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March 22, 2026 44 mins

Dane Donovan tackles the challenges of resurrecting old cars. He shares a personal story about a customer who tried to revive an eighty-five Mazda RX, highlighting the importance of inspecting a vehicle before purchasing. Dane also discusses the risks of leaving cars parked outside, where they can be damaged by rodents and moisture. He advises listeners to drive their vehicles regularly or store them in a garage to prevent costly repairs. Dane takes calls from listeners, offering expert advice on car maintenance and repair.

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
With a four ball car when a due look soft.
Good afternoon, and welcome to the car show.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
I am Dane Donovan here to answer all of your
car questions. The number to call five one three seven
four nine fifty five hundred. That number again, five one
three seven four nine fifty five hundred, and yes, I
am in studio.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Would love to hear you, hear from you.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
It is a beautiful Saturday afternoon. Finally the sun has
come out in Cincinnati, and uh man, I had the
windows down listening to some music and it was it
was great. Now, Uh my gaslight was well, it wasn't on.
I typically it's not really good to get your gas light.

(00:58):
And I was getting close to Deacon gas was about
like one hundred and sixty miles before I need a gas.
But uh there's a gas station right across the street
from the studio and I filled up. And now I
do have a diesel truck and I paid. It was
I hate to save five twenty nine a gallon for diesel. Oh,
five twenty nine that hurt. That was painful, and uh

(01:21):
so hopefully it's it. Hopefully it's just temporary and we
can get through this. And uh, I'm supposed to fly
to Houston here in a couple of weeks and hopefully
they get these things figured out. So uh, because they're saying, like,
you know, the lines for TSA are three four hours.
I'll probably just pack up and just go home. I'm

(01:43):
not waiting four hours for to get through TSA.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Ah. So man, what what a challenge. But hopefully it's temporary.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
We can get back to get back to our daily lives,
you know, because that that hurts so but again, I'm
taking your phone calls in studio today. Love to hear
from you again. The number to call five one, three, seven,
four nine fifty five hundred. It was a very busy week.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
We hate uh.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
We had Saint Patrick's Day on Tuesday, right, hope everybody
had a good time, but was you know responsible and
we ran into some busy Uh. You know, it's been
it's been a little hit or miss. You know, some
days we're some days we're a little busy and then

(02:31):
other days were not and and you know we we
uh for some reason. And you know, again I've been
doing this for twenty six years, and you know we
were able to make it through our repair shops were
able to make it through the two thousand and eight
financial crisis, right and we were able to make it
through the global pandemic, and now we're everybody's kind of

(02:54):
getting the pinch right now as well. And you know,
we typically we'll see, you know, obviously people aren't going
to go out and buy new cars at this current
moment because there's there's there's a lot of uncertainty. But
what in the in those three you know, again this

(03:14):
week and then you know the you know, the global
pandemic and the financial crisis. What I see all I
had started this week and I'm like, I'm not looking
forward to this, but I had several vehicles towed to
us that people were trying to resurrect. So I see
this all the time where people are like, Hey, I
don't want to go out buy a new car, but

(03:39):
I'm just gonna this car that's been sitting in my
driveway for years. I'm going to try to get it
going and and and start driving it. And I'm here
to tell you don't waste your time or money. I
had one towed into my one of my shops just
yesterday and got it towed in and was like, oh yeah,
the toad guy said it might have some type of

(04:02):
squirrel or mouse infestation. And I'm like, oh, this doesn't
sound good. So uh, he goes it's been sitting for
quite some time, and we pop the hood and that
the entire underneath the hood, the entire engine bay was
covered in leaves, in debris and acorns and massive infestation.

(04:25):
And you know the car is, you know, roughly twenty
to twenty three years old. It's white, but you wouldn't
know it because it's just it's all just from sitting
underneath a tree, just a massive and and and there's

(04:45):
already wires you can already see just just from popping
the hood, you can see wires all chewed up and
and you know it's unfortunate. But the problem is, and
it's I understand that, you know, you might want to
try to get these things back out on the road.
But look, I'm here to say, if you have a
car that's been sitting outside for years or even sometimes

(05:10):
sometimes it can even be months, you know, there can
be significant damage done to that vehicle. Right, So if
you have access to a garage, now I understand that,
you know, we always have you know, I have two
cars in my garage, right, but you know there's a
lot of stuff in there as well, with three boys
and scooters and bikes and yard equipment or whatnot. But

(05:32):
if you have an extra vehicle and you can put
it in your garage, please do so, because it especially
parking them underneath trees and whatnot.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
You know, you're essentially, you know, sending it to a
shop that.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
I mean, it's you. You just don't know the extent of
the damage. And again, even though it may have low
miles right, the moisture from the ground will still rust
out the brake lines, rust out the exhaust, and do
significant damage to the vehicle.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
If you have a car that's I don't care.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
It could be twenty years old and only have ten
thousand miles on it and he's like, oh, that's a
great car if it's been sitting outside that entire time,
it's not. It's going to be a rusted mess and
you can't get part for it. And it's a it
is a safety concern, you know. And the problem is is,
you know, even if I get this particular vehicle running right,

(06:34):
most likely he's going to drive out of there and
one of the brake lines is going to blow because
it's been sitting for so long, and it's just you know,
and I want to give I want to fix everybody's car,
but you know, sometimes these things can be just lost causes.
And I don't ever ever want to waste anybody's money.
And we want to make sure that your car is safe,

(06:57):
can be out on the road, and we can get
you back up. And and but you know, again during
these troubled times and everybody's kind of feeling the pinch, right,
the groceries are expensive, the gas is expensive. We're you know,
a lot of the were going on spring break, so
we want to try to cut corners. But if you
have a car that's been sitting, if you have a

(07:20):
car that's you know, i'd probably say ten years are older,
and it's been sitting for a year or plus, I
would highly recommend that you try not to get that
thing started and get it back out on the road. Now,
if it's been sitting in a garage and you've started
it and maintained it, that's a different circumstance. But if

(07:41):
it's been sitting outside, not been run, not been driven
for years, I mean, and then I had a second
vehicle that was towed to me. I think actually yesterday
as well. I mean the tires are blown out there,
the tires are eleven years old, they're all flat. Uh

(08:04):
car won't start it again, has rodent damage. You know,
these these things are it becomes again. It's a very
very challenging part of what we do because again we
do our job is to fix cars. But sometimes you're
you're you're bringing me a car that is is an
open checkbook. You know, I could start with, hey, we

(08:24):
need to do a B and C and it's gonna
be you know, I mean the BMW right out, just
putting putting four tires and putting a battery in it.
Right there, We're almost at two thousand dollars and I
can't even tell you, I can't even promise you that
it's gonna start, it's gonna run. It's been sitting for
over a year. Tags have been expired for over a year.

(08:46):
And you know, I you know, that's two thousand dollars
and that's just to pull it into the bay and
then you know, any anything else that's going on with it.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
You know.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
So I understand I think people are getting, you know,
feeling that pinch. I get it, But in my personal
professional opinion. I if you have a vehicle that's been
sitting for years or a year outside has been ran
I would not advise you to try to resurrect that

(09:18):
thing and put it back out on the road. It's
a safety concern for you and your family. It's a
safety concern for other drivers out there as well. And
again a lot of times, you know, I would I
as a business owner too, Yes I want to fix
these cars, but I don't want to spend two thousand
dollars or this, this, this young lady's car, or of
money and then turn around and go, hey, look it's

(09:40):
going to need another three thousand.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
You know, so you know, do your due diligence.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
If you have a car that you don't necessarily always drive,
if you can be in a garage, great, But even
you know a lot of people, well I'll just throw
a car cover over it. That doesn't do it. That
that is useless simply because the squirrels and the rodents
and the mic can still crawl up underneath it, and
it's still exposed to moisture, and it's still exposed to
the elements. Right, So a car carver doesn't do you

(10:09):
any good. So just just think about that. I know
again it you know, we're feeling the pinch, but we
you know, it's not advisable to try to get these
things back up and running. It is just it's a
lost cause. And I never ever want to do that
to a customer. I don't want to spend people's money,
and you know that unfortunately, you know, if I spend

(10:31):
this young lady's two thousand dollars and the car still
you know, needs thousands more, it's just a bad situation.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
Right.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
So she's upset because she's spent two thousand and she
doesn't have a working car. I'm upset because we've just
spent two thousand dollars and she still needs more, you know,
So do your best to make sure that if you
have a you know, it's always nice to have a
second car, but if you do drive it, you know,
I would say at least at least you need to

(10:59):
drive that once a week. If you have a second car,
once a week. If it's outside, that's fine, but drive
it that that's the best thing for it. These things
are not designed to just sit and be parked and
sit underneath a tree. That's not what they're That's not
what they're designed for. They gotta if I mean, even
if you could just you know, not necessarily drive it,

(11:19):
but just start it up and let it run. You know,
you gotta let it, you know, I mean, it would
be like if you if you laid in bed for
a year and then all of a sudden try to
run a marathon.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
It's not gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
And and and again you're gonna spend a tremendous amount
of money. And it essentially most of the time, most
of the time, and the twenty six years I've been
doing this, most of the time, when these vehicles come
to me, it's a lost cause. And it's never a
good combination for anybody, right because I don't want to
waste your money.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
I want to fix your car.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
But there's just so much uncertainty because when these things
are parked and they're they're not being used, a lot
of things break. And then even if in a good
particular situation where I can get it started and I
can't get it fixed, well, all the gaskets in that car,
you know, they they they're not working anymore, right, So

(12:12):
gaskets get hot cold, hot cold, they get brittle, and
then they stop doing their job. So then you start
leaking oil, you start leaking coolant. You got to pressurized
coolant system. So you know, if you've got a second car,
please drive it, don't just leave it parked. And please
don't leave it under a tree if you can. If
it sits outside, at least leave it exposed to some

(12:35):
of the sun and not underneath the tree. Underneath the
tree is the worst. So all right again, taking your
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Speaker 1 (13:36):
Taking your car questions again.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Then I'm gonna call five one three fifty five hundred.
And I was not looking at the screen talking about,
you know, resurrecting old cars. In my first question here
is for Tom. He's trying to restore an eighty five
mas to RX. So, Tom, welcome to the show. How
can I help.

Speaker 6 (13:58):
I'll tell you what I first heard you talking. I thought, damn,
that's me.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Well you know I did. I wouldn't even looking at
the screen.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
I'm talking, and and then I look at the first
questions like restoring eighty five Massa. I was like, oh, man,
well you know, here's the deal, and you know it's
it's if the car again. If restoring it is is
perfectly fine, if you're willing to invest the time and
the money. The problem is is again a lot of

(14:27):
these people try to resurrect the car and they went
there thinking, ah, you know, a couple hundred bucks, I'll
get this thing back up and running. And that's not
the case, especially when rodents get in there. I mean
I've had I've had customers where rodents totaled a car
and that.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
And I'm not talking an old car. I'm talking new cars.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
They get in there and they destroy harnesses and and
it's it's just kind of like it sometimes can be challenging.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Now again, if you've.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Got an older vehicle in the sense of, hey that
if that eighty five Mazda was garage capped, it runs
and drives or whatnot. But if it was in a
junk yard, I think you might be up against a
little bit of a challenge.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Right, how long have you.

Speaker 6 (15:08):
Had the vehicle has been in a garage, It hasn't
been driven in quite a long time. What I was
planning to do, no matter what is uh, and I've
done this before, is put a new motor in and
then you know, I figured I'll go up to you know,
ten thousand. If if that doesn't do it, then I'll

(15:29):
stop because I'm a hard head.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yeah, well, I mean is it that eighty it's that
the Mazda is the rotary.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Engine, yes, yes, all right, okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
They well I mean, and here's what you get up
against too, is finding sometimes finding parts. Were you able
to find an engine?

Speaker 6 (15:52):
I know exactly where one is. And actually it's a
company that does a couple of companies that you re manufactured.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Okay, all right, good?

Speaker 6 (16:02):
Pretty unique?

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah, no, it is, it absolutely is.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
And uh you know, you know, and again it's one
of those things where when you're when you're when you're
doing this, you know, sometimes a lot of people do
it for sentimental values. Right, It's like, hey, it was
my dad's or it was my uncles or my brothers
or my mom's whatever.

Speaker 6 (16:25):
Right again, huh you again, that's that's.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Why I'm going to do it.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Okay, all right, Okay, and and and and and again
that's I mean, that's what a lot of us will
do that for sentimental fact or maybe it's like, hey,
you know what, uh you know, it was my first
car I ever owned, and you know I want to
buy another one and restore it. Right, And that's and
that's great. I'm not against that, right because we all

(16:54):
have you know, we all have that, right, I mean,
not all have, but some people don't have sentimental value,
but some people do. All I want to do is
bring attention to the fact that, hey, look, you know,
so many people bring me these older cars that they
don't they're not attached to, they don't have sentimental value, right,

(17:14):
and they think a couple hundred bucks and we'll get
it up and run. And it's like, man, it's it's
it's just not like that. Now, something like this. If
you dive in, understand that, hey, look, you know, sometimes
you just have to keep your check book open because
it can it can get pricey. But again, if you're
all in and you know that's what you want, I mean,

(17:35):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
With it being an eighty five, it's gonna be.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
This is a little bit of a unique situation, right,
But like that super I mean, it's twenty five years old,
it's been parked, and they guy don't have any sentimental value.
He's just trying to get it up and running, and
it's like, man, it's it's you know, so you know,
I get it. In fact, I came here on my
way here, Uh, my dream car is a two thousand

(17:59):
and three three Ferrari three sixty medina. I mean that's
my dream car. And guy was parked right next to
me on the way here to the studio right.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
And you know they're there.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
They're still extremely expensive, but it would be something that
I would be willing to spend the money on. And
but uh, you know, everybody has different standards on what
they want. I just want people to understand that, you know, challenge.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
You know.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
In fact, right before I came here, I was picking
up I have six oak trees in my yard and
those things are dropping sticks, like especially as Wendy's it's been,
I had sticks everywhere. So I'm picking up sticks, and
my neighbors like, hey, he walks oever he goes, Hey,
I've got a you know, a brother of mine that
lives in the I think Milwaukee, and so he's got

(18:48):
a twenty seventeen Dodge Ram and it needs a module
and they they Dodge doesn't have one. You can't get one.
What are your thoughts? And I'm like, well, you know,
there's there's options. There's there are people out there that
can rebuild them. There are people out there that you know,
you can maybe find a used one, or there's a
local company here in Cincinnati that I potentially he may

(19:08):
have one for. But and I told me, He's like, man,
it's it's you know it's it's a twenty seventeen and
Dodge hasn't been able to make the part or replace
the part in ten years. And I'm like, yeah, And
I told him, I said, I see it earlier and
earlier and earlier and more and more frequent. I mean,
I've got cars that are two three years old, and

(19:30):
you know, especially after COVID, you still can't get parts
on cars. They can't keep up with demand because these
things are failing left and right. So be patient, and
I want to hear about this thing.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Send me some pictures, Okay, we'll.

Speaker 6 (19:44):
Do, And actually be just to ask, as a final question,
if I brought it over, would you be able to
look at and just say, you know, this is hopeless
or this is going to cost you twenty thousand? Absolutely,
it just just a bad part, just to know, you know,
kind of totter it.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yeah, I'd love to give you my opinion and and
tell you right correct if it's a lost cause or not.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
I'd love to do that.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
In fact, I enjoy doing that because I again, yes,
my job is to fix cars and work on cars,
but my job is also to give you an honest opinion, right.
I wouldn't want my doctor. I wouldn't want to go
to my doctor and just go hey doc, you think
I'm gonna be all right? You know, give me your
you know, I want your opinion, you know what I mean,
And that's what I'm here for, and that's you know,

(20:29):
so I absolutely yeah, love to I'd love to help
you out.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
And you said it hasn't ran in year.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
So probably have to get it towed and we'll probably
have to push it in and get it up on
the lift and and yep, I I'd be happy to
do that for you.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Not a problem at all.

Speaker 6 (20:45):
Outstanding, outstanding, Thank you sir.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
That'd be great, Thank you so much, Thank you, Dan.
All right, take care, by bye. You know, I you
know again doing this for twenty six years, I do
a lot of people, especially with our business and what
we do for our customers and whatnot, take pride in
what we do. Are we perfect in every aspect of

(21:14):
the business, No, you know, sometimes we're all human rights.
Some things happen, we make mistakes, you know, but we
always correct them or at least give me the opportunity
to correct them. But I truly do a lot of
people respect our opinion and everybody you know, and again,
everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but seeing what

(21:34):
I see on a daily basis, a lot of people
look forward to or at least want to get an opinion,
and I like to give them and say, hey, listen.
I mean there's a lot of times where people buy cars,
and that's the and we've talked about this on the show.
When you're buying a used car, especially as expensive as
they are, you want to get an opinion, right. You

(21:55):
know we're buying You know, none of us would go
and buy a house and not have it inspected, right, right.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
And you know, of course house prices are through the roof, right.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
But I mean when I when I bought my first house,
I paid I think I paid one hundred and fifty
thousand for it, right when I was twenty one. I
was twenty one years old bought my first house. I
think the average life or the average age of somebody
who's buying a house stays like forty or forty five
or something like that. But I was twenty one when
I bought my first house. It was one hundred and
fifty thousand. It was a lot for me at that age,

(22:27):
but I still had it inspected. Right, some of these
cars nowadays brand new. You know, a new Cadillac Escalade
is over one hundred thousand dollars right, even used. You know,
I bought my wife's car. It was it was five
years old, with one hundred thousand miles on it. I
still paid almost fifty grand, you know, So you want

(22:50):
to make sure that you get that inspected. You take
it to your mechanic, you have it inspected. Protect your investment.
I understand it's a depreciating asset. It's going to go
down and value, but you still want to make sure
that you're not buying somebody else's problems. I can't tell
you how many times people you know, you know, you
get one hundred thousand mile car and you take it

(23:11):
to the dealer and they're like, oh, you need five
thousand dollars worth work, and people would be Sometimes people go,
you know what, I'll just trade it in and uh,
I'll get a new one.

Speaker 7 (23:19):
Right.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
People have that.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Some people have that financial stability that they can do that,
and that's great, but then what they what do they
do a lot of people think that they'd put it
right back on the lot. No, they sell it to
a an auction and auction is it off, somebody else
buys it, and then you end up buying it, and
then you end up just buying somebody else's problems. So
if you're going to buy used vehicle, make sure that

(23:41):
you get it inspected by somebody. A reputable shop doesn't
have to always be Donovan's, because that might always not
be the case. You might find one that's down in Florida.
Find a shop down in Florida and have it inspected.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
You know.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Unfortunately, I know, we got to take a break. But
you know, I had a young lady who bought a
vehicle from a buy here, pay here, you a lot
on Thursday. She spent an absorbing amount of money and
and unfortunately, she was swindled big time in my opinion.
And she's, you know, she's like, I'm twenty years old.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
I don't know what to do.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
You know, I bought this car. It's ragged, nothing works
on it, and now you know, I'm in this. You know,
she didn't have any credit and she's in a pickle.
And I felt really bad for her, but you know,
and then and then she traded her car in and
then was responsible to repair what was wrong with the

(24:34):
car that she traded in and then gets a car that,
in my opinion, was in worse condition, and now she's
on the hook for this massive you know, and it's
it's unfortunate.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
I hate to see things like that.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
And had we been able to physically look at the
car before she purchased it, I would have been able
to save her. But you know, so just make sure
that when you're buying these cars you get them inspected.
I don't care if it's two years old or twenty
years old. Get them inspected. It's important. So all right again,
taking your phone calls the number call five one, three, seven,
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(25:11):
Charlie and Donnie. You're listening to the Car Show on
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(25:33):
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Speaker 1 (25:57):
Taking your car questions.

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The number call five one three fifty five hundred, patiently waiting.
We have Michael on the phone. Hey, Michael, welcome to
the car show. How can I help?

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Yeah, So we've got a twenty thirteen Sevy Cruise and
it's already stumped a couple of mechanics. So doing sixty
miles an hour on the highway and it just falls.
I mean it's fall as like you would have thought
somebody just turned the key off. Well, the first time,
we just replaced the relay and it came it started
back on. We got fifty miles out of it. The

(26:29):
second time, we took it to a mechanic and he
pulled the coil pack out of it just to see
if it was getting a spark, and it was, so
he ended up not doing anything to it. He just
put it back in and it started up again. Well
that time we got about two hundred miles out of it,
and then it finally stalled again. We replaced the coil

(26:50):
pack and the spark plugs, and since then it has
stalled three times and all every time I get out
and I wiggled the little plastic connector and it comes
back on. But my dad took a look at the
car and he says that the it's got a good
connection there. It's nice and tight and strong. So what

(27:10):
do you recommend you?

Speaker 1 (27:13):
I'm sorry, I what connector are you messing with?

Speaker 3 (27:17):
Or so the coil pack the hardest. The female clip
that clips onto the coil pack a coil pack.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
So hmm, okay, so you all you do is unplug
it and plug it back in and it's it starts
right back up.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
But my dad looked at it, and you know, he's
familiar with these things, and he he does not believe
that it's a bad clip. Like, it's got a strong connection.
It looks good and cleaned. It doesn't have any rusts
or any build up, nothing like that. So we're wondering,
if you know, if you had any good idea.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
So Okay, so as of right now, the only thing
that you've replaced is the coil pack.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
Right when we took it to the mechanic the second
time that it's stalled, he was going to teck and
see if it got a spark. So he pulled the
coil pack and found that it was getting a good spark,
and he just put it back in. It just started up.
So he recommended to us, He said, you could replace
the corepack and it might help it, it might not. Well,
we did that. We did that, and we thought it

(28:21):
fixed it because that time we got about two hundred
miles out of it. Well, about the time that we
started thinking it was fixed, here it comes again. So
it stalled again. And then just because of the work
that he did on the car, it made me think,
you know, unplug it, plug it back in, and three
times it's worked since then. I don't imagine you're going

(28:43):
to get that off.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Too many times though, No, no, I mean, you know,
and when it stalls, I'm assuming you just coast, like
if you're going fifty, you said you're going fifty in
order to stall, well, I.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
Mean on the highway, yeah, coast the whole time, I'll
throw it in neutral and the whole time I'm coasting,
I try to start it back.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Up, and is it cranking?

Speaker 3 (29:06):
Does it? Yeah? It cranks it. It literally just sounds
like I mean, I guess it sounds like it wouldn't
have gas or something like it. It cranked over fine,
It's got plenty of battery power. It cranks fine. It
just won't do nothing.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Okay, So all right? And then when does does it?
Will it stall?

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Ever? When the engine itself is cold? Not necessarily like
thirty degrees cord. I'm just saying, like, if it's been
sitting all night, will it fire up every time? It's
just does it? Does it stall or quit? When the
engine is hot like normal temperature.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
Like you know, uh, it's never done it when it
was cold? Okay, all right, So what I I mean
when you when you when you remove that connector and
connect it back, it's a difference of night and day.
It starts up one hundred percent normal. But I'm telling
you if you looked at this connector, it looks it's
in perfect condition.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Well yeah, I mean, you know, a couple of things,
so we we could be dealing with it could be
you know, a computer issue again, and maybe when you
mess with that connector you know, it's a continuity issue, right.
Continuity continuity is you want to make sure that you

(30:21):
have a good you know, signal that's coming from the
computer to that wiring harness. Right, Sometimes they'll break off somewhere,
so when you're wiggling it, when you're messing with it,
it then makes a good connection.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
So we could be.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Dealing with possibly potentially not necessarily completely severed or broken wire,
but a connection issue. And then when you go to
mess with it, you're you're you're essentially you know, causing that.
You know, you're it's just like kind of like a
light bulb when you kind of smack it and all
of a sudden it starts working.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
So we could be dealing with the continuity issue.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Uh. I do know that the a lot of times
crank sensor, you said, your mechanic did say that it
has good sparks, So usually if a crank sensor has
an issue, you know it's not gonna you know.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
And we also we also check the fuel pressure, so
it's getting plenty of fuel pressure and getting plenty of spark.
And then my dad, my dad was saying something like
how you say you wiggle it. He was saying, maybe
it reseets a relay or something, and he wanted to know,
do you think it's a good ideal to maybe replace
the relay.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
No, I don't think it's a relay issue. I wouldn't
think it's a relay issue. Messing with that connector. I
don't think it's gonna make that relay. Do you think
it clicked back to I think it's.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
A coincidence that all three times I went back to
that connector and it's all three times it worked. It's
got to be something that.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
I mean, yeah, if it like happened once, maybe, but yeah,
three times leads me to believe that we may have
potentially again. You said there's no green corrosion or anything
like that in the connector. The connector looks good. It
snaps in, so I would yeah, here's obviously without looking

(32:07):
at it. I think crank sensors are very, very common
on those vehicles. We replaced a lot of crank sensors
on those. And again, if the car doesn't know where
the crank position is, it's gonna stall the car. And
they're always gonna they get hot. When they get hot,
they quit working. And the car goes, wait a minute,
we don't have I'm assuming you don't have a check

(32:29):
engine light or any codes.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Correct.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
I was getting ready to ask, do you think that's
a code that it would throw if I went up
and got it scanned?

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Not? Not always, not always, So I think it'd be
worth trying, because sometimes it'll it may not flag it,
but it could be stored in memory.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Where there was a crank sensor issue.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Crank sensors are notorious to quit working when they get hot.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Notorious any car.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
They get hot and they quit, and then the car
doesn't know what the crank position is and boom shuts
the car off off and then you know it.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Could be coincidental.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
I mean, the fact that it happened three times leads
me to believe it's probably not a crank sensor. But
you know, by you jiggling those wires again, we might
have a continuity issue where again you're getting a probe
out and you're you're checking continuity and you're making sure
that you're getting a signal out of the computer to
the connector, and if you don't have good continuity, then

(33:24):
obviously you've got a broken wire. And then you're pulling
that wire loom off, and then you're trying to find
that broken wire. But if I were you, before we
go into all of that, I would replace the crank sensor.
I want you to start there because if you've got
good fuel pressure. Now again, typically if a crank sensor,
I just I want you to rule that out. Crank

(33:45):
sensors are cheap, they're easy to put in there. But
what I'd recommend is make sure you buy one from
the dealer or AC delco.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Or or del Fi. Right, don't buy we don't buy.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Yeah, don't buy anything on eBay or anything like that,
or a standard or anything like that.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Not knocking that product.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
That just a.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Yeah you can.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
It's something that you can do at home. They're down obviously,
it's down by the crank sensor. You usually just got
to pull the wheel off or so I want you
to start there first. Obviously, when you have that off,
check the connector there as well, because again you could
have green corrosion at the connector and and and you
know the sensor itself is not necessarily bad, but try

(34:30):
that first because if you've got good fuel pressure, because
again fuel pumps too will quit when they get hot.
But if you've got good fuel pressure, then you know,
I think you need to start with a crank sensor.
That would be the next thing I do before we
go into computers and continuity and and digging into that.
You know, need on a haystack. So try a crank
sensor and then call me back. All right, it sounds good,

(34:51):
all right, Thank you very much, have a great day.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
But yes, sir, yep, take care bye bye.

Speaker 7 (34:56):
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Speaker 2 (35:41):
Going back to the phones, patiently waiting as Charlie and Donnie.
We're gonna go to Charlie, Charlie, welcome to the car show.
How can I help?

Speaker 7 (35:50):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Hi, Dane, Hey, thank you so much for waiting. I
do appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Oh, that's fine.

Speaker 7 (35:55):
I have a twenty twenty six Honda CRB and I'm
just gonna quick question, when should I have the first
oil change done?

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Great question? All right.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
So I recently again had the opportunity to buy my
first new vehicle at the age of forty, and I
talked to I bought a Ford, and I talked to
one of our employees that worked for us, that worked
for Ford for thirty years, and I said, hey, look,
you know, I was always on the oppression under the

(36:26):
impression that you should change it, you know, right away,
because there's my metal and break in and so and
so forth. But they, well I found is that they
put a special additive in there to help break in
on the engine.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Right.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
So I when I purchased my vehicle, I changed the
oil at five thousand miles now again he says that
there is an additive. Now, I don't know if every
make and model does that, but uh.

Speaker 7 (36:53):
I think Honda has something. I'm not positive.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Yeah, I you know.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
I again, I mean when I bought my truck, they
were like, oh, you know, change it every fifteen thousand miles,
which I'm like, h not gonna happen. I just I
think it's the most important thing to do for your
vehicle what I would recommend. And again he said there
there again, there is an additive that does help the
break in process. And on my truck, I changed the

(37:23):
oil at around just roughly at five thousand miles, just
a little over, because he says that additive they put
in there for the first time does help with the
break in. So I would go five. I would not
go based upon you know, the oil life. I know
that Honda has the oil life.

Speaker 7 (37:41):
And yeah, they're saying like ten percent or twelve months.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Yeah, ten percent. Yeah, I and I.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
That I would not do that. I just I never
it's it cannot hurt the vehicle to change it prematurely
and early. I just if I were you, like I said,
last year, I bought my first new vehicle, I changed
it at five thousand miles. Now I understand that I
have a different perspective or I have a different opportunity

(38:12):
where I can change it myself. Right, But I'm telling you,
you want to get the best life out of your car,
I would change it at five. I would not focus
on oil life. I would focus on that little sticker
they put in your window and change it every five
thousand miles. That's you know, five six thousand is where
I'm happy. I've seen too many engine problems and issues

(38:35):
down the road by going to you know, you should
not be changing well once a year.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
It's it's too hard on the engine. So I changed
it at five.

Speaker 7 (38:44):
That's what I thought I saw. Boy a year, that's
a long long time.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
Okay, yep, all right, great question. Thank you so much.
You have a great day. Enjoy the new car.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
So all right, let's go back to the phones we
have Donnie, Hey, Donnie, whatcome the car show?

Speaker 1 (39:00):
How can I help Hi?

Speaker 8 (39:03):
You've helped me in the past a couple of times.
I'm calling for some advice on my AC system which
is exhibiting low refrigerant characteristics.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Okay, all right, great, What is it something that you're
just having to constantly fill it up.

Speaker 8 (39:20):
Well, I don't haven't ever filled it now. When I
retired eleven years ago, I worked at the Green Shirt
car Parks store and met many mechanics who said, never
touched the refrigerant cans with stop leak.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Correct.

Speaker 8 (39:33):
So before I pay to have my car recharged, I'm thinking,
must be leaking somewhere. Do I need to have you
guys do a whole O ring replacement on all of
the connections.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
No, No, I wouldn't advise that. I mean that's going
to be too costly, too expensive what I would recommend.
So typically what we do in most repair shops. Now
you know that I just actually bought a new machine.
I think it was almost it was almost ten thousand dollars.
But what we typically do will we'll hook it up

(40:07):
and the machine will do its thing. It'll suck down
what any free ons in the system. So let's just say,
you know your system holds a pound of free on, right,
So our machine's gonna hook it up suck down what's
in there.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
So let's say we pull.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Half a pound out right, Okay, so it's half empty
and again freons of gas. Right, So there's no way
that you can like just check the level. You have
to hook it up to a machine. That's the proper
way to do it. And then what we do is then, okay,
you know, we put your half pound back in and
then we put the other half that you need in
in order to get it to operate. Now, what we
do again freons of gas and it's free on is

(40:42):
always under pressure. If your car is parked on the
side of the street, or you're driving it, or you're
using it, it's always under pressure no matter what.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
So it's gonna leak no matter if you know.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
It could be leaking as we speak, right, So what
we do then again because freons of gas, we and
then we don't know where it leaked out at.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
We don't know, you know.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
And a lot of these vehicles too have rear air, right,
so it could be lines going to the back. I
know on the Honda Odysseys that happens too. So what
we'll do is we'll do we will do we will
put in a fluorescent dye and then we typically will
have you come back, so we'll fill it back up.
We'll put that dye in there, we'll put it, we'll
put oil in there, too, because the compressor's a small

(41:23):
engine actually has pistons in it.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
We'll put an oil in there for the compressor.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
We'll put a fluorescent die and then fill it up
proper level, make sure it's all working, and then normally
we'll recommend that you come back in two weeks two
to three weeks.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
We don't charge you for that.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
We charge you for the free on to put that
in and that that whole system, and then we'll have
it bring it back in about two or three weeks.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
We don't charge you for that.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
We'll just get it back up in the air and
we'll blacklight the system and try to figure out where
that fluorescent dye is leaking at.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Right.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
So, but I wouldn't do a.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Whole receal because there it would be it would be
very very expensive and extensive and and I think you
would open up kind of a can of worm.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
So just get it done professionally. Yeah, please don't get it.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
I called a you know, don't go to you know,
any parts place and be like, oh, I'm gonna when
you you know, when you get those cans of I
call it like a It's like a cannon and it's
like a bomb. For for your free on system, right,
because it has a ceiling in it. Yes, it's designed
to seal the system. But the problem is if you

(42:34):
do that and then you bring it to me, there's
nothing I can do with it because that ceiling will
ruin my ten thousand dollars machine. And then you know,
so it's it's it's you know, probably in the sixties
and seventies it was one thing, but now a car
now today, with these cars, I wouldn't recommend it. I
just get it professionally done and and and it doesn't

(42:55):
even you don't even have to bring it to me.
It can be anywhere. But that's the way I would
properly hand and that's the way to go. That's the
way to go about it. And we're getting into we're
getting into a ac time of the year, so that's
how I would handle it. But just have it checked out,
fill it with oil, make sure they put oil on it,

(43:17):
make sure they put a fluorescent dye in it, and
then we black light it. We try to figure out
where it's leaking out at. And then that way we
were able to determine exactly where it's leaking at.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
The Other thing that I would tell you too.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Is And a lot of people, you know, a lot
of people times bring their car to me and we
fill it up and they're like, hey, you guys fix
my AC last year and now it's not working again.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Well, we didn't fix anything, we just filled it back
up right.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
Same concept as a you put air in an in
or two and you got a whole You don't know
where it's leaking at till you fill it up right.
And there's so many components, right, you got an AC evaporator,
you got the AC condenser, you get the AC compressor,
You've got the lines, you know. So there's a lot
of components. And sometimes people are like, well, can you
just replace it all? And we can, but man, it

(43:59):
would cost you thousands. So that's what I would do, is.
I wouldn't do a reseal. I just fill it up,
put die in it, put oil in it, and have
it black lighted and figure out where it's coming from.
All right, worse thinking about it?

Speaker 3 (44:12):
All right?

Speaker 1 (44:12):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
I appreciate your patience and waiting so great questions. Everybody,
have a great week. I will be back next Saturday
to answer all of your car questions again. You can
check us out at donovantyre dot com three local locations.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
Find your nearest one at donovantire dot com.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Thank you so much everybody again, enjoy this wonderful weather
and I will be back next Saturday to answer all
of your car questions. Everybody, be good, take care of yourselves,
Love you, We'll see you next week. You're a listening
to the Car Show on fifty five krc D talkstation

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