John Gerardi Guest Hosts - How Did Prop 50 Win? Republicans Just Don't Like Voting!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Prop fifty huge margin, sixty five to thirty five. That's
a way bigger margin than even Kamala Harris beat Donald Trump. IY,
she only beat him like fifty eight to thirty eight.
How did it happen? Well, it happened for a lot
of reasons, one of which is that Republicans just don't
like voting and are two hung up about various kinds

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of doctrinaire pieties about what's the right way to vote.
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RTLCC dot org slash Christmas. All right, Prop fifty lost,
and I don't feel too many qualms as like, even
like as the Rights to Life director, I didn't feel

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too many qualms about talking about it, just because like
Planned Parenthood was like one of its main sponsors, and like, oh,
so we're just blatantly just naked that this is about helping,
I guess, get more abortion funding. All right, Well, if
Planned parentoid can support it, I don't see why. I
Right to Life is Central California, you can't. It's a
it's a ballad initiative, not a candidate for office. Nonprofits

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can't endorse candidates for office, but they can take a
position on pieces of legislation, and that's what Prop fifty was.
So I said, hey, well, if Planned parent had likes it,
then I think we had Right to Life. Don't now
why did it lose? And why did it lose so bad?
Initially when it was put forward, it seemed like people
were kind of on the fence about it. A couple

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of decisions were made. First, there was this big story
in Axios about how Republicans are all pointing the blame
game finger at each other and how basically you had
Kevin McCarthy in his group they were trying to raise money,
and they Kevin McCarthy was trumpeting, I'm gonna raise three
hundred million dollars and he raised like a tenth of that.

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Charles Munger Junior, he was trying to raise some money.
He was one of the guys who had initially gotten
the independent Citizen's Redistricting Commission on the books back when
Arnold was governor. I think actually one of the big
losers in this whole thing is Arnold himself.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
What are you doing in California? You're getting rid of
my independent commission.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Why is Arnold a loser? Well, because Arnold didn't really
do anything. Arnold Schwarzenegger's got plenty of money. He didn't
donate a dime to the no campaign. He didn't barnstorm
up and down the state campaigning against it. And there
were some people were thinking, look, if it becomes a
popularity contest between Arnold Schwarzenegger and Gavin Newsom, that seems

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like a kind of contest that Arnold could win. But no,
he didn't do it. He did a couple of like
television hits about it, and that was it. He didn't
do any campaigning. And a lot of this was pointed
out by John Fleischman, John Fleischman has this great substack,
you gouts show'll look him up. John Fleischmann, J O

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N F L E I S C H M A N.
He's been this long time observer of California politics and
public policy. He's really brilliant guy, It says, so does
it matter, substack? So look it up John Fleischman. And
he's pointed out all these and losers. Pointed out Schwarzenegger

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is a huge loser. Now, one of the stories that
was pointing out by Axios was you had Charles Munger
Junior was raising money, Kevin McCarthy was raising money, and
then there was this Trump affiliated entity that was trying
to raise some money. The leader of this Trump affiliated
affiliated entity, though, goes to Washington, DC's meeting with all
these big time Republican donors. They ask her, all right, well,

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how's it looking. He says, ah, looks like.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
It's not gonna happen. Looks like they're going to pass it.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
And then all these Republican donors just cooled off, which
apparently infuriated the White House, infuriated the McCarthy camp, and
infuriated Munger.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Now this Axios story I guess. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
I'm wondering if it's you know, people are pushing their
own favorite narratives. The McCarthy people looked like superheroes in
that story, and the McCarthy people really over promised and
under delivered. So I don't know if anyone was that great.
But one of the things that seemed to happen was
Republicans at a national level we're looking at this and thinking,
all right, should we spend one hundred million dollars on this?

(05:06):
We only have probably about maybe we have a certain
amount of money that we can spend on the twenty
twenty six midterm elections?

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Do we want to.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Blow one hundred million of that early now to stop
Prop fifty save five Republican House seats where even if
we really commit the funding, it's a toss up and
it's quite possible that we'll lose. And Republicans at the

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national level basically just decided, I don't know that we
want to back this horse. They pulled back, and I
think that doomed it. I mean, anyone who is watching
football and or the World Series over the last month
saw there were about ten There were a similarly somewhere

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around like ten yes on fifty ads for everyone no
on fifty AD, and I might be generous there. My
wife Holly and I were laughing. So Holly and I
just had a new baby and we were up late.
We're watching a Seinfeld rerun on TV Land and finally

(06:23):
after the World I think it was after Game seven
of the World Series. So Game seven of the World
Series I think just crushed in the ratings, like thirty
million people were watching it. One of the more dramatic
baseball games I've ever seen in my life. Amazing game,
as much as I don't really like the Dodgers that much.
And uh, you know, yes on fifty AD, Yes on

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fifty add, yes on fifty AD, Gavin News, some Gavin News,
some Gavin News, some Barack Obama, Barack Obama, Barack Obama,
Barack Obama, all these yahs on fifty adds. We're watching
a Seinfeld rerun on TV Land.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Hey, it's a no on fifty AD. What do you know?
All right? The no on fifty campaign getting.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
All of the everyone who's up late watching Seinfeld reruns
on TV Land. Great job, guys. They didn't have the
money and that's how you win. Or lose a California
statewide campaign. I firmly believe this. This is true of
California politics more so than a lot of other states.

(07:27):
I mean, look at Virginia. Okay, Democrats had more money,
but like the debate between Abigail.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Spanberger and win some Earl Sears was.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Like a huge deal and people were critical of win
some Earl Seers for how she debated and blah blah
blah blah blah. There's no debates in California state wide races.
The debates mean nothing if they if they happen at all.
What matters is money. What matters is do you have
enough money to run television ads in the Los Angeles

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media market where it's crazy. If you've got that money,
you will win. If you don't have that money, you
will lose.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Period. End of sentence and a story.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
In spite of all that, though, in spite of all that,
I feel like Republicans were still real morons, rank and
file voter Republicans.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
If you are listening to me.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
And you're a Republican and you were like, I don't
like vote by mail. I'm just gonna wait until election
day to vote in person. And then something came up
and you didn't vote. You're a moron and you need
to Okay, I'm not gonna say you're a moron, but

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you need a better strategy for this, all right, you
need to re examine things. There were four million California
Republicans who didn't vote on Prop fifty. It's winning right
now by two and a half million votes. I don't

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know what to tell you, guys, do you actually want
to stop this stuff? And one of the things they
are able to track, they were able to track early
voting numbers as they come in and then win does
it spike? And you can see the early voting numbers

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for Democrats were higher, for the Yes on fifty were
higher than the No On fifty. They had a little
spike during the No King's rally day. As much as
we wanted to make fun of all the No King stuff,
guess what, it helped them get out the vote. And
then as you get closer to the election day both sides,

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the number of votes turns so kind of make the graph,
it's like a line, It sort of turns up at
the end, almost like like a hockey stick. And guess
what the Democrats hockey stick turned up sooner, it turned
up faster, it turned up more aggressively. The Republican hockey
stick was I don't know, maybe it's in need of

(10:20):
some of these fine products or rectile dysfunction that we
keep advertising for here during the Trevor Carey Show.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Right here on Power Talk.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah, the Republican hockey stick was not bending upward enough,
the No On fifty stick. Why well, because in part
Republicans have all of these weird hang ups about voting
and how to vote and ballot harvesting and voting by
mail and early voting, and all these Republicans who have

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I think a correct theoretical view of the world as
it ought to be.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
The world does it ought to be ought to be?
A world in which.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Everyone votes in person on election day at their local precinct.
That's the world as it should exist. It is not
the world you inhabit. The world you inhabit is one

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where early voting exists, vote by mail exists, All these
different ways of voting exist. And if you take advantage
of early voting, it builds enthusiasm, It allows.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
You to encourage other people to get started voting.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
It results in get out the vote efforts not having
to expend as much money on you. It's just better
in every possible way, shape and form, and Republicans are
so resistant to it. Every election where Republicans have really
embraced it, like the twenty twenty two elections were pretty
good for Republicans. Why because we've really embraced early voting

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in California. They were okay elections as far as our
House seats and things like that. But we just decide, no,
we don't care because the Democrats are gonna cheat. Democrats
are gonna cheat.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Guys.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Republicans did pretty darn well in twenty twenty four one
Fresno County, when all these different counties in California that
went for Donald Trump that didn't go for Hillary. It's
not like they're cheating less in twenty twenty four than
they're cheating yes, and twenty twenty five. Like, I just
refuse to accept this idea that there is such widespreadsheet.

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Is there some voter fraud that's happening, Yes, there is.
You can either sulk about it or you can get
out and vote in any way and do something about it.
Just and on all these excuses that Republicans seem to
come up with for not voting.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Dufust.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Candace Owens is out there saying we're not voting until
we get to the bottom of who really killed Charlie Kirk?

Speaker 2 (13:09):
What does one have to do with the other?

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Setting aside her general insanity, thinking that really she's just
trying to come up with some way to say that
the Jews killed Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
But anyway, we'll leave that aside. But Republicans are finding
all these excuses.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
And the thing is, if you wait until election day,
stuff will come up. They'll run out of ink for
printing ballots, they'll have hold ups in the line, they'll
have voting machines malfunction. That stuff happens all the time
in elections throughout this country. On election day that result
in Republicans not being able to vote. And look, I

(13:52):
get it. After twenty twenty, twenty twenty was a traumatic
election for Republicans. Everyone was freaked out. They were freaked
out about vote by mail, they were freaked out about
all this stuff. They were freaked out about all this stuff. Look,
it's not like they only cheated in twenty twenty and
they didn't cheat in twenty twenty four. It's not so

(14:14):
fundamentally broken, whatever cheating, whatever insecurity there is, It's not
like it's so fundamental that Republicans still can't win.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Guys.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
In twenty twenty four, we passed what was the ballot initiative.
I believe it was Prop thirty six, the tough on
crime ballot initiative. We passed it. It won in every
single county of California. That was a total Republican pushed effort.
Gavin Newsom opposed it. All these Democrats opposed it. It
passed with flying colors. If we actually vote, if we're

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actually dedicated to it, some of these things they can't stop.
So in short, I want Republicans to get over themselves.
You gotta stop thinking with this twenty twenty mindset, get
over yourselves and vote early. Figure it out, come up

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with a better plan than this.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Is the Trevor Charry Show on the Valley's Powered talk.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
And ranting and raving at people who are still nervous
about voting early or voting by mail or things like that,
and it's like, well, just the sooner you vote, the better.
It builds up more momentum for your side. If more
people are voting early, it gets word of mouth out.
You're more able, more credibly able to tell other people

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to vote if you have already voted. Just in general,
vote early, vote aggressively, get it done, and it eliminates
the possibility of, you know, something happening. I will confess
a little story about me. I woke up on a Tuesday.
It was like a couple days after or my wife,

(16:01):
Holly and I we just had our sixth baby, little
Cecilia Girardi, and it was like Tuesday after that, and
I'm like, oh my gosh, I forgot to vote. It's Tuesday.
It's election day. Trevor had mentioned it to me. Oh jeez, Louise.
I get up and I'm like, I go to my wife, like, hey,
I gotta I'm taking the week off from work.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Hey, I got i gotta go vote.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
I'm gonna take Jim or two year old with me.
I'm gonna go vote right now and then and then
maybe we'll find some time so that you can go
vote later in the day. And she's like, what are
you talking? Okay, dear friends, I was one week early.
I it was October twenty sixth, It was not November
fourth or whatever day Election day was.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
It actually was.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
I get to the polling place and I said, oh,
on election Day, it's gonna open up at seven, so
I'm gonna get there. I'm gonna get there. Oh geez,
I'm running a little late. Oh it's already like eight fifteen.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
Geez.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
I get there and it's not open. I'm like, hey,
why is it there?

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Nobody here?

Speaker 1 (17:00):
My boy, this is going to be a real low
turnout election. And then I realized, oh, I am a
full week early, and I did actually get to vote
later that day, So there you go. I did vote early.
I'd just forgotten what day election day was, I guess.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Anyway.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Here are some people, though, who actually were late, and
that's the California Republican Party Carl Demayo, who's California State
Assembly member. I think he's kind of from where's he from.
I think he's sort of lost San Diego area, and
he's been a very active member of the state Assembly.

(17:39):
He's been promoting some like voter ID in statewide ballid initiatives.
I think he's hoping to get qualified for the people
of California to vote on sometime in twenty twenty six
is a BALLID initiative measure. He retweeted out, I guess
a constituent of his or some other Republican from Orange
County who showed what she got in the mail on

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November sixth, Yesterday, Thursday, November sixth, she got a whole
bunch of literature from the California Republican Party saying vote early,
vote today, stop Newsom's Prop fifty power grab. Your vote
could make the difference. Vote, don't wait to vote, mail
back your ballot today. She got it two days after

(18:24):
election day. Holly, my wife just told me after I
I tweeted this to her earlier in the day because
I saw it, and she was like, yeah, we got
a piece of mail like that on election day. Guys,
you can't be cutting it that close.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
I mean, what are you doing? What point is there
to send.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
A vote early mailer? What point is there to send that?
But it's gonna arrive on election day or later? I mean,
are you are you kidding me? But this is this
is our leader, This is who leads us California GOP.

(19:11):
Great job, guys, great job in short, just great job
by Republicans all around.

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Speaker 2 (20:21):
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Speaker 1 (20:22):
Help folks out all right, I want to talk about
kind of a thing that's a little bit of STM
and drong in conservative land and it's the rise of
real concerns about anti semitism anti semitism, and the origin

(20:43):
of these concerns comes from basically three online kind of
alternative media figures, Candace Owens, Nick Fuentes, and Tucker Carlson. Now,
I'd say there's sort of an ordering of who is
the worst of these to the least offensive of these.

(21:04):
I'd say Nick Fuentes is sort of far and away
the worst, and then maybe Candace Owens, and then maybe
Tucker Carlson. Tucker's offenses seem to be more at the
level of giving a platform to Nick Flintes. He had
Nick Fuentes on his show and basically played patty cake
with him for a solid hour plus, never really pushed

(21:26):
back on all the crazy things Nick Fuentes has said.
Nick Fuentes has talked about horrible things about women, jokes
about rape, jokes about the Holocaust, talks about how awesome
Hitler was, talk about how awesome Stalin was. And for
some reason, there's this sense of fuent as some kind
of conservative guy was like actively rooting for Trump to lose,
actively rooting for Republicans to lose. In the twenty twenty

(21:48):
five elections, et cetera. But there's some sense that he
has a large audience, he has a large young audience,
and that I guess anti Israel sentiment seem to be
the connective theme between all these people. Candace Owens in
the last few years has taken a very hard anti
Israel turn that frankly seems to be turning into kind

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of anti Semitic conspiracy theory.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Land.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
One of her big things right now is trying to
find Charlie Kirk's real killer.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
That's her big.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Thing is say no, who could accept the official story?

Speaker 2 (22:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (22:31):
I think I know more about criminal law than Candas
ow and what Owens what does And I kind of
think the official story makes a lot of sense, seems
fine to me. But a lot of this is candae
Owan's sort of talking about it seems to be implying
a maybe shadowy figures. We're involved to the point where
Candis Owens is just now putting on her Twitter this

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is happening today, where she's just putting up pictures on
her Twitter account of like random people who are in
the crowd the day that Charlie Kirk died, who she
just thinks are dressed weird to like employ Oh.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
What is this person doing dressing suspiciously?

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Including like today, she posted a picture it was a
guy who was wearing a hoodie and sunglasses. Who would
wear a hoodie when it's ninety degrees out? And a
guy responded to the tweet, Hi, that was me. I'm
a soccer player at the whatever the college is that
the college in Utah were Charlie kirkotch, I'm a soccer

(23:27):
player at such and such. I'm wearing my team hoodie. Guys,
on't we wear these hoodies all the time. I stopped
by because I saw the event was happening. I was
going from one place to another for practice. But no,
I didn't have anything to do with you know, sorry
for disappointing your conspiracy theories, but Hi, this is me.

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She's totally in La La land, I think. And she
just keeps going on and well, Erica Kirk didn't say
she didn't believe that. She honestly just the grossest like
attention grabby things I've ever seen. And similarly with Tucker Carlson,

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I think Tucker Carlson's been He's so sort of anti modern,
the sort of modern American foreign policy establishment. He so
despises the foreign policy establishment. He was so anti Ukraine.
He's so anti anti, anti anti that he's gotten into
this position with Israel and American support for Israel where

(24:34):
he's just kind of been wrong. He said if Trump
did the bombing strike against the Iranian nuclear program, it
would start World War three. It didn't seemed to have
been a ringing success. Pretty much a lot of people
stand it. I mean, he didn't kill too many people.

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He set back their nuclear program by a decade. Trump's
sort of pro Trump's posture with Middle East politics has
basically been to reverse the Obama strategy. The Obama strategy
was maximal engagement with Iran to help sort of bring
them into the Community of Nations, help them out with

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getting nuclear power, which is like, come on, why the
heck do the Iranians want nuclear power for domestic energy production.
They're sitting on oil, They got more oil than they know.
What the heck do they need nuclear power for? They
can pull their power right out of the ground. Are
you kidding me? They want nuclear power to make a nuke.
They want to blow people up. They want to threaten

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other countries. They want to threaten specifically Saudi Arabia, whom
they hate, and Israel, whom they also hate. So the
Trump foreign policy, both for Trump one point zero and
Trump two point zero, has been maximal support for Saudi
Arabian Israel and maximal sanctions, maximal pressure against the Iranian regime.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
And guess what, It's.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Worked and the opposite has failed. Now I should say
all this, by the way, with this proviso, I'm not
a Israel is always right kind of guy. I don't

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really particularly like the fact that America gives a bunch
of military aid, has given a bunch of military aid
to Israel over the decades. I don't like the fact
that it's like they're always attached to our apron strings
and that America is always sort of the babysitter for
this conflict. I don't like it. I don't understand fundamentally
why we are the babysitter for this conflict and nothing.

(26:44):
I mean, there's all kinds of horrible conflicts happening in
Africa all the time that we don't give a darn about.
I mean, President Trump's finally talking about the horrible persecution
of Christians in Nigeria, but like before that, I mean,
horrible stuff was happening in Africa all the time. I'm
as bad, if not worse, than the horrible things happening
between Israel and Palestine, and nobody gave a damn about

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any of it. And I don't care, frankly, all that much.
I recognize that Israel is a pro Western democracy and
that there's some utility to having an ally like that
in the region, but I just fundamentally don't. I mean,
a major reason why radical Islamic terrorism hates US is

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because of our support for Israel over the decades. Now,
should our foreign policy be dictated by the resentments of
people in the Middle East?

Speaker 2 (27:34):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
I admit that it's kind of a complicated question, but
I'm not like a die hard israel apologist. Even in
their conduct of the Gaza War, I think they were justified,
odd belum going to war. They had a total justification.
I had some qualms about their conduct in below as

(27:55):
it's kind of the classical just war theory lingo for
it induct in during the war in how they conducted
the war. Yes, they're caught between in an almost impossible
situation because Hamas who sucks, was deliberately putting civilians in
harm's way to make it impossible for Israel. So I

(28:18):
acknowledge that, you know, you're still talking about fifty or
sixty thousand people dead even by the Israelis estimates, who
are civilians or non combatants, although of course the line
between who's a combatant and who's a civilian is a
pretty wavy thin line. Nonetheless, a lot of non combatants
were getting killed, and at a certain point, as that

(28:40):
war was dragging on for like two years, it was
sort of like, well, what objective is Israel even accomplishing
at this point? Are they just going to level the
whole Gayza strip? Like is that just? Is that right?
I was questioning all that. I was questioning, do we
need to be selling them weapons? I don't know that
that's a good idea, because then that makes it our
responsibility if we sell them weapons, if we sell them milly,

(29:02):
if we pay for military aid for them, it's our
proxy war. And I don't know that I want us
to be in a proxy war. So I'm not I'm
not like a die hard apologist for all things Israel.
But you know what I can do is I can
distinguish between I don't know that I agree with everything

(29:24):
Benjamin Utt Yah who says versus Nutt Benjamin Nett and
Yahoo sent Mossad agents to kill Charlie Kirk because Charlie
Kirk was getting a little shaky about his support for
his and therefore Massad assassinated Charlie Kirk. What are you

(29:45):
talking about? You have not a s You're you're pulling
that completely out of your I'll say, ear. You know,
Tucker doing the taste list thing during Charlie Kirk's funeral
talking about the people eating hummus to plot the death

(30:05):
of Jesus, which is like, why are you bringing up
this anti Semitic stuff, Like why are you bringing up
your pet antisemitic stuff during Charlie Kirk's freaking funeral, Like
what the heck are you doing? I'm just sick of it,
And especially as someone who do politically like I want
to restrain American foreign policy, I don't like all these
foreign policy entanglements, including there in that region of the world.

(30:29):
It annoys me that it seems like everyone who doesn't
want to so many people anyway who don't want American
military involvement in Israel, how easily they seem to trip
into these anti semitic tropes. So is it a big
problem when we return? I want to talk about it,

(30:51):
the insistent.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
Arry Show on The Valley's Power Talk.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Is there a growing, dangerous, threatening anti Semitic streak to
the modern day conservative movement, to the modern day Republican Party. Well,
no one would be more delighted if that happened than
the New York Times than the liberal media. They published
a story eagerly, gleefully trying to claim that Nick Fuenta's

(31:19):
was the new successor to Charlie Kirk, the heir apparent.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
No he's not.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
It's one thing to think about with Nick Flints or
Canda Owns or even Tucker Carlson. A couple of things.
First of all, plenty of people the Republican Coalition. Yes,
it has some young people, it's still a lot of
old people. I can tell you that probably a lot

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of you are hearing me talk about this and are
like Nick Fuent's, I have no idea who the heck
that is, And some of you are like I haven't
really followed up much with what Tucker Carlson's been up
to since he left Fox News all those years ago,
and Candice owns. Oh is she that nice black conservative girl.
That's like the extent of a lot of people's knowledge.
All right, there's that. Secondly, However, many views, however, many listens. However,

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many streams owens Fuintez Tucker get They're not consumed in
the form of everybody sitting all every single one of
their subscribers sits down and listens to the entire two
hour long podcast every episode, every time, and agrees one

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hundred percent with everything they say. It's just not true.
That's just not how it works. Trust me. I know
how many people have come up to me, Oh, I
really like you on Power Talk, Joe, but you know
there's one thing you said and I kind of didn't
agree with. People are individuals. They listen to different people
in different ways, with different levels of agreement. There's one

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guy who comments on my Twitter just to tell me
that he thinks I'm the most boring radio host. Ever,
how he thinks listening to me is like watching is
like watching grass grow, but like, I appreciate your pro
life viewpoints, but listening to you is like watching grass grow.

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Like all right, well, hey, tough but fair.

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So I don't think every listen to Tucker Carlson or
Candae Owens or whoever equals anti Semitic monster. I don't
think it's true. I also think some people will listen
to Nick Fuentes because he's saying a transgressive thing, like

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he makes a Holocaust joke, and there's a certain core
of twenty something guys who are gonna go the assist

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