the fluid itself is not bubbling up, and you've
replaced the pressure line in both O rings, then uh,
the only thing left is the pump.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
I've never seen a rack calls a whining noise. I've
seen a powasteering rack opinion cause a stiffness in turning
the wheel. But you're not experiencing that correct, you're just
getting a grown. When the car is warmed up, does
that groan come down a little bit or does it
stay the.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Same it goes away? Okay, yeah, so and here.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
And so the pump's just probably so the you know,
when that fluid is cold, the viscosity, the thickness of
it is, it's a lot thicker, right, and then once
the car warms up it's nice and hot, that fluid
gets thinner, so it's less for the pump to have
to pump that fluid. So it sounds like you've covered
all your bases. The only thing is it's gonna need
a pump.

Speaker 5 (36:42):
Was one green friend of mine told me that there's
a filter at the bottom of the reservoir and I
was winning with the second viscosity. If that could hinder
the flow of the fluid when it's.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Cold, um, you know, I'm sure has a screen in it,
but I've never seen one cause a pya steering age,
I've never seen one.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
I've never replaced the reservoir on a Honda ever.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
Now, just because I haven't seen it or I've never
done it, doesn't mean it can't happen. I mean, you
could probably take there if you wanted to, you can
probably take the reservoir out and clean that screen. You
could try that before you replace the pump. I mean,
has the pump ever been replaced?

Speaker 5 (37:28):
Well, not since I've owned it. I'm the second owner.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Okay, all right, I mean it's worth the shot.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
I mean if you take that to take the reservoir off,
is gonna take you know, fifteen to twenty minutes.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
You know, it's gonna make a mask. But you know,
take the reservoir.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
You know, if you could try to suck out as
much of that fluid as you could, take that reservoir
out and try to clean that screen at the bottom.
You could try that. It's worth a shot. And if
it's if it doesn't change, it's it's got to be
the pump. Okay, sir, all right, take care, bye bye.
All right, let's go back to the phones. We've got Wayne. Hey, Wayne,
welcome to the car show.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
How can I help?

Speaker 7 (38:02):
Oh? Thank you, Dane.

Speaker 8 (38:05):
I got a twenty eighteen Optimus and every fill up
I have to put uh, not a half aport in,
but quarter of a coort of oil.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
And I didn't know if they had a recall on
oil consumption.

Speaker 8 (38:19):
If you got fifty thousand miles.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
All that was a one hundred thousand wards.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
Yes, so I understand got through a rod or a main.

Speaker 5 (38:27):
Barry before they'll replace that boat.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Well, yeah, pretty much. I mean, so here's what I
want you to do.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
I want you to schedule it with your local Kia dealer.
And what I want you to do when you schedule it,
you say, hey, listen, I would like to I'd like
to schedule appointment for an oil consumption test.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Right, So what the what they'll do is will.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
Go in, they'll change the oil, they cap off the
dipstick in the you know, the oil cap itself, and
they'll do an oil consumption test, will tell you to
bring it back in one thousand miles, they'll reassess it
and whatnot. But it is I have been led to
believe that basically Hyundai and Kia we're pretty much the same.

(39:08):
Manu fact, there's same. Basically they're not doing anything until
the thing locks up. And over the summer I had one.
I had a customer that had one locked up and
he was number ninety eight in line to get an
engine replaced, number ninety eight. I mean, it's taken months
and months to put an engine in that car. I mean,

(39:28):
but they're they're honoring it, they're replacing them. But what
I would say is get it on the books, go
to the dealer. Get that way it's in your history that, yes,
you know you have an oil consumption issue.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Get it on the books that.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
Yesterday brought it into the dealer, And basically it gives
you a little bit more leverage. So if you're you know,
I would I would, you know, I would do it
several times, you know, over a course of a year
or two.

Speaker 8 (39:57):
Yeah, I have them tested at each time or change
your work.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
Yes, I need an oil consumption test done, and that
way it's on there. So if you ever do get
out of warranty and it locks up and they're like, hey,
you're out a warranty. Sorry, I can't do anything for you.
And so hey, listen, I was here multiple times, yeah,
telling you, showing you that this thing is burning oil.
But I think I think it's I think it's up

(40:20):
to one hundred and fifty thousand miles that they're covering
these engines, so oh really, I'm almost certain it's one
hundred and fifty thousand miles.

Speaker 8 (40:30):
I love the car, I mean I love it. Yeah,
good on gas.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
I mean it handles graded.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Yeah, that's a huge problem.

Speaker 8 (40:38):
Actually I got two of them. I got a two
thousand and four.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Yeah, I mean, oil consumption is a huge problem.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
That kind of goes back to what I was talking
about getting the oil change regularly, because he's you know,
if you if your car, if your car is burning
a quart of oil every three thousand miles and you
go ten and these cars are only holding four courts
by the time you get in for an oil change.
If you even bring it in at ten and that
twelve or fifteen thousand miles, the cars don't have any
oil on them in a chain stretch, and.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
It causes massive It's a huge domino effect. Yeah, you know,
I'm not.

Speaker 4 (41:08):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
I'm not paid by any oil companies. I'm not.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
I'm not. You know, I'm just telling you every single
car that comes, just about every single car's got an
oil problem. It's because he sings to burn and oil.
So yeah, get it, get it to the dealer and
do an oil consumption test.

Speaker 8 (41:24):
Okay, great, great, I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
All right, he man have a great weekend. Appreciate the
phone call. The moral of the story.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
I'm gonna talk about it next Saturday and the following
Saturday and the following Saturday.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Please, if you're out there, you're listening to me.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
If you're driving a vehicle five thousand miles on an
oil change, that's it period. If anybody would love to
call me and and prove me wrong, please feel free.
You can't do it today, call me next Saturday. But
I'm telling you it's it's a huge problem, and I
want you to be aware that is important and imperative

(41:58):
that the oil gets changed every five thousand miles. Do
that your car will last you three hundred thousand miles.
So also again, if you know I am, we are
hiring technicians. If you know anybody, please send them my way.
You can go to Dane at Donovantire dot com or

(42:19):
call me at Donovan. You go Donovtire dot com. I'm
at Donovan's Auto fourn and give me a call. And
love to hear from anybody that's looking for a technical
or technician looking for a job.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
So really do appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
So I will be back next Saturday to answer all
of your questions. And everybody tomorrow enjoy the Super Bowl.
We already know who's gonna win. But anyways, I'm not
even gonna get on that topic. But hey, everybody, have
a great and safe weekend. I'll be back next Saturday
to answer all of your car questions. I'm Dane Donovan
from Donovan's Auto entire Center. You're listening to the car

(42:52):
show on fifty five KRC, the talk station and and

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and and

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