February 12, 2026 • 11 mins
Eddie's wife, Debra, has been all over the Nancy Guthrie case just like we are but on a whole other level. She knows details we don't and is putting the pieces together but this is casuing panic for her over their own, Grandma Nancy...
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So we've been staying closely attached to and paying attention
to this whole missing mom of Savannah Guthrie that's been
going on for now about two weeks, which is crazy.
The case is crazy, and every time there's something that
comes out about it, it's even crazier. And it is.
(00:20):
It is wild and bizarre, and you're just obviously still
kind of hoping for the best. Not looking great, but
you know, you never know. Miracles happen.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
There's a lot of hope out there.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
You don't if she gets found today, you don't think
that would be a miracle alive.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I mean, it'd be incredible and be a miracle.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I mean to we, you don't usually be gone this long.
And you know, okay, I think everybody is.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Emily is very overly optimistic and Eddie, both of them
who watch a lot of true crime. Eddie went the
other way a little more.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Trying, do you know, temper the expectations here. It's not
looking great.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
I started following too true true crime like chicks that
break down everything on Instagram, and it's put me in
a bit of a hole, a dark hole.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Are they saying sort of the same thing that I'm
saying yeah, well.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Because don't they say, like after forty eight hours, the
like chances isn't so great.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Hey, s guy, I'm sorry this is still out there.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Okay, we're holding down home.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
You guys.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
We'll see.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
So, you know, my wife and I are both true
crime fans, as you know, and Deborah is also a
former police officer, and so she has some knowledge on
things and whatever, and so this case to her is
as fascinating as anything. You know. I mean, we we
obviously are all sort of interested in this, but I
(01:43):
mean she's going deep, really, and she's saying things that
I have not heard being reported anywhere really, And I'm like,
where did you hear that? And she's like, oh, I
read it, And like what, Like, what are you talking about?
She says it, nobody's talking about this? What? But what
(02:03):
that there was a camera that was placed on the
roof by the guy that you know that was on
film that they broke in or whatever. He put a
camera on the roof. And I'm like, where did you
hear that? I've not heard that anywhere, But she's like, yeah,
he did.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Huh, yeah, I read that something was removed from the roof.
But I didn't hear any time. I haven't heard that,
whether you know, was there the whole time or had
something to do with the bat and his.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Wife and my wife are very similar, where like my
wife will read stuff on the internet and she'll do
a little bit of research and then tell me that
she saw something. I'm like, I don't know if that's real,
And then sometimes it is, and sometimes it isn't right
because she just likes to believe it because it becomes
more of like a.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
True like that to me is a crazy detail, Like
how would we not talk about that? Yeah? Yeah, like
they put it. They put a camera on the roof, like, so,
I don't know what she's talking about. She dropped a
joosy on me yesterday. What She's like, have you heard
what they found? And I go what they find? And
she says they found a black glove. I O, I think.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Was it?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
She goes, yeah, like a mile and a half away
they found a black love And I go, really, again,
I haven't heard that.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I saw that this morning, But well, I parked in
the parking lot this morning on top of a blue.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Glove, So I'm not sure what that has to do.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I'm just saying a mile and a half away to
find a random glove, Like gloves are garbage sometimes he
could not be.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Just don't have them try it on in the court room.
Look at innocent.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Trying to put it on too. So I'm hearing all
this stuff almost every day of like new details and
things that I'm not even sure are true. But whatever,
she's she's highly invested into this case. And I get it.
I mean, it's a fascinating case and you know, again
you're hoping for the best. Well, it is taking a
turn in my house. And then what I mean by
(04:19):
that is that now Deborah is not only concerned for
Nancy Guthrie, but she's very concerned for our own Nancy,
my mother in law, Gramma Nancy g Nancy Nancy. Are
they coming from Arizona to San Diego? Why? I have
no idea where this is coming. So Grandma Nancy lives
(04:43):
in an adu on our property, you know, and so
she's up there. She's around the same age as Nancy Guthrie.
She is, you know, has a hard time getting around
a lot and things like that, just like Nancy Guthrie.
Treasure Nancy bonded during covid. I really did, really did?
Does she? Does?
Speaker 5 (05:04):
She also have a son in law who buys her
off brand? Oreos Nancy got three does I'm wondering.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
I don't know if Nancy got three D talking about
the way Eddie Grocery shops for her and won't get.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Her if she wanted. Peter Butter, do you get her
like the Target brand? Or you get her like I
would never go to Target?
Speaker 6 (05:22):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Wow, statement way too expensive? What a store brand? But
what do you get for yourself or your family? I'm
skippy man? Yes?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
What about her chocolate milk?
Speaker 4 (05:39):
You get her?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
The you right.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Out of your mind?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
That face? That's not that crazy?
Speaker 1 (05:45):
No store brand chocolate milk.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Doesn't chocolate milk every day? Wow? She loves trip Oh
really okay?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Living her best life?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
All right?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
So, uh, doesn't be plain. I'm buying it for you
are buying it? I mean I think I'm doing I
think I am the treasure here that I am taking
care of my mother in law like this. I don't
get a dime. I don't get a dime, So I'm
a pretty nice guy.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Family. You could spend fifty cents more on the skippy
But why I can't.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Okay, fine, So, uh, there's a lot of similarities to
you know, old Nancy Guthrie and Gramma Nancy. And now
Deborah is kind of putting two and two together and
saying that we should be a little bit more concerned
with the safety and security for Gramma Nancy. This is
(06:48):
an eye opener and showing us how in danger our
seniors are and this could happen to anybody.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
And I thinking to myself, well, if this person did
get kidnapped and is you know, these ransom notes we're
seeing are asking for millions of dollars and things like that.
I don't know that a random senior citizen is going
to get snatched up. Yeah. Because of that, I mean,
it seems like a wildly different situation.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Where, yeah, Savannah Guthrie is a big deal, but even
then it's weird. Of course, I told I don't know
about you, Eddie. I told my dad because my dad's
seventy now, and I told him if this was him,
I would release a statement saying I don't negotiate with kidnappers.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Okay, your parents, Okay. Deborah then dropped, of course, border
town on. But they're taking Gramma Nancy across the border.
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know why
they're targeting poor Gramma Nancy. But she she now, and
(07:54):
I'm trying to explain her, Deborah, we have security measures.
I have cameras, I got stuff going on.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
In addition to like your alarm system, alarm thing, like
you guys are on the property to Grandma Nancy was in.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
A great Grandma Gray.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Was in a big house like your Grandma Nancy's on
the property with you guys.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
You would take that full down.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Yeah, you would take that full down.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Well okay, and then no, I'm getting out there. Okay.
So I said, we have security measures, but she wants more.
She says, we're not doing enough to keep Gramma Nancy safe.
It's in her head. It's in her head, Shepherd. This
(08:43):
whole business with Nancy Guthrie is in her head now
that the Gramma Nancy is going to get snatched. Yeah,
it's crazy.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
I get that, you get because well, you know me,
I'm afraid of everything when it like with this James
Vanderby thing. Okay, cancer, So I kind of understand. And
what's going on with Debora's mind. She sees this and
she starts worrying about well, I get it.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, does she think.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
There's gonna be they're gonna take gram Nancy and then
do a ransom note to you?
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I guess ye. Would you say you don't negotiate a
kidnappers like I would say I wouldn't say that that blatantly?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Eddie?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Do you want me to do?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
She can't even get named Brad peanut butter?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
So, yeah, well that's kind of my thoughts. I'm not
going to pay.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Well, here's for groceries. This will make Denborah feel better.
Nobody's gonna want to break into that place because nobody's
gonna want to steal off brand cookies and offa.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Why are they taking there? Why they didn't take groceries?
Speaker 3 (09:41):
And if you're going to break into a place, you're
not going to break into an off brand place, is
all I'm saying something.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
But again, it wasn't a robbery. The humans did they take?
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Is that? What?
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Okay? Uh, Emily, I know your big fears is to
get snatched.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
That video freaks out huh big time, you know, big
time like that, Like I'm terrified, Okay, seeing that guy
in the bushes around my house, he's not there?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Is he picking up shrubs and hiding your ring cam? Yeah?
Okay that guy was clearly at Yeah that was weird. Sure,
so this is a big fear for you as well.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Right, absolutely, I'm like, I'm losing sleepover. To be honest,
they needed to get this guy.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Mom, You're losing sleep over.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Nancy Guthrie, Yes, okay, I just keep having nightmares about
the guy. Thank goodness though, that my mom is in
like a high rise condo.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
Scout, we get it rich.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
If anything, her being rich are you talking about is
not a good thing? Would they demand as a ransom
a thousand dollars dress? I tell you what, I know
who did the kidnap?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
My mom never bought me a thousand dress. Why there's
a little over one hundred dollars? Why are you all.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Acting like there's a senior citizen kidnapper of rash? I mean,
it's one person in Tucson. Why are we all acting
like this is happening all over the car?
Speaker 1 (11:16):
I have no idea, she says. It's it's eye opening.
This could happen, This could happen. Okay, So just keeping
ahead on a swivel.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
So are you going to do anything.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
What would I do? I already have an alarm system
and cameras and a dog, and a dog and me.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
There's something we Todaddy and me. Okay, what else can
I do?
Speaker 1 (11:37):
It's weird, it's a little too much. So yeah, I
don't know what's going on with her being on the
case and now hearing about this. Please just find poor
Nancy got through so that I can not hear about
this is it's wild. It's wild. So that's that's the latest.
There
So we've been staying closely attached to and paying attention
to this whole missing mom of Savannah Guthrie that's been
going on for now about two weeks, which is crazy.
The case is crazy, and every time there's something that
comes out about it, it's even crazier. And it is.
(00:20):
It is wild and bizarre, and you're just obviously still
kind of hoping for the best. Not looking great, but
you know, you never know. Miracles happen.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
There's a lot of hope out there.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
You don't if she gets found today, you don't think
that would be a miracle alive.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I mean, it'd be incredible and be a miracle.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I mean to we, you don't usually be gone this long.
And you know, okay, I think everybody is.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Emily is very overly optimistic and Eddie, both of them
who watch a lot of true crime. Eddie went the
other way a little more.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Trying, do you know, temper the expectations here. It's not
looking great.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
I started following too true true crime like chicks that
break down everything on Instagram, and it's put me in
a bit of a hole, a dark hole.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Are they saying sort of the same thing that I'm
saying yeah, well.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Because don't they say, like after forty eight hours, the
like chances isn't so great.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Hey, s guy, I'm sorry this is still out there.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Okay, we're holding down home.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
You guys.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
We'll see.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
So, you know, my wife and I are both true
crime fans, as you know, and Deborah is also a
former police officer, and so she has some knowledge on
things and whatever, and so this case to her is
as fascinating as anything. You know. I mean, we we
obviously are all sort of interested in this, but I
(01:43):
mean she's going deep, really, and she's saying things that
I have not heard being reported anywhere really, And I'm like,
where did you hear that? And she's like, oh, I
read it, And like what, Like, what are you talking about?
She says it, nobody's talking about this? What? But what
(02:03):
that there was a camera that was placed on the
roof by the guy that you know that was on
film that they broke in or whatever. He put a
camera on the roof. And I'm like, where did you
hear that? I've not heard that anywhere, But she's like, yeah,
he did.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Huh, yeah, I read that something was removed from the roof.
But I didn't hear any time. I haven't heard that,
whether you know, was there the whole time or had
something to do with the bat and his.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Wife and my wife are very similar, where like my
wife will read stuff on the internet and she'll do
a little bit of research and then tell me that
she saw something. I'm like, I don't know if that's real,
And then sometimes it is, and sometimes it isn't right
because she just likes to believe it because it becomes
more of like a.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
True like that to me is a crazy detail, Like
how would we not talk about that? Yeah? Yeah, like
they put it. They put a camera on the roof, like, so,
I don't know what she's talking about. She dropped a
joosy on me yesterday. What She's like, have you heard
what they found? And I go what they find? And
she says they found a black glove. I O, I think.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Was it?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
She goes, yeah, like a mile and a half away
they found a black love And I go, really, again,
I haven't heard that.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I saw that this morning, But well, I parked in
the parking lot this morning on top of a blue.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Glove, So I'm not sure what that has to do.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I'm just saying a mile and a half away to
find a random glove, Like gloves are garbage sometimes he
could not be.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Just don't have them try it on in the court room.
Look at innocent.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Trying to put it on too. So I'm hearing all
this stuff almost every day of like new details and
things that I'm not even sure are true. But whatever,
she's she's highly invested into this case. And I get it.
I mean, it's a fascinating case and you know, again
you're hoping for the best. Well, it is taking a
turn in my house. And then what I mean by
(04:19):
that is that now Deborah is not only concerned for
Nancy Guthrie, but she's very concerned for our own Nancy,
my mother in law, Gramma Nancy g Nancy Nancy. Are
they coming from Arizona to San Diego? Why? I have
no idea where this is coming. So Grandma Nancy lives
(04:43):
in an adu on our property, you know, and so
she's up there. She's around the same age as Nancy Guthrie.
She is, you know, has a hard time getting around
a lot and things like that, just like Nancy Guthrie.
Treasure Nancy bonded during covid. I really did, really did?
Does she? Does?
Speaker 5 (05:04):
She also have a son in law who buys her
off brand? Oreos Nancy got three does I'm wondering.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
I don't know if Nancy got three D talking about
the way Eddie Grocery shops for her and won't get.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Her if she wanted. Peter Butter, do you get her
like the Target brand? Or you get her like I
would never go to Target?
Speaker 6 (05:22):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Wow, statement way too expensive? What a store brand? But
what do you get for yourself or your family? I'm
skippy man? Yes?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
What about her chocolate milk?
Speaker 4 (05:39):
You get her?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
The you right.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Out of your mind?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
That face? That's not that crazy?
Speaker 1 (05:45):
No store brand chocolate milk.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Doesn't chocolate milk every day? Wow? She loves trip Oh
really okay?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Living her best life?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
All right?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
So, uh, doesn't be plain. I'm buying it for you
are buying it? I mean I think I'm doing I
think I am the treasure here that I am taking
care of my mother in law like this. I don't
get a dime. I don't get a dime, So I'm
a pretty nice guy.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Family. You could spend fifty cents more on the skippy
But why I can't.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Okay, fine, So, uh, there's a lot of similarities to
you know, old Nancy Guthrie and Gramma Nancy. And now
Deborah is kind of putting two and two together and
saying that we should be a little bit more concerned
with the safety and security for Gramma Nancy. This is
(06:48):
an eye opener and showing us how in danger our
seniors are and this could happen to anybody.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
And I thinking to myself, well, if this person did
get kidnapped and is you know, these ransom notes we're
seeing are asking for millions of dollars and things like that.
I don't know that a random senior citizen is going
to get snatched up. Yeah. Because of that, I mean,
it seems like a wildly different situation.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Where, yeah, Savannah Guthrie is a big deal, but even
then it's weird. Of course, I told I don't know
about you, Eddie. I told my dad because my dad's
seventy now, and I told him if this was him,
I would release a statement saying I don't negotiate with kidnappers.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Okay, your parents, Okay. Deborah then dropped, of course, border
town on. But they're taking Gramma Nancy across the border.
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know why
they're targeting poor Gramma Nancy. But she she now, and
(07:54):
I'm trying to explain her, Deborah, we have security measures.
I have cameras, I got stuff going on.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
In addition to like your alarm system, alarm thing, like
you guys are on the property to Grandma Nancy was in.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
A great Grandma Gray.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Was in a big house like your Grandma Nancy's on
the property with you guys.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
You would take that full down.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Yeah, you would take that full down.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Well okay, and then no, I'm getting out there. Okay.
So I said, we have security measures, but she wants more.
She says, we're not doing enough to keep Gramma Nancy safe.
It's in her head. It's in her head, Shepherd. This
(08:43):
whole business with Nancy Guthrie is in her head now
that the Gramma Nancy is going to get snatched. Yeah,
it's crazy.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
I get that, you get because well, you know me,
I'm afraid of everything when it like with this James
Vanderby thing. Okay, cancer, So I kind of understand. And
what's going on with Debora's mind. She sees this and
she starts worrying about well, I get it.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, does she think.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
There's gonna be they're gonna take gram Nancy and then
do a ransom note to you?
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I guess ye. Would you say you don't negotiate a
kidnappers like I would say I wouldn't say that that blatantly?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Eddie?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Do you want me to do?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
She can't even get named Brad peanut butter?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
So, yeah, well that's kind of my thoughts. I'm not
going to pay.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Well, here's for groceries. This will make Denborah feel better.
Nobody's gonna want to break into that place because nobody's
gonna want to steal off brand cookies and offa.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Why are they taking there? Why they didn't take groceries?
Speaker 3 (09:41):
And if you're going to break into a place, you're
not going to break into an off brand place, is
all I'm saying something.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
But again, it wasn't a robbery. The humans did they take?
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Is that? What?
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Okay? Uh, Emily, I know your big fears is to
get snatched.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
That video freaks out huh big time, you know, big
time like that, Like I'm terrified, Okay, seeing that guy
in the bushes around my house, he's not there?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Is he picking up shrubs and hiding your ring cam? Yeah?
Okay that guy was clearly at Yeah that was weird. Sure,
so this is a big fear for you as well.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Right, absolutely, I'm like, I'm losing sleepover. To be honest,
they needed to get this guy.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Mom, You're losing sleep over.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Nancy Guthrie, Yes, okay, I just keep having nightmares about
the guy. Thank goodness though, that my mom is in
like a high rise condo.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
Scout, we get it rich.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
If anything, her being rich are you talking about is
not a good thing? Would they demand as a ransom
a thousand dollars dress? I tell you what, I know
who did the kidnap?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
My mom never bought me a thousand dress. Why there's
a little over one hundred dollars? Why are you all.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Acting like there's a senior citizen kidnapper of rash? I mean,
it's one person in Tucson. Why are we all acting
like this is happening all over the car?
Speaker 1 (11:16):
I have no idea, she says. It's it's eye opening.
This could happen, This could happen. Okay, So just keeping
ahead on a swivel.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
So are you going to do anything.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
What would I do? I already have an alarm system
and cameras and a dog, and a dog and me.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
There's something we Todaddy and me. Okay, what else can
I do?
Speaker 1 (11:37):
It's weird, it's a little too much. So yeah, I
don't know what's going on with her being on the
case and now hearing about this. Please just find poor
Nancy got through so that I can not hear about
this is it's wild. It's wild. So that's that's the latest.
There
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