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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Paul Leffler, the voice of Fresno State. What a big
day this has This has only happened how many times
in school history this announcement.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Well, this will be the twentieth head coach. But you know,
it's what's crazy is I think it's the last dozen
years or so.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
This is number seven, so a lot recently. I had
some long runs in the past. Absolutely, But the game's
great too, right, I mean coaches do move around more,
look how players move around.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
And then that's a hard thing for people to adjust to.
I think it's you know, it strains the fan relationship.
But that said, Fresno State has hired a really terrific
coach at matt EN's with a great track record. I
don't think anyone's disputing that. I think the pain that
I'm hearing from players and alumni is that you know,
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one of them or one of us. So to speak
from the community, someone who's invested most of his adult
life in the Fresno State program was passed over and
maybe not given the opportunity that a lot of players
in alumni deserve. So I don't think think we can
be oblivious to the hurt and the emotions of that.
You know, there are a lot of people that really
believed him Skipper's the right guy for the job and
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would have stayed here a long time and had a
lot of success and wanted to see him get that opportunity.
So it's one of those days that has nothing to
do with the coach who was hired, right, It's not
his fault.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yeah, Well, it's a lot of people are sad too,
you know, because that's it. Yeah, And I said yesterday
on the show, not knowing it in depth like you do,
it's like, okay, Skipper, Let's say he was an assistant
captain of a cruise ship and the captain went out
at the last minute and he had to come aboard.
He got everybody to shore safely on that venture that
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he was thrown into, and if he'd had the chance
to get his own crew for the return voyage back,
it would have probably been a different trip.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
That's a good analogy, Trevor, and I think that's the thing.
But it is a sport that demands immediate dividends. And
Garrett class he was brought in as an athletic director
to make a difference in front those states going into
a new conference, and you know, he's the one who
has that responsibility, so this is the decision that he made.
And I think the fan base has to give the
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new coach a chance, but it doesn't mean we have
to pretend that Coach Skipper doesn't mean.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
A whole lot to the Red Wave.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
And I was at practice this morning and I saw
Coach Skipper take the high road in handling it and
informing his team and telling them that they still have
a game to play in the bowl game, and that
they're playing, you know, for each other and for the university,
not necessarily for him, so don't make it about that.
And as hard as he tried to not make it
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about him, as the players were leaving the field and
heading off to a meeting to hear the news officially,
they were chanting, we want skip. So that's a real
thing that these players, and they've been all over social
media saying this is what they wanted. So it's hard
for them. And you know, in many ways, the balance
of power in college sports has shifted to the players
with the transfer portal and nil. But I think some
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of these players are feeling like their voice wasn't heard,
So I think that creates an opportunity for Garrett Classy
and the Fresno State administration now and especially for this
new coach matt Ends, who, as I said, as a
terrific track record, part of a great coaching tree at
North Dakota State, a couple national championships as a head coach,
four more as an assistant coach. Indisputable what his track
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record is that he has an opportunity to put out
on olive branch and to try to mend some fences
with players, fans, alumni who are little miffed that what
they wanted to happen isn't what happened.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
It used to be that the players were I don't
want to use the word stuck if they didn't like
the coaching decision, but they kind of were. Now with name,
image and likeness, they can be free agents if they
don't like decisions. So that's a big gamble. Well, and
I can say this, Trevor. You know, there were some
Bulldog players who had already entered the transfer portal citing
the uncertainty of the coaching situation, so they weren't practicing today.
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Today's the first practice since the UCLA game. But there
were some players who practiced today fully intent to play
in the bowl game. Who then, after going to this
meeting and being informed about the change, have entered the
transfer portal? Okay, saying because of the change, Well, we
had the court right Mikey Keane, was he out there? No?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
No, he had already gone into portal. But I'm just saying,
that's how quickly to your point, those decisions can be made. Now.
You know, immediately you can say hey, I'm out. So
right now, you know, Coach Skipper, who's going to coach
this bowl game? With this coaching staff, they have to
figure out who's in, who's ready to go, and how
they can go win a game in a few weeks,
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the last game that he's going to get the chance
to lead Fresno State.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
In my guess, Paul Lefler, voice of Fresno State Athletics
new coach today Matt ins From former North Dakota State
head coach and also linebacker coach at USC. When they
go into the portal like Mikey Keen did, does that
mean they don't step field back on Fresno State, don't
put cleats back on, don't go to practice, don't play
in the game.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
That's pretty much what happens. We have had exceptions. A
few years ago. You might remember that when Kaylin de
Boor left for the University of Washington, Jake Hayner went
in the transfer portal and then changed his mind ended
up playing in the bowl game. Jeff Tedford had been
announced as coming back, and of course that's when Lee
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Marks was the interim head coached that bowl game. Coach
Tedford didn't coach the game, but Jake ended up playing
in that game and playing really well. So there are
examples of guys changing their decision. And I'm sure Matt
Entz is going to try to convince some of those
bulldogs to stick around. Maybe not all of them, but
you know, it's a whole new world. And the other
part of that is, Okay, you've got a coach with
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a great track record, who has a reputation as a
tough nose coach, But how do you attract talent and
is there an nil war chest that comes along with it,
Because in today's day and age, if you don't have
nil money, you're just not getting the same caliber player.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
We talked about that and I even said, well to
be two leagues in the future where you'll have the
rich league and the not so rich league. I don't
know how it's all going to work out with the
bulldog bread, right, that's a name, image and likeness. Huh.
I thought i'd see more player endorsements. Are there other
ways to these players to make money that's not going
to be real visible to a viewer or a listener. Well,
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I sawlikey Keem with an air conditioning commercial on TeV once,
but I didn't see much else.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Maybe, and I you know, I think in practicality, I
understand the point of view that says some of this
is a bit of a facade for paying players. Right,
You're not supposed to be paid for play. There's supposed
to be some kind of good or service endorsement exchange
for it.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
And that's the intent of the rule. Well, I was
going to have those schools. Does the check come from
the schoolers that come from the outside business?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
It comes from the collective that the business.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Is put a bulldog bread. That's where it would come from.
And that's the model right now.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
In the future, it may be that student athletes become
employees of athletic departments. There's some smoke, there's not fire.
There yet, but there's certainly some smoke in that direction.
But I think today, Trevor, it's you know, the emotions
are tough. A lot of Bulldog fans remember Tim Skipper
as a player. They loved what he did in the
Bowl Game last year. They've had some highs with him
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this year and some disappointments. But he's a part of
a family, and so if you felt like he's part
of your family in a way, you feel like your
family was rejected today. And I feel that way, yeah,
And I don't think the administration should be dismissive or
insensitive to that. So two things can exist at the
same time. The coach that was hired as a tremendous coach,
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but the coach that was passed over has a special
place in people's heart here, and that makes it a
difficult situation and I think requires really good communication moving forward.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I was watching a highlight of Frozno State one day
after the game on YouTube, and it stayed on and
popped into nineteen eighty two highlights of quarterback Tedford. Oh yeah, yeah, man,
this does really go back. You know, the love and
I saw this kind of love for a team in
Buffalo they have the same love that people here have
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for the Bulldogs. I'm picking up on how a community
feels it means something to them.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Well, yeah, and I was just in Buffalo West this morning, Firebox, California,
Josh Allen's hometown. Thanks to the firebar Rotary for a
great check for Central Valley Honor Flight this morning and
a great meal at the Blue Flame, which used to
be the Farmer's Daughter owned by Josh Allen's family. They've
got a great Chile Reno and eggs breakfast. Trevor, if I.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Think you're in a sports broadcasting for the food, well,
isn't ever getting getting to go to all these different places?
You need a Paul Leffler travel guide there for out there. Well,
did okay in this new world that we're talking about,
did the USC linebacker coach Matt Entz sit down and go,
all right, how much money you got in the bank
for me to go get some players? I mean, I'm
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sure those those are the conversations. Maybe not that direct, but.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Well, I'm sure that's a question he was asked, right,
I think any coach interviewing for this job, and Tim
Skipper was interviewed for this job went through the process.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Now, why would they be asked that. Wouldn't it be
the other way around, Like school, do you have the
funds and bulldog bread for me to go shopping?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I think the school is asking the coach, what's your
plan for attracting that kind of investment in your program?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Oh, that's what it's like. You gotta everything's attached to
a dollar.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
And I think that's part of how Vance Wahlberg landed
the Presno State basketball job, that he was able to
convince the administration, Hey, I can rally some support in
the community, and I hope the community shows up tonight
for the big Mountain West basketball opener against San Diego State.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yeah. I was having a conversation with c K on
Sports about you know, he's a Green Bay Packers fan,
and he talks about that little community, how much they
come out support the Packers, and he talks about that
same feeling here in the valley. I guess there's a
lot of big ag and stuff like that, right that
they'll be going to all these big businesses looking for
the actual support when it comes to name, image and likeness.
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We had the unl V quarterback not even play right
because the name image and likeness. He didn't get the money,
That's what he said. It's all about money now. We're
not Look how much we're talking about money right, right,
But look how much we're talking about money now.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
And it's a shame, Trevor, because what it does. You know,
I don't want to get on a soapbox, but I
do believe that the way it's currently situated, it's counterproductive
to the whole purpose of team sports. The whole idea
has always been, you know, delay gratification and put your
own priorities underneath the overarching priorities of the team, and
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you're going to be a better person and grow as
a result. And now it's hey, if the team's not
doing what I want, I'm out and I need to get.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Paid before I do anything.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
You know, you guys you get you know, recruits are
getting promised nil money before they played it down.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
High school players.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yeah, So it's it's a different world, and I don't
know when it's going to shift, but at some point
I think there will be a little bit of a
course correction, so to speak.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Paul, I didn't hear the interview, but agent Squires told
me about it. When you were talking to Air Force
and those players they can't do name because they're in
the they're in the Air Force. They so they're playing
really I guess for the love of the game.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
That they do have a completely paid for education. Uh
and my nephew is a senior going to graduate at
the Air Force Academy in a little.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Bit, so.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Well, scholarship paid for education.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yeah, and yeah, there are a few differences, but yes,
that that is a distinction.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
You're right, yeah, Well, I know it's a sad day
for you. You were close to coach Tim Skipper new Ing
for for many years and I assume he doesn't stay
on the staff that doesn't work too well, or does
it or has that been specifically?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
You wouldn't see that happen. It would take a lot
of courage and a lot of trust on both sides, right,
I think.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
And that's something.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
That that I'm sure some people are thinking about. You know,
could a new coach take the chance, swallow his pride
a little bit and offer a spot to a very
popular coach because with the player Skipper before, what was
he offers a linebacker coach and associate head coach? Okay,
but you know, could you offer coach Skipper a job,
it would take swallowing some pride and taking a chance
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that you know that he's going to be all in
on your agenda. And then on the flip side for
Coach Skipper, it would be okay, you know, am I
having to swallow some pride here and do I see
how this is going to benefit my alma mater. It's
not impossible. It just doesn't happen too often.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
They got a bright career still ahead of him. Women
you never know in the future. People circle back around
many times. Absolutely, And I've got to say this about
Tim Skipper. He's first class all the way through. He
was a joy to work with this year on the
coaches shows, on game day interviews. He's one of the
more effective communicators that Fresno State has had in any
coaching positions. And I think anyone who's met him gets
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that he's a genuine guy. There's no question his futures
very bright. And that's why so many alumni, I think
so many former Bulldog players were so excited to see
him in the interim role this year and really expected
him to get the permanent role. But that's not what happened,
don't they have the word a player's coach. Absolutely, I
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think he's a player's coach and his future. To describe
what that means, well, it's.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
It's somebody that the players believe understands them and is
for them. And that doesn't mean, you know, you roll
over and let them have their way all the time.
Sometimes there's some tough love involved. But it's I think
a player's coach as a coach that players never questioned
whether he has their back and has their best interest
in mine. And I certainly think that applies to Tim Skipper.
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And you know, I think that's part of the reputation
that matt En springs in as well.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
All right, well, Paul, I know you're busy, Thank you
for coming in this afternoon, and I know you're sad,
and I know that you'll remain optimistic. You're you're a
pretty darn good team player in there, and you'll get
in there and.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Well, and it's not about me, Trevor, and it's not
you know, yeah, Tim.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Skipper's a every fan. It's about every fan right now,
is yeah, And that's your you're a fan, I hear it.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Well, you know what I am, Trevor, is I'm somebody
who loves the valley, and I think if you're not careful,
you could interpret this move as a bit of a
rejection of the value of the community, of what people
have cared about or what they value here. And I
don't think in any way that's the message that the
administration is trying to send. I think it's a tough business.
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They're looking at a new conference they want to be
competitive in, and they made the decision that they feel
is best.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
So I think it's a.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Incumbent on the administration to explain that decision of the
community to extend an alive branch. And then it's our
job as a community to embrace this new coach, support them,
and believe for the best. And there's no doubt in
my mind this community and that program are capable of
great things. So you want to rally behind the institution.
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But I hope that the administration does take time to
listen to those who are upset, who feel maybe rejected
or betrayed, because those emotions are real and they're understandable.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
And it was packed stadiums every game, and I guess
we'll see how people feel on the first home game.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah, and we'll I think we'll probably My guess is
tomorrow we'll hear from Matt enz right, and it maybe
people hear his visions. You ever met, I never have.
We have some mutual friends, and I've heard nothing but
great things about him. Yeah, so I'm looking forward to
getting it on.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
To wrap it all up, USC assistant head coach former
North Dakota State coach Matt Enns will be the next
head football coach at Fresno State. Paul Lefler, Voice of
Fresnel State Athletics, Thank you, sir, Thank you. Trevor came.
We do a go dogs.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
That's what I let Pat and Cam. Usually they're better
at it than I am. But how about go dogs.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
There you go? And I love the epic night. Has
he ever missed the Epic Night? Have you ever had
to nudge him?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:44):
I have. Yeah, but he's pretty good at it. No
one could do it better.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Thank you, Paul. See it, trev This is the Trevor
Cherry Show on the Valley's Tower Dog Peter Navarro. When
Peter Navarro was on the show, he said that they
set on their show, We're like Fresno State. We'll go
play anybody anywhere, and please to announce Donald J. Trump
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announcing here Peter Navarro, I quote the President, a man
who was treated horribly by the deep state, or whatever
else you'd like to call it, will serve as my
senior counselor for trade and manufacturing by American higher American
President goes on to say Peter is not just a
superb Harvard Traine economist. He's a noted author of more
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than a dozen best selling books on strategic business management
and unfair trade. He did a superb job for the
American people in my first term. Peter will do even
better as senior counselor to protect American workers and cheerly
make American manufacturing great again. Boy, he served his time,
didn't he? What a what a crock of crap that was.
(16:56):
You got Eric Calder running guns in Mexico. You got
Hillary coming up with Russian prostitute peepee things, and yeah,
nobody nobody gets a clink, and he clink at the
old jail cell right now. Nobody had to eat the
oatmeal that was looked the same as the mashed potatoes
at dinner, you know, food for a while, like he
had too. I'm here in just a few minutes at
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the bottom of the hour, and thanks again to Paul
Leffler and the honesty of that man. I tell you
he is, like you said, it's his love for the valley,
but he also said, we got to embrace and give
a chance. And hey, I watched the games, and I
listened to the games, and I get all the interviews,
and I talk at the office about the games. And
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I've never watched in my entire life or listened to
my entire life a college team ever like I have
the last two or three years. And into it. At
work on Friday, we wear our President State Friday gear.
I got it all in my closet, hung up. I
got three different hal you know. So yeah, into it.
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But man, there's people that are really into it that
had you know, their kids played there, or they played there,
or if they didn't play there, they were in the stands,
or they were in the band or you know, the
alumni and a lot of people you know, are born
and raised here, So it's not as transient of a
city is even Sacramento is now or a bigger city.
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You know, the people are in and they're out. You know,
it's funny for not being here. I've lived here ten
years in a few years in their early nineties. My
first child born here. So yeah, there's some rootage, I
guess you could say. But I asked people, I go, hey,
were you like born and raised around here?
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
No, no, no, I was born in Kingsburg. And and
to me, that's around here. You know, I'm thinking like, well,
were you born in Olpaso or Connecticut? You know, they're
oh no, no, no, I wasn't born around here. But see,
I love that because that's that's your area that you've
been in, right, Trevor carry You're all over the place. Uh.
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But yeah, to have that that rootage, and part of
that now we talk about that, and that that comes
with a sense of family and tradition and knowing exactly
how that field used to look that now has a
building on it, right, you tell stories, you see it
change over time, right, And part of that is involved
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with sports. High school sports is huge around here. Not
as well, some of its as huge as like in
Texas how you think about but well, not to that degree,
but yeah, it's it's big and and uh, it's that
that mentality. I wanted to say mentality, that's not the
right word. That almost has like a negative, but the
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vibe is they want somebody from here. We even saw
it with the superintendent of schools, right, that was a battle,
right police chief, but there were people that were upset
that we went to Oklahoma City. Right. They wanted it
somebody from here that understood the people. And it's not
just unique to this town. There's a lot of communities
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that feel that way across America. But when it really
does come to football, you heard that come through with
what Paul Leffler was saying. So I hope the new
coach embraces that a five year deal, right, But when
it comes to sports, all it takes is to be
like ten and two or whatever, and suddenly you're a bulldog. Right, Yeah,
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that's right. They were easy to forget things real quick, right,
Winning somehow just makes it all seem like this is
the tremortary show on the Valleys our talk.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
So make it clear right now that Alcohol is not
a satuary city. We're gonna do everything we can to
work with the federal government to help ease this immigration problem,
help solve this problem. The problem we're facing in alcoholone
is that state law State of Californi law says that
if a police officer does his duty that we're asking
him to do by complying with the federal government, that
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police officer can be charged with a felony and lose
his pension. So that puts us in a really serious
situation because it basically takes frontline police officers and puts
them in the middle of this political crisis, this political
argument between the city, the state, and the fetes.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Well what is that. Well, in case you don't recognize it,
that's an elected official in California standing up for the people.
That's Mayor Bill Wells of El caohoone, and he joins
us on the show. Mayor, thank you for coming on.
As I found out when you and I talked on
the phone, I didn't realize you were on a few
years ago. I was told over the COVID lockdowns.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
I remembered that I was causing trouble then too.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah, so you sure were. Thank you for being back
on the show. Tell everybody out there why you're causing
trouble and how you want to work for the state.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Well, you know, you probably know that California passed the
law SB fifty four, which said that our municipalities cannot
work with federal government in regards to immigration. That means
that if we have a Venezuelan gang member in our custody,
we can't call border patrol. We can't call ICE and say, hey,
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come and get this guy, and vice versa. If they
were to call us and say, hey, did you just
arrest a Venezuelan gang member, we would, according to the
law of California, have to say, we can't talk to you.
I think that's dangerous and I think it's ridiculous, and
I think it really misunderstands the concept that there are
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certain entities that have precedents over other entities. And what
I mean by that is that the federal government the laws,
and the federal government should supersede the laws of the
state of California.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Yeah, and that's where that's where the showdown. I hate
to use that word, but it really is going to
be a showdown in the wild West.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
It is. And so when I started, you know, seeing
that Tom Holman was going to stand up and protect
us the way he is speaking about doing that, I
was really excited. And we had taken a stand way
back in twenty seventeen to officially say that alcohol would
ever be a sanctuary city, but it didn't really have
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much teeth because the Biden administration was in control and
they were, you know, working hand in the hand with
Gavin Newsom, and so we didn't really have much of
an opportunity to do anything. But now that we do.
I talked to my city manager. I said, I want
a legal opinion as to what can happen. And what
happened was very surprising to me. He came back and
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said it wouldn't be the city that would be in trouble.
It would be the police officer. Because the police officer
would you know, eventually be the one calling board of
patroller calling ice and as a result of California law,
they would be committing a misdemeanor, which would mean that
they could do their job and they could lose their pension,
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and to make matters worse, they would be held civilly liable,
so that the illegal alien that they called in on
could sue them and take their house and take any
money that they had. And so that's I thought that
was really insidious because it really takes the public servant
and puts them in this position where they're trying to
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weigh whether not they should take direction from the city,
from the state or federal government. I think that's really unfair.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
My guest is Mayor Bill Wells of El Caohoone. Yesterday
Mayor even Tom Homan posted this up. The three judges
on the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals rule the federal
government has the authority to deport illegals over the objections
of any and all local authorities. I said that was
a huge win for deportations of criminals running around here.
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Does that now kind of take away the threat that
would go to these officers that you just described.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
I think, so, you know, I'm not an attorney. I'm
getting one of my attorneys to give us a recommendation
on that, and we are requesting a ruling from Rob
Bonta saying you know exactly what is his stance on this,
and you know what he plans to do as far
as prosecuting. But it looks to me like the news
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is tightening and the rule of law is going to stand,
and I think we're going to get to the business
of deporting at least these starting with these one and
a half million criminals that are in the United States.
And I think even more importantly shutting down these sex
trafficking operations and saving these three hundred thousand kids that
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we all know where they are. We don't know where
they are physically, we know what's happening to them, and
we got to stop that.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Isn't that? I mean? I think that's the number one thing.
If we have any law enforcement in California that says,
or any mayor or any city council member, anybody in
elected position says well, no, no, no, they're wrong to
come in here. We can The first thing we can
say is you don't want them looking for the three
hundred thousand children and just be quiet. See what they say.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
You know, I agree, and I have used that logic,
and it just they just changed the subject because there's
there's no way to hold onto their ideology and still
take the moral high ground on protecting kids. You know,
the Democrats will talk all day long about their protection
of children, but all I see them doing is putting
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them into the mill to have sex change operations and
letting them die sentinel and letting them go into sex trafficking.
So you know, it's time to bring all this into
the light.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Bill, I have to stop and ask you mister Mayor,
why hasn't built just up and left California. It seems
like you believe in a lot of things that some
other states would support. What keeps you here in Californian
fighting for the people of alcohol?
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I was, you know, I was born and raised in
California's is my home. It changed, but I don't want
to be run out. And then the other part of
that is I'm a man of faith and I believe
God has put me in this position for a reason.
And I don't think that when that happens, you just
pick up and leave when it's uncomfortable, or maybe there's
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a brighter political future in some other place. So you know,
we're here and we're going to stand and fight the
fight and see what happens.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
It's okay now to talk about faith and religion in public.
Do pray every day. I do pray every day, sometimes
twice a day. Yeah, we know, Comma, you pray every day.
Good to hear that, good to hear that, Mayor that
there's a divine calling on your life, and that's what
gives you the courage to, you know, let my people go.
You know that kind of courage God gives you that
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you wrote a quote, and I'm going to read it
back to you. I'm fifty eight years old. How are you?
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Mayor Wells a couple of years older than that?
Speaker 1 (28:01):
All right, I'm two sixty two, okay, And you'll understand
why I ask him his age when I read this quote.
He said, I think the ramifications and repercussions of this
VOT policy is going to be with us for the
rest of my life. Let's say we live as old
as Joe Biden, both of us do, We're going to
have a few more decades. What are the ramification and repercussions?
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You don't think, Well, it'd be impossible to get all
the criminals out, but even the ones that haven't committed
murder and rape, they're attached to all the social services.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Well, you know, first off, I want to say that
that you know, if you talk to the parents of
Lake and Riley or any of the other young women
have been raped and murdered, that their lives have irrevocably
been changed. And and so you know that's that's already occurred.
Are our sense of safety as a community has already
been rocked and shaken. But you know, from a more
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practical point of view. Yeah, you're right, they're they're they're
connected to the social services situation. I think it seems
unlikely to me that we'll get to the point where
we're uh deporting twenty million people. I think we're probably
gonna get rid of the terrorists and the and the criminals,
and then at some point some there will be a
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compromise made. And that means that you know, each and
every one of those those people is going to have
to go to school and get services. Many of them
will be getting social services like welfare and med account.
It's going to change everybody's life to some degree. It's
you know, housing is already a massive problem. I don't
know how it is where you are in San Diego.
We have rents for a basic apartment like three thousand
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dollars a month now, and you know, so that and
that's really just a supply and demand issue. And each
one of these people that come over from another country
need a place to live, so they're competing with you know,
our kids that were born and raised here for those spots.
So that, yeah, that's going to change everything. And you know,
I sadly believe that there are bad actors from countries
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that are adversaries of ours, that are setting up shop
here and that are waiting to be activated to do
bad things to us. And I think that is going
to be if something that sticks.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
With us for quite a while, and how that changes society.
Because when you just set an apartment three thousand dollars,
it's about seventeen hundred here. If you want to get
a nice two bedroom and a you know, a nice
fancy or a new place, twenty four hundred dollars, it's
And I was thinking back at nineteen eighty four, when
I left home at eighteen and went to Chico, had
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a roommate. It was three hundred dollars we splid at
one hundred and fifty each. How could a young person
today move out? You can, you'd have to have like
eight people living in a place.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
No, And you know, also talking about college days. When
I went to college, I waited tables a local restaurant
near my car college, and that was enough money to
pay my share of the rent I had. I could
pay for gas and car insurance and rent my apartment
didn't have much left over. But I don't think you
can do that now, you know, I don't think you
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could be a student and just work a part time
job in and pay for your own life.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
No, it's not going to happen. You talked about the
American taxpayer and in California Federation American Immigration Reform, which
I think Alon Musk quoted recently. Their stats, we have
them on the air often here, thirty two billion dollars
a year. It costs the taxpayers of California. They pay
three billion in taxes, so we're like twenty nine billion
(31:38):
dollars upside down, we're at a deficit. There will come
a point where the money could be cut off, and
you say, they're going to get angry. They're going to
say we deserve that that's owed to us, and you
don't like what you think might happen after that.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
I just see that human nature.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
You know.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
I'm a psychologist, That's how I'm a living and it
is just a basic human trait that when you start
getting something and you get on a regular basis, you
lose sense of the fact that that may be a
temporary situation and you feel like it's owed to you.
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It's like your birthright. And I think exactly you're exactly right.
When we start cutting back and saying Okay, no more
free housing for you, no more you a thousand dollars
a month and food stamps are all the other veneicies
you're getting. I think there will be violence as a
result of that. That's you know, that's another one of
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the long term consequences as we have this.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah, I've heard you speak up. Mayor Eric Adams in
New York City spoke up, there's and I'm scouring the
news to see reaction here locally. Our county sheriff and
interim police chief gave me responses back that they want
to wait until Trump's in and see what's expected of them,
which I can understand and respect that because you don't
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know what's expected yet. But I stopped yesterday at that
point and said, but you know what they've known for
a long time. There's an illegal alien crime that we
need to address it asn't matter if you're from Baltimore
or Honduras. Criminals are criminals, right, we should just be
focused on that no matter what any administration says. And
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it's such a crime what SB fifty four has done
to law enforcement in this state, right, I didn't want
to wear a mask from the studio to the bathroom.
But I did it to keep my job, right, They're
going along with it to keep their job. Hopefully this
administration in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, which would
probably be appealed, but to give them enough leverage because
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you know, down deep, they want to arrest criminals. They
don't care where they're from.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Yeah, I've yet to meet a police officer that wasn't
itching to solve this problem, to be part of that solution.
But you know, they don't want to be used as
candid fodder either. So this really should be worked out
between the States and the civil government. And I think
ultimately it's going to have to be worked out at
the Supreme Court, and I'm pretty sure that they will
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rule in favor of the cubl government.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Well, Mayor, thank you for your courage and your leadership.
We appreciate you and we look forward to talking to
you again. And in closing, I meant to say this
that there's so many cities now in the heartland of
America they're calling border cities. Now your city, what are
you forty miles away?
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Yeah about maybe the rush?
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yeah, not that you're glad that other cities what's it
feel like to know now that the rest of America
knows what you've been dealing with. I think that's the
question I'd like to ask.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
I tell you, ever since Trump got elected, I've seen
a lot of happier people, and I think a lot
of that house to just do with the sat is
that people have felt so isolated from sol On like
they were the crazy ones. And it's nice to know
that there are hundreds of millions of people that also
see what we see. It feels like the countries in
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the processes of healing itself, and I'm very excited about that.
And you know, I think the war will follow Alongsuit.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Well, you're part of it. Thank you for the healing
and we'll talk with you soon. Mayor, Oh, call me
any time.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
I enjoyed talking with you.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
All right, Thank you, sir, Mayor. Bill Wells alcohol true
American California Patriot lover. This is the Trevor Terry Show
on the Valley's Power Talk. Well, if you didn't hear it,
Fresto State he's going to hire USC lanebacker coach Matt
and says the next head coach. He was also a
head coach at North Dakota State before going to USC
(35:45):
which he was there for the last football season, and
he jumped the Trojans total defense ranking for November one,
nineteen to seventy. If you miss my three o'clock sitting
down here in the studio with Paul Leffler, the Voice
of President State Athletics. Podcasts available, we'll talk more about
it also coming up in the five o'clock hour to
(36:06):
show you that Democrats just don't even know what to
say anymore, and of course they have no embarrassment filter
in them, right. Chuck Schumer, Senator Chuck your boy from
New York. He was asked about the Biden and lying
about the pardon, and he had no comment. I'm not
gonna talk about that. He shuts them down, and then
(36:26):
they ask again, shut them down, ask again, shut them down, ask.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Questions, Yes, do you agree with some of your Democratic
College and see that President Biden's part of the counter
Biden that's your long unwise puts a personal interest ahead
of duty.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
I got nothing for you on that. That concerned black transparency,
lack of honesty around.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
By the Stitution's part.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
As I said, I got nothing for you on that too.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
I'm going to assert that parting anyone on the way
out of office, Stanley Numbers.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
Not thank you.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
I've got nothing for you on that.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
But the question is, we've talked about January sixth, parties.
This is a playbook, just so kidd kidding. Isn't this
a problem? Did he not establish a bad precedent for partners?
Speaker 1 (37:12):
I got nothing for you on that. Any other subjects. Yeah,
there's abjects. We got them. We got him in the corner.
They just don't even know. I don't even know how
to respond, do they. Well, I guess if you're doing
any kind of Christmas shopping at Fashion Fair here in Fresnow,
rest assured that Central Division organized Retail Crime Cash Force
(37:34):
CHP's out. They arrested twelve people on November thirtieth, over
that weekend there and they partnered there with the fair
security and they apprehended They said one guy your Central
Valley dot Com said was a suspect wonder for the
theft of a stolen purse, and they got it and
returned it to the to the owner. But I guess
they're finding in shoplifters and then on the scene if
(37:57):
there's any of these smash and grabber ideas, which we haven't.
Maybe they're just too common now, they don't make the
news anymore. Maybe people are like, oh, I'm so tired
of hosting that on my social media. It's just so
common these days. Right. But that's good to know though,
that they're out there doing that, Right, But it also
(38:17):
doesn't look good for a mall to be like, hey,
it could be so bad here that the CHP's showing up.
It's really not. Anyhow, kmph dot com had a story.
I had this for a few days and I thought
it kind of fit with this guy was arrested Friday.
They reported a man trying to sell jeans in their
neighborhood at eleven o'clock in the morning, Ashlyn and Palk
(38:39):
they arrived guys in a stolen vehicle. They came up,
he got out, he complied, raised his hands in the air,
turned ran into an open field. Roof K nine after him.
He pulled what appeared to be a handgum. Taken down
by the dog, he dropped the fire on the handcuffed him.
He identified as thirty year old Eduardo Ochoo, wearing body armor.
Taken into Imagine eleven am in the morning, you live
(39:02):
over there at Ashland and Poke, Hey, you want to
go for a walk, Yeah, all right, Hey you want
to buy some jeans? And it's a guy in a
stolen car with body armor on. Yeah, that's a little unnerving, right.
I wonder what how long maybe he'd been in the country,
or if he's a US citizen, what his criminal rap
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sheet would be. The only way we would know if
what his criminal rap sheet was if he were a
US citizen.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
Assistant Trevor Kerry show monda Valley's Power Talk
Paul Leffler, the voice of Fresno State. What a big
day this has This has only happened how many times
in school history this announcement.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Well, this will be the twentieth head coach. But you know,
it's what's crazy is I think it's the last dozen
years or so.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
This is number seven, so a lot recently. I had
some long runs in the past. Absolutely, But the game's
great too, right, I mean coaches do move around more,
look how players move around.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
And then that's a hard thing for people to adjust to.
I think it's you know, it strains the fan relationship.
But that said, Fresno State has hired a really terrific
coach at matt EN's with a great track record. I
don't think anyone's disputing that. I think the pain that
I'm hearing from players and alumni is that you know,
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one of them or one of us. So to speak
from the community, someone who's invested most of his adult
life in the Fresno State program was passed over and
maybe not given the opportunity that a lot of players
in alumni deserve. So I don't think think we can
be oblivious to the hurt and the emotions of that.
You know, there are a lot of people that really
believed him Skipper's the right guy for the job and
(01:08):
would have stayed here a long time and had a
lot of success and wanted to see him get that opportunity.
So it's one of those days that has nothing to
do with the coach who was hired, right, It's not
his fault.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yeah, Well, it's a lot of people are sad too,
you know, because that's it. Yeah, And I said yesterday
on the show, not knowing it in depth like you do,
it's like, okay, Skipper, Let's say he was an assistant
captain of a cruise ship and the captain went out
at the last minute and he had to come aboard.
He got everybody to shore safely on that venture that
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he was thrown into, and if he'd had the chance
to get his own crew for the return voyage back,
it would have probably been a different trip.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
That's a good analogy, Trevor, and I think that's the thing.
But it is a sport that demands immediate dividends. And
Garrett class he was brought in as an athletic director
to make a difference in front those states going into
a new conference, and you know, he's the one who
has that responsibility, so this is the decision that he made.
And I think the fan base has to give the
(02:09):
new coach a chance, but it doesn't mean we have
to pretend that Coach Skipper doesn't mean.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
A whole lot to the Red Wave.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
And I was at practice this morning and I saw
Coach Skipper take the high road in handling it and
informing his team and telling them that they still have
a game to play in the bowl game, and that
they're playing, you know, for each other and for the university,
not necessarily for him, so don't make it about that.
And as hard as he tried to not make it
(02:36):
about him, as the players were leaving the field and
heading off to a meeting to hear the news officially,
they were chanting, we want skip. So that's a real
thing that these players, and they've been all over social
media saying this is what they wanted. So it's hard
for them. And you know, in many ways, the balance
of power in college sports has shifted to the players
with the transfer portal and nil. But I think some
(02:58):
of these players are feeling like their voice wasn't heard,
So I think that creates an opportunity for Garrett Classy
and the Fresno State administration now and especially for this
new coach matt Ends, who, as I said, as a
terrific track record, part of a great coaching tree at
North Dakota State, a couple national championships as a head coach,
four more as an assistant coach. Indisputable what his track
(03:19):
record is that he has an opportunity to put out
on olive branch and to try to mend some fences
with players, fans, alumni who are little miffed that what
they wanted to happen isn't what happened.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
It used to be that the players were I don't
want to use the word stuck if they didn't like
the coaching decision, but they kind of were. Now with name,
image and likeness, they can be free agents if they
don't like decisions. So that's a big gamble. Well, and
I can say this, Trevor. You know, there were some
Bulldog players who had already entered the transfer portal citing
the uncertainty of the coaching situation, so they weren't practicing today.
(03:52):
Today's the first practice since the UCLA game. But there
were some players who practiced today fully intent to play
in the bowl game. Who then, after going to this
meeting and being informed about the change, have entered the
transfer portal? Okay, saying because of the change, Well, we
had the court right Mikey Keane, was he out there? No?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
No, he had already gone into portal. But I'm just saying,
that's how quickly to your point, those decisions can be made. Now.
You know, immediately you can say hey, I'm out. So
right now, you know, Coach Skipper, who's going to coach
this bowl game? With this coaching staff, they have to
figure out who's in, who's ready to go, and how
they can go win a game in a few weeks,
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the last game that he's going to get the chance
to lead Fresno State.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
In my guess, Paul Lefler, voice of Fresno State Athletics
new coach today Matt ins From former North Dakota State
head coach and also linebacker coach at USC. When they
go into the portal like Mikey Keen did, does that
mean they don't step field back on Fresno State, don't
put cleats back on, don't go to practice, don't play
in the game.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
That's pretty much what happens. We have had exceptions. A
few years ago. You might remember that when Kaylin de
Boor left for the University of Washington, Jake Hayner went
in the transfer portal and then changed his mind ended
up playing in the bowl game. Jeff Tedford had been
announced as coming back, and of course that's when Lee
(05:17):
Marks was the interim head coached that bowl game. Coach
Tedford didn't coach the game, but Jake ended up playing
in that game and playing really well. So there are
examples of guys changing their decision. And I'm sure Matt
Entz is going to try to convince some of those
bulldogs to stick around. Maybe not all of them, but
you know, it's a whole new world. And the other
part of that is, Okay, you've got a coach with
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a great track record, who has a reputation as a
tough nose coach, But how do you attract talent and
is there an nil war chest that comes along with it,
Because in today's day and age, if you don't have
nil money, you're just not getting the same caliber player.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
We talked about that and I even said, well to
be two leagues in the future where you'll have the
rich league and the not so rich league. I don't
know how it's all going to work out with the
bulldog bread, right, that's a name, image and likeness. Huh.
I thought i'd see more player endorsements. Are there other
ways to these players to make money that's not going
to be real visible to a viewer or a listener. Well,
(06:20):
I sawlikey Keem with an air conditioning commercial on TeV once,
but I didn't see much else.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Maybe, and I you know, I think in practicality, I
understand the point of view that says some of this
is a bit of a facade for paying players. Right,
You're not supposed to be paid for play. There's supposed
to be some kind of good or service endorsement exchange
for it.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
And that's the intent of the rule. Well, I was
going to have those schools. Does the check come from
the schoolers that come from the outside business?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
It comes from the collective that the business.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Is put a bulldog bread. That's where it would come from.
And that's the model right now.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
In the future, it may be that student athletes become
employees of athletic departments. There's some smoke, there's not fire.
There yet, but there's certainly some smoke in that direction.
But I think today, Trevor, it's you know, the emotions
are tough. A lot of Bulldog fans remember Tim Skipper
as a player. They loved what he did in the
Bowl Game last year. They've had some highs with him
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this year and some disappointments. But he's a part of
a family, and so if you felt like he's part
of your family in a way, you feel like your
family was rejected today. And I feel that way, yeah,
And I don't think the administration should be dismissive or
insensitive to that. So two things can exist at the
same time. The coach that was hired as a tremendous coach,
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but the coach that was passed over has a special
place in people's heart here, and that makes it a
difficult situation and I think requires really good communication moving forward.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I was watching a highlight of Frozno State one day
after the game on YouTube, and it stayed on and
popped into nineteen eighty two highlights of quarterback Tedford. Oh yeah, yeah, man,
this does really go back. You know, the love and
I saw this kind of love for a team in
Buffalo they have the same love that people here have
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for the Bulldogs. I'm picking up on how a community
feels it means something to them.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Well, yeah, and I was just in Buffalo West this morning, Firebox, California,
Josh Allen's hometown. Thanks to the firebar Rotary for a
great check for Central Valley Honor Flight this morning and
a great meal at the Blue Flame, which used to
be the Farmer's Daughter owned by Josh Allen's family. They've
got a great Chile Reno and eggs breakfast. Trevor, if I.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Think you're in a sports broadcasting for the food, well,
isn't ever getting getting to go to all these different places?
You need a Paul Leffler travel guide there for out there. Well,
did okay in this new world that we're talking about,
did the USC linebacker coach Matt Entz sit down and go,
all right, how much money you got in the bank
for me to go get some players? I mean, I'm
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sure those those are the conversations. Maybe not that direct, but.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Well, I'm sure that's a question he was asked, right,
I think any coach interviewing for this job, and Tim
Skipper was interviewed for this job went through the process.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Now, why would they be asked that. Wouldn't it be
the other way around, Like school, do you have the
funds and bulldog bread for me to go shopping?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I think the school is asking the coach, what's your
plan for attracting that kind of investment in your program?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Oh, that's what it's like. You gotta everything's attached to
a dollar.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
And I think that's part of how Vance Wahlberg landed
the Presno State basketball job, that he was able to
convince the administration, Hey, I can rally some support in
the community, and I hope the community shows up tonight
for the big Mountain West basketball opener against San Diego State.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yeah. I was having a conversation with c K on
Sports about you know, he's a Green Bay Packers fan,
and he talks about that little community, how much they
come out support the Packers, and he talks about that
same feeling here in the valley. I guess there's a
lot of big ag and stuff like that, right that
they'll be going to all these big businesses looking for
the actual support when it comes to name, image and likeness.
(10:01):
We had the unl V quarterback not even play right
because the name image and likeness. He didn't get the money,
That's what he said. It's all about money now. We're
not Look how much we're talking about money right, right,
But look how much we're talking about money now.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
And it's a shame, Trevor, because what it does. You know,
I don't want to get on a soapbox, but I
do believe that the way it's currently situated, it's counterproductive
to the whole purpose of team sports. The whole idea
has always been, you know, delay gratification and put your
own priorities underneath the overarching priorities of the team, and
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you're going to be a better person and grow as
a result. And now it's hey, if the team's not
doing what I want, I'm out and I need to get.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Paid before I do anything.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
You know, you guys you get you know, recruits are
getting promised nil money before they played it down.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
High school players.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yeah, So it's it's a different world, and I don't
know when it's going to shift, but at some point
I think there will be a little bit of a
course correction, so to speak.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Paul, I didn't hear the interview, but agent Squires told
me about it. When you were talking to Air Force
and those players they can't do name because they're in
the they're in the Air Force. They so they're playing
really I guess for the love of the game.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
That they do have a completely paid for education. Uh
and my nephew is a senior going to graduate at
the Air Force Academy in a little.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Bit, so.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Well, scholarship paid for education.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yeah, and yeah, there are a few differences, but yes,
that that is a distinction.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
You're right, yeah, Well, I know it's a sad day
for you. You were close to coach Tim Skipper new Ing
for for many years and I assume he doesn't stay
on the staff that doesn't work too well, or does
it or has that been specifically?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
You wouldn't see that happen. It would take a lot
of courage and a lot of trust on both sides, right,
I think.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
And that's something.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
That that I'm sure some people are thinking about. You know,
could a new coach take the chance, swallow his pride
a little bit and offer a spot to a very
popular coach because with the player Skipper before, what was
he offers a linebacker coach and associate head coach? Okay,
but you know, could you offer coach Skipper a job,
it would take swallowing some pride and taking a chance
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that you know that he's going to be all in
on your agenda. And then on the flip side for
Coach Skipper, it would be okay, you know, am I
having to swallow some pride here and do I see
how this is going to benefit my alma mater. It's
not impossible. It just doesn't happen too often.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
They got a bright career still ahead of him. Women
you never know in the future. People circle back around
many times. Absolutely, And I've got to say this about
Tim Skipper. He's first class all the way through. He
was a joy to work with this year on the
coaches shows, on game day interviews. He's one of the
more effective communicators that Fresno State has had in any
coaching positions. And I think anyone who's met him gets
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that he's a genuine guy. There's no question his futures
very bright. And that's why so many alumni, I think
so many former Bulldog players were so excited to see
him in the interim role this year and really expected
him to get the permanent role. But that's not what happened,
don't they have the word a player's coach. Absolutely, I
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think he's a player's coach and his future. To describe
what that means, well, it's.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
It's somebody that the players believe understands them and is
for them. And that doesn't mean, you know, you roll
over and let them have their way all the time.
Sometimes there's some tough love involved. But it's I think
a player's coach as a coach that players never questioned
whether he has their back and has their best interest
in mine. And I certainly think that applies to Tim Skipper.
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And you know, I think that's part of the reputation
that matt En springs in as well.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
All right, well, Paul, I know you're busy, Thank you
for coming in this afternoon, and I know you're sad,
and I know that you'll remain optimistic. You're you're a
pretty darn good team player in there, and you'll get
in there and.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Well, and it's not about me, Trevor, and it's not
you know, yeah, Tim.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Skipper's a every fan. It's about every fan right now,
is yeah, And that's your you're a fan, I hear it.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Well, you know what I am, Trevor, is I'm somebody
who loves the valley, and I think if you're not careful,
you could interpret this move as a bit of a
rejection of the value of the community, of what people
have cared about or what they value here. And I
don't think in any way that's the message that the
administration is trying to send. I think it's a tough business.
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They're looking at a new conference they want to be
competitive in, and they made the decision that they feel
is best.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
So I think it's a.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Incumbent on the administration to explain that decision of the
community to extend an alive branch. And then it's our
job as a community to embrace this new coach, support them,
and believe for the best. And there's no doubt in
my mind this community and that program are capable of
great things. So you want to rally behind the institution.
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But I hope that the administration does take time to
listen to those who are upset, who feel maybe rejected
or betrayed, because those emotions are real and they're understandable.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
And it was packed stadiums every game, and I guess
we'll see how people feel on the first home game.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah, and we'll I think we'll probably My guess is
tomorrow we'll hear from Matt enz right, and it maybe
people hear his visions. You ever met, I never have.
We have some mutual friends, and I've heard nothing but
great things about him. Yeah, so I'm looking forward to
getting it on.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
To wrap it all up, USC assistant head coach former
North Dakota State coach Matt Enns will be the next
head football coach at Fresno State. Paul Lefler, Voice of
Fresnel State Athletics, Thank you, sir, Thank you. Trevor came.
We do a go dogs.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
That's what I let Pat and Cam. Usually they're better
at it than I am. But how about go dogs.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
There you go? And I love the epic night. Has
he ever missed the Epic Night? Have you ever had
to nudge him?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:44):
I have. Yeah, but he's pretty good at it. No
one could do it better.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Thank you, Paul. See it, trev This is the Trevor
Cherry Show on the Valley's Tower Dog Peter Navarro. When
Peter Navarro was on the show, he said that they
set on their show, We're like Fresno State. We'll go
play anybody anywhere, and please to announce Donald J. Trump
(16:09):
announcing here Peter Navarro, I quote the President, a man
who was treated horribly by the deep state, or whatever
else you'd like to call it, will serve as my
senior counselor for trade and manufacturing by American higher American
President goes on to say Peter is not just a
superb Harvard Traine economist. He's a noted author of more
(16:33):
than a dozen best selling books on strategic business management
and unfair trade. He did a superb job for the
American people in my first term. Peter will do even
better as senior counselor to protect American workers and cheerly
make American manufacturing great again. Boy, he served his time,
didn't he? What a what a crock of crap that was.
(16:56):
You got Eric Calder running guns in Mexico. You got
Hillary coming up with Russian prostitute peepee things, and yeah,
nobody nobody gets a clink, and he clink at the
old jail cell right now. Nobody had to eat the
oatmeal that was looked the same as the mashed potatoes
at dinner, you know, food for a while, like he
had too. I'm here in just a few minutes at
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the bottom of the hour, and thanks again to Paul
Leffler and the honesty of that man. I tell you
he is, like you said, it's his love for the valley,
but he also said, we got to embrace and give
a chance. And hey, I watched the games, and I
listened to the games, and I get all the interviews,
and I talk at the office about the games. And
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I've never watched in my entire life or listened to
my entire life a college team ever like I have
the last two or three years. And into it. At
work on Friday, we wear our President State Friday gear.
I got it all in my closet, hung up. I
got three different hal you know. So yeah, into it.
(18:03):
But man, there's people that are really into it that
had you know, their kids played there, or they played there,
or if they didn't play there, they were in the stands,
or they were in the band or you know, the
alumni and a lot of people you know, are born
and raised here, So it's not as transient of a
city is even Sacramento is now or a bigger city.
(18:26):
You know, the people are in and they're out. You know,
it's funny for not being here. I've lived here ten
years in a few years in their early nineties. My
first child born here. So yeah, there's some rootage, I
guess you could say. But I asked people, I go, hey,
were you like born and raised around here?
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
No, no, no, I was born in Kingsburg. And and
to me, that's around here. You know, I'm thinking like, well,
were you born in Olpaso or Connecticut? You know, they're
oh no, no, no, I wasn't born around here. But see,
I love that because that's that's your area that you've
been in, right, Trevor carry You're all over the place. Uh.
(19:05):
But yeah, to have that that rootage, and part of
that now we talk about that, and that that comes
with a sense of family and tradition and knowing exactly
how that field used to look that now has a
building on it, right, you tell stories, you see it
change over time, right, And part of that is involved
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with sports. High school sports is huge around here. Not
as well, some of its as huge as like in
Texas how you think about but well, not to that degree,
but yeah, it's it's big and and uh, it's that
that mentality. I wanted to say mentality, that's not the
right word. That almost has like a negative, but the
(19:48):
vibe is they want somebody from here. We even saw
it with the superintendent of schools, right, that was a battle,
right police chief, but there were people that were upset
that we went to Oklahoma City. Right. They wanted it
somebody from here that understood the people. And it's not
just unique to this town. There's a lot of communities
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that feel that way across America. But when it really
does come to football, you heard that come through with
what Paul Leffler was saying. So I hope the new
coach embraces that a five year deal, right, But when
it comes to sports, all it takes is to be
like ten and two or whatever, and suddenly you're a bulldog. Right, Yeah,
(20:32):
that's right. They were easy to forget things real quick, right,
Winning somehow just makes it all seem like this is
the tremortary show on the Valleys our talk.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
So make it clear right now that Alcohol is not
a satuary city. We're gonna do everything we can to
work with the federal government to help ease this immigration problem,
help solve this problem. The problem we're facing in alcoholone
is that state law State of Californi law says that
if a police officer does his duty that we're asking
him to do by complying with the federal government, that
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police officer can be charged with a felony and lose
his pension. So that puts us in a really serious
situation because it basically takes frontline police officers and puts
them in the middle of this political crisis, this political
argument between the city, the state, and the fetes.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Well what is that. Well, in case you don't recognize it,
that's an elected official in California standing up for the people.
That's Mayor Bill Wells of El caohoone, and he joins
us on the show. Mayor, thank you for coming on.
As I found out when you and I talked on
the phone, I didn't realize you were on a few
years ago. I was told over the COVID lockdowns.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
I remembered that I was causing trouble then too.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah, so you sure were. Thank you for being back
on the show. Tell everybody out there why you're causing
trouble and how you want to work for the state.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Well, you know, you probably know that California passed the
law SB fifty four, which said that our municipalities cannot
work with federal government in regards to immigration. That means
that if we have a Venezuelan gang member in our custody,
we can't call border patrol. We can't call ICE and say, hey,
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come and get this guy, and vice versa. If they
were to call us and say, hey, did you just
arrest a Venezuelan gang member, we would, according to the
law of California, have to say, we can't talk to you.
I think that's dangerous and I think it's ridiculous, and
I think it really misunderstands the concept that there are
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certain entities that have precedents over other entities. And what
I mean by that is that the federal government the laws,
and the federal government should supersede the laws of the
state of California.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Yeah, and that's where that's where the showdown. I hate
to use that word, but it really is going to
be a showdown in the wild West.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
It is. And so when I started, you know, seeing
that Tom Holman was going to stand up and protect
us the way he is speaking about doing that, I
was really excited. And we had taken a stand way
back in twenty seventeen to officially say that alcohol would
ever be a sanctuary city, but it didn't really have
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much teeth because the Biden administration was in control and
they were, you know, working hand in the hand with
Gavin Newsom, and so we didn't really have much of
an opportunity to do anything. But now that we do.
I talked to my city manager. I said, I want
a legal opinion as to what can happen. And what
happened was very surprising to me. He came back and
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said it wouldn't be the city that would be in trouble.
It would be the police officer. Because the police officer
would you know, eventually be the one calling board of
patroller calling ice and as a result of California law,
they would be committing a misdemeanor, which would mean that
they could do their job and they could lose their pension,
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and to make matters worse, they would be held civilly liable,
so that the illegal alien that they called in on
could sue them and take their house and take any
money that they had. And so that's I thought that
was really insidious because it really takes the public servant
and puts them in this position where they're trying to
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weigh whether not they should take direction from the city,
from the state or federal government. I think that's really unfair.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
My guest is Mayor Bill Wells of El Caohoone. Yesterday
Mayor even Tom Homan posted this up. The three judges
on the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals rule the federal
government has the authority to deport illegals over the objections
of any and all local authorities. I said that was
a huge win for deportations of criminals running around here.
(24:56):
Does that now kind of take away the threat that
would go to these officers that you just described.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
I think, so, you know, I'm not an attorney. I'm
getting one of my attorneys to give us a recommendation
on that, and we are requesting a ruling from Rob
Bonta saying you know exactly what is his stance on this,
and you know what he plans to do as far
as prosecuting. But it looks to me like the news
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is tightening and the rule of law is going to stand,
and I think we're going to get to the business
of deporting at least these starting with these one and
a half million criminals that are in the United States.
And I think even more importantly shutting down these sex
trafficking operations and saving these three hundred thousand kids that
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we all know where they are. We don't know where
they are physically, we know what's happening to them, and
we got to stop that.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Isn't that? I mean? I think that's the number one thing.
If we have any law enforcement in California that says,
or any mayor or any city council member, anybody in
elected position says well, no, no, no, they're wrong to
come in here. We can The first thing we can
say is you don't want them looking for the three
hundred thousand children and just be quiet. See what they say.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
You know, I agree, and I have used that logic,
and it just they just changed the subject because there's
there's no way to hold onto their ideology and still
take the moral high ground on protecting kids. You know,
the Democrats will talk all day long about their protection
of children, but all I see them doing is putting
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them into the mill to have sex change operations and
letting them die sentinel and letting them go into sex trafficking.
So you know, it's time to bring all this into
the light.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Bill, I have to stop and ask you mister Mayor,
why hasn't built just up and left California. It seems
like you believe in a lot of things that some
other states would support. What keeps you here in Californian
fighting for the people of alcohol?
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I was, you know, I was born and raised in
California's is my home. It changed, but I don't want
to be run out. And then the other part of
that is I'm a man of faith and I believe
God has put me in this position for a reason.
And I don't think that when that happens, you just
pick up and leave when it's uncomfortable, or maybe there's
(27:24):
a brighter political future in some other place. So you know,
we're here and we're going to stand and fight the
fight and see what happens.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
It's okay now to talk about faith and religion in public.
Do pray every day. I do pray every day, sometimes
twice a day. Yeah, we know, Comma, you pray every day.
Good to hear that, good to hear that, Mayor that
there's a divine calling on your life, and that's what
gives you the courage to, you know, let my people go.
You know that kind of courage God gives you that
(27:53):
you wrote a quote, and I'm going to read it
back to you. I'm fifty eight years old. How are you?
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Mayor Wells a couple of years older than that?
Speaker 1 (28:01):
All right, I'm two sixty two, okay, And you'll understand
why I ask him his age when I read this quote.
He said, I think the ramifications and repercussions of this
VOT policy is going to be with us for the
rest of my life. Let's say we live as old
as Joe Biden, both of us do, We're going to
have a few more decades. What are the ramification and repercussions?
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You don't think, Well, it'd be impossible to get all
the criminals out, but even the ones that haven't committed
murder and rape, they're attached to all the social services.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Well, you know, first off, I want to say that
that you know, if you talk to the parents of
Lake and Riley or any of the other young women
have been raped and murdered, that their lives have irrevocably
been changed. And and so you know that's that's already occurred.
Are our sense of safety as a community has already
been rocked and shaken. But you know, from a more
(28:58):
practical point of view. Yeah, you're right, they're they're they're
connected to the social services situation. I think it seems
unlikely to me that we'll get to the point where
we're uh deporting twenty million people. I think we're probably
gonna get rid of the terrorists and the and the criminals,
and then at some point some there will be a
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compromise made. And that means that you know, each and
every one of those those people is going to have
to go to school and get services. Many of them
will be getting social services like welfare and med account.
It's going to change everybody's life to some degree. It's
you know, housing is already a massive problem. I don't
know how it is where you are in San Diego.
We have rents for a basic apartment like three thousand
(29:40):
dollars a month now, and you know, so that and
that's really just a supply and demand issue. And each
one of these people that come over from another country
need a place to live, so they're competing with you know,
our kids that were born and raised here for those spots.
So that, yeah, that's going to change everything. And you know,
I sadly believe that there are bad actors from countries
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that are adversaries of ours, that are setting up shop
here and that are waiting to be activated to do
bad things to us. And I think that is going
to be if something that sticks.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
With us for quite a while, and how that changes society.
Because when you just set an apartment three thousand dollars,
it's about seventeen hundred here. If you want to get
a nice two bedroom and a you know, a nice
fancy or a new place, twenty four hundred dollars, it's
And I was thinking back at nineteen eighty four, when
I left home at eighteen and went to Chico, had
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a roommate. It was three hundred dollars we splid at
one hundred and fifty each. How could a young person
today move out? You can, you'd have to have like
eight people living in a place.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
No, And you know, also talking about college days. When
I went to college, I waited tables a local restaurant
near my car college, and that was enough money to
pay my share of the rent I had. I could
pay for gas and car insurance and rent my apartment
didn't have much left over. But I don't think you
can do that now, you know, I don't think you
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could be a student and just work a part time
job in and pay for your own life.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
No, it's not going to happen. You talked about the
American taxpayer and in California Federation American Immigration Reform, which
I think Alon Musk quoted recently. Their stats, we have
them on the air often here, thirty two billion dollars
a year. It costs the taxpayers of California. They pay
three billion in taxes, so we're like twenty nine billion
(31:38):
dollars upside down, we're at a deficit. There will come
a point where the money could be cut off, and
you say, they're going to get angry. They're going to
say we deserve that that's owed to us, and you
don't like what you think might happen after that.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
I just see that human nature.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
You know.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
I'm a psychologist, That's how I'm a living and it
is just a basic human trait that when you start
getting something and you get on a regular basis, you
lose sense of the fact that that may be a
temporary situation and you feel like it's owed to you.
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It's like your birthright. And I think exactly you're exactly right.
When we start cutting back and saying Okay, no more
free housing for you, no more you a thousand dollars
a month and food stamps are all the other veneicies
you're getting. I think there will be violence as a
result of that. That's you know, that's another one of
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the long term consequences as we have this.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah, I've heard you speak up. Mayor Eric Adams in
New York City spoke up, there's and I'm scouring the
news to see reaction here locally. Our county sheriff and
interim police chief gave me responses back that they want
to wait until Trump's in and see what's expected of them,
which I can understand and respect that because you don't
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know what's expected yet. But I stopped yesterday at that
point and said, but you know what they've known for
a long time. There's an illegal alien crime that we
need to address it asn't matter if you're from Baltimore
or Honduras. Criminals are criminals, right, we should just be
focused on that no matter what any administration says. And
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it's such a crime what SB fifty four has done
to law enforcement in this state, right, I didn't want
to wear a mask from the studio to the bathroom.
But I did it to keep my job, right, They're
going along with it to keep their job. Hopefully this
administration in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, which would
probably be appealed, but to give them enough leverage because
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you know, down deep, they want to arrest criminals. They
don't care where they're from.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Yeah, I've yet to meet a police officer that wasn't
itching to solve this problem, to be part of that solution.
But you know, they don't want to be used as
candid fodder either. So this really should be worked out
between the States and the civil government. And I think
ultimately it's going to have to be worked out at
the Supreme Court, and I'm pretty sure that they will
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rule in favor of the cubl government.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Well, Mayor, thank you for your courage and your leadership.
We appreciate you and we look forward to talking to
you again. And in closing, I meant to say this
that there's so many cities now in the heartland of
America they're calling border cities. Now your city, what are
you forty miles away?
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Yeah about maybe the rush?
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yeah, not that you're glad that other cities what's it
feel like to know now that the rest of America
knows what you've been dealing with. I think that's the
question I'd like to ask.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
I tell you, ever since Trump got elected, I've seen
a lot of happier people, and I think a lot
of that house to just do with the sat is
that people have felt so isolated from sol On like
they were the crazy ones. And it's nice to know
that there are hundreds of millions of people that also
see what we see. It feels like the countries in
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the processes of healing itself, and I'm very excited about that.
And you know, I think the war will follow Alongsuit.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Well, you're part of it. Thank you for the healing
and we'll talk with you soon. Mayor, Oh, call me
any time.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
I enjoyed talking with you.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
All right, Thank you, sir, Mayor. Bill Wells alcohol true
American California Patriot lover. This is the Trevor Terry Show
on the Valley's Power Talk. Well, if you didn't hear it,
Fresto State he's going to hire USC lanebacker coach Matt
and says the next head coach. He was also a
head coach at North Dakota State before going to USC
(35:45):
which he was there for the last football season, and
he jumped the Trojans total defense ranking for November one,
nineteen to seventy. If you miss my three o'clock sitting
down here in the studio with Paul Leffler, the Voice
of President State Athletics. Podcasts available, we'll talk more about
it also coming up in the five o'clock hour to
(36:06):
show you that Democrats just don't even know what to
say anymore, and of course they have no embarrassment filter
in them, right. Chuck Schumer, Senator Chuck your boy from
New York. He was asked about the Biden and lying
about the pardon, and he had no comment. I'm not
gonna talk about that. He shuts them down, and then
(36:26):
they ask again, shut them down, ask again, shut them down, ask.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Questions, Yes, do you agree with some of your Democratic
College and see that President Biden's part of the counter
Biden that's your long unwise puts a personal interest ahead
of duty.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
I got nothing for you on that. That concerned black transparency,
lack of honesty around.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
By the Stitution's part.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
As I said, I got nothing for you on that too.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
I'm going to assert that parting anyone on the way
out of office, Stanley Numbers.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
Not thank you.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
I've got nothing for you on that.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
But the question is, we've talked about January sixth, parties.
This is a playbook, just so kidd kidding. Isn't this
a problem? Did he not establish a bad precedent for partners?
Speaker 1 (37:12):
I got nothing for you on that. Any other subjects. Yeah,
there's abjects. We got them. We got him in the corner.
They just don't even know. I don't even know how
to respond, do they. Well, I guess if you're doing
any kind of Christmas shopping at Fashion Fair here in Fresnow,
rest assured that Central Division organized Retail Crime Cash Force
(37:34):
CHP's out. They arrested twelve people on November thirtieth, over
that weekend there and they partnered there with the fair
security and they apprehended They said one guy your Central
Valley dot Com said was a suspect wonder for the
theft of a stolen purse, and they got it and
returned it to the to the owner. But I guess
they're finding in shoplifters and then on the scene if
(37:57):
there's any of these smash and grabber ideas, which we haven't.
Maybe they're just too common now, they don't make the
news anymore. Maybe people are like, oh, I'm so tired
of hosting that on my social media. It's just so
common these days. Right. But that's good to know though,
that they're out there doing that, Right, But it also
(38:17):
doesn't look good for a mall to be like, hey,
it could be so bad here that the CHP's showing up.
It's really not. Anyhow, kmph dot com had a story.
I had this for a few days and I thought
it kind of fit with this guy was arrested Friday.
They reported a man trying to sell jeans in their
neighborhood at eleven o'clock in the morning, Ashlyn and Palk
(38:39):
they arrived guys in a stolen vehicle. They came up,
he got out, he complied, raised his hands in the air,
turned ran into an open field. Roof K nine after him.
He pulled what appeared to be a handgum. Taken down
by the dog, he dropped the fire on the handcuffed him.
He identified as thirty year old Eduardo Ochoo, wearing body armor.
Taken into Imagine eleven am in the morning, you live
(39:02):
over there at Ashland and Poke, Hey, you want to
go for a walk, Yeah, all right, Hey you want
to buy some jeans? And it's a guy in a
stolen car with body armor on. Yeah, that's a little unnerving, right.
I wonder what how long maybe he'd been in the country,
or if he's a US citizen, what his criminal rap
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sheet would be. The only way we would know if
what his criminal rap sheet was if he were a
US citizen.
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